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512535  No.16290179

is there any tips or advice I should know before jumping in and starting this game? I beat the tutorial easy enough but have no idea how to build my character. I chose Tonfas and Odachi for my first weapons.

8098fa  No.16290197

>>16290179

Use your ki, tonfas are generally not that good, and being a ninja is fucking fun as hell.


fb187c  No.16290201

Could William beat Dante?


9b0c29  No.16290244

>>16290179

min maxing is actually bad, just put points into everything, wear armor that is light enough to dodge but heavy enough to withstand blows


ee6890  No.16290257

>>16290244

What no Minmaxing is great. Fucking just maxing ninjutsu and dexterity can beat the entire game hands down

That aside Never use sloth talismans unless you're a pussy


a3166b  No.16290473

File: 27981cb26d3a9e4⋯.png (2.93 MB, 1600x900, 16:9, Nioh_-_Complete_Edition_Sc….png)

>>16290179

>Tonfas and Odachi

That's an odd combination. To make tonfas work you really need to get one of the specialty tonfa (in your case probably Kyakuja Tonfa since Odachi is an anti human weapon) and you need to unlock all of the tonfa skills as quickly as possible. The ability to quickly drop in and out and back in to living weapon will help you immensely.

I hope you chose Kato.

>>16290257

Minmax but have fun doing it. Don't just go for the most high efficiency cheesy builds, instead go for a fun specialty like a mage, or a gunner, or an elemental warrior.


512535  No.16290487

>>16290473

I chose Kato. I figured with the Tonfas being good for fast paced one on one combat, and the Odachi being slow but dealing heavy damage and having the sweeping hits to take on groups I’d be well suited for whatever the early game threw at me.

Also, is this a game where eventually all my stats will be evened out or is it one where you’ll make multiple saves?


512535  No.16290489

>>16290197

Some anon posted footage of playing as a ninja and that’s what convinced me to get the game over Sekiro.


fb187c  No.16290496

>>16290489

>get it OVER Sekiro

Dude it's like 3 years old.


512535  No.16290516

>>16290496

I’m usually late to the party.


483cd1  No.16290519

>>16290489

You did well, I'm playing through sekiro and finding it a mess of game design, while Nioh got me hooked when it was released.


4093f4  No.16290573

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>>16290179

You're way too late to the party, but here.

>Practice and do all Dojo/Tutorial missions

>Practice your stance switching and ki burst

>Do a specialize build or a jack of all trades, anything can work towards the end game towards Abyss floor 999

>Get a feel of each weapon types, ninjutsu and omnyo magic, any tactic and strategy works

>Do not get too attached to your gear, you'll outgrow them till you get to Way of the Nioh

>Certain missions are great for farming gold or amrita, Marobashi and Restless Spirits are a much

>Invest on your Guardian Spirits

That's about it


a3166b  No.16290612

File: a0ef79e20ccc54f⋯.jpg (76.14 KB, 1920x1200, 8:5, kato (2).jpg)

>>16290487

>I chose Kato.

Good. That's going to make a particular upcoming mission much easier. Do not neglect the usefulness of living weapon. Also try to complete your armor sets so you can get set bonuses.

> I figured with the Tonfas being good for fast paced one on one combat, and the Odachi being slow but dealing heavy damage and having the sweeping hits to take on groups

I mostly said it was an odd choice because they scale of of very different stats and you might put yourself at a disadvantage trying to level for both at once. Fortunately respec books exist so you can't really screw up your playthrough.

Just fyi Odachi and axes or tonfa and 2 kat are both choices that would synergize better in case you decide to change later. It's really up to you though.


e3d008  No.16290654

File: b901a564eadbf0c⋯.png (340.5 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, That video has a goldmine ….png)

Haven't played either Nioh or Sekiro, but will leagl buy one. Is Nioh really the educated anon's first choice?


483cd1  No.16290671

>>16290654

Sekiro is a half-baked stealth game built upon a souls game. Nioh is full-on crazy with ludicrous replayability and lots of wildly different movesets due to each weapon being unique and having three stances. Enemy variety can seem low when you're on NG+3 and diablo loot is present, but those are really the only two flaws Nioh has.

Oh, and also Sekiro has a bland fantasy version of sengoku era Japan while Nioh fully integrates historical figures into its story, so if you're a sengoku era buff the choice is even clearer.


d1794e  No.16290673

Having a toaster is suffering.


ee6890  No.16290682

>>16290654

Sekiro is unironically a bad game. It has moments where you think "oh this could be nice" only to shatter them. The stealth is so incredibly tacked on, and the actual combat doesn't change from start to finish. It tries to be too many things and as a result fails at all of them.


bda099  No.16290685

>>16290654

Nioh is a pretty strong case of you hate it or you love it. It depends on how the combat and weapon playstyle variety can make you overlook the very glaring flaws the game has.


512535  No.16290708

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16290573

>>16290612

Gotcha, so it sounds like I need to focus on one playstyle instead of switching between the two for now as a jack of all trades style may be easier later, either go fast and light damage, or slow and heavy. I may restart the game to have a more focused character seeing as I haven’t even gotten to the first real boss yet. I appreciate the help.

>>16290654

This was the video that really killed Sekiro for me.


d1794e  No.16290721

>>16290708

Isn't this practically just a faster version of any of the shitty "mob" bosses from DS2/3?


512535  No.16290729

>>16290721

Eyup, but you’ve only got one weapon to R1 spam with and the constant breaks for kill animations really got to me. I think From should have really focused on making it an action game like MGR or Ninja Gaiden than a faster Souls game with less options.


ee6890  No.16290734

>>16290721

Why yes, but it's also a gimmick fight, because the mobs don't even really attack aside to summon a tree where you can stealth kill them from over and over. And after that it's entirely a fucking gimmick fight and this is the "finale cinematic" boss. The actual final boss is a duel with a man… who crawls out of another man? I don't know why this happens.


