/v/ - Video Games

What's this game again?

it's pretty fun, I like it

>>16318545

some type of medieval survival game. its torrenting now so cant really say how it is.

>>16318565

It's less a survival game and more of an open world RPG from what I've seen and heard.

Havent played it

>>16318494

Hoping they fix the loot disappearing glitch soon. Also what's the best build? I just started using a 1h sword and shield.

It's jank wrpg that has nothing to do with meme souls.

>>16318494

where are the qt girls, OP?

>>16318494

Played for a very short time, so not much beyond holy fuck this game is ugly.

>>16318753

Yeah it does the job if you want jank.

>>16318753

It can't be that bad, it's probably like Morrowind multiplayer. Thing is, there really aren't a lot of multiplayer RPGs. MMORPGs, sure, but they totally lack the depth of singleplayer RPGs. Even a mediocre multiplayer RPG would be a godsend, because the subgenre is so rare.

>>16318762

>>16318759

Nice. I might pick it up soon then.

We really do need a decent co-op action RPG. Dragon's Dogma would have been so much better with co-op.

It has that indie feel coming through in everything.

It wants to be immersive but then gives you dialogue choices between sucking the NPC off with how much you like them, and being a complete fucking douchebag. There's "supply caches" (see: chest sitting on top of a brick wall) or whatever scattered all over the overworld, which are inexplicably unraided despite the map being cluttered with bandits everywhere.

Combat is too hard but I don't really play this kind of games, and maybe this is the wrong game to start because you die so quickly. I don't really want the game to be "easier" but I wish there was a better difficulty curve at the beginning to ease you into it.

>>16318769

>action RPG

It's not as action based as other similar games from what I can tell. You're very vulnerable so you have to approach each fight carefully.

It is really good. Don't judge its appearance by the tutorial - it gives an awful first impression. I'm hesitant to say it looks "great" out in the open, but I really enjoy the colors they use combined with their overall aesthetic (post-tutorial). It could definitely use some QoL improvements but the gameplay and exploring are really enjoyable for me. It is fun thinking out encounters and preparing for battles (traps, magic circles, whether to drop backpack, weapon choice, etc), although maybe I wouldn't need to do that if I didn't suck at the combat. If you have attention issues, you probably won't enjoy this game. If you can't appreciate the journey, you are probably going to get bored with all the tedium. It is actually a lot more casual and comfy than I thought it would be, because there isn't a huge punishment when you die. I like it quite a bit, although it is definitely not for everybody (and that is precisely its appeal).

>another vidya thread bumplocked

Why?

>>16319558

it's not bumplocked

>>16318494

How's the magic in the game? The thought of a game where you're not restricted to a story and being free to do whatever you want sounds great. Also is it like kenshi in the way of how you're free?

>>16319616

gee thanks mister

>>16318775

>>16318789

hmm, maybe I'll try, sounds like it's not perfect, but could have potential for fun

>>16319733

That word stinks of normalfag and I haven't seen it used on /v/, I'm not falling for your ruse.

>>16319733

>>16319722

>>16319745

>>16319749

>>16319755

I've been here all summer and I've never seen it either.

oh ya, i forgot to add. characters are fucking ugly. i hope in the future modders can work that out.

>>16319928

>arbitrary resource management

>enemies don’t flinch

>dying punishes you with tedium instead of failure

This sounds like a recipe for a bad game.

>>16318494

It's complete ass. The whole reason fast travel sucks ass in game is that it pulls you out of the adventure. You don't get to see the dungeons and the encounters and the world. But the world in this game is barren. I'm 10 hours in, and I spend 10-15 minutes walking with my friend to a location, a few minutes clearing it, 8-13 minutes walking to a new location (you have to chain them together to save travel time), a few minutes clearing it, and then a good 15-20 minutes returning to a city.

There are minimal encounters as you walk. Sometimes you do encounter things, but you rip their assholes apart because the game isn't very hard, despite what everyone complains about. Things seem to take forever to respawn in the overworld, so it just remains empty. The people who whine that they can't fight anything must really suck. Just hold up your shield until they're done attacking and then hit them once or twice. Repeat until whatever you're fighting dies. If you're playing with a friend, solitary strong monsters are just as easy, because their AI cannot comprehend being flanked. Don't bank on dodging over blocking, because dodging doesn't seem to provide any sort of i-frames, so it's usually too late to dodge once you see the attack coming. There is no timed blocks - just hold your shield up like a mongoloid. I have never died after 20 hours of gameplay. I have revived my friend multiple times because he's turbo aggressive on the pretense that "the faster it's over, the less mistakes you make".

Survival mechanics have the depth of un-modded New Vegas. After a few days, you'll have a dozen meals on you, and water isn't a challenge in any capacity, since you can always make water drinkable, and you can have multiple waterskins. You randomly need 'travel rations' to travel between regions, for some reason, despite the fact that you can carry meals while traveling, and it takes multiple travels for this food to even rot. If you have raw meat about to rot, just cook it and it lasts multiple days. Cook as many complex meals as you want, because you can get endless free salt by desalinating water - just fill your waterskins with water and then take it to a fire.

If you want to play it and want to play with magic - go to Conflux Mountain as soon as possible. There are some troglodytes (non-challenge) and some mantis creatures (magic explosion that will ace you through a shield but is incredibly easy to dodge with a long wind-up), but there is an NPC there that will help you clear the floor, anyway. You just have to pass through the door by pulling the lever in the next room, and then you can travel down and unlock magic. You have to sacrifice 5 max life and 5 max stamina for each 20 magic you want to gain. Magic will help you trivialize encounters, since there are some skeleton enemies we encountered that resisted physical damage, but melted when hit with weapons coated with elemental rags.

>>16319722

cuckchannel

Started getting used here after kingdome come.

>>16320036

>I have never died after 20 hours of gameplay.

I meant 10.

>>16319971

>>enemies don’t flinch

>This sounds like a recipe for a bad game.

It actually does ruin the combat. Two-handed weapns, halberds, and spears are trash, because when you hit enemies with your giant claymore, they just casually bite or stab you as you hit them repeatedly. Combat is horrible and is dominated by shields simply due to this fact.

>>16320036

Played a few hours and I feel the same. I hate how high contrasted everything is. Reminds me of some shit ps4 game trying to look better than it is.

Honestly had more fun playing Skyrim with a bunch of survival mods. I'll keep playing and try co-op to see if it gets better.

>>16320048

>I have never died after 20 hours of gameplay.

did you do anything other than walk the surface? i've died like two dozen times already, i just got killed by a fucking dinosaur in the caves under the mountain. are we playing the same game here?

>>16319722

Another word for westrash.

>>16319755

>>16319749

You're not fooling anyone.

