745ee8 No.16305337
Calling it now, cheapest HMD in the market at release
749a43 No.16305345
Are there any good VR games yet?
5c2c2a No.16305351
>>16305345
Valve is apparently making a Half-Life VR game. I imagine that will be a launch title.
5c2c2a No.16305370
The leaks from last year are officially legit.
dfafbf No.16305372
>>16305331
>>16305370
It's.. fucking adorable. It looks like a cute robot head with two little beady eyes.
a5007b No.16305396
Why dont they just kill of VR in its entirety? Its one of the most stupidest gimmicks, I keep seeing (((companies))) still pushing this shit even though every fucking time it fails.
WHY DONT THEY JUST FUCKING STOP?!!
bb7ac4 No.16305400
inb4 that one anon starts sperging about VR being a jewish ploy and posts his shitty OC pic.
b7bd7c No.16305407
>>16305400
VR is a jewish ploy
4fb57a No.16305427
If they make it cheap with inside-out tracking, I can see it taking off, I got 3 headsets for dev-work Vive, Dell WMR, and PSVR and the WMR is easily the cheapest of the 3, with better resolution and all internal tracking, so after a long day of wage-slaving, I can just slap it on and fuck around, instead of dealing with cables and shit.
919e29 No.16305430
when the fuck will they announce a videogame?
5c2c2a No.16305433
From what little we know about Valve's upcoming games, the apparent VR HL game they're making is rumoured to take place before HL2 with Alex as protag.
If they do a FO3-style intro where you briefly go through your childhood, we might see how Dog was built. Most underrated character in the series if you ask me, I like cute robot characters.
9b58d5 No.16305450
>>16305396
VR would be fine if they focused on porn. It's not good for much else.
ae8401 No.16305455
>>16305331
>VR
This is still a thing? I thought it would die off like 3D displays.
a84197 No.16305466
>>16305430
Never, seeing how badly Artifact failed
14c0a5 No.16305484
>>16305337
The same thing was said for the VIVE and the VIVE PRO here back then.
10327b No.16305504
Valve won't be able to get VR to work where everyone else has failed, just like how Google won't get streaming to work where OnLive failed. Doubly so because they have demonstrated so very clearly how incompetent they are. At least they don't have to break the laws of physics like Google. Although, arguably, they do have to come close given current technology. VR is basically Star Citizen. The people who buy into it are exactly like Star Citizen backers.
>>16305345
No.
>>16305455 (Checked)
It's not. It has died off. When marketing people talk about how much the "industry" is "worth" it's not based on actual sales. The number of people who own a real VR headset is minuscule. No, a phone that's "VR capable" doesn't count before any "anons" jump in.
745ee8 No.16305508
>>16305484
Yeah I guess I shouldn't underestimate how corporations can be
f816a2 No.16305573
>>16305337
>Calling it now, cheapest HMD in the market at release
Maybe they got the clue that nobody wants to drop $500, not including a new graphics card, and re-arrange their living room - and have seen the market run away with low-end sets like PSVR and PhoneVR scams. From what I hear, with Sony internalizing PSVR2, there has been talking of releasing official drivers for the more simplified device on PC when it releases. The idea being to try to push more units by giving it more utility, and to head Microsoft's hololense integration into Xbox One 2, which will also be available on PC. Steam is probably just looking to get their foot in the door before it fully closes.
Considering how expensive a decent headset is - they really need to just form a consortium and standardize the whole fucking thing like USB, so a prospective customer can just buy a single decent unit and use it on everything… rather than face the prospect of an extra $500+ dollars per platform if they want VR support across all of them.
2ef969 No.16305590
>>16305504
>The people who buy into it are exactly like Star Citizen backers
Don't overexaggerate, VR is practically a scam but its nowhere near a cult.
21dcc9 No.16305646
>>16305433
If you CLANG'd dog would that count as beastiality?
a95d58 No.16305650
>>16305433
>VR HL game
Are they still making that?
3a6897 No.16305662
>>16305504
>Valve won't be able to get VR to work where everyone else has failed,
VR hasn't failed, it's just that almost nobody's really trying on the software side. The technology works and you can make fun, unique games with it but almost everything is either shovelware or a tech demo.
5c2c2a No.16305695
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>>16305646
He's a robot. He doesn't even look like an animal, let alone a Dog. Alex probably just called him that when she was a little girl.
099ee3 No.16305697
If I got money to burn and already got the PC, is it worth it to jump into VR yet.
21dcc9 No.16305703
>>16305695
He used to be a dog shaped robot, but Alyx kept adding to him. My question still stands! Is robo-beastiality a thing? Is robo-pedophilia a thing?
d14d58 No.16305706
but there are no good VR games
df091b No.16305715
>>16305697
the water is warm, anon, jump in
745ee8 No.16305744
>>16305697
If that money really is up to burning sure, there's some amusing stuff out there.
5c2c2a No.16305773
>>16305703
>He used to be a dog shaped robot
He was built out of a salvaged city scanner, though. His really early concept art depicted him as being far more humanoid.
>Is robo-beastiality a thing?
Yes, a lot of furfags make ungodly robot-fursona abominations.
>Is robo-pedophilia a thing?
I assume so.
607da7 No.16305782
It's gonna be a failure and Valve will go down as wasting an entire 10 years on fucking nothing.
dfafbf No.16305789
>>16305773
One's that little creature Alex has on a leash?
14c0a5 No.16305840
>>16305450
> It's not good for much else.
It's pretty good for simulators. So DCS, Car Sims, Elite. AND DEFINITELY PORN The way they went about with making VR alongside motion controls makes it pretty shit IMO.
5c2c2a No.16305848
>>16305789
That's Skitch, one of the many cut aliens from the series.
She never made it past the concept art phase, that photo is the only known image of her and her species. Alyx's pet eventually became Dog and the idea of an alien pet was recycled with Lamar.
While most the aliens were scrapped early on, some went as far as being fully modeled, textured and animated before being scrapped.
b883b5 No.16305858
>>16305782
It is quite amazing how Valve has been blowing money making projects then dropping them instead of actually trying to them stick.
578f22 No.16305912
>>16305396
VR would be fine if you could just replace a traditional monitor with a headset that gives you more FOV.
>move crosshair outside of fov, fov shifts to crosshair
>move headset to look away from crosshair
That's all you have to do to make a decent VR game.
Fuck full motion controls, fuck VR rooms, fuck that gay shit.
eb2c40 No.16305914
>>16305706
What would be a good killer app VR game that you can't do with a monitor, mouse, and keyboard?
>>16305901
>eternal anglo
>Germany
wat
578f22 No.16305919
>>16305848
And most were scrapped because that's how kikes respond to leaked information.
9e2f1e No.16305924
I got a vive and the major thing holding back VR right now is motion sickness. They need to find a way to minimize it. Due tot he fact that it's such a huge problem, most games don't have free movement and you gotta do the move to the pointer type movements.
f816a2 No.16305946
>>16305912
That's literally all I ever wanted from VR. Just the games I always play, in the way I always play them, just with head tracking and stereoscopic 3D. All this "immersion" chasing bullshit is killing the potential of the industry because they're trying to sell half a grand in hardware on tech demos and shovelware. All that immersion shit is neat for about 15 minutes, and then you look around and wonder "Ok, but where are the games at?".
c853c0 No.16305947
>>16305396
VR is actually pretty cool, but no one has really figured out how to design for it yet and make it cost-effective.
9be596 No.16305976
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>[WIP] EmuVR - Multiple Games (60fps)
>NeoZeroo
>Published on Nov 24, 2014
83101b No.16306013
>>16305400
<inb4 that one anon starts sperging about VR being a jewish ploy
>entire thread is about a jewish man selling his VR ploy
wdhmbt?
9ee12d No.16306022
>>16305331
It appears to have cameras on the outside for inside-out tracking, which is nice because it means you don't have to set up a bunch of cameras around your room. If the controllers aren't bunk and the specs aren't third rate then I might pick this up over an HTC. Giving money to Steam might be sacralige, but it sure beats giving it to (((Facebook))).
>>16305337
Possibly. The new Oculus headsets are set to move at $400, but with financial support from a library of VR titles under their belt Steam could possibly afford to sell their headset cheaper.
a42826 No.16306023
>>16305337
Calling it now, it's going to $2000 for the cheapest model.
3d3e79 No.16306055
>>16305396
Stop being retarded. VR is a stepping stone, nothing more. As more and better body immersion tech becomes available we'll eventually hit an event-horizon where reality and simulated space will become, if not indistinguishable, so close as to not matter. Then the true downfall of civilization will begin.
Imagine being able to fuck anyone/anything you want, kill torture and destroy whatever you desire. Every wish fulfilled and every sense satisfied. Do you think you, or anyone else for that matter, can stop that? Nothing can stop that. And it will be glorious.
5eb6a4 No.16306060
>>16306055
and valve is already working on that, brain-computer interfacing.
they just had a gdc talk on it too.
bb7ac4 No.16306066
>>16306013
>a jewish man
You can call valve shit and a scam all day, but it doesn't make gabe newell a jew.
f816a2 No.16306099
>>16306060
>and valve is already working on that, brain-computer interfacing
That shit has been out for a while now already, and FYI, it's a pain in the ass to use and you can forget about any sort of precision inputs. It's kind of like trying to control a video game by telling somebody on the phone which buttons to press, except instead of telling somebody - you mentally focus on an object or phrase or whatever your selected "input" thought the program is calibrated for.
Handy for disabled people to get absolute basic computer interface capabilities. Useless for anything else aside from click-bait headlines.
5eb6a4 No.16306107
>>16306099
You're working on the idea that the technology won't advance, and that the many people studying/working on it fucking daily for however long valve has been at it means they've been doing fuck and all. They abandoned half life 3 to figure out a way to put a chip in someone's brain to get more out of it.
At least look into the subject before you just make an immediate assumption on the future of an entirely "unknown" subject like this.
eb2c40 No.16306113
>>16305976
>zoom in
>enhance
>virtual CRT's virtual phosphors
Holy niggers
eb2c40 No.16306124
>>16306107
>You're working on the idea that the technology won't advance
It isn't, clown world won't last that long.
f816a2 No.16306127
>>16306107
I'm not saying that the technology won't improve.
I'm saying that it's currently shit, and Valve ain't going to be the ones to improve that. Not at a reasonable consumer pricepoint, and even if all of that happens - you're just going to be remapping traditional controls onto selective thought patterns. You'd need games that actually have entirely dedicated control schemes designed around it to have any chance at all of being intuitive - and then you're right back in the same fucking mess as VR with a neat piece of tech, but nothing to use on it but demos and shovelware trying to sell on novelty.
5eb6a4 No.16306142
>>16306127
That's another point i meant to put in actually, (((we))) don't *know* were it is right now according to gabe.
With the way the ultra jew puts it, they have advancements we can't put our heads around until they actually show us. "it's farther along than you think".
83101b No.16306154
>>16306066
>You can call valve shit and a scam all day, but plz no call me jewish. ;(
f816a2 No.16306159
>>16306107
>to figure out a way to put a chip in someone's brain
THAT will never happen. Not in your lifetime, anyhow. No insurance company in the world is going to cover such a risky and elective surgery just so you can play fucking vidya, and the first time someone gets an infection and it kills them - the company making the tech is going to get litigated into oblivion.
That shit is radioactive for all but the most extreme cases of severe disability, where tech companies themselves are willing to foot the bill for the surgery, and with a shit-ton of waivers that take away basically all rights to seek restitution if they fuck up and kill the patient.
5eb6a4 No.16306169
>>16306159
>THAT will never happen. Not in your lifetime, anyhow
hey if nintendo can convince 30 year old manchildren to put cardboard strapped around a tablet to their heads, i think valve can handle convincing people to drill a hole in their heads to fit a chip in their brain when they figure it out. never underestimate people with a lot of money and time. they did that to elon musk and look were we are now.
eb2c40 No.16306177
>>16306159
>No insurance company in the world is going to cover such a risky and elective surgery
Anon, before you get 5 replies of webms of people paying to get their dicks chopped off, I salute your naiveté.
bb7ac4 No.16306179
>>16306154
He's not, you can look it up.
1f1038 No.16306182
>>16306066
He sure acts like one though.
a42826 No.16306184
>>16306073
Valve made Artifact cost 20 bucks. They don't fucking care. They'll make what is supposedly the best headset ever, make it cost $2000, then no one will buy it and they won't understand why, and will still have Steam shekels.
3a6897 No.16306224
>>16306159
>No insurance company in the world is going to cover such a risky and elective surgery
https://archive.fo/wO53I
If trannies can find someone willing to do imitation futa surgery, that anon can find someone willing to build a brain-computer interface into his skull. It may not be a good idea now, but I can guarantee that people will be doing it before it's a good idea.
f816a2 No.16306230
>>16306177
Gender Dysphoria is a mental disease recognized by the DSM as a medical condition, of which reassiagnment surgery is one of the proscribed treatments for, not to mention fetishized by the media and financial owners of the country.
Vidya does have that same luxury. It's downright vilified. You think anybody is going to look kindly at the "alt-right incels and gamegaters" trained on murder/rape sims turning themselves into cyborgs - and thinks that's something that's going to be allowed to be promoted in society? People that just want to chop an arm or a leg off and get a prosthetic can't get coverage for the procedure either. They have to do things the old fashioned way and run themselves through a bandsaw or something and hope someone helps pay to stitch them up and give them a hook.
Pic related. Bitch believed she was meant to be blind all her life, and couldn't feel right in a body that could see. She had to find a unscrupulous doctor and pay him out of pocket under the table to pour bleach in her eyes. Her insurance wasn't about to cover that shit, nor would any reputable doctor touch it with a mile long pole.
And, in the case of vidya, you have to have to have enough people actually able to get that implant to sustain an industry of development. Recreational trans-cranial implants are not going to happen anytime soon.
84e871 No.16306237
47726a No.16306242
>>16305976
is there any download for this, i want to try, i don't care about discord server to get a download
bbb4e4 No.16306246
>>16305450
VR would be great for horror games.
eb2c40 No.16306257
>>16306230
>Gender Dysphoria
pushed by jews
>injecting chips into yourself / "transhumanism"
also pushed by jews
It's that simple.
5eb6a4 No.16306264
>>16306257
As interested in this as i am, i'm never taking any of the implants. It's exciting watching the potential downfall of humanity as a whole.
I'd like to help excelerate it too if i can.
f3140e No.16306286
>>16306264
I can see arms and legs and possibly eyes too for people who lost those parts in accidents. But to willingly slice off parts of your body is tantamount to loss of humanity.
eb2c40 No.16306289
>>16306264
Me either and I think if that things get to that point (I doubt it, clown world's days are numbered) it'll be a pivot to the same group of weak faggots that would cut their dicks off and kill themselves later anyway, after more of them finally figure out that that isn't a great idea.
f816a2 No.16306297
>>16306257
>Implying a homebrew transdermal implant, basically a more retarded version of a common piercing, is at all in the same ballpark as transcranial implants that require you to crack the skull, difficult to remove and treat in case of infection, and are designed to allow direct outside input into your brain.
Holy shit, that's a reach.
eb2c40 No.16306302
>>16306297
>implying the entity in charge of the Talpiot Program doesn't want a killswitch in everyone's brain
It's really not, kikes fantasize about that shit openly all the time.
544758 No.16306347
>>16306292
you can stop shilling for vr anytime
4dc990 No.16306477
>>16305331
I'm not willing to give money to Valve
32ffce No.16306523
>>16305573
> This is your brain on Gommunism
VR that isn't 80's pipe dreams is coming and you want me as a hot-blooded american company to 'standardize'?
Today's standard is old.
This headset is going to be old news inside Volvo's R&D the day it releases.
Grab a pint, say cheers, then back to making it better, cheaper, faster, stronger.
Tell normalfags Caveat Emptor on the chink shit, but there's no holding back a company wanting tto improve it.
92a5ee No.16306580
>>16305504
Not fail but straight up gives up or leaves it unfinished and let the community do their job for them as Gabe always do.
47da6d No.16306620
What are the different layers/tier of VR? My surface layer understanding is going from the minimal amount of immersion/VR to most would be:
>HMDs
<just the display with standard controllers or keyboards
>VR handheld controllers
>hand/finger tracking
>foot/whole-body tracking
Are there other subtleties I'm missing?
9ee12d No.16306732
>>16306620
Dissect HMDs and learn the different types of
>Lenses, whether they're LED or OLED, one panel or two, resolution per eye, and whether or not the lenses can be adjusted
>Fields of view
>Refresh rates
>Built in speakers and/or audio dongles
>Built in microphones (if any)
>Inside-out trackers (if any)
>Built in eye tracking (if any, very few do)
That's all you really need to know. Hobbyists tend to gas on about head strap shapes and weight, but I haven't used a headset long enough to tell whether or not it's comfortable to use for an extended period of time. Some headsets are standalone and from what I've heard they're all shit. It's hinted that this Valve headset as well as the upcoming Vive Cosmos can be connected to both PC and act as a standalone, but to my knowledge there's no headset that can do both.
0e434d No.16306741
>>16306073
>You need
speak for yourself faggot, I never got motion sickness while playing my friend's Vive. I even knew a guy who got his hands on an oculus dev kit and played the Valkyrie demo on it, it was fine. I wouldn't recommend playing for more than about 2 hours at a time though.
70e7c4 No.16306764
>>16306242
There is a download link, but you'll have to get into their (((Discord))) server for it. Find it yourself.
ac0f62 No.16306765
>>16305370
>The leaks marketing stunt from last year are is officially legit.
ac0f62 No.16306783
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16305912
Something like Blinky Quake on a 21:9 curved display would be cool.
9ee12d No.16306784
>>16306777
Yup, and Gabe said that if you made a top end headset for $20 then people still wouldn't buy it. But yet, here we are.
c01145 No.16306797
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Looks like the headset will have a discount if you buy it with a new game
ac0f62 No.16306799
>>16305480
Anyone got the vrchat video where a guy with an alien player model sticks is finger up his ass and sniffs it? It was relatively early on during the start of the ugandan knuckles thing.
66faaa No.16306800
>>16306777
They're thinking of rubbing 2 random programmers together to see if anything comes of it.
1e5588 No.16306805
Will it work on Windows 8.1/7/Linux or does it need Windows 10?
ac0f62 No.16306812
>>16305695
Zero-Point Energy Clit Manipulator?
>>16305848
The Cremator's head made it into the game, sealed in a jar in the laboratory in Black Mesa East. Eli will comment on it during a brief window while you're free to poke around. The Crab Synths also made it into the final game, but they're only seen from a distance, moving along a conveyor in the Citadel during the ride up to Dr. Breen.
9ee12d No.16306831
>>16306805
No one knows yet. (((Oculus))) seems to be the only headset that requires you to update to Windows 8.1/10. I believe HTC headsets run on 7 and I'm not sure about linux.
973d7c No.16306836
>>16306805
You're better off on W10 if you get VR. I updated because Virtual Desktop can't support multiple monitors on W7, but in general VR everything tend to be finnicky and removing OS issues from the equation is for the best.
4dc990 No.16306853
VR, like Steam/paid digital distribution, is just another way for the industry to get more non-gaming casuals that don't play games without easy access or a gimmick to start playing games so they have more pigs to extract money from.
9be596 No.16306865
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>PREMIERE | Blade & Sorcery - Official Update 5 Trailer
>Premiered Mar 25, 2019
fdc551 No.16306884
>>16305345
Good VR games? No. Good games that incorporated a VR mode? Yes. Basically any flying or racing game that has VR support is amazing. The only reason to ever play Elite Dangerous for the VR shit.
Which is the main flaw of VR right there. It only works worth a shit in a context where the user has an excuse to sit down and use joysticks/steering wheel type objects instead of moving around and using what ever wonky paddle things the vr set comes with to represent grippy hands.
b7bd7c No.16307103
>>16306523
He obviously meant that they should make a standard communication protocol between the HMD and the host device, not make every vendor implement the same features in the same ways
69d41c No.16307146
I'm still not over Valve trying to make the demand that all HMD manufacturers had to make steam mandatory for the headsets and resulting in all those WindowsTM MixedTM RealityTM headsets.
b3f576 No.16307153
>>16307146
Using SteamVR/OpenVR is still better than developing yet another set of drivers for yet another company's products.
69d41c No.16307156
>>16305646
DOG has human level intelligence, and is only really mute. It'd be like fucking someone with a disability.
69d41c No.16307158
>>16307153
Yeah but Valve are fags and there was literally no reason nor justification for gluing everything to steam.
It's Ironically, the same retarded mistake they made with the steam controller by sticking it to steam and only allowing control rebindings for software launched through steam.
e45df9 No.16307179
>>16306865
That looks ___fun.
b7bd7c No.16307218
>>16307203
What's that first video?
77dd15 No.16307287
>>16307203
>4th webm
Holy shit I can feel the nausea
3986cf No.16307309
>>16305840
Simulators themselves are gimmick for niche audience.
69d41c No.16307315
also anyone here that thinks VR is the NEW ONLY WAY TO PLAY A GAME AND WILL CHANGE GAMES FOREVERTM are more deluded than gabe with his cerebral fucking bore.
It's a niche
64634b No.16307318
>>16307309
Same thing goes for pretty much any genre that isnt AAA trash.
69d41c No.16307323
64634b No.16307325
>>16307323
Oh yeah tell me about how RTSs are going to be the next fortnite buddy.
3986cf No.16307331
>>16307318
you probably need to read definition of niche
69d41c No.16307334
>>16307325
Buddy, I know fortnite is the newest shit there is, but you'd have to be retarded to not acknowledge that RTS games had been on fucking everything and everywhere around a decade ago.
Hell fortnite is wearing out it's luster and is turning into diet garrysmod as they're running out of ideas.
c1c8e1 No.16307337
>>16306159
Maybe I am late to the party, but cutting edge neural implants don't actually go inside the skull. They are safely introduced via catheter in one of your arteries, and then placed in the base of your skull, but not inside. Apparently, this is being tested in DARPA so soldiers can mentally control drones, so it probably is, at the very least, ten years away from commercial use, but it's still closer than nanomachines.
69d41c No.16307338
>>16307334
Actually it was more like, a decade and a half, but my point still stands.
64634b No.16307342
>>16307338
Yeah, no doubt those were good times, but as you mentioned 15 years ago.
Anything that isnt super successful gets mostly ignored by the mass market and becomes a small footprint in this shit industry that would rather copy the newest artificial hype trash.
b3f576 No.16307343
>>16307331
No u. Simulators are doing reasonably well as a genre, there were more major releases in the near past than there were RTSes. If you're going to say simulators are niche, then so is just about everything else except hyped up normalshit flavor of the year and AAA releases.
>>16307338
>my point still stands
>about 15 years ago, when the size of the videogame market was like 20% of today
69d41c No.16307350
>>16307342
>>16307343
Just because you redefine what being niche means doesn't mean you can suddenly declare very mainstream games into being niche, you dumbasses.
That'd be like me saying Quake 3 is niche.
9d6e3a No.16307354
Motion control is the future of gaming.
64634b No.16307364
>>16307350
>mainstream
You talk about "redefining" words but call a genre that hasnt been touched by any mainstream studio since over a decade mainstream.
And how the fuck does quake have anything to do with this ? Its a standard FPS, probably one of the most mainstream genres next to 3rd person action rpgs.
RTSs didnt survive the transition to shitty console gaming and died in the mainstream as a result.
Even SC2 cant get any meaningful viewership despite Blizz trying their best to shill it, and SC3 is nothing more than a vague possibility.
0492b8 No.16307373
>>16307364
LOL. Broodwars streams on AFREECA.TV regularly get over 100K viewers.
3986cf No.16307380
>>16307354
Obviously wrong. It limits character capabilities to physical performance of fat gamer slobs. Who wants such? Game are about power fantasy about doing impossible in life things.
>>16307343
>Simulators are doing reasonably well as a genre
as niche genre.
5c2c2a No.16307386
>>16307380
>Game are about power fantasy about doing impossible in life things.
NORMALFAG GET THE FUCK OUT
4c50fc No.16307390
>>16307364
I know who Serral is, who the fuck are the rest of those guys and why do I suspect that none of them are very good
9ecc7d No.16307398
everything VR related is indie game nobody cares about (not enough to even have cult following), tech demo or shovelware
supposed AAA production is even not compareable to regular games
its gimmicky hardware until theres something to actually play, this is NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANY TIME SOON
Valve again (what, is this like 6th attempt?) is fucking around with hardware instead of working on games, its sad
bd5ff0 No.16307492
>>16305662
This is the core issue. There are a handful of worthwhile and fun games, but there's also a lot of garbage from low-tier one-off developers who are trying to make a quick buck off an emerging platform.
Most VR games are also overpriced compared to non-VR counterparts, and precious few of them have long-term replayability.
865316 No.16307510
>>16305695
why is there no good porn of alyx? Most of it is just shitty GMod poses or art that gets her proportions all wrong. the only decent one I can think of is where she's getting fucked by the vortigaunt while trapped in a barnacle
865316 No.16307515
2765fd No.16307516
Vr is only good for porn or for weeb simulators where you can be your waifu and headpat other degenerates.
9ecc7d No.16307558
>>16307510
fuck off fakefactory
5d8fa4 No.16307563
>>16305370
>>16305331
>Valve still investing millions in VR when the market died
As laughable as Nintendo cardboard VR is. Nintendo probably produced the only profitable VR headset. It’s only the ((Investors)) keeping VR alive at this point.
9ecc7d No.16307569
its stupid fucking movement limitations and motion controls will kill it off completely once they actually try to make games for it that are enjoyable beyond 5min gimmicks
3d7658 No.16307574
>>16305337
Not possible unless they can undercut the Lenover Explorer. Great headset, only flaw is obviously wires and more importantly that the wands don't track very well when they're out of sight of the headset.
c4abcc No.16307577
>>16305396
I would like to see it being used in actual games, instead of shitty first person gimmicks.
Playing GTA in thrid person, lookin at the character in front of you and the world around like if they were action figures moving, with the floor level in your chest, would be pretty cool.
VR is great, the games made for it sucks.
3d7658 No.16307593
>>16307577
I just hate that all the first person VR games being based on stupid shit. One of the earliest VR games I can remember is Job Simulator. Who the fuck would want to play that? Who in their right mind would want to relive their time flipping burgers just because "Oooo~, VR shiny!" we didn't even get a barely decent VR mecha pilot game until last year. VR devs have all their priorities fucking twisted and that's doing more damage to VR than the immaturity of the technology.
64634b No.16307637
>>16307593
gee its almost like making a proper game takes more time than putting a few shitty low poly props with basic interactivity into a small room.
Who would have thought ?
bae3a1 No.16307651
>>16307203
>1st webm
I'm disappointed he didn't shove her into a wall or on the floor. What a wasted opportunity.
8ce311 No.16307670
>>16305331
Space combat and racing sims are the only games I would use a VR headset for. That being said, I've yet to find games worth playing with one strapped to my face.
3d7658 No.16307710
>>16307637
Devkits were out for like 3 years before any of the consumer sets were. The fact that it's taking this long after the consumer release for these games to come out shows just how fucked things are.
dd5455 No.16307769
>>16307710
Development of VR games wasn't going to start in earnest until there was actually consumer adoption.
c4abcc No.16307814
>>16307593
I usually ignore everything with "simulator" in the name, and I am 100% sure I'm not losing anything of value.
7eede8 No.16307846
>>16305450
>It's not good for much else.
What are simulators?
c4abcc No.16307871
>>16307846
Trash. A good term to put on Steam filters. Easy way to make money from fools, either by producing it, or by making youtube videos.
e88c2c No.16307881
7eede8 No.16307885
>>16306264
>i'm never taking any of the implants
>not installing free as in freedom implants
anyway, me neither i would just use a computer thingy just like predator.
b7bd7c No.16307908
f957b4 No.16307939
>>16307908
give me a few minutes
f957b4 No.16307954
>>16307885
>>16307908
10k years in ms paint
5c2c2a No.16307959
>>16307908
>>16307939
>>16307954
Loss is reddit shit at this point to be honest.
b7bd7c No.16307964
>>16307959
Did you know redditards also breathe?
cf590a No.16307968
>>16307964
Yes, you can watch them breathe through their mouths pretty well.
dfafbf No.16307984
>>16307968
I never got this, how else are you meant to breathe? My fucking nostrils are always inflamed.
55bca0 No.16307991
>>16307959
The fact that Reddit has join in with making fun of Bum Tickley does not deter me
5c2c2a No.16307992
>>16307984
Do you own a cat?
dfafbf No.16307996
>>16307992
I don't see what that has to do with anything, but yes
55bca0 No.16308001
>>16307996
You're probably allergic, dummy
5c2c2a No.16308019
>>16307996
You're probably allergic and nasal blockage is probably how your body copes with the constant exposure. If you notice you can breathe fine outside then you should get anti-allergy medication.
b7bd7c No.16308022
>>16308019
Or just give away your cat
a125b5 No.16308048
Why does nobody improve on the powerglove for VR?
b9d2fb No.16308090
to know exactly how successful motion controls are
look at Kinect (xbox) and Move Motion (ps4),
even Nintendo made theirs OPTIONAL and returned to controllers
its already failed
and nerdy bullshit will never make them magically succeed when it doesnt even work in the mass market
b9d2fb No.16308092
and now they want you to suddenly accept these FAILED way to control things and strap a fucking machine to your head (soon it will read your mind too)
WHY? who in the regular world would play games like this?
b9d2fb No.16308099
same with Googles Stadia
you will NEVER be more efficient than local hardware
ITS IMPOSSIBLE, theres ALWAYS latency with long range communication
b9d2fb No.16308101
you can create greatest algorithms and game engines in the world to get this shit running but local hardware will always be better because it doesnt need it
745ee8 No.16308108
>>16308092
>>16308090
>>16308099
>>16308101
Write everything in one post you fucking newfag, you're taking the thread closer to bumplock for literally no reason.
c4b2d9 No.16308116
>>16305345
Beatsaber.
Got VR a few months ago and it's literally the only thing I still use it for.
>>16308099
>long range
>4 meters worth of HDMI and usb3
Imagine being this tard
d6161a No.16308131
WHY THE ABSOLUTE FUCK IS RESIDENT EVIL 7 NOT VR ON PC
IT'S LITERALLY (AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS INCORRECTLY) THE ONLY GOOD AAA, FULL LENGHT, ACTUAL GAMEPLAY VR RELEASE, YET CAPCOM REFUSES TO MAKE GOOD ON THEIR PROMISE AND ADD VR SUPPORT ON PC, WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK
>>16307959
It isn't, but spoiling the joke and immediately asking if something is loss to show everyone you got it sure is.
ac1807 No.16308135
>>16305370
How do these things work for people with glasses?
f806c9 No.16308139
>>16308129
> If I just say "the Jews", I don't need to actually make a point
ac1807 No.16308143
>>16305427
Yeah, but WMR is locked to wangblows 10.
f806c9 No.16308157
>>16308150
I said no such thing. "The Jews like it" isn't an argument, though. The Jews like potato pancakes as well, but it doesn't make potato pancakes bad.
Transhumanism and implants have worrying implications, but you have to actually make a point. Just saying "the Jews" makes you sound like a retarded parrot who is incapable of independent thought.
d6161a No.16308159
>>16308135
old ones had about enough space to place your glasses inbetween the headset and your face, I don't know about newer ones.
>>16307996
get that cleared up with medication or by giving away your cat ASAP, mouth breathing is terrible for you, your mouth doesn't filter air, it doesn't warm it up, it doesn't self regulate nearly as well which fucks up your brain oxygen balance long term and makes your jaw weak giving you that weakling mouth breather look.
f806c9 No.16308299
>>16308167
> It's bad because it's bad. Also Jews. Prove yourself wrong for me please.
Brilliant approach.
745ee8 No.16308336
>>16308147
You know as well as I do if that becomes a thing the first thing people are going to do is put her hand on their dick.
1be8cd No.16308431
>>16307203
>>16307218
seconding this, whats the game?
745ee8 No.16308443
>>16308438
Poor Colin doesn't deserve a son like that
0bef09 No.16308449
>>16305331
Riding a dead horse.
290d08 No.16308454
>>16305433
Muh stronk wymyn protagonist.
5c2c2a No.16308466
>>16308454
That wouldn't be the angle at all. Nobody said that with Chell in Portal.
I fucking hate SJWs for ruining this shit. Their autistic identity politics have ruined female character because now everybody assumes it's for diversity reasons.
290d08 No.16308472
>>16306783
Why the fuck don't ALL first person shooters do this? It's so obviously superior to the usual way.
865316 No.16308510
>>16308454
This was before that was an issue, and Alyx makes up for it by being an all around cool(ish) person (as cool as a woman can be, that is)
Ignoring HL2's retarded AI, she could've been a lot worse. The game isn't constantly reminding you that she's a strong wemyn, she pulls her own weight, and isn't particularly ugly either (probably around a high 6 to mid 7)
3264d8 No.16308555
>>16308466
>wait over a decade for a continuation of gordon freeman's story
>get a prequel about alyx instead
>t-there's no agenda, goy
5c2c2a No.16308562
>>16308510
Alyx is a half-black half-Chinese female video game character. If that was in a game from 2019 it would instantly be called out for obvious diversity pandering, but she just happened to be that way back in 2004.
865316 No.16308575
>>16308562
I thought she was half-black half-white? Her mom in the photo looked white.
5c2c2a No.16308580
>>16308555
>what is Blue Shift
>what is Opposing Force
Side games with different characters aren't anything new.
5c2c2a No.16308590
>>16308575
I think she's Asian, at least. It's hard to tell from the photo.
a42826 No.16308610
>>16308580
Did Blue Shift and Opposing Force come out in 2010?
865316 No.16308615
>>16308590
>looking for more info on her background
>find this
who the fuck
616096 No.16308617
>>16308575
No, she's Asian. It is cheap political correctness however. Valve being a west coast developer were eager to signal.
a42826 No.16308662
>>16308617
Didn't they also want to give Alex a deaf boyfriend to virtue signal too?
396a77 No.16308665
>>16308662
For some reason a deaf character sounds neat, though. Not sure why - probably because I can't recall it ever being done before.
745ee8 No.16308685
>>16308615
>Happy that black people are a part of the cast and everyone gets along with each other despite of race
>Upset that "ethnic subcultures" aren't a thing
All of humanity has been enslaved and is being genocided, why the fuck does he think black people are going to give a shit about their heritage as another human subspecies
2fb340 No.16308698
>>16308617
>>16308562
Valve got leeway because Alyx wasn't an obnoxiously anti-white and anti-male character who wanted to own conservative allegories plagiarized from Twitter hot takes, she's a normal person who is just anti-Combine.
865316 No.16308719
3264d8 No.16308774
>>16308580
>ignores how long the wait for HL3 has been
Who gives the slightest fuck about Alyx by herself? Fuck off with your weak excuses.
b6b960 No.16308925
i think that motion sickness is a lie, i have fun in VR daily, AMA
9be596 No.16309262
>>16308431
>>16307218
found it
Virt-a-mate
865316 No.16309281
d6161a No.16309283
>>16308925
what do you play, do you use vorpex? do you know where I can pirate it? how powerful is your pc
54d704 No.16309319
>>16307637
But you can still make a fucking game using said basic interactivity. You don't have to use it to make ironic meme games which end up making the price you ultimately paid for them look like a fucking joke.
I mean fuck, you can do that without even needing the game to be about picking up shit. We know there are decent game genres that work with VR, just make those games.
1be8cd No.16309586
>>16309262
thank you my man
69d41c No.16310486
>>16308685
>All of humanity has been enslaved and is being genocided, why the fuck does he think black people are going to give a shit about their heritage as another human subspecies
Well, if you want to be realistic here, in america at least, most of them are totally enslaved to their political leaders in their jurisdiction, and they're still completely stuck on the idea of "Black/African" culture they're totally removed from and occasionally not even part of
cfcf9d No.16310508
>>16308131
>capcom refuses to make good on their promise
it was psvr exclusive to begin with and sony renewed that license. not trying to say it isn't shitty or scummy but i mean, this news was available even before the game was released
4e466d No.16310556
>>16306099
If you thought 2d screen based autism was bad you aint seen nothing yet
b6b960 No.16310668
>>16309283
pavlov all day every day, i don't know what vorpex is therefore i don't know where you can pirate it, 8 cores 4 GHz CPU and 4GB DDR5 GPU
f8f810 No.16310680
f876be No.16310693
d6161a No.16311798
>>16310508
but Capcom never mentioned the possibility of a renewed exclusivity deal, the explicitly mentioned it was going to be a "one year exclusive"
>>16311239
some people, me included get over it slowly, and I suspect a lot of people who keep complaining about it have simply not tried it enough.
10327b No.16311863
>>16310680
Half-Life 2 episode 3 first though, surely?
a42826 No.16317986
New rumors from good old Tyler. Somehow not April fools.
Really, it's from leaked Steam pages that have been removed since.
>gonna be announced in May 1st
>gonna (maybe) be released in June 15th
>Needs Windows 10 as a minimum
<will launch with no games
9ee12d No.16321915
>>16317986
>Needs Windows 10 as a minimum
Immediately dropped.
a42826 No.16321921
>>16321915
It's not surprising. I said when they stopped XP support that 7 was coming soon. This is step one.
d752aa No.16321926
>>16317986
>windows 10
you know what's good about this?
it'll drop the price of first generation vives even further to a possibly affordable price.
a42826 No.16321928
>>16321926
Why would it do that if all the fluff will most likely make it the most expensive headset on the market?
a9825c No.16321934
>>16317986
>>Needs Windows 10 as a minimum
Have a feeling that's gonna be changed or is placeholder, unless it really makes use of DX12 VR APIs. Valve still gives support for Linux with Vive, too and I still doubt that will change with Index.
2ca7a1 No.16321935
File: f2c18ef760343ef⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 188.09 KB, 846x1131, 282:377, __quote_doukutsu_monogatar….png)
>>16305433
>I like cute robot characters.
2c86b2 No.16321946
>>16306055
>he thinks there has been any actual technological advances since 1980
a42826 No.16321947
>>16321934
Considering how low the userbase is for non-Windows platforms, they most likely did not mention it. I'm sure Linux will be supported, but Windows 10 being the only Windows version supported is quite likely, I think.
d752aa No.16321951
>>16321928
I don't think you understand that most if not all vr games are made for the vive, if new games make it there fine whatever, but i have a lifetimes worth of other VR games to comb through.
9ee12d No.16321953
>>16321921
There's fan made drivers for this kind of thing, but the fact that these headsets don't support lower firmwares natively is reason enough to avoid them. At least there's the upcoming HTC headsets to look forward to, they've usually got better specs anyways.
a42826 No.16321973
>>16321951
I understand that, yes. But the only reason to drop prices is something is to compete. If Valve's headset ends up being the most expensive on the market, all it will do is it will make the Vives look better by comparison, price wise.
>>16321953
If only there were any fucking games. That's why people were excited for this Valve headset, they were hoping for Half Life VR.
As it stands, fucking Labo VR is the best option as it's the only one that came the closest to justifying its price. The one literally made of cardboard.
2c86b2 No.16321977
>>16321964
>implying all this wasn't already invented and deemed degenerate by our superior antedilluvian hyperborean ancestors
67335d No.16321980
So the Index will actually release in June, the May date on the Steam page is actually the date they'll dump all their info. Why not just give all the info now? It's not like there's any real purpose wait a month after they've already announced it.
>>16321935
>android
0/10
f1a30f No.16321995
>>16305433
>I like cute robot characters.
f1a30f No.16321999
>>16321977
Whatever madman invented the Finno-Korean Hyperwar is great for a laugh.
No content in the post violated any rule.
You mean 1960, right? All inventions in EVERY industry are derivative of designs initially drawn up no later than 1960.
67335d No.16322014
>>16321995
I meant mechanical robots, not human-like ones.
Posting on a new IP so don't mind my ID being different
cb3a44 No.16322018
>>16305331
>>16305370
>round notched fresnel lenses
>no side/down/back facing cameras
Its wand tracking area gonna be utter shit, it will have standard FoV, and it will have strong godrays we all love and cherish (not). We'll see if it can deliver superior resolution to WMR headsets, which I doubt, and if it will be any sort of affordable, which I also doubt. You could argue that it was better than WMR if it didn't require Windows, but it doesn't work on any other OS just the same.
cb3a44 No.16322028
>>16321995
>create normal humans
>call them robots
Grorious nip character design, 10/10.
607da7 No.16322031
>>16322018
>and if it will be any sort of affordable
Gayben said that reducing the cost is the last step in the equation. Valve's high on their hubris still, a software flop (Artifact) will be mild deterrent. A major deterrent will have to be a hardware flop they spent nearly 10 years on developing. This thing launching at anywhere near $300 when you can get the most popular headset for $200 right now will be the only chance it has. I can see it launching at $450-550. Up to 650-700 depending on your options.
cb3a44 No.16322035
>>16322031
$5 says it will be in vicinity of $1000, or above, for complete package.
67335d No.16322039
>>16322031
I've seen people who are more familiar with VR saying it'll probably launch in the range of $1000-$1200. Valve is going for the hardcore enthusiasts, which might be a bad idea this early into VR's life.
607da7 No.16322047
>>16322039
for a project they're attempting to flagship it'll be disastrous. People still see VR like the Wii was in 06-08. A novelty, the difference is the Wii was a $300 novelty that the family could enjoy, a bit of a craze too. VR had a small craze honeymoon, it died years ago, and now it's only saving grace is having some games. There's a few, mostly novelties like beat saber, an occasional fun looking one like astrobot, or at best, gimmicky ways to replay old games.
Valve needs to bring out the big guns if they want a hope here. I don't think they will.
f1a30f No.16322054
>>16322014
>>16322028
How about the alien robots, then?
f1a30f No.16322056
>>16322047
Valve sold all their guns to buy hats.
69d41c No.16322090
By the way, calling it now, it's gonna fucking be $388 without super pooper controllers as a budget model and gonna be too expensive for fuckin anyone but streamers and won't ever sell until it dies and they do the equivalent of the $2 steam link and Totally don't install emulators on it wink wink it works off steam now wink when it croaks
d752aa No.16322139
>>16322014
good taste non humanoids best
7c7f91 No.16322300
>>16306055
>civilization will collapse before full dive VR becomes even remotely viable
>I'll never get to hold hands with mai waifu
>mfw
when the day comes I will show no mercy
67335d No.16322314
96e617 No.16322732
>>16306099
>It's kind of like trying to control a video game by telling somebody on the phone which buttons to press
cf6a29 No.16322772
>>16322732
Why do I still remember.
b1611e No.16322855
>>16309319
it's almost like people are retarded, why do you think the most watched youtube videos have clickbait "OMG TORN ANUS - NEW FISTING CHALLENGE" titles and images?
> decent game genres that work with VR,
fps are a bitch due to motion sickness/shit controllers (funny enough psvr aim takes are of half of that shit, not gonna happen on pc soon tho), adventures/RPGs need fuckload of (good looking) content which means it's outside the scope of indie devs, sims depending how deep you wanna go down the rabbit hole is only for hardcore simfags (also needs fuckload of high quality assets), there's not much else unless you wanna go HMD + gamepad, and that's only half the experience.
inevitably you'll end up with social shit, and vrchat/rec room already exist (latter even manages to shit all over AAA/AA funded stuff), but normalfags won't pay $500 + pc tip just to be a loli with a manly voice collecting headpats. so the chicken/egg problem continues…
52e81a No.16323472
>>16305912
>>16305946
Its called TrackIr, its been around for years.
e75a98 No.16326783
That is awesome I suppose.. the future has already began and virtual reality is no longer news for anyone. We keep up with technical developments around the world and this is good news. As I know there are a lot modern VR development companies wich can provide such a services like Valve, for example https://servreality.com/augmented-reality-ar/ and there is no doubt it would be something special so I am waiting too much
a42826 No.16326791
>>16326783
How can it be the future of games if there are no fun VR games?
5753be No.16326803
lmao launch the vr headset as expensive as Vive Pro without games
good luck selling that
5cfd3f No.16327176
>>16311863
Portal 3 in a weird Combine-Aperture which ends up secretly being surprise Half-Life 3 with an amnesia plot, because immediately after Ep2 you got brain-sucked.
49458c No.16327200
Stop trying to make VR a thing. You are not fooling anyone.
5cfd3f No.16327203
>>16321980
They haven't prepared anything yet. They need to make store pages and bundles for everything, make a fancy trailer (and possibly game trailers), and they need to organize an event where they invite journalists to demo everything. Some time in April is when they take their company vacation to Hawaii so at least a week is lost to that. They probably didn't plan on doing an early teaser announcement like they did, but just couldn't pass up the opportunity to shit on Facebook and possibly reassure fans who were disappointed in their absence from GDC.
49458c No.16327576
>>16305345
Consider this: young people literally prefer gaming on a small screen because its comfy.
They prefer watching movies on a small screen. Their entire social lives play out on a small screen.
Buy more Apple and Huawei stocks.
0f7667 No.16327691
>>16327576
Wishful thinking, faggot. Banking your future on jew whales and women is why the world has 3x more debt than money to pay for it. Touch controls are way too imprecise compared to what even a console allows, not to mention the precision of m+kb. Get fucked.
c7c130 No.16328107
>>16327576
>They prefer watching movies on a small screen
I'm gonna need some sauce with that because I have never seen that to ever be the case.
09ef33 No.16328130
>valve
coming soon, circa 2040
5cfd3f No.16328152
>>16327576
HMDs are inevitably replacing all other consumer digital display devices and everyone actually in the industry knows it. And it's going to start being apparent sooner than you probably think. PC monitors will go first, phones next, and finally traditionally social-experience displays like bigscreen TVs.
>>16327691
>Banking your future on jew whales and women is why the world has 3x more debt than money to pay for it.
it's actually because that's just what jews do. that's what usury/currency is all about. everyone ends up owing the (((international financiers))).
>>16328130
Full reveal and orders open May 1st, shipping second half of June. 100% confirmed already. They've presumably already been manufacturing them for a few months at this point.
69d41c No.16328180
>>16327576
>young people literally prefer gaming on a small screen because its comfy.
No they do it because the cellphone company gave mommy another line and they got a phone which is cheaper than a computer.
It's the same reason why mobile gaming is even "a thing" (it isn't)
7936f5 No.16328194
>>16306797
Said it when the rumors about this were first murmuring, so I'll say it again.
Valve seems to be working behind the scenes with a VR dev team on a game demo called Boneworks that they claim is supposed to be really easy to work with for VR and is suspiciously similar to Source 2. This studio has already been working with the new headset and their knuckle-grip controllers. Of all the VR-demo rush studios that popped out of the woodwork when this first started, they are widely considered to be one of the only ones that made actual games. Valve also recently fired 13 employees right around the same time Boneworks was announced, and Boneworks is on the same Steam masterlist Valve uses for their inhouse games, so I'm thinking they are VERY serious about opening up the VR market.
My guess? Affordable headsets and a framework for devs to make actual games instead of demos. Think of it like the console market. Most console manufacturers take a LOSS on the unit itself, it's platform exclusivity that makes them the money. If Valve is selling headsets with games made in VR compatible with those headsets, but taking queue from EPIC so the VR market is only on their platform, then Valve might be dropping the price far below other headsets. And seeing as Epic can't even be bothered to offer a shopping cart on their store, it's an easy guess they won't be able to compete against affordable VR should a miracle happen and someone actually makes the VR-killer app headset owners have been waiting for for four fucking years now. It's easy to keep saying the same "valve doesn't make games" meme until you consider that there is now actual market competition in town that they need to contend with.
5cfd3f No.16328674
>>16328194
The 13 fired employees (and mass dismissal of temp contractors) was almost surely the consequence of the Index and/or Knuckles final assembly line build-up being completed and triggering (perhaps till-then delayed) performance reviews.
>a framework for devs to make actual games instead of demos
Source 2 finally getting its full SDK is likely, and it probably has evolved a pretty strong focus on VR in the past several years of HLVR development. However, the connection to Boneworks you seem to be implying is very doubtful.
Boneworks is a very specific VR mechanics framework developed in Unity, for SLZs own games. Its announcement as it's own game was actually pretty surprising, as they had previously repeatedly reiterated that it was merely their testbed tech demo, and that they were working on three other games (a supposedly near complete 'Duck Season PC' flat version, 'Hall of the Machine King', and 'DeadFM' - not much is known about the latter two, some concept art they shared, boneworks-the-tech-demo seemed to use assets from both).
I think it is entirely plausible that Valve might have given them a heads up about Index launch plans in order to allow them to push through something using their 'boneworks' framework in time. Or even asked or contracted them to do so, possibly concerned about existing VR enthusiasts reaction to HLVR, which is reported to be an EXTREMELY mechanically conservative, slow-paced, teleport-only game. And the result is Boneworks-the-game, which is essentially a mash-up of their other works in process.
353c1c No.16328677
>>16328192
VRChat seems to be the only reason to own a VR headset and it's still a shitty meme chatroom.
f816a2 No.16328924
>>16328180
Can't speak to young teens, but a lot of kids are getting hooked on mobile phones I think - because it's the closest to an arcade experience we have these days. So many games take a while to get into. Tons of lengthy cutscenes that just dump exposition on the player, often lots of reading, step-by-step hand-holding and lengthy tutorials which funnel you into a set of actions rather than just letting you discover through play… kids don't have that kind of focus, and a lot of them can't handle losing because their parents always coddled them rather than teach them how to deal with feeling bad and turning that into resolve to do better. And games are so plentiful and cheap and easy to access these days - that they don't generally feel they have to stick with a handful of games and get better at them. They can just breeze along until they meet the slightest resistance, and then pop in a different game. Which I think might explain part of the popularity of minecraft - since it's non-competitive, has little in the way of PVE/PVP challenge, and there's always something else to fuck off and do.
Mobile games, similarly, are designed to be plentiful (with the free-to-play standard), easy (usually just requiring a few clicks and waiting), and they get that immediate and rapid-fire dopamine rush of having accomplished something. Couple that with most mobile games being so low requirement that they can be played even on ancient phones, and the constant pressure on mommy and daddy to upgrade - means they have a glut of old "gaming" hardware just handed to them as literal junk for them to destroy.
And as these kids get older - they're going to bring the tastes and conditioning that mobile gaming has shaped them with into the rest of the gaming industry… or, they'll just fuck off and keep playing mobile and gaming will die back down to a more niche market.
69d41c No.16329070
>>16328924
You're putting too much thought into it
59271f No.16329240
>>16305433
The only one telling all this garbage about HL VR starring Alyx is Tyler and he's retarded. It even sounds terrible. There's no reason to believe that Valve—however pozzed you may believe they are currently—would ever make a Half-Life game starring someone other than The Player (aka Gordon Freeman).
e75a98 No.16329476
>>16326791
they will be. soon or late it does not matter
f59e88 No.16329636
>>16328924
The lower the average IQ the less nice things we can have. God, I hate niggers more everyday.
92d701 No.16329671
How hard will this bomb? are they releasing games with the headset or no? Will VNN kill himself?
0ba4a9 No.16329739
>>16329671
Pretty sure his plan was to go to nintendo if valve completely pisses him off
aa3d93 No.16329753
>>16329671
>are they releasing games with the headset or no?
What makes you think it won't run every SteamVR game currently on the market?
607943 No.16329757
>>16321977
Still more accurate than history taught in University.
d2fd81 No.16329775
>>16327691
>why the worlds has 3x more debt than money to pay for it
That isn't why. There is so much debt because money is lended to countries when it is printed at interest. Which means there is absolutely no way to ever pay it off, because there will never be enough money to cover the money lent + interest. It is a jewish con.
b7b705 No.16329953
>>16309262
>the head slam on the second one
5cfd3f No.16330034
>>16329671
Yes, at least one, 'HLVR'. Probably two or more.
>>16329739
Tyler is legit an obsessed fanboy who sincerely believes he can beg his way into working at Valve as their first and only official dedicated 'community manager'. His plan is as it's always been, to finish his schooling and move to Bellevue to beg at their doorstep. It's sad because he may have even had a chance to get into Grays company at some point (or may still), but he's fixated on Valve, which will almost surely simply never have him.
9ee12d No.16330042
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>>16329671
If Valve can't meet Oculus's specs/price point then they won't break even. Aside from name recognition, Oculus has two headsets launching at an affordable $400 aimed at both the casual (Quest) and pc casual (Rift S) market. If the Index is a high end headset that launches with a $600-$800 price tag, it needs to either meet or exceed the specs of current gen HTC headsets. Even then it's going to be a hard sell since HTC is teasing the Cosmos which claims to be both PC and mobile ready.
f816a2 No.16330128
>>16330042
It's probably just going to be on par in price and quality as Microsoft's line of outsourced Mixed Reality goggles, likely because MS has the infrastructure to potentially make a standardized VR platform - especially with all of this talk of unifying the Xbox and Windows divisions - and Gabe wants to get there first.
Those things are about $400 on average, but since there's a bunch of manufacturers, they tend to go on sale a lot.
5cfd3f No.16330184
>>16330128
>>16330042
Valve is doing things entirely differently from everyone else in almost every way. They're making absolutely as much as they can in-house, to entirely original designs based on their own R&D, using 100% automated production facilities. Contrast everyone else making almost exactly the same HMD (and literally the exact same controllers) in Chinese sweatshops. They're optimized for scale production with a distinct lack of differently packaged bundles, and all the major elements of their VR system (knuckles/index/lighthouses) sold and packaged separately.
Trying to guess at final consumer price for the Index HMD itself is a fools errand right now, when we don't know the panels or cameras specs (probably the two greatest component costs), but we have a pretty good idea that Knuckles will be ~$100-200 per pair and lighthouses $50-100 each (at least one required, two recommended).
7e9ac8 No.16336546
005d45 No.16338777
>>16330128
I got this headset for under $200 and am actually very happy with it. Tracking is good, picture quality is acceptable, and it's compatible with everything I have tried. If any anons are interested in VR and don't want to spring for a Vive or some shit, I'd take a look at these.
d6161a No.16338819
>>16338777
>requires windows 10
Yeah, about that.
68c443 No.16338840
VR isn't gaming, it's just next-level larping for autists.
b39702 No.16338847
>>16329671
If Valve, a video game developer, release a first-party VR headset with no games then they are officially more retarded than Bethesda.
904084 No.16338855
>>16338847
>valve
>video game developer
>more retarded than bethesda
nice try todd
b39702 No.16338865
>>16338855
JUST FUCKING BUY MY GAME YOU LIMP-DICK FAGGOT
904084 No.16338868
>>16338865
you're not funny faggot kill yourself
68c443 No.16338872
>>16338847
>Valve
>a video game developer
Last video game that Valve actually made themselves was released 12 years ago.
d6161a No.16338879
>>16338855
Todd's right though, bethesda's evil, sure, untalented too, but stupid? nah, they know exactly what they can get away with, unlike Valve, if they dare release another headset without games.
b39702 No.16338881
>>16338872
>12 years ago
8 years ago, Portal 2.
Not that 8 years is any better.
If they're seriously pushing for VR without making games, then what's the fucking point? They're putting a whole lot of effort into this. Gabe has said in the past that he wants Valve to be more like Nintendo with how they make first-party software for their hardware.
dfafbf No.16338884
>>16338855
>>16338868
>toddpost
>somebody toddposts alongside you
>UR NOT FUNNY FAGIT
???
904084 No.16338886
>>16338879
Can we really expect a company that hasn't been motivated to make games in years to force themselves to shit out a good vr game for their hardware? the idea of valve just becoming a steam and tech innovation company first doesn't sound bad in the slightest. Every other triple a company is already putting their hat in the ring of shitty sequels and releases as it is. Valve excluding themselves is the best outcome at this rate. Anyone expecting valve to put out a good game at this rate is just downright retarded and uninformed.
68c443 No.16338933
>>16338881
>If they're seriously pushing for VR without making games, then what's the fucking point?
Personally, I think Valve should go fuck themselves no matter what they do here. They'll either have no games to go with their shitty headset, or they'll suddenly become actual game developers again and pretend that they weren't monumental cunts for the last decade or so.
5cfd3f No.16339167
>>16338881
>>16338872
DOTA2, The Lab, and Artifact. DOTA2 and Artifact are garbage but The Lab, while not a 'full' game, is absolutely top-notch and should've put an end to doubt of Valves continued development capabilities.
The meme of pretending certain random Valve games 'weren't REALLY made by Valve because … ' (they weren't personally made solely by Gaben, is the gist of it) is big gay.
b72e82 No.16339723
>>16305337
>Calling it now, cheapest HMD in the market at release
You'd hope that was the case, meanwhile HTC vive was too expensive and was outsold by the PSVR
Makes you wonder why nintendo is pushing Labo VR by integrating it with Mario odyssey and botw. Even if its just cinematic mode and not FPP (first person perspective)
But i digress, Valve has a issue given they need a killer app to sell VR.
b72e82 No.16339732
>>16329739
>>>16329671
>Pretty sure his plan was to go to nintendo if valve completely pisses him off
Yep, plenty of money being a switchtuber, valve has a cult like fanbase with modders but lets be honest, that hasnt been a good valve game to mod since portal 2
T. Valvefan
b39702 No.16339768
>>16339732
What the fuck is that face Banjo is pulling? It's a quick edit away from looking like cropped furry porn.
>inb4 it was already furry porn and it was edited to look like he was playing vidya
8d9a22 No.16339788
>>16330184
>Valve is doing things entirely differently from everyone else in almost every way.
pretty sure part of their design is open or cheap af to license, right now it just needs more market penetration - good luck tho with htc going full retard with the vive when price is one of the THE most important parts of the package, hence people settling with rift's bitch-ass "roomscale" or inside-out tracking.
if valve is smart they take a slight loss and go from there (in the end I much rather have valve be the biggest player than the zuckerjew or the fucktards at microsoft)
>>16338886
>Anyone expecting valve to put out a good game at this rate is just downright retarded and uninformed.
except valve always needed just enough people that wanted to do it. shitting out a slightly extended tech demo and call it game is much easier to do than MUH HL3 people are still whining about over a fucking decade later.
not to mention if valve goes their usual route of letting the community create the content and just take a fee.
b7bd7c No.16339793
>>16327691
Nonsense. Every debt is a credit on the other side.
5cfd3f No.16339921
>>16339793
Nope, (((Central Banking Systems))) issuing (((usurious loans))) of (((fiat currency))) based on (((fractional reserves))) of their actual cash-on-hand literally creates incalculably more 'debt' than credit.
The hypothetical credits are totally retained inside the (((banking system))). It's a racket.
b7bd7c No.16339948
>>16339921
The banking system holding credit does not annihilate it. Also, the way you type makes your text unreadable
5cfd3f No.16340036
>>16339948
>The banking system holding credit does not annihilate it.
It does, for everyone but the bankers.
b7bd7c No.16340040
>>16340036
>oy vey goy, your credit should be mine too
Not falling for your tricks, Shlomo
49ae44 No.16340156
>>16328194
>>16328674
The headset going on discount to promote the VR as a platform (with valve leading the charge) is possible. Valve has the cash to take the hit. Epic is just a AAA exclusive platform with no features so it would be a strong shot across the bow.
However this implies Valve is able to plan this long term, invest in studios and evolving hardware, and not be the usually flat org fuckups they tend to be. If this is more a Steam initiative then it may have a shot or crash and burn like steam machines.
650c8a No.16340183
>>16317986
Has anyone gotten VR to werk in Lunix through Wine+DXVK?
8ce311 No.16340202
>>16340183
According to ProtonDB, yes. VR does werk on Lunix.
dc3a27 No.16340913
Anyone who really wanted to make videogames wouldn't want to work for Valve right now.
fea13a No.16340925
>>16340183
Nah, I'm waiting for OpenXR
f57689 No.16340938
>>16306302
Okay, prove it.
5cfd3f No.16341089
>>16340925
Valve is a major code contributor. It's going to be essentially brand-stripped SteamVR, anyway.
dc3a27 No.16341182
>>16305433
Jesus Christ give it a rest. People have been talking about Half-life VR for years.
dc3a27 No.16341200
>>16305703
Robo pedophilia? There is an anime for that.
162f3a No.16341221
>>16341187
>Reddit comics
Nigger spooge monkey. There was no standards before hand. You see barely no one using DirectX over OpenGL and Vulkan now. Standards work.
5753be No.16341233
>>16341221
delusional
everyone is still using dx11 for fucks sake
97db47 No.16341237
>>16341187
That comic gets posted everywhere, but it's not universally applicable. There are tons of standards that acted to heavily unify things and stabilize APIs. Remember how many fucking different kinds of serial cables there were before USB unified things? It doesn't make much sense that he says "character encodings" at the top, when before Unicode (primarily UTF-8 encoding, that is), we had the clusterfuck of code pages and you couldn't fucking tell what codepage was used by the document in question without some sort of metadata attached to it (like the codepage meta in HTML).
It's doubly not applicable because VR doesn't have any sort of standards to abide by right now. OpenXR will be the first major standard in the field (there are open APIs and SDKs, but those aren't standardized right now).
650c8a No.16341242
>>16341221
>You see barely no one using DirectX over OpenGL and Vulkan now
f6e8a8 No.16341255
>>16305703
The disgust of fucking animals and children are two-fold: wasting your seed and being no better than a filthy animal or abusing children, respectively. For the latter, robots trump the disgust since robots are just objects instead of beasts and any sex robots that look like kids are made to be fucked and also probably have no rights to life and subsequently consideration. In a world of robots i have no doubt that some people have animal and human child robots to shove their cocks in, and maybe in a world where robots are commonplace there may be some level of disgust for people who do such things, but it's certainly more acceptable than the living creature alternatives in the here and now. You aren't fucking anything you shouldn't, you're just masturbating in weird fucking ways.
65bce1 No.16341280
>>16305396
imagine playing racing games with a steering wheel, pedals and gears or flying a fighter/spaceship with a joystick in VR you brainlet nigger
seeing that you are a weeaboo cuck know that theres 3d wive/pedo simulators for you as well
VR is the fucking shit
the only problem is its expensive
fea13a No.16341298
>>16341221
>>16341242
DirectX 12 was a massive flop, everyone's switching to Vulkan instead.
e943bb No.16341304
>>16341187
Naturally someone posting XKCD wouldn't know what they are talking about.
The Khronos Group is behind Vulkan, WebGL, and OpenCL. All of which are widely adopted standards. The fact that their standards are high quality, open source, and made by people in the industry improves how widely they are adopted.
Pic related is all of the OpenXR contributors. You can see this includes every single major VR headset manufacturer, Graphics Card Manufacturer, Processor Manufacturer, and many of the the biggest players in video game engines.
dc3a27 No.16341314
>>16341304
Open source works because corporations love free shit. Its why Android is Linux based.
cc950f No.16341348
7633a2 No.16341377
>>16341314
Trying to stifle competition by creating proprietary standards only works for so long. Eventually someone will put together an open standard that will quickly outpace your closed technology. Might as well make your crap as an open technology to start with.
650c8a No.16341402
>>16341304
What are the chances of a desperate Macrosoy coming in at the last second with their own proprietary DXVR standard which is a copypaste of openXR with some custom WMR extensions?
The current VR driver+framework landscape seems somewhat akin to the 3D accelerator market in the late 90s.
e943bb No.16341505
>>16341402
I would say the chances are extremely low. Everyone knows about EEE and wouldn't let Microsoft get away with it. Adobe knew about it in 2006 when they didn't like the licensing Microsoft was pushing on them to get PDF's into Office. I grantee everyone in the consortium knew about it when they were discussing OpenXR. It's in Microsoft's best interests to play nice here and just make the standard the best it can be rather than try to undermine it. OpenXR is on version 0.9 and has had a provisional release so that they can get feedback from developers for improvements. If Microsoft was going to do anything we would hear about it. Instead we see Microsoft playing along.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/mixed-reality/openxr
407c1a No.16343667
>>16341237
>Remember how many fucking different kinds of serial cables there were before USB unified things?
and let's not talk about the different protocols…
>>16341505
>Everyone knows about EEE and wouldn't let Microsoft get away with it.
>windows 10
>windows store
>uwp
>directx 12
it's still the same old shit, only saving grace is that microsoft in most cases is way too fucking late/lazy/just plain stupid. google is a much bigger thread in that regard looking "nice" on the outside, but is more focused on other things than desktops (although we're slowly going back to ie6 hell with chrome being used almost anywhere and firefox getting microsoft levels of retarded)
ba0e80 No.16344074
>>16343667
That reminds me, isn't the original xbox plug just a weird usb Plug?
92d701 No.16344346
>all these meme VR games
Is there any VR game that just puts you into the cockpit of a mech/fighter plane/attack helicopter or a tank?
9fc173 No.16344855
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>>16344346
plenty, cause it works quite well for "moving around but not running" while just sitting somewhere. otoh it can give people severe motion sickness depending how extreme the movement is and how used to it they are (like reading in a moving car).
pic related never
b5dae7 No.16345417
49d50d No.16345793
>>16343667
Today I will remind them.
a42826 No.16346246
>>16343667
Reminds me of how when they released USB 3.1, they retroactively renamed USB 3.0 to USB 3.1 gen 1 and the proper USB 3.1 to USB 3.1 gen 2.
Then they released USB 3.2 and now have USB 3.2 gen 1, gen 2 and gen 2x2.
c7625a No.16346277
>>16345793
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) finally unifies all protocols AND power transmission into a single, reversible port. Unfortunately, Intel decided to make the port extremely fragile.
061ff1 No.16346281
>>16305372
I got a HTC Vive like 3 months ago. Should I sell it and upgrade?
a42826 No.16346288
>>16346277
I don't even get how it can be some fragile. It goes both fucking ways and yet the most common failure for the Switch aside for water damage is the USB-C port not working.
2c5f08 No.16346374
>>16305331
They're a bit lad to that fad like usual, VR died awhile ago.
b39702 No.16346411
>>16346281
If the leaked stats are true, it will be the best VR headset on the market. However, statements from Gabe make it sound like it's not going to be cheap. It might launch at over $1000, so the choice is up to you.
417f80 No.16346569
>reviewing what the content of most games is
>reviewing what the content of that one most popular one is
Perhaps religious extremism is not so bad.
5cfd3f No.16346743
>>16346411
The leaked specs are that it's using very standard 1440x1600@90hz LCD panels, with any unique graphical capabilities coming from its optics (Valve has patents for both SDE and lense aberration/artifact mitigation techniques), which are said to give a 135° FOV.
It is very hard to guess the price of the HMD, because we don't know how expensive these optics are to produce (possibly quite cheap?), or what other features it may also have.
cc950f No.16358944
https://youtu.be/35QvyaRn6OY
Listen at 13:55 to16:50
>Gabe's son talks speculation
>index may get BMI interface addon
>explains the expansion capabilities we see in the leaks
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6124b0 No.16358956
>>16305573
Partially this.
I don't want to spend $500+ for something I'll only rarely use, and I don't need tron-levels of VR. I just want a headset that I can wear while using my keyboard and mouse and pretend I'm shootman. If google cardboard wasn't dogshit it could theoretically be a decent answer. Use your PC to stream to your phone/headset and just stick with a keyboard and mouse. Motion controls are a great gimmicks for some games like beat saber, but only hinder others.
745ee8 No.16359252
>>16358944
>Valve is going to read what's going on in your brain through a non-intrusive brain-computer interface
8bb75e No.16359496
>>16341314
Open source works because the collective autists cried for X and nobody gave it to them so they built their own and released it publicly.
Most companies don't like open source products on principle because they think it's a security risk/giving their competition an edge. Of course you still see Google and Facebook open source internal tools like Graphics/web frameworks probably to stop competing, independent standards from forming.
>>16341187
Ironic he talks about Tautology and then ignores it in another comic entirely. Of course after you make some new thing in Y set there are going to be Y+1 things. Many open source products start out at just core functionality on purpose in order to refine one thing really well among fanatics. More to the point, it's less often you see new standards, unless there is something NEW to standardize because the 10% of SW developers that build new shit hate working on stuff that's already been solved. Unless it's something like Typescript, in which case it's just for people who fundamentally misunderstand a problem and want to scaffold band-aids onto it.
>>16340925
It will be a wonderful day when Source 2 is opened and this is out so those hobbyists modders can continue the great work.
7da6fc No.16359796
>>16346374
Isn't VR still going strong due to the porn?
3a05e1 No.16359819
>>16359796
Anon said in a thread 4 years ago that VR would be a stupid fad and die within a year, if they accepted that VR is still alive now it'd mean they'd posted something stupid.
5cfd3f No.16360375
>>16341242
it's true, anon. Vulkan killed DirectX12 so hard that it probably killed the entire line (and that's fucking great). All corporate game development is done using OpenGL or Vulkan, and Linux as the primary targeted platform.
904084 No.16360555
>>16358944
>timestamps comment says its too uncomfortable for him to go on timestamping the entire conversation
man if this mentality is the large portion of our current 20-30 some year old population we're not going to be ready for BI at all. Reading the comments just makes me wish for the AI overlords to take over already.
745ee8 No.16360644
>>16358944
Actually listening to the entire thing now it makes it sound like we're a decade away from full dive-in VR
It's scary as shit
f816a2 No.16361614
>>16360644
Neuroscience is still a fuck of a long way off from understanding the brain in a high enough resolution to provide anything more than the most basic input/output. If you focus all of your attention and focus your mental state on visualizing the letter "A" - they can tell you're thinking about the letter A. But they couldn't pick it out (or put it in) to a paragraph you're reading. Or, say - the color red… they could tell you're thinking about the color red, but they can't tell the color of an apple if you're thinking of an apple which happens to be red.
The most advanced consumer-grade EEG controller on the market can't tell if you want to go forward, or up, or attack an enemy. You have to focus your mind on a concept, doesn't matter what it is but it helps enormously if it's visual, and the unit will map your brain activity and then assign that state to a input (like up). Even then, if you're outside of baseline (inebriated, agitated, caffeinated, groggy, etc) - it can completely fuck the calibration.
It's really just a novelty and an accessibility tool to provide the most basic input level for the severely handicapped. And that's not going to change until both the monitoring technology advances and we have a far, far, better understanding of how the brain actually constructs thoughts and handles motor coordination. And even THEN - as said before - nobody is going to want to touch the liability of an input directly into the brain, even transcranially. There's regions you can disrupt with magnets that will completely fuck your ability to make moral evaluations. So what happens if there's a bug in the hardware, or it's improperly seated/calibrated and some kid snaps and kills his parents because they got on their case about playing too many video games? Even if the device wasn't at fault and it's just the kid being a psychopath - people love their technological monster stories and panic/outrage porn. You really think anyone is going to listen to reason before demanding a ban on such devices, or that the company pay out a huge liability either to the family or to a foundation allegedly set up to oversee the ethical development and safeguards to the technology? Nobody wants to deal with that shit, and no investor in their right mind is going to want to put their money into something so potentially volatile. Shit, they already put warning labels on video games now telling you to fuck off if you're prone to seizures and denying any responsibility if they cause your brain to short circuit and you bite off your tongue.
49ae44 No.16363182
>>16361614
True, the understanding of the brain is limited as fuck. However it is getting better and better.
I think the deep emotion, thought, and conceptual parts of BMI is a far way off. 22nd century way off. Those systems are deep in the brain, complex, and hard as fuck to record. Memory for example is sorted in more than one place in the brain depending on many factors.
However i/o is not that hard.
For output, most of the motor cortex is on the surface level of the brain, meaning it can be easily read. It is also a well studied part of the brain so there is resolution when mapping to controls. Also I have no idea why we are not just listening to the spinalcord and motor neural networks. They are not as protected as the brain and have been well mapped.
For input. Oddly enough a lot of the areas of the brain that process sensations are surface level on the brain. Audio, and sensation are almost against bone. Visual cortex is a problem. But you can just focus on where the eyes meet the brain and hijack the signal. Again, targeting the neutral system outside of the Brain will be much easier. Why beam a sensation into the brain when you can just trigger a nerve and let the brain interpret it for your benefit?
If you are letting the brain do the work for you, you can get away with a lot more. If you tell your brain via the sensation receptors you are being jerked off, then put images of an anime that is moving her hands into your visual pathway. Your brain is going to construct a reality where you are having a good time with your waifu.
215fc9 No.16363564
>>16305450
>>16306055
These are both terrifying prospects.
>>16306805
If it supports SteamOS then yes. Valve has been pushing Linux.
>>16327576
>feed the machine
No faggot, burn it all down.
9ee12d No.16371782
Somebody found the Oculus Quest safety video from data mining the Oculus app today.
b39702 No.16378571
695901 No.16378751
i just dont see any good vr games
beat saber looks like a flash game from newgrounds
cc950f No.16379517
>>16378751
Then you are not looking hard enough. Lots of shooters out there, a know if an MMO that is going strong, and then you can just dive into VR porn.
I will admit there is lots of gimicky shovelware out there. But that is modern gaming anyway.
9ee12d No.16381367
>>16378751
Other than first person shooters and tank/airplane sims, you're mostly correct. VR is still in the hobbyist phase despite what all of the major developers are saying and is currently being funded by the same group that invested in dial up modems, by a bunch of perverts and furries. Most of the "games" for VR are currently porn and what can be best described as playable experiences. If none of those sound interesting to you then I'd wait another couple of years before getting a headset.
53ab97 No.16382918
>>16378751
define "good"
>>16381367
companies have been paranoid about funding risky projects for over a decade, you seriously expect them to budget millions for games that only have a niche install base? the only big ones are facebook (lel), sony for psvr and ubisoft of all people.
indies figuring out what works or not in a benefit in the long run, but indies being indies they simply don't have the money/manpower to do AAA amount of content or quality.
mods would fix that easily but we're in the worst timeline for that.
89af63 No.16384396
>>16305337
It's clearly going to have pancake lenses based on their logo.
It's going to have the largest FOV and least screendooring of any VR headset.
If it has eye tracking then it may become a must buy (foveated rendering).
89af63 No.16384412
>>16328194
>Valve seems to be working behind the scenes with a VR dev team on a game demo called Boneworks that they claim is supposed to be really easy to work with for VR and is suspiciously similar to Source 2.
You mean in Unity
>Affordable headsets and a framework for devs to make actual games instead of demos.
That would be Unity
Every time Valve pushes VR updates to the Unity Asset Store good things get made.
89af63 No.16384440
>>16322018
>round notched fresnel lenses
Don't think so.
4e1021 No.16385539
>>16344074
It was, you could snip the cord for the controller and another USB cable, just attach the same wires to replace the plug and it's USB ready. There are drivers out there somewhere for the og xbox controller
30343b No.16391277
>>16384396
>If it has eye tracking then it may become a must buy (foveated rendering).
What do you mean by this? If you're simply speaking for yourself, then sure, it'll be a must buy. But if you're talking about the general public, no way! look at the the cart in the lower left of >>16384688
you can see that only about 1% of Steam users currently use VR headsets. VR is certainly growing, but the Valve Index (headset + knuckles + etc.) will not be the iPhone of VR devices.
49ae44 No.16395237
>>16307203
Fuck fulldive VR is gonna be a blast.
Plz Gaben, blast all tge waifus directly into my hippocampus.