/v/ - Video Games

>>16276433

i dont want to talk about economics.

The same thing that happened to good movies and good games

>>16276490

Both of those things still come out today

the ratio of good movies to bad movies is the same today as it was 20 years ago

take off the nostalgia goggles

Good movie tie-in games were always a rarity. 90% of them were always terrible shovelware, and even most of the decent ones were decent at best. The really good ones were very few and far between. It's probably a mix of things.

Audiences are different now. It used to be mostly kids and teenagers who wanted to play whatever they could get their hands on, and now most of those audiences just play shitloads of Fortnight, Minecraft, and Elder Scrolls games.

IP-holders also used to offload these things to cheap US studios with small budgets who gave a shit about making a good game, even if they were inexperienced and under-funded. The games usually came out a mess, but even if they did, they were usually made with love and the desire to make a good game. These days, these things are made in effective sweatshops, offloaded offshores to massive companies with dozens of dedicated teams built to push out cheap shit with a couple dozen programmers working 80 hours a week for dollars a day at best. These people don't give a shit about video games AND they're shit at development. This is a problem with software development in general, and you see the same low-quality shit come out all the time in a corporate environment, though most companies outside of video games have wised up after having to pay US programmers double normal rate to fix the shit that their cheap Indian contractors shat out.

>>16276433

The Warriors for PS2 and xbox was and is a masterpiece

>>16276433

Nearly all movie tie-in games are shit. The only good one I can think of is Goldeneye, and that came out more than two years after the movie.

>>16276556

star wars had a respectable amount of good games. i really liked dark forces/jedi knight and that star wars age of empire mod was pretty fun too.

>>16276551

> The games usually came out a mess

This is because the game was usually released around the same time as the movie, regardless of the state the game is in. This means you have an extremely rushed development cycle (usually only a few months), and zero flexibility from the publishers. It's a recipe for disaster.

If you want to know whether a movie tie-in game is good or not, its release date is an astonishingly reliable metric.

>>16276564

>star wars had a respectable amount of good games.

And the shit ones are the actual movie tie-in games (e.g. Episode 1 Racer).

>>16276579

The Battlefront games are movie tie-ins, especially the first one. Revenge of the Sith for PS2 was pretty fucking cool too. Felt like a predecessor to Force Unleashed.

>>16276603

No. It is objectively shit (like the movie it is based on), and you have shit taste for liking it.

Nothing, they were always anomalies. Franchise tie-in cash-in games have always been synonymous with low-effort trash.

>>16276490

/thread

>>16276495

Lolno anon

The liberal jewish propaganda and corporate greed has made 99% of everything unwatchable and unplayable

Look at the ghostbusters remake

Or all the microtransaction simulators

>>16276624

All of these games and movies were shit back then

>>16276926

that's what most people tend to say, I should play it sometime

>>16276949

good movies deserve sequels :)

>>16276433

They were never good. Just nostalgia.

>>16276926

>>16276960

>>16276968

iirc it was loosely based on an unused script for the third movie.

>>16276495

He's right, but he failed to mention that even the best things now don't come close to the best even just a decade ago.

Hardcore henry was good

>>16276985

I looked into it, that pretty much checks out based on Akroyd saying it was at least partially cobbled together from a third movie script. You wouldn't think developing Ghostbusters content would be such a nightmare but it sure sounds like it.

>>16276949

And you have to account for the fact that all the reviewers are jewish liberal communists

So anything with good reviews is most likely crap

Which was even true back then

Red dawn got panned and its still better than 90% of movies today

>>16276433

Same thing that happened to good movies and good games: the big player studios stopped making them, and unlike with vidya and movies, there aren't any upstarts making movie tie-in games

>>16276433

>What the hell happened to good movie tie in games?

The day video games tried to become too much like movies.

>>16276553

>The Warriors

Mah nigga. One thing I would argue is the last level. Fucking took me how many tries to throw the knife at the final boss.

The AA industry died.

>>16277289

Goddamn, they even look frumpy in silhouette.

>>16277289

>fembusters got a vidta gaem

I had forgotten.

>>16276547

good game but bad movie?

>>16277368

>lego games

That's a slippery slope. Any of them actually fun?

>>16277289

>Dark Spark

It amazes me how someone can literally copy a superior dev's work and the one original thing they add to it brings the game down to a 4/10 from a 7 or even a 7.5.

>>16277376

>Any of them actually fun?

The TT games? Yes, they all are. However, once you've played one, you've played them all.

What happened to harry potter games after 3 or 4?

Why were they so shit.

>>16277492

Because the movies were shit, because the books the movies were based on were shit. So the games based off of the movies based off of the books that were originally shit caused shit all the way down the line.

>>16277423

Aren't the PC ports kind of spotty though? I remember seeing City Underground having a pretty shit port.

>>16277527

>underground

Undercover.

Lord of the Rings games were the best ones.Its up there with the Starwars Lego ones.

>>16277535

It depends I guess, Controller support for undercover is finicky. since Steam Big Picture Controller support actually fucks up the games, so you need to turn that off to get it to work properly. but aside from that the game has worked perfectly fine for me.

but these things are always "works fine on my system" but doesn't work for someone else kind of things.

What happened to good movies, in general? I can't find many action movies that are satisfying to be honest I wasn't a fan of John Wick 2 and Comedy is pretty much dead.

>>16277978

Are you saying there's nothing new under the sun?

>>16277978

How much capeshit can they possibly make?

>>16278043

Well, once they run American comics dry (Long after DC and Marvel are dead, and they move onto Image, Boom, Acclaim, Archie, Dark Horse, Gold Key, etc.), they still have French comics and manga.

>>16277683

Nice, I might check it out then to see if it's fucky for me or not.

>>16277737

>>16276624

At least all but 1 of those was shit a shit movie, which is interesting because King Kong was also a pretty decent game and the movie sucked too.

>>16276498

The spanish dub of the game had me and my brother exploding from laughter at Mrs. Sprout's lines when you begin her challenge.

>>16277270

>Will Smith still depressed that his son turn out to be a fag

Jaden Smith was suppose to be the next big black star. Now he wears white face and larps as white Batman.

>>16277527

LEGO City Undercover on PC had few but big problems at launch, most notably is that you can't change your resolution from the main menu due to being unable to select the confirm button. It can be changed once you're in-game.

Beyond that it's pretty solid. Occasionally You might launch into a black screen instead of getting the logos; hit enter twice to exit out (hidden windows error) and relaunch

As I pirated it, I don't know how the support's been.

>>16278122

>(((they))) are going to make JTHM

you go to hell anon, you go to hell and you die

they never were

>>16278883

>jolyne the tranny killing cis scum

might go full circle and become entertaining again, in a poetic kind of way.

>>16276926

The only way it could be better is replace protag with Louis AND Dana

Toy story 2 remains best movie game

Movie tie-in games peaked with the Disney games on the Genesis/PC.

Except for maybe Ghostbusters last gen, which was about as close as we're ever going to get to Ghostbusters III.

>>16287889

I still think Sunsoft Batman on NES is a top tier contender for best move video game.

>>16279078

When are we getting a King of the Hill video game? I want a 3D Beatemup/Hack n' Slash like Bayonetta, except Hank Hill makes slutty poses while his clothes warp off his body.

>>16287889

Toy Story 2 is a spiritual sequel to A Bug's Life, but it removed most of the puzzle elements. I would argue A Bug's Life is better. Either way, if you're a fan of one you have to play the other.

>>16288008

It would obviously have to be an open world GTA clone like Pro-Pain.

>>16278122

I could see most moderate capeshit fans quitting after Infinity war 2. I haven't seen a capeshit movie and paid for it since like ironmeme 3, and after this retarded decade long series is over I'm done.

>>16293751

Bug's Life has jack shit to do with Toy Story 2, that's more of a conventional collection platformer unlike the other level-based Disney platforming 3D games.

>>16293808

Wrong

>>16293793

I have seen every superhero movie since Batman (1966). I have an enormous comic book collection stretching from the golden age to about 2015 so far. But Brie Larsen told me not to go to the premiere or press screenings of her movie. So to be safe, I'm just not going to go to any screenings of her movie. I hope that makes her happy. Since that movie is central to Infinity Endgame, I can't see Endgame, and since Endgame is obviously going to be important to future stuff, I guess I'm done with the MCU. I wonder how many diehard fans, who had paid for everything they put out, have been lost by their SJW bullshit. I hope it was worth it.

>>16293815

>being a diehard fan of capeshit in the first place

>>16293802

A Bug's Life and Toy Story 2 have the same devs, similar controls, similar types of level designs and missions, similar graphics. Toy Story 2 is very obviously a sequel in terms of everything except for the specific movie, but even that movie is effectively a spiritual sequel to A Bug's Life (being the next Pixar movie). I wouldn't be surprised if it was part of the same license and Disney just hired them to make several games. The biggest difference is only that A Bug's Life has the seed system that adds a type of puzzle element, where you need to be creative with seed usage to get tokens in the right order and use them to get more seeds and tokens before you can eventually get to the goals. Toy Story 2 is a bit more straightforward, but it's not really a big enough change to say it's not even similar.

