/v/ - Video Games

>I am ready for Ouya 2.0.

Considering google makes android is literally will be the Ouya all over again.

>>16260992

Cool source bro.

>>16260992

Botnet is not video games, sage

>>16261019

Its going to be a streambox that vomits out ad inclusive dreamcast and genesis shit because Sammy and their bloated Hawaiian underlings are too hopped up on Ice to do anything else.

>>16261035

Being a part of the botnet is cool

>>16261035

its at GDC for a reason. This is all part of "signal boosting the right narrative" and the marxist indoctrination campaign both google internal and gdc in general have been doing for years.

>The service will launch around this summer, and it will simply be called Google Stream.

>It will cost around $14.99 a month.

>It will first be available on Android phones and the web, but will expand to iOS devices and smart TVs in 2020. The dedicated console will basically just be a rebranded Chromecast.

>It will be heavily integrated with YouTube. There will be a feature that lets you instantly pull up walkthroughs on YouTube for when you get stuck, and there will be an option to instantly upload your footage, and a feature allowing streamers to let anyone instantly play against them.

>Google will go absolutely crazy with exclusives. Think the Epic Store, but even worse. Any game that's not coming out in the next 3 months, already exclusive to another platform, or an itch.io level indie game will be Free Real Estate™ for them. At the very least, every Ubisoft game going forward will be an exclusive. This is probably somewhat paranoid, but I'd bet that a few existing games will be pulled from their existing storefronts in favor of Google Stream.

>Many of the exclusives will focus on new types of gameplay that aren't possible with existing consoles. One of the first games will be a 1000-player battle royale game with fully destructible environments.

>Many indie games that went viral on YouTube will be exclusives. I predict that the next Five Nights at Freddy's game, a sequel to Hello Neighbor, and maybe even Deltarune will all be exclusive to the service.

>Assuming Sony doesn't acquire Take Two (and therefore Rockstar), the next GTA game will be an exclusive. It will have a map at least 10 times as large as GTA V.

>The service will receive a massive backlash from hardcore gamers on an unbeforeseen level. The front page of /v/ will be almost entirely posts about the service for a few days.

>Other upcoming games that will become Google Stream exclusives include Doom Eternal, Starfield, and Beyond Good and Evil 2.

>To complement the service, Google will develop their own game engine. It will be designed to take advantage of the cloud.

>Sega's exclusives to the service will include a Sonic Adventure remake and a Jet Set Radio reboot.

>If the service fails, it will close down after 3 years. Most of the exclusive games will be released on more traditional platforms, but the more cloud-focused games will be completely lost to time.

>>16261051

Does your uncle work at Google? If so, tell him to pull out before the pajeets try to eat his brain.

>>16261051

You fucked up at the Sony part. Sony owns the playstation, why would the decide to only publish on the Shekelbox 88?

>>16261064

The East India Company ran from 1600 to 1874 and it was the richest company in the whole history of the world. Assuming no better search services or page ranking algorithm gets invented, I don't think they'll ever be able to reach that age, given that every company associated with the internet ages at least ten times faster than its real life counterpart.

>>16261082

>>16261051

This is good though. Finally, we'll have a clear separation between normalfags and hobbyists. If luck is on our side, normalfags will never even KNOW of our vidya, because Jewgle will simplyl not let them.

>>16260992

Easy to figure out what (((their))) plan is

>You buy game

>play shooting game or VR game

>google tracks information

>google puts you on list

>you die in an (((accident)))

>>16261072

oh no.

I hope they enjoy selling ad data from gaynigger123.

Also if you connect your social media then you're asking for it.

>>16261072

What made people stop using vent, IRC,etc?

What makes discord so good that almost every fag is uisng it?

>>16261100

>normalfags vs hobbyists

yeah hobbyists just use a PC and emulate shit, but i hope it gets beat out by atari or intellevision

Has google announced how it will deal with latency issues?

Does google think that everyone in the country has google fiber?

Good

>>16261115

its literally the first talking point in the webm, turn on sound

>>16261051

This isn't even good bait, try harder

>>16261069

>>16261067

>>16261083

>>16261100

>>16261131

>>16261134

I literally copy pasted this from a leddit thread and edited it to look like a leak

You guys need to be less gullible

https://archive.fo/AqZ1s

>>16261115

>What makes discord so good that almost every fag is uisng it?

Easy to install and set up

Traditional username-password login system

No messing with intimidating techno babble like IP addresses

Can be linked to other social media accounts which normalfags do not recognize as being a bad idea

>>16261035

It's going to run android and play all phone games in existence but on a HD screen.

It will sell millions on retarded gacha addicts alone.

Waiting for the AskJeeves console, personally.

>>16261151

>>16261142

It may as well be a leak though because it's the worst possibly case scenario, which of course means it's going to happen

Thats a fucking dreamcast in the second picture you faggots, Sega sold their shit to them. Expect old Sega IP's.

>>16261167

>Thats a fucking dreamcast in the second picture you faggots

Try actually reading the OP next time.

>>16261143

>but on a HD screen.

Is it going to be poorly upscaled because the assets were made for a screen that is at most 10 inches with a 720dp

>>16261151

Yes, when everyone can use your product anyone will use it.

I'm just waiting for a major data breach to wake people up

>>16261214

wasnt there already a huge data breach but lterally no one cared about it?

>>16261236

Equifax?

>>16260992

Always online

no disc player

no exclusives

indieshit

CLOUDz

>>16260992

The only way to launch this piece of rubbish is providing extremely cheap yet good VR sets, else it will be a failure.

>>16261268

The entire tech sector is just a mass government subsidy and tax writeoff loop of useless bullshit.

>>16261274

Oh by no means, get me wrong, I'm more than acquainted with the nonsense that keeps the tech industry afloat.

Abuse of laws meant to deter forgery being exploited to circumvent consumer ownership

Debatable contracts of at best questionable legality that nearly all contain a "If you try to sue us you have to go to a court we control xDDDD" clause in it.

