508486 No.16200895
OK, so all that shit line of games with convoluted plot building up to finally end the torment and all the yaoi bait… only for this asshole to be completely forgiven? what's this? Naruto?
aea693 No.16200948
I'm more surprised he wasn't totally holding back some bigger evil since that's to more common go to franchise extending asspull.
508486 No.16200963
>>16200948
Nomura was constantly pulling shit from his ass to make Xehanort be always one step ahead, I am more surprised his own defeat wasn't his plan all along.
ce50de No.16200970
b966d7 No.16200972
>>16200970
LIGHT
DARKNESS
LIGHT
DARKNESS
LIGHT
DARKNESS
LIGHT
DARKNESS
LIGHT
DARKNESS
ce50de No.16200978
>>16200972
ANSEM
USE THE DARKNESS
b966d7 No.16200981
ce50de No.16200984
a3465e No.16201011
2101b3 No.16201122
>>16200895
>Xehanort Forgiven?
His original 'master' plan is to have one world where 'dark' and 'light' were equal and also he planned on being the god of said world. His plan was flawed from the start but they did have the right idea to maintain balance of the forces in their world. Plus in the end everyone was brought back which is sappy but what do you expect from a Disney game?
>But Eraqus forgave him
No, they didn't actually and both of these idiots did some stupid shit. Xehanort was just too curious and ambitious and Eraqus was way too blinded by his ideals. In the end though Eraqus basically told Xehanort "Dude, we fucked up big time, it's time to finally put an end to it" and that was that. It's a stupid cop-out but it's telling the youth playing the game that not everything is black and white and that the line that divides good and evil is thin. Which is some basic moral lesson that Disney loves to put into their products and is essentially the whole focus of Kingdom Hearts 3. Hell, you start off as Sora being unsure about themselves and their actions in KH3. Then they both just left and left things in the hands of others, like Sora and the gang. There story is over now and the plot for KH4 is prob going be about some new force appearing that disrupts the balance.
2fd45b No.16201131
>>16200895
>forgiven
Except that didn't happen
e4c7b0 No.16201138
>Shonen story
>the big bad not eventually becoming a good guy
e4c7b0 No.16201143
Also they put bugs in Riku
366e78 No.16201151
>>16200895
Mickey and the Disney cast were the real villains
e4b913 No.16201200
>>16201138
This "I'm a good guy" shit is always forced and nonsensical, I don't get why other anons love it so much. There's nothing worse in a game than some evil murderfucker spending an entire game doing bad shit, then at the last hour he goes
<Wait, I was trying to actually accomplish something good with my otherwise random and nonsensical acts of genocide! Also, I had a bad day one time!
And anons sing praises about how complex and deep and heartbreaking the game is. Anons who are reading this will probably think I'm imagining this but now that I've told you about this you'll see it all the time.
aea693 No.16201210
>>16201200
I mostly see people praise the rival joining you than the flat out villain but yeah it's dumb.
e4c7b0 No.16201220
>>16201200
Dude it's fucking friendship boy's adventures with mickey.
Calm down faggot
aea693 No.16201225
>>16201220
You might wanna reread that post and realize it isn't about Kingdom Hearts specifically.
e4c7b0 No.16201232
>>16201225
My point essentially still stands, all shonen protags are friendship boys.
5c53f7 No.16201238
>>16200948
But there is a bigger evil supposedly based on the mobile game and Xigbar and that box at the end of 3.
aea693 No.16201239
>>16201232
This happens a lot more often than in shonenshit you know.
aea693 No.16201241
>>16201238
As far as I'm aware he had nothing to do with any of that though.
e4c7b0 No.16201249
>>16201239
Well I'm incredibly sorry for you in that case if it bothers you that much
aea693 No.16201254
>>16201249
You might want to head on back to cuckchan with this passive aggressive zero substance posting.
e4c7b0 No.16201263
>>16201254
Oh am I bothering you? I mean pardon me for pointing out something that's been a trend in games since even some of the 3rd gen rpgs, and earlier if you wanna look at manga, which is how it has majorly impacted video game writing.