>>16318494

Would be 50x better if the zones weren't split by loading screens, in fact everything in this game has a loading screen, how hard is it to make the house interiors part of the city?

The way mobs spawn is fucking stupid, they respawn the instant you turn around until you kill X amount in the zone, then the entire zone becomes barren until you stay out of it for a whole week, zero immersion here.

The challenge and the feeling of progression are neat, but only until you buy all skills and find a legendary weapon.

I would say it is a 6/10 right now, Sekiro and the new Grim Dawn expansion are better investments

>>16318581

Im playing Archer+Spellblade+Mercenary, using Horror Bow and Merchant Armor, inflict poison+bleed and run like sonic watching them die slowly except ghosts and golems, those i have to fight properly

>>16320048

>>16319971

Enemies do flinch if your weapon has enough Impact

>>16320355

so its just that my weapon is crap. gotcha

can someone tell me how the fuck do i refuel my lantern? i have Thick Oil and an empty lantern, but i cant find any option to put the oil in there

>>16318494

think for yourself instead of coming here for opinions from anonymous people.

>>16320233

>did you do anything other than walk the surface?

Did you read any of the post where I talk about traversing zones and going under mountains? If you're dying, you're not holding your shield up enough. If your shield is so bad that you cannot block attacks, you can get a tower shield from patrols around the fortress in the south of the starting area, or you can get steel shields from bandits in the marsh. Most elemental attacks will still get you through the shield, but they always have anywhere from 1-2 second windup, so you can dodge it, even while wearing a cumbersome backpack. But the vast majority of encounters can be trivialized by holding your block button. They can be trivialized even more in co-op by having both players hold the block button, pincer it, and take turns swiping at it while the AI spins in circles incapable of basic tactics. I'm not even good at these kinds of games, it's just incredibly easy to fight anything when you have a shield. Dinosaurs are common enemies in the marsh so you're going to have to learn how to block.

And drink water and eat food that generates stamina. Food and water is so stupidly plentiful that you have no reason to be fighting tough enemies in sub-par condition. It's a big help for maintaining your stamina when you're blocking a lot of enemies. I have had to hobble around a room to catch my breath, and my friend always dies when I do because he's an asshole who grinds his face against enemies as if he's trying to prove a point. I don't have all of the recipes, but so far, egg-based recipes seem to be pretty good with stamina regeneration.

>>16320355

Yeah, if your weapon has enough impact, you can flinch an enemy after you trade blows enough to get it to half stability. That's pretty irrelevant for any non-basic encounter, since you'd still have to trade some blows with enemies when you're not using a shield. After getting the brutal club, I had no problem flinching basic bandits, hyenas, or the smaller dinosaurs in one or two hits. But, I mean, you can just sorta kill those, because they're simple fodder. I use a one-handed mace, so I guess trash enemies always stagger instantly. But most two-handed weapons stagger less than one-handed maces, and it takes upwards of 10 attacks to stagger actually dangerous targets.

What's really bullshit though is knocking enemies down. They just hop back up to their feet in one second and refill their stability, and hitting them while they are down doesn't seem to do any more damage than just clubbing them after their attacks. If you actually manage to lower an enemy's stability, it's better to just hold block and take the occasional swing, so they don't refill, but you can still flinch them.

>>16320391

Use the crafting menu. Put the lantern and oil in and craft.

Can you enter random room names and hope to join one?

>>16321863

You deserve banning, you sound like a fucking faggot.

>>16321863

please show me where in that post the video games are.

>>16321851

I wasn't banned, and the only posts I had made this week were in this thread. I asked other anon's how they were liking the game, and some hotpocket deleted my posts. That's pretty gay.

>>16321887

>stop fucking kikes!

>video games

yeah okay

>>16320351

I might go archery because I'm hearing something about a 1shot build with that.

Kind of a redundant question, but can anons clarify if this is any good? I remember seeing the trailer for it at e3 last year and being intrigued, but want to make sure first.

>>16318769

On the one hand, dual tag teaming a cyclops or grigori type motherfucker would be fucking incredible, but on the other hand, I worry about how having co-op would negatively impact the game.

>>16322166

I think it's good, it's comfy

>>16322166

I've been having fun with it. Definitely worth a pirate, see if you like it. Progression has felt a bit awkward, and money seems to be slower than I'd like. And there's plenty of eurojank.

>>16322166

It's worth a pirate but definitely not 40 freedombucks.

For a game about exploration, you use the home town as a base constantly in the beginning. A home town filled with static unresponsive game object-like NPCs.

>>16318606

What the hell happened to Perlman?

>>16322278

It's sarcasm, I hope

Otherwise, maybe he's going senile. He's getting up there in years now.

>>16322174

>>16322171

>>16322170

I've been trying it out. Been liking it so far. I finally understand what people meant by "jankygraphics". Essentially better quality morrowind graphics. It is comfy as fuck. Kinda weirds me out that the npcs just stand there in the dark when you come back at night.

Fun game and a labor of love but apparently it's broken as fuck with tons of problems in the latter part of the game. Wait to play it

>>16322146

Horror Bow with Piercing Shot, applies Extreme Poison and Extreme Bleed

Anything that is not a golem or ghost dies (overtime)

But you need a plan B for non-living enemies

>>16324466

>Unless it's actually realistic and you don't need a drink to stop dying within 30 minutes.

Generally you won't ever be hungry or thirsty because you'll want to eat food and drink water for the buffs they give.

>>16318494

Extremely mediocre, but has promise.

So, there is mods to remove the cap on co-op players.

/v/ game night when?

oh yeah, i made a game, name is "vidyagames", feel free to join but bear in mind im in the desert, you might get hurt if you're not prepared.

>>16325351

Join this game (max 6 people for now). But first you have to:

>download mod from anon files for people who dont want to sign up for nexus

https://anonfiles.com/Q9YcI7Ydmd/PlayerLimitRemover_dll

or

https://www.nexusmods.com/outward/mods/2?tab=files

>Create folder "Mods" in Outward folder

>Place .dll from anonfiles/nexusmods in there

>????

>Launch game and join "markisafatjew" all lowercase

How's the performance?

>>16324466 (Checked)

>you don't need a drink to stop dying within 30 minutes.

What >>16324625 said holds true, however there's one other drink you should stock up on later when you get money and that's Tea, it restores burned stats more than a stamina potion, and gives you weather resistances or other things. All you need is a beetle or cactus, and water to create your own tea.

Also if anyone knows how to make or easily obtain Garberry Wine for free please let me know. I require varnishes.

>no magnet

What a shit thread.