Long since necessary antitrust action needed

It just seems completely and totally illogical for them to do such unarguably useless things

>>16261056

Brooms sweep, vacuums suck

>>16261112

The author never matters, the content he produces (messages, text or otherwise) reveals more about him than any lies he tells

>>16261292

I was referring to the service itself but w/e

>>16261019

Did Google ever have success with anything other than datamining?

Every project they touch dies.

Literally nobody has a Google Glass, Google+ is dead this "console" will die, too.

>>16261530

Datamining is barely callable as a success considering they've likely sold information on every human on the planet by now.

>>16261530

Well there's Android, but that's only because Microsoft is incompetent.

>>16261542

Can you really call android a "success" though? I think it's just that nobody bothers with Mobile operating systems

>>16261539

I mean monetary success. Buying YouTube sure as shit was not done for the money but they get that back from the gubbernmint.

What actual projects they developed and designed to be products for the people have hit off and made them money?

>>16261542

>Android

I know too little about that, but I could very much imagine it being full of backdoors for the glow in the darks.

Isn't it (((free)))?

>>16260992

Google Play console

>>16261082

If that happens Google will inject their political agenda into any franchise it buys out. That's the ultimate plan.

>>16261552

>their ultimate plan

>not getting people that down own alexas to own their spyware console

a microphone in every home in america

It'll flop.

>>16261035

>NO library

stupid thing to say so early.

It’s very simple, google is afraid of twitch becoming the new YouTube and that’s why this is a countermove.

They’ll probably give it away for free.

>>16261600

Your console will bomb.

>>16261137

>only one fell for it with another almost falling for it

Yeah anon, you sure tricked them all.

>>16261610

>saying PC gaming will bomb

foolish console warrior.

>>16261035

>The question I keep asking myself is WHY would anyone want this?

Wait for Google and the tech websites to tell you why you should buy another gimmick that spies on you. They already forced people to buy those shitty Alexa and other "smart" devices that serve no real purpose other than gathering data in a room.

>>16260992

Streaming is the next logical step of digital distribution, anyone that has paid for digital distribution voted with their wallets for games to be streaming only.

>Having the Dreamcast and PS1 encased in front of their stand thing as though bowing to their better

Ironic considering Dreamcast and PS1 were physical only like games should be

>>16261608

>They’ll probably give it away for free.

That's what I've been thinking. If it's another Android box with mobile phone hardware, it's the only way I can see it not becoming Ouya 2.0.

>>16261668

I bet it won't even have wired controllers.

>>16261655

>being this illiterate

google is hiring from everywhere these days, huh?

>>16261687

That wouldn't be a surprise.

I'm expecting this thing to be the biggest normalfag piece of shit ever, with sports and bejeweled clones being the most advertised games.

>>16261064

it probably has enough funds to last for 100 years tbh

>>16261731

>sports

Not if EA has anything to say about it.

>>16261741

About all I could see is them getting exclusives along the lines of handheld versions of games. EA and SE are in somewhat deep on android at this point, of course that's not selling me on jackshit though.

>>16261741

Are you on the development team? Is that how you know what will be on the system? What kinda specs we looking at here?

>>16261752

Anon, both the face and picture are shopped.

>>16261741

If people want a phone console, they'd just get an NVidia Sheild TV. There's no reason for the Google Box to exist.

>>16261752

>>16261769

sadly, people might buy a Google Box or Googlestation, whatitcalled, because it has the name to it and it connects to their botnet.com account. That way soys can sync their contacts and stream Ridge Racer 69 multiplayer, even if it looks worse than RR 5

>>16261741

>Even AAA devs, as dumb as they are, won't fall for this scam.

Games being streaming only = no piracy, all devs would love that.

>>16261784

It's just an NVidia Sheild TV with a Google logo slapped on it.

>>16261785

>Games being streaming only = no piracy

It's cute how devs believe that.

>>16261791

I don't know how it would be possible to pirate if all game data is being streamed to you from a server, unless an insider leaks the game and a streaming emulator is made.

>>16261798

Every bullshit the industry tries to pull, pirates innovate to get what they want.

Piracy is just a game and they don't mind playing hard mode.

>>16261798

or if someone comes up with a pirated / cracked client that makes possible to stream the game without paying. Of course it's a shit alternative that'll probably break every other week and must be updated / patched constantly.

>>16261798

The BS Games from the Super Nintendo was pirated despite being streamed with only a limited time run.

>>16261826

Or simply rip streamed games and have them fully downloaded.

>>16261546

>Can you really call android a "success" though?

>85% of smartphone market share

>most popular OS in the world

>somehow not a success

Seriously?

>>16261832

That depends on what kind of system the streaming service uses. You're assuming the actual game data will be streamed and processed locally by the user's cpu and gpu, if that's the case then yeah, ripping is theoretically possible - after pirates manage to break the strong encryption they'll probably use, of course.

But in some services the entire processing is done server-side, and all we receive is the compressed video and audio data. How are you going to "rip" or "fully download" that, other than breaking into their servers?

>>16261853

The way normal fag games are going you can just watch them on YouTube or twitch

>>16261850

People buy phones, not OSes. Iphone fucked up by removing the headphone jack, basically. That's enough to make people convert.

Like

>>16262009

said.

But Android as a phone + and OS would be considered a success, though.

>>16261825

Its not "hardmode" its "re-developing the backend of a game without any access to the existing assets."

This is not denuvo, its MMO-server emulation tier, and no scene group is gonna touch that from a mile away leaving only whoever may cares enough about candycrush2 to develop it for free in their spare time.

>>16261827

Said games were also downloaded as a whole and then played back afaik. Just grab whatever got downloaded and run that, relatively easy (if hacking a piece of hard or sofware is easy) as you dont have to program parts of the game.

>>16260992

Oh boy! I can't wait to get noplatformed for voicing my views outside of their console.

>>16260992

It really is just going to be Ouya 2.0, isn't it?