39f0b5  No.16290736

How are Tachi or No-Dachi or whatever the fuck "sword but longer" is called?


d1794e  No.16290742

>>16290729

>>16290734

I see. So the choice here for PC ninja vidya is Nioh, which last time I tried my toaster wouldn't even run it and it would crash on startup. How much of a beefy rig is needed to run Nioh and other games that are irrelevant to this thread?


a3166b  No.16290776

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>>16290708

Jack of all trades is possible once you get to NG+ but for your first time through the game you should focus on a particular play style at any given time.

>I may restart the game to have a more focused character

DON'T DO THAT. Just respec. In fact if probably don't even need to do that considering how early you are in the game. Just use the loot drops to change your equipment.

>>16290736

Odachi. It's pretty good. It has the spear's range but it's slower. It's basically a heavy weapon with anti human skills, where as axes are heavy weapons with anti youkai skills. You basically need to use heavy armor to support them, at least early on though.


ee6890  No.16290796

>>16290742

Nioh is randomly toaster friendly but also super punishing. Some older cards can run it fine, others it'll just explode the card.

>>16290736

It's pretty alright, it's more focused on anti-human skills which sometimes plays to it's detriment because human enemies are typically much faster. It's moveset is fairly slow and it's damage against non-humans is middling at best.


39f0b5  No.16290799

>>16290776

>>16290796

Do you use multiple weapons or is sticking with just an odachi OK?


ee6890  No.16290803

>>16290799

You should use two to three weapon types and swap off. But typically you'll have one weapon be your "main" on lower difficulties.


39f0b5  No.16290815

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>>16290803

So what would be a good offweapon if I use an odachi? Also if I have two swords will I get that great 2sword aesthetic?


d3af7d  No.16290821

>tfw still haven't gotten through Nioh despite really liking it

I really just want to specialize in Iai-strikes like I could in Way of The Samurai, not enough games let you well time Iai-strike as a main means of combat.


39f0b5  No.16290823

>>16290776

> You basically need to use heavy armor to support them, at least early on though.

Wait hold on

Armor matters?


ee6890  No.16290826

>>16290815

2 swords is probably the weakest choice early on one strat excluded. But you can make it work. Other good choices are Axe or 1 sword though. 1 Sword is a good all around weapon that doesn't excel in one area over other weapons.

>>16290823

Armor is huge, it determines your poise, your stamina recovery and also is a flat mod to damage. Heavy vs light armor is the difference between 20 hits or 3 hits early on.


a3166b  No.16290829

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>>16290796

>It's moveset is fairly slow and it's damage against non-humans is middling at best.

Which is another reason why pairing it with an axe is a good idea.

>>16290799

I didn't use the Odachi until later since it didn't exist when I first started playing the game but I respeced into it for it later and played through most of the three DLC areas using one. I'd say the biggest issue for using one from the beginning is that you don't get any set bonus supporting armor that supports Odachi until late in the main game. Tanenashi armor. Even then it's not stickly an Odachi armor but it sinks up very well with them.

>Do you use multiple weapons

I pretty much always kept an Onikaba kusarigami in my second weapon slot through out my entire time at Nioh, for reasons.

>>16290823

>Armor matters?

OH GOD YES. In multiple ways.


ee6890  No.16290841

>>16290823

Oh right it's also worth noting that unlike a fromsoft game NG+ actually changes the game fairly significantly each cycle. so NG++ changes in a fairly large way from NG+ and so on. NG and NG+ are the most similar but after that it changes a lot more.


39f0b5  No.16290869

>>16290829

>>16290841

Right, thanks. Should be installed in half an hour.

Last question; If I'm going Odachi-axe what moves should I focus on getting?


ee6890  No.16290886

>>16290869

Get your dodges and ki-pulses first. After that just fill in whatever moves you think look cool. By the end of the game you'll have more than enough samurai points to do basically whatever.

One thing to note is that Odachi has a fantastic living weapon, Ninjutsu is basically for having a refillable ranged weapon unless you spec super hard into it, and Omnyo magic is for buffs more than damage.


c29396  No.16290903

Dodge shit, special moves are generally 1 hit only with most weapons, invest in onmyo & ninjitsu to what works for you, RNG IS NOT YOUR FRIEND, avoid fire, change armor and weapons and anything else if it seems better.

Otherwise basic shit you'll get better as you go, avoid that temple level with all the holes My eyes are shit so I had to turn on reflections so I could see the moon. It made the level bearable but I died tons of times 'cos my shit eyesight


39f0b5  No.16291010

If any anons play this on the PC after reading this thread and the game freezes up constantly, try plugging in a control or using a virtual controller. Apparently the game fucks up if it doesn't have that. You can still play with M+KB if you want.


762582  No.16291083

>>16290573

>Do not get too attached to your gear, you'll outgrow them till you get to Way of the Nioh

This tip is pretty wierd since the forge mechanic encurages you to pick your favorite gear akd have it follow you through the game. I guess it doesn't do a good job of it with how expensive it can be to do that. oh sure you can reforge its stats to get some nice damage boosters, but now it costs millions to soul match it so much as five levels up. even with the proper soul cost reduction gear, it can still be a steep price on a first-time playthrough.


a8475c  No.16291084

>>16290654

Nioh is probably cheaper for starters and also offers replay value with gear, drops, weapon variety and builds. Secondly, Sekiro is kind of poor. Tacked on stealth to what feels like Bloodborne on NG+4 but you never upgraded your stats or weapons. I hate to say it because I will incur the wrath of Fromfags, but it is the kind of hard that is not fun.


ff123a  No.16291094

>>16291083

>forge mechanic encurages(sic) you to pick your favorite gear akd(sic) have it follow you through the game

More like the forge mechanic lets you keep your head above the equipment baseline so you're never without an opportunity to earn better gear. Forge costs increase exponentially by the amount of times you've modified it, until you hit the point where you can get ethereal equipment with the divine affix "reset no. of soul matches." which will bypass that restriction.


