821989 No.16314996
this game is legitimately the best puzzle game to come out since Narbacular Drop.
b912c5 No.16315002
Great gameplay webm, I'm interested in this game now. Thank you for also providing a DL.
You fucking moron.
#!qNI3wAyI!gQkA-sWOJ_H-eFXEK_sRNCWG08buW-DEy0uzoX8-X68
101ca8 No.16315006
Make a better OP next time you cum gargling mongoloid
dubs
38447c No.16315015
Your game looks like shit
8b5edb No.16315036
I play it. I like it. I think it's good.
09be65 No.16315050
I think there needs to be a distinction between different puzzle game types. This is one of those types where you need to stare at the puzzle for a while and figure out how to accomplish a seemingly simple objective, i.e. the best kind of puzzle game.
Stephen's Sausage Roll and Snakebird are the only other ones I know.
6c348b No.16315081
09be65 No.16315106
>>16315064
Well, jigsaw is a puzzle game as well but there's no distinction between these two. Overwatch and Call of Duty and Quake are all FPS games even though there's separate terminology to differentiate them.
44f98b No.16315128
e475b7 No.16315190
ff8089 No.16315228
>>16315050
There's 2 defining traits to these games that I can think of; simple gameplay mechanics that can be utilized in wide variety of ways, and the fact that you don't know many of those ways until you complete some puzzles, so you learn to see the puzzles and mechanics in new ways as you go. All of them also share the quality that you can freely move and push things around without failing the puzzle, there aren't exact steps required to get to the solution.
Discovery puzzle games? Mechanical puzzle games? Learning puzzle games? Noggin joggin puzzle games?
bc8790 No.16315245
821989 No.16315250
821989 No.16315262
>>16315228
I'd classify baba is you as a logic puzzle. What would you considered a "mechanical" puzzle game? A physics puzzle?
ff8089 No.16315281
>>16315262
I think physics puzzles are a category of their own. I also can't recall any that I liked.
>>16314996
Found a gif spoiler that shows what the game is about.
821989 No.16315293
>>16315281
WA BA
LL IS BA
BA
BA IS YOU
062fb9 No.16315317
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c7f858 No.16315348
Pirated it a few days ago. It's fun I guess, but not to a degree I'd buy it considering some of the money goes to (((charity))).
The main part of the game is pretty decent, but I'm enjoying the mindfuckery puzzles you unlock by breaking the game after opening the last gate on the level select a lot more so far.
09be65 No.16315503
>>16315427
>twitter posts are videogames
b912c5 No.16315553
>>16315002
I like the gimmick and it's fairly well made. The artstyle feels kind of meh.
c7f858 No.16315568
>>16315427
I already figured the dev would be a fag, but couldn't be arsed to go look. Thanks for saving me the time.
Still worth a pirate though.
b912c5 No.16315589
>>16315568
>Already figured the dev would be a fag
Why? Because of the nordic game jam?
>still worth a pirate
It is. It's a really nice gimmick for a puzzle game.
914e6c No.16315610
>>16315503
>buying a game funds dev's sodomy
c7f858 No.16315623
>>16315610
>good game means you have to buy it
4d33e7 No.16315629
062fb9 No.16315631
Here's the Linux version https://files.catbox.moe/jc8ir9.gz
Should be .tar.gz if you hadn't guessed but catbox is autistic
>>16315427
Imagine my shock
062fb9 No.16315710
>>16315679
No anon you don't understand, that image is the thumbnail of a deleted youtube video and the full version never existed
dabd91 No.16315743
>>16315002
Cheers, lad
>>16315553
My thoughts exactly. This is like a Flash game being sold for retail price, but at least it lets you pull 600 IQ plays.
990b75 No.16315917
>>16315427
What are you trying to accomplish witth a cap from some fag that isn't the dev?
5662a8 No.16316110
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Cant play overly complex puzzle or programming games while online.
Easily frustrated and tempting to simply look up a solution instead of wasting ½anhour thinking or bruteforcing through all variables.
At worst you need prior knowledge in implementation in order to solve things.
Game like embed related took a cracking hobbyist a month to make a simple keygen and he had to look up a part of the solution. None of you can honestly unlock the in game "DLC" of pwn adventure 3 if you had never made a keygen or key DRM before.
aac0ca No.16316142
I'm about 100 puzzles in and really enjoying it, it gets quite tough in the mid-game. I think there's only five I've attempted and had to move on from, it's nice that the map is structured so that it's almost impossible to get stuck on a single puzzle.
It seems like the release version is a little buggy, hempuli's hotfixing the game multiple times a day, so I always worry when I run into a problem that it's just some unpredictable behavior, like in a puzzle where you can say ALL IS YOU but somehow that doesn't mean TEXT IS YOU, even though that would be the case in other puzzles
>>16315050
It's a sokoban game
cbe250 No.16316197
>>16315631
>Segmentation fault
fug
60f6fa No.16316207
>>16315917
The dev retweeted it.
5945a6 No.16316369
>>16315228
Logic and Abstract puzzles? Logic puzzles being something like this game and abstract puzzles being something like La Mulana
34033e No.16316413
How would you even describe a game like Baba Is You?
>>16315427
Every time with this shit
b912c5 No.16316435
>>16316413
It's a block pushing puzzle game, but instead of pushing blocks you're pushing words around to form basic sentences which then change the rules of the world.
For example, Baba Is You means you control the sheep(or rabbit, no idea what it is). Flag Is Win means touching the flag wins you the level. You can control the walls of the level, transform them all into keys, have keys kill you, float over non floating objects, or control the "win" object simultaneously.
707c8c No.16316461
34033e No.16316524
062fb9 No.16316526
>>16316197
I just got it from ggn. Did you make sure if you got any messages about missing libraries? Did you try running the 32 bit or 64 bit executable directly?
>>16316142
>I think there's only five I've attempted and had to move on from
I don't suppose one of those was The Lake extra 2?
b90e09 No.16316533
I like this game enough but I just started and I have no idea what the hell 'sink' is supposed to mean. Sometimes it destroys stuff but not always, is it just a synonym for defeat?
