/v/ - Video Games

>>16327842

>ITS COMING OUT IN 6 DAYS and 0 fucking thread about it?

>Pisstation exclusive.

Well, found you an answer.

>>16327859

>console war peasant

be an idort or shut the fuck up

>>16327864

There's no class per se, create your character and choose the armor you want to use

>>16327842

i prefer the original voices, those sound lame

also, why is it an isekai?

>>16327882

You can fly around your dude with swag as fuck Dream Club T-shirt

>>16327884

>current year jap game

>why is it an isekai

>>16327862

>be an idort or shut the fuck up

Never, not unless industry unfuck itself. Fuck you American sonyggers, you're everything wrong with this industry and why this piece of shit of a company backstabbed Japan. It's a shame this game is locked behind this trashbox, I can give you that however. And this is what I was talking about, a big portion of /v/ won't stop supporting them no matter what they do, censorship certainly did nothing and in the end they got away with it which is depressing. You morons will buy even pisstation5.

>>16327884

Its not an Isekai, D3 have a funny way to promote their game. Mr.Honda and Himekawa was the characters in EDF5 advert.

>>16327918

>They'll port it eventually

I don't doubt it for the reasons you stated. You'd have to be retarded to put your game on one platform willingly without (((profitable deal))) anyway.

>I'd rather wait honestly

This is the only right choice. Fuck the cancer who still wants to support this shitty company.

>>16327934

Doesn't seem like there's a vehicle restriction.

>>16327934

Theres tank and mech in this game, not sure how you summons them, 1 thing I know is that the new class Prowl Rider give you the abilities to ride insect

>>16327942

You do you, I'm just gonna play video games that interest me regardless. Enjoy being mad

>character creation

>no loli option

Why bother?

>>16327970

>Only 2 gender

TRIGGERED, I LITERALLY CAN'T EVEN

>>16327949

Wew lad.

>>16327965

I'm not really mad. I actually feel nothing, I'm not even depressed anymore. In fact I think you deserve to be treated this way and I don't mind, I only feel sorry for the devs getting fucked by kikes at soyny because of you.

>>16327992

>Buy their game

>"poor dev, stop buying their game, you are ruining them!"

Yeah, I don't follow

>>16328007

I mainly referring to censorship.

>>16328023

Feel free to bitch in a thread about censorship, this is EDF thread, we don't participate in console warring or any moral faggotry.

I started EDF4.1 recently with the sale it had. Want to play more but not much time for now.

I also shilled it to some friends and they are waiting for the next sale, probably during summer.

>>16328038

I'm almost tempted to accuse you of being a shill because of how absurdly fucking stupid you are. Do you even qualify as a sentient creature if you're retarded enough to justify censorship with "lol i dont care about politics or console wars :D"?

>>16328047

Wrong thread anon, if you calm down and not seething with rage about Sony, you would notice that this is EDF thread because so far, I didn't notice any censorship in the game.

>>16328093

its for the bump, peoples tend to take notice if the thread have 100+ post, I can always filter them later

Isn’t that the shitty western made one?

>>16328080

Yes anon, I don't care. Please bitch about sony or censorship or SJW in GG thread, keep fighting the good fight, I'll be rooting for you from here.

>>16328089

You do know that when you even buy games for pisstation you're giving money to soyny, right?

>>16328115

I also give money to the dev

>>16328144

Anything for you anon, actually I'm trying to find gameplay with vehicle on it, it bugs me that I don't know how tanks works in this game, or airstrike if they even have any

>OP acts like a giant retard, responds to every negative post, makes up nearly half the posts in his thread, and ruins his thread in general

Sarias, is that you? I would have loved to talk about EDF, except you went and became a giant defensive idiot.

>>16327842

Isn't this only on soystarion?

>>16328080

>Do you even qualify as a sentient creature if you're retarded enough to justify censorship with "lol i dont care about politics or console wars :D"?

There was a change in the name of the EDF5 alien forces (from "Immigrants" in the first trailer to "Primers" in late development) but the game was fun enough, and a big improvement over 4.1, to overlook such an insignificant issue.

Iron Rain has more pressuring issues in appearance (in-game currency that could fuck up easily the progression, fighting human rebels in the story missions) than this constant meme scarce over censorship

>>16328166

But anon, D3 is the publisher. Please stop talking about a game you're not even a fan of, its embarrassing the way you try to fit in.

>>16328170

So far yes, not sure if theres plan to port it to PC EDF5 didn't even have a PC release yet

>>16328038

Negative faggot

PC or no sale

>>16327908

its online PvP 4 vs 4

As interesting as it looks, im not going to touch it until i see some user reviews. I waited for 5 and ill wait for iron rain im in no rush. The whole in game currency makes me worry

Some influencer streamer got early access to the game. Anyway this time stamp shows off a big destructive weapon called the apocalypse. Nothing close to the genocide gun but it's more like a EDF5 wing diver nuke. It's at 45:36.

>>16328221

I don't see D3 as the kind of company that paid steamer to play their game, do they even have money to spare for that? All their advert is using the in game animation and cheeky effect.

>>16328343

For once a tor poster says something not completely fucking retarded.

>>16328176

Yeah, those retarded posts is the reason why I think pisstation 5 will be quite successful and people on /v/ will buy it too. Though deep down I'm still hoping for soyny going down thanks to this thread since there seems to be plenty anons who boycotted them. Wish more people did that though.

OP is a faggot as usual because there are better means for supporting the dev. I bet they would actually give you directions how to give them the money without giving it to kusony if you contacted them, but even then, you'd need to pay sony for online too.

>>16328446

Too bad you feel that way anon, I love arms chair activism as much as the next guy but I'm sure you understand that nobody likes it when you forcibly shoving your ideology and principal to their face. I think GG thread about to hit post limit, how about make another one and leave the rest of us alone.