9cc4bc  No.16291153

>>16290869

You should also try to use multiple stances. With axe/odachi it's very tempting to just stay in high stance all the time and hammer enemies to death, but using the right stance (and weapon) at the right time will make you far more effective. Don't worry too much about picking the wrong samurai skills either, you can respec them as well and respecs are easy enough to get.


a8475c  No.16291164

>>16291153

I was guilty of high stancing axes too much on my first playthrough. That heavy attack was pure bliss against the standard buff Oni dudes with the horns. It fucked their shit up because it hit their horns and immediately downed them.


108cc3  No.16291173

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>>16290179

>third image

What the fuck are you doing?


8ac387  No.16291318

Being a ninja is fun as fuck and kinda easy. Your ninjutsu and the kusarigama weapons scale off the same stat. Ninja item usage is quick unlike items and spells in Souls games. Onmyo magic is also fast relative to most spells in Souls games. Eventually you can get paralysis poison, with accompanying gas bomb and shuriken. Ninja also get status effect during medicine and buffs because why the fuck not.

Ranged weapons are insanely good in this game which is why ammo is relatively scarce. You can kill most enemies with a headshot and severely wound demons by shooting their weak point.

Get used to changing stances within the first few levels. It's not strictly necessary in those levels, but it will help you a lot. Low stance has the best dodge with the most iframes and high stance is the "worst" although it has a longer distance. Generally you want to switch to high stance before doing a combo if you have a good window. Mid stance is good for fighting multiple enemies and fighting defensively. I found myself mostly switching between low and high stance with sword. Mid stance is more useful with kusarigama.

I found sword to be highly enjoyable in this game. My friend had issues with his sword and spear build but I'm unsure as to why. Maybe ninjutsu really have made my game that much easier?


8ac387  No.16291328

>>16291318

>status effect during

Meant curing, fuck.


bd5fe2  No.16291388

>>16291318

So I should go first playthrough as a ninja, almost like it's easy modo, then pick whatever else?

Also would anyone have a seeded version of the 1.24.2 update, preferably not the IGG one?


a8475c  No.16291411

>>16291388

Do what you like first playthrough. I didn't even use onmyo and ninjitsu my first time, I wanted to be a pure warrior and used axes for about 80% of the game. I even went with C agility like an idiot.


c83e13  No.16291556

>>16291318

The basic enemies you encounter in the first few levels are kind of designed to reward you for switching stances intelligently, at least with standard weapons - half your attacks miss on Dwellers unless you use low stance, Bandits are probably best dealt with in mid stance, and Yoki are a lot easier if you cut their horns in high stance.


1ac26e  No.16291605

>>16290179

Prepare for asset reuse and bullshit double or triple boss fights in the late game.


39f0b5  No.16292028

>>16291556

How does one switch stances intelligently?

The tutorial says shit like low stance is good for blocking. How does it affect blocking?


8b4594  No.16292062

>>94566

Once you start playing the game and get used to your weapons and start fighting harder and harder human enemies you'll either just get your shit pushed in or learn how to switch stances CONSTANTLY.

The efficacy of each stance depends on what weapons and skills you're using. You'll just get a feel for what moves and stances work against which enemies. Get used to switching stances and ki pulsing religiously though. You will get fucked so hard by the infinite ki humans and double bosses later if you don't get a grip on this shit


ca9d60  No.16292064

>>16292028

Just stick to one stance you are comfortable with and switch when you learn its moves. Basically low stance is the fastest and high stance is the slowest, but there are different moves. If you fight enemy who id fucking you in the ass, try switching stance, it usually works. And than when you learn different moves and how to ki-pulse effectively than you can start switching stances intelligently.

Otherwise just try out them and stick to one until it stops working for you.

>How does it affect blocking

In small way. High stance uses more stamina for everything and low stance uses less, but you can pretty much ignore that for the most part unless you want to be 100% efficient.


c83e13  No.16292088

>>16292028

Mid stance is good for blocking, meaning that you lose less ki when blocking attacks. Low stance is good for dodging, its dodges are the cheapest and it's the only stance that can infinitely chain the fast step dodges. High stance is all offense and has no real defensive advantages.


bd5fe2  No.16292095

>Nioh finally launches

>It runs like ass

What did I expect.


a3166b  No.16292167

>>16290869

Just remember to get some medium or heavy armor to wear and you'll be fine. Just watch you equipment weight encumbrance. You'll probably want to start off with medium or a medium heavy blend to keep you out of the red or yellow weight limits.


2851e4  No.16292213

>>16291318

Low stance has the worst dodge in terms of iframes. High stance has the most iframes. Mid stance is in-between because your first dodge is a dash like low stance but if you quickly hit the button again you do a high stance roll.

Another thing to keep in mind to further differentiate stances is ki pulses.

Low stance has the cheapest dodges but low stance ki pulse makes your next dodge cost no ki. Mid stance does have a natural ki cost reduction in blocking and the ki pulse also makes your next block free. High stance obviously has your highest damage moves and the ki pulse raises the damage of your next attack.

One unfortunate thing about Nioh is translation errors. And this is probably the biggest one since you get this mechanic in the first level.