>>16328156

It's pretty stable, despite jank from a small team, it runs alright, then again I'm on a 1080, 4k runs without a hitch on ultra

It was kind of shit, tbh. Everything about the combat and movement felt floaty, enemies that would be trivial otherwise becoming dagerous simply because the character reacts shittily to user input. Camera could also use some work. For an RPG, the story and quests are nearly non-existent as far as I could tell, leaving you with a sandbox where you're free to dungeon delve for loot for no other reason than to acquire more loot. The survival system is a joke - water and food are at every step and you can sleep to full health anywhere and guard against ambush. It doesn't really become an issue save for hauling a bit of extra shit in your backpack. In game economy is also shit as you can easily accumulate large amounts of money just by pawning off whatever shit enemies drop.

>>16318494

Low budget Eurojank version Dragon's Dogma with some nice camping mechanics.

This is not a slight at the game its pretty comfy.

>>16318494

>tried to play it

>buggy as shit

>>16329581

On the surface, it really doesn't seem like it should be as bad as I found it to be. If they'd polish it up and make things less broken, it could be a great game. I want to play this but it's hard to do when it goes out of its way to keep me from doing so.

>>16329594

Can we please stop doing this? Magnets are not like archives at all.

Yes, you're denying revenue to the creator of whatever is behind the link by using it instead of using the legal option. But that's where the similarities end.

Archives are used because jornos get money from clicks, Devs don't get money just for looking at gameplay videos or critics and that alone is more than enough to talk about the game from an informed perspective, which is the point of providing links (in the form of archives) in the first place. You don't need to buy or even play a game to talk about it nor do you need some link to prove the thing even exists either.

Furthermore, an archived link to some article is just a link to an archive. If it fails, it's redone but that's that. Magnets, torrents and the like are not the same.

You'll link one version and then someone will complain it's not the latest one or it's not the right one.

You'll link an uncracked version and they'll clamor for the crack. You link the cracked version and they'll clamor for how to install it.

The second you start dropping links, you're gonna be flooded with retards that expect you to be their hacker tech support for free games, so why not tell them "learn2pirate" instead of spoonfeeding them every single time?

We do the same for porn, memes and many other things, why make an exception for videogames using article archives as the reason? When there's a Share Thread dedicated to archiving videogames even!

Furthermore, wouldn't it be a natural consequence of widespread piracy among idiots that can't even find magnets on their own something that would easily lead to more and more sites being targeted and terminated? Would you put it past a normalfag to post the links you gave him on some Discord or Facebook group?

So why would you risk the safety of the sites you use to oblige someone that is too stupid to find it on it's own in the first place?

Do you want more IGGGames? Because that's how you get more IGGGames.

>>16329607

I remember a time when the concept of "demo" existed. I remember a time when you weren't such a complete faggot.

>>16329613

False equivalency. A Demo isn't the complete game, so when you're done with it you have far more than just a moral obligation to buy the game if you liked it.

It's also a shitty way to solve that particular issue, not only because the situation isn't ideal (how many games did you end up buying after playing a pirate copy vs how many you didn't despite liking them?) but because you're offloading the burden of providing a "demo" onto someone that has next to nothing to do with the devs themselves beyond starting a thread to talk about a game they like.

It's not the responsability of anyone to spoonfeed or provide tech support for the illiterate among us, it's up to them to lurk moar and learn2pirate so they stop being newfags all the time.

>>16329674

Nobody should be allowed to make threads about new games without also dropping a download link.

>>16329676

Nobody should be allowed to post on /v/ without knowing where to get magnet links for the games they want to play.

You found your way here, you can find a magnet on your own as well, instead of being a lazy dumb nigger.

>>16322360

If thats the real one then it's even worse than the fake.

>>16329613

>>16329607

He's actually right, /v/ was never about sharing game torrents in the same thread of discussion and we already have a share thread. I don't understand why anons expect to be spoonfed torrents now.

>>16329683

The sword cuts both ways fuckwad. What's the matter? Too occupied with your hotpockets and pocky to copy paste the game name into a tracker search engine?

>>16329728

You have yet to make a good argument for why it's the OP responsibility to find and spoonfeed a link for random faggots.

Just because it's simple and quick doesn't mean it falls on OP to do it and if it was that simple and quick, anyone can do that themselves anyway.

Besides, you're coming from the point of view where everyone will pirate everything no matter what.

First of all, that defeats the purpose of Demos as tools to judge a game and grab your interest. If you're not going to buy the game anyway, why bother making a demo in the first place? You'd just pirate the full version anyway!

Secondly, what if the OP is posting a game he actually likes and would like to see a sequel or more work from the same Devs? Why would OP sabotage the franchise he likes by posting magnet links?

Or to put this question in another way, why does it fall upon the OP to decide what games are worth buying or pirating for everyone else? Can you decide that on your own and find a magnet or a place to buy it on your own depending on your own personal opinion?

This is constantly being compared to archiving when that's incredibly stupid. Someone could photoshop an article or claim something was tweeted, the archive serves as evidence for everyone else to believe that it actually existed. You don't need similar proof about a videogame because not every new videogame thread is about the final release of Half Life 3.

This is also defended as being a way to filter out marketers since they'd never post a magnet, right? FUCKING WRONG. If the point is to get discussion about the game going, especially when they expect you to end up buying the game afterwards for multiplayer\achievements\random cancerous reasons that nevertheless work, they won't have any problem posting a magnet. It does not matter, you're still gonna help by word of mouth or buying anyway.

Magnet links are not archiving and are a shitty filter that's so easily bypassable it's insulting you even believe they work. All these posts are dumb niggers that don't know how to pirate in the first place demanding you work for them for free. And when things get hard, it's going to be begging all the time, tech support demands and eventually whatever place you used to get your shit from gets shutdown because these idiots are not carefull at all.

Why would you bend over for a bunch of moronic illiterate niggers that will ruin your shit?

>>16329875

Are there AI companions? I kinda want to try this game for the camping and go on comfy adventures with friends but if it's just multiplayer for companions, that's not too bad either.

I'm also seeing a lot of examples of standard fighters, but what about magic and dick ass thieves? Are those viable ways to play the game?

>>16329899

It's common courtesy to post sauce of porn you post. Oh wait, no it isn't, you're supposed to lurk moar. This shit only began being "common courtesy" not even a year ago after a massive influx of newfaggots frorm 4chin and it's no coincidence. You can't pirate for shit, if you want to be spoonfed go to the share thread.

>>16329683

It's obvious you want /v/ to pirate less, you stupid shill. Fucking reported.

>>16329815

Holy fuck, you're even dumber than the guy I was replying to. Re-read both of our posts and check ID's.

>>16329919

>mfw I do it and I'm the retard

Well, suicide awaits.