>>16328170

Yeah I'll give a shit when the gay niggers on the PS release their hostage.

>>16327842

When's EDF 5 coming to PC though?

>>16328639

When D3 feels like it

>>16328671

What's with your faggy passive-aggressive attitude throughout this thread? Are you fresh off the boat or something?

>>16327950

>ride insect

Yippee ki-yay!

Was EDF5 worth the 50 bucks? I’m thinking of importing it to have a physical copy.

OP, why are you sucha cunt?

STEEL REHN

>>16328519

>I love arms chair activism as much as the next guy

Figures. Sure you do, you wouldn't support bad business practices otherwise and your country wouldn't be as fucked too.

I have no ideology or agenda, being against shitty companies means being normal human being who wants to be treated well, however I do not blame you for this way of thinking, I bet you're from USA where the current norm is to be a faggot and a corporate materialist whore. I'm not even forcing anything onto you since it makes no sense, you're already willingly supporting shitty companies and perfectly fine with it, nothing would convince you to stop. But it's still good to shame you and I don't need "ideology" or anything to point out that you are faggot.

>>16328780

My last consoles were Dreamcast and PS2.

>>16327842

>no weapon locked class, anybody can use anything

That sounds like it's going to ruin everything great about EDF.

>>16327862

>being this much of a sonygger

go fuck yourself, creamcake

>>16330989

Do you know what idort means?

>>16330712

Not sure if this true, D3 have a wacky way to promote their game. Basically each class have 4 weapon type, some can overlap with each other but certain weapon still exclusive. Need to look at more gameplay video

>>16331017

>why a spin off doesn't play like the original

Yeah, you're the retard here, peoples don't expect SMT gameplay when they play Persona. While its vastly different from EDF5, it still looks like a good game.

>>16331025

>it still looks like a good game.

Are you dense or blind? Don't worry, you can pick both.

>why a spin off doesn't play like the original

Nice strawman, faggot.

>>16331044

Then please pray tell why do you think the game is shit?

inb4 its not like EDF5

>>16331109

Do I need to explain what EDF:IA is?

If you genuinely don't know I can do that.

>>16331116

Do you have reading comprehension problem? If not then you already know what my question is, stop beating around the bushes before I filtered you

>>16331116

It doesn't look anything like that game though. You really need a better argument than "BUT INSECT ARMAGEDDON WAS SHIT!".

>>16330981

You will always be a faggot though just like the OP, that's the thing and I didn't say that I'm hoping that shaming would fix it because it clearly wouldn't. I mean if you don't mind getting fucked by the kikes nothing would change your opinion. I'm even tempted to make own business and exploit you myself while treating you like a dirt. Maybe I'll do that when I retire.

>you just admit to be an arms chair activist, which mean you're a total fucking loser

Nice projection.

>>16331247

>If you think this even means anything then you are either new or an extremely sensitive snowflake.

It's quite clear that OP is not from this place, just check his posts.

>Basically EDF:IA was an EDF for people that couldn't stomach EDF so it featured

It is actually explained there >>16327949

They aimed for western market with this game

>>16331247

>generic general point that doesn't even apply for both IA and IR

Oh we have shitposter that never played any of EDF games. Are you the same anon as >>16328166? You can stop pretending that you're a fans, its blatantly obvious you're not

>>16331274

the irony of talking about kikes on a website owned by kikes with a connection to a freemason and owned a data company no less. Whatever happened to hotwheel I wonder

>>16328176

>>16328446

Imagine taking my posts out of the context, and believing those were plain "Sony fanboy defense force" when it was just not being a mongoloid that just parrot soy memes from outrage communities (and get mad when the meme narrative doesnt quite follow).

>>16327949

Non of the spin off were made by Sandlot though but the article really assuring that they respect the original dev. I think they even appeared together at TGS once to promote IR

>>16331352

The game looks like garbage, but you faggots really do just nitpick at anything don't you?

>>16331352

What gameplay video did you watch anon?

>>16331361

>looks like

nobody asked your opinion

>>16331373

I did.

>>16331361

There are anons here like me who played the EDF games for several hundred hours in total, and appreciate little details put into them, so I would barely call that "nitpicking"

>>16331372

>End tier

How? He's like 10 missions in when he gets that. Wing Divers can get something similar early on.

>>16331376

no

>>16331386

I'm not going to watch some subhuman streamer long enough to confirm what mission he's on, watching him go 'Wow, if this big explosion is shot at my feet I'll die' was painful enough. The guy who posted it said it was a high power explosion and the air raider, which does not exist in that game because they though a meme alien cowboy/attack on titan clone was better, can shit out explosions 10 times more destructive than that in the early game.

>>16331389

Yes.

Unless you want to argue semantics, then no, I haven't literally asked of people to vocalize their skeptical opinions.

>>16331379

Well, if they both were to agree that the gameplay is shit, then in comparison that probably would be considered a nitpick.

Christ anons this entire thread devolved into shit. When will faggots from reddit and cuck/v/ off themselves?

>>16331310

Correction: the kike owned website with much more freedom compared to big portion of the rest of the web, the site where you actually can criticize them. You would be stupid not to acknowledge such a simple thing anyway, I think anyone with a common sense knows what site they're browsing. But thankfully there are still better places in case they decide to seal the door completely. That however doesn't make you any less of a kike slave.

>>16331347

>I don't care where someone is from and I don't need to know

You was the first who called him new. I merely pointed out that his posts can tell you everything you need to know.

>However, it's still too early to claim that the game is guaranteed to be shit.

