68f183 No.16276797
Everyone knows that all these vidya outlets are corrupt, incestuous paid shilling networks at this point, but it takes a special kind of paid shill to willingly defend and run damage control for Tencent, the most malevolent, powerful and cancerous force in the video game industry, and overall a massive danger to the world.
The Epic Store is a shitty meme and a hot anti-consumer mess, but it wouldn't be worth caring much about if it weren't for Tencent's involvement (Read: practical/de facto ownership of Epic).
https://archive.fo/FHykL
Now Epic is tired of the narrative that Tencent controls them, funnily enough. More people don't like Tencent than are expected so they want to cast off the whole "Tencent is Evil" and "Tencent is controlling us" narrative simultaneously with this embarrassingly bad and contradicting puff piece. Apparently they were laughed and mocked at the GDC and PC Gamer had to come in to the rescue with this.
>During a public Q&A at the Game Developers Conference this week with Epic Games Store leaders Steve Allison, Sergey Galyonkin, and Joe Kreiner, a GDC 2019 attendee invoked a claim that's appearing more frequently in Reddit threads, tweets, and discussions of the company: that Tencent, which invested in Epic in 2013, 'actually' runs the company.
>"[I'm] wondering if it was Tencent's idea to abandon Unreal Tournament's community?" the expo attendee quipped.
>After letting the audience laugh through the awkward tension in the room, Epic Store lead Steven Allison gave a firm response. "Tencent has no, zero, input into our business. They do not talk to us about what we are doing. They don't suggest what we should be doing. They don't make any decisions for us. They are not in our building. Everything we do is with our team, and the final point of conversation when it goes up to the top is Tim [Sweeney, CEO]. And Tim does not take any orders from Tencent. Believe me."
>In 2013, well before Fortnite became a global entertainment phenomenon, Tencent acquired a 40 percent ownership in Epic for $330 million. Tencent's gaming portfolio is vast: it completely owns Riot Games, Clash of Clans maker Supercell, and holds a 5 percent interest in Ubisoft.
>"Obviously there was a significant investment that [Tencent] made in the company a few years ago, and we like them as a company, and they're a partner of ours, but they're not running our business," Allison continued. "They are not in the building. We don't share anything with them. In fact, we compete with them. They run PUBG. We compete with them."
>"Epic is an American company," said Sweeney in a tweet from January. "There are investors and equity holders from all around the world, including Tencent in China. It’s normal for companies of this scale have international shareholders."
So tl;dr they got laughed at at the GDC and are being increasingly mocked and distrusted and feel that they need to show off their "total autonomy". Ignore the fact that according to the same guy last month, Tencent's directors are people who have helped "make Epic what it is today" and are "Super Valuable contributors". Never mind that a Chinese mega-conglomerate owns a near-controlling interest, with the only other person challenging them being Tim Sweeney himself and you can't fucking ignore a 40+% stakeholder's demands. They're "totally American" though. I'm sure Tencent's money-grubbing and devious goals don't align with Epic's at all.
http://archive.is/FoGRq
What a fucking joke.
1262c4 No.16276826
Even IF, and that's a big if, Tencent had no control of the company's actions, they still earn 40% of its profits, which is still an absolutely unacceptable thing to support.
13a376 No.16276839
Oy vey the roundeyes know.
b295da No.16276845
Every argument you could make as a devil’s advocate for the Epic store is probably true. The problem is that the answer to those arguments is that Tencent are the ones running it.
Do Tencent own Valve or GoG? I don’t think so. Argument over.
Anyone who tries to justify the shit Epic is doing as “competition” is missing the point.
13a376 No.16276851
>>16276845
>Anyone who tries to justify the shit Epic is doing as “competition” is missing the point.
No, they're flat out shills. Nobody with even two working brain cells would ever equate "company ten times the size of Valve barging in a buying out exclusivity deals, which is illegal by the way, after they were already promised to be on Steam" to fair competition.
68f183 No.16276855
>>16276845
The only positive thing that Epic could do is both bring themselves and Valve down in all this absurdity since I despise them both. I don't want a market where they're the only two competitors. Good, non-cancerous competitors deserve to get more market share when Steam finally collapses and Epic is most assuredly not one of those.
I'm hoping they both kill each other in an MAD race and everyone else from outside can salvage what can be done out of the smoking wreckage.