8f724d No.16316550
>>16316533
Sink takes down what touches it, and is mutually destructive I think. You can make a rock is push and sink, and you can push it on a hazard to clear the path.
c7f858 No.16316632
So what's your progress, /v/? And how many secret worlds have you discovered *they're the icons in the top left, they get put there for easy access since some are recursed like 4 layers**
>>16316533
Sink destroys an object or text, and itself, but only if the object is not float. Floating things just float over it. Unless the thing that is sink is also float.
3882bb No.16316633
>>16316526
island extra 3 stumps me
e462e5 No.16316707
>>16315427
Thank you anon
Now sage this shit thread and check my doubles.
c7f858 No.16316730
>>16316707
It's still a good game, faggot
7bbc8e No.16316751
>>16316730
>one shit game turns a good dev into a shit one
>people aren't allowed to ever make mistakes
?
38447c No.16316758
>>16316751
IF IT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT
88ce23 No.16316769
>>16316751
It's a per-game basis, not a per-dev.
>people aren't allowed to ever make mistakes
Well duh
How am I supposed to bully people otherwise?
a498d7 No.16316778
>>16316207
Who cares? Most devs and gamers are left-leaning, this is nothing new. The game is apolitical, has interesting puzzles, and is easy as fuck to get for free. So his signaling for faggots will do nothing in the end.
7bbc8e No.16316798
>>16316758
YOU'RE SHIT
>>16316769
>How am I supposed to bully people otherwise?
Fair point.
4b1497 No.16316803
>>16316207
Game devs generally like when people show adoration for their game for some reason.
c7f858 No.16317185
I demand my non-paid money back, I can't even get porn when I clearly deserve it.
e475b7 No.16317202
>>16316413
>>16316435
A rules-based meta puzzle game?
9ce04a No.16317244
>>16317202
sokobanlike logic puzzle
34033e No.16317304
>>16317244
It's not anything like sokoban.
bbdeca No.16317330
>>16316751
Making a bad game isn't a random mistake, it's a chain of never-ending mistakes over the span of multiple years. Although there is some exception, the majority of bad games do not occur due to one or two guys making a mistake that nobody notices. Dozens (and sometimes hundreds) of people touch the mistake multiple times throughout development.
f3fc21 No.16317387
>>16317330
I guess the better rejoinder would be
>People cannot learn?
bda7da No.16317393
>>16317330
A project failing can be the fault of a few people with the rest doing their job fine. In particular, those who make the decisions in larger projects can fuck things up irreparably with poor decisions. Some of the most utterly fucked building projects I've ever seen were almost entirely the fault of a handful of people in management.
b623b4 No.16317398
This is the most queerish game ever mentioned on /v/. It makes Tumblrtale look straight.
3882bb No.16317402
9ce04a No.16317419
>>16317304
You will have massive problems solving puzzle games if you are unable to identify obvious similarities between things.
Instead of opening a thread with a game that needs thinking simply go back to fortnite.
e475b7 No.16317429
>>16317419
I think he meant more in the way of how a level is solved. In Baba, you can just become a wall and step onto the flag, or what have you (obviously this becomes more difficult as you progress). In Sokoban, you just assemble boxes into specific areas.
34033e No.16317453
>>16317398
Undertale has a literal gay romance in it.
In this game you just move works around.
9ce04a No.16317472
>>16317429
you need to push boxes in correct ways in order to become the wall.
movement system and 80s aesthetic and screen being the level and many other things are identical.
3882bb No.16317485
>>16315050
maybe terises of the world should be called action puzzles
02e3de No.16317506
>>16315050
3d Myst is amazing.
3d11ac No.16317518
>>16317330
Platinum made Korra. Where is the chain of mistakes there?
990b75 No.16317566
>>16317518
Because the game isn't actually bad just mediocre, only the subject matter of the game is horrible and that's another problem entirely.
713edb No.16317687
c7f858 No.16317689
>>16317185
>can't spell minuseight
My plan to get porn has been foiled again
8240c2 No.16317764
I hate this kind of game. It's obvious that I'm supposed to come up with a new mode of interaction the game doesn't want to teach to me, but as far as I can tell the only rules you can change in this level are:
1: remove "baba is sink"
2: add baba is wall (turns you into a wall and locks the level)
3: add flag is wall (turns the flag into a wall, locks the AND and WALL in place so you can't use them anymore)
4: add flag is sink (locks the and in place and does nothing)
5: add wall is sink (does nothing)
6: add wall and wall is stop (retarded)
You can't even use the modifier AND at right angles.
9c8980 No.16317767
>>16316197
You need to run the binary from the root directory.
I.E: ./bin64/Chowdren
34033e No.16317802
>>16317780
How about filtering the thread you fucking idiot?
89ac01 No.16317819
>>16317764
Couldn't you make it "wall and baba is you" and control both the walls and baba?
aac0ca No.16317820
>>16316526
>spoiler
No, they're Island Extra-2, Island-12, Fall Extra-3, and Forest-E. I wouldn't say I'm stumped since I didn't take more than ten minutes on any of them, but that said, still haven't solved them.
>>16316632
I've only been playing for a few days, so I don't have any of the secret worlds yet. I've been looking forward to BIY for a long time but it happened to coincide with the month DMC5 came out.
>>16317764
>You can't even use the modifier AND at right angles.
Well that would be troublesome, since two statements can overlap orthogonally, you'd have to establish some kind of priority if you could write an angled statement.
8240c2 No.16317829
>>16317819
Never mind, I'm retarded. I mentally excluded putting the AND in front of baba, because I was fixated on what places the and could be placed that wouldn't lock it in place.
eed49b No.16317857
>>16315679
>The hide button is larger than the webm
34033e No.16317872
>>16317852
Oh fuck off with your retarded logic. I hear this dumb shit all the fucking time.
It's a puzzle game with no real story or themes, you can't just shout "GAY GAY GAY" like a retarded monkey and expect like you're standing up to the rest of the thread who are actually discussing it.
1a9d63 No.16317878
>>16317764
You don't have to play it all in one go.
Come back to it later when your brain is in a different state and you might see stuff from a different angle.
But if you want an actual hint:
What's the difference between SINK and DEFEAT?
c72cea No.16317891
>>16316142
>KeKe
>name of a humanoid like character
what was meant by this
34033e No.16317897
>>16317878
>What's the difference between SINK and DEFEAT?