It probably isn't shit, but I wouldn't expect it to be on the level of main games, I'm betting it will be like westernized Capcom games for example. Yuke's themselves are making quite meh WWE games these days and this spin-off likely going to be quite average and boring with not a lot of content, something what modern western market aka normalfags like. It won't surprise me if people will forget about it in a few months unlike main games and that's too generous.

>>16331379

So EDF 4.1 is your first EDF game? AI is the first EDF to feature online co-op even then in 4.1, online and solo play are separated

>>16331415

It was shit from the beginning.

>>16331416

>You was the first who called him new.

Well, that's a bit different from not being from here, plus I've also partially meant new as in new to the series. And while it's fair to say, that I could analyze his posts - I think it would be better if he were to say that himself. Plus I've already made the general assumption through my initial observation.

>>16331417

What?

>>16331673

But the AI in 4.1 is just a canon fodder and dumb as hell in harder difficulty. The only thing that makes it "human" are the of the cuts dialogs about their lives.

>>16327970

I just notice they have an outfit from the starship troopers movie

>>16331716

>But the AI in 4.1 is just a canon fodder and dumb as hell in harder difficulty

It was upgraded in 5 by making them walk around obstacles and actually climb hills, alongside of Fencer NPCs using their jetpacks and boosters. Too bad the suicidal behavior of the Grim Reapers make them die fast against a swarm of bugs

If you have not seen an Air Raider in its habitat, you have nothing to see nor say. Ask the others, while I shake it.

>>16331716

It's still the dialogue that people enjoy though. That's what the anon was complaining about but I have no clue what exactly he could be talking about because this game does the same thing but more actually. For that "cinematic feel". You get more of it in cutscenes.

>>16327970

Lolifucker ruins everything.

Bump

ETA: 3 DAYS BEFORE WE CAN DROP SOME FREEDOM ON GIANT INSECTS

>>16339160

Nope, only dead bugs

bump

>>16327842

>Playing a game with Hardware DRM

>>>/4channel/

>>16343386

Its coming out on PC too, its Epic Store exclusive

I checked out a stream.

The weapons look nice and varied and so do the items.

>>16327842

>PS4

Heck, no!

ETA 2 HOURS BROS

>>16345754

I think the most concerning aspect of the game is amount of enemies on screen. I watch a stream to mission 10 and you never feel like being overwhelmed by the bugs. I understand why, but I hope they balance it with strong enemies, so far I've seen the Scorpion can block bullets so I hope other bugs have some gimmicks

>>16327905

>caring about muh industry

Do you even develop

>>16327862

Idorts stopped existing when there ceased to be consoles that didn't charge you money to have the basic capacity to play games. Made the god awful mistake of getting all of my friends to buy EDF4.1 on the PS4. We played it twice because it cost us collectively $60 to have permission to play it together after already buying the game. Two of them sold their PS4's anyway. Wish I had the foresight to know it would come to Steam.

I'll just wait for their games to release on PC, because unless they are retarded, they will. Insight estimates 1.6 million copies of EDF 4.1 sold on Steam.

>>16346370

I see your issue, but as long as the game is challenging and then I don't care that much about numbers.

Fewer enemies that have more hitpoints and are more of a threat is fine with me.

>>16346897

Just played it until mission 8, looks kinda easy so I set the difficulty to hard but got my ass handed to me on mission 3. So heres what I found

>Playing area kinda small than EDF5 but still large enough that you can maneuver around to avoid getting swarms

>PA gear are unlocked as you go along. You start off with Trooper and Jet Lifter

>You need an item to resurrect your teammates in online

>They are using Monster Hunter style game over mechanic. If you dead, you can respawn up to 4 times, after that, its game over. Being resurrect by teammates doesn't count as respawn

>If you respawn, you lose all your gems (currency)

>Using item (healing/turret/vehicle) used money, which will be deducted from your reward, so its possible for you end a mission with 0 reward.

>Weapon are unlocked as you progress, but you need to buy them to use it. So its not recommended to play on hard because you wont get any weapon equivalent of that level, but instead farm money on normal then buy more powerful weapon to clear hard mode.

So far, its keeping the EDF spirit by throwing a large numbers of enemies on screen and you will experience some frames drop (on standard PS4 at least)

>>16346992

Im confused anon are you saying you played edf iron rain till mission 8? That weapon unlocking system sounds gay as fuck. So i can play hard but it wont give me weapons i can use?

>>16347772

I believe rewards scale with your difficulty and how well you do in missions. Meaning you can get equipment faster.

>>16347805

You can "unlocked" it but you can't use it, you have to buy it first. Weapon reward are scaled to the difficulty but powerful weapons are expensive, so its not worth it doing hard mode with shitty weapon. Good news is, PA gear upgrade are unified, so no need to waste money upgrading each gear.

>>16347772

There's a pros and cons of the reward system. Mainline EDF pretty much a gatcha system where weapon drop are based on luck/droprate. In Iron rain you can focus on getting the weapon you want and you can farm any mission as long as you as you get money.

>>16348316

Thanks for clarifying anon. Hoping to see some more insights about the game from others before dropping money on the game. I love edf but it just felt different enough from what im used to that id rather be cautious.

Isekai? more like needs to die.

>>16348465

Here's a nice vid explaining all the classes. The game looks fun but I'll wait for a PC version. Besides I'm swamped with games.

>>16348465

well, after a few hours, I'm starting to hate the reward system. Probably because you can determine how much you need to grind, with gatcha, you don't really know so you just grind in hope to get that weapons ( and you always get a weapons regardless if its the one you need). With Iron Rain you know how much you have to grind and you tend to give up after you realize it. To give you a perspective, Weapons are graded from E to A, E rank weapons cost 2K-9k currency + 10-20 gems, A rank cost a whooping 500K coins + 3K gems of various type. You only got around 30K coins at best around mission 50+, and thats on hard. So you'll be spending most of your playtime using shitty E-D rank weapons

>>16348581

>You only got around 30K coins at best around mission 50+, and thats on hard.