All it's going to have is the Android library and maybe a few ports, but that's it. The newest feature will be it monitoring everything you do.

>>16261902

I won't argue with that. Still, anyone can bet their endgame is the second type of streaming I described, turning computers and future consoles into just dumb terminals to interact with the games running on their servers.

>>16262215

>It really is just going to be Ouya 2.0, isn't it?

I truly hope so. Considering who's behind this, Ouya 2.0 is the best possible outcome.

>>16261051

You forgot the free soy injections and poz pill dispenser.

>>16262009

>I don't believe anyone actually you know, likes android as an operating system. Y'know?

I really do. Not in a "this is technically excellent" sense, but in a "this is usable enough and pretty customizable" sense, contrasting to very much not-customizable iOS. Also consider, a manufacturer-customized Android can be pretty different (and often notably worse) than pure "stock" Android as Google designed it.

We've had the same 3 console companies for 3 generations. I'd like to see Google put out their own successful console just to prove that it can be done. Not like I'm going to be buying ANY console ever again, so it doesn't really matter how shit it is.

Of course if they just release an Ouya or a stream-box it will fail, but while their track record might not be great if any company has the capital to make a standard console work it's Google.

>>16262694

I don't even understand your problem. By "make it work" I mean a financial success that catches on as the 4th big console competitor. It will be shit obviously, but I don't care. They are pissing into an ocean of piss and I just want it to be funny.

>>16262701

A financial success for google doesn't mean a success or a good thing for people who like to play games, FAGGOT

Do you need ever shittier games and ever more dumbed down playing?

>>16262704

Three consoles already exist, a 4th won't change anything.

>>16262714

I started pirating because of Steam. Most people who play games these days, especially on PC, are non-gaming casuals that would otherwise not play games if it weren't for easy access granted by platforms like Steam, they wouldn't even bother pirating.

>>16261791

>It's cute how devs believe that.

but it's true. you literally can't pirate a game from a video stream. the software's running remotely and you only get a video feed. and even if you do somehow manage to leak a copy of the game from a remote server, good luck getting it to run without the hardware. the closest to piracy you can do is stream without paying, but that wouldn't be pirating the game.

if you're talking about the game running locally, but assets and code being downloaded dynamically as you play, there could be a chance, but I bet the first person to put up or release software for an alt server will get shut down or worse faster than the guys who created AlterIWNet.

if you're talking about games running a la MMO (game assets stored locally running in thin client, server keeping track of game state), then it's also possible but it will be even harder to set up (need them server-side scripts, values, events, etc.) and also be subject to the previous problem.

>>16261824

>android

>good, ever.

pick one. plenty of phones still ship with shitty botnet Remote Access Tools courtesy of the prevalence of Bring Your Own Device schemes. Android has that worthless all-or-nothing permission system. Too bad most apps won't work unless you consent to getting your ass datamined, requiring installation of shit like xprivacy to spoof the botnet crap (e.g. location, phone state and identity, internet access). also the DRM and Jewgle's war on device ownership and rooting (Samsung KNOX, SafetyNet) is particularly infuriating and reminds of the absolute shit that was Windows RT.

>>16262843

>Android has that worthless all-or-nothing permission system

That hasn't been true for at least the last two major revisions if not three

>>16262665

>>16262698

yeah well free software is useless if it won't let you do your job fungus eater. maybe if you weren't so autistic and actually gave actual reasons e.g. avoiding vendor lock-in, possibility of adapting/fixing software to suit needs of organization, avoiding corporate espionage instead of going full >muh freedumbs people would listen more.

>>16262582

>I really do

anon, we're at the tipping point where Android is almost more bloated than Windows. Both require over 1 GB of RAM to run and over 1 GHz of CPU power yes, I know a 2 W SoC isn't even 10% as powerful as a desktop CPU but that doesn't change the fact that you're wasting 30% of available resources on the OS alone. I wouldn't use Android even if they paid me. the only reason to use it is because there's no other non-faggot alternative for phones and popular messaging apps run on it. Purism's Librem 5 seems promising but at $650 it's nuts.

>>16262854

apps will often crash if you don't give them the shit they want. hence xprivacy to feed them bogus data.

>>16262879

In principle I agree, you should expect a mobile system to be better optimized. But even low cost phones (sub-$200) often come with 4GB RAM these days, so it's no longer that much of a problem.

>>16264990

>that lag

My sides

>>16261204

>christ how blind i was.

the logo is literally a pig snout which is what the developers of discord have always perceived their users as….

>>16262665

one laptop for penguin os for shitposting and illegal downloads and win7 for playing pornographic japanese vidya.

>>16262684

The xbox by all metrics is a fialure. It just stays around because MS keeps throwing money at it.

>>16265201

Hypnosis is fine, but ERP is retarded in any form.

>>16261019

>shadman

>>16265205

Dead on arrival. Google will fuck it up just like they've been fucking up everything in the past 10 years.

The whole company is Jews, Pajeets, tumblrtards, otherkin and furries, with a few remaining white men around holding the circus together.

>>16265213

honestly it makes shadman look good

Reposting from GDC Thread.

>"Games as a service"

>always online

>controller literally spies on you

>OnLive 2.0: the Slackening

>"Ubisoft has always been at the forefront of"

>buttery smooth 18 frames per second

>visible seconds of input lag during demonstration

>glitching and flashing polys on prerendered splash screen

>requires Google Chrome

>"The data center is your platform"

>not a single white person in any promotional material

>streaming and ecelebrities made a priority

>promises of streaming 8k at 120fps

>"no cheating, no hacking"

>modding referred to as a negative

>someone in a wizard costume on stage

>fucking MatPat appears to present

>then Jade from Jade's Game

>"Humanity could have gone to Pluto 10 times and back" but watched Youtube instead

>skip button if game is too hard

>stream advertising streamed game service repeats/skips

>launches only in 4 European countries

>price conveniently not mentioned

We are witnessing the rebirth of the PC as a white hobbyist system with low-budget but fun as fuck games.