6c48bc No.16276874
The Epic Games store is 100% run by tencent. A person on a discord server I am in has a friend married to a chinese girl. While he was on the US, he played a shit ton of fortnite and the launcher reported it to the Chinese government. They lowered their social credit score so they got fired from their jobs and cant get new job.
14cd75 No.16276881
>>16276851
>which is illegal by the way
How? I've seen this dumbass statement made over 100 times this week. Someone tell me what law says you can't pay people to only sell through you because there are literally millions of examples of this exact practice happening in every fucking industry in every single country in the world you fucking dunce.
13a376 No.16276883
>>16276881
Stay mad chink.
d1231b No.16276890
>>16276797
>super valuable contributors
>made epic what it is today
Which means all the shit Epic does is coming directly from Tencent.
685447 No.16276912
What's that got to do with Politically Correct Gamer ? They just said what Ebin lied about, and weren't the only ones who did so.
68c3a8 No.16276925
>Tim does not take any orders from Tencent. Believe me.
>O-of course goyim take my word for it!
13a376 No.16276931
>>16276925
It's funny just how overly specific his denial is. If he weren't a dumbass he wouldn't even acknowledge the accusations but instead he's just bringing more attention to it.
ddedfd No.16276934
>>16276931
It sounds like a lawyer wrote that tweet for him.
13a376 No.16276935
>>16276934
A very nervous and sweaty one, yes.
c55323 No.16276973
>>16276797
Not surprised but they're hardly even trying to hide it now.
33739f No.16276975
>>16276874
I hope this is true.
467192 No.16276980
>>16276797
The amount of good press and defense for Epic is amazing by these game blogging shills, especially when they announced that they'll be the kosher reddit-approved Game Platform and Market.
03a4a3 No.16276993
>>16276980
Not surprising since they like to sellout their country for money an ideology. If they'd be willing to convert to islam as they kill our soldiers, why wouldn't they ally with the chinese who are building a social credit dystopia for the future.
05a9de No.16276999
If epic was truely about being non tencent they buy back the stocks and be 100% their own
84a576 No.16277023
This would not be surprising. Divisions that are 100% owned by japanese corps are given free hand because "they know the market better". They want money and dont give a fuck what the gaijin do to transfer it to them.
cbba22 No.16277040
Politically Correct Gaymer has been shit for years.
They've been creatively bankrupt since 2008 and politically and morally bankrupt since 2010.
Since the site was created and the US and the vastly superior UK editorals were joined it's been nothing but pure sewage
d951b1 No.16277041
>>16276797
>vote as fiduciaries
Ummm, might want to be very careful using that word. That implies there is a legal right to act in the best financial interest of the managing party. In other words fuck doing what is best for your customers do what is best for your investor.
84a576 No.16277061
>>16277041
>fuck doing what is best for your customers do what is best for your investor.
that is literally every company
cb4bff No.16277064
>Owners
>Tencent (40%)
Lol.
02a76d No.16277105
Lol reading mainstream videogame "journalism"
I literallt dont know anyone who reads that shit
Besides the occasional gamespot for the lols
Everyone i know just plays what they like
Or watches youtubers
Someone needs to pull the plug
d951b1 No.16277127
>>16277041
A CEO does not have to act in the best interest of the investors but in the best interest of the company (like not taking a buy out offer). If the board disagrees they can kick out the CEO. Not in all cases will the interests of the investors and the company agree all the time. Say taking big risks when the investors may just want stable low returns. But if you are acting as a fiduciary then your only option is to do what the investors want.
36c840 No.16277202
>>16277061
Only public ones. Private one's don't have investors. In Private though it becomes "do what's best for me (the owner) and not the customer)".
32289b No.16277210
>>16277064
>brainlet doesn't understand how 40% could be a majority stakeholder
a98dbb No.16277213
>>16277064
If everyone else has less then that then yes, they are the owner
68ca36 No.16277215
>>16276881
It's not. Exclusives have been a thing since the dawn of gaming.
36c840 No.16277228
>>16276881
I think he's trying to say that buying out exclusivity rights is the illegal thing to do but even that's retarded. Though I don't know the intricacies of how those contracts would be written out if they even exist, you just need to buy the rights back.
e2a1c0 No.16277245
>>16276797
Not even their readers are falling for this shit.