*get a reward

fucking auto correct

>>16348581

Ever managed to complete a mission on hardest difficulty?

I know that easy = 100% reward

Normal = 150% reward

Hard = 300% reward

Hardest = ?% reward

Disaster = ?% reward

I need the hardest info so that I can try to fill it out.

>>16348633

>complete a mission on hardest difficulty?

Well, not sure if killing giant insect with a BB gun is such a great idea. And I don't want to be a dead weight in online because dying means game over now, you can't just sit back and let peoples carry you anymore

>>16348633

It's 450% ,and ,600%

>>16348581

EDF5 also improved the gatcha system somewhat by making it so you could improve the stats of your weapons if you kept getting the same ones. I think they had lower base stats than 4.1 to compensate, but higher once you maxed them out. Plus all the other quality of life things they did in 5 that made the gatcha less painful to deal with.

>>16348792

EDF5 is probably one of the rare occasions that dev adds QoL changes based on players complaints that is it so hilariously direct, it feel like a joke.

>"You like dash cancelling? Here, dash is now part of fencer mechanics even if it was supposed to be a slower class"

>"Ranger to slow and collecting crates is no fun, I give you run ability and crates absorbing power, oh and summons vehicle too because everyone thinks Ranger is lame"

>"Air Raider suck in solo play? Well here, infinite air strikes"

Now every class is powerful yet the game still challenging.

>>16348893

>And you can play that class just like an Armored Core game

Well, at least it something to do something while waiting for From to make another fucking game, and then the inevitable disappointment when they decide to scrap the series entirely and make Mecha Souls or something instead.

>>16348893

>aim? what do you mean aim?

>I just fly around and spam 100mm hand canon

>>16348893

Holy shit that's cool.

>>16348656

Thanks.

>>16346992

>Using item (healing/turret/vehicle) used money, which will be deducted from your reward, so its possible for you end a mission with 0 reward.

>vehicle

>used money

nani?

>>16349323

Vehicle, healing item, turret, decoy,everything in your item slot used currency and will be deducted from your mission reward. Yes, this game punished you from using support item which is retarded.

>>16349357

fug

>>16349334

Is there any reason to use the other classes? Fencer in in EDF5 is too OP that its fucking ridiculous.

>can fly

>super sanic speed

>high damage resistant

>can carry 4 weapons

Why Ranger even exist in EDF5? theres basically no merits to use it other than being a dead weight

so how does it compare to 5?

>>16349375

>Why Ranger even exist in EDF5?

its fun

>>16349375

Same reason ranger exists in EDF 4.1 despite having hand me down weapons from each class

At least they have vehicles now.

Rangers should be able to call in reinforcements.

>>16349375

Try playing a grounded Wing Diver with a massive energy cell. You won't fly, but no class will be able to match your firepower. A swarm of green ants can be rendered useless with a homing weapons.

>>16349357

Vehicles and healing items are massively overpowered to compensate for the price you pay.

I can easily steamroll difficult missions by summoning a vehicle. Healing items are cheap as long as you only use the heal yourself over time one.

Mines, turrets and grenades are overpriced though.

>>16349535

yeah but you are trading mobility for power, Fencer doesn't need to compensate for anything, it got massive fire power, speed, and defense.

>>16349944

can you make her use different panties?

>>16350807

No, you can only have them forcibly removed by insects.

>>16349944

>First pic

How the hell did she put her camel toe on backwards.

>>16350816

It's just a wrinkle.

So hows it been anons? I know it hasnt been long but are you enjoying it? Do you hate it? Are there any cool things it does better than previous titles? Any dumb ass things it does?

>>16350996

Biggest dumbest thing it does is the fucking unlock system and the lives system. It's garbage. Aside from that it's alright

>>16351053

Can you explain lives? I saw some anon earlier mentioned its 4 deaths free before game over. Does game over mean just the level or what? Some more insight would be nice. Still on the fence for purchasing

>>16351072

you can solo revive up to 4 or 5 times and your teammates can revive you for free, or something life that.

>>16351072

It's the Monster Hunter revive system, basically. When you die, you can wait out the respawn timer and spawn with full health, or spawn immediately with reduced max health, but it removes one from a shared pool of lives the entire team has. However, there are items you and your team can use to revive people without using a life. If you run out of lives and a player's respawn timer runs out, the mission fails. The trade-off for the items, aside from you only being able to use them a finite amount per missions, is that using them costs money which is deducted from your mission rewards.

>>16350996

The dumbest thing by far is that the player gets punished for using items. If you throw a grenade or call in a tank, you lose money. I just don't know what the hell they were smoking when they came up with a system like that.

The best thing is that any class can use any weapon. And the new swords handle way better than the old Vibro Hammer and shit like that.

All in all, it's a 7/10 game so far. I despised it at first because it takes a little while for the action to pick up to the point where it really feels like EDF.

>>16350996

About 20 missions in and am enjoying it a lot. The fencer frame is probably my favorite so far as it plays like a miniature scopedog with a super shield. The Prowl Rider is neat as heck, but I am not good enough with a controller to grapple around quickly, so I'll wait until the PC release to play it. It is quite amusing to see it though since I've seen people suggest playing as a bug since back when 2025 was released.

The most bullshit thing in the game is the little lost drones hidden around on maps. There's 114 of em and I've only found about 5. I spent at least an hour searching the first map for one when there isn't even any indication that it has a drone. Meanwhile there's maps I stopped searching on after finding a drone, but there could possibly be more than one on it. I don't hate having hidden collectibles, and actually think its a neat thing mainline EDF should have, but its still some goddamn bullshit trying to find em.