I think it's just a cosmetic change for the theme of the area. Like how some areas use "foliage" instead of "wall"
aac0ca No.16317915
>>16317891
>the sheep goes ba ba
>the ??? goes ke ke
Good question
>>16317897
I think he was just speaking rhetorically, and they are genuinely different, DEFEAT elements aren't mutually destructive.
2bfd21 No.16317926
>>16317891
>>16317915
I'm pretty sure it's just meant as a good double syllable companion name to Baba.
c7f858 No.16317937
Whelp, I can't think of anything I have left to solve. Time to sleep.
aac0ca No.16317949
>>16317937
Impressive, how long did it take?
8240c2 No.16317953
>>16317878
I couldn't solve it for a different reason than that mental block, I was excluding part of the level from "what words I can interact with". I did end up solving it, then lake-extra 1 right after.
lake-extra-2 is confusing the shit out of me since you can't push baba into the defeat condition as a rock, change back to baba, then move out of the defeat condition before the defeat check.
You also can't seem to form sentences from bottom to top, just top to bottom, so fucking with the wall isn't allowed.
9c8980 No.16318005
>>16317897
defeat is exclusive to the player while sink can effect objects
aac0ca No.16318018
>>16317953
>>16316526
>Lake Extra-2
Come on, anons, you can do it.
It is kind of a shame how many of the puzzles boil down to taking a few elements and running through all the different permutations of how they'd fit together, hempuli's development streams led me to believe there'd be more creativity to solutions than that. Maybe I'm not deep enough yet.
18b140 No.16318040
>>16318018
I did this earlier today and I'm pretty sure you seriously over complicated it.
Rock Is You -> Move Rock to your side -> Baba Is You -> push Rock into position -> re-assemble Rock Is Push behind rock and push -> Rock is You.
aac0ca No.16318045
>>16318040
I just wanted to record it as quickly as possible, and that last step shouldn't work if you think about the position of the text.
60f6fa No.16318055
Where's the goddamn torrent? This game looks pretty interesting.
>>16317897
SINK seems to destroy all objects involved while DEFEAT only affects YOU.
8240c2 No.16318061
>>16318018
I fucking got extra-2. I didn't realize at first that you could push objects with words, so I actually got right up to solving it on my first try, sat around with my thumb in my ass for a while (metaphorically), then got it.
Cleared all of lake easily right after.
The game, so far, really isn't that clever, and is more about figuring out the exact meanings of the game's rules through permutation spamming.
Lake-10 was the most interesting puzzle so far, but I just solved it by bashing my head against it really.
821989 No.16318066
>>16318018
>>16318040
You can literally push the rock in with the "Rock is Push" text and sacrifice "is" and "push" to get it all the way in before you move "rock" to "is you"
aac0ca No.16318092
>>16318066
I understood what he meant, you're envisioning that after you use "Rock is Push" to push the rock in that "Rock" will be directly above "Stop", right? How are you going to push "Rock" back up if you can't get under it?
3882bb No.16318102
>>16318018
i ended up re-using the "is" between baba and you and then using the spare "is" to push the rock through
cbe250 No.16318116
>>16316197
>>16316526
>>16317767
Never mind, I forgot to finish some fuckery to get two versions of basic libraries installed to run some legacy shit, and most executables were giving me that error. Forgot one symlink.
Working fine.
>>16317767
Also stepped onto this rake after getting my problem sorted. If you don't do this, you might get something about an audio device being initialized and then get a segfault, as in Opening audio device
Audio: whatever-whatever
Preload audio took 2.1e-05
Segmentation fault
9c8980 No.16318269
>>16318116
Did you cd into bin64 and run it? Don't do that.
30b8e9 No.16318284
>>16315427
>gay gameplay
>promotes fags
makes sense
c88f03 No.16318363
>>16318116
works on my machine you may have to install (((pulseaudio)))
259e16 No.16318651
>>16316730
>Having a square that is a paradox
Whoever made that image is retarded.
259e16 No.16318711
Why isn't there more Baba x Keke porn yet?
e475b7 No.16318787
>>16318711
BABA is YOU and HARD
e475b7 No.16318799
Okay I have to be missing something obvious here
3882bb No.16318806
>>16318799
its not really something i ever thought about that often until i got to that level. its not a glitch, its a mechanic.
e475b7 No.16318812
>>16318806
Ah, that's happened a few times before, accidentally. That is a little unintuitive. Do many future levels do it?
9c8980 No.16318815
>>16318799
baba, keke is you. Clip through the wall is stop text and disable wall is stop
821989 No.16318859
>>16318799
I hate that one. It's just obtuse.
d26f63 No.16318893
>stuck on Island 9
AmIDisabled.jpg
d26f63 No.16318898
>>16318018
You grossly overcomplicated it. You should all be aware you can use an IS twice in cross fashion.
BABA
ASS IS BEST
YOU
e475b7 No.16318913
>>16318893
I solved the regular map of this no problem but this extra version is hard
821989 No.16318935
>>16318913
clone key (or flag), open water, see image, win
e475b7 No.16318946
>>16318935
I'm fucking retarded, I thought I had to extract the WIN block by drilling two water tiles and even with a side open I couldn't figure that out
c7f858 No.16318954
>>16317949
Kinda wish there was a way to know if I'm 100% done or not, especially considering there apparently are multiple updates with different numbers of levels. But I'm fairly sure I've used everything that was level-able as a level, even the few things that are already levels without looking like one.
Such as the rock and water on the flower map, or the yellow flower in Meta
bc8790 No.16318961
>>16317330
>Dozens (and sometimes hundreds) of people touch the mistake multiple times throughout development.
lewd
8b5edb No.16319027
>>16318935
spoil that shit you asshole
631276 No.16319067
>>16315503
if a faggot makes a game and you like it then your chance of being a faggot goes up. that's how it works lads
fc1fb9 No.16319210
>>16318946
Me too anon, I was so fucking fixated on how to turn both key and flag into baba to break two water tiles and still have a YOU controlled object.
