/v/ - Video Games

The worst thing about gun stats is that they're never actually gun related. Imagine being able to tweak real things like the length of the barrel, ammo weight, build material and whatnot but no it's just number porn with bullets.

Probably parrying. My idea of combat is good positioning, use of resources, patience and knowing when to attack. Parrying is purposefully standing in harm's way and relying on timing. Combat should be going with the flow of battle, parrying is going against it. Thankfully, most games make it optional.

>>16359342

>>16359356

I think stats are fine if they’re actually meaningful. But the whole borderlands gimmick of a gorillion guns that are only made out of the same handful of parts, with numbers arbitrarily tacked on is awful. If it was the player who could influence stats, or just that each gun had set stats that weren’t hidden, it’d be fine.

>>16359342

>What is your most disliked trend this gen?

Games that are shit

>>16359342

>the casual invasion of pc.

>the commie invasion of gaming.

>the ridiculous amount of free to play faggotry.

These what's wrong with gaming.

Every single one of these things has made core elements of classic pc gaming become considered "optional" at best or "avoidable" at worst.

Fact is, wahmen, trannys, kikes, casuals, soyfags, kids, etc don't give a fuck about mods, server browsers, etc; and these core elements of classic pc gaming are all anthetical to the free to play cancer that is taking over all of gaming, not just pc.

When DOTA2 and CSGO are considered "hardcore" games within their respective genres, you know something has fundamentally changed in gaming, and it's not the nature of gaming, it's the market, the sources of money and the injection of commie politics into the hobby. When a wahman reviewer, proudly admits to cheating in order to write a game review, and the average pleb cheers it, then you know everything and everyone around the hobby has jumped the shark, as it were.

I've never seen such absolute retardation, and I know it's only going to get worse, before it gets better.

>>16359342

It's not the most annoying thing, but battle royale is pretty shit as a concept.

>>16359383

It's fine as a game mode but fuck paying full price for something like that and fuck some free to play online only bullshit with lootboxes alternative even more.

>>16359394

Even though I pirated the game just to see what the fuss was all about, I immediately uninstalled it the moment I saw that opening screen. Fucking faggots.

>>16359389

>lootboxes

There's another shitty concept. For all its faults, at least DLC has the potential to give people good content and extend the life of a given product. How can lootboxes ever be justified beyond, "we want the mobileshit whale audience"?

>>16359402

>the game

They've done this for over a decade with 40 games. You'll have to be more specific.

Remaster

Nobody can make their own good games anymore so they "remaster" and ruin everything for nostalgia bucks

my most disliked trend is easily gambling/phone tier games being sold as "real" games.

Microjewry

>>16359405

>How can lootboxes ever be justified beyond, "we want the mobileshit whale audience"?

To give players a sense of pride and accomplishment :^)

Damage numbers and hitmarkers

Last gen, but even more predominant nowadays

>>16359418

I don't really get this one unless it's in PvP. What exactly is wrong with having those things? Moreso the damage numbers than hitmarkers.

>>16359382

Agree with you. Haven't seen a real exclusive for PC for years. Despite DotA2 and CSGO being good games (DotA2 especially, which is so much better than CSGO), they doesn't deserve to be called hardcore because they aren't nearly hardcore. But the lack of exclusive PC games made them hardcore compared to newer games.

Would anything change this? I thought indie games would be the solution, but they weren't.

>>16359436

>DOTA

>CSGO

>good games

wew lad

>>16359426

Pointless, annoying clutter.

>>16359442

The point is to give you more information though.

>>16359383

I would say that is systematic of all new game genres that have been created in the modern era. They're distilled aspects of the worse parts of multiple games but are treated like a whole game instead of a mode. Mostly with the goal of being turned into a competitive and e-sport game. I think it was started with mobas and it gave developers the idea of literally putting the cart before the horse.

I think BR genre could be way better than it is now which looks like it's still trying to fix its basic problems. They should reintegrate back to the FPS genre and stick to being modes.

>>16359443

But those numbers barely ever mean anything. The numbers go up with your level arbitrarily, and the enemies never have a visible or consistent amount of health.

>>16359469

But every single game does that.

t. man with taste shit enough to have played every big looter shooter in the last ten years

The worst trend isn't the mechanic, it's the gamers. I'm pretty sure they're getting stupider, which is quite an achievement considering how stupid they always were.

>>16359475

I can name a few that do it right if you can excuse shit taste.

>>16359444 (trips)

>I think BR genre could be way better than it is now which looks like it's still trying to fix its basic problems. They should reintegrate back to the FPS genre and stick to being modes.

In what ways do you think it could improve? In my opinion the concept is shit, but maybe that has more to do with my own biases. For example, I get that the game mode tries to create tension by enforcing the idea that you're just one out of a large group of players, so you ought to be careful with your decision making and try and to engage other players cleverly. While that's a nice sentiment, it isn't conducive to fun because nobody wants to wait around for upwards for 15 minutes to begin another round, and just because he got killed in some unfavorable and circumstantial way.

That's my biggest problem with it, really. If you die because you got sniped from a vantage point that you didn't even know existed, you're unreasonably punished for your ignorance. Not only that, the core mechanics (at least in a game like fortnite) are ripped straight out of unreal tournament, which was an arena shooter with health packs and ammo drops and weapons placed throughout the arena, and I don't think that works well for this style of game, wherein your location and circumstances dictate your chances of survival more than any other thing.

>>16359485

Go for it.

I didn't play Anthem or the bordermemes games past 2, just to correct myself

Feminism

>>16359487

RoR 1 and 2 have it, though I will say it's a bit superfluous and just is there to add to the feeling of becoming an unstoppable god.

Warframe does it well because damage calculation can get hairy with armor, status, crits, damage types and resistances, eximus auras, and abilities that augment your damage or an enemy's defenses.