The revive mechanics don't exist if you play singleplayer. You just die and retry as you would expect. The consumable items only cost credits, not the more valuable crystals, and only upon successfully completing a mission. If you use all your items and die, it costs nothing. I know everyone is complaining about the costs, but it really isn't that bad once you make a bit of progress. Just pick and use what you feel you need and you'll be alright. There are also equipment crates you can find in the field that give you items to use for free, so make use of em when you can.

Overall the game feels like a mechanical sequel to Gun Gun Pixies and Bullet Girls Phantasia, but with an EDF theme. Expect the same low budget clunkyness as you would with those games.

I'm betting character customization, collectibles, prowl rider, cross-class consumables/abilities, and some weapons will make it into EDF 6.

>>16351675

The vehicles are way better than the ones you get in E.D.F. 5 though.

In E.D.F. 5 you either get vehicles with low firepower or mechs with low movement speed.

The vehicles in this one has better movement and firepower than the vehicles in E.D.F. 5.

>>16351675

>They replaced the national socialist system with a jewed system

Typical for a western release.

>>16352096

>They replaced the national socialist system

try again retard

>>16348907

>mecha souls

My inner being will hurt when this happens

>>16352015

>In E.D.F. 5 you either get vehicles with low firepower or mechs with low movement speed.

Yes it's called a 'trade-off' which is a part of 'tactics' when you operate within a 'team' or going solo,you trade firepower for high mobility or vice versa top suit your playstyle.

This game has none of the above,the classes are all a little more than cosmetic and they even managed to make the way that pick-ups look and work even more generic.

How the hell do you even fuck that one up?THEY WERE LITERALLY BOXES AND IT WORKED AND LOOKED BETTER THAN THESE GAY CRYSTALS

>>16352744

What was the trade-off of the flame nyx?

>>16352744

That's retarded, taking forever to move across the map is nothing more than exercise in patience.

Having to spend money is a way better trade-off than choosing between shit firepower or shit mobility. How much can you spend while maximizing your income and success chances is a much more interesting tactical decision.

>>16352744

What is the trade off for Fencer?

>>16355344

The main issue with fencer that he can't move while firing which can fuck him over when fighting things like spiders. His movement is also is also constrained by all the spider webs that cover the place on those missions.

I am starting to dislike Iron Rain. The missions are starting to feel more annoying than fun.

>>16355440

Yeah, it is intended for close combat, but that doesn't make it any less of an absolute god compared to any other vehicle though. The only time I ever had a problem with its range was during the mothership battle, and I got around that by jumping on top of an electrical tower. Hardly a trade-off when you completely circumvent it with high speed, mobility, armor, and firepower. The spread of the shotguns is pointless when you can instantly put anything within their range, and the only things at the edge of it are huge targets like dropships that still take most of the hits because of their size. A lack of challenge is a more significant trade-off than its range. It is not a finely tuned and balanced machine for advanced team tactics and thoughtful gameplay. It is a one-man bug-burning machine that turns most of the game into a farce. Still fun as heck though.

>>16355440

>Fencer takes a lot to practice so dont expect to do crazy stuff right of the bat like the related webms I've posted.

Even if you takes into consideration of other classes with end game gears, Fencer still dominate them all from every aspects

Ugh, I am really starting to dislike Iron Rain.

Ants keep knocking you over and you are not invincible when you are on the ground. It is easy to keep getting continuesly knocked down.

Scorpions also charge up to you and knock you down with a tail swipe.

Your animation and attacks get interrupted a lot when you get hit. It is terrible when you are trying to use a weapon with a firing delay.

Weapon upgrades are expensive and usually not even an upgrade, mostly just overspecilized side grades which are useless except for very specific situations.

I think that I actually liked Insect Armageddon more than this game.

>>16356792

git gud

>>16357976

The game is crap. Not hard, just crap.

E.D.F. 5 is actually fun and challenging.

>>16356792

Are you using your overdrive and equipment? There are items and weapons which are designed to protect you from getting swarmed and stunned by melee. Any shooter player worth their salt will tell you that knowing when to use your bombs, or in this case overdrive, is more important and makes you a better player than trying to go without using them at all.

As for the weapons, that is exactly what you would get in any other EDF game if you removed the stat scaling, which this game doesn't have. Weapons with mechanical differences are far more important for allowing you to deal with situations than simply trying to brute force it with a stronger weapon.

You can always try playing on a lower difficulty as well. You may get mocked for it here, but it is your game, your time, your experience. If you aren't having fun with it then do what you can to make it fun. If that doesn't work, then consider that the game just isn't for you and go play something you enjoy more.

>>16358358

I don't have much difficulty completing the missions and always use overdrive when I need to. I am just not enjoying the game.

Maybe it is just not my kind of game.

I disagree about the weapons. Even if you removed the stat scaling, the weapons in E.D.F.5 improve in usability. In Iron Rain the weapons just become overspecilized.

>>16358716

Dude, you're just complaining that you weren't invincible. Nothing to say about that other than git gud, ants keep keep knocking you down? how about not getting swarms in the first place.

>>16358998

At least you already have a ps4. I refuse to get one. I'm stuck with 4.1.

>>16359049

Get a cheap one from Craigslist, that's what I did.

These space mantis things are pissing me the fuck off.

>>16352717

Iron rain has enemies with a higher polycount, that means fewer enemies on the screen with the PS4's gimped hardware and it means making them stronger to hide the fact there aren't nearly as many monsters loaded in as in EDF 4.1 or 5. That's where all the difficulty comes in and all the gripes about it.

>>16358358

>lower the difficulty

>in a game that punishes you for doing that

>in a game he's already stated he's not having fun with

<just make the grind take longer in a game that you already feel is a chore to play!