257fa9 No.16319467
>>16318711
Do Not Sexual KeKe is not for sexual
d26f63 No.16319486
4a08c8 No.16320399
cc9939 No.16320475
>>16315281
What the fuck am I looking at
a506dd No.16320588
>>16315081
>Jonathan Blow in the special thanks
b4820a No.16320597
Pretty standard block pusher. The adjectives system doesn't change up the formula that hard. I have hundreds of hours of sokoban clones on my backlog and if I decided to have at it right now then this wouldn't be my first game. We probably wouldn't even have heard about this game if it didn't take a knee to the usual subjects.
fcd7ca No.16320612
>>16320588
Rami Ismail as well.
cb6357 No.16320771
>>16317915
I believe Koreans go kekekekeke.
bfb8bd No.16320784
>>16320771
Yeah, Koreans type ㅋ (ke) for laughter. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ = Korean kekekeke and is equivalent to hahahaha.
Side note, this use by Koreans in Starcraft is actually what originated the 'kek' phrase that Blizzard later used in WoW. It didn't originate in WoW itself as some newfags falsely claim.
2bfd21 No.16320810
>>16320330
This is fine as long as you don't start inflating them :^)
259e16 No.16320857
>>16320771
>>16320784
Then what's with all those jap cartoons that laugh going kekeke?
bfb8bd No.16320869
>>16320857
Because Korean and Japanese are very similar-sounding languages with close proximity to one-another, I'd imagine. Your question is roughly like like asking "How come, if English-speakers type 'hahaha', the Spanish-speakers type 'jajaja'?".
b5ba8c No.16320917
>>16320810
Did someone call Dobson?
259e16 No.16320919
>>16320869
You're missing the point. keke can mean things other than Koreans.
295a2c No.16320958
>>16320917
He's just joking around because that artist has an expansion fetish. Not quite the same thing as inflation, but it's close.
e475b7 No.16321565
8f724d No.16321578
>>16320597
You're genuinely intellectually defitient if you can't spot the difference between a block pusher and this.
b4820a No.16321596
>>16321578
>block pusher: you primarily do shit by pushing blocks
>this game: you primarily do shit by pushing blocks
e475b7 No.16321613
>>16321596
>Novel: You perform input (turn the page) to interact with the output in realtime
>Video game: You perform input (mouse/keyboard) to interact with the output in realtime
b4820a No.16321616
>>16321613
Novels don't have a fail state. Unless you count CYOAs, which I guess are a type of game.
259e16 No.16321626
>>16321578
You primarily push blocks to complete an objective. Having the ability to change the rules governing the blocks via meta mechanics like making the rules the blocks themselves doesn't change that. It's a block pusher.
cbe250 No.16322269
So what's the most bullshit puzzle you've seen thus far?
My money's on AB, for only one reason: belts have a priority, probably based on where they were when the level started. Oops, you put the identical pieces in the right orientations in right spots but they're the wrong ones, better fruitlessly try to think of other solutions before trying the same one again out of desperation and have it magically work because you got the order right.
Some/most of this game's mechanics feel like bugs elevated to features and work out, others feel overused or too messy. Stacking things on top of each other in the same tile gets a bit fucky. At least they introduce that quirk to you in a pretty simple situation,
Also, do the orbs do anything? I got two.
cb6357 No.16322281
>>16322271
>sage instead of spoiling
Shit
8f724d No.16322315
>>16321626
A block pusher primarily, if not solely, relies on pathway awareness, thinking ahead to avoid pushing yourself into a corner, and trajectories. Baba is You lets you cancel every move by a push of a button, is very generous in terms of space, and is about thinking out of the box and meta. It is both not a block pusher, and has mechanics that actively prevents it from being a block pusher.
fcd7ca No.16322337
>>16322269
>orbs
They unlock a gate in the final world, which has a gallery locked behind it with sixteen or so images behind it hidden in a text puzzle
>>16322315
<a block pusher is not a block pusher if it has an undo button
Baba is You relies on pathway awareness, where the pathways are the directions you can push sentences without breaking them to form new ones, and how to get words to certain locations despite blocking terrain, or when and where to place words in which order so you can form sentences at the right times without losing access to certain words you'll need later. It also relies on trajectories, especially in the puzzles where things are Move.
tl;dr You are both retarded, and have retarded ideas that stop you from being not retarded.
8f724d No.16322631
>>16322337
Okay, I get it. You never actually played a block pushing game and don't understand what they are about. You're just seeing Baba is You is technically pushing blocks around, and thus it must mean it's a block pushing game. Nigger, plenty of JRPGs feature actual block-pushing puzzles, not the least of which Deadly Premonition and Nier Automata. Go play those. Come back once you are less stupid.
2c84f4 No.16322780
>>16316751
Good thing the diagram doesn't take previous titles into account then.
2c84f4 No.16322973
>>16322790
Anon was clearly responding to the diagram's claim that good devs don't make shit games, not to what was being discussed in the prior reply chain.
fcd7ca No.16323066
>>16322973
Good devs don't make shit games =/= good devs haven't made shit games
If what you're working on right now is a good game, you are eligible for the good dev status as long as you're not also a politics pushing retard
There, >>16316751 's problem solved, the diagram works.
cbe250 No.16323593
All is done. Well, 210/11/3 is done. And I'm not entirely sure, but I think the first orb room isn't supposed to give you a second orb if flag is bonus.
Some of the extra levels require resolving older puzzles in different ways just to access them. This meta shit's weird, man.
9/10 breddy gud.
888829 No.16323616
>>16322973
>Post deleted
Now what.
259e16 No.16323838
Why does SKULL is ALL have the same effect as SKULL MAKE WALL?
>>16322315
>Being forgiving makes it not a block pusher
>Having space to push blocks makes it not a block pusher
aac0ca No.16323850
>>16323838
It shouldn't, SKULL IS ALL would make every tile with a skull contain every object in the level, so for that level it's a tile with a skull, a wall, and water all overlaid. SKULL MAKE WALL should just lay a wall tile below every skull. It might look the same because you can't see the water beneath it.
4a08c8 No.16323872
>>16323838
When you make a X IS ALL, all tile types from that level will appear on tile X, if you move or push it, all objects will appear in a single tile, some of them overriding the others.
>>16321965
I just like how many levels have alternative solutions like that, I bet the dev didn't even think about them.
259e16 No.16323879
>>16323872
>I just like how many levels have alternative solutions like that, I bet the dev didn't even think about them.