>>16265175

Did Google DMCA the file? Didn't had time to fetch it.

>>16265216

Maybe not DoA, they have a few spare millions to give to twitch whore shilling for it. And the masses following those whores will oblige.

That said, it will go back to games running on PC, it's the cycle of mainframe -> personal ->mainframe programs.

Also if I ever finish this first game, I won't put it on streaming services, even if they don't take overhead money.

google must be living in a fantasy world where the lag problem doesn't exist. Probably from the same school as AOC with her green new deal. The idea has been done before and failed. It'd be great in concept but the lag is a huge obstacle that hasn't been overcome yet. We still have that in games that use online and vr games. Maybe in another 10-15 years they could try again but at this current moment, unless their is a major internet restructuring, this shit is failing hard.

>>16265264

>It'd be great in concept

kys urself

>>16265264

No, they even have lag themselves but just choose to ignore it to keep up the facade.

Can someone get me more information about this Spyware Controller? I missed the conference but this is what sticks out to me a lot right now.

I started pirating when PC went digital only, this isn't going to get me to stop pirating.

>>16265268

Input lag is one of the worst things you can have, the fact those people were clapping is the sure sign that they're not actually anyone who plays videogames. Probably either paids to clap or just a bunch of hipsters who always attends this shit.

>>16265321

That whole audience was likely employees.

>>16265315

the switch joycons also have microphones

>>16265363

Most of humanity needs to be exterminated.

>>16265315

Digital distribution is inherently Games as a Service

Only games I buy are the occasional DRM free physical release that PC gets and sometimes an old game off of ebay

>>16265369

Any game I can download and store on an external hard drive is a Game as a Product. So no, Digital Distribution is not inherently Games as a Service.

>>16265373

That is a service, you are not paying for the game, you are paying for everything but the game such as the ability to download it from their "special" server. So yes, digital distribution is inherently Games as a Service.

>>16265409

Google are the journos Payne.

>>16265432

Year of the Bunker/In The Woods.

>>16261051

>PC games will soon be split up between a number of exclusive competitors just like consoles

>>16265447

They already are.

>>16265458

>ebin Konami code nerd cred

Kill me pete

>>16265458

Is that a fucking camera on the back

Mark my words: if Stadia becomes popular it WILL become a tool for the SJWs. "Problematic" games will become a thing of the past. If can't play a trans character you can forget about selling titles.

>>16265466

looks like a power jack or a socket of some kind

>>16265458

>20 GB per hour

OY VEY I hope you goys bought the unlimited internet package

What the fuck is this shit? Is anyone excited for this trash?

I see a lot of youtube shills already saying "THIS IS THE BIGGEST REVOLUTION IN GAMES" and "THROW AWAY YOUR GAME CONSOLES", making me think this is going to be another Pro 200. This isn't revolutionary in any way, this is basically just GameTap from 12 years ago.

>>16265458

>20 GB per hour

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH NO ONE IN THE WEST CAN AFFORD THAT

>>16265466

How else will they see your dick at all times?

>>16265500

>a lot of youtube shills

They're whores that do what they are told.

>>16265509

>>16265518

Youtube shills are the modern day salesman.

>>16265264

>It'd be great in concept

The concept is the worst part of it. There are plenty of games where input lag doesn't really matter, and those would work fine on this. The problem is that it takes control away from users and puts it in the hands of publishers. No more mods. No more keeping games that got pulled because of copyright fuckery or simple butthurt. No more piracy, because even customers don't get the game files.

>>16265532

Any game that doesn't really need good controls probably doesn't need to be streamed anyway since it could be played on nearly any hardware. It's quite literally a manufactured solution looking for a manufactured problem.

>>16265500

It's a generic feel-good millennial ad, describing this as the next huge thing. Of course the target audience is eating it up like the good little goy they are.

>>16265228

>price conveniently not mentioned

Same price as anything else on Google: your soul

>>16265537

>Any game that doesn't really need good controls probably doesn't need to be streamed anyway since it could be played on nearly any hardware.

You're forgetting that devs don't know how to optimize anymore.

>>16265608

The video game world is 90% interns, 5% indie hipster faggots, 5% old vanguard who can still makes games.

>>16265458

>Konami code on a controller that doesn't even have an actual START button

>20GB per hour

Top wew. I'm in 3rdworld land with thankfully unlimited fiber, but that is surely going to fuck over pretty much everyone with a shitty ISP that has data caps in home connections.

>>16265492

If it makes you feel any better

That's a total lie, no rocket engineer who's going to invent the quantum wampum drive that'll zip zoom your ass to pluto, would be wasting all his potential on youtube.

Natural talent is a thing

Just pray Google invests all their money into this project only for so few people to buy it Microsoft's Xbone 2 looks successful by comparison.

>>16265727

Gamepass is already mainstream though

It's essentially objectively superior PS+

>>>/v/16265774

Imagine being so pathetic you spam this shit

I tried to get people to boycott Valve into bankruptcy when they launched Steam but no one listened.

I tried again when they released Half Life 2 but no one listened.

I warned console players to boycott digital distribution but they didn't listen.

>>16265784

>>16265795

How's asses and elbows wrong, though?

>>16265795

>avatarfagging

>>>/4um/

>>16265801

Take the third u out of uruguay

>>16265816

Report and ignore

>>16265857

You said too many buzzwords for me

>>16265875

He's got the eyes of facebook and zenimax on him. God knows who is really holding a gun to the back of his head.

>>16265857

Honestly the only people who'd buy this shitshow are those illiterate enough to have laggy monitors, so they'd be looking at literally seconds of lag, making anything but turn-based games a non-proposition

>>16265857

This is an incredibly stupid statement to make because the lag from streaming will be added to the lag from shitty displays, not replace it. Carmack should be smarter than this.

>>16265871

>set up to become a massive hit

So it's going to fail immediately? Because that's exactly what happens in the movie industry now.