Well I finished all the mission on hard and here's my review. I played EDF 2025, 4.1 and 5, never played the first 3 EDF and Insects Armageddon. So here's my thoughts, its a bit of a roller coaster of feeling, when I first play Iron Rain from mission 1 to 10, its was really good despite the differences, it still feel like a solid EDF game. But starting from mission 10 to 20, you starting to hate the reward system, mainly because no matter how much you progress in the game, your character never get stronger, unless you buy a new weapon. But the good weapon are expensive as fuck, you could grind for hours only to get 1 weapon. But I power through and join a farm party until I got enough money to upgrade my character. However by the time I got to mission 30, something click on my head, I was approaching this game in a wrong way, this game isn't just about killing giant insect, but about resources management and it even ties in with the lore and story of Iron Rain, the earth is fucked and resources are limited, the even the human fight each other for gems. With that in mind, I play this game like I would in a strategy or RPG games, "you have these resources, what are you gonna spend it on?". In EDF5, I don't really care much about the weapon as long as it powerful and feels good. In Iron Rain, I read stats and compares it to other weapons to makes sure all the money and gems are spend in the most optimal way.

EDF IR also by far the hardest EDF games I've ever played, the enemies are fucking brutal even on normal. This one of those game where it got that 1 enemy that you hate so much, when it appear on screen, you would go "not this fucker again" fucking Scorpion. Also to add, despite the grinding nature of IR, there's no p2w DLC, only cosmetic and season pass for future mission pack I assume.

Overall, if you want to play this, don't expect a traditional EDF games, it got those EDF elements but it vastly different. A few tips, farm mission 22 on hardest, very easy and it give 40K money. Don't be fooled by weapon's rank, always read the stats, some A rank are not worth the price tag.

I have been stuck on mission 9 for EIGHT HOURS. How the FUCK am i supposed to prevent myself from getting fucking stunlocked by those god forsaken mantis monsters?

Holy fuck this game is hard, is there anyway I can improve my performance? What gamer fuel do you guys use to pwn the noobs with?

>>16360156

>>16360243

The best thing to is grind previous levels and upgrade your gear with credits.

Holy shit the grind in this game is for real and not fun. How did Yukes fuck this up so badly? Making you grind for materials for weapons you already unlocked to unlock them AGAIN. Fuck off

Are you meant to be so fucking squishy in this game? I've played around 15 missions with a friend in split screen and several times we have just been fucking deleted. Those big lava pricks that transform from spikes are particularly egregious, not only do they tank endless amounts of damage, they can also decide you don't exist with their jumping slash or their rock projectile thing. Insane damage. I fucking hate fighting those things. It really feels like my enemies are doing tons of damage and I am tickling them.

I've mained Pale Wing/ Diver in every EDF game since 2 and the Jet Lifter feels really fucking weird. It's really hard to change direction in the air, and it feels like the game is pushing me towards the direction of my camera whether I want it to or not. I suppose that just takes getting used to but even still it feels wonky.

Also, items seem overpriced as fuck. I am constantly trying not to use them. A healing item feels super expensive at 500 credits, so why would I ever even consider using a vehicle that costs 3500 credits in a mission that only gives me 8000 as a reward? I really feel like mission payout needs to be buffed or item costs need to be reduced.

That's a lot of bitching but overall so far I am enjoying the game. I like the overall presentation, it's pretty slick and the intro and outro cutscenes for the missions don't overstay their welcome. The character customisation is pretty good and I like that there seems to be a lot more cosmetics appearing as I go. We are beginning to get some more interesting weapons like the laser gun that reloads itself and becomes more powerful as you fire it. I'm also enjoying playing as the heavy class now that it has unlocked since I don't feel like I'm made of paper and slashing shit to bits with 2 swords is rad as hell. Looking forward to trying the grapple class when it unlocks. There's just a bunch of weird design decisions that I either can't understand at the moment or am not fond of.

Glad this thread has remained up so i could get an idea of it. Really seems like i wouldnt enjoy it for 60 bucks based off of what im reading. Much prefer the typical edf gameplay. Out of curiosity, are you able to buy these gems to upgrade weapons with real cash?

>>16361811

The amount of money you make greatly increases as you play. I'm a little under 25 missions in and am making 30,000 after taxes.

>>16361822

Some come with the deluxe edition, but other than that, no.

>>16361822

Some of the ideas this game fronts are genuinely fun, too bad it's more or less a arena shooter. For example you get to fight at the EDF HQ, which turns out to be a warship off the coast, which then turns into a flying gunship.

But overall, the westernized dialogue makes me want to throw up almost every mission. They've missed the feel of EDF almost entirely and the only real similarity is that you get to shoot bugs. And only sometimes, since the story is basically revolving around you trying to kill a giant kaiju that propagates smaller versions of itself.

>>16362368

Oh right, a snippet of dialogue I saw when watching a stream was the characters bitching about human pollution causing global warming punctuated with a

>"Makes you wonder if we're really better for Earth than the aliens are."

>"Hah. I can't even laugh at that."

>>16361811

Why are you using a 500 credit healing item that only heals 400 health when you can use a 200 credit item that 1000 health over time?

>>16362530

Its definitely a bad case of artificial difficulty. Enemies are sponges, you use meter to get up from being knocked down and you only get three get-ups until you overheat which will result in you getting surrounded and getting stunlocked. If it was balanced properly, itd actually be semidecent. There are good things at play here, and id love to see them integrated into mainline EDF, but its shortcomings are glaring and it makes the game a slog.

>>16362603

Sounds like Insect Armageddon again… which did end up having some of its elements carry over to 4 now that I think about it.

>>16362603

Enemies are sponges? When I am sitting here cleaving through hordes of big dudes like they are nothing? Try using different weapons. Beam cannons and miniguns are great. Hell, they make the game way too easy with how fast they kill things.