0cfc7a No.16277262
>>16277245
>first image
>They're just doing this to get attention from people who want to call them liars
>By the way I just came here to call them liars
74d01e No.16277287
>>16277245
>I'm absolutely blown away by how much effort PCGamer has been putting into promoting the Epic Games Store
Why? it's painfully obvious Tencent sent out a lot of checks to certain sites to not only shill it but to do damage control for them, the fact that not a single one of them has reported all the shit the launcher is data mining and instead desperately trying to cover it up is all the proof you need.
Video game "journalists" are not reporters they're whores who sell their sites out to the highest bidder.
1262c4 No.16277294
>>16277210
Majority doesn't mean large or largest. It means over 50%.
If 1 person has 40% and 2 people each have 30%, then there is no majority.
9ce51e No.16277350
>>16277294
It's not often I see a dumb motherfucker of this caliber.
685447 No.16277369
>>16277294
>If 1 person has 40% and 2 people each have 30%, then there is no majority.
Yes, 40% has the majority. Having over 50% in an absolute majority. Basic majority only means being more numerous than other parties. Learn your fucking shit.
7d7fd2 No.16277377
>>16277337
>>your mind on nazi bullshit
This is a bizarre connection. Hi, /leftypol/. You deranged fags >>16277369
should work on your subtlety.
>>16277350
>It's not often I see a dumb motherfucker of this caliber.
>>16277369
>Yes, 40% has the majority.
"A majority shareholder is a person or entity that owns and controls more than 50 % of a company's outstanding shares."
The entity holding 40% has the most shares, and it has a plurality of the shares. It certainly has the most sway when it comes to the direction of the company. But it doesn't have a majority, you complete braindead idiots. Learn your shit yourself.
68ca36 No.16277408
>>16277369
He's just playing semantics with you. That's technically a plurality, not that it changes the fact that they have the most power in the company.
f47c85 No.16277426
>>16276839
We need to learn the Chinese equivalent of "oy vey".
125ab4 No.16277428
>>16277294
t. the guy in charge of anything EU-vote-related
685447 No.16277429
>>16277377
>Following the literal dictionary definition is deranged
Yeah, you took one too many kike cocks to the brain.
6f45e7 No.16277437
ecedb4 No.16277442
>>16276797
>40% stake in company
>the majority of the Board of Directors are probably their goons
>"we don't take orders from them"
What a crock of shit.
7d7fd2 No.16277453
>>16277429
I didn't mean to call you deranged. I accidentally clicked your post number twice. I was only calling >>16277337 a deranged /leftypol/ user. However, you're still wrong. Though the dictionary definition of the word "majority" is very minimalist, the majority in any case other than that specific example refers to being greater than half. You're thinking of a plurality.
a46dd3 No.16277485
>>16277245
>normalfags casuals are waking up
OH VEY!
d0e085 No.16277498
>>16277337
>Hey guys, 40% isn't really a majority, just a minority-majority.
>hurr u nahtzee
The autism of /leftypol/ is amazing.
e72f97 No.16277517
>>16276797
>We don't take orders from Tencent
<their directors and their advice are invaluable and made epic what it is today
What did he mean by this??? What's his endgame?!!!
74d01e No.16277546
>>16277515
Just because you deleted your own post means it vanishes for everyone else retard.
739597 No.16277572
>>16277561
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE
7d7fd2 No.16277576
>>16277561
This is maximum damage control. How quick do you think these anons are, to all photoshop the same thing in such rapid succession?
d0e085 No.16277593
>>16277576
You just don't understand, I am all three of those IDs and made three different versions to trick all of you.
Anyway this is getting off topic we should probably ignore the idiot.
Do these papers really think that anyone is going to fall for
>our investors have no influence
? That's part of the reason for investing, along with getting a return on investment.
74d01e No.16277595
>>16277561
I see they didn't sent their best.
e967c1 No.16277607
Wasn't 8ch connected to some shooting recently? We're going to get a lot of immigrants for a while. Like 2bed56
>>16277337
>your mind on nazi bullshit
d1231b No.16277618
>>16277607
Shooter posted link to his facebook stream here. Probably a lot of other places, too, but we will never hear of them. Journos got frothing rabid when they heard 8chan and jumped on the opportunity to further smear this place.
e967c1 No.16277641
>>16277618
Fun. Next couple of months are going to be fun
Anyways don't fall for jewish tricks of IP hopping retards.