>>16329815

>This is constantly being compared to archiving when that's incredibly stupid

Where does this happen? The only relevance to archiving I've seen is the discussion in the share thread for long term archival, which is not a comparison, instead it's an attempt to apply the efforts of SNES archiving to PC games.

>>16329914

>It's obvious you want /v/ to pirate less

Shut the fuck up you dumb cunt. We lost GoodOldDownloads because it got popular and IGGGames had to do something about it.

If you normalniggers kept your fucking mouths shut, that site might still be up. Who knows how many others were lost in the same way? The last thing that piracy needs is to be made even easier or more popular, I don't care about how much you pirate, I care about people learning to pirate on their own instead of acting like normalniggers about it.

>>16329917

>It's a false comparison

I explained why it's a false comparison with archives and explained why it's an apt comparison with porn. You provided no explanation, so shut the fuck up.

>hurr what if you wanna make sure the company gets their hard-earned cash to continue making games, right fellow anonymous posters?

I like Amplitude Studios. I think they did a great job with Endless Space, Endless Legend and other shit they did. I want them to sell a lot and make more expansions for the games I like or make sequels for them like what happened with Endless Space 2.

Why the fuck would I ever post a magnet to any of those games if I want the company to succeed?

There's a thread up about Risk of Rain 2 where a lot of players are having lots of fun playing the game. And yet they are still sticking to pirated copies instead of buying it. If it's because they are short on cash, that's perfectly understandable but if it's just because they can, that's stupid.

In 2020 Borderlands 3 is going to come out and sell 20.000 times more than RoR2 ever will. Anthem probably already sold more copies than RoR2 ever will. And neither of those games is better or more fun than RoR2 but investors and devs wouldn't know it judging from the support they get from players.

You're all a bunch of short-sighted niggers that make excuses after excuses for why you're so lazy and stupid. Not all videogames are shit and it's not OP's job to curate their quality and provide a link to spoonfeed illiterate niggers like you lot.

>>16329912

No AI companions afaik but at certain points you'll get npcs helping you for a battle or 2. I've just been playing the game solo and it's been pretty good for me.

Can't really comment much on magic but it's definitely there and there's a lot of it so it seems like something fun to experiment with.

There is a stealth approach with traps and sneak abilties like backstab but you have to go a bit out of your way to get the abilities, the rogue trainer is in Levant, the desert city, but you can also willingly get yourself captured in the Vendavel fortress in the starting area which gives you a pretty fun escape quest and also teaches you backstab.

It seems more like a traditional rogue where you can apply poison to your blades and chain together lots of status effects on enemies too since I don't think most enemies will die in 1 backstab even if you do stealth them.

>>16329933

magnet links and torrents are not direct downloads, shut the fuck up you inbred retard and follow context.

>>16329594

See, this is another thing I hate with magnet links posted here.

This one is just the base game. There's already a patch and DLC content that's not in this link but Fitgirl has a repack with it, for instance.

So here's the thing, is it the responsability of the OP to not only post the magnet but also keep track of any update for the game and re-post a new magnet when there's any content added?

Or wouldn't it be better if everyone that actually wants to play the game went to find his own torrent\magnet\repack and thus find the latest version automatically on their own?

>>16329973

>basic rules of conduct for making threads that've been custom for fucking years

You're new, you're stupid and you're a fucking moron. You have no proof of that and anyone that has been here for more than a year knows it because that wasn't the norm for a long time. Lurk moar was, is and always will be the norm. It was only after the "muh shills" spilled over from /pol/ to here (which coincided with halfchan niggers migrating en-masse) that magnets began to be demanded as proof that OP wasn't a shill.

>There's absolutely nothing wrong with pirating anything and everything, whether for any reason or for no reason at all.

<There's absolutely nothing wrong with dropping out of the videogame market and let normalfags dictate what's produced in the future

I quoted the example of Borderlands 3 for a good damn reason. That 3 is there because enough morons bought the previous 2 to justify making a third one. So while shitty games get financial support to get made, you're gonna sit here and claim there's nothing wrong with pirating good videogames. God, you're a fucking retard.

Also, funny thing that I went looking for the game on my own too. Your magnet is also outdated as well and missing the patch+DLC.

>>16329933

>Risk of Rain 2

>And yet they are still sticking to pirated copies instead of buying it

Because they want to avoid Gearbox, you dishonest faggot, the thread is full of saying exactly that, yet you present it as some mystery.

Ctrl + F: Gearbox

>>16299707 55 matches

>>16317011 13 matches

You might have an argument somewhere, but it's lost under the terrible examples you bring.

>>16330023

No shit, why do you think I'm using Borderlands as an example as well? Because that's Gearbox own IP that they are handling as well.

If Gearbox gets far more cash from Borderlands than from RoR2, what do you think they'll try to make in the future? Or how are they going to model their gameplay in the future as well?

Keep in mind that RoR2 does a pretty good job with character skills aftecting how they play and it's many items are far better for character growth than the pathetic excuse that Borderlands puts out as a skill tree. Maybe taking some lessons from that could improve their own franchise so it's at least less shitty and anyone interested in better videogames would understand that.

But if all you want is to virtue signal how much you hate the bad guys and you don't believe in redemption or anyone ever being able to change, of course you're just going to focus on that.

Also keep in mind that Gearbox is strictly the publisher only, no hand in the development of the game. Nobody knows what cut they get from the game or even if they get a cut instead of a flat fee. It's all just more excuses to avoid supporting a good dev that made a good dev, just own up to that shit and stop acting surprised with good vydia being so rare, that's the future you're building.

>>16330053

>what do you think they'll try to make in the future

Nothing because Risk of Rain doesn't need Gearbox to survive

>>16330060

>If you were here, you would've known that it was normal to include a magnet in the OP

If you were here, you would've known that it was normal to tell anyone to lurk moar and shaming anyone that actually spoon fed.

My premise is just as valid as yours since we're presenting the same amount of evidence.

>cuckchan invasion which only occured in 2016

You're forgetting what happened two years later, when the jew in charge of 4chan broke that place even more, fucked even more with /pol/ and even started a new 4chan that's SFW. When that happened, we got another wave of refugees that shat the whole site. You should know this, that's when you came here.

>don't bother supporting good devs\games, it's not worth it

Faggots like you are the reason Apex Legends became popular. Couldn't support Titanfall 2 because it was published by EA, despite actually being a good game, so it's "sequel" is BR instead of TF3.

But hey, it's okay! You can just pirate it after all, right?

>>16330080

>supporting EA of all things, under any circumstance

The devs should know better than to have EA as a publisher.

>>16330088

You can quit switching IPs, you're not fooling anyone.

>>16330089

It's shorter than typing halfchan or it's variants. If you're okay being lazy with your piracy, you don't have a leg to critique me on that.