Most levels with alternative solutions have some harder version of the level where the orthodox solution isn't viable.
cbe250 No.16325532
>>16323872
Some of the ones closer to the end are so janky that letting you win seems like an oversight.
>>16323879
If you get stuck on any alternative levels, check to see what's different between them and the original. Sometimes it's one obvious change and one more subtle one which turns an original level's old non-working strategy into a viable one.
Something like the dimensions of the level changing, one block now having enough space to be pushed, an obvious anticheesing wall mysteriously not existing anymore or there not being any puzzle and you just walk to the end or push IS WIN a little and you're done.
663d94 No.16325674
>>16315427
>implying /v/ isn't gay as fuck
cb6357 No.16325702
259e16 No.16325755
>>16325702
BA do hu
BA n't rt ME
e475b7 No.16325795
5c5336 No.16327633
>>16315427
>gay rights
Are they not allowed something?
432641 No.16327653
>>16327633
Misplaced civil aggresion via the means of marxist ideals that an equitable society is preferable to an equal one.
6d66c9 No.16327681
>>16318018
Was there some obvious way to solve Lake-Extra 1 that I missed? Because that solution is what I used for 1 and 2 is the same thing but easier because you only have to get past one crab. The jelly doesn't seem to make any difference.
>>16318913
>>16318935
Fuck, I just spent about 90 minutes trying to do this, first by trying to find a way to get three babas to drill two water blocks, then by trying to drill one block and get a vertical IS YOU AND WIN.
I feel so retarded.
259e16 No.16327685
> EM
>PTY is WIN
>Even has the WIN sparkles
>Standing on it doesn't win
It's easy enough to change it to ICE is WIN, but there isn't any reason this shouldn't work.
d08748 No.16327690
>>16327685
by standing on nothing you are filling it with baba, and it is no longer empty.
fcd7ca No.16327694
>>16327685
Empty is win only wins if empty is also you and not every tile is filled
259e16 No.16327750
I turned level 9 into baba and now I can't access it anymore.
4a08c8 No.16327764
>>16327750
Move the cursor on that little island, then when you enter it, move to the left instead of right, you'll thank me later
259e16 No.16327797
>>16327764
I'm not sure what you mean. The only island the cursor can reach is the Solitary Island, and doing what you say there does nothing. If you mean the obvious level island in the bottom right corner, the cursor cannot move off the track to reach it, and baba won't stand on any level blocks. Will completing A Way Out? give the cursor free movement or something to reach the island?
90ec45 No.16327873
>>16327797
What happens when you put Baba on Cursor?
259e16 No.16327931
>>16327873
Nothing, and space does not select baba as a level. I turned the level into a flag before and it was still selectable. This means Baba both has to be on the cursor AND in the original place of the level at the same time, which is impossible unless I can free the cursor from the track, or make baba walk on a level block.
90ec45 No.16328120
>>16327931
That's odd, when Baba is on the cursor I can go back to the original level.
259e16 No.16328153
>>16328120
I just figured it out. When Baba and the cursor on the same space, you can leave the track. To re-enter the level, you have to be on Baba, but not on the track.
90ec45 No.16328259
>>16328153
Yeah, trying not to give away a secret yet hint that you can get back into the level.
cbe250 No.16328547
>>16327750
Just a heads up. That is not a one-off gimmick.
259e16 No.16328577
>>16328547
It's pretty obvious. I already got to ???.
8827c5 No.16328586
>>16328577
No, there's more than that. That's what he means by "not a one off."
e475b7 No.16328599
>>16327685
How did you get WIN out of there?
259e16 No.16328620
>>16328599
It's not the most intuitive way. Look at the where the words are and try to figure it out.
cbe250 No.16328622
>>16328577
There's another one in ???, and after that, it's a common experience.
>>16328599
Empty is pull, text is pull will let you yank it out from below, but you need a frigid platform of not-empty to not get blocked by… nothing.
07af76 No.16328634
This game would be better if it was Koksal Baba Is You.
e475b7 No.16328784
>>16328622
>>16328620
Yeah, that is a pretty weird interaction. Once I saw there wasn't enough text to get WIN out, I figured it would be something like that, but I couldn't quite understand the logic of it
cbe250 No.16328876
>>16328784
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
3882bb No.16328877
>>16318946
i kept trying to figure out how to go in from the top
e475b7 No.16328881
Am I on the right track for this level? I seem to be short by 1 tile
e475b7 No.16328883
>>16328881
Oh wait that was it, I just didn't quite have things positioned right
9c8980 No.16328911
This game gives me headaches
ba3250 No.16328928
>>16328911
Same. Whenever I play a puzzle game and get stuck my head starts hurting and I feel dumb.
cbe250 No.16328943
>>16328911
>>16328928
The somewhat infantile presentation of logic in terms of declarative statements doesn't help.
How can I get Keke is key if Me is you and Keke is not melt and Baba is hot and Keke has Baba and Keke is sheriff and Me is you?
e475b7 No.16328950
>>16328943
Yeah but what I want to know is where's the caveman
e475b7 No.16328983
This was Space Extra 1, and it was actually really fun solving it.
cbe250 No.16328993
>>16328983
>do the fiddly star and word manipulation
>get Moon is win
>get through the dust
>get to the last room
>moon has become dust
>do everything again except the first few moves in a different order
e475b7 No.16329092
So this crap at the top feels meta. I haven't looked at the spoilers ITT yet
cbe250 No.16329104
>>16329092
That is just the tip of the iceberg.
90ec45 No.16329106
>>16329092
Well, the only rules on that level are Baba is You and Flag is Win.
e475b7 No.16329110
>>16329104
There's a few areas I haven't even progressed in. Should I come back later?
>>16329106
I understand how the LEVEL mechanic works, but I cannot even guess how this would get solved. Oh well guess I'll keep at it.
cbe250 No.16329154
>>16329110
Defeat only affects you.
cbe250 No.16329170
>>16329110
>>16329154
Oh, and you can always go back later. As far as actual progress toward the end goes, you're on the right path now.
e475b7 No.16329174
>>16329170
>>16329154
For that particular level, I feel like there's sequence of words I have to push up with Keke. The goal seems to be LEVEL IS FLAG for reasons, but I'm not sure how to maneuver the upper words after defeat triggers
cbe250 No.16329189
>>16329174
If you do that, you'll block off "FLAG". You need the whole donut-shaped area up there to be clear in order to push the word down and then back up.
e475b7 No.16329196
>>16329189
I figured it out.