>>16362603

Honestly, I'd be able to forgive this game for all its shortcomings if the dialogue and the characters weren't absolute trash. They basically turn the EDF into corporate commandos to boot.

>>16362637

>Try using different weapons

>grind levels over and over to unlock weapons you already unlocked but can't use til you have to get the proper materials and cash

fuck off, that's shit and you can't pretend it isn't

>>16363152

What are you talking about? You get more than enough money and resources from just playing the game to buy decent gear, and a lot of good stuff is cheap D rank weapons. I also can't believe someone is actually complaining about having to farm in an EDF thread of all things. I guess sitting under a dropship for a day trying to get that one weapon and then upgrade it or get enough armor for inferno is okay, but playing a mission once or twice to buy a weapon is bullshit. This is entirely your problem, not the games. Bump up the difficulty and make some progress. You get more money and resources than you can use eventually.

>>16363173

I have to double farm you faggot. Materials and money to get something useful just to make the game stop feeling like shit to play. You're a retard

>>16363212

You never have to farm for weapons because they are fixed unlocks. I'm not too fond of the currency system myself but you're a dumbfuck.

>>16363332

He never once mentioned farming for weapons. Learn to read. And hes one hundred percent correct on the double grind part. Shit is too fucking expensive in this game. Its great that theres good low rank weapons, like you said, but shouldnt have to pay several hundred thousand in credits, and several hundred in each gem color to use a new gun.

>>16363354

At level 35 on hard I get 40,000 credits. Two missions and I can buy a C rank weapon, 4-5 to buy a B rank weapon. I pick up all the gems before the mission ends and can get 500-1000 per mission. This is some "I have to play inferno to get inferno weapons" bullshit complaining going on.

>>16363450

The complaining stems from how stupidly annoying it is to even get that far, the lengths you need to go through to even get past the first ten missions.

>why arent you good at using starter weapons on the hardest diffiulculty at the beginning of the game

Thats you right now.

>>16363463

Well, why aren't you? The difficulty levels and weapon stats don't work like they do in other EDF games. Starter weapons are just as viable on harder difficulties late game as they are at the start. It's closer to Doom than it is EDF. I did it, and I am a retarded faggot. Why can't you guys?

I am saying that things get better. The entire game isn't spent farming 500 credits a mission to buy some 500,000 credit gun, nor should you even try that. At the start of the game you should buy a weapon within your price range that you like. Once you progress past the start of the game things will ramp up and allow you to buy more specialized gear. There aren't really upgrades in this so getting high rank weapons isn't as important as just finding a weapon that works for you. There are plenty of good weapons within your price range at the start without needing to farm a map a thousand times.

>>16363463

The first 10 mission can be done with starter the weapon, most of the complaints even from me at first was that you couldn't get OP weapon to do hard mode very early in the game, but I realize that is the gate to make players to familiarize with the game. You can't skip to hard mode because you can get your shit kicked in. Do normal mode and buy D or C rank weapon, much cheaper and can carry you through normal fine. Don't expect it to be a breeze like EDF5, the enemies in this game are way harder. Even without excessive grinding, I can get about 500K credits just by doing the mission normally.

>>16362603

>Its definitely a bad case of artificial difficulty. Enemies are sponges

Have played any of the previous EDF games?

>>16362368

Is there a song in the game at all like 4.1 tier?

It seems like, to me, most of the criticism for the game comes from people expecting something exactly like a mainline EDF title, which I don't get. It's not titled EDF 5 version B. It's very obviously a spin-off that's doing things different. The difficulty doesn't work like mainline EDF. The weapons don't work like it. The combat doesn't work like it. You're not even supposed to be blindly firing at everything and destroying the entire map. Yet a lot of people are starting the game, expecting it to be just like the EDF they know, then complaining when it isn't. I know I don't have a lot of room to talk, given I've only watched gameplay footage and haven't actually played it, myself, but nothing I've seen looks nearly as bad as people are making it out to be. You don't play Hyrule Warriors, expecting a traditional TLoZ game, and you shouldn't go into this game expecting a traditional EDF.

>>16362370

You're being very disingenuous with that post. No one bitches about pollution. Someone notes that atmospheric pollution levels have dropped a fair amount since the alien invasion, then someone makes your first quote as a joke. The second quote is about not being able to laugh at the joke due to how terrible the invasion has been on everybody, you know, with the massive loss of human life and having to spend most days taking on giant bugs and robots.

>>16363998

No. I don't remember hearing any songs. Even.

>>16364813

>make new save

but why? you can change your appearance anytime and theres like 10 loadout slots. I have custom characters for each PA gears.

>>16365004

So that I can save my progress separately and not move on without him. Have you ever had friends, anon?

>>16365956

>So that I can save my progress separately and not move on without him.

but why? its not like you can't replay the mission again

How the fuck are you supposed to kill Sideros? What a bullshit enemy. Mission 9 is blowing my asshole open over and over as soon as the crowd of them show up. You don't get the pool of lives in single player mode and even popping overdrive has not been enough.

>>16368969

Rocket Launcher + Jet Lifter + Easy is how i got past it. Try a sniper for high single shot damage. After that, pray its enough.

Mission 13 is when you get Heavy Striker (Fencer equivalent). I mention this because itll help you do previous levels in Hard, which in turn will help unlock new weapons. Keep an eye out for the Fermi rocket launcher and a laser rifle called Alice. Theyll be your bread and butter for awhile.

>>16364813

if you look closely you'll notice it changes the size or her ass too anon.

>>16368969

I'm not sure on what difficulty and mission you get it for but any of the laser cannons will rip everything apart in on any difficulty in seconds, that could definitely work. They have down right retarded damage output even before max power.

>>16368969

Rail Gun nigga, even the Rank D one does 1000+ damage. A couple of shot and it's dead

>>16369094

>>16369094

my go to weapons for normal is assault rifle, rail gun, homing missile for pesky airborne enemies and rocket launcher for cave mission. That rank D rail gun is enough for everything though, its cheap, very powerful for a rank D weapon, long range, highly accurate and fast reload time. The only down side is that you can't move while firing and it takes a few second to charge

Healing hurts zombies

Neat.

>>16372680

3500 is peanuts in later mission

>>16372680

That person is trying to use a relatively high level item on a low level/difficulty mission. All of the cost bitching is from people a few missions into the game who don't understand how the cost balance works yet.

You think I'm gonna let this thread die? This is EDF motherfucker

>>16349375

The same question is asked in 4.1 until drone swarms in high difficulties

Burst movement is inferior to spammable iframe rolls when enemies are bullet hell bullshit laser spamming you from the sky, though it at least looks like fencer might have some good anti-drone weapons compared to 4.1

Ranger was the undisputed sniper king in 4.1 in hard or higher with dual lysanders, fencer was actually the shittiest sniper despite the cannons and was relatively weak against bees and drones, laser drones especially. In exchange, shield FUCKS all ants and spiders and can endure dragons better than any other class.

>>16376158

in 4.1, fencer is still limited if you want to do dash cancelling. You have to carry a melee/shield/javelin combo, in EDF5, dash is part of your ability leaving 4 weapons slots empty to carry whatever you want to counter whatever enemies the mission throw at you.

OH MY FUCKING GOD

How the fuck do you clear the last mission solo? Its so fucking infuriating. I know what to do but they keep throwing these unlimited ants and larvae just to pissed you off. The first phase is you going around the fucking map destroying that green orbs, good luck because you only got 10 second window while swarm of larvae knocking you down. The the worst part is the second phase where the boss got a new 1 hit KO laser attack and fucking ants and Scorpion keep coming from every direction. You spend most of your time killing insects and if you don't pay attention to Raznig, he gonna 1 shotted you with super lazer. This is on normal by the way

>>16380592

I just used the B rank sniper rifle that comes with 1 shot on fencer. Takes out like 70% of its health on hard, completely skipping the phases where the other orbs pop out. Also not being bad and blocking the super laser.

>>16380592

Playing as Striker on Hard, I just used sniper SH-Allegro and laser cannon SN-Iguazu 2. Not the best weapons by any measure, but they worked. I sat in a corner opposite of the crashed ship and just shot stuff until it died.

Wish there was a way to determine what dropped. I dont like how i cant tell what gear ill get at the end of a level or frome a drone (if at all). At least with mainline EDF you pick up a weapon box and new youd get something if you finished.

>>16389735

According to the jap wiki, drone rewards are fixed and dependent on the number of drones collected. You get one weapon every 2 drones up to 39, then one every 3 to 51, then one every drone to 55. There's one drone every level, and 3 in the practice area. Difficulty doesn't matter.

Link to video that has all drone locations, for those interested. Sorry its jewtube, im phoneposting and havent used invidious before.

https://youtu.be/niojTGfQmbQ

>>16389848

Good to know. Waitin to get a decent railgun.

>>16389879

Invidious is www.youtube.com replaced with invidio.us with the regular URL.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID -> invidio.us/watch?v=ID

Does anyone have the soundtrack to share?

Once I gained access to the cool shit like the railguns and learned how to use the swords I must say my opinion on this game really turned around. I feel way less squishy now that I learned to play the game and also learned not to fear the healing items, and the prowl rider is boss as fuck. I'm really feeling it now. I think I had to approach it differently than games in the actual series.

>>16390993

Looks fine to me. With the jetpack adding forces what you have is centripetal motion.

>>16390993

I have some bad news. You might be retarded.

>>16405985

Glad you can finally enjoy the game. Once people stop expecting it to be EDF6, everything starts to fall into place and make sense, the game opens up, and fun can be had. Rider seems like it would be the strongest gear in the hands of a skilled player, what with that virtually free mobility and many devastating short range weapons. I'd really love to play it more, but I am a retarded faggot, so I stick with EZ-Modo Striker. I mentioned before that a mouse would do wonders for Rider as you can quickly and accurately whip its winches around. Lets hope for a PC release!

>>16408372

It isn't lowering your expectations, its changing them. IR is EDF6 as much as Renegade is Command and Conquer 2, or Bogus Detour is Serious Sam 4. It's a spin-off, not a sequel. You wouldn't expect EDF6 out of Tactics or Shooter, this is no different.

>>16410539

Now you're being disingenous. Most of those examples, with the exception of the Fallouts and REs, are games trying to be nearly the same thing with only slight differences and/or are direct numbered sequels. The only thing Iron Rain is trying to have in common with the main EDF series is being a TPS where you shoot giant aliens. Otherwise, IR is going for a completely different style of game. If mainline EDF is Starship Troopers, the movie, then IR is trying to be Starship Troopers, the original novel. It's not trying to be EDF 6, or even EDF5.5. Complaining that it's different from the main EDF series is like complaining Donkey Kong Country is different from Donkey Kong, the arcade game.

>>16410539

I may have given bad examples, I won't deny that, but it being a spin-off is an absolute fact. It is made by a different team with different target audience, direction, goals, and mechanics. There are numerous interviews and streams with Okajima where he states why they are making Iron Rain, and that it absolutely is not a replacement for the mainline series. If you even just play the game you will learn that it is not a mainline EDF game and you cannot directly transfer over what you know and expect. It is a completely different game with an EDF theme.

pc ver where?

>>16411628

Email D3P and ask for it. They have clearly stated that they will do things like a physical release and PC port if there is enough demand.

>>16365956

>Have you ever had friends, anon?

Friends are a scam.