I think a lot of people would have done better against Onryoki if they knew that mid stance ki pulse made your next block free. Onryoki does a lot of single, hard-hitting attacks that do absolutely nothing if you attack a couple times then ki pulse to block his retaliation.

Mid stance ki pulse also makes Nurikabe extremely easy as well because they only do single hit high ki damage attacks which again will do absolutely nothing to your ki bar if you block using mid stance ki pulses.


a3166b  No.16292249

>>16292213

>One unfortunate thing about Nioh is translation errors.

Pronounced "Giant Toad"


2851e4  No.16292300

>>16292249

The big ones are the descriptions saying every ki pulse increases your attack when it's a different buff specific to each stance.

Another big one is "invulnerability after getting hit by an enemy evasion/dash attack." It's immunity when YOU do it not when enemies do it.

There's a couple others I can't remember.


39f0b5  No.16292332

>>16292300

It seems like in general the game is very badly documented


a3166b  No.16292342

>>16292300

They also forget to state that some of the self-buff skills cause different effects depending on which stance that you are in when you activate them.


1c8de7  No.16292354


0dc14d  No.16292363

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>>16291173

Got any more Fuku fanart?

Or Ginchiyo?

Anything but Okatsu please. She is a whore.


2851e4  No.16292393

>>16292332

A lot of success I had with Nioh is the pooling of knowledge everyone created from trial-and-error or rigorously testing specific things.

People tried different builds/armor sets, different movesets and combos. It's one thing I like about Nioh. The game can be as good or bad as you want it all depends on how much of the game you're willing to explore.

I have about 1,200 hours of Nioh combined between PS4 and PC. I've learned so much by trying new things. I'm a spear main and there are two core mechanics I use in spear gameplay now that I never used at all for those first 1,000 hours.

I always thought Twirl, the parry move, was shit and could never get the timing down so I never used it. I always used Entangle, the trip move. I eventually did a playthrough with every weapon to see if I liked anything other than spear. By virtue of playing every weapon I memorized and understood every moveset on every weapon for every stance. Most regular human enemies outside stuff like bandits use the exact same moveset you would with the corresponding weapon.

I decided one day to really try and learn the parry move. Knowing every weapon combo helped me a lot in figuring out the timing window for each weapon. I've picked out which "hit" on each combo is easiest for me to hit the parry window and now it's my bread and butter against human enemies. I don't fight them anymore, be aggressive to whittle, or trade back and forth. I wait for certain hits in combos and parry everyone. It feels so satisfying one shotting every human enemy with it. It makes the Ten Braves extremely easy because the fights are instantly over the second I parry and stab them on the ground. I've even expanded this to moves I can't specifically use like bosses. Okatsu's charge up move I can parry which makes her extremely simple, Hanzo always do a charging overhead swing so I parry that, Sasuke has a responding attack he does if you are close and hit him and it's a bit slow so I parry that.

The other thing that changed for me is going from Spearfall to Piercing Rain. When I first unlocked Spearfall on my first playthrough I had no idea why anyone would ever use Piercing Rain. Piercing Rain locks you into an animation that leaves you wide open. Spearfall consistently breaks horns and will faceplant a human enemy on the last hit if they don't block it allowing for a critical backstab.

I've gotten to the point of Way of the Nioh where I like using the confusion debuff when I want to overkill big yokai bosses or red enemies instead of fighting them like normal. Piercing Rain is extremely good at putting elemental status on enemies because it's so many thrusts/hits that it builds up fast. I like to afflict an element with onmyo and follow up with Piercing Rain to get confusion on enemies extremely quickly. I also can parry now so I don't need Spearfall for those consistent enemy knockdowns when Twirl does it for me.

Stuff like that is why I enjoy Nioh so much because I thought I had everything figured out but I'm still learning new stuff every time I play.


44b1da  No.16292431

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>>16290179

>playing badkiro


fb187c  No.16292732

>>16292431

Astroturfing kike


a3166b  No.16292737

File: 05628d2c3b7617c⋯.jpg (75.66 KB, 608x608, 1:1, senji-tome.jpg)

>>16292363

Why not Tome?


c6bba4  No.16292781

You can respec fairly easily, but you can't change the bonuses you get from starting choices EVER. I forget the best options.

I hope 2 lets you play as a loli. Tome a cute.


c6bba4  No.16292817

Reminder that official descriptions for Nioh 2 confirm it's set in the Sengoku era.

>>16290799

One option for the multiple melee weapons is to make your offhand weapon almost exclusively for completing set bonuses. The best example of this is Warrior of the West giving a bonus to electric damage but requiring the water damage Nami-oyogi Kanemitsu. Unless you're fighting an enemy strong against electricity, you will use Raikiri (electric damage) almost exclusively.

This is actually my favorite in-game build. Warrior of the West is fairly easy to obtain and quite common on dead players so you can skip actually upgrading it yourself.


a8475c  No.16292873

>>16292732

Wrong thread Fromdrone.


0dc14d  No.16292908

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>>16292737

Nothing wrong with her too, there's just a criminal lack of fan art for this game entirely.


ee6890  No.16293170

>>16292781

It's only a few stat points, it don't matter in the long run


37d9e1  No.16293306

File: b0f8b0b80ab1bd2⋯.png (414.96 KB, 456x810, 76:135, absolutely SOLID.png)

>>16292363

>>16291173

What are these pants called and who is the absolute genius that designed them?

Every time I think I'm becoming too much of a weeb I realize there's a good fucking reason why I like the things I do.