What I did was set up Flag is Keke, then Keke has Baba, and Keke is Move and Weak. This killed Baba on the push, then respawned it
cbe250 No.16329207
>>16329196
That is the map that got me to finish every available level and extra level until I figured out how to progress.
e475b7 No.16329252
>>16329207
I'm finding these levels easier than some of the bullshit earlier ones
cbe250 No.16329296
>>16329252
They generally are, aside from maybe a few of the ABC levels, but I missed the one that has the gimmick until I exhausted all other options.
821989 No.16330074
79468d No.16331528
>>16330074
Nope, I stare at them like a retard still
259e16 No.16331576
What is this and why does it make me think of undertale?
90ec45 No.16331579
>>16331576
Just the dev's GF, methinks.
aac0ca No.16331719
I might call it there for the moment. I enjoyed the game a fair bit, but honestly not as much as I was expecting to, not based on what he'd shown over the years, and I'm getting a little fatigued and frustrated. I want to press on for the later meta puzzles, but the prospect of running into another level and learning another obscure edge case for a specific rule isn't appealing, especially when a lot of the rules don't feel consistent. I don't mean consistent from one puzzle to another, but consistent from rule to rule.
90ec45 No.16331743
>>16331719
Well, get to the secret world eventually.
aac0ca No.16331848
>>16331743
Does that require completion of X number of hubs on the level map, or does it involve something when Baba Is Level? I only have one puzzle in the Garden left, it's just the volcano and the mountain I need to deal with.
259e16 No.16331853
>>16331848
>or does it involve something when Baba Is Level?
This. Check level 10 again.
aac0ca No.16331872
>>16331853
Oh, right, I wasn't thinking about the hub's rules.
e475b7 No.16331945
>>16331719
>A Way Out?
What's the trick to this level? Obviously you set Keke up to push stuff, but I'm not sure what. Are you supposed to do Rock is Push in the top right?
aac0ca No.16331979
Okay, I'm sold on ???, I'm down for at least another afternoon with this game.
>>16331945
It's one of those levels you have to mentally reverse-engineer from the end state. "If I do this I can't do that, if I say Keke Is Move then I can never say Keke Is Push after that", etc. If you want a hint, figuring out why this little nigger is in the level is your best bet.
30cbc5 No.16332074
>>16315002
thanks, game is comfy
e475b7 No.16332462
The solution to this level was immediately obvious to me: ALL is PUSH
Is that the intended one? It seems too easy
259e16 No.16332475
>>16332462
I'm annoyed how this level broke precedent. With regular blocks, something like "WALL on KEY is PUSH" would negate "KEY is PUSH", prioritizing whatever came first in the sentence. Here, if you form "W A L L is KEY", WALL doesn't take prioity over ALL, and instead it turns everything into keys, even though the W lights up and is the first letter in the sentence.
cbe250 No.16332480
>>16332462
I got the same thing. All is push, bust out, push the corner down, door is open/shut, win.
I kind of like the very spotty difficulty level, throwing some softballs and weird shit at you every now and then.
aac0ca No.16332502
>>16322269
>AB
Boy I'm glad I played so much Infinifactory which also had conveyor priority for no reason. I don't think my solution had any reliance on priority, though, so maybe there are multiple ways to do it.
>>16332475
Really? Is that if you form A L L first and then slot in the W, or do you put the A in the gap of W L L? If the latter doesn't work that just seems wrong.
e475b7 No.16332508
>>16322269
>>16332502
I didn't have much problem with AB. It took a bit of time to figure it out, but it seems just fine to me.
cbe250 No.16332512
>>16332475
>>16332502
Eh, I wasn't that bothered by letters using slightly different rules. That same behavior is used in at least one later level, where valid words that share letters are all applied at once.
259e16 No.16332519
>>16332502
>Really? Is that if you form A L L first and then slot in the W
No, That would be impossible because it would turn BABA into KEY before you could do it.
259e16 No.16332523
>>16332512
>second sentence
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
cbe250 No.16332541
>>16332508
Hm. I had a loop going on the left side that swapped between a horizontal and a vertical statement, giving a few turns of movement, a few of nothing, a few turns of hot, a few of nothing.
Except when the belts were out of order, it kept pushing letters out of the loop. I needed the one that pushed them out of the loop to be on the top right so I could block it off with another tile. Maybe there are solutions that don't depend on it.
Also, some of the levels seem different in the Linux version than what some other people are playing, like
>>16331945
>>16331979
Maybe it's a version difference.
>>16332523
If you have, say, "BABA" "IS" K-E-K-E-Y "IS" "PUSH",
then Baba becomes Keke and Key will be push at the same time.
259e16 No.16332557
>>16332541
That's different. It's no different from BABA is KEY is PUSH which unlike BABA on KEY is PUSH doesn't cancel out KEY is PUSH.
e475b7 No.16332560
You can't tell me this isn't the solution.
cbe250 No.16332568
>>16332557
It would be more consistent if words would override others, but I didn't have an issue with W-A-L-L IS KEY containing A-L-L IS KEY and them both activating at the same time.
aac0ca No.16332569
>>16332541
If you're playing the pirated version, some of your puzzles might be outdated. A Way Out? apparently had an easy solution hempuli never thought of, and several other puzzles are the same.
Version 1 - https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=mG1HQNkT_JA
Version 2 - https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=zh26qfGqMf8
That second solution isn't how I did it anyway, so I guess there are still multiple solutions in there.
>>16332557
Isn't it, though? That sentence should count both BABA IS KEY and BABA IS KEKE, like any other puzzle where you'd have two words overlapping at the end of the sentence (like the one with the ice and the lava). WALL IS KEY and ALL IS KEY are overlapping in the same way, to me. I think it's just a specific edge case where there's no way to avoid spelling WALL without ALL.
aac0ca No.16332573
>>16332569
Oh disregard that I'm retarded, it wouldn't count BABA IS KEY
259e16 No.16332578
>>16332569
Then why doesn't a sentence like KEY on ROCK is PUSH have both the effects, "key can be pushed while on rock" and "rock can be pushed" instead of just former and not counting ROCK is PUSH by itself at all? That's inconsistent.
e475b7 No.16332585
>>16332578
"KEY on ROCK is PUSH" is more like "When the Key is on the rock, it (the key) is pushable". In a sense, "on" is a modifier for the first word.
aac0ca No.16332593
>>16332578
It probably should, although he'd have to throw out a few puzzles where the two options are necessarily mutually exclusive. You can't have a puzzle where TEXT ON ROCK IS KEKE also registers as ROCK IS KEKE.
aac0ca No.16332601
>>16332593
Or, I suppose he could throw rules into those levels which read WALL IS WALL or whatever, so that one reads as an invalid statement. It's a bandaid solution but it might at least save somebody some frustration.