MHW does it nicely too. While I can respect people for not wanting them there, they do exactly what damage numbers should do, and especially cause the game goes out of its way to obfuscate the shown weapon damage and the actual dealt damage for some reason. So things like damage over time effects, crits, monster weak parts, are easy to learn. And I know the monster catalogue exists and tells you weakpoints too, but it's more fun to learn by doing.

Nioh also has them, and again it helps because the game only gives you vague damage numbers, and anything that isn't a weapon, like ninja items, poisons, and onmyo tells you nothing about the damage at all. Similar to this is dark souls too.

>>16359483

Like I pointed out above, some games have weirdly intricate damage calculation, and armor can vary by enemy and if you have applied status effects or have damage that ignores armor. Also they float above enemies because that's where you're looking so you don't need to shift focus to see your damage and you also know which enemy it's affecting if there are multiple.

>>16359515

In Nioh it's a nearly necessary addition because of the looting mechanics. You could spend a while doing math to figure out what damage it does on what type of enemy, all the special modifiers on living weapon gain, yadda yadda or you can go hit a peasant over the head with it and get an exact number.

>>16359515

>RoR

Haven't played those.

>Warframe

I found damage numbers in Warframe to be completely worthless. Either the enemies die in one hit, or they don't. I don't care if I'm doing 420 per shot to a bombard, when he has a scaled amount of health which I don't know, and the next bombard will have a wildly different amount of health because of Warframe's autistic level scaling. The enemies also have health bars AND show any debuffs applied to them, so you don't need damage numbers to tell that there's a Ancient Healer nearby, or to see that your corrosive procced anything like that.

>MHW

>the game goes out of its way to obfuscate the shown weapon damage and the actual dealt damage for some reason.

You have the weapon power and a motion value. Big moves with big weapons have bigger motion value. Big power+big motion value= big damage. Again, it's not like the enemies have a shown number of health somewhere unless you're cheating, so the numbers mean jack shit. Previous MH games indicated you hitting crit spots, or that poison was ticking too. You had bigger blood splashes and stronger hit effects for weak spots, and the monsters drooled poison if afflicted. I mean, if you want to compare damage of moves in your arsenal, it's almost always been retard simple, as in, the big moves did big damage. The damage numbers are completely fucking worthless and were added to hide the lack of blood and pathetic particle effects you get when hitting the monsters.

>nioh

I'll give you that one.

>>16359543

Your point in warframe only really applies if you're using a shotgun. Also corrosive is fucky, as it takes off 25% of the enemies current armor, so stacking procs has diminishing returns.

I know how damage works in MHW, but they still fuck with the numbers. A GS with 1500 damage does not deal 1500 damage even on the strongest hit, unless you have some stupid buffs going on and fighting a dodogama. Sharpness, affinity, elements, and motion values are not only weakly explained or not present, but the actual base damage number is inflated a fuck ton. For example, the shown damage on a great sword is 4.8x the actual damage, and for hammers it's 5.2x, but for it's 1.2x, so comparing damage across weapons becomes incredibly hard to do.

>>16359562

*for bows

Everyone already beat me to it, but I hate the political crap in games, but then again it's in every single aspect of society at this point, so it's not exclusive to the hobby. I pick the push to make everything tied to online where the companies have absolute control and can change or take away stuff at any time. Weasels like to say you've only owned a license, not the game itself, but they know damn well these companies couldn't barge in to your house and take the game away or patch shit in or out. Now it's at the point where even DRM-clients like Steam don't give them enough power, they want to push streaming, which by default is always online.

br

The lack of escapism pisses me off. When I'm looking for something to play, I don't want to be reminded of anything currently happening irl. Ever.

>>16359582

You're shit out of luck then. Modern AAA gaming is all about political agendas and developers pushing their own views into games.

>>16359582

I'm good if I stick with AA and indie, but it's a constant game of Three Card Monty. Every now and then, one dev gets outed for being a faggot of some kind.

>>16359590

Woops. Meant for >>16359590

1. Digital only gaming

2. Microtransactions

3. Sony and Nintendo not giving us the more intelligent option to place our own rechargeable or regular double A batteries in our controllers to get back to the gaming action quickly like based Microsoft does. Microsoft providing us various battery or charge pack options with their controllers is also superior for future proofing their systems for us as when those systems become retro consoles and we get the itch to play them we can do so immediately by slapping in some fresh regular or rechargeable batteries for our Xbox controller whereas if future you wants to do Sony or Nintendo gaming you’re going to have to break out the power drill and desoldering iron and thats only if some company out there is even still making new internal rechargeable batteries that will work with your Nintendo or Sony console’s controllers.

>>16359483

>rs, and hit markers are dumb "feel good feedback" shit from CoD1/2 multiplayer that somehow made it into single-player in the most obnoxious way possible.

I have feeling i can't ptove but i think that hit makers improve accuracy of players by 300%. Perfect reinforcement loop/ All military training sims should have hit markers in the accuracy training stages (oh wait its called reactive targets).

Oh yeah almost forgot…

4. Faggot ass SJW’s crying and getting games censored or trying to do so as well trying and sometimes succeeding (Bioware I’m looking at you) in getting their shitty Jew based homoglobo communist narratives in videogames which is the very last place that bullshit belongs considering gaming is an escapist medium where we go to get away from political and other bullshit for a while.

5. Shitty half done or unfinished and or half assed indie games and uncreative shitty indie games like Fez and Braid that badly try and rip off Nintendo ala Paper Mario in Fez’s case and regular 2D platformer Mario in Braid’s case and all the supposed Metroidvania styled games that are all of them complete and total dog shit when compared to either Super Metroid or Castlevania: Symphony of the Night which they are badly trying to emulate with their shit characters and shit stories.

This fucking atrocious hollynigger CGI "Realism" that keeps plaguing games praised by Journos and cattlekin for their grafiscs.

Normalfags just can't help but masturbate to ugly color grading, shit aesthetics and eye raping lens flare effects on the merits of shader effects per scene powered by nvidia instead of their artistic merit, it's one of the reasons games that are both realistic and pretty scarcely exist these days.