Besides, I wanted to see if it was still wordfiltered or not, not to mention 4chan is one of those sites, the other is actually written in a different way.

>it's okay to support shit companies like EA if they manage to sell a good game once every ten years

Yes, it fucking is. Do you care more about the game or the company? Because you're supposed to support what you care about the most and that's supposed to be the game.

If their Battlefied and Star Wars games become flops but TitanFall sells well, there's better odds that they make better games in the future instead. Maybe the only reason they only make a good game every ten years is because they sell even worse than the bad games they make?

Like I said, if you don't accept that anyone can ever change for good and completely remove the option for redemption, than every company has a very good reason to stick with normalfags. They aren't just more, they won't stop buying their shit ever regardless of what they do.

You're a virtue signaling faggot, caring more about fighting big bad companies than getting better games in the market. Stop making excuses, there's nothing but ideology motivating what you do.

>>16330347

what the fuck, is that a debug item?

>>16330333

yeah i glanced upon it and it looks like a bunch of offtopic shitposting.

back on track, MP mod seems to be working OK

>guy in starting village tells you there's a dude who will teach you magic through ghost pass

>get through ghost pass

>make it to magic tower

>it's a trainer, spells cost 600 silver

Fuck you.

>>16331218

the trainers seem to be spread around the world. there's one in Cierzo (the starting village) too, he teaches you some combat skills, not magic, but yeah. there are trainers all over the place.

also you cant learn magic until you unlock Mana, which is done under the Conflux Mountain

>>16332402

I've been trying to do a generic sword-and-dagger build and I've been getting a bit sick of it because it feels like I'm doing nothing to enemies outside of Cierzo, and trying to double down on damage by offhanding a dagger (which you can only use with an ability, breaking the dodging flow) instead of a shield has absolutely killed my survivability to boot, so now I'm thinking about respeccing (I have almost nothing put into skills). Is magic that good?

Was also using 2h for a bit since I haven't invested much into skills, but even that felt a bit subpar, and it's getting frustrating, especially with how floaty melee combat is.

>>16332423

Are you using rags/varnish and traps?

Poison rags are pretty easy to make, all it takes is a cloth and some grilled crabeye seeds. Works pretty well against most living things.

The main point of the game is your character starts as an average human, learning weaknesses, preparing equipment in advance, setting traps and sometimes running away is how you not get your ass kicked.

>>16332656

Is this game pozzed?

>>16332830

As you can see there is one non white so the game is absolutely pozzed and you should never even pirate it.

Man, it's been a while since i played a game with such a shitty combat system, i can't believe someone made such a crap system in fucking 2019.

>>16322360

>>16318606

>>16322278

The tweets are fake, but him making fun of Donald is real. Of course its not hard to make fun of Donald considering he makes Bush look like a Nuclear Technician.

>sleeping burns your maximum mana

how do you recover mana?

>>16333043

Can you make your character white and colonize the world?

>>16333296

I know some teas will restore it.

>>16329990

i've been here for years and lurking since halfchan and yes it was common for anons to pirate everything

>>16333310

most likely your rectal cavity is the one that will get colonized, either by chimeras or giant insects

>>16332656

Nothing wrong with a game having a few niggers here and there. I'd rather they not be there at all. But I can look it over, as long as they are a small minority. It only makes sense to have a lot of niggers if the game is set in Africa or something like that. In that case, I simply won't buy it.

>>16333677

this was in the forest. though i think she was a mercenary

>>16333718

>social commentary

>in a fantasy setting

Dropped. I had some hope for this game, but shit like this is just plain demystification, the same shit that killed bikini chainmail and frothing barbarians.

>>16333296

Make tea with clear water and seaweed, that's the cheapest way

Using Mana also restores burnt Mana slightly, in the lore Mana gets burned by innactivity

>>16332423

Daggers are shit, stick to shield or grab a two-handed sword and learn the 2-hand party skill from the gate guard, it's brutal

From a difficulty perspective bows are easiest and cheesiest weapons, then are tanky melee builds, mages vary in difficulty based on the type of magic and enemy, super aggressive quick enemies are a pain for mages

How to ruin your game by getting the strongest 2 hand sword in the game too early:

Grab 20 tripwire traps and 20 iron spikes

(You can craft those easily)

Then go to the forest, find the city of Berg, talk to the merchants until you find the one offering a reward for killing the Manticore, then leave the town and go west to find the Manticore Lair, you will see a glowing winged monster, that's your prey, place all the 20 traps (don't forget to place spikes on each of them) and lure the Manticore on top of your deathpath, about 18 traps should kill it if you land a blow or two (watch out she can shoot spikes)

The Manticore drops the sword and also good monster parts the sell well, the tail you can turn in the merchant to complete the quest and gain 200 silver

>>16333740

It's a fucking joke you goddamn dork

>>16333886

I actually had two gold-lich boxes so I made a gold-lich claymore after a run to the swamps, that has made life significantly easier.

>>16333167

At first observation, it's clunky. Enemies that attack faster usually have a greater advantage over you if you aren't wearing good armor because you will likely be forced to trade hits to get your own in because their attack recovery time is shorter than your roll recovery time. Then there is the issue that breaking an enemy's "poise" completely knocks them back too far and they only take a single second to get back up for you to follow up properly.

Weapon balance is not so good, 2 handed weapons either do or don't do as much impact damage as a 1 handed mace. The impact they do deal is underwhelming, and you can't use a shield or throw a lantern in your offhand, so why bother? That's another thing that's pretty fun to do, throw old lanterns that you find at enemies.

There are the bandits in the Marshes who do atleast a quarter or a fifth of your health with adventurer's armor, and take more damage to defeat and stagger than the bandits in the mountains and the forest despite wielding the same iron sword every other bandit uses and wearing what I think is scaled leather armor which doesn't offer much more physical resistance than the improvised leather set.

I don't have anything to say about magic at all because I haven't tried it outside of the tutorial, plus like (You) said it's expensive to learn. I don't want to sacrifice any of my max health and stamina for it, especially when I can buy 40 max mana at Berg from the magic trainer, and supposedly, obtain 100% manacost reduction with end-game mage armor.

It wasn't ironed out well enough and may as well be on-par with Piranha Bytes' melee combat.

Another complaint I have is, what the fuck is the difference between Protections and Physical resistance and which is more important? What's the difference between blight and poison, they share very similar icons but how are they different? What else counts as "physical resistance?" Nowhere in the game are any of these stats or damage types and their effects explained to you. Some are self-explanatory but only because they are obvious, yet the things that aren't obvious have no explanation for what they are or do outside of "check the wiki" that's a fucking gamepedia wiki of all things. I like this game, but it just isn't done right. The only times it totes "realism" is when it inconveniences the player. It feels more like this game was designed around the coop more than the single-player at times.