>>16265925

Carmack is a salesman

Romero's not especially better, but still

>>16265925

I've been telling people for years Ultima Underworld was more technically impressive than Doom and games like Magic Carpet had destructible environments and full 3d movement before Quake even began development but nobody listened. Atari was right to not credit developers.

>>16265920

gib sauce

>>16265964

https://twitter.com/krisgraft/status/1108121139815964673

>>16265925

I'm finding it harder and harder to really put trust into the words of Carmack, he slipped his fingers with MEGATEXTURES, he did vr for minecraft & thinks RUST is good

>>16265772

I expect it to be a big thing on launch, but die very very quickly afterwards. Even normalfags would get fed up with the massive input delay and their internet not being good enough. Also 20GB an hour for data, nobody without unlimited would do that on their phones.

>>16265228

Looks like Google finally made a containment platform for gaming journos and eceleb streamers.

Good god, they can all circlejerk there, hopefully forever.

>>16266206

Fucking true. The only thing people talk about in Sega history is how they died out cause they fucked themselves over. Everyone only remembers the bad about Sega and it's doing the company a great injustice.

>>16266206

Funny you should mention Sega and PC game graphics considering the first nvidia card was optimized specifically for Saturn ports.

>>16266218

If they keep using sonic as their mascot and pushing out broken 3d games like forces than yes that will still be the status quo. And this if from a guy who got Vanquish and Resonance of Fate on PS3 and then on PC when they came out.

>>16265938

Yeah, yeah, Ultima Underworld was impressive. But it really needed a then very expensive 386DX (no wimpy SX!) to run decently, and even so, it was limited to that tiny viewport.

Video related: Wolfenstein 3D, released around the same time, running smooth and near full-screen, on a much cheaper 286. Is it a surprise that people played that instead of UU?

>>16260992

I've yet to see genuine excitement about this from any community.

I need to know what is in the water to make a bunch of companies suddenly start making shittty consoles. Don't android phones already fill the need of this?

>>16265315

>That article

Steambox/Ouya all over again.

>>16261732

what in the world is that

>>16266206

>For all the talk people give Doom for pioneering graphic tech on PC, arcade games from the likes of Sega AM2 made Id's games look like dogshit.

Sure. But then, how much did a computer cost? A couple thousand, tops? Carmack had to squeeze all he could out of that. The Sega Model 2 cost $15,000, and it was based on a multi-million-dollarydoos flight simulator by Martin Marietta.

>>16266325

Take your fanboying and reddit spacing and shove it up your ass.

>>16266367

What was uncalled for. He made a decent point

>>16266376

No. The entire point was that Carmack is propped up as a technical genius yet the moment things more technically advanced gets brought up the faggots immediately go "but Id games were cheaper" like that was ever even the argument to begin with. It's textbook character shilling.

…. I'd rather buy a fucking ouya… at least the meme art people drew of it is funny (if not a little sad and disheartening at times, like the one of it digging through a dumpster for some froggy game or something)…

the meme art of goggles spy device would just be some problem-glasses "i want to parley with the CEO" haircut, standing in your living room being offended at you exist and breaking all your games because they're "problematic" and only loading shit like gone home and the last of us or something (but refusing to let you play the game and instead just making you watch the lesbo scenes over and over)

>>16266398

I'm kinda surprised google didn't already commission some fan art illicitly in advance to shill it. They must just be that out of touch.

most shocking reveal was that id is pronounced like a retard and not eye dee.

>>16266443

Id is a real word.

>>16265458

Where is this 20GB figure coming from? I don't see it on the site. Was it part of the stream?

>>16266384

No, my point is that id's games looked good and ran well on hardware that was not beyond the reach of 99% of the audience. Carmack was really good at optimizing his shit back then.

>>16266502

Pretty much scratch off anything not coming from California or Seattle.

>>16266505

I think you can file that under 4,5, and 6.

>>16266502

Anything requiring reactions, cheat engine, importing games, undubs

>>16266514

Cheats are usually, technically, mods. And importing games is a kind of preservation, isn't it?

This will never work. Even if google had a good track record with this sort of thing, it still wouldn't work. The amount of money that Google will through at this utter failure will keep other companies from attempting or pushing it in the future. Overall, this can be considered a good thing.

>>16266502

>when streaming games takes over

It never will. You will undoubtedly have a company who comes out against it, and fucking memes all over the companies that do all the things you said (and make no mistake, they will do all of those things), and markets to people who still want to be able to mod, devs who want to make games that big companies would absolutely collude with the big platforms to refuse to carry in order to monopolize the market, and people who want to either own physical media or at least have a downloaded copy of the game for their own use whenever… and whoever does it will fucking DESTROY those "stream games" services to the point they die off or have to massively change their tactics up to try to stay in the business

Just look at a few years ago and how sony skull fucked microsoft about games sharing, and then microsoft had to immediately reverse course on its new policy because people were absolutely going to tell microsoft to fuck off for the next gen consoles and they'd have lost billions in revenue over it.

Someone will come along and do the same, they'll be massively supported because of it, and those "streaming" platforms will either have to unfuck themselves, or die fast

>>16266523

I'm trying to do this pose right now but it feels either impossible or shameful since I can't see myself in a mirror or anything.

>>16266567

I think it's on PSN, just not on the store. People could still buy it via a download code at Best Buy

>>16266280

Same, I've been looking around the usual places to see if anyone actually liked this, but no. Not even fucking leddit cares. Not a thing about it on the front page.

>>16266600

Well makes sense, I don't think Google has any brand loyalty from anyone, and the expo didn't show anything to be excited about. Sure, if you're retarded you can say that the future is now and you'll be able to play anything from THE POWER OF TEH CLAWD, but it's not like they revealed something people actually want to play so no one gives a shit.

>>16266607

Netflix has bled money since it's inception and is only kept alive through a bubble made by dumb investors and the funds from (((certain people))) who want to use it to spread propaganda.

