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SKIP WALKING SEGMENT

I do not understand whose 300 IQ idea it was to give you long 1.5+ minute long, unskippable walking simulator parts for a game that you would be replaying for three different endings and then letting you skip the short, ~20 second cutscenes anyway.

You know what, as a general game option, I'd like any game to give me the option to completely skip all ingame interruptions like cutscenes, dialog, slow animations like opening heavy doors or the saving animations, shit like that.

>>16348595

Is this the thread to rage about games that don't let you reverse the camera controls at all?

WHY THE FUCK CAN'T YOU REVERSE THEM IN SOME GAMES?

>using reverse camera controls

Savages.

>>16348614

You can on PC if you wanted but most games don't support it.

>>16348999

literally every old PC game has that

>>16349236

I mean specifically for console games, it'd be such an easy feature to implement and yet devs couldn't give a fuck about it. And yes I'm aware they don't give a fuck about a lot of other things as well, this just bothers me more.

>More games need separate volume controls for BGM, SFX, and Voice, and the minimum better be 0% so you can play without voices. Ideally this should affect FMVs as well.

>Press start during cutscene to bring up a menu that lets you pause to go take a piss or to just skip the cutscene (because fuck I hate missing a cutscene because it skips it instead of pausing or when you want to skip but you can only pause).

>>16349301

Thankfully emulation fixes that. The real travesty is pc games that both don't have it and don't work with shit like joytokey so you're stuck with the default controls unless you buy one of those usb adapters that let you remap inputs at the hardware level.

Keyboard and mouse or other controllers on consoles. Even if the PS4 had good exclusives, I would never get one because I'd be forced to play with that shit fucking controller. And sure, you can use $80 adapters but I'm not paying that amount of money for something so basic.

>>16349429

I've had an idea for a while now to make a device that does just that, except for older consoles. Plug it in between the console and the controller, and you can remap buttons from the device itself or via Bluetooth. Would this work well?

I wish doujin games had keyboard input remapping support in general. Only a very, very rare few ever have.

>>16348999

>Super Metroid got it right and that was in 1994 for fucks sake

It was so close, but in fact you could not remap diagonal aiming controls to anything but the shoulder buttons. If you want to, say, put the run button on L for instance, you have to sacrifice one of your diagonal aiming inputs. It's always been a lingering criticism to Super Metroid.

>>16349236

And then the indie wave came on the coattails of Cave Story in the late '00s and undid two decades of progressive input configuration advancements.

>>16349602

The most frustrating thing about 2 was watching Lara climb walls slower than a five year old could manage.

>>16348607

>I'd like any game to give me the option to completely skip all ingame interruptions

Furi has this option, it just doesn't let you see the endings or get the normal achievements when you play that mode.

>>16349711

Yeah, Practice mode. It's just that if I was curious as to see if the Song puts out if you stay with her, or what happens if I decided to wreck the planet, I have to go through those walking sections again. Or The Beat, fuck the Beat. Shitty fucking "muh feels" boss.

>>16350156

I'd lose my goddamn mind

>>16349602

Really the worst part about the power gauntlets in Zelda is how they never increase your damage.

I know your exact feel op, for some reason a bunch of N64 games only had 1 inverted and it pissed me off

—ability to rebind all controls. for example I despise using UP to hard drop pieces on Tetris, it hurts my left thumb. on keyboard it's a common practice to rebind hard drop to a key close to the (2 or 3) rotation keys.

—also, the ability to fucking set up analog stick deadzones (shape, inner/outer thresholds, curves). how is this not a thing? I mean programs like x360ce have had it for a very long time. there's nothing that ruins a game relying on analog controls worse than inaccurate, wonky movement.

—make all cutscenes pausable and skippable. I don't need to watch the 10 minute intro a 5th fucking time, and disabling pause is plain retarded.

>>16350028

X marks the spot (go for it). Triangle means eject (exit). alternatively, X is a checkmark, O means zero (nothing, null, empty) :^)

>>16355504

You cross out the things you don't want, and circle the things you do.