If any of you are looking for a faster way to travel, grind on Pearlbirds and pray that you get a Pearlbird mask from one. That's +20% speed for you while you wear it.

>>16334381

I believe protection is a flat damage negation. 5 protection means that when you get hit, you take 5 less damage. Resistance is a % negation, so getting hit by 20 damage with 25 resistance means you take 15 damage - although I don't know if it actually translates to 1:1 for the percentage value.

>>16329607

>waaah don't pirate my game

Going to download it just to spite you.

>>16329607

Drink bleach and shoot yourself in the mouth, you fucking failed abortion.

>Outward is Slate's home for in-depth coverage of LGBTQ life, thought, culture, and the ever-expanding queer conversation.

Nice game, faggot.

>>16334310

It might be a joke, but this social commentary shit is far, far too common in fantasy, to the point where it might not be far from the truth: they very well might have made some social commentary, thus devaluing myth.

>>16329607

At first I thought you were just anti piracy and I thought you were a fag, but by the end I agreed with your points, anon. If people can't figure out how to pirate shit on their own then they don't belong here.

>>16335986

isn't Zephyrien the guy who helps you fight in the Holy crusade Conflux Path to the Leyline, and gets blown the fuck out quickly in the process by the mana mantises?

RIP him

>>16334381

In relation to your fighting enemies point, I can say that strafing, blocking, and footwork has fixed all these issues. The only time i've had issues with opponents is when they were significantly stronger than me, which was a problem of stats, not weapon swing speed.

Also, i think some being faster is by design. In their dev talk at E3, they mentioned they wanted you to have to use traps to survive and be clever, not steamroll through everything like common adventure games nowadays. Also also, adventurers armor is kinda shit, get blue sand armor, or halfplate or something at least. I can't comment on mana as I noped out when I found out i'd lose health/stam for it.

>Protection/damage resistance

It's in the name, protection protects you from damage, and resistance resists as a percentage. So, halfplate as an example reduces every swing you take by 2, whereas its like 25 damage resistance reduces damage by 25 percent. At least that's how I understand it.

>Blight and poison

Dunno for that, if I were to hazard a guess, blight is corruption, whereas poison is poison. Probably just diversifying the types of dots you can get over time, like bleeds, or burns, etc.

>>16335731

I mean you'll be instantly pissed off when you play it considering your best friend is a nigger, though you don't really have to do anything with him, since he goes to sand land and you have several options of places to go, one being sand land, the other the capital of the tribes, which seem pagan in nature, or being a crusader to kill people in defense of your gods. Though if it makes you feel better, the black dude immediately runs away when the village tries to hold him responsible for a blood debt that his family caused, which is considered horrifically dishonorable.

>>16337234

Yeah, the weird dude with the candles on his armor, cause that's a good idea. Have fun looking around retard. He didn't get blown the fuck out for me though.

>>16333167

Earning money in this game is so fucking tedious.

Fuck you game, I don't wanna spend 20 hours grinding for cash so that I can finally buy the skills that I need for my build.

Antidotes? Check. Bandages? Check. Infection tea? Check. Health potions? Check. Food? Check. Water? Check. Trap components? Check. Elemental weapon buffs? Check. Tent? Check. Lantern? Check. Good to go. Destination: a direction that I haven't went towards yet.

I'm loving this game, hadn't felt like I was out on an adventure like this since Morrowind.

>>16334381

>>16337409

Seconding the Blue Plate stuff, it's so much better than padded armor or fur armor. So far my strategy against hard enemies has been to use law down a few traps, use food/water/elemental rag/bandage before engaging, and then open up with Shield Bash and beat the fuck out of them with my mace. If it doesn't die to the initial burst, I just block/side step and take swings after their combos while my stamina recovery does its thing. Depending on how things progress, I'll probably keep playing with a shield, and hide behind my shield while I kill enemies with multiple dots.

>>16339001

you can drop your bag, walk back a few steps, sprint and pick it up and you will sprint while you are putting the bag back on. it can be quicker than walking depending on how overburdened you are.

>redditors find a new word

If you haven't heard of eurojank then you haven't been in a stalker thread, and if you haven't been in a stalker thread you're a new as fuck.

>>16339001

you can get the 110 limit bag very early, go to the desert city, buy 2 energy cores, return to the first zone, in the bandit fort near the town place the cores in the locked door to open it, the bag is in there

Some questions for other anons playing this:

Are camps you build permenant? Can i build a camp with alchemy station and everything in the middle of berg and just safely leave it there?

Are bags you drop on the ground ever disturbed by npcs in towns or in the wild? In towns without homes, can you reliably leave your long term stockpile shit on the floor in a bag without it ever being garbage collected?

Im not getting the feeling i can manually overcome these fights with raw player skill. Am i wrong?

>>16339188

>Are camps you build permenant? Can i build a camp with alchemy station and everything in the middle of berg and just safely leave it there?

I left this tent in the first town and dropped a bunch of stuff beside it day 7 and it was still there day 113. Same with the fireplace and alchemy thing I had set up in flower town.

>Are bags you drop on the ground ever disturbed by npcs in towns or in the wild? In towns without homes, can you reliably leave your long term stockpile shit on the floor in a bag without it ever being garbage collected?

This I'm not sure about. In the wild outside of town I think those may reset after some time.

>Im not getting the feeling i can manually overcome these fights with raw player skill. Am i wrong?

To a point you can. Just depends on how long you want to drag the fight on. Attack patterns are predictable and easy enough to avoid but some bigger monsters have a lot of health and would require no mistakes to win.

>>16339188

>Im not getting the feeling i can manually overcome these fights with raw player skill. Am i wrong?

you can stunlock every enemy in the game

I don't get magic

Is it supposed to be this limited? Whats the point of Wind and Ice Sigil when all I have is spark?

How can enemy witches cast ice projectiles and AOE with no sigils?

>>16339001

I've just been using the local co-op for that. Made 4 niggers named "Category" Masser? and just have them join in when i need them to carry shit. Travelling back to the stash became a hassle so i'd like to imagine I just walk around with 4 nigger packmules following me with gear.

>>16339660

Because they're bandit witches who steal shit and kill people for a living and have been studying magic for a while, and you're some bumfuck peasant who washed up on shore last month.

Also spell-wise, there are a bunch of combos, try them and remember to read your status effects. There are several basic spells, and these interact with different sigils in different ways and are not restricted to the same element type. For example, Spark in a wind sigil actually casts lightning. Some of these effects may SEEM useless, but read your status effects carefully, and experiment heavily.

>>16339660

>how come a witch has better magic than i do?