>>16266607

There is nothing convenient about game streaming.

>>16266598

Even if the game can be sold again, it's mere existence is a convoluted legal mess, because the rights to the entire OST were revoked for whatever reason, and nobody knows who hold the game's copyright anymore

>>16266567

>>16266615

you can pirate the game

And surprise it was dogshit

>>16266600

Quarerpounder made a video about it and even the comments there shit on it for being a google powered streaming box.

I think this one is going to be a hard sale with normalfags. They only buy on "hype or shitstorm" based logic and i can already smell the stink before the storm.

>>16266607

Shitty TV shows and Movies are watch once and ur done. Games not so much. Streaming will never take off.

>>>/v/16266627

>…

You're really bad at blackpill shilling. Just letting you know.

>>16266619

>check out of curiosity who holds the rights to the game

>it's fucking Ubisoft

Well, looking at this thread and how bleak the future in vidya is going to be if this take off, might as well retake my proyect of buying several sdd and start my backlog

>>16266587

Youd have to break your arm in order to nail it ;^)

My problem with this isn't even the inevitable latency issues, it's ownership of the games.

Back in the day you had the hardware, and the game in physical form. No one could take them away from you. Then came along steam, and sure you could theoretically get banned and lose your library at any time, but at least you had the game data on your pc, right? You could turn on offline mode or crack the games if you had to. Now you don't even get that. You have nothing. You have a video stream of the game that can be completely gone in the blink of an eye.

This can not be allowed to become the norm.

>>16266607

Yes but you can still buy the physical media just fine. Theres still a rather large market for it in fact. And theres competition in that market for the different genres and even among the "general" category (ie: everything under the sun can be on it) from the likes of hulu, and inevitably some others will show up. And as someone else said, netflix, like youtube, is kept alive by investors and other companies basically who seek to use it to herd users into a single space and spy on them. Gamers tend to be a slightly more savvy lot than your average tech-illiterate 30 something single mom who just wants to spend all her time watching supernatural and masturbating to the main characters

A gaming platform wont work that way. At the very least because their wankoff material will be completely censored, and we all know tits make the world go round. I mean consider how much bullshit was stirred up because jiggly-titty-volley-ball 3 wasnt released in the west, and how many people bought it from play asia or such because of that fact.

If you censor and control what its allowed to the point that its only big company bullshit and at any time you may lose access to the games you paid for because "sorry we no longer stream that game because someone somewhere got offended by the patch of cloth on generic female npc #43" then people just aren't going to subscribe to it. They're going to stick with something like steam at least, but it might also open up more markets in the long run.

Yes, convenience is one thing, and having easy and quick access to the material you want is all well and good, allowing you to quickly and easily get right into what you want to do without having all the other fluff around (ie: need for the console or gaming pc). But given the technical limitations that will exist, the simple fact no one has a stable or broad enough connection 100% of the time for that shit other than fucking corporations, and the relatively low cost for consoles and adequate gaming pc setups that can play these games and will be good for half a decade or more (and with pcs are upgradable so that you dont even need to replace the whole thing, just individual parts)… its just not going to attract and maintain a crowd that can financially support it, at which point it will crash and burn

On the plus side, it WILL inevitably take all the twitch whores and other streamers away from the rest of the services, because they dont actually care about games or playing them, certainly not replaying them or playing the same game for long periods of time, its all about w/e the most recent buzz is all about in order to get attention and views and donations/subs. But actual users who try it will be disgusted and leave for reasons I've stated. It may also attract most of the "fair weather" "gamers" who only bandwagoned on for the attention… and who play candy crush and shit.. they'll move over, and stay in their containment zone just like the netflix whores

Meanwhile the rest of us will continue on the way we have, thankful to be rid of the stream whores and "gurl gamurz"

>>16266627

>Pay some small install monthly and have access to an enormous library of games that run on anything with a screen

And it won't make a difference if that enormous library of games is 90% shovelware. A big effort is going to be made if Google wants to make a gaming platform that can coexist with Steam, and seeing all of Google's previous failures I'm inclined to think that this will be another flop.

>>16266637

Nothing wrong with being a pessimist. Blackpill fag isn't banned on sight because he's blackpilling, but because he's a massive fucking faggot.

>Streaming as a service

Yeah that shit's gay, Though Local streaming is finally in a stable place, been using Steamlink on the Pi3 with great success both wired and wireless

>>16266667

Confirmed, goy console will succeed, at least slightly.

>>16266671

Maybe, but the absolute FIRST time something people have been playing gets pulled down because of some issue or another, and suddenly everyone who enjoys it loses access to it.. its going to be a massive shitshow

Not to mention that, as I said before, technical limitations exist that make this rather difficult to work effectively anyway. But add on top of that the fact that inevitably any service online is going to get hacked or ddos'd or have to go down for maint or w/e else. I mean, how often does PS's online shit get hit so hard it has to go down for hours at a time? Now imagine a lot of pissed off people and others are all fucking with the service constantly, the servers are going into maint during prime hours, and suddenly these people paying these subs cant even play games when they want to.. meanwhile, if they owned their own consoles and/or physical media (or at least a digital copy on their own hard drives) they'd still be able to play

Hell, thinking about it like that, I doubt even the twitch whores and the like will stick around, considering how much connection bandwidth the service itself will use up, there wont be a lot left for them to stream to an audience, leaving it choppy or shitty. Then add into it people fucking with the service during prime hours so that they cant even play so they cant view-stream themselves, and suddenly all their shekels go byebye as well…

yeah.. I just dont think this thing is going to last. It might for a few months.. but long term? Nope. Its going to be looked back on as a fucking case study in everything NOT to do

>>16266667

Your get was stolen by ||KING CRIMSON||

>>16266706

Sorry buddy, king crimson can't be beaten, it's invincible

>>16266684

This had a smoking man project bluebook men in black feel

10/10

>people STILL rely on and regularly use Google services

>bugmen will SERIOUSLY buy Google spyware in a box for no reason other than the fear of missing out

>>16266705

>until someone gets it right enough

"enough" is the key word there, and the simple fact is that technical limitations are not just going to go away because they tweak some shit on their end. I mean, think about ausfags for a minute, how shitty their internet is. To switch to a design like this, you're effectively cutting off an entire nations worth of revenue stream because the infrastructure just doesnt exist well enough to actually support the service at the speeds it requires

Then you have to consider that, even in most of the US, its not much better. So again, cutting off shit loads of customers. There comes a point where reduced costs does not make up for lost revenue. Not to mention the fact that.. will the costs really go down in the first place? Considering the infrastructure required on their end to house all the game data, the users saves, to functionally process and run millions of games at the same time, and the bandwidth required to not just stream that visual and audio information to the user, but accept, process, and return a constant stream of command inputs from users on EVERY fucking game..