Reminder that some playstation games were returned as defective because burgers couldn't figure this out and couldn't get past the title screen.

>>16355534

>Reminder that some playstation games were returned as defective because burgers couldn't figure this out and couldn't get past the title screen.

Source?

>>16355534

That's such a bullshit tale I want to believe it.

>>16348595

Every game should have an incredibly easy mode so that people who are too busy to be skilled at video games can play the game and be done with it.

Vid related is exactly the kind of options all video games need. I don't understand why the guy in the video is making fun of it, it's totally the correct thing to do.

>>16355690

But why? So far nothing I've encountered in Sekiro was bullshit or untelegraphed sans a wonky hitbox.

>>16355690

if you want a movie just watch uncommentated let's plays.

That's why they are so prominent (and also because kids have no money for videogames).

>>16355690

They just can't admit they don't even like playing games anymore and only want to watch bad cutscenes because Hollywood is so awful now that even shitty game "movies" are more interesting.

>>16355714

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>>16355787

>biting the obvious (1) bait

>>16355675

>>16355679

I can't find the name of it but there was one game that got released in the west that didn't switch confirm/cancel from the Japanese defaults and it got returned by burgers because it was "broken".

Now when I try to search for it all I find are articles about custom mappings on PS4 and shit, but I swear it happened.

>>16349602

Tales of Symphonia had a lot of this, too. Fuck block puzzles.

The option to refuse any quest in rpgs. I should be able to say no to the stormcloaks and imperials, and have them finish their war without me. Not freeze the world in time until I join one of them.

Console fags are truly ass cancer

>>16355534

>>16355871

Probably a metal gear solid game, that's the only I remember that's both kept the jap control scheme and popular enough as well. That being said im pretty sure the 'traditional' control scheme with 4 buttons face buttons is that the bottom button is confirm and the right one is cancel goes back to the snes days.

>>16350028

Why the heck did the X/O swap even happen in the first place? Sure, nowadays having X=yes is just standard practice in the West, but why was it ever changed to begin with? Though putting all that aside, I do find it more comfortable, since in most games, the base of your thumb should be resting on X anyways, and confirming an action is much more common than than cancelling one.

>>16348607

In some games, they mask loading screens. Furi is not one of them AFAIK though.

>>16355868

I don't get it

>>16381038

>Can't turn off music, can only turn volume down all the way so it's still wasting resources playing muted music

Even worse:

>Only one volume slider

>No separate options for SFX, BGM, Voice, etc.

I'd love it if more games had the option to use HID compliant controllers.

XInput is an inferior standard

>>16348607

They added two options in Furi for that. First, press a button and he'll automatically walk to the next fight so you can just listen to the story and look at the crazy scenes. Or if you just want to fight and don't give a fuck about anything else, there's a boss rush/speed run mode where it just instantly starts the next fight as soon as you win.

>>16375216

Yeah MGS3 had the reversed X and O functions. Threw me off quite a bit at first, and continued to do so now and then because it was the exact opposite of literally every other game I played.

>>16355504

>>16350028

>>16381063

Remember guys, most in Japan are more comfortable with the Nintendo peripheral of having the "Right Button" be the Yes to everything.

They just appealed to everybody's comfort zone in each part of the globe. Have you noticed that every platformer for the NES made in Japan is usually A to Jump, while the rest of the world was B?

>>16381226

I would have thought despite that, consistency would have been more important, so I thought maybe there was some kind of precedent I wasn't aware of.

>>16382484

What major console before the PS1 had the Yes button on the left in America?

>Have you noticed that every platformer for the NES made in Japan is usually A to Jump, while the rest of the world was B?

Considering most good NES games were Japanese, it would've annoyed me even back then to play a NES game with the jump button swapped, and even then I don't think that was always the case with American-made NES games.

>>16381226

Because that's where B is supposed to be, and everyone knows that's the cancel/back button, which is why they made it X. (The PS1 WAS originally supposed to be the "Nintendo Playstation", so it probably did have the SNES button names up until Nintendo backed out.)