>>16340455

he's cool and looks a little like guts, his hand is a claw and his leg is a peg

>>16340455

>Yzan Argenson

>Your son, Argen son

Protag name confirmed: Argen.

Is silver important in the game? Because that would be quite the coincidence.

>>16340484

iz you sayin that Argen iz argentinian n' shit?

>>16340473

>>how come a witch has better magic than i do

yeah how come

these are shitty bandit witches and they can do shit I can't do after mastering 3 different disciplines

>>16340610

>tfw you have to spend your breakthrough points on a useless skill to unlock better class skills instead of a fun and useless one

so, has anyone managed to fix the multiplayer yet? its clunky as hell, i cant connect to some people, but they can connect to me, and some other people i can connect just fine but they can't connect to me. its weird.

>>16341069

Dude don't play coop in this game, it RUINS it. Best it once or twice solo before you do dumb shit like that.

>>16341168

>going on an adventure together with a friend ruins the adventure

i disagree but either way looks like thats not happening, the way its made is that only the story of the host moves forward and even if both stories could move together, the connectivity sucks. you can barely connect to people and you get constantly disconnected while playing.

>>16341069

>>16341168

how does the game scale with more players?

>>16337409

>>16338604

The only part of adventurers armor that's shit is everything but the chest. Halfplate is meh but I know and see your point as I eventually found better armor later on to help take blows while dealing hard blows of my own. I have a full set of elite plate and petrified wood armor now. I don't know what blue sand armor gives but for a blacksmithed armor petrified wood does a good job at being cheap to commission and reliable.

As for >Blight and poison, my mistake the "blight" was called Decay, and it is the dark element. No relation to poison at all ingame but the name can still cause confusion.

>I can't comment on mana as I noped out when I found out i'd lose health/stam for it.

I decided to man up and get magic, the conversion ratio is 5 health and stam for 20 mana which is actually pretty decent considering the trade off and mana cost of spells. Learning magic is a pain since it's the same "talk to npc and pay 50 silver to learn ability" but it is what it is. Flamethrower is a fun spell you can learn from the watchers at the center, turned even more fun once I got the ethereal lantern, a lantern with infinite durability, from the Blue Counsel quest series.

If it makes any of you feel better Roland, Yzan's brother who does nothing but fuck up, ends up redeeming himself

how bad things get if i lose my lighthouse? cause starting the game with a time limited quest when i don't even know what the fuck i'm doing is making me get extremely anxious, even more so when losing a battle can make you lose up to 3 days.

can i just say "fuck it" for the whole blood debt shit and just become a vagrant?

>>16341446

yep and getting silver for the blood meme is actually easy, just talk to people and you'll find easy ways to make money

>>16341446

You lose a known kitchen and storage facility, but I haven't tried to not pay the debt yet. It's actually really easy to pay it off as long as you have a bandage and a desire for exploration. If you want to pay it off in silver though just comb the beaches for blue sand. You'll see what I mean if you do that.

>>16341245

the game doesn't scale. thats why its limited to 2 players.

>>16333141

>Showing your superior IQ by making fun of Drumpf by telling a story about how you pissed all over your own hands to own Harvey Weinstein (a hollywood jew who also hates Drumpf)

Conservatards absolutely BTFO forever

>>16341615

>implying anarchists, ancaps, and ancoms don't piss all over their hands regularly for fun and profit/unity

>>16341245

>>16341193

>implying I've even played this flavor of the week

Still playing Project Zomboid and Salt And Sanctuary.

>>16341446

>how bad things get if i lose my lighthouse

The lighthouse provides you with a storage space and a free resting place that keeps your food and thirst at 100%

>cause starting the game with a time limited quest when i don't even know what the fuck i'm doing is making me get extremely anxious

just restart the game if you fuck up

>can i just say "fuck it" for the whole blood debt shit and just become a vagrant?

you can but having a house is really nice and comfy

some tips

>you don't need to spend money to get rid of the blood debt, a tribal favor is much better for it

>make a fang weapon and inflict bleeding on enemies

>learn how to use tripwires and spikes

>meat stew gives you passive regeneration, so does jerky

>while fighting enemies strafe towards your right(their left) and many attacks will straight up miss you

>>16341906

oh and a basic bitch combo for early game is to kick any enemy then start spamming attack until they get back up.

>>16341954

nice burnt mana

NERD

>>16329933

>You're all a bunch of short-sighted niggers that make excuses after excuses for why you're so lazy and stupid. Not all videogames are shit and it's not OP's job to curate their quality and provide a link to spoonfeed illiterate niggers like you lot.

Welcome to /v/, a board full of fucking ass crack cumstreak accidents from /pol/ and cuckchan spewing shit and bitching about the very thing they are.

>>16342659

I went all in on the 3 mages

>Kind of considering that tree because of the constant mana regen passive.

That passive sucks ass. Stay at Tired to get a much better mana regeneration rate without spending a breakthrough point then get Reveal Soul from wind guy and cast that+spark on dead humans to regain mana.

>>16342752

How is it going mage? What does your equipment and prepared item loadout look like?

Remember reading somewhere that having a larger mana pool increases the damage of spells, any truth to that?

>>16342770

I don't know about mana pool affecting damage but the magic system is too clumsy to use actively in combat, at least when alone. I have 120 Mana, 80 from Ley Line and 40 from the Passive and my Rune Trap with Runic Prefix deletes the purple ghosts in a single one.

Chakrams are rather underwhelming in terms of damage and range so I dropped them and just use a bow for pulling and debuffing. I've been using bleed weapons on anything that bleeds(went from Fang mace to Taurasor Axe) and the Rune magic sword on anything that doesn't. All I've been wearing is Master Trader gear as mana hasn't been an issue for me.

I would recommend you get the rogue skills instead of the philosopher ones because the chakram is fucking useless.

So… is the game worth 40~ yoropooridoo dollaridoos?

>>16342797

Not really. Get it in a sale or just pirate it.

>>16342787

>I would recommend you get the rogue skills instead of the philosopher ones

Was looking at Rogue, feather dodge looks nice but most likely won't use the other skills much.

>>16342818

Pressure plates are really good as there are enemies which cannot bleed or be poisoned but can be burned but yeah its the best breakthrough skill around.

Theres also the Shaman skill tree with Wind Infuse which increases your attack speed

isnt this just shitty attempt at mimicking Risen?

just play Risen instead, its got full story and rpg mechanics, its actually a full game

>>16342890

>isnt this just shitty attempt at mimicking Risen?

That's as accurate as saying that Dark Messiah is a bad attempt at mimicking Arx Fatalis.

>its got full story and rpg mechanics, its actually a full game

Also applies to Outward, what are you talking about? Risen is a good game but it's not really the same as this one, considering the differences between how magic works or that Outward leans more towards camping, preparation and going on an adventure instead of being strictly about the story and your place in it.