Just think about that last one for a second. Games like dark souls, WoW, even the cod games, theres always latency between users, and thats in an environment where the data being sent isnt input/command data, its just "results" data basically and making sense of it all… even those services tend to lag decently from time to time, and thats with a given server having a few thousand people on it. Now imagine every single game, even single player, requires the server to host the game, process the game, receive inputs from the user, process those inputs, respond to them,…. etc etc… all in the milisecond range for each thing? NOPE, not gonna happen given current tech or even tech within the next 20-30 years, and not with infrastructure as it is that wont even be improved in that time frame either

I'm sorry, but all this streaming shit is a non-starter. And thats JUST on the technical side. You're going to have users who cant connect, who have bad lag, who cant play anything besides games where response time is irrelevant and input commands are minimal, and then you still have to think about server downtime and maint, people fucking about and taking them down, and so on and so on.

Thats all BEFORE we get into the problems with the implications of the service itself (not owning the games, them spying, them being able to take them down or censor what gets allowed, or ban games based on the whims of some "parley with the CEO" femicunt, etc)… again, its just not going to happen in our life times

>people are really so retarded they aren't seeing this is just the spearhead of Jewgle expanding the fuck out of google fiber worldwide and achieving domination of the internet market

>>16266700

>200Mb/s connection

>8x the average US internet speed

>still worse than a PC that can only play the game at 30FPS

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA

I will say, it's the danger to game preservation that worries me the most about all of this. Never mind ROMs, how am I going to get the assets for running Oblivion in OpenMW from a streaming service?

>>16266771

It's just a word filter, try and use the archive.is link which only has the jumble of letters and numbers.

>>16266797

>More stupid fucking word filters

Why does Mark do this shit? It's not even funny, it just makes conversations confusing.

This will fail, I believe and hope. However, once high bandwidth is more mainstream there will be a niche for it, because the promise of playing in phones and tablets is a compelling one. That being said, for as long as rendering/encoding servers aren't everywhere worldwide and bandwidth is limited, there will still be demand for purchases. After that, who knows? Will there be enough people refusing streaming subscriptions and demanding offline purchases? The DRM-free sentiment has had a kick to it, which I never expected, so there's hope.

>>16266810

Yes well we're specifically talking about stands here, if we tried to list all araki forgot moments we'd be here until the next universe.

>>16266791

Same. I just keep thinking about what happens to a game exclusive to this service when the publisher decides it's not profitable. The obvious answer is that it's just gone forever. Anything exclusive to this shitheap will be lost to time the instant it's not making Fortnight tier money or Google decides to end support for the console when it inevitably flops.

>>16266817

I wouldnt know,I dropped jojo at stone ocean when jotaro got clapped and read a bit further and it just bored the shit out of me jolyne was a dumb roast with daddy issues. Im just waiting for the anime to come out

>>16266744

>I believe the technical problems will be sorted out sooner or later.

I can't speak for Kangaroo Land, but over here in Burger Land the "technical problem" is that the telcos get millions in government grants as long as their infrastructure needs upgrading, so all they have to do is keep embezzling and never actually do their job and they get perpetual gibs. Can't be fixed politically; every politician gets elected because megacorps fund his campaign. Can't "vote with your wallet"; the telcos have almost the entire country divided up between them into monopolies/duopolies. And they can't be sued because the legal system is a farce; megacorps with bottomless wallets can just appeal infinite times to drag a case out for years and bankrupt you with legal fees.

20 GB per hour is about 5 MB/s, right? I get 3 MB/s on a good day, and the only change I could see happening there would be if civil war broke out and connectivity dropped to 0 MB/s. Ouya 2.0 just plain wouldn't work in the US outside of the jew hives like San Francisco.

>>16266817

Not really, the only three I can think of off the top of my head are,

1. Star Finger Used here as a blanket term for all the stand powers that are used once and forgotten about, like Giorno's damage reflecting animals

2. "Plot holes", like Dio surviving Part One even though Erina takes the only coffin, the delinquent who saves Josuke in part four, etc.

3. the big one, Araki famously "forgetting" Part Two, with him completely forgetting about Caesar and only barely remembering characters other than Joseph. This was also the interview where he confirmed that Kars would never return to the story.

>>16266834

>Not just powering through so you can get to Steel Ball Run

You are missing out, i'll tell you that much. I don't think David will ever animate part seven, if they couldn't animate Killer Queen and King Crimson without fucking them up, how will they animate horses in motion?

>>16265508

Nah, nothing's gayer than galo, madden, cawadooky, asscreed, and some shitty guitar game.

>>16266852

>how will they animate horses in motion

Go rewatch the part 2 coliseum wham fight and recoil in terror at the CG

>>16266627

>Lets not lie just because we hate it (and with good reason). If there is one thing game streaming has going for it, it's convenience. Pay some small install monthly and have access to an enormous library of games that run on anything with a screen. That is the promise. And why someone realizes it, the casuals will jump on. And you know how the AAA likes pandering to the casuals… And the chain that we'll all be dragged down by starts to form.

You don't understand anon, game streaming is completely unviable with the internet infrastructure in most of the world.

>>16266852

>Dio surviving Part One even though Erina takes the only coffin,

Dio didn't want to sleep n the same coffin as that chinese zombie so he brought a second one, for hm. Stll put his name on it, because of his massive ego.

> the delinquent who saves Josuke in part four

Is going to be Josue from part :^) but seriously it can just be taken as some random event that happened in his life and inspired him to dress like the guy that saved him, it doesn't need to be Josue from the future saving his past self.

>>16265458

>20gb per hour

jesus fuck, how did they ever think this would work

this is laggy wifi controller + youtube stream as games service

Valve Link + Steam Any Where is superior, hell Windows Store actually lets you keep your games

i am not sure who is going pay for this

experience is worse than anything native, theres is no technology that will completely solve the input lag, regional bandwidth problems

>>16266859

>15 MB/s

You can't even stream on devices that only has WiFi then. You need Gigabit Ethernet for that.

this is 1080p, 30fps or else you will have problems

hell i wouldnt be surprised if youtubes 1080p is so bad its looks like 720p with compression

it cant be real 60fps because bandwidth requirements for that is ridiculous

them boasting about TFLOPS of their SERVER FARM GPU is UTTERLY MEANINGLESS

>>16266904

But the dumb goyim dont know that. They hear the industry buzz word (((terraflop))) and their soy dicks get floppy.

https://youtu.be/xPp0vZgN-F0

Doom eternal running on it

only good thing i guess is that they will fund studio that Jade Raymond set up, perhaps she can finally make what she always wanted

>>16265228

>streaming 8k at 120fps

These faggots can barely manage 1080 OR 60fps. there's no god damned way.

>>16266920

She's a woman, so whatever she wants to make is instantly worthless.

>>16266919

>>16266894

Data transfer speeds are measured in bits per second where as file size is measured in bytes.

>>16266880

How is buying an installer on a disc different to buying an installer online ?

You can even burn the files onto a dvd if that gets your dick hard, and have a 100% functional physical copy.

Also you ignore that you can find keys online significantly cheaper than a physical copy in some kike owned electronics market where you have to pay for every mongrel involved in getting the game into the store.

Besides, often the "piracy" option is just the gog installer reuploaded somewhere. How is a pirated gog installer different from a bought one ? Do the pirates pack extra content into the game ?

>>16266919

Should've typed Mbps then.

Anyway, 15 Mbps is approximately almost 2 MB/s.

Cheaper WiFi chips have trouble hitting (and steadily maintaining) that speed in practice.

I'm not even convinced 15 Mbps is enough. I stream from my gaming PC to my Rpi3 over ethernet, and there will be times where the quality of the encoded stream just drops when there's a lot going on. This is just playing DariusBurst CS at 720p 60fps.

>>16266953

>Data transfer speeds are measured in bits per second

Corporates like to write maximum theoritical transfer rate in Mbps because marketing can boast huge numbers. It doesn't matter whether you want to write it in Mbps or MB/s, as long as you write it correctly to avoid confusion.

>>16266965

It definitely looks better for marketing, but it's because bits are more precise. Data doesn't exactly transfer in multiples 8 bits (or 1 byte). For the average person it doesn't really matter, they'll read it however they want, but there is a technical reason for it. Sorry for off topic autism.

>>16266684

Underrated post. Would read a cyberpunk novel exploring this concept.

>>16267018

This is not a human.

>>16267018

Gassing these creatures is doing them a kindness.

>>16267049

>live long enough to see the cyberpunk future

>it's a worse-than-predicted dystopia with none of the cool technology described in the books

I hate this planet.

>>16267018

That idiot was fired for that. http://archive.is/YDaq6

>>16266827

As far as I know that's not how it worked with stuff like the Ouya or on live, any exclusive content from those dead platforms ended up getting ported to PC and Android. Anybody that makes a sizable investment in a tittle would likely want to take that elsewhere if the platform dies, the big danger is games getting locked behind this terrible platform and if it's a success the Next Generation does not supporting old games and that's how they died and got locked away forever. So we should actually hope that this thing flops or it could do way more damage to game history and preservation than almost anything before it

>>16266956

>Do the pirates pack extra content into the game ?

Pirates often improve games by cutting useless crap and compressing files so you get a much smaller download.

>>16267085

Good pirate groups will often have as much DLC as possible included with the download, along with cutting out performance killing bulshit like denuvo and compressing idiotic file sizes like 60 GB downloads into proper 10 GB or less downloads, that's another reason why steam is dumb. Decent Pirates will even give you options like selective downloads if you don't want the extra heft from languages you'll never use, sometimes over half of a games data just comes from extra languages and duplicate video files.

>>16267087

You can tell this turd was created by leftist subhumans that have never stepped outside Los Angeles or San Francisco and believe that the rest of the US is just like their shithole of a city.

They'll even act surprised when nobody buys this piece of shit because there's no internet infrastructure to support it.

>>16262879

> avoiding vendor lock-in, possibility of adapting/fixing software to suit needs of organization, avoiding corporate espionage

That's literally what going ">muh freedumbs" means, you megaretard.

>>16261114

Everyone hates the new shit coming out but somehow. Someone ban microtransactions.

Only finished products. We don't buy a vacuum so we can buy 10000 add one to keep it working.

I think you're all missing the point. How do we kill Google?

I hope the gaming industry dies. Before you know it we're not going to have a single fucking thing and our entire computer will be streamed.

Aaaaaaand… it's shit.

>>16267491

This looks like it would obsolete internet cafes which chink and gook communication companies would never allow. Japan would just find it redundant since a toaster can run any gatcha they'd like to play instead.

>>16267074

I miss when retards were fired for being openly insulting and hostile to customers.

>>16266615

It's really sad that niggercattle won't wake up to the blatant trampling of their rights and boycott (((digital distribution))) until a big storefront like steam, origin, or battle.net doesn't go out and takes their libraries of rented games out.