39f0b5  No.16293325

>>16293306

I call them the "I'm not wearing panties" pants


4d14ca  No.16293359

>>16290654

Sekiro

>simple combat, the posture mechanic dictates the flow of battle

>no weapon variety, you will use the katana the entire game, and maybe some prosthetic upgrades

>parrying is strongly encouraged

>has a marginal variety of enemies; sword guys, gun guys, axe guys, bow guys, ninjas, monks, and some animals

>multi-phase boss battles that require you to git gud

While the combat is simple in this game, it's still pretty engaging, because one mistake can mean the difference between life or death, and the enemy movesets are pretty consistent, so it never feels like you're being forced to face unreasonable challenges. It's like an alternate version of bloodborne combat; no shields, fast enemies that deal huge damage, and very heavily focused on avoiding damage and parrying.

Nioh

>complex combat with different weapon types and stances

>stamina management

>gear determines things like defense and damage output; enemies do not scale with your equipment so you can go back to earlier areas and fuck shit up like a hot knife through butter

>leveling and stats progression

>about the same amount of enemy variety as Sekiro

>bosses that are hard when you initially fight them but are pushovers once you get good gear

The combat in this game is what truly shines. If you want to play "samurai souls" then this is probably your best bet. Sekiro is more like asscreed but with better combat.


d85342  No.16293394

>>16290179

First, you can respec your character basically for free once your about halfway through the game. Dont be afraid to rework your stats a couple times till you get the build you want.

Second if you dont complete the stupid dojo training missions you wont have access to higher level ninjisu and omnyo magic so complete that shit whenever available.

Some other anon said this in another thread, but it stood out as true: in souls borne gamed you fear the combat, love the levels. In nioh you fear the level and love the combat.


85c212  No.16293516

>>16290487

I beat the game with the odachi and tonfa, but honestly I mostly just used the odachi because it kicked ass and was versatile enough in fast stance for lighter enemies, and damaging to large enemies with heavy stance. Odachi is #1 even though the game mostly wants you to use katanas.


c83e13  No.16293574

Any tips on dealing with Namahage using 1kat? I'm having trouble consistently hitting the horns, and their moveset has weird delays that belong in DS2 instead of Nioh, which throws me off all the time in a straight fight.

>>16293306

That's exaggerated hakama, also known as the kind of pants or skirts you'd expect samurai/mikos to wear. Their vastly inferior real life counterparts have smaller hip vents, with other clothes worn underneath.


a3166b  No.16293601

File: b7405d1c5dee3e8⋯.png (771.33 KB, 1066x886, 533:443, onmyo_mages_suikan_set.png)

>>16293574

>>16293306

The version that Will wears is much less revealing.


7e0eb0  No.16293607

>>16290519

>>16290489

Nioh combat and item management is complete trash though?

Even level design is basic as fuck


a3166b  No.16293722

>>16293607

>Nioh combat…is complete trash though?

Combat in Nioh is fun as fuck.

>item management

Why do so many people have such a problem with Nioh's loot system?

>Even level design is basic as fuck

The silver mine is really the only bad level.


67b0d6  No.16293752

>>16290729

That particular battle is shit, but every game has a couple of shit parts. Yes one weapon and limited attack options (there are still a few) is a negative, but combat is more focused around reaction and pressure rather than trying to poke the enemy from a safe spot, so the weapon animations aren't really all that important.

I've heard the complaint about finishers a lot, but they are really quick. It's not like everything pauses for 10 seconds so he can rip the enemies spine out and pose with it or something like certain other games (though there's some like that for major bosses). It's no slower than a strong attack (and quite a bit faster than DaS heavy weapon animations), the only real difference is that you get invulnerability frames during it. They are less a cinimatic moment that you should be getting tired of, and more just a core component of combat no more or less overused than swinging the sword.


ee6890  No.16293797

>>16293752

You're right he pauses for 4 seconds after 90% of the enemies if you hit R1. It's much less optional than in MGR where you have to enter a specific mode for it. The combat itself has absolutely no finesse to it. It's shallow because your options are so absurdly limited you can't even try to show off if you want to. It's DS3 but with none of the character options. The AI being pants on head retarded because it's DS3's. The game tries to be a jack of all trades, but falls flat in every aspect. Exploration is about as normal as any souls game, the story had no reason to have an MC and not just a create-a-character with how little wolf actually does, the combat's shallow, and the stealth is so much of a tacked on afterthought it's horrible.

Honestly sekiro has to be the worst game from has put out in a good while, and that's upsetting because I liked Tenchu and the souls series and then they just combined them in the most half assed way possible creating an awful product that's at best a 4/10.


7e0eb0  No.16293885

>>16293722

>Combat in Nioh is fun

>Pressing a button mid combat to recover KI is fun

>Killing everything with the Odachi is fun

>Recycling everything and newrly forcing you to replay entire map sections is fun

Combat is like a Musou but you have to press a button mid combo.


37d9e1  No.16293916

File: 8485c9e0da8f7c8⋯.png (38.85 KB, 199x200, 199:200, 1452866876091.png)

>>16293885

>Combat is like a Musou

what the fuck are you smoking


ee6890  No.16293927

>>16293916

The same shit that makes sekiro a masterpiece apparently


bda099  No.16293952

>>16293885

>Pressing a button mid combat to do an action mid combat

The audacity of these niggers to make me use the controller to play the game


108cc3  No.16293967

File: f3ccb99bf9da119⋯.jpg (541.31 KB, 800x1000, 4:5, 61352220_p0.jpg)

File: 71b3cab69bd8b88⋯.jpg (1.05 MB, 3840x2160, 16:9, https___desktophdwallpaper….jpg)

File: 19c962a08488c40⋯.jpg (290.77 KB, 1000x1389, 1000:1389, tumblr_oz85v7QUaf1skjsqyo3….jpg)

File: fd113866dc33074⋯.jpg (131.21 KB, 752x1063, 752:1063, 1293da81196ad6feaaa2e347bf….jpg)

>>16292363

There's bizarrely little fanart of the game in general. It sold more than two million copies and there's barely more than a page on Pixiv. I looked through the tumblr tag all the way back to launch out of curiosity and it took about ten minutes. I feel like I stumbled across a money laundering scheme.