003031 No.16278024
>>16276797
>"Jokes on you I'm not taking orders from Tencent since I'm already willingly doing what they want me to do"
>t. investor's buttslut
13a376 No.16278042
>>16278024
Oy vey goy Tencent isn't important they only own nearly half of our company not that it even matters that isn't the majority also stop talking about them it isn't relevant stop bringing them up just stop stop stop.
79400c No.16278121
>>16276881
Exclusivity deals are not illegal, but there is absolutely nothing in US antitrust laws to let you escape the Law of Reason. Any antitrust law lawsuit against you, you have to actually defend yourself and make your case every time.
d7b8d4 No.16278235
>>16276797
Oh Tim, what happened……
5b660b No.16278242
>>16276881
In Burgerland there was this guy called Rockefeller who bought out all the Oil in the country.
Burgers didn't really like having one burger control all of burger-lands oil and created these things called antitrust laws.
They are pretty powerful and have almost taken down Microsoft before.
Epic is playing a very risky game publicly gobbling up every new game like a starving chink.
f6d527 No.16278305
>>16278242
The way Microsoft got fucked by anti-trust laws was nothing but a government shakedown. Microsoft paid no lobbyists so they made up bullshit about including internet Explorer in Windows being antitrust. By this logic the "free games" included in services are antitrust.
79400c No.16278518
>>16278305
Since they're now largely owned by Tencent they are on thin ice thanks to the trade war. Epic buying every company to exclusively sell their games on Epic has a very weak case on the defense, even if they had the court's favor through bribery those contracts could still be made void anyways.
4008a7 No.16278535
Remember when Epic made games like Unreal Tournament? How did they become such faggots?
13a376 No.16278786
>>16278535
They fell for the rockstar developer meme and were left out to bleed dry, forcing themselves to be some bigger company's bitch.
000000 No.16280474
>>16278305
>The way Microsoft got fucked by anti-trust laws was nothing but a government shakedown. Microsoft paid no lobbyists so they made up bullshit about including internet Explorer in Windows being antitrust. By this logic the "free games" included in services are antitrust.
You're a retard judging shit by today's standards. This was during the browser wars era where MS was trying to destroy NetScape and was using bundling as a way to ensure that everyone got Internet Explorer whether they wanted it or not. Back then internet was a novelty and software was a thing you got from stores. NetScape accused MS of anti-competitive practices by forcing IExplore down everyone's throats and attempting to seize control of the entire web browsing market. Just imagine what could happen if MS controlled the browser used by 90% of the internet - they could basically set all the web standards to their own liking. And NetScape somewhat lost the browser wars, but they open sourced their browser into what became known as the Mozilla browser suite (now known as SeaMonkey). Then Mozilla Firefox (the browser, stand-alone) became the most dominant browser for quite a while. So MS wound up losing the browser wars and in today's age a computer that came without a functional browser would be a problem because that is how people interact with the internet nowadays. Stuff like Telnet, SSH, and even FTP have been relegated to the domain of advanced computer users. OS distros need to come with browsers to be internet-functional for the average end-user nowadays, but back then it was different.
>>16278535
They made a new UT but no one is playing it because it wasn't as good of an arena shooter, their forums got overrun by casualtards from Call of Duty and the like and they all pushed for stupid shit like "no double jumping" "make people slower when they run backwards because I hate having someone run away from me while shooting at me" and other retarded ways of penalizing mobility and evasive maneuvers which the UT staff incorporated as the new server defaults. As a result the arena crowd doesn't play the new UT. Word of mouth is that the new UT sucks. Only shitty casuals play it.
You can still play the new UT and use custom server settings and mods to repair that damage, but you will be hard-pressed to fill a lobby with gamers who know how to play actual arena shooters.
2a52a5 No.16280510
>>16277426
It's aiyaaa
t. fucked a few chinkettes when still a normalfag
0b1a73 No.16280567
>>16280514
is that the florida man?
000000 No.16280831
>>16276797
>one of its investors
Tencent owns the fucking place retards
000000 No.16280846
>>16277245
>someone still reads this shit
WEW
>the guy thinking the site isn't a shill operation
<my sides leaving orbit
e79aab No.16280871
>>16280567
>There will never be a comic book hero Florida Man
13a376 No.16281092
>>>/v/16281087
We have IDs here.