>>16293828

What, you thought I came to a chinese cartoon imageboard without being autistic? They're the richest fictional worlds ever created. Great for escapism because you'll never run out. But now SJW politics are infecting them too, so it's no longer escapism, so they get no more money from me.

>>16293893

Prove me wrong

>>16293897

No one owes you shit, you're the one who must prove that you're right.

>>16293832

With that line of thought Toy Story 2 is the spiritual successors to Sonic 3D Blast and Rascal then.

The only good movie game was GoldenEye, prove me wrong

Protip: you can't

>>16294391

Those games don't have the same style of gameplay and aren't based on the movie that the same creators made immediately previous to Toy Story 2.

For another example of a tie in game that is more closely related to something not explicitly stated as its sequel, Spider-Man: The Movie is much more a sequel to Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro than it is a prequel to Spider-Man 2 (the one based on the movie). It carries the gameplay from the older games even though it is a reboot, while the one stated to be a sequel to this is much different from the three games before it.

>>16307979

Just because they're slightly less shitty compared to other Disney ps1 games doesn't mean they're related, I assure you that Travelers Tales just bothered enough to give a shit about making them not shit since they already put effort into the 16-bit ones.

>>16308228

I'm not saying they're just not shit. I'm saying the gameplay is very similar. Hell, everything is very similar except the characters you play as. They're related in the same way Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie are related to Donkey Kong 64 and Conker's Bad Fur Day. Or Goldeneye is related to Perfect Dark. And no, I'm not saying just because they have the same devs, because I'm not saying Goldeneye is related to Banjo Kazooie in that way. But not only are we dealing with the same devs, we're dealing with the same devs using very similar gameplay styles across multiple games. Just because it isn't technically the same characters recurring doesn't mean we can't see the connections here.

Smartphones happened.

>>16308243

You throw berries in one and shoot laserbeams in another, they're platforming games, it's not that deep.

>>16308256

The berries and lasers function very similarly. The only major difference is A Bug's Life has upgrades to your weapon that reset every level.

Next you'll tell me Jak & Daxter isn't a spiritual sequel to Crash Bandicoot because it's open world and you don't play as a Bandicoot.

>>16278883

Johen would never bite, but the mere thought is frightening enough.

>>16308271

You are autistic.

>>16276433

Fuck man, I was just thinking about playing the early Harry Potter games. They used to have them at the local library when I was a kid, along with some point and clicks.

>>16276949

There's a Frank Zappa interview where he says the Boomers/yuppies have turned out to be worse than the "cigar-chomping capitalists" the Boomers used to complain about, simply because they play it too safe and only want to go for formulas and IPs that have already been established.

He was talking about the music industry but he may as well have been talking about movies, comics, science, politics, whatever.

>>16312139

I never played that but the more I think about it you could make a really good horror game with investigation mechanics and a suspicion meter as well as intense claustrophobic sections where you're hunting the thing through the arctic base.

Most movie tie in games sucked. We don't even get movie tie in games anymore apart from Lego games because they're no longer economically viable.

>>16312156

It did have some sort of suspicion mechanic with the trust and fear system. It was pretty cool to see how some people reacted to different situations. They would start shaking, not follow you, refuse orders outright, fire wildly at nothing/you, start having nervous breakdowns and eventually commit suicide. What a shame that some of the transformations were scripted otherwise the game would have been perfect. Carpenter himself even thinks the game is a good canonical sequel to the film.

>>16312184

Yeah I guess if they had a sequel the could randomise who gets transformed even share it with the animals in the party. It's a shame I missed it.

>>16312230

Stop strawmanning. What is actually argued is that the good games are fewer and further between, and perhaps that even those ones don't hit the same highs that previous eras' good games did.

>>16276987

dont you mean even the best thing that come out now dont even come close to the worst shit that came out back then?

>>16312264

Disney knew nobody wanted this movie, so they bought tons of tickets themselves and sent them out to people who didn't even want them, resulting in tons of empty theaters and inflated numbers that actually help nobody except theater operators, although even they aren't helped much since they make most of their money off of popcorn and stuff, which nobody was buying since they weren't going to the movies since nobody actually wanted to see the movie and Disney had to buy all the tickets themselves.