One autistic drawing of Tomoe, three decent drawings of Fuku, zero of Ginchyo.

>>16293306

Hip windows are a gift.


7cc365  No.16294166

File: 7068319be576e67⋯.gif (846.06 KB, 540x540, 1:1, 7068319be576e679421f4a4855….gif)

>>16293952

>not using mouse and keyboard

lol check out this gay


a3166b  No.16295722

File: 5688e80b59cf2e2⋯.mp4 (2.95 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Musou Stars _ William (Nio….mp4)

>>16293885

>Combat is like a Musou

No this is how Nioh would be if it had Musou like combat.


a50e08  No.16309915

New guy from earlier again.

I've only got a few chances to play Nioh lately due to a timed beta dropping and being obligated to play with friends, then being bought a game and being obligated to play that with friends, and also I've worked every day since I last posted.

I'm only on the third map in Kyushu, did both missions in the first map, the vampire cunt main mission in the second, and I've died twice to the lightning possum.

My leveling progression has been all over the place. Initially I leveled strength in order to make my Odachi better, but it does fuckall. Then I leveled stamina I think for equipment load so I could wear full heavy. Still haven't got there, but I'm close.

Now I'm leveling magic and skill, however, to get specific onmyo and ninjutsu shit, like sloth, the healing one, and more elixir.

Is my schizo progression going to be an issue, or will it be OK to get enough magic and skill to do what I need then heavy armor then pump damage?

Also FUCK the vampire cunt. I died like 5 times before I realized how bad C agility was, then equipped two pieces of medium armor and killed her on the second or third try.

>Single strike breaks block

>If I don't block the combo will kill me if I'm not at full health

>got HITBOXED.COM with an instant kill ONE FUCKING HIT from killing her with like 7 elixir left


aacb49  No.16311299

File: 831c0cf89ace595⋯.jpg (153.03 KB, 852x539, 852:539, Blank _62d39026fbea88b3a0d….jpg)

>>16309915

switch to low stance anon, you can dash almost infinitely with much better i-frames


39f0b5  No.16313346

>>16311299

High fast->low heavy attack is something I really like right now. Decent damage and lets me get tthe fuck away.

Should I be doing all side missions?


ee6890  No.16313372

>>16313346

yeah, they give you shit usually. More spirits, more exp, some give set above average loot. You can skip some of the ones in later areas that are just boss rushes though, they give jack shit and were added on as free DLC after the first two weeks the game was out


37d9e1  No.16313489

The more I play Sekiro the more I actually want to play Nioh.


39f0b5  No.16313553

>>16313372

After doing a few I think I view them as a slightly more natural farming of elixir


a8475c  No.16313638

>>16313489

A lot of people seem to feel that way. Perhaps if it wasn't fantasy Japan with weapons and magic there wouldn't be so many comparisons.

>>16313372

This. Some of those later missions are just bullshit. Bosses thrown in together despite not being made to fight together. I literally had one last one to do but couldn't do it. If I stayed with the game I could have leveled up in NG+ and beyond to go back and beat it.


b384f6  No.16313781

File: e9d0e0395da2fcd⋯.jpg (16.34 KB, 600x600, 1:1, Try Harder Faggot.jpg)

>>16293607

>>16293885

You're either a retarded casual or Sekiro shill.


0dc14d  No.16314136

File: 33d36b9b19bb06b⋯.jpg (66.81 KB, 463x562, 463:562, Some kind of joke.jpg)

>>16293885

>>Killing everything with the Odachi is fun

>Odachi

>killing anything at all


c30d86  No.16314190

post okatsu's feet


271dda  No.16314274

File: ac1fa5ce1a57171⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 242.64 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, pepe-sensei.jpg)

>>16290489

Nioh is fun, has way more content, a better story, feels more fleshed out than Sekiro and it also has A giant frog boss.


a8475c  No.16315409

>>16314190

>tfw no rule 34 for Nioh outside of about four pictures

>tfw no SFM/Blender of the sexy girls


2d0d27  No.16315443

>>16314274

>toads are frogs


39f0b5  No.16316560

Moonlit snow's damage is underwhelming, is there anything in particular I should be doing to scale it up?


96844d  No.16316752

>>16290654

If you're going to legally acquire without the exchange of currency, probably Nioh unless you dislike equipment-based progression.

Nioh is fun and has a more varied combat system, 7(?) weapon types and each one has 3 stances, weapon switching in combos, special attacks, and 3 ranged weapon types, then you have magic and ninjutsu which add a ton of other options. It's pretty fuckin stylish. It lacks enemy variety and has level select so you can replay areas and refight bosses whenever, but after you beat the first two difficulties, pretty much all of your character progression is getting better loot.

Sekiro's combat is really simple, but it forces you to get good. you have a normal attack you can charge to do a thrust, a special attack button, your prosthetic, a jump, and an enemy step, and a block/deflect button. The game encourages you to stay on enemies, attacking whenever you can, and deflecting, guarding, or evading whatever the enemy attacks with. You have to get good with what you have and once you do, the game rolls over for you outside of the late-game bossfights. Both games are kind of weak on enemy variety, but Sekiro's final boss is the raddest shit.


0dc14d  No.16317182

File: 2e24c1f1a9c3301⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 2.23 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 70675299_p2.png)

>>16315409

Some chink ported Okatu's head to honey select, but you have to pay him to use it.

Fucking chinks.


a3166b  No.16317237

>>16314136

gitto gudo


37d9e1  No.16317303

>>16317182

>but you have to pay him to use it.