259e16 No.16332604
>>16332585
That changes nothing. Either all sentences within a single line structure count, "W A L L is KEY" contains "ALL is KEY" and both take effect, or the first block(s) overide any that make a sentence which is contained within a statement formed by the addition of the first block(s), "BABA on WALL is ROCK" does not have the effect "WALL is ROCK".
>>16332593
He would have to throw out some puzzles, but it doesn't change that the logic is shit.
4a08c8 No.16333238
>>16328928
>>16328911
This is Occam's Razor: The Game
if you're overcomplicating the solution that means you're on the wrong track
>>16331979
Did you find the orb? move to the left in ???
>>16332462
I really wish for a game editor
fcd7ca No.16333293
b5057f No.16333856
>>16320475
first he takes WALL and places it alongside IS YOU.
therefore he is no longer baba, he is the wall (all wall tiles).
Then he touches the flag, and beacuse FLAG is WIN, he wins.
12044e No.16334066
>>16317472
> 80s aesthetic
80's games had more nuance to it, it's just lazy pixelshit.
90ec45 No.16334152
Mountain-Extra 1 makes me feel retarded.
>>16334066
I'd say it's programmer graphics.
c0a383 No.16334176
e475b7 No.16335296
>>16334176
Thank you for your contribution to the thread.
cbe250 No.16336087
>>16334152
There's a key difference between the extra level and the one it's based on that only prevents you from cheesing the original.
90ec45 No.16336285
>>16336087
Looked it up, losing patience with the remaining levels. The remaining few I have access to sure are going to be "fun".
cbe250 No.16336692
Felt like finishing off all the levels I might have missed, can't find any more than 217.
Tried moving the cursor onto random things, couldn't seem to get anything of value other that the one different colored flower outside one of the later maps.
e475b7 No.16336704
>Wrack brain on level
>Focus on a red herring element
>Finally solve it
>Unlocks hard version of same level
>Red herring becomes relevant
>No idea how to solve it now
cbe250 No.16336716
>>16336692
Looks like whatever version I have does have exactly 217 levels. Some kind of "wow u win" would have been nice.
>>16336704
There's more than one of those levels.
aac0ca No.16337117
>>16336716
>Some kind of "wow u win" would have been nice.
Does something different not happen when you do the FLAG IS END sequence in A Way Out? That's what I was expecting the reward for 100% to be
fcd7ca No.16337183
>>16337117
Nah, neither A Way Out nor The End in Center do anything different based on percentage, at least not in older prated versions. On Steam you'd at least get to see that you have 100% achievement completion, but nothing in the game reacts to you solving everything.
259e16 No.16338433
>>16331579
Porn needs to be drawn of her now, then.
f52852 No.16338437
>>16315427
>LO LO is VE VE
>LO LO is
>Lolis
>VE VE
>VEE
>/v/
>Lolis=/v/
What did they mean by this?
259e16 No.16338458
>>16338437
It was predicting the creation of this thread >>16336861
e34e6b No.16338466
>>16338437
It means get in the van.
6d66c9 No.16338538
>>16338437
Didn't you know? We're all little girls here. Except those of us who are aras.
e34e6b No.16338555
>>16338538
>everyone is loli or ara
>shota.exe not found
<aras start shitting up threads out of boredom
I solved the mystery!
e475b7 No.16338556
>>16338538
>Anon can be your mommy and breastfeed you
259e16 No.16338568
>>16338556
>>16338538
This is really fucking gay. >>>/erp/
e475b7 No.16339170
>>16331979
>If you want a hint, figuring out why this little nigger is in the level is your best bet.
By little nigger, were you referring to Keke or the notch that you circled? I never used the notch.
I removed Shift entirely, then I pushed Keke into the top right and made him patrol horizontally and line up the Rock over the ice to make Rock is push. It was a permutation I knew to do, but didn't click until today.
aac0ca No.16339180
>>16339170
>the notch that you circled
I was referring to that.
>spoiler
Interesting, I suspected that was possible but could never quite get it to work.
e475b7 No.16339198
>>16339180
Lemme show you. Can you explain your solution?
259e16 No.16339248
>>16339211
That version is different from the mega in the thread. Looks easier. Don't have to get through skulls to get to END.
cbe250 No.16339272
>>16339248
The one with the skulls is even easier because of the ice placement.
You can just have Keke feed words through the leftmost bottom hole in the top right chamber while you push them into position from the right, and then leave through the same leftmost bottom hole.
aac0ca No.16339291
>>16339211
Oh hell, I didn't even think about stacking KEKE IS MOVE vertically, that would have made life easier. I did this.
e475b7 No.16339340
>>16339291
That's probably the intended solution though, since you're using all the elements
aac0ca No.16340195
>>16339340
It must be, I didn't notice it at first but in my version he slightly changed the level to prevent your solution. I'll admit, it's a little annoying to see the dev pathologically eliminating creative, unintended solutions to the puzzles.
16970f No.16340440
>>16325702
What is free love?
7d36e6 No.16340725
>>16316751
>>16316751
A video game isn't something you accidentally make, faggot. If it's entire being is a mistake, it was a deliberate mistake that took lots of time and focused effort to get wrong.
259e16 No.16340902
e64a2e No.16340932
e475b7 No.16340968
>>16340440
>>16340902
Free love sounds pretty tame to me
6d4982 No.16340973
Free love is too tame for >>16340968
e475b7 No.16341149
Can I get a hint?
The answer seems to be to break the box, get the key, and open the door. However, you cannot reach the box. You can remove the water but then you have no way to break the box.
c1a09d No.16341228
>>16341149
I'll say right off the bat, you don't need the water. The important part about this level is that other than the closed off statements, there's only two objects that you can make to have multiple properties.