The bizarre control reversal on American Sony consoles becomes even MORE bizarre when you realize that it didn't start out that way; a bunch of early Playstation games, including sacred cow Final Fantasy VII, have the buttons the right way around, making it even more bizarre that they switched later.

>>16383063

The only game I can recall on NES that had B for jump was Werewolf: The Last Warrior - which was actually a pretty decent game, but the backwards controls really screwed me up.

Other than that, I can't think of a single one, Western or otherwise, that had B and A reversed. The closest I can think is those weird Simpsons games where you had to hold down A to run, but even there, A was also the jump button.

>>16348607

>I'd like any game to give me the option like cutscenes, dialog, slow animations like opening heavy doors or the saving animations, shit like that.

>to completely skip all ingame interruptions

I'll do you one better: games need the option to disable them altogether

>>16384899

Damn, I fucked up the greentext

>>16348959

Well no shit. You could on any console if you wanted, too, providing the games support it. But almost none do. That's literally what his complaint was.

>>16348999

I go out of my way to not use this on games that allow it. I used to do it on fighting games, for example, but then when I would go to my friend's house I'd be fucked because the controls would feel "wrong." But no, I was wrong. I'll get used to the default controls and then I can play the game at a friend's house and not have to waste time customizing my own controls and looking like a bitch.

>>16349443

WASD is an awful control scheme for movement. I get people saying they want mouse controls instead of the right stick being used for a lot of things, but keyboard is really only useful if the game is suffering for lack of inputs, which only affects a few genres which are somewhat niche anyway. Also, mouse replacing right stick would be fine when right stick is then camera, but then you'd be sacrificing buttons unless your mouse has like eight buttons on it (which is how many inputs your right hand gets on a modern controller, plus moving the joystick). Then this is used for the justification of using a keyboard with your left hand, but then you're fucking yourself by replacing the analog movement of the left stick with WASD. Also I get triggered because W isn't actually directly above S, so it feels like I should be walking slightly to the left when I press it.

Also, the advantages to mice largely apply only to FPS and a couple other things. The genres I like are mostly from before joysticks anyway, so I don't give a shit. But they are shit to play on a keyboard.

>>16349602

From this angle, this pic looks like there's some sort of level you have to take a shit in a giant hole until it's filled, while hiding behind a giant block so nobody can see you.

>>16349652

The door times are incorporated into how fast you're expected to be able to speedrun it. If they could be skipped, the times would be different.

>>16350028

A lot of SNES games do work like american playstation games, though. Super Mario All Stars even let you change the controls to make the bottom button the equivalent of NES A instead.

It is stupid to ever change the controls though. I'll get used to it either way.

>>16382484

>Have you noticed that every platformer for the NES made in Japan is usually A to Jump, while the rest of the world was B?

Uh… no? It happened sometimes, but it was always shit, because it was always super rare. Americans were all copying Super Mario Bros. anyway.

NES isn't really even applicable to this argument because no button was on the "bottom."

>>16391353

>Well no shit. You could on any console if you wanted, too, providing the games support it. But almost none do. That's literally what his complaint was.

I used Steam's controller configuration to do that. I haven't encountered a game that natively supports that. That is how I played Hotline Miami.

>>16391353

>The door times are incorporated into how fast you're expected to be able to speedrun it. If they could be skipped, the times would be different.

Is such a minor concern more important than having to waste so much time watching the animations? Besides,there's no reason the timer couldn't just stop during them.

>>16394230

>Is such a minor concern more important than having to waste so much time watching the animations? Besides,there's no reason the timer couldn't just stop during them.

What I was saying is that you shouldn't be able to "skip" them because that would just be free time. You'd need more substantial changes, not simply the option to skip them. Still doable though, of course.

>>16394957

All that would be needed is for the option to skip them and the game not counting any time during the animation. Easy.

No niggers mode.

>>16381080

Bayonetta's practice mode gave you feedback on how frequently you used specific moves and combos, so you could tell when your playstyle was growing stale. It would be harder to do with DMC5 but I see what he means.

>>16394976

Yes easy. I'm just being autistic. You'd need to change all the times in order not to count those things.