The asian jew strikes again.


a64ea4  No.16317496

I'm going to play Nioh and see how it is. I expect fun.


a3166b  No.16317540

>>16317496

Remember not to sell or deconstruct your fancy hats!


ffe9e2  No.16317553

>>16317182

How much we talking? and is it like a addon package or something?


a64ea4  No.16317561

>>16317540

This starts in London? Wow, I had no idea, this is cool to be in a 1600 year setting.


569777  No.16317606

>its still like 20€

Fucking kikes


a64ea4  No.16317684

I now have a full set of plate armor, I never imagined I would wear that in Nioh. Died earlier to executioner, but with this it should be easier.


a3166b  No.16317715

File: 9ecce2d97739511⋯.png (1.08 MB, 1066x886, 533:443, tower_of_london_guard_set.png)

>>16317684

The plate armor is nice but personally I like the other European set better. fyi there's also a few sets of Japanese platemail as well that you can get later.


0dc14d  No.16317739

File: 1d50256eb37a6d4⋯.jpg (154.16 KB, 633x900, 211:300, Happy chinese Merchant2.jpg)

>>16317553

I have no clue, using google translate on his pixiv profile shows that he'll only talk about it in private messages. He uses machine translations on some images on his pixiv account, so maybe he might attempt to do business with an english speaker.

The sad part is there's multiple modders like this for lewd games who import models from other games and charge money for them.

Here's his pixiv if you want to be a madman and actually try buying it. https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=20157127

Good luck, and try asking if he has Fuku and Ginchiyo too please.

Speaking about chinks, I would encounter a lot of them in co-op. They were completely fucking retarded and only used the Red Demon set without a fire element spear, the kind of weapon that set wants you to use. They'd use stupid shit with it like a water odachi.


a64ea4  No.16317746

>>16317715

Nice. Went Odachi + Spear, I was itching for sword though but we'll see.


a64ea4  No.16317812

There are Tanegashimas, oooo. This is going to be fun.


a3166b  No.16317836

>>16317746

Which starter pokemon did you choose?


a64ea4  No.16317884

>>16317836

Fire for more strength. I like the progression of skills you can choose, Odachi has lots of attack skills.


a64ea4  No.16317888

>You can run on the shore line

>keep running

>falls into the abyss


a8475c  No.16319346

>>16317739

Some anon be a hero and open the door for Nioh girls porn.


15ba77  No.16323478

Does anyone have any tips as to how to utilise/get used to stance switching system? I really enjoy the game and the combat system, variety of weapons/skills, but I often find myself playing pretty much in one stance. Switching stances on the go feels incredibly clunky/unintuitive and I always get fumbled by it.

inb4: git gud. Thing is, I never feel like I need to use the stances, as the game is relatively easy and so far never had any real problems, though I'm on ng++ only, so maybe that will change later. I want to learn, because it's getting a bit boring to spam same 4 or so skills again and again. Would like to go for more style/variety over substance.

I used to play tera the mmo, and it was the most enjoyable combat I had to play with. And, in my opinion, more difficult as a game overall. In tera skills had shortcuts, but games like nioh have combos only and in this case the controls are actually utter shit, can't rebind anything in any meaningful way. Especially the camera and target switching, if you move the mouse even 1pixel the entire screen starts spazzing out. Also fps/physics lock. I find nioh combat somewhat similar to tera, and I love the setting too. It's sad that nioh is such a letdown by technical problems. Any other fight that is not 1v1 feels like incredible chore, because I have to fight camera and then after struggling through it, I can again, enjoy the game for the rest of the fight.


37d9e1  No.16323516

>>16323478

>got to ng++ without learning how to play with stance switching

Jesus Christ that sounds boring and annoying as fuck. Use the tonfas if you haven't yet. They'll force you to use everything and become a whirlwind of sticks.


da1743  No.16323880

Got the game on sale, just beat the Hino-Enma fight; holy hell was that fun as fuck, I do agree that it probably shouldn't have been quite so early though. I still don't feel entirely on top of ki-pulses, I'm mostly just hitting the button after every combo and hoping my timing is okay. Are the any resources out there that explain the blacksmith better than the in-game wall-of-text tutorial? Is there a way to upgrade my weapons damage output without lowering all its other bonuses?


39f0b5  No.16323885

>>16323880

You can reforge affixes until you get damage boosting ones. Make sure to have the melee weapon reforging table open so you aren't trying to get something impossible.


271dda  No.16323893

>>16323880

The blacksmith isn't really that relevant if you just keep playing the game. You'll probably keep getting better gear than she can make.


2330c0  No.16323919

File: c4f80eb42291f34⋯.webm (14.19 MB, 1364x768, 341:192, nioh vampire naked.webm)

>>16323880

>I do agree that it probably shouldn't have been quite so early though

She doesn't have anything going for her to be an interesting fight later in the game.


39f0b5  No.16323931

>>16323919

Your guy does more damage with a katana than mine did with an odachi at that point, has twice the hitpoints and over twice the ki and can block more than one attack.


2330c0  No.16323936

>>16323931

My guy is also fucking naked and takes more damage than you should be taking

>block more than one attack

>blocking with odachi


da1743  No.16323944

>>16323919

She didn't need to be replaced by another boss, I just think there should have been 1 or 2 more sub-missions for the player to go through before her. As it stands I was still fumbling buttons when I fought her.


271dda  No.16323966

File: a55021d2fd9938c⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 6 MB, 720x1280, 9:16, tfw no katana wielding asi….mp4)

>>16323931

All Hino-Enma's attacks can be dodged once you figure out the pattern. One problem with the odachi is that because it's a dlc weapon, there really aren't unique good odachi drops early in the game. I think the same applies to tonfas. It's hard to find a good odachi, while single katanas, spears and dual katanas are plentiful during the first playthrough.