If you want a bigger hint, the mechanic this level uses is that forms of object disappearance outside of X is Y count for has statements, including shut and open.
If you just want to get past the level, make water is empty, then empty is open and empty has key, then box is shut and push the box.
Pretty sure that's what I did.
02376e No.16341288
How am I getting stuck on the last level in the game. This doesn't even look as hard as many of the ones I did prior to this. My brain must be fried.
02376e No.16341307
>>16341302
It legit is. I have 220 flowers, and only 1 achievement left. Unless there's ANOTHER secret somehow hidden in meta, this is the last one.
e475b7 No.16341321
>>16341288
>>16341307
So is this "A Way Out?" or a hardmode version of it?
02376e No.16341331
>>16341321
This is "Another Way"
Notice the lack of belts.
e475b7 No.16341335
>>16341331
Yeah, it's way different; but earlier someone ITT said there might have been a version difference, so that's why I was curious. Looks like just a different level altogether
02376e No.16341339
>>16341335
It is. You can get it through fuckery in meta.
02376e No.16341479
>>16341288
I fucking did it. The solution was quite different from the other solution which is why it stumped me because I was just trying to solve it the wrong way. But fuck yeah, full completion now.
Not in the pic but I also got to 222 after this because apparently a new level was added in a patch just now in Solitary isle, but it looked very familiar. Which means he probably shuffled some levels around also and I have no idea where the actual new level is. Maybe I'll stumble upon it going through all the levels again some day.
821989 No.16341719
some of these puzzles are obtuse as fuck
02376e No.16342603
>>16341719
>any puzzle where you have to overlap text
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh
e475b7 No.16345512
How close am I to figuring this out?
It seems that I have to get Baba in the top room to activate the rock, and then move it over, but I can't seem to get baba out. I have no idea why baba is push
cbe250 No.16345519
>>16345512
I don't know if this is the only solution, but I used the IS in WALL IS STOP vertically.
aac0ca No.16345525
Think I am done for good now, at 202. Very glad I went back for ??? and Depths, that was undoubtedly the best part of the game, but I don't think I have the energy to 100% it now. Shame to give up so close to the end, but what can you do, I'll do Meta some other time.
>>16345512
> but I can't seem to get baba out.
Then I guess YOU'll have to be something that isn't Baba, somehow
e475b7 No.16345539
>>16345519
>>16345525
The only other thing I can think of is not wall is you but even that is difficult to do, because Not will just sit there after being pushed in; otherwise both the rock and baba get stuck in here
cbe250 No.16345552
>>16345539
As far as the NOT is concerned, maybe you should think outside the box.
e475b7 No.16345561
>>16345552
>>16345552
I got it immediately and I hate this game sometimes
Next up is this fucker. I can't figure out how to jimmy the key in deeper, but I can get it to the bottom left at least
cbe250 No.16345583
>>16345561
There's a lot of finagling with pushing and swapping things around until they go inside each other, but I think you needed to make use of the mysterious empty space above the rock.
e475b7 No.16345621
>>16345583
All that does is fuck everything up
02376e No.16345891
>>16345621
Getting the key out and getting the rock out are 2 unrelated puzzles. You're overthinking it. I know, because I also was stuck on this for a long time due to overthinking it. Don't try to get the key all the way up into the corridor. You can't.
e475b7 No.16347022
>>16345891
Got it now. I'm very disappointed in myself.
e475b7 No.16348600
Changing the box to a flag and controlling two units lets you move things to the top right, but then using thing is text won't give you any exits
c7f858 No.16348655
>>16348600
Dunno if this was the solution I used, but
Align all the words from the water to the X is YOU
Move down onto the water, thus making something else you
Turn previous you into a word while it's on the other side, then the other item into that thing
Make sure it's not box so you can walk on it
044ee6 No.16348668
>>16318018
>barock is you
>doesn't turn into a nigger
e475b7 No.16348753
>>16348655
Huh? There isn't enough words to do that
cbe250 No.16348880
>>16348600
>>16348753
I got it by
getting two of flag and one of Keke,
moving one flag into the top box,
turning them both into text to assemble FLAG IS WIN
and finally shimmying around as TEXT IS YOU, rubbing against walls to turn Keke into a flag and somehow managing to put together FLAG IS YOU.
But there might be some other solutions as well.
02376e No.16348983
>>16348880
My solution was a lot less fiddly than that
[spoiler]Push Text up on KEKE for Text is You
Move down with IS YOU on the right enclosure so you form KEKE is You again
Now that you have Keke is you on this height, move it left so it KEKE is above the water
Move BOX from so you form BOX is You at the same time as Keke (the character) gets tele'd)
While Keke is on the right side, make Keke is Text
if KEKE is WIN isn't active yet (somehow in my previous movements as text, I'd already lined it up with the water spot), make it so
Then make Flag is Keke and move onto him for the win[/spoiler]
bfb8bd No.16348991
>>16348983
>[spoiler]
Well done.
02376e No.16349015
>>16348991
that shit used to work wth
spoiler
spoiler
e0dbd6 No.16349139
259e16 No.16349831
>>16348983
>using [spoiler]
>ever except in the case of embedded spoilers
>>>/4um/
259e16 No.16354309
ba6ac2 No.16355275
>>16315610
Meaning the faggot will die sooner from AIDS.
win/win
483fb4 No.16355291
>>16340195
sounds like the same shit that slowly choked out Darkest Dungeons fun
723f5e No.16355523
>>16355291
RedHook really fucked up Darkest Dungeon.
02376e No.16362335
Why the fuck did he remove secure cottage
I really liked that level, as a way of testing your knowledge of the subtle difference between shut and open
e475b7 No.16362981
>>16362335
It's in my game, when did he remove it?
02376e No.16364898
>>16362981
Patch of april 12th, on PC. You on switch?
6efa70 No.16364913
I wanted to buy this game, but the dev is a cuck that constantly retweets that fucking attention whore rami from vlambeer and sjw shit, so fuck him.
590651 No.16365035
>>16315002
Please feed the newfriend
000000 No.16373877
HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES
000000 No.16373944
HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES
000000 No.16374031
HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES