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>it's another party game Ys

At least I want to fuck that cat. And it seems like Falcom is taking more after Ao/Zero/Sen where 80% of your party are cute girls now

adol looks like a homo but i'd fuck the minotaur girl

>>16304635

>text on the card isn't rotated to fit it

I don't know if that was intentional, but it still adds to the joke.

>>16306032

your post looks especially funny next to that lovely Estelle ass

I hope Ys 9 will have authentic difficulty increases on nightmare/inferno, instead of just turning monsters into HP sponges.

>>16306721

Play Felghana. It's by far the best Ys we have. Anything after 7 is noticeably worse because of the increased RPG elements.

>>16306721

Honestly the only two Ys 1/2 versions I can recommend are the PC version and the PCE/Turbographix version. Those are pretty much the only two I can recommend, although I admit to not having played Legacy. if it's on the DS you can just emulate it though, no?

Also that third image is pretty fucking neat, where did you get it?

>>16306673

It all depends on how the bosses and enemies are designed.

There will never be true authentic difficulty in Ys again as long as bosses are designed with the player's ability to avoid all damage at the press of a button. Which I have no doubt is the case with Ys IX.

>>16306927

Ys stopped being for chads the second Adol stopped wielding shields. The true chad will forever be Ares.

>>16307020

>Ys stopped being for chads the second Adol stopped wielding shields.

Chads don't need shields to protect themselves.

>>16306943

It's not so much that as the gameplay is clearly and indisputably worse.

The skill system doesn't make sense if all it is is a better attack string and there are no opportunities for sick combos.

The party system falls flat on its ass because it's nothing more than three health bars and Dana's iteration of it(three forms for the same character, each form has completely different hit strings, passive abilities, interactions with puzzles, and while they share the same skills they all have different forms for it) was the undisputed best, since it brought true gameplay diversity while doing away with the shitty three health bar system as well as gimping an individual character's damage since all three characters should be at some point dealing damage to the boss.

The insane amount of materials and whatnot was literally fixed by 8's shop system which pretty much did away with Gold and brought back weapons and armors into clear tiers(yeah they had that useless "dodge vs pure defense" tradeoff but it's not like a stat change in the order of ~10 points is a big difference anymore, unlike the previous games) which require materials that you are showered with purely by going through the game, or doing raid/hunt missions, which brings the question of why have so many materials if Origin's Gold+ rare upgrade material is all you could possibility need.

Having access to MULTIPLE, commonly available healing items, all without a reasonable cap(I think 8 you can go up to 99 four different revive items) mid boss fights and mid fights in general means it's completely reasonable for the devs to think that having enemies one shot you or fuck a good chunk of your health away in the blink of an eye is reasonable because you can just heal up and revive at virtually zero cost. 8's true final boss is a fucking joke at this considering in the "dungeon"(more like corridor) before the final boss all enemies drop revive items and healing items by the multiples which is to make up for the fact that you can no longer have access to shops and the final boss kind of comes unexpectedly and after another boss that REQUIRES you to revive since it places emphasis on the rock paper scissors mechanic.

There's the rock paper scissors mechanic, which 8 practically solves by making it useless through the use of the break mechanic, where after the required damage type deals a bit of damage to the resilent enemy their armor breaks and everyone can deal regular damage to them. So all you need do is stick a break rate up item on a damage type you hate(in my experience it's anything that isn't Adol's type, although Hummel was neat), spam a fast low SP cost skill a couple of times and BREAK.

Finally there's Flash Guard and Flash move which purely fucks with every single combat design choice ever. Why have a 3D space and movement speed differences, different attack strings, different skills, whatever, if at the press of a button you can not only become invincible for a second, but also be granted the ability to either spam skills at an incredibly hihg speed or get crits on all of your attacks, or both since it's very easy to get both buffs at the same time. Why then, would bosses be anything more than

>slow wide close ranged swipe

>very slow ranged attack whose projectiles deal damage in a sustained damage over time area of effect

>camera moves for attack that prevents you from reaching the enemy while it's in progress(flying enemies flying far from reach while you're just sitting there like an asshole)

>Roar which pushes you away from boss

>Body was too long

>>16307024

Why approach any boss in any way that isn't press button, be invincible, especially since hitboxes are kind of wonky at times, or the fact that you can be one shot anyways? Why fight any boss without copious use of crits or faster attack animations since bosses have insane amounts of health? What good is a 3D world and jumping if you can approach every boss the same way because every way else is unwieldy or too slow? And there aren't even bosses where you are supposed to use actual movement, like sprinting or jumping to avoid an attack because every attack is pretty much a giant wall or a giant line that you have to flash guard or flash move. And it shows in the design, you don't get stuff like Origin's boss fights anymore where you have that sweet blend of fast rival "human" characters(those characters are either a joke because admist three characters doing flashy skills how the fuck are you going to see any of their attacks) or large bosses that tower over you and you get to climb on them and break apart pieces of them, dodge large sweeping attacks while simultaneously moving in to attack and reaching their weak spots and it was so fun and intense and neat and there's only one boss in Ys8 who comes even remotely close to that and surprise it's the optional boss for Dana's dungeon who zips all over the place and rarely has a dull moment. FUCK.

If there's one clear example as to how skills have ruined the games, it can be seen in just about any boss. In previous games, there was rarely a dull moment where the boss simply stares at you like a dope while you do all these elaborate, long animations because all of your damage lies in skills. In previous games, all of your damage is either magic, which is near instant, or your attack string, which can be cancelled at any time and felt like a completely natural extension of your moveset. Attacking and movement never felt like two seperate entities in previous Ys games, which they do now. If you have trouble understanding what I'm saying, consider one of the older musou games like Samurai Warriors 1. Consider how movement transitions into attacks which transitions into movement. Those are basically the newer Ys games.

>>16307023

I'm saying that because post Ys Seven I think, Adol's design stopped being this functional looking adventurer's armor and started being generic JRPG man with leather fashion.

>>16306667

Thanks. That's all I needed to hear.

>>16306075

I also enjoy the characters and their… development.

Yo, does someone have the image that compares the sora no kiseki versions across all the platforms?

>>16308959

Perfect, yes

Thank you anon

>>16312210

I enjoyed 7 for what it was. Yeah, it got real easy at times but I still enjoyed the little story they wanted to tell.

>>16312182

>They are the most hated games in the series for a reason.

your opinion is not the consensus anon, stop spouting bullshit.

>>16312182

Some part of me wants to hold out hope because while 8 wasn't still to the standards I hold a Ys game to, it was still pretty fun to the point that it took up all of my free time over a week just 100%'ing it and was an undisputed improvement over both 7 and MoC.

Part of me says fuck it, pirate it because NISA anyways and have fun instead of waiting on something that'll probably never happen again.

>>16313493

I doubt it. They don't need to.

>>16313493

Wouldn't surprise me since Kondo is already letting NIS' management fuck his wife.

>>16313847

If Kondo actually does the next arc in two games like he said he wanted to (and that's a big if), then the earliest you'll see it is 2020 and that's being generous. Assumedly the second part would be the following year in 2021. So I would say the absolute earliest Arteria could start if the games are exactly the way he wants would be 2023.

>>16313472

Thanks Anon. Your post wasn't deleted, I was just reading the previous thread on the archives, everything was like that. Aidios bless you.

>>16323994

Spin the opposite way the boss is spinning, hit the rocks and not the core.

>>16324033

he keeps pinning me into corners

>>16324082

I meant spin the same direction, not the opposite direction. Just stick to him and you'll outdamage him.

>tfw platined ToCS I n II on ps3

Idk if I should play them again on ps4… I kinda wanted the steelbook since the announcement tho

>>16330503

>tfw I got the Lionheart edition for 20 bucks

Feels good

>>16330586

>>16330503

I forgot to mention, you should be careful about supporting Soyny right now because of their extreme censorship behavior.

If you get the limited editions (dunno if this applies to Steelbooks or not because the cost seems unusually low for an LE sort of thing) that's better since they get almost nothing and it supports the developer/publisher a lot more, plus having more shit.

>>16337957

>because of their extreme censorship behavior.

So extreme that there are several games in Japan also left untouched in sexual fanservice

>>16338207

If "several" is the best you can say that didn't get ruined (yet) then yes it fucking is extreme.

>>16338207

is this a new meme where because some games weren't censored that means Sony's censorship spree retroactively wasn't that bad despite it being a laundry list? This isn't the first time I've seen some viral marketer "anon" push this.

Not that it matters, Sony virtue signalling over Super Seducer while pushing for Life of Black Tiger at the same time was more then enough to not support them ever even if both "games" are terrible. The rest is just a bonus.

Sage for off-topic.

>>16341582

The influx of Sony shills have me very suspicious. Being dismissive of censorship, its like they have no idea where they fucking are.

>>16343119

Given the fact he didn't come back to argue the point means he's a one and done. Hardly an effective shill.

>>16343779

I guess not looking like a leather fashion model is a massive difference. It's an improvement at least.

>>16343792

They way the talked it up it sounded he would be almost unrecognisable. It is kind of an anti climax when we finally seen him. Game still should be good though.

>>16343811

I honestly figured he was either going to be a furry or have a ponytail/beard.

Big weeb sale on GOG at the moment, with a lot of Falcom games on sale. They have Tokyo Xanadu on sale for $25 dollarydoos and I want to know what it's like.

I really enjoyed Faxanadu on NES back in the day, and I think they're tangentially related, but what does this modern weeb game play like?

Are we talking visual novel? Something like SMT, or Persona? Or more traditional JRPG with a modern setting?

They also have Gurumin Monster Adventure for $5 and it looks hella cute, so I'm gonna grab that too.

>>16345938

Tokyo Xanadu plays more closely to the Zwei games (same devs). Its clunky and imo not that good. The dungeon designs for the most part are straight corridors and the enemy a.i. is janky as fuck. The localization was fucked and progressively gets worse as the game goes on thanks to Aksys wanting to be "quirky".

I won't defend Sony but lets not pretend it isn't American SJWs who are the real problem. The US has a way of poisoning everything it touches sometimes and the rest of the world will just have to deal with it. At least Nintendo is still for Japs by Japs..

>>16346071

Sony isnt based out of Japan anymore, anon. The headquarters moved to california. Also, it isnt all of America that is the problem. It's just the coasts who think they can speak for the rest of America by being louder. Also our government is filled with old bastards and hags who are out of touch with technology and the internet. Sage for off topic.

>>16346071

I think that's pretty obvious. Sony got power-played by the American branch and Kaz Hirai stepped down right before (2 months) the time all this started happening.

>>16346118

California has too much power, and too many studios, publishers and game companies there.

Wish there were more in the midwest and Texas. Also that it was paid and treated better to incentivize higher quality employees because what we have now is shit, and understandably so since they're all getting paid pennies.

>>16346064

Well shit. Thanks anon, but the localisation shit killed it for me. You saved me some dollarydoos.

Is Gurumin any good at least? Or the Zwei games themselves?

I keep refreshing the news and xseed twitter hoping I'll wake up from this bad dream, but it's still here.

>>16352054

I just check this thread and have a good chuckle at the tipped hedorah. I do wish there were some more details on Ys IX and if NisA is porting CSIII on PC. I don't Twitter so I'm not sure if the cunts have said anything else but the only platform that's listed on their website is PS4.

>>16357193

From what I understand they've not shown anything new for CS3. Their last livestream included the same trailer they used to announce they'd be localizing it which to me screams they have nothing good to show. My hope is that I can at least get a good grasp on jap and import the game at some point.

>>16357200

Yeah I had a feeling there was nothing. If NisA never get around to doing even the shittiest of PC ports, I don't get to play it. They've really fucked me this time.

>>16357200

>>16357271

The only thing resembling news since announcement was about four of the voice actors confirmed being back in various ways.

Will the ps4 version have jap audio?

>>16357361

That was at least confirmed. French subs too.

>>16357361

For better or worse, NISA basically always does that.

>>16357469

Yeah I finished trails in the sky. Great stuff

>>16345938

>>16347832

Just grab Xanadu Next if you liked Faxanadu, though it's closer to the original Xanadu. Both Zwei!! and Gurumin are charming and fun, but the actual game design is kinda boring. Zwei II is one of Falcom's best Windows games.

Will Ys9 suck as hard as the previous three?

>>16307020

Reminder that Adol reached peak chad in Ys 7 where he could wield giant Dragonslayer-like swords that normally need two hands, in one hand just so he could wield a shield as well. And Dogi is very proud.

>>16307024

>>16307026

>>16307034

Ys 7 really feels like the end of an Ys era. Doesn't help that Adol's story in Ys vs Sora no Kiseki is the last he has Takeshi Kusao as his voice actor ever since he portrayed him in the OVAs and that it ends with him killing the Xanadu final boss as the perfect way to end his wacky adventurers by becoming the legendary Dragonslayer. Everything after that seems to be an overcorrection of video related in Ys form and a statement that now everything must follow suit in terms of how the story will be and the only reason it exists is to ease us on the new era.

>>16312467

I'm still mad we never got an updated version of Ys7 on the PSP with Boss Rush and a new difficulty to match the party system.

>>16362852

I really would like to strangle whoever thought giving the play an unlimited, spammable, resource free way to completely mitigate damage was a good idea in any way.

>>16363018

This was one of the death throes of Ys as a technical action game. Never mind how they decided to handle the skills after Ys 7, that killed everything. The funny thing is, they could still implement that as a magic spell that drains mana or something, separate from the SP to do the skills and be awesome. But no. Shit, they could have tied it to a magic system that would imbue skills with elements to further increase the variety in combat, kinda like fixing Ark's entire elemental swords idea.

>>16363630

The way I see it, Nayuta had the right idea. Sword skills that tie into your basic moveset, and then a qt fairy companion that gives you magic spells that are ranged attacks and level up with use. Tying melee attacks to skills means your basic moveset means diddly shit and so does any melee strategy that isn't "Spam hardest hitting skill, charged attack to regain SP, repeat".

And I don't see why guards are the way they are in the party system WHEN MOTHERFUCKING FELGHANA AND ORIGINS HAD A GUARD SPELL WHICH AT MOST GUARDED AGAINST TWO ATTACKS, DRAINED THE FUCK OUT OF MANA AND ALSO HAD BOSSES THAT HAD ALL SORTS OF DIVERSE ATTACKS FROM RANGED TO MELEE AND ALSO NEVER LET UP UNLIKE THE "big telegraphed swipe, wait 5 seconds, big telegraphed swipe, roar, big telegraphed slam" SHITFESTS OF THE RECENT GAMES

Ys 8 is being released for smartphones worldwide.

>>16373564

That's not a bad idea at all and it's a fucking shame they never got to capitalize on it with Tokyo Xanadu considering it was the same teams who made the games. The closest thing to a Nayuta sequel has been Nier Automata with 2Butt's and 9Shota's pod combat while fighting and dodging. And Falcom could have capitalized on that concept like P* did. Shame.

Went back and tested the skills on Ys7 and I think I remember how I steamrolled through the game : I tried dodging out of everything but you can't like you said and the charged attack is ass if you don't start with it or do the "attack a bunch, hold attack, dodge out, dodge in and unleash the charge" and repeat until you gain enough SP but I put all my long-ass skills on the team so that I could constantly switch in and out without penalty and while my Adol was attacking with the Pentagram I could babmboozle other with Geiss for example. That' s not saying that I excuse the system but it had an idea of ballance around the team which is fucking evaporated after Celceta where you gain all the fucking super bonuses without any sort of merit. And the reason i think this happened is due to P* games : I think what Falcom tried to do and appeal to the hardcores was create a system where they could gain beneifts from dodging like Bayo's witch time so that the game would be centered around the party and individuals but no game of Falcom's is centered around a thing like that, baiting and attacking super chunky foes so the whole thing makes bosses look like the regular angels of Bayo 1. There's an amazing layer of irony here.

I think they really need to go back to the drawing board when it comes to these things and think it through a bit, maybe have some characters with that ability only or don't let them be so Op and negate the type advantages if you still wanna keep them.

>>16374549

>no proof

>>16375728

>cuckchan screencap

>>16375904

here

https://archive.fo/Utt7I

>>16374549

Must be part of the Apple Arcade thing Apple put 500 million into.

>>16375943

This makes me genuinely angry.

Fuck Falcom.

I hate them so much

>>16375954

I'm not too concerned about it, it all comes down to the approach. If video games get fucked over for mobile that's one thing, but if it's an after thought then it's just like having Capcom port over DMC5 to the Switch. Another issue is if apple will make an effort to bring on a case add-on for the iPhone in order to promote Apple Arcade and strengthen mobile gaming as a platform to make it more like Nintendo's offerings rather than the games mom likes to play when she's waiting for the shopping clerk to fetch her dress from the cleaners.

>>16375954

Did you not notice the chink publisher and dev names dude? This seems far less like a "Hurr, Falcom shills out" and more off another case of chinks being utter niggers and the only way they can get games is either iphone or PC and in this game, chinks offered Falcom to port their games to the iphone and then make some Tencentbux by releasing it with spyware worldwide. It's probably lucrative to give the license and basic game for porting to Falcom so, they probably see it as a "sure, why not?" Like that other anon said, it's like when DMC4 was ported by Chinks and Capcoms themselves as "DMC4 Refrain".

>>16375963

Mobile is a cancerous platform

This won't make mobile good, it never will. It will just make Ys worse.

It should never have been done in the first place. You can't fundamentally change something that's roots were always cancer. Mobile gaming will never be hardcore, it will never not be predatory, and it will never be anything good.

We've only seen the decline of gaming in terms of quality in all sectors. Mobile was always shit, but its even worse than when it was more recent.

>>16375994

That's why I hate it so much. Falcom cares so little about integrity of their products now. Cold Steel already released with microtransactions up the ass.

The way I see it is a downward trend of their practices. They'll treat customers more and more like money cows to be milked over time. I didn't think much of their gacha but it was in the back of my mind, but full-on doing something like this? Its a fucking insult and disgrace to their franchises to put a mainline game on the platform.

Mobile is an irredeemable mess.

To me its barely any different from Diablo Immortal, though I gave up on Blizzard a long time ago it still felt like a spitting in my face for them to get more money because money is the only thing that matters to them anymore.

Of course, I can't say that for Falcom yet. They're still capable of quality games, but the level of greed, the lack of concern for their western fanbase. This all points to a general trend with Falcom.

Giving NISA the license to Ys VIII was already a spitting in my face. Giving them CS3 was a kick to the groin.

Porting Ys VIII to mobile?

That's…

I can't fucking excuse this shit anymore.

I'm sick of this.

I was willing to excuse Falcom for Ys VIII. Maybe they were just retarded and didn't know NISA was bad, but this… this all is fucking horrible.

If you cared about your IPs, never give them to fucking chinks to ruin on a whim because you could get a few more shekels.

DMC 5 might be considered good, but in terms of predatory and anti-consumer practices (microtransaction cash shop for orbs and fucking denuvo too?) its fucking cancerous and points to a bad fucking trend. It coming out after DmC helped it not look as absolute shit too because it had that godawful thing to be compared to. Sure its better than the downright disgusting and appalling thing that was DmC but that's not an excuse for its shortcomings. I remember how disappointed people were when they heard about that chink trash. It was some monkey's paw tier shit feelings going around

>get a new DMC game announced

>its fucking mobile garbage

What a shame. Between nisa and this im glad i never had the money at the time to buy TLoH/Ys games. Its true though, as you age everything you loved goes to shit.

>>16376725

Cold Steel having microtrans…that's the one thing I never wanted to hear. Shit. We all make mistakes though, like trusting Blizzard was ever good.

>>16377111

The dubs and trips never lie unfortunately. It had to be a blackpill.

>>16377380

>Cold Steel having microtrans…that's the one thing I never wanted to hear

Good since that's a bullshit claim. Cold Steel has DLC none of it essential in the slightest bit and it's all one time purchase shit. That's not what microtransactions are.

Who let the retard from cuckchan in?

I too beat TiTS 1. I got stuck on final boss form 3 though, and was surprised there were 4 forms in total. I spent a good 4 hours trying, but it became a slog. Good thing I youtube'd the ending because man did I miss a huge part of the story at the end. That was a surprise to have such a heightened awareness of who the true enemies were. I had a feeling the Professor was a front, but not to that extent. It got me interested to see the ending of the other consecutive games, I still need to play the next ones.

Also beat Ys 1 probably half a year ago, that was great. Then I stopped on Ys 2 at the big castle and the boss just after it.

>>16376725

>Cold Steel

>microtransactions

That's not what microtransactions are, anon. I do agree that the DLC is shit and they shouldn't sell you health items even for a one time purchase and the costumes should be in game earned, but they arent microtransactions.

>>16377557

>>16377391

The heck are you talking about? Paid cosmetic DLC are a form of microtransactions. Do you think that microtransactions means "required to play the game" or something? They're nonessential yes, but microtransactions nonetheless. What's more, there are paid shit that provide actual, in-game advantages.

Microtranactions refer to any virtual good, thing, mechanic or advantage that can be purchased for a small price (hence the term "micro") in addition to, for, or in conjunction with the base game. The only sort of paid DLC that I wouldn't call a microtransaction are actual content DLC and purchaseable characters (though the latter might still count as that).

>>16377578

I'm just going to assume you're shitposting.

>>16377598

Microtransactions are specifically repeatable purchases you can make. You can buy as many of them as you want. Like buying more "gems" in a mobile game to let you play longer without having to wait. An example of microtransactions in a single player game would be the xp boosts in modern AssCreed games that give you like a six hour boost to your XP. You can buy as many of those as you want. Cold Steel's DLCs are all one time purchase items. Once you bought them, you can't buy them again. And, as I said, unlike in the case of Ubisoft the game is not designed to try and force you to get them either, since the game is extremely easy and the items you can buy are entirely unnecessary. And the cosmetics are just costumes that affect nothing.

>>16378130

I have never heard of microtransactions needing to be repeatable. Are you saying buying a skin isn't a microtranaction? Skins are usually non-repeatable purchases in games, yet most would consider those to be microtransactions.

The nonessential argument is irrelevant. That just points to the level of predation for now, which isn't as bad as other companies yet but will only get worse because of tolerant faggots.

>>16378204

Buying a skin isn't a microtransaction. Buying a lootbox is, since those are repeatable. And yes, there is a difference. One is significantly more predatory than the other. It's also worth noting that "skins" exist in multiplayer games designed to be returned to again and again, and so the skins are constantly updated to continue that cashflow. CS doesn't do that. There were some packs of item DLC you could buy when the game came out. Once you bought them you bought them and that was that. You don't have to buy them again for new games or something. They're always there are more was never released. So you saying the game has "microtransactions" is pretty much a blatant attempt to make something seem worse than it is.

>>16377512

Yeah man that fucking professor. That surprised me as well. The music coupled with the change in attitude from joshua made it all the more unnerving. The ending was pretty great. I highly recommend continuing as you also learn the backstories of your friends/joshuas plus who Alba really is. The payoff is well worth it

>>16378248

>buying a skin isn't a microtransaction

I don't buy this shit. Where's your definition coming from?

Where is this "repeatable" dimension? What is buying a skin then?

You're only saying that repeatable purchases are microtransactions. Buying weapon unlocks. What are those? Are those not microtransactions? Buying certain in-game items. Those aren't microtransactions because they're not repeatable?

You're arguing that the term makes them look bad. This "cosmetic DLC" and other "game-boosting" bullshit is a nicer way of saying microtransactions. Especially when there's enough of them to make fucking packs to purchase.

I don't care if the term is loaded to you in your opinion. I feel its a legitimate usage of the term, and I'm calling it out as such.

If you don't feel that way, fine. But what they're doing is objectively cancerous. Even if they somehow, some way aren't microtransactions, who knows what'll be the case by the next Trails saga.

here's a hint: things won't be getting better, that's for damn sure.

>>16378311

Because the business model for microtransactions are based entirely on repeatable purchases. In a game like Fortnite, I suppose skins would be considered that since they are always making more to keep that money coming. One time purchase DLC isn't in the same league as that. Not even close. Cosmetic DLC is the norm in jrpgs. Literally every company does it. It's just silly costumes that don't actually add anything to the game and, again, it's not even like they keep making them. So you're right, things aren't going to get "better." They're going to be exactly the same. They're going to be what they have been. This is a nontroversy. Call me when they throttle the game leveling to make you buy DLC or cut out story content to patch in as DLC. Then you can call it predatory. This is nothing.

>>16378739

Most people here will patch in the japanese voices or mute the thing entirely I imagine. I find both dubs cringey tbh.

>>16379496

It's NISA. You just click the Japanese voice option if you want it. But I've found the CS dub is pretty popular. I certainly prefer it.

>>16378340

>Call me when it turns to the worst kind of cancer

>because their business model isn't based on repeat purchases it doesn't mean anything

>one-time purchase DLC isn't in the same league as skins and weapon unlocks

I'm failing to see how.

Its nonessential. Its a one-time purchase. Its cosmetic. What's the fucking difference? That because fortnite adds in more skins over time for purchase? That's a fucking weak difference and you know it.

There's also a fucking glut of them.

DLC like that being the "norm" doesn't make it okay. It means they're following the trends of the industry, which shows signs of only getting worse.

>its not like they keep making them

Because its a single player game, but there are still a fucking lot of them and they're usually frontloaded.

The fact that you want to wait till things are at their worst to admit anything suggests to me that your principles aren't strong.

What are you going to do when that fucking happens? Not buy their games? Once that happens, it'll be the "norm" for singleplayer games. Then what will you do? Pirate everything and become a recluse? Is that what you want?

What I'm seeing here from you is that, because they aren't literally farming their players yet, that it isn't predatory. That because they aren't adding in more DLC over time yet that its not predatory.

You've become used to this utter cancer, don't be surprised once Falcom gets worse.

>>16377578

unironically kill yourself

>>16379628

Not the same guy but what do you expect the six guys that frequent the Falcom threads to do my guy? Beyond bitching about DLC and being sad that Falcom does that as well that is? Falcom being DLC-pozzed as well is the last thing anyone needed, ever but we can't do much because obviously, even if let's say, /v/ stopped buying games with DLC on, we had so many more cazulshits gobbling them up like they were cumgeysers and they were thirsty whores. Even the nip cazuals brought in to the DLC craze without much of a second thought.

Arguing semantics and sperging out tripping the thread isn't gonna help much, unless you wanna contribute in a good way like, I dunno, how about we find who those chiniggers are that will distribute the game on phones and compile info and macros on them and warn some goddamn people or at the very least, understand the situation behind their collaboration with Falcom. Because if that shit is anything like the Dynasty Warriors 9 behind-the-back deals to include chinese dubs, KT bending five times backwards to actually gain an official chinese audience now that they allow PC games from other countries, so KT made everyone bland, got them "realistic armour" and wen >MUH realism with a huge open world Chinkland etc then it's gonna spell very dark days for Falcom.

On the other hand, if it's the usual one-off shit, like DMC4 Refrain like I mentioned before and it falls on its face, good. That will mean that Falcom will probably have the sense to tell the chinashits to fuck off.

>>16375887

I think dodge and guard are not good fits for Ys at all. Since day 1 all Ys was about was dodging enemy attacks and good positioning from bump combat to Ark combat. Dodge is worthless because unless you gimp movement there's no reason to not just run, so they gimped movement.

Guard is shit because it completely takes out the threat from any enemy. Why have complex attacks or anything if all you can do is hit L1 and voila, guard no damage. To compensate, every enemy now deals a gazillion damage and attacks are pretty much identical.

It pisses me off how bosses aren't even creative anymore. Where's the visually impressive centipede that rotates around a tower dropping mines on you, that you have to climb while it's slithering and tear it piece by piece? Where's the big fucking mantis that throws giant buzzsaws at you? Where is literally any boss that isn't creature that's twice/thrices your size that swipes at you?

You have exceptions(often shit ones, like any human boss who's obscured by all the three party members spamming skills, or Ys 8's kraken which was a borefest revolving around a barely functional gimmick) but nothing really creative or even fun to play against with a few exceptions, mostly Dana's bosses.

>>16381976

It's either that or give back the dodge-guard with magic and i-frames from Felghana(I don't mind that) and have the jumps have i-frames as well or have the attacks not have overhead properties because, at least in Ys Vs Sora, a lot of the attacks, when I tried to jump over them now that I went back to it, where almost impossible to avoid in the air but could be somewhat dodged on the ground. The positioning is there but they never followed up on that, even when they added jumping in the main Ys series again.

That also reminds me, why the fuck was Geiss the only boss we could only as Adol in Ys7 but murderboy wasn't? But the trend was more and more obnoxious in later games and the final boss of Ys Celeta was downirhgt stupid with how the system had changed.

>>16382081

The way I see it people will gobble up them up because they're heavier on story and bloat content. They can have better writing and fill the game with a shitton of crafting content, copious amounts of sidequests and minigames but at the end of the day none of it is as remotely compelling as the previous games.

Even the music took a dive for the worse. Instead of excellent pumped up music to fuck up monsters we get generic JRPG melodies that are more often than not unremarkable and the lamest boss themes possible, or in Celceta's case an OST that's like 80% garbage.

>>16385469

I don't think the writing is better either really. It's just wordier when you could get across your points far better in earlier games. And that insistance of keeping Adol quiet worked when the story was marked by its brevity in text and length in environmental and boss storytelling but now that its flipped and bosses are utterly mindless obstacles half the time + plus you have a party, Adol being more tight lipped that a tuna can is straight up bizarre. Music has taken a dive, I really can't defend that and it shows with how much I go back to the Felghana soundtrack constantly, especially vid related. There's just something unmateched when it comes to old Falcom OSTs these days and it's a shame they cop out on the harder hitting sounds.

One thing I'll defend is the "crafting" when it comes to armours and weapons, I think that is needed in some way. if we aren't gonna bother with giving each sword a unique function anymore like in Ark(where it combined crafting and uniqueness) or have them be clear indications of strength and have a use(in 7 with the skills being learned) then just have crafting for them and be done with it. It would be better though, if the armour could change as well to make it more interesting. Adol looking like a random dude just isn't appealing if he stays like that throughout the adventure.

>>16385543

I liked Dana's crafting because it cut out all the unnecessary fat and was pretty much a linear progression system. You had "choices" in your armor selection but in the party Ys games something as little as +20 to a stat no longer carries the same weight it did in previous games and with something like the random evade stat, there was little with that stat attached to actually give you any sort of variety. Same with the accessories, I never found myself using anything that wasn't +X Skill exp or something that gave big bonuses to strength.

I'd blame armors not changing visuals on two things, the fact that there are no longer clearly defined, tiered armors and the fact that you can have 6 or 7 party members and Falcom's too lazy to have their models change with armors. Which is another thing Nayuta no Kiseki did pretty well. Oath had changing sprites but it was for full gear of the same tier, otherwise it was his normal silver/leather armor look.

Also I'm fairly sure I mentioned this before, but Dana's standalone dungeons was a massive step up over anything in the party Ys games and did so many things right. Instead of three party members out at all times, you have one character that has different forms/styles, with one small skillset(it still pretty much relied on you spamming the 40 SP attack which was the most damaging, but the 1SP buff was a neat idea) that changes depending on your form, with each form having completely different attack strings, movement stats and interactions with the world, but sharing the same character, SP pool and health. It made for the best bosses and dungeons.

I think the problem started when they saw Felghana's and Origins(?) system of "let's make everyone level up until 99" and the fuckers run with it, not realising why that was a good idea in these games and what the values were supposed to be, which is a common mistake when people start focusing more on the RPG side instead of the Action side of an Action RPG, take the Tales series post Tales of Graces F. Berseria tried to correct it but despite all its flashiness, still can't be as good action-wise as Graces F. I discovered the armour chaning in Felghana as well by accident my first time when I completed the Silver set on my first playthrough and had the curiosity to experiment with the rest. I was extatic. And yes it kind fits with what you say but the moment they decided to DLC some clothes, they have no excuses left. Nayuta did it right as well.

The skills taking on a bigger role than "hard hitting artes" in same sense Tales used to use them and suddenyl they had fluctuations on Sp needed on the same character(Adol's skill no longer were in tiers of 10s to accomodate his SP gaining etc) and have secondary effects as well for no reason, as if it's trying to ape Zestiria and Berseria specifically. Some of the skills Adol has I see Eizen having. Artifacts specifically for skills isn't helping either and I can't remember an artifact like Ys7's where it powered up the more enemies you killed, where you could have a character like Adol or Geiss be super balanced and excell at everything if you put the time into it.

As for Dana's dungeons, yes you mentioned it and it's pretty much a good continuiation of the Ark and 7 idea of Adol having multiple different swords with different effects, strings and power behind them. Too bad the skills were interchangable for him but it made sense due to his final sword having that "Ten / Heaven" attribute that trumped all other rockpaper-scissors things…and I don't remember anything like that in either Celceta or Dana.

>>16385543

Ys 8's soundtrack never quite gelled with me because it crossed a certain threshold where a lot of songs sound like something you'd hear in a generic J-Rock anime opening. It's got something to do with the more band-like percussion and the way the piano and violins are often used. Older Ys veered more towards melodic power eurometal like Malmsteen (in fact one song in Ys IV blatantly plagiarized Far Beyond the Sun, just listen to embed related) which felt less like rocking for the sake of rocking. Kind of like the change in tone of Ys itself (or even the Trails series), it went from generic 90's fantasy anime tropes to generic modern fantasy anime tropes. I prefer the former.

8 just doesn't really stand out to me that much. VI had the interesting fusion of synth sound and traditional jdk, Origin had a more Castlevania-esque gothic sound, and Seven had a varied ethnic/tribal flavor to many of its themes in order the capture the tone of the five villages. Don't even get me started on MoC, they right butchered most of the original tracks.

What's overly jarring is that while The Legend of Heroes slowly transitioned between tropes, Ys transitioned very, very abruptly. Up until Ark you could argue it's still 90s fantasy anime and I could see Adol dying his hair brown and calling himself Parn, trying to find blue haired Deedlit while powermetal banged in the background. Ys 4C and 8 just feel like what yu said, generic modern fantasy that falls flat.

The thing is, I don't know if it's because of Japan's gradual change these past few years when it comes to anime taste and what seels due to kimootas, the fact that once you gave the normalfag west the waifutrails with Sen no kiseki and Ys 4 they started thinking Ys by and large was a very waifu-centric series and followed suit to get more numbers or a combination of the two, which is the most depressing.

As far as celceta's soundtrack…I only liked vid related. And not by much compared to other games. I still prefer Ys 8's ost to Celceta's though.

>>16384944

Precisely. It happened much earlier than Cold Steel not that i mind

>>16385626

>I don't remember anything like that in Celceta or Dana

The reason is because the "ultimate" weapons in those games are weak as piss, and in fact the jump between weapon or armor tiers in either game is so barely noticeable I usually need to double check if I actually upgraded the weapon just in case.

>>16385753

>>16385759

Go back to /tv/, friend.

>>16376725

Everything you said in this thread is fucking retarded, the fact that you're here makes my life a living hell and I wish you'd go back from where you came.

>>16385948

Some guy is spamming the thread with IP hops report them.,

>>16385956

Well not everything, you make a buncha sense with some stuff. Although saying shit like cosmetic DLC are microtransactions and that mobile can't be redeemed with some kind of controller input and better marketing system is retarded.

>>16386224

Ys 8 was a great game ruined by NISA

>>16384944

where did you find the english translated version of zero no kiseki? I thought it was only in japanese

>>16381882

Even if I bothered to compile information on some shady chinkshits, if we can't agree on extremely basic shit like Falcom's direction not looking good and them following the cancerous trends of the industry not being a good thing there's no point in bothering.

There would likely be no effort to spread it anywhere either. Who would care enough for a niche/alternative game? Who would care about my findings? Even with the entire Falcom fanbase that knew about NISA's cancer being galvanized by that email campaign, it still wasn't fucking enough apparently. If I wanted to be productive in a more useful way I'd be spreading more information about the cancer of NISA to normalfags since that's at least something basic that at least some people can agree upon and actually do something about and there's a possible hope that NISA will eventually screw up so much that Falcom fucks off from them.

Semantics were being used. I never brought them up myself, they were brought up against me because they couldn't handle that cosmetic DLC were being called microtransactions when the difference is fucking minimal. The point was fucking lost.

>>16385968

>>16385956

You're quite naive.

Mobile will never be redeemed.

When have you ever heard of an inherently predatory industry becoming more ethical and respecting of their customers over time?

When have you heard of something starting out and being inherently shit and only getting worse all the time, "miraculously" getting better out of nowhere. What we've seen is console gaming and PC gaming getting worse, and even handheld gaming in terms of practices, quality, products and all sorts of shit. What makes you think that fucking mobile gaming of all things will get better? Or even has the potential to? Your ideas won't mean shit because core gamers aren't on fucking mobile or even care about it (unless you include the niggers who play GBFG/FGO on the side or whatever, but gacha is quite literally one of the lowest things any person who plays actual games can sink to). Even the most basic niggers, one of the most cucked populations on PC (current year Blizzdrones) had enough balls to tell Blizzard to fuck off when they put Diablo's next mainline game on phones because it was a fucking insult to them. It was a disgrace. It was pathetic. Mobile is fucking cancer.

Mobile gaming won't fucking ever turn good. Nobody bought an Nvidia shield for a reason, and nobody ever will.

There's far too many problems to go into for mobile gaming, but if you think a controller input and better marketing scheme is all that's needed to redeem it you're beyond hope for understanding anything. Even if your idea has a point, businesses don't fucking care about that shit and you know it.

>>16384944

This. The entire franchise was a pile of anime tropes from the very beginning. Sky had a tsundere MC with a NBR brother/sister crush, a lewd sadistic woman with whips, a Goku knockoff, a token loli AND evil goth loli, etc. Hell they even have the obligatory hot springs episode. They just sort of play with whatever is trendy with otaku at the time.

CS came out when academy battle harem anime was huge and that's one of the reasons I like it.

>>16388609

>Mobile will never be redeemed.

I bet you're the same fool that said that side scrolling couldn't exist back in the DOS days.

>>16388777

That was technilogical and hardware restrictions, not the fucking utterly predatory and cancerous culture and attitude that is mobile gaming. To say you're being a disingenuous prick is a damn understatement.

>>16389015

I'm just saying that the predatory and cancerous culture can be changed and that there's potential for a gamepass like service on mobile. It's basically what Apple Arcade is, full games on an iOS device, for a subscription fee.

>>16389015

thank you anon. I couldn't have said it better myself.

>>16389018

>games as services

>Apple fucking arcade for subscription fees!

>cancerous culture can totally be changed though!

Anon. What the actual fuck is wrong with you.

I don't know if you're aware of this, but mobile right now is a fucking duopoly between Google and Apple.

Full games on an "IOS device" should make you vomit, especially for a fucking subscription fee.

There's no reason for them to fucking change what-so-fucking-ever.

What's next, saying how the fucking Windows 10 store offers PC ports of (formerly) xbone exclusive games as an example of things getting better?

Its inherently wrong and contradictory. And Apple is the less permissive of the giants, their OS and hardware are completely locked down, they intentionally slow their phones and products on purpose, they're grossly overpriced. They're full of SJWs. They censor nearly as much, if not as much as Google. The games on Apple's store are no less predatory, shit and cancerous than the ones on the Play store.

Google, I don't even need to fucking tell you what's fucking going on with them.

What do you fucking think Stadia is? That's what they think gaming is. Their phone section has no hope of getting better, their entire company is cancer.

>>16387922

It's the best of the party games so far, but thatdoesn't mean much and it has a lot of problems mentioned in the past 20 or so posts.

Just give me a standalone game that's basically Dana's Dungeon, if it's not Adol. That's what I really want out of these games if I can't have the older Ys' back.

>>16388609

Well, fair enough. If shit's that fucked on your side, I can see why the defeatist attitude is taken place. Not saying like here it's any better givn it's either Soystation 4 for Falcom's games or the utter shit PC ports by Gaben's stooges via animu-tiddie companies with a horrible script…at least with Soy4 I can import and be free of the horrible localizations. But that's no consolation prize. Is Ys a niche game though anymore? I've heard so many normalniggers utter the names of Trails and Ys when talking about games so i don't think that's the case anymore. It's probably also the case of why these practices exist in the first place…

Handheld gaming is dead my man. it died with the 3DS and the PSP. And unless Ninty wants to revive it with a switch that is somehow a proper handheld / portable game that doesn't fry your hands and destroys your house in flames, it died with those two.

>>16389331

>It's the best of the party games so far, but thatdoesn't mean much and it has a lot of problems mentioned in the past 20 or so posts.

Danatrannies will still ignore those posts amd continue to push the narrative that their korean MMO disguising itself as a Ys game is good.

>>16389331

>>16387922

It's the worst Ys game next to MoC

>helped turn Ys into stale waifugarbage near instantly

>shit gameplay

>shit characters

>shit story

>shit combat

>shit music

Literally no redeeming qualities.

>>16389499

I don't have a defeatist attitude. I'm realistic and can see this shit situation for what it is and I know what things to put or not put my efforts towards.

>is Ys a niche game though anymore

I've almost never heard a normalfag talk about trails or Ys. Well actually I suppose that's untrue, very recently I've started to hear them talk about Trails of Cold Steel, Tokyo Xanadu, and Ys VIII specifically. Before those games or last year though, I've never heard or seen it have any significant name brand recognition, and only now I'm seeing the outskirts of normalfags (aka normalfag weebs) take notice

>PSP and 3DS

>no love for the Vita

Near-every Falcom game that's been released in the last 18-20 years can be played on the Vita. Plus it had a lot of nice games outside of Falcom's offering. I much preferred it to my 3DS and love mine to death.

Of course, Sony violently butchered it last year so I'm protecting mine for the time being.

I've heard rumors that there's 2 new models for the Switch coming in the summer, and one is a more dedicated handheld version.

Its not the best way but I'd rather handheld gaming survive some way so I hope they do that at least. Shame that physical copies are so grossly overpriced and ugly for it though at any rate.

Red and white logos and trim with a thin, vertical case. Blech.

>>16390443

>Are you talking about me?

No. The two posts above you.

>>16390458

Alright.

Sorry for assuming the worst then. I'd prefer to avoid having my posts be deleted and me be banned so I'd prefer to aggressively quash anything that even remotely implies I could be that faggot, so I hope you understand.

>>16390286

Fair enough. I used to call it like that until I saw it for what it is. For vidya at least. I would say a little bit of Ys Origins as well from normals a few years ago, when one of the Soulsjewtubers shilled for it as a "game as hard or harder than Dunk Souls you guys, prepare for DS3 / 4" and it had some sort of sale on steam or something.

As for the Vita, I cannot hold it in such high regard, in my conciousness, due to it being Sony's attempt at killing handheld gaming with a lot of malpractices, being Mark Cerny's playground on what not to do with handhelds / portables, having gimmicky niche games instead of just good niche games like the PSP, a lot of said games are being ported to the PC and PS4 for good reasons and due to its expensive as fuck hardware and software that is unwaranteed. And I have no desire to buy one and turn it into a hack machine and swap gigs on my memory stick. And it's on that regard alone that I hold the 3DS higher. PSP still the king.

I dunno if the redesigns are rumours anymore given that Nikkei has also reported on that but my worries are if Nintendo delivers on more than just slightly upgraded specs and actually improve some things like the cooling systems, overall architecture so it doesn't heat up like crazy etc.

>>16390443

>All that nonsense about shit in the GG threads

>trusting someone you no nothing about on here when you know damn well they'll throw you out over having what they deem as the wrong opinion

Take it somewhere else, faggot. This isn't the place for that shit.

>>16392295

>>16392466

If he just wasn't fucking called McBurn I could take him seriously. What's his deal anyway?

>>16392491

McBurn is an acronym for his real name. And he's from "outside." Which is still extremely vague, but it has to do with what exactly the fuck Zumeria is, which is still unclear. It's impossible to leave the Zumerian continent. Some…thing keeps everything inside like a snowglobe and things like McBurn and The Salt Pale are from outside of it. It has to do with the overall plot we still don't know.

>>16392531

Whoa, thanks. This only makes me more excited for CS III and for when we'll finally get to visit Arteria. Although that would all still depend on if CS III even makes it to PC. Anyway, your post really gets me thinking on who or what Adios is, how the septian church and ouroboros were formed and why exactly they do what they do. Damn I love Trails.

>>16392531

Just another gay ass anime ass-pull

>>16392897

The word you are meant to use is "isekai"

>>16392531

Sounds kind of like Ys 1.

>>16360326

>>16345938

>Faxanadu

Holy shit, what a blast from the past. I never connected the "xanadu" name. I guess I've been a Falcom fan for ages since I played Faxanadu a shitton back in the day.

>>16400064

>Wanted Criminal by many nations.

>People want his ass dead.

>Dyes his hair.

Whats the issue?

From that gameplay video and the poster, seems like he'll have his red hair back at some point or a mix of raven-red. I'm more concerned with Dogi, what the fuck is going on these last few games. Every time I see him after Ys 7, it's like he's aged 10 years more than Adol and it's distracting.

>>16360326

It's an aging curse. Ys 10 they'll discover it and and that'll be the motivation for the adventure.

>>16400064

What happened to the cool looking armor? Why is falcom insisting on leather fashion model, what the fuck is this shit.

>>16400400

meant for >>16400373

New vido of Adol's Monstrum action. INB4 Devil Bringer or Vergil's Teleportswords. Also, Double Jump has a magic circle underneath it.

>>16402664

Is that a fucking ponytail on my boy Adol

They may be taking some cues from Devil May Cry, maybe? I kinda like it.

Yes, Adol's got a ponytail now. Time to bring the vid I had in the previous thread as well…

>>16400064

Isn't adol and dogi the same age? how come Dogi aged like milk while Adol looks like he is auditioning for some K-pop band?

>>16406282

Nah Dogi is like 5 years older than Adol. He's 29 now, Adol is 24.

>>16403050

>>16402908

Where?

>Just noticed it

Holy shit, I thought it was just a tassel or something from his armor.

Neato, I wish it were thicker because I didn't notice it at first.

>>16344039

Called it.

>>16406319

Was this always the case? I remember even in the older ones Dogi being the older one but he wasn't older by that much, they were implied to be closer in age. I think though that the after the old Falcom artists stopped sektching for Ys and after Katsumi Enami left, nobody is really eager to make Dogi look cool but they all just bishie Adol up. Dogi looking more and more like an old man instead of Fist of the North Star dude just brings the excitement down and makes me think this will be another game where the duo won't be together in gameplay.

>>16406549

>duo won't be together in gameplay

That's exactly what's going to happen. Dogi's probably going to be relegated to village tard wrangler again.

At this point I suspect that when they remake Lost Kefin, instead of having Adol, Dogi and the pirate's daughter as the players, given that was the game they wanted to try a party system of sorts, they're gonna relegate Dogi to the ship's tard wrangler, the daughter to loli waifubait and find random shitheads to fill their positions.

>>16407472

>Third game of an arc, where all the previous stories connect

>Seventh game of a series

>Good for newcomers

At least we know that NISA never played the previous games.

>>16407621

People are running defence saying XSEED said the same thing in regards to CS1 but Cold Steel 1 was, by design, made for newcomers to the series and only had small nods to the other games and since it was running concurrent with Crossbell, it didnt need the crossbell games to understand what was going on. If someone leaps into 3 they get whole character arcs left out from not only CS but the other games as well.

What people should understand is that CS3 is the point where you absolutely do need all of the games to understand what's happening.

But guys Ys 8 turned out so well, it only took like two years of fixes for the game to be playable(but with a few bugs here and there) and the translation was okay(except for the first few years also they clearly gave up on it by the end)

Guys I'm sure NISA has learned their lesson this time.

>>16407711 (CHECK'D)

Fuck this gay shit. We used to be number 1 in weeb imports, now we're slurping NISA's asshole for Ys. It is marketing circlejerk aka Local News 101. As for NISA to stop existing, that would mean that people would either have to start importing NIS titles or just have NISA burn with the other fuckwads in the class of the other modern localizers.

>>16400155

Its will be a running joke in the game when he tries to convince people he is Adol.

>>16408249

>Literally nothing we can do anymore

Bomb them. Why won't one of you American cunts do the right thing for once? It has become the only way to get the point across to Falcom.

>>16408242

>>16408249

>>16408254

>>16408307

>>16408311

>>16408329

Just how long do you plan to keep at this shit blackpillnigger?

>>16408342

First off

>People

It's just you, you complete fucking nigger. Secondly:

>Even reddit is shitting on NISA for the article

Nice try niggerpill. Why don't you kill yourself since you seem so fond of the idea. You always talk about how your'e going to do it. Gee, it's been months and you still haven't done it. Kill yourself, you coward. Why don't you show us how it's done.

>>16408356

>Even reddit is shitting on NISA for the article

That doesn't change this:

>Pre-orders for Trails of Cold Steel III –Thor’s Military Academy Edition have been exceptional on the NISA EU Store.

>>16408367

You can thank the frogs for that. Also, NISA has been publishing for CS since the first in the EU. So for them it's the norm.

>>16408367

Yeah, because NISA was so truthful in the rest of the article, NIGGERPILL. Why are you such a fucking nigger? Goddam, you are basically an ape. Next you'll be telling me you were kangz.

>Don't worry guys we've learnt from Ys 8!

This is actually great news, guys! They are improving! It's not their fault Ys 8 was NISA's very first game, if it wasn't for that, Ys 8 would have been much better!

>>16410569

How the fuck did they even fuck it up so badly

Didn't Falcom care about their IP enough at all to keep them even on a remote leash? This is appalling.

>>16410554

>Back to adventurer+ Nero/Vergil's demon arms

YES YES YES

All Ys 9 needs is non flash guard centeric gameplay.

If the neptunia fanbase can make a retranslation so can the Falcom fanbase. We just need to put our heads together and just get it done. Enough moping.

>>16411818

Its always easier to say or call for people to do something than to actually do it. Translating is a lot of fucking work, and while there's overlap the people who make up the fanbases are different.

I'm for people doing it but I wouldn't be able to contribute (unless its in a way that I wouldn't view spoilers)

HOLY FUCK I GOT IT, I CRACKED THE CODE! I GET IT!

Forgive my sperge but here goes :

- So I at firs tI thought Monstrum Nox was some Bloodborne inspired thing for Ys given the indications but there's something else about it, especially with Adol disguising himself and with the assembly of the "monsters" he allies himself with and everyone's abiities. First, the name : Monstrum Nox is clumsy latin for "Monster Night" but what does that mean if we reverse it to its original japanese meaning? That would be Hyakki Yakkou aka "Night Parade of the Hundred Demons / Monsters".

- Second, let's try and find the japanese analogues for Adol and gang : it's Adol who has a hand that allows him to zip through and almost teleport to places, then it's Hawk who can fly and wields two swords, then it's a cat trap thing, White Cat and the cover also shows a horned nun woman and cow-like woman wielding an axe. Now, let's see :

>Nurarihyon is a yokai that can take a human appearance to tease people and cn pass through undetected and zip across places unnoticed

>Bakeneko / Nekomata is a monster cat

>Karasu-Tengu / Crow Tengu is a class of tengu, they can fly and often wield swords, staves and spears to fend off intruders

>Oni are horned monsters with great strength that can smash and devastate houses

>Ushi-oni / Gyuki is a monster Ox

Now if we apply these here, they almost line up perfectly and you could argue that perhaps Dogi, if he too becomes afflicted, could fill the Oni position but Adol who can zip through and disguises himself is Nurarihyon. The reason they appear like that is because Ys has always been a fantasy anime trope series and these are very european-based, so Adol looks like the Spardas and so on.

Essentially, Ys 9 is all about Adol's Hyakki Yakkou, which means that this is probably the most Japanese Ys has gotten. If Adol gets a katana as well, it will not only seal the deal, it'll double as a sweet Nero / Vergil reference.

>>16411818

I'm pretty sure that these games have a lot more text to translate than the Neptunia games. Also, since it's a NISA port it's going to run like absolute dogshit, if at all. Once they get around to making the PC version, that is - and with NISA there's a very real chance that they will fuck it up so bad that they cancel it. Turbo mode? NISA can't even make games run normally, so that one is out of the question. If it was easy to translate Trails, you'd think that people would have done it already. The fan translations that do exist for the other Trails subseries haven't exactly been finished lightning quick.

It would be nice, certainly, but it'll be a lot of work and no fan alterations can fix a NISA port.

>>16411977

Ys VIII isn't a trails game, its text amount is comparable to a more normal JRPG.

If he's referring to CS3 its pretty much fucked. It'd be a massive project, the wise thing to do would be to combine efforts with the already-existing fanslation group for Falcom games for that if something were to be done.

>no fan alterations can fix a NISA port

Not necessarily. There have been mods that fix a lot of issues for games that were pretty fucked on release, such as Nier Automata's PC release having a ton of crashes and shit like that being fixed with the FAR mod.

>>16411955

Nurarihyon no Mago was a pretty cool manga tbh

>>16411818

>>16411890

>>16412126

>>16411977

There's a guy working on fixing Ys 8 PC. If you wanna improve the translation, just go ahead and edit the script. It's exstremely easy to change the script.

>>16412426

>gigantic speech bubble

>tiny text

I hate when editors do this.

>>16420153

Go for all of them but if you want the best ones Felghana and Origin are your best bets I liked Seven well enough despite the obvious problems it has and you cant go wrong with 1 and 2 just have to learn how bump combat works and you'll be golden.

>>16407711

As someone that was dumb enough to play CS1 before any other game in the series, I had to replay it after catching up I'd say it's not a good starting point at all. Most of the story becomes meaningless babble if you don't know any of the characters or events going on before and during CS1/2. It's even worse if you never bothered playing the Crossbell games, because you would never know why/how Gurallia Fortress got vaporized, what the Azure tree was all about, or what the entire geofront section of the epilogue was for. Jumping into CS3 would be fucking insane, because by that point characters and plot lines from Sky/Zero/Ao all start coming together.

>>16420153

Just get every Ys game

Is it just me or do the riffs and guitars in the trailer sound like something out of Falcom's sound team? Didn't JDK once homage Michiru Yamane's style for a track?

>>16418819

>There's a guy working on fixing Ys 8 PC

Post proof

>>16431911

No idea about that, but I remember getting castlevania vibes from this track from tits 3rd

But holy shit, the second half of that video sounds like it was ripped straight from Falcom's team yes.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a guest cameo from them. That project had a ton of superstars advertised as coming on for the project, including for its soundtrack composition, citing some mystery guests

>>16433153

Probably too busy working on Borderlands 3. Who'd they get to replace her, the chick who voices 2B?

>>16433153

Wow, so she doesn't even have the only role I ever found her "okay" in anymore.

At least I'm not Ashly Burch

>>16433423

Jesus Christ her parents smacked her upside the head with the ugly stick a few times huh? Doesn't really matter since I'm not gonna buy the English version anyway.

>>16436636

thats why shes a VOICE actor

>>16436660

Good job anon. You did it.

>>16437925

Nah, it's well out of that zone with that upgrade in graphics. Worst we can expect is a mediocre game not an abomination anymore. If anything, the OST and artwork will be good even if the gameplay ends up being disappointing due to the combined powers of Yamane and Kojima.

I've been playing Trails in the Sky for the first time and I absolutely love it. If I want to buy it where is best and who gets my money if I do?

>>16438513

GOG for DRM free and your money will be split between XSEED, Falcom, and GOG if you do.

Fuck, I never bothered with Ys because I thought an action game would be kind of shitty. Decided to start with the first one anyway, it was a lot of fun.

Should I play the games in chronological or release order?

>>16439382

I was thinking of the following order:

Ys I, II, Oath in Felghana, Ark of Napishtim, Origin, Seven, etc

>>16439408

Good progression, that. You might want to squeeze in Dawn of Ys(PCE) in between Oath and Ark. It's the best bump combat game in my opinion

>>16439408

Personally I'd recommend playing Ark before Oath because the gameplay in Ark is much less refined compared to its sequels which can make it hard to go back to after Oath/Origin and also lets you appreciate the improvement in gameplay as the series goes along (until Seven)

>>16444071

Okay, that's good to know. I feel as is I have probably missed a Carnelia book considering I only have 2 chapters right now. I have been trying to explore all the content I can before progressing in the story, so missing those bracer tasks hit me hard, but they seemed pretty minor.

Alright so I beat TitS FC. The last boss was only a bitch because they decided to give it loads of HP. Is this a common theme in the rest of the series because a 40 minute mind numbing end game boss brought the pacing to a screeching halt.

>>16453543

SC's final boss wasn't that bad as far as I remember.

The 3rd's final dungeon+boss went on quite a while but the way it was presented I actually liked it.

And I think embed related is the only theme to actually have a good Evolution remix.

Which soundtrack should I play Ys I & II with?

>>16461034

The one you like the best.

Is it possible to mod 60 fps into PC version of zero/Ao

>>16486173

that's what they are adding to the Geofront releases

>>16486181

Whoa impressive. I finished zero and AO on PPSSPP emulator and what those guys are showing looks absolutely beautiful. Can't wait to play again.

Fuck Tales, where's my new Brandish?

>>16486264

I agree. Tales isnt that great of a series but I dont see what that has to do with a Falcom thread.

>>16486278

I meant trails.

If dubs nisa collapses, CS3 translation is shit and CS4 never releases if trips the ride goes on normally and falcom merges with nis

>>16486378

Celceta is not that bad anon, hell, after you get the teleport upgrade that let you teleport normally it actually become a very decent game.

Unless you are that faggot that keep whining about "muh 3-man party!" and "Muh leather model Adol!" then nothing anyone say will matter at all.

>>16486378

Is Ys VIII really that good? How is the gameplay? Is it simmilar to something like tokyo xanadu?

>>16488264

For the reference i finished ys 1 & 2 and the oath in felghana

>>16488264

>Is Ys VIII really that good?

It and Celecta were where the series was plagued with waifushit ala FE Awakening.

>>16488575

And shitty gameplay decisions regarding the level progression, combat, party system and skills, never forget that.

>>16488575

The series always had waifus in it. Stop being retarded.

>>16488575

>Celceta

>Waifushit

You are literallt like those SJWs that see racist and sexism where there's none. You sure you aren't into that waifushit stuff?

>>16488580

MoC and 8 are tied for worst game in the series for a very good reason.

>>16488628

Adol had 1 or 2 waifus each title, max. Even with Ys 7, he had Aisha and Tia. No, Mishera does not count, even if she was the best girl in the whole game. Come Celceta, this shit went into overdrive. At least Dana tried to tone it down by having waifus for the player aka eyecandy like the old times but only 2 girls fown over Adol. On the flip side, Adol was now a leather twink for some reason unless you had the DLC armour of his.

>>16488672

I had entire posts earlier in the thread about why Dana was bad but even then, it never quite reached Celceta's shit.

>>16488264

It would be a solid 9/10 if the game wasn't built around flash guard.

Otherwise it's a 7.5/10, maybe VIII.

>>16489189

Never saving Adol from drowning / Finding and nursing Adol after shipwreck

Nah.

I need NISA infographics, STAT.

>>16488846

>he had one or two waifus max

They're still there. I see this conversation going the same exact way when the retards who cry about Cold Steel and its waifus simply being there show up. Like they act like Falcom games just magically had them one day as they cling to the games that do the same shit they complain about but because the games are older it's fine.

>>16489754

>Screenshots from the NISA forums

Reminder that they actually shut down their forums since it was the central place where people would complain about their fuck ups.

>>16489729

Nonono, that's not what I said or implied. I said, in the older games that only one or two girls were all over Adol's dick while the rest of the women were pre-occupied with something else. In Celceta, you had even some married women oggle Adol and in Dana you had Dana, Laxia, Sister Nia as a throwback to Dullarn's human form(yeah, sorry…Sister Nell?) and either Alison or the blacksmith lady "winking" at Adol, like bitch keep it in your pants, you have a husband. Imagine if the blacksmith lady in OiF started flirting with you while her husband was present. That's what I meant by "waifus for Adol, not the player". It's why the dual waifus in Ys7 kinda worked, with Aisha being the obvious telegraphed choice with her being a tsundere and wanting to adventure, while Tia had a mysterious affection for Adol and when she shows her true shelf as a goddess and you think it's another Feena situation, she's reluctantly evil and you fight her. Mishera, Crxie / Cruxie and Sigroon offered nothing in terms of flirting with Adol.

>>16494357

I'm fairly sure it's the same theme as Seven's ending where there's no longer a pretermined end to society but it's now humanity's responsibility and there's no coming back from this, no reset or whatever.

It's lame but I'm okay with it I guess. I wish we get to see more of Dana or Hummel.

>>16494357

Pure lore rape and the worst part in Ys8, far worse than anything else, from gameplay tweaks, to leather twink Adol…the ending and that kind of thing is just shit flying at a 100 mph at the face of all the games before it and the fans. I know it's kinda gay to judge a game only by its ending or only by "the journey" but shit like this sours the entire experience in a very visceral way and crude manner.

>>16494590

That was contained to Altago specifically in 7, it felt kind of uncertain but liberating for the people.

Reminder that Ys has been on literally the same downward spiral as Fire Emblem

Ys 7 = FE12

Ys MoC = Awakening

Ys 8 = Fates

Ys 9 = Three Houses

How does it feel knowing that Ys will never be good again and that IX will be unironically worse than the past few entries combined?

>>16496426

>>16496436

Jesus christ stop IP hopping you scared shit.

>>16494590

>no longer a pretermined end to society but it's now humanity's responsibility

I'm pretty sure Maia specifically said that the Lacrimosa is utterly mandatory for the world of Ys and it will happen for humanity as it did for the other races.

>>16497726

She more or less says Dana is going to find a different way to move things forward, from what I recall.

>geofront website getting updated

oh man can't wait for the 80.5% post!

reminder that if you don't like ys viii you're just playing it wrong

>>16500415

Zerk is a normalfag now and no one else works on it. It will never be done.

>>16500419

I honestly do get why people don't like VII from a gameplay perspective. Modern Ys is a very different beast from where it started. Still, I enjoyed it quite a bit myself. I enjoyed the whole Swiss Family Robinson thing and I thought Dana was cute.

I'm interested in trying the Gagharv Trilogy as an excuse to learn nip. If anyone's played it in Japanese, is it hard to comprehend, or do you get your usual JRPG style dialogue?

>>16512093

>fallen priest X's out the cross instead of just throwing the hat away

that's so fucking edgy and stupid, I love it

>>16512093

Seen it before but now that I know that Bull is voiced by Ayane Sakura and is the buxom buff girl indeed, my dick is diamonds. Best girl.

>>16512607

That's Hiro Shimono for you.

>>16512093

He looks like a dude anyway. Dunno how you'd mistake him for a chick.

>>16512817

Now that you see his full art, yes, but on the box pretty much everyone assumed it was a nun.

I'm on chapter 1 of my first play through of TitS SC, I thoroughly enjoyed FC, buy im noticing the orbments system relies on order. Are there certain spells i should focus on getting as early as possible like clock up ex? Also, im addicted to 5 card poker. Im playing on normal btw pls no bully

>>16516810

Earth wall. Unless you think it's too broken.

>>16516853

>too broken

It's outright mandatory for chapter 6 and the final chapters boss fights.

>>16516932

It can't be, because I only started abusing it in TitS 3.

>>16517090

You really expect me to believe Renne's EXTRA didn't instantly kill a good chunk of your party before her companion bots petrified the rest until you used Kevin's EXTRA is extra the actual word of that or did it have another term to actually get past turn 1?

>>16517256

S-Break. Where did you get extra from?

>>16517334

The party ys games.

>>16522044

That one little flash guard had me worried. I hope this game won't just be flash guard after flash guard like Lacrimosa.

>>16524129

Given that the graphics seem to be a step down from CS3/4 (and look very close to Ys 8) I would keep those expectations very much in check since they probably used a lot of the same framework from 8 in 9.

>>16525106

>Lurk moar

That's not an entirely accurate statement either, Ys changes to be closer to what they viewed as their own RPG formula which they did with Ys6 and then started adapting it to their games until that was perfected as well. Ys 7 is the cut-off point for that and even then, going with an obscure way to do action games like the X-Men Legends 2 gameplay is, isn't exactly "going with what's popular". And even then, I doubt the guys at Falcom even knew about those games or Justice League Heroes which used a somewhat similar system.

>>16527545

I unironically enjoyed Falcom's attempt at a Persona far more that Persona 4 and 5 but it fell short a bit on the gameplay part, even at 60 FPS at consoles that aren't the Vita. Kickass ost and a nice dungeon layout with a nice idea about how to mix and match elements and characters isn't exactly doing much given how slow and stat-based they decided to make the gameplay. It feels like a step forward and a step back compared to Nayuta.

Worse, they could have taken more advantage of the three party members this time, with the higher fidelity models and more closed up camera to do some Over Zenith team attacks :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgYGYtAYLS8

Especially given how the SpiCa member we get, with the wings, Rion? is exactly like Juju from OZ in personality and weapon. Here's hoping that Tokyo Xanadu 2 will capitalize on that.

>>16522044

>flash guard

>oxlady doing a big skill animation while the monster was moving in slow motion, indicating fucking flash move

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

>>16524129

>>16528168

OK, where the fuck are you guys seeing this whole Flash Guard thing in this trailer? Much less fucking Oxlady when it's the fucking cat-trap?

It's obvious that the cat is using its EXTRA skill, that always stopped time even back in Ys7, just like the falcon dude does, followed by those close-ups to signify the finishing strike.

>>16528188

>literally two seconds in, big boss monster does a big swing on cat-trap

>cat trap puts hands up, with a GOLDEN visual effect

>cat trap doesn't feel shit and proceeds to use an EXTRA

I might have been wrong with the flash move, but it's clear Flash Guard is still a thing.

>>16528191

Seems more like the utterly broken guard from Ys7 rather than flash guard from 8. But fair enough.

>>16528161

I kinda wish it was a little more like Persona, in that your social stats had some effect on minor decisions and stuff throughout your daily life, maybe increasing the bond between allies if you manage to answer correctly, or get different events and whatnot.

Yeah they could've done a lot more with their setup but went with a kind of slower gameplay that still favours faster characters with faster animations. Shio takes a million fucking years to swing his sword that any opening you exploit goes away in the time he takes. I just ended up using him at range against Fire-weak enemies whenever I was forced to use him.

I doubt they'll do anything high-fidelity, at most it'll be CS3/CS4 level which is just a slight improvement in graphics. But I hope they improve the gameplay the most.

I'd rather they didn't if only because they'd be copying Persona completely at that point and erasing whatever few vestiges of Dragon Slayer and Xanadu remained beyond the name. Say whatever you want about the Kiseki series but at least it aknowledges it's a sub-series / side games to the Eiyuu Densetsu / Legend of Heroes and doesn't try to be that, even if has overturn them, just like Persona did the SMT games.

I get that rhythm, highschool-centric and waifu loaded games are now the norm for the market and it's especially marketable to otakus and non-weebs alike but I kinda miss that semi-barbaric aesthetic Xanadu used to have, even with Xanadu Next.

>>16531131

Pretty much this. Almost everyone in the industry are left-wing kool-aid drinkers who'll throw the character they act as into the ring as weapons to bash other peoples' belief just to get woke points. They don't have a second thought about doing this.

Even Brittany and Tom hold similar views. As long as it doesn't affect their work, I'm okay. Just never pay attention to their personal lives or views.

>>16531131

It's amazng how twatter and facebook just bring out the absolute fucking worst out of everybody to an uncomfortable degree. Why can't these fuckers just shut up, promote their own events only and tweet about what they ate for lunch and be done with twitter? At least they'd avoid controversies and other stupid like that.

>>16531462

Tom did kinda fuck up a forum though and turned even the admins off with his faggotry. Him appearing nice and courteous was also something that pissed people off given what happened.

>>16531504

I dunno which forum he fucked up but I do know he fucked up Neofag/ResetERA because he refused to censor the games XSeed was localizing.

>>16531516

I forget which site Tom got banned from. Was it gaf or era, or both?

>>16532557

He was banned from gaf. Don't know if he ever bothered with ResetEra or not.

Didn't know about him being banned from neofag. I was refering more to the seldane boards where he would at times go behind some people's back who had problems with some games or the way he would do posts like this :

http://seldane.proboards.com/post/190321

Yeah he appears friendly and all that but we're talking about a guy with pretender syndrome, who basically semi-took over the forum in a sly way and basically acted as a shill for his own company. It wasn't the case of a group of anons promoting their staff on their favourite forums for some P2P give-n-take, it was Tom Lipschultz, signing off with his name about what he did with the localization of the franchise and his posts often came out at a time where he worked on things, be they Ys or Akiba's trip or whatever. And the cases of supposed free time, he would take to twitter while other members who tried to grow the site or expand on the Falcom products were ignored because he would attention hog in a manner you wouldn't see directly. He did the same shit on gamefaqs as well. The man is a lying son of a bitch but damn if he isn't a good bussinessman who got a lot of suckers to buy his localized products and thank him for them as well. Some of the people eventually smelled his shit but gave up and left. Which is kind of a shame because the motherfucker stopped caring about the forum the moment he was kicked out of Xseed despite being "a very loyal Falcom fan".

Californians. Not even once.

>>16532743

The kind of shit he did on Ys I & II is just terrible.

Friendly reminder that Ares>Adol and Olga>Frieda>>Karna=Laxia>Dana.

Just wait until Adol finally crosses over with Brandish and gets the Planet Buster and he either outdoes him or they both just assrape all the motherfuckers from Brandish 2. Oh wait, I'm thinking of the eras before 2010, where Adol was still macho and Ares still existed. Still salty he was just a support in Ys vs Sora no Kiseki

>>16543222

We get it anon.

>>16543265

I was baiting for the trips

Got them and nobody cares

>>16543283

Because the Falcom threads arent filled with the people screaming at repeating digits most of the time. You got the rest of the board for that. Sage for off topic.

>>16544409

Fair enough, I fucked up. The new Darksiders Genesis seems to exude some Zwei!! vibes, except "Alwen" seems to know some gunmelee this time and has more twin-shooter styled mechanics this time instead of Mishera's magic style. Polite sage for off topic.

>>16546549

>It's not a cuhrayzee TPS starring Strife AND ONLY Strife

So these dumb fucks glossed over the coolest horseman for his standalone? This better be one of two darksiders games announced this month.

>>16548453

It's a side game until Gunfire studios make the fourth game with Strife who given what they preview is going to be a male Bayonetta with a cowboy aesthetic. This game is made by the guys who did the Battlechasers RPG game.

I'm thinking of getting one of the Zwei games during the GOG sale. Which one should I start with?

Are they tied into the larger Falcom lore at all?

Play both, the first one you can also get on the PSP if you want something to play on the fly. They're fun and enjoyable, second one especially, great levels to navigate through. The bosses had a charm to them.

How would you rate Trails in the Sky, Trails of Cold Steel and YS VIII?

>>16555772

>TitS

FC is 5/10, SC is 7/10, The 3rd is 7.5/10

>Cold Steel

FC is 4-5/10, haven't played the rest

>Ys VIII

7.5/10

>>16555772

FC: 7

SC: 8.5

Third: 8

CS 1: 7

CS 2: 7.5

>>16556482

Yeah, XSeed apparently said that's company policy. Kinda shitty, but it happened before and no one kicked up a fuss. It's just Hatsuu is someone people know and she complained about it.

>>16555772

FC: Good. Very slow once you've gotten used to the later games, especially with turbo.

SC: Great

Third: Meh. It feels like an extended epilogue within a postgame dungeon where they copypasted parts from the rest of the game to pad it out. Almost nothing in it really matters, it's all about Kevin and his new waifu. The rest might as well have been epilogue scenes in SC.

CS1: Great. People complain about too much world building but I really liked it. Ending is shit and the credits music is bad and very out of place.

CS2: Also great. It really bums me out that certain character(s?) aren't playable in the following games even though they're alive and well though.

>>16556482

What newly announced title is she talking about?

>>16556502

Is it actually company policy or did she piss off someone that she shouldn't have?

>>16555772

>TitS

FC: 7/10 Slow burn, comfy.

SC: 8/10 Faster/exciting pace, shit hitting the fan but sometimes there are moments where the pace just slows down when you do other objectives.

3rd: 7/10 Generally don't like hub/dungeon crawl RPGs but I still like the characters and their expansions to their backstories, as well as the lead up to CS and Crossbell.

>CS

CS1: 7/10 Still comfy but it's not AS slow as TitS1. It's at a nice pace. Set up similarly to TitS1 (go to new place each chapter, fix problem there, then move on) but feels more rigid due to the way its structured (with its calender and the way it returns to the school each chapter)

CS2: 8/10 Pretty much the exact same as TitS2. Shit hits the fan but has pacing problems. Really enjoyed how the ending just further makes Rean miserable.

CS1 and CS2 are an exercise in how much they can make the in-game universe hate one character.

>>16558014

>CS1 and CS2 are an exercise in how much they can make the in-game universe hate one character.

Which one?

>>16558089

Rean.

do we have a CS3 PC release date yet?

I wouldn't be surprised if XSEED did the PC port for Cold Steel 3 since NISA seemingly has abandoned PC support completely to focus on the Switch instead.

I'm currently 65 hours in on my first playthrough of TitS SC. Enjoying it more than the first game in terms of story. How important is 3rd chapter when it comes to starting Cold Steel? also how the fuck do i beat the worms that spam titanic roar in chapter 8

>>16558645

>How important is 3rd chapter when it comes to starting Cold Steel?

There are a few things in CS2 you won't get if you haven't played The 3rd.

>also how the fuck do i beat the worms that spam titanic roar in chapter 8

They only use Titanic Roar if they have been attacked since their last turn. Kill them one by one and you should be fine.

>>16558198

I feel sorry for him but also laugh at him. At the same time I want to see his journey through to the end just to know what happens to him.

What little was shown of Tales of Arise today looked like the gameplay style is similar to the party Ys games.

>>16564078

It looks like a super-ultra refined Tales of Berseria but with two players, which reminds me of a refined, faster Rogue Galaxy already but the way the story and visuals capture the essence of Star Ocean 3 and Shining Wind is uncanny with the blade coming out a beautiful girl etc. I almost expected the SEGA logo to come out saying "Shining Wind 2 IN SPACE : Starring Killrain with an eyepatch this time".

>ID 212e68

>ID d682e0

Is Cold Steel worth it? It's the only I haven't bothered with because I know it's stil ongoing and I want to catch it all on PC for undubs and either a patch or try to Roshambo my way through the game with what little moonrunes I know? Is the /m/echa combat cool?

>>16570743

>>16564078

I think it looks pretty good so far. I think there'll be more party members and they just showed the main two, but who knows. Maybe it'll be like Trails where each chapter new characters join and leave at the end.

The main character did at least one skill that I recognize from Graces at least. Really wish it just had Graces gameplay but it'll probably be a variation of Berseria's.

>>16570743

What >>16570844 said

Storywise the first two's structures are similar to the first and second Crossbell games if you've played that. You have a main "hub" that you go back to at the beginning of every chapter where you can talk to people and do some quests, and during every chapter you go to a new area in the country, and do the rest of quests there. Like TitS1, CS1 is all about building up the world and the slowly rising conflict between factions. CS2 is that conflict exploding (though one of my complaints is that I wish it exploded MORE).

Nissan's botched version of Cold Steel 3 confirmed for September 24th NA September 27th Europe.