845b59  No.16324123

>>16293722

eh, mark, can we ban this guy?


6e4677  No.16324148

>>16323966

Ain't no way in hell that's not a dude.


37d9e1  No.16324179

>>16324148

I see no reason to think that's a girl considering they're in Japan.


565645  No.16324256

File: d174be6f6852f1c⋯.webm (5.93 MB, 600x800, 3:4, Nioh - Freed From This Mo….webm)

File: de82cd90880079d⋯.webm (4.72 MB, 768x432, 16:9, Nioh 2019.03.28 - 18.15.1….webm)


a3166b  No.16324261

>>16323931

Hinoenma is a terrible boss to try to use an Odachi on unless you're spending the entire time in LW mode.


8253ea  No.16324262

File: b49a2a59fcd8601⋯.webm (6.09 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Nioh - William (Soundtrac….webm)

File: d72afdbc54b3667⋯.webm (4.07 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Nioh OST - Mononofu I.webm)

File: 184ee4de9cdc6a9⋯.webm (3.81 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Nioh OST - Mononofu II.webm)


a3166b  No.16324274

File: a358aad880c57f2⋯.mp4 (3.23 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Nioh shuriken gameplay.mp4)

>>16323919

This is still my favorite way of beating Hinoenma.


845b59  No.16324275

Is there a good variety of builds for your character in this game? That's the biggest draw for me


a3166b  No.16324281

>>16324275

There's an immense number of ways to build your character. There's a few clear winners but there's any number of fun little twink and specialist builds that that you can run and are quite viable.


565645  No.16324288

File: ad698897883cac9⋯.webm (6.33 MB, 640x360, 16:9, FLAWLESS UNARMED SAMURAI ….webm)

>>16324274

Someone should beat her with bare hands.


565645  No.16324301

File: ef7b4592f32c387⋯.webm (638.17 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Maria.webm)

Do you think Maria will return in Nioh 2?


845b59  No.16324309

>>16324281

Ok I will play this game with OP


a3166b  No.16324988

>>16324288

I still cannot reliably dodge his Tiger Run even after more than 600 hours.


2330c0  No.16325331

>>16324988

audio cues


1ac26e  No.16325416

>>16324301

Not if it's a prequel.


15ba77  No.16326249

>>16323516

Wouldn't call it annoying or anything like that, maybe a bit repetitive at times.

I've played a bit with tonfas at the beginning, but it was so spinny, wanted something more grounded.

Well, I've tried it again and they're incredibly op, like against raven tengu and fiends, revenants get near instant deletion. I was mainly playing katana/duals/spear so far. The tonfas make me want to switch stances even less now, they destroy ki way too fast and the dodge feels more powerful. Oh well, also while playing in general felt like high stance is nearly useless, except maybe odachi, because of how very good low stance is and mid stance for some specialisation on some enemies/bosses.

Even though bullet sponges is not a good game design, in this game I'd probably prefer it to lean more into sponginess. While you can artificially handicap your damage through gear and make the fights last longer, in this case the fights become a bit dull, as the boss is repeating same 3-4 things, there just isn't enough of things they can do. Which leads to another point - it doesn't seem like you can stack enough defenses later on in the game, besides, maybe cheesing something, so it's starting to get into glass canon territory on both sides where one mistake on either side of end is one mistake too many. So you don't want to artificially gimp yourself.

It's a problem with the boss designs, bar a few of the bosses. I suppose I'd describe it as "they want to fight you, but they don't seem to want to kill you". They keep on repeating and doing same patterns. Yes, the boss is different, but majority of them do the same thing, so if you learn one boss, you can fight majority of them. Again, felt like the game could have benefited from more mechanics associated to the bosses and them having more aggressive states, as a sort of fury/berserk modes, also phases.

For example yuki ona and some other bosses get additional attacks/moves as their hp goes down, but those attacks are barely any different and will hardly if ever catch you off guard. In the end game bosses die way too quickly, the fights should last way longer. I'm a bit repeating here, just wasn't sure how I want to convey the point.

The only boss they somewhat tried anything different with at all was the orochi, but even that felt flat in my opinion and wasn't all that interesting. The game has most of everything, except difficulty.


bfda14  No.16327706

File: 4c9f978fe94c877⋯.jpg (704.55 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, nioh 2019-04-04 23-57-25-1….jpg)


a3166b  No.16327741

>>16327706

Why doesn't Maria seem to have a guardian spirit?


a64ea4  No.16328121

I beat Nue finally, and down the dungeon I fought two Revenants that were about lvl 35, I was about 15 levels below that. One dropped an entire armor set minus legs of Armor of the West. The next Revenant dropped the remaining Leg piece. Now I have a set of 5 and the set bonus is insane for damage. I also got a crazy lightning Odachi, Futsunomitama from a Revenant shortly before Nue which is the sole reason I beat that thing.

Fighting Revenants I guess is the best way to get overpowered armor and weapons?


f51224  No.16328160

>>16328121

There's an absolute ton of revenants with WotW and Futsonomitamas in the first playthrough. Which is good if you use Odachis and WotW, not good if you want to use anything else. Revenants stop being good loot pinatas after the first playthrough, when the loot treadmill slows down and becomes more about smithing and soul matching.


170aff  No.16328193

>>16328121

If you play Warrior of the West/Red Demon then yes, farming revenants is the best thing you can do on your first playthrough. If you want to find anything else, then tough fucking luck, you'll either find generics or the two sets I mentioned. It's best to only start doing the build you want to try after you beat the game for the first time, crafting in ANY sense is a complete waste of time until you can at least start making divines.




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