This is also a franchise, where souring the audience on the franchise has far reaching effects. The same company claimed The Last Jedi was a success too, but then it soured everyone on Solo, and even though they also claimed that was a success, they cancelled all the other Soy Wars spinoff films.

>>16312192

No shit man, I'm talking about traditional tie in games for current gen consoles that adapt and expand on the movie itself. Those are gone.

>>16312281

B-but muh Russian downvoting troll bots

>>16312306

>*"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""best"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Ever heard the phrase, "best of a bad lot?"

>>16312306

>>dude disney totally bought the tickets themselves

This isn't just a hypothesis. It's public knowledge. They bought up tons of tickets to give away through fandango for things like spending enough money with certain credit cards. They sent them to people automatically, without the customers even having to ask. They bought out entire theaters so you couldn't go to see anything else that weekend. It's all public knowledge.

>And it was

It soured everyone on a beloved franchise so that the next entry underperformed and they had to cancel most of the movies they had planned in a franchise they had only recently paid $4billion for.

>plus the haters made a mockery of themselves on Twitter and other social media

Anyone on Twitter or other social media is already a mockery of life, yes. That's why it's mostly full of SJWs.

>by harassing actors

By that metric, you're harassing me, you literal rapist.

>and making autistic as fuck campaigns.

Where do you think we are? Autism isn't an insult around here.

>Doesn't matter if that actually happened, history is always written by the victors. Most normalfags believe it was russian bots too.

If that were the case, Trump wouldn't have won. The people running media outlets keep trying to push narratives that are so out of touch with both reality and normalfags that they're only pushing said normalfags further and further away and destroying their own industries. Get woke, go broke.

>>16312312

>Literally nobody on this planet can make a good game anymore.

They can, but they get kept out by SJW gatekeepers, so the only things that can be made are tiny indie projects that nobody will ever hear of because SJW gatekeepers also control publicity, and instead promote things that are hardly indie and hardly games while actively attempting to destroy and ban anything that isn't made by their clique.

>>16312360

Yes and no. Media that goes overboard tanks. It's just that they don't give a shit about hemorrhaging money because spreading propaganda is more important.

Is ID: c3c447 the blackpill shill migrated to /v/?

>>16312233

>zoomers

Crawl back to whatever hole you came out of.

>>16312422

>$1 billion

>Theatres are completely emtpy

Jee, no narrative going on here.

>>16312422

So how much did that cost to make, and how much to market?

>>16312424

I don't get this image, that's a perfectly fine Xenomorph drone.

>>16312385

He moves around when vols/BO ban his ass and proxies enough.

t./k/

>>16312388

Do Hotline Miami 2, Kingdom Come, Euro Truck Sim 2, Talos Principle, and such not count? First two sold well and had backlash (rape scene in HM2, and no nigs in KC:D).

Sage for rhetorical question

>>16312422

>implying that they're telling the truth

>>16312499

>TLOU and its sequel

Has that piece if shit even come out yet?

>>16312499

You're beginning to sound awful close to blackbillfag.

>>16312306

yes, the best, even though modern media is shit, that is still their "best" it doesnt make them good, its just the least worst thing out there that has come this decade. its the diffference in standards that streches across time, a 10/10 back then, is not the same as what people would classify a 10/10 in todays standards, how is this not an easy concept to grasp? unless you are autistic or retarded

>>16312526

It's because it is. Who else spams threads with "WE LOST THEY WON KILL YOURSELVES GO-GUYS!" and uses cuckchan lingo like the outsider he is?

>>16312482

To this day I am mad Hollywood kikes didn't feature the Colonial Marines in any of the AvP movies.

>and waiting for a movie isn't necessary to get people to buy it

That's true for most movie tie-in games. There's really no need to follow the plot of the movie, it just needs to release close to when the movie is screening in theaters. This would allow the developers both the freedom and time to make something good that could sell on its own merit even after the movie hype died down.

>>16312646

Nice ID hop, but I'll keep playing Terraria, EYE, New Vegas, Vicky II, Age of Decadence, and such. HM2 is worse than HM1, yeah.

>>16276433

Mobile games killed them since it was easier to make a shitty mobbage game then a shitty console game

>>16278011

Growth is explosive, decay is gradual.

>>16329605

>Speaking of the handheld games, were they any good?

All the GBA are worth playing. Not sure about everything after beginning with OotP.

Rango made an excellent PS3 rental for me. It reminded me of Ratchet and Clank.

>>16276551

>Elder Scrolls games

They play Skyrim and barely qualifies.

>>16312247

I played the shit out of that, as you say rough but awfully good fun, chaining together outlandish asskickings was a lark.