>>16318494

Most of it is pretty well done. But the combat is dogshit. If enjoyable combat mechanics are important to you in a game skip it. If not, go ahead.

>>16342659

Rogue for that delicious backpack roll, spellblade for moar damage, and monk for moar stamina. Playstyle is basically circlestrafing and spamming attacks with a cold-infused gold-lich sword.

>>16342659

I did mage. Sit back and throw magic at enemies, if they get close drop a magic mine down and infuse light to my weapon and attack. I didn't get the backroll, seemed like a waste when its one button to instantly drop backpack and one more to pick it up.

>>16343836

>I didn't get the backroll, seemed like a waste when its one button to instantly drop backpack and one more to pick it up.

Its a 50% reduction in stamina usage AND the ability to roll with a bag. This means you can roll to a trader with 150 kg of stuff in your bag.

>get to Electric Lab

>think to myself that the place is pretty big

>keep clearing stuff, my bag is already overweight

>get to a room with a big treasure chest and a strong enemy, thinking it's the end

>it's the halfway point

>throw away most of my shitty food, all of my iron scraps/spike traps/tripwire traps

>get out of there with almost 600s worth of sellables, on top of a bunch of great loot including that hi-tech lantern that takes forever to run out

I'm starting to think that the way to play with shields might be to stack stamina cost reduction gear with a high impact weapon and lots of stam recovery consumables and just beat down stuff really fast.

>>16333141

>he makes Bush look like a Nuclear Technician.

Hardly. Say something smart Bush ever said. They couldn't run a business if his life depended on it.

>>16333718

>pic

>no archive link

fake heretical news.

When is the next fucking update? It's been like a week already.

it's a good game but the story is basically non-existent

NPC storyline is barebones and there is no reason to continue play after you beat all the bosses

they sold us a beta, a beta with good mechanics and sold gameplay

but still they sold us a beta.

>>16344174

Took the picture myself.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/pope-francis-fear-of-immigration-makes-us-crazy/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/pope-francis-says-fear-migrants-makes-us-crazy-n961611

https://www.courthousenews.com/pope-says-fear-of-immigration-is-making-us-crazy/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2019/01/23/pope-francis-trumps-border-wall-fear-that-makes-us-crazy/

https://sojo.net/articles/pope-francis-fear-migrants-makes-people-crazy

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/pope-francis-says-fear-of-migration-making-us-crazy

imagine unironically being a catholicuck, lmao

Easy money making in the first town; craft Warm and Arcane potions from materials from vendors.

>Acquire an Alchemy Set and at least one Waterskin.

>Place the alchemy set near water near the general merchant.

>Buy all Thick Oil, Turmmips, and Star Mushrooms (keep same number of those two)

>Craft Thick Oil + Water at alchemy, and Turmmip+Star Mushroom+Water. Refill your waterskin from the ocean as necessary, salt water works fine.

>Sell resulting potions for about 200 silver profit per cycle.

>Rest 72 hours, repeat.

>>16346182

Kinda feel like they should've scrapped co-op and just make good singleplayer content. What little content there is, gets pretty old pretty quickly.

>>16347624

It probably could have been better, but coop in this sort of game is a really unique feature. For those people who would actually get to use it, it might mean the difference between a 6 and a 9/10. Dropping the coop the best they could have done is a 7/10.

>>16342770

>>16342787

Rune Trap, holy fucking shit rune trap. I just beat the Light Mender by kiting him into that shit over and over, didn't even take that long and he never hit me once. If you can time it right you can trigger the detonation advanced combination AFTER the trap goes off (you have around 1 second before it fades completely), the two together knock basically anything on its ass and do insane damage (with Runic Prefix).

>>16346182

>they sold us a beta, a beta with good mechanics and sold gameplay

this. the game is clearly incomplete and has some design flaws at its core.

there is no actual survival. you can't lose. whenever you die you just respawn close by without any losses, no items lost, no experience lost, no money lost. nothing.

the co-op is fundamentally broken. it works like a dark souls blue phantom, rather than actual co-op. you help the "host" player but you don't get any progress or rewards yourself.

the 3 main storylines are very short, and they don't tie up into a bigger overarching plot like you'd expect from these kinds of games.

Tried everything I could think of to make shields decent, but there's just too many demerits.

>blocking attacks is less stamina efficient than running the fuck away

>you need to have stamina food and water going into every non-trivial fight in order to have enough stamina to block and attack

>blocking is useless against multiple opponents

>blocking breaks your shield really quickly, meaning you need to repair every few tough enemies

>blocking doesn't help against spells, so you still need to dodge that shit anyways

>against harder enemies, you'll need to try to create distance all the time to regenerate your stability and stamina

>half the mobs in the game will do their attack combo and then immediately dodge, either giving you no window or opportunity to attack or as I like to call it: makes you whiff and waste your stamina

>using a shield means using a 1h weapon which means shitty range

>putting up the Confusion debuff with Shield Slam hinders you against most enemies since you'll be constantly knocking them down, and most knocked down enemies take little to no damage while knocked down

I could see some frost/axe+shield build working, where you slow/cripple your enemies to death, or some thief build that spams debuffs and then hides behind a shield while the enemies die to DoT. Either way, you'd still want a ton of stamina cost reduction gear and buffs, because blocking destroys your stamina bar. And that's assuming stamina cost reduction works with blocking, which I haven't tested. Checked some shield builds on jewtube, but all the ones I watched were barely using the shield and just tanking hits or dodging/sprinting away.

Survival aspects are shit (way too easy)

No where close to an rpg (only rpg part is the main story little to no side content)

Graphics are terrible

Co-op is buggy mess (missing loot, mismatched dialog per player, bags disappear)

Not worth 40$. Max 20$ title and it deserves the early access badge. Do not buy.

>>16351121

I use shield early game until I get runic magic, then I keep the lexicon in my off hand at all times. Runic prefix is too good to pass up for the "no lexicon" version, especially since it boosts the damage of basically everything. My entire strategy revolves around running backwards and spamming Runic Trap (Shim+Fal) while the enemy runs into it, and if I have the time and space I detonate the trap (Shim+Shim) AFTER they run into it. Basically it's Shim, Fal, Shim, wait, Shim. If I miss the timing I can just Fal again instead of Shim and drop a new trap. I can also use Fal>Shim to shoot them with lightning instead if you don't want to chase me.

Early game yeah, it's pretty much just block/tank and counterattack. It doesn't really work for shit against later enemies, but then that leaves me to wonder what DOES work against them, besides kiting and dropping traps.

>>16351126

steam game discussion tends to agree with you. going to be interesting to see what the developers say/do.

>>16353030

yes,get the codex version