>>16359458

Really I hate any attempt to get someone to play a game that's anything other than "the game is fun".

>thinking you need to have a meaningless leveling system in a game, because apparently people are so vapid that they'll play just to see a bar go up, even though anyone of any actual intelligence should hate when a game insists on reminding them how much of their life has been spent playing it

>or thinking you need to give players meaningless shit for playing, or even worse shit that gives them an in-game advantage, even side-grades still means you have more options than new players which gives you an unfair advantage

Hell on that note people who return to a game solely because some new update got made can go fuck themselves. I hate how they insist that the game needs updates to keep people's attention. That just means they don't actually like the game and only take an interest when something new and shiny is dangled in front of their faces.

Sony

>>16359735

I don't mind leveling when it's to unlock some cool cosmetics, and I think more games should do the COD4 method of cosmetics, as in, you get 10 headshots to unlock something, 20 something else, 100 is the red tiger, and if you get all red tigers in a category, you get the golden skin for a gun in that category. I like that kind of system, since if you see a guy with a golden gun, you'll wonder how much effort he put in to unlock it, instead of how much he paid for lootboxes. But for that kind of system to work, the unlocking of stuff has to be purely dictated by what YOU do and your skill level. Not your team, not some arbitrary ranking number, not matchmaking. But as soon as that shit strays into the other parts of COD leveling; unlocking new guns, perks, killstreaks and other gameplay things that give you an advantage, that shit can go get fucked.

>people who need updates to retain attention in a game

I can understand that for a game with no PVP, since fighting the AI with nothing new to do is going to get repetitive at some point, but if the gameplay is good enough then you can stick with it. But if a game has a PVP mode, you can play that shit forever as long as it was made well enough so that people play differently and don't use the same five characters or weapons.

compshit

>>16359728

Video unrelated I assume, Crysis may have been overhyped a lot but it took a chance on a lot of things that wouldn't be commonplace today now if it did not attempt them. On PC the game looks fantastic to this day and the fun of the game would not be the same if they didn't take those chances to make it look so good.

>>16361290

Crysis looks okay today, definitely long since surpassed.

Diversity for the sake of diversity. Shoehorned in for no reason but politicking.

There is a difference between having a naturally diverse cast and putting the wrong color code in the wrong position. It becomes so acutely obvious that it is some (((punching up))) cancerous trash.

Brown people don't want to see more brown people. They are surrounded by them.

I wish there was a poe or grim dawn tier quality fps arpg

>>16359342

>What is your most disliked trend this gen?

Online multiplayer, every gen since 6th gen.

It has always been for normalfags, even back in the DOS Doom and Quake days, and it's the main reason gaming came to the state it is today. If you ever bought a game for multiplayer, you're part of the problem.

Digital sales

>no way to locally backup or migrate anything (e.g. games, patches, DLC, saves) meaning it's all lost forever once service is discontinued and your console fails

>microtransactions and lootboxes

>censorship and shoehorned marxist political crap

>game installs and patches (especially day-one)

>soulless remasters/remakes made without love to cash in and nostalgia cashgrabs

>>16359405

>at least DLC has the potential to give people good content and extend the life of a given product

a stupid skin or costume, or additional character doesn't extend jack shit. if you want to extend anything, we had that before. it was called an expansion.

>>16359691

>Sony and Nintendo not giving us the more intelligent option to place our own rechargeable or regular double A batteries

<using wireless controllers at all

you'd have had a valid point if you were talking about portables, which won't run off mains without batteries.

>>16361290

>Digital Foundry

They are utter shills.

Go back to cuckchan.

>>16361306

Explain to me how Valve enslaves anyone. Your picture getting to be annoying.

>You don't own your games on STEEEAAM.

Yeah, yeah, I get it. You want to rub your dick all over a CD disk.

Your picture is still nonsensical and stupid.

>>16361852

(you)r faggotry is so great (you) don't even deserve a proper reply

Games with no chat at all. Limited to mic support for squads or something like that. Games that seem DESIGNED to not allow social interaction to thrive.

>develop game

>can't be fucked getting the players to self-censor themselves like in LoL, too difficult

>just remove chat entirely, kill all social gatherings the game might have encouraged

>muh toxicity

Such an abomination. I guess Discord is taking care of the self-censoring aspect since in practice almost nobody gives a shit how pozzed it is. Just remove chat from all games, then replace it with a single platform that's under control. It's literally called discord for God's sake, these names are never ironic.

I guess the problem is that they don't want players running their own servers or having any meaningful level of control over the game. That leads to there being no server admins with the power to kick or ban so the devs are being forced to run the entire game like it's on one gameserver, and do the banning of everyone they don't like by themselves according to their own global rules. In practice that means the masses decide that anyone having fun or winning has got to go because that's "toxic", and feigned friendliness with an emphasis on easy wins and equality take over.

I've mostly played older games this gen with occasional indies, so I've not ran into anything enough to really hate it. I do hate the microtransactions and politics being shoved in games that causes me to skip them though.

>>16359713

>shit metroidvania games

Have you tried Axiom Verge? I thought it was good.

>>16359382

I feel like this about the entire world,Being able to see this go down is really fucking depressing and nobody outside this place understands or cares.This is not just happening to games,people lost their passion or maybe I am some naive failed romantic who thinks they ever had one,You ask most people "what do you want" and they will answer with some materialistic bullshit like newest phone or whatever.You know the born to late for X but born to early for Y memes,I am waiting for my Y

>>16359574

> always online.

That would be bad enough if it was just games,but they want your washer/fridge/house light to be connected 24/7,At some point you really won't have control or final decision about anything,The never ending trading of freedom for convenience

It's something "hard" to explain without coming of as "evil" to most people but I want the only decision chain to be my morality,If I want to pirate or use my PC for illegal shit the only factor should be my morality and not some hard wired .gov shit that decides what I am allowed to run on MY pc,If I want to use a hammer to striker a nail or strike a nigger that's my choice,not the makers of the hammer,not the government,not anybody else but mine,I will probably end up dead somewhere fighting over this but that's how it has to be,I don't trust anybody else to do this

>>16361901

>I guess the problem is that they don't want players running their own servers or having any meaningful level of control over the game. That leads to there being no server admins with the power to kick or ban so the devs are being forced to run the entire game like it's on one gameserver, and do the banning of everyone they don't like by themselves according to their own global rules. In practice that means the masses decide that anyone having fun or winning has got to go because that's "toxic", and feigned friendliness with an emphasis on easy wins and equality take over

That doesn't work either,I play Squad and there are no official server,which by definition means each server is owned by some gay ass niggers in a clan,most admins are leftist because that's the only people who actually care to have power to punish people for what they write in chat or what they have as their character name,Theoretically if you fall into conflict with all the clans you could be banned on all server with no refund.And since there is no official rules or at least no access to them by players the admins are allowed to go as (((broad))) as they want to with no power above them to remind them they aren't gods.Fuck even if there were official rules,look at what ADL put as "hate speech",it's an arms race,always and forever

>>16359394

That's a 'We are not Christians' dogwhistle.

>>16362387

It did to Tetris, at least, but that's because there's no "do fucking nothing in an empty field for half an hour" phase of the round in Tetris. That, and only EA is capable of fucking Tetris up.

>>16362037

>never ending trading of freedom for convenience

we're long past that point. now it's trading freedom and convenience for access.

When will the zombie trend die?

>>16362483

Did you actually read it?

>>16362483

online multiplayer has always been cancer.

>>16362504

These are things that have ruined gaming.

>>16362478

It's always been dead.

>>16361788

>In-game exposition like walky talky segments, where you'll be plodding along and then your movement speed is slowed to a crawl and camera control pried to the subject of interest. Now you have to walk and listen to characters talk for who knows how long and you can't skip it. Even if the game is overall good these segments hurt replay value more than a skippable cutscene could and more often than not it feels less like a means of delivering exposition and character building and more like the devs taking a huge whiff of their own fart and making absolutely sure the player can't play the game without missing their 'vision', extending to the current sony AAA game trends of being meticulously laid out so that you can only play the game the developer wants you to

This shit infuriates me more than anything else, even shoehorned-in communist drivel in games doesn't send my piss to a boil like this does, those sections are also always so strategically made and about as subtle as a sledgehammer, if it's an open world game they put in some scripted shit happening while you walk at the speed of molasses so you can see how "alive" and "immersive" their created world is, along with the obligatory zoom-in to some impressive looking building, it's so masturbatory, it feels like some soyboy developer's gonna cum all over my face just because he modeled a building in a game that looks nice, big fucking deal.

>>16361392

>>The continued rape of old dead franchises for nostalgiabux (The only one of my favorites they haven't done yet is the original Deus Ex)

FYI this only happened because one modder actually did it for free (GMDX, I think) before DXHR released. Got their official consent and everything, and since it required the base game it meant more sales for them with zero work.

Personally don't hate gun stats but can see where you're coming from.

However games like Sekiro with no weapon variety is lame, don't need to go the RNG route of Nioh though, souls did it fine.

>>16361356

Diversity happens because somebody fucked up with enforcing geographical borders and cultural barriers. Even if it's "natural", it still means somebody somewhere fails at protecting their tribe.

>>16361392

I like your videos, but

WHERE IS THE VIDEOGAME

YOU PROMISED THERE WILL BE VIDEOGAME

>>16362805

>"Every game must be for everyone" is codeword for "Hardcores don't care, we want the casual audience".

Supposed photorealism. Welcome to no aesthetics and 60 GIGS CUNT.

>>16361327

Look at the fucking christian t's. What a bait by the (((game devs))).

>>16363164

But you're a huger faggot. Do you think something separates you?

>>16359342

speed running

the idea that someone has to haste pass all the work put in the game really ticks my authism

can apreciate the skills though (but now days seems a good portion of speed runs use tools assist what makes even more cancerous)

>>16363175

>rushing past the game

This implies they don’t have any trouble finding strategies and the ideal route, which is disingenuous. 100% category exists for people like you and me anyway.

>TAS is shit

A human is not performing, but a human is planning. There is an art to exploiting things that are unfeasible or too luck dependent for real-time. The pursuit of optimization means that having savestates and frame advance for a lower barrier of entry warrants much higher standards. Go watch an F Zero GX TAS and tell me it didn’t take any skill to make. Pannenkoek isn’t cool just because of the esotericism of dissecting decades-old games and his wacky terminology, but because he’s fucking good at what he does.

>>16362805

Or an option to say fuck ranked bullshit and let me play on my on server or through a direct connection not controlled by some kike lootbox enabling win/lose algorithm.

>>16361327

The warning back then was just them asking Muslims not to murder them. The current one is pure virtue signaling.

>>16363175

> the idea that someone has to haste pass all the work put in the game

There are different categories, some of which involve collecting everything.

> now days seems a good portion of speed runs use tools assist

Again, different categories. And the TAS scene is way smaller than the non-TAS speedrunning scene. If you actually go to the websites like speedrun.com, you can easily find the runs that you want.

It doesn't sound like you actually know much about this thing that you hate.

>>16363554

Should be updated with the last guy getting banned and buying the game again like a cuck.

>>16363554

Money got involved past the initial "buy a game" phase, making playing on individual servers a bad goy feature. Gotta get those experience points and level up for no reason!

The death of server browsers and community-run servers. Corporations and journalist like to bitch endlessly about muh toxicity. You know how people dealt with that shit 10 years ago? You either sucked it up or the badmin and his fag mods would boot you off the server for some inane reason. But if the admin was being a faggot, you could always find another server where the staff was actually chill eventually. Nowadays big studios implement anti-toxicity features from the top up so everyone suffers equally from said dumb bullshit, but it literally takes less effort on the developers' part by just letting players moderate the game themselves.

Matchmaking unwittingly plays into players acting more like little bitches. After all, you have nothing lose if after this match you will never see the chucklefucks you are playing with again. You'd have to think twice about being a faggot against people you are bound to see more often if you plan on playing regularly on a server. Or people will just votekick you if can't help but loudly vocalize your desire to suck cock at every turn of the match. There's bound to be a large divide in skill in matches without matchmaking, but fuck it, that's one way of learning the game and nobody can say after sustained play that it didn't work. Tryhards would always join some epic clan to seriously compete with others. Remember clan battles? If the game is fun enough, the community will eventually create their own competitive tournaments. Instead big devs like to gamble everything on their game being the next eSports hit, even though success for an online multiplayer game is completely up to luck.

Of course big studios will stick with matchmaking because community-run servers would mean decentralized player progression which means all the business model in place to make extra money off players through lootboxes, multiplayer DLC, boosters, and other shit would be jeopardized, while custom server content and skins easily overrides the need for most whales to waste money on an official skin, as anyone can easily get it by bugging the admin to add it in anyways. Just point this out when someone starts bitching about muh toxicity, tell them that community-run servers could easily solve most ills and then watch as the developer shrinks back because he's too reluctant to let go of his microtransactions. Don't forget all the pointless player progression systems in multiplayer too!

Matchmaking only has a place for 1v1 modes, so basically fightans for the most part.

>>16363596

They pretend to care about toxicity OF OUR CITY because it gives them the excuse to snatch control away from the player. Same exact playbook politicians go by when they talk about muh kids and shit.

>gaming as a service

>early access

>not releasing a fully functional product, let alone one with all the content

>people who hate videogames being in control of videogames

>this shit:

https://invidio.us/watch?v=rhz4wKcuM4A

https://invidio.us/watch?v=j8w1g7x8EjY

>>16359382

I think PC is better off this gen than it was last gen, but that's not saying much.

And the failure of worthwhile successors to games like stalker and mountain blade to appear has definitely done some damage.

>>16363640

Really this gen only looks as tolerable as it does because there were less series and studios for them to kill off during it.

>>16363374

>It doesn't sound like you actually know much about this thing that you hate.

could it be because i hate it and didnt care to look deep into it?

>>>/v/16363733

Requesting for Mark to make this into a banner.

>>16363735

It's the most /v/ post possible. Truly a monument of patheticness that should be immortalized

>>16359342

literally everything

>>16363799

Really it started with GTA.

The death of internally developed game engines. Now even games from different genres look and feel the same. I can easily tell if a game is running on Unity or Unreal just by the lighting and/or physics. Not to mention that this leads to unoptimized and buggier games and makes modding more difficult if not impossible.

>>16363554

Does anyone have the corrected version of this?

>>16363758

Pretty much this. Most, if not all, the modern trends have been cancerous, and are only getting worse.

>>16359371

>If it was the player who could influence stats, or just that each gun had set stats that weren’t hidden, it’d be fine.

Shadow Warrior 2 does that and it sucks.

>>16359342

Buying a game no longer means you own it

>>16364108

3 of those things existed without getting paid for a really really long time.

>>16364119

Well they definitely didn't affect videogames back then.

>>16363295

We all know that dedicated server support is dead because (((they))) can't collect player usage data on servers that aren't their own. So the only thing we can really shoot for is the least cancerous version of matchmaking.

>>16359342

Censorship!

Fuck e-sports, and the bullshit that followed in an attempt to make each game an esport. Hero shooters, specifically. 5v5 and 6v6 matchmaking ranked bullshit to pressure everyone into being faggoty tryhards. As much as the recent entries of the Battlefield series gets (especially Battlefield Vagina), it still remains one of the few shooters on the market that I can just drop in a match and dick around with no care in the world.

BRs, in theory, I should like because I've always preferred FFA deathmatch in most FPS games I played growing up. However, most BRs tend to bring out the negative aspects of the gamemode more (i.e. the actual best strategy is to play like a pussy and hide for most of the match). Each BR out there tends to have just one thing that is a typical dealbreaker for me. PUBG is janky as fuck and overrun by ni haos. Fortnite has autistic building bullshit. Apex is a fucking hero shooter with no solo mode. So on and so on.

>>16359342

Forced SJW politics. I'm not against politics in games, but I'm against blatant propaganda pretending to be a game.

Are there any recent games that do politics well? Either by letting the player make their own choice, or at least not blatantly telling a player X is the correct choice without any believable reason as to why?

>>16364269

Kinda surprised nobody has made some sort of mechanic in a battle royal game that forces your bomb collar to sound an alarm if you go so long without shooting or something. Anything to instigate more actual fighting.

>>16364295

It's simple, really. There's a reason why the playing field is less than half the space of any given sports stadium.

>>16359363

Spoken like a scrub without the reflexes to pull off a parry, or the will to practice and git gud.

>>16359394

About the only time I've personally experienced one of those notices that didn't come off as simply gratuitous virtue signalling was El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron, a game with a very loose, very fucking bizarre interpretation of biblical apocrypha. And the screen didn't have anything whatsoever about "fags, trannies, and attack helicopters made this", rather more a reminder that the Japanese aren't especially prone to being Christian or jewish, so don't string up the game or the developers over inaccuracies and liberties taken in the name of surrealism and/or fun. Closer to >>16361327 , really. I took more issue with the ten or so unskippable logo screens you have to sit through each boot-up.

Do have to wonder now if it had a screen like that in the Japanese release though, but I assume in its native market next to nobody would get remotely offended over the game's content.

>>16364273

I'm inclined to believe that the only good political game is Deus Ex, and not the new ones.

>>16364330

Actually taking offense isn't going to stop someone from trying to sue. They'd want to cover every possible base they can lest someone imports a copy without that screen and files a potential suit.

>>16364286

The BR game I enjoyed the most was The Culling. There were so many things going for it, but the devs fucked up royally and killed the game.

It was a much smaller scale (16 player BR) on a much smaller map in which games lasted for maybe 20 minutes max. The stage closed in the exact same pattern, always to the center of the map, so everyone knew that they'd eventually end up there. The center was pretty barren so you had to run around to certain parts of the map and engage in combat to gear up so camping wasn't nearly as viable outside of getting ahead and using time to set up some traps in the center. Best of all, the match started with everyone in a box in the wilderness. If you didn't get good loot, you could craft some basic shit so you could have a fighting chance. The game was also primarily melee focused, in that guns were rare, ammo was even more rare, and the only other ranged weapons were either a bow or throwing your weapon.1

But the devs listened to whiny streamers, and did some horrendous balance changes that proved to be unpopular and quickly killed the game. After the shitshow with The Culling 2, they tried to relaunch the original game as it was before the balance changes, but it was too late. Now that relaunch is being sunset.

>>16364295

Yeah, that's also a great point. Most people aren't gosu esports pros, so designing a game specifically for them is an exercise in folly. You're just going to get a shit game that only appeals to tryhards that doesn't really go anywhere because the actual pros see no reason to ditch their current game for a game that a bunch of wannabe pro faggots are playing.

However if you make a game that is, at its core, just a fun experience but with a small sprinkle of possible competitive play, that's all you need. The scene will build itself.

Probably the worst thing is when people try to force a game that isn't an esport to be an esport. MLG Gamebattles is trying to turn Battle Royales into a competitive thing in the most absolute retarded way. Since you can't really guarantee each person or squad gets put in the match, they don't compete against each other. Rather, at least with Fortnite, it's two teams of 2 thrown into a squad, they each drop at a different place, and whichever team gets the most kills wins. It's fucking dumb.

I dunno. I think if you don't like multiplayer games it's because you're bad at games in general. My friends who play pick modes that involve co op or humans vs computers. They have no willpower to "git gud"

The OP point about gun damage is wrong because the weapons in Sekiro have numbers too.

>>16364349

>The stage closed in the exact same pattern, always to the center of the map

I thought that was the standard.

>>16364363

A lot of these kinds of posts are very obviously developer sockpuppets or competitors trying to sabotage other games.

Censorship above all else

Every story centered game being a plodding mess of doing nothing and leaving the ending of the story feeling like you only completed half of the story leaving you with a giant

TO BE CONTINUED… BUY THE NEXT GAME

bullshit plot contrivance. No one has a story anymore, it's JJ abrams mystery boxes and "well answer your questions that will satisfy you in the next game w-w-we promise"

>>16364394

Why would someone who claims to have no time to play games make dozens or even hundreds of posts on a forum to complain about it 24/7? This is not the behavior of someone with little time to play games.

>>16364400

I'd assume they phonepost on the forums or post from work because they're faggots. I can't fucking imagine how cancerous the subreddit of said game is, if the forums are as bad as they are

>>16364394

In my experience in workplace, acquaintances and relatives, the ones who play multiplayer are the normalest of normalfags, and the more normalfag they are, the more multiplayer-focused they are. Yes most of the guys I'm talking about are ones that work full-time with families and even married with kids in many cases.

That the games require commitment isn't usually an issue because their gaming life will revolve around these few titles (5 at most) that they will keep playing for years (CoD, CSGO, nuDoom, Minecraft, PUBG, are all pretty popular around here among these people) while ignoring anything else.

I will say again, online multiplayer was patient zero for almost everything else that people complain about in threads like this, including stuff not directly related, and doesn't take any genius to see that. The groundwork for the ruin of gaming was already set well before 2007, I could already see it around 2005 or so when the 7th gen was announced with a bigger focus on online. I believe /v/ doesn't speak much about it because most of current /v/ is actually guilty of helping to enable this shit.

>streaming

Especially the fact that there's now a generation of young people who would rather watch other people play video games than actually play games themselves.

>early access

Originally it seemed like a decent enough idea for crowdfunded games to help generate revenue and some free advertising. Letting a backer pay a bit of money to play the game in its current state and onward throughout development to release would draw in more customers who would then also provide free advertising by talking about the game. This very quickly went to shit when it turned into an excuse to just release incomplete games at or near full retail price. I remember when Epic was still claiming Fortnite was in early access while selling physical copies for ps4 and xbone at full retail price.

>>16364807

>>16364505

>Yes most of the guys I'm talking about are ones that work full-time with families and even married with kids in many cases.

That reminds me of something else I forgot to mention in my last post: people who use shit like "I have a life" as an excuse for wanting easier/shorter/generally shittier games, especially considering how often these are the same people who will brag about how much they love binge watching shit on netflix.

>all games should be easy mode "cinematic experiences" because I'm just too busy living my life to not suck ass at video games

>now if you'll excuse me, I have to watch 9 solid hours of supernatural

>>16364825

>supernatural

What is it with this god damn show. They're unironically the husbandos of my female family members.

>>16364825

>have no time for games

>want shorter games instead of one that lasts you longer

They're shills.

>>16364308

t. Sekiro apologist

>>16359342

>but personally i cannot stand "here are two identical guns, but the one with a purple name does 18 more shootbangs of ouchnotches compared to the one with a blue name".

this is something that goes back to old rogue games. you could have 2 daggers with varying attributes.

you're a faggot

>>16359342

The injection of influencer media into the mainstream fucking with normalfag's consumer behavior. normalfags are told what to like by the (((influencers))) and spread it to the other normalfag friends.

Like is devolving into one giant corporate-controlled skinner box with manufactured opinions. Next generation is going to be all about sites being flooded machine-algorithm based posting by bot accounts instead of dirty spics, russians and pajeets.

>>16364400

Because their idea of "too busy" is warped. I constantly see people say "I'm busy" as they sit on the couch, with the TV on and staring at their phone

>>16371903

>this is something that goes back to old rogue games. you could have 2 daggers with varying attributes.

Truly Destiny is the most like Rouge.

>>16371903

That doesn't stop it from being stupid. If a weapon's going to be objectively better it should look the part rather than just being a single number's difference.

>>16365451

What gets me is the fact that it's been on the air since 2005 but it's only within the last 2-3 years that suddenly I see people talking about it online all the time like it's the hot new thing.

>>16359342

Non white characters.

>Ye olde +7 sword of slightly less faggotry

<I love replaying the great classics such as Diablo!

>+30 SUPER BADASS BLOODFUCKER SMG

<How could bottom feeding retards ever enjoy this

You only dislike it because Borderlands was absolute shit and it poisoned the well.

>>16373148

I bet you also think MMOs existed before WoW.

>>16386014

Because compilations are for those with a low IQ and even lower attention spam.

>>16386577

No shit.

https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

>that fucking page quote

Remakes/remasters. I had a lot of fun with REmake one and two but it bothers me that they seem to have some idea of what made those games fun but can't seem to make NEW games fun.

>>16386604

Forget about fun. Half the time they seem to have no idea how those games even run considering most remasters completely fuck the game on a technical level.

>takes an entire team of dozens of codemonkeys and art grads to fuck up something a handful of dudes can do for free on the internet

Complete and total embarrassment.

>>16363596

Freedom of association is dead in this modern post civil rights era. It caught up with the internet eventually, sadly. You cant have your own dedicated server the same ay you cant own a store with a sign saying "we dont serve faggots here" without getting Jew lawyers sueing you into oblivion on behalf of butthurt faggots and soccer mom enablers.

I still game on the PS3. Looking at the output and variety of issues in this current generation makes 7th gen look like gold.

Don't even respond to it.

>>16386928

>Racist cuck

Anon, lack of racial segregation is why we're in this mess to begin with.

>>16386898

I still game on the X360, and I noticed every game before 2008 or so are very good. They look like 6th gen.

>>16386942

There was a marked change some time in 2006 to 2008, depends on the series in question really but Gears and MGS4 was when I really started seeing it, where people just said fuck it and put filters on everything. If you look at early 360 games they're really clean and kind of nice looking but loot at anything towards the end of its life and it looks like complete ass.

>>16386600

Dont read the one on Ford. That one will make you want to gouge out your eyes. As if it was not bad enough the communists are all good guys in that series given how many died to communism while the nazis are the big bad templars despite having killed far fewer in comparison.

>>16386986

The Ford one's great but I really wanted that instant taste of ridiculousness the Tesla quote has.

>>16359342

>What is your most disliked trend this gen?

Mario. I hate how they make same games forever.

>>16359458

>forcing a 50% win rate

This always makes keeping a group of friends interested in any game with it fucking impossible. The experience of suddenly getting stomped ten games in a row by getting matched against fucking professionals after having a few consecutive victories, no matter how little the wins were by, is god damn miserable.

>>16387123

And of course the other side of this isn't cool either where after getting stomped, we get matched against brain dead babies and in the end maybe 10% of the matches are actually fair fights.

>Shoe-horned numbers porn

>RNG progression

>Microtransactions for anything but skins. Even skins is a stretch too far.

>No longer hiring modders, or turning modders work into commercialized work by having them work with the company.

>It's a sequel but there's no actual advancement in technology to compliment the new story

>No longer the cool granite effects or atmospheric lighting we had in Unreal Engine 2. Have these Anti-aliasing effects that make the game look blurry as fuck goy.

>Lack of stylizing your game. Now people make it realistic and completely lacking in style, and it's no longer memorable.

>Making the graphics come first, instead of building a game and then making the graphics around it with effects that compliment it (like FEAR)

>Decisions that don't matter

>Accuracy with guns is random, and they feel awkward to control

>No FOV sliders

>Bad options menus

>Poor optimization

>Meaningless "ultra" graphics settings

>Pseudo-MMO's

>Poor pacing and tempo

That's all I can think of right now and dear god do I see it a lot.

>>16359342

>What is your most disliked trend this gen?

Developers and creators telling their customers that they can go fuck themselves.

Not only does it taint all the current releases, it also poisons everything those people touched during the previous decades.

>>16387638

>No longer hiring modders

They skipped that step and just made their interns release meme skin mods instead for viral marketing.

>>16387638

>not liking number porn

>implying you wouldn't fuck a 7

>>16387693

>wanting to fuck the digit with the least curve

I think you might be gay.

>>16387699

>muh thicc

Fucking niggers get out of my board.

>>16387720

You can be curvy and flat you know.

Multiplayer in general

>>16359342

Match Making

Defective developers use it as a crutch to try (and fail) to make up for being garbage at balancing the powers between game mechanics by balancing the skill levels between players instead, which is physically impossible to do in any way that is fair or fun. Match making is a form of Communism in video game form.

A growing number of RPG mechanics in every single genre, including arcade type genres that are traditionally built around all player skill with no RPG numbers doing the work for you. It's the perfect compliment to the "Every video game needs to be an immersive experience" cancer that is modern video games, because it's the best way to represent "You, the Player" growing with the story so normals can feel like they're not failures who deserve their boring, uninteresting life that goes forever in circles until they die.

>>16400042

You'd be lucky if it actually fixed anything either.

The lack of per pixel dynamic lights/shadows and integrating them into gameplay. If Thief was able to show PC games were capable of this in 1998 and Splinter Cell shower console games could do them in 2002, then it should've long been an industry standard.

>b-b-but pre-baked lighting is easier!

Fuck off. In the years that this has become lost art, we could've continued to further optimize it to become the norm. Having pajeets and bitches, not to mention failed art cucks who need baked in lighting for muh vision muh interactive expurence, in place of people with actual programming talent has also contributed to this decline

>>16359477

>whitehouse

mein neger.

Tacked on stealth that consists of pressing a button when you get within 50 feet of an enemy or headshotting them from wherever with one of your 50 different completely silenced weapons.

>>16414271

I wouldn't call stealth tacked on in modern games so much as piled on so sloppily it smothers the rest of the game.

Dlcs.

There are lots of horrible trends (ugly females, sjw propaganda, Hollywood-like style, lots of padding…) that I can avoid just by ignoring the games and companies that I don't like. But dlcs infect pretty much everything.

>>16411033

They don't really "love" non-European history or other religions, they just use it as a tool to attack Europeans and Christianity. Leftists are actually pretty ignorant about the world.

>>16359342

Oh and almost forgot. I hate the Indie game trend and I cant wait for the meme to die. Indie games which tend to be shovelware are worst then AAA games hands down. Best games are often middle market games directed at a targeted or niche audience.

indies that are trash shovelware or appeal to popular trends instead of real indies of 90s that turned into successful companies (many sold out but thats not the point)

free to play shit like fortnite and pubg and mocrotransactions that have been jewed to a whole level with battle passes and seasons.fuck modern devs.

>>16415730

It's like a reverse Truman Show. Really makes me wonder just how organic all this shit actually is.

>>16415730

>>16415744

better yet, some guy managed to get an answer, or rather an excuse, from one of the customers. 4:50-5:50

<I'm lonely and have no friends, so in order to make friends I pay people to boost up my account to get enough respect from players so I can talk to them.

>>16415760

forgot the video like an idiot

Forcing memes like battle royale in to every fucking game you can think of in an attempt to win over retards. Tetris 99 is good though.

>>16415960

that game's not a battle royale. it's literally just tetris, only instead of a 6-player room, there's 100 players. similarly, playing UT with 100 players on the map wouldn't make it a battle royale.

>>16362478

>we got 4 zombie game in 8 years

<when it will die

it have been more often that we had WW1 games faggot

You do realize Hitman guns have stats right?

>>16359394

You do realize that's to tell right wing soccer moms that not everything is a target on their religion?

It started with assassin's Creed(back when it was good) since the first game was controversial

>>>/v/16420384

>ever believing the soccer mom scapegoat

>>16420392

That's literally what it is dumb fuck boomer

>>>/v/16420400

Just letting you know you won't convince anyone.

>>16420406

That's fine with me

Also why are you putting /v/ in the reply?

>>16415730

In highschool I made cash doing runescape quests for classmates

>>16387123

Mario kart is not about skill anymore.

Smash is not really about skill since melee.

Why did Nintendo of all people join the vanguard on removing fun from their games?

>>16364505

Instead of increased local play options we cut that cord and forced people into matchmaking lobbies on undedicated servers.

I miss the days of lugging my Xbox and TV to whoever had the system link box with 4 ports.

>>16388046

Yeah curvy with fat rolls and a flat iq of 0

>Shoving niggers into everything

>Microtransaction kikery

>Lootboxes

>(((Early Access)))

<y most disliked trend is that people in the UK are calling computer games video games. Sick of the Americanisms that are creeping into our language tbh

>>16420384

>to tell right wing soccer moms

>sexual orientations and gender identities

Yeah, your evil right wing boogymen really think those are important, retard.

Open Beta, Early Access, etc. There's no way getting a bunch of redditors "test" your game for free is better than having some professional testers that actually do things and don't shove pozz up your ass.

>>16440782

This is a major issue. Because of outcry, games are now compromises to be as inclusive as possible, which not only prevents complex storytelling but also any interesting gameplay as well. They’re so inoffensive towards anything that it becomes offensive to the player’s intelligence.

>>16363596

>If the game is fun enough, the community will eventually create their own competitive tournaments

>The death of server browsers and community-run servers

But anon, the only games with community-run tournaments and no matchmaking are old games.

>>16440801

>>16440782

You're a dumbdumb if you think developers actually listen to that crap and don't just use it as an excuse, perhaps even with sockpuppetting, to do what they want. A million people could tell them straight up to make a game with big fat assed and tittied bitches walking around killing niggers or whatever and they'd never, ever do it.

>>16441312

They would if that was the zeitgeist. The individuals themselves can think whatever they want, but the people they work for with the money only believe in making more money.

Right now the koolaid has seeped so deep into western culture that normalfags have developed pavlovian reflexes. They shun beauty because they've been trained to think it's bad and they love "inclusivity" because they've been trained to think it's good, and they make up the audience the people with the money want to sell things to so of course they'll play to that tune.

>>16421661

So much this, how the fuck does EVERY community discord end up having trannies for moderators? There cannot be that many trannies, they must be doubling up.

say it with me B A T T L E R O Y A L E

>>16441352

>people they work for with the money only believe in making more money

This is what managers and middle-men work for. People at the top are concerned with power and control, money is but a means to that end. This is top down manipulation.

>>16449201

the games just suck all the players away from other multiplayer games because they have such huge fucking match sizes and the most popular ones are F2P, and whether u enjoy esports or not i think they also killed any momentum esports had by limiting playerbases

Motion capture character animations. Especially on the faces. Human skin also looks bad on almost every "realistic" looking character. I can't explain why, but just looks gross. Like it's soggy and dank or something.

>>16449201

This this this

>>16359342

fortnite/pubgrounds/apex legends/whatever the fuck the flavor of the month shooter lord of the flies wannabe free game is out.

This shit is so formulaic and dull that after 2 hours these games are 0 fun anymore.

I just want muh quake 3 rocket launcher back.

>>16359342

Gacha games allowed on /v/ are my least favorite trend right now.

>>16450215

It's also why they want to replace whites as their main demographic.

>>16449180

>why do degenerates want to mod attention whoring social platforms

because it's an unpaid position where the only value you can derive from it is the attention, ability to push agendas, and ego-stroking that comes with the role.

So anyone starved for these tidbits will of course gravitate to these positions. Simply put, any person worth a damn isnt going to waste their time doing these jobs unless they are very passionate about the community. But anyone smart enough isnt going to want to use discord that much in the first place.

>>16359342

No banter allowed. Cant handle banter

>>16359356

You could do this in Dirge of Cerberus.

Over saturated colors and visuals. It makes your mind blank out so you just like to mindlessly blow shit up. Booted up some hordes of the under dark the muted colors Felt better then the color gore i see nowadays even secret of mana for the snes had some reservation.