09669a No.16281182
>>16277517
His end game is good PR. The ultimate goal of articles like this and speeches like he gave at GDC are an attempt to save face and craft a narrative so people stop scrutinizing their shitty business practices and the utter insanity of the exclusivity contracts they've been throwing around. Giving a studio so much money for exclusivity that they do even have to sell their game to have made a profit is not sane in any way.
Right now, Epic has been caught in numerous ways trying to manipulate the market with the help of a massively corrupt Chinese company. Instead of saying "we're trying to do what's best for gamers" or "allow me to explain all that hidden datamining we tried to pull off!" he's out there running his mouth about how Steam is shitty and how there's totally no collusion or underhanded bullshit happening with Epic and Tencent. You can tell what has them panicked the most based on what they've been trying to say. They aren't concerned that they look like scumfuck con-artists or greedy faggots trying to consume the whole industry for their own gain. They are worried that people know they are controlled by Tencent.
4322ba No.16281193
their "exclusivity contracts" are timed exclusives
if devs decide to stay only on Epic its up to them
completely different from consoles
f3a70b No.16281433
>>16280567
>not cropping out the social media maymay text that adds nothing to the joke
000000 No.16282072
>>16276797
The fact that both Epic Games and Tencent exist at all as they are today, is reason to never trust them and to never give money to anything related to them.
"Muh Tencent doesn't own Epic Games". So? They are still Tencent and Epic Games. They are still cancers that must be purged.
d22945 No.16282215
>a corporation or individual that owns 40% of your business has NO INPUT on your projects or the direction the business is going
The not surprising thing here is there exist nuckledragging, mouth breathing, retarded NIGGERS who will believe this.
d22945 No.16282217
>>16277426
>>16280510
>It's aiyaaa
I thought it was jackiieeeeeeeee!
936240 No.16282776
>>16277616
That's giving them a humbly generous amount anon.
dd05eb No.16282807
>>16276797
>Video outlets and jornos are corrupt
Tell me something I don't know.
8279ab No.16294859
>>16278535
>you must hire more women goy
>hire them but they have no talents so shove them into a job even a retard with no skills can do: HR
>HR is in charge of hiring and firing so they have control over the next wave of employees
>company gradualluly goes to shit as competent people retire or quit and get replaced
Literally every American corporation since the 80s
5e36b7 No.16294868
I like how Epic and Tencent are basically forcing people to use their platform through exclusivity deals and not because they're actually a better platform.
8279ab No.16294873
>>16294868
Valve did the same thing when steam first came out. It was hugely unpopular originally. Maybe not quite on this same scale though.
7dd7a6 No.16294894
>>16294873
At least Gabe cared enough to try and take over the PC gaming market and install himself as dictator in the first place. Without someone in charge who has his level of authoritarianism and not giving a shit to lead it somewhere, there's never going to be good games.
f2f36e No.16294917
>>16294873
But when the fat fuck does it, it's okay.
When other does, it's predatory. So it's okay for it to remain a monopoly, nothing wrong can come from it, besides competition is always bad for consumers.
f00bf1 No.16294923
>>16294917
>another company that does shady bullshit is good because it's competition
373fc8 No.16294958
>>16294917
>But when the fat fuck does it, it's okay.
Yes. Gabe is at least white and likes games. The soulless bugmen of the epic store will use the micro-transaction money for white genocide and to ban people for bringing up Tienanmen Square.
f00bf1 No.16294962
>>16294955
>it's okay to do shady bullshit if it means furthering your position on the market, goy! it's for the sake of the consumer!
3ba1b7 No.16295051
>>16281433
The part on the bottom is supposed to be on the top.
7d7fd2 No.16295082
>>16295051
His point still stands. Crop that shit out.
04a893 No.16295089
>>16294958
>Fat fuck that's too big to fall or chinese bugmen
I no longer want to keep picking my poison.
13a376 No.16295259
>chinks are still desperately trying to shift all conversation towards Steam
Jesus Christ. It's like an entire race of that one kid who tried to use Charmander against Brock.
552aec No.16295547
>>16294917
>x is okay because y is bad
>you guys think y is good!
Fuck off, all the storefronts are run by faggots and piracy is the only valid option.
although most new games aren't even worth pirating