0cf244 No.16201520
>>16201263
Please go back to where you came from, for the love of God. You stick out like a sore thumb.
000000 No.16201833
>>16200895
Yes. And yes, it is shit.
9a349e No.16201855
All I know is that you niggers lied to me. Sora dies (he doesn't) after sealing Xehanort (he just dies).
e4c7b0 No.16201897
>>16201520
I've probably been here longer than you faggot.
e4b913 No.16201915
>>16201220
Yeah, sorry. I just wanted to rant because I wasn't able to bring it up in another argument.
9a0b76 No.16201934
>>16201200
Imageboards will always be antisocial, so users will tend to be annoyed by good guys and sympathetic to bad guys, hence why this dumb twist strokes so many dicks around here. They can argue it's deep and complex, but it's really just rationalizing a set of feefees endemic to this place.
d2e035 No.16201961
It's annoying because Xehanort was presented as being motivated by obsessive curiosity in the prior games. Then he turns around and goes, "We must have balance and restore order and I'll be in charge!" Mother fucker you just wanted to know what'd go down if you got Kingdom Hearts open.
0dd57e No.16201964
>>16201855
this "sora dies" bullshit is just like the "squall dies at the end of disc 1 lol everything after is just a dream"
dude, hes sitting in the tree with kairi at the end, he rescued her and went back like he promised.
but you know kingdom hearts, if enough faggots repeat this meme, they'll write it in KH4 as canon to lead into the yozoraverse or whatever the fuck.
0dd57e No.16202677
>>16201961
why does every villain have to be thanos these days
37c127 No.16202740
They may have forgiven Spock, but I will never forgive this franchise for ending the trilogy by shoving Clown Shoes and their Final Fantasy Reject into TWEWY and the not so subtle threat of imminent game rape.
0dd57e No.16202937
3cc1f8 No.16203056
>>16202777
Nah, this mentality has been around on imageboards long before /pol/ even existed on 4chan. For example this poster >>16201934 pretty much describes Akagi posting to a fucking tee. Majority of akagi posting was like this pic.
59bdd0 No.16203091
>>16201138
What shit shounen do you watch nigger?
59bdd0 No.16203107
>>16201200
Speak for yourself, I really love Simple evil villains that are cool enough to pull off being evil well.
508486 No.16203201
>>16203107
Or at least ones whose motivation may be one but they are long past the redemption point.
ff43e0 No.16203224
Nah, just disney bullshit
6ed3ed No.16203251
>>16202677
You absolute retard, Thanos wasn't originally like that. His original motive for killing half the universe was impressing Lady Death by showing he could. Only the new movie made it about "muh resources"
508486 No.16203289
>>16203251
So they added political agenda to Thanos with that? I don't think is even viable on a cosmic scale if the universe is always expanding.
828469 No.16203379
>>16203056
In Kenshiro's case the people he's killing are always bandits who literally rape, pillage, casually murder, etc. In other words, the biggest nigs who can't be bargained with because no one has anything to bargain with and they steal it anyway, no way to reason with them because they live a life of banditry and take what they want, and arguing on a moral standpoint is laughable with these people because survival comes first before all else.
In other words, frame it as fighting an African warlord, who leads a cult of personality, who isn't interesting in changing things for the better, doesn't know how to farm, create infrastructure, or anything else, so he instead murders, rapes and kills his way across Africa.
So you murder that nig. There was a story called Fist of Blue Sky where Kenshiro's uncle or some shit is in modern day Japan before the blast, and the morality and conditions are ripe for negotiation, but he still kills because the people he's killing are 1980's Chinese Triad.
And the Triad are just a more sophisticated version of an African Warlord's group, who kill anyone they want, can't be reasoned with, and run violent crime like a thirsty man drinks water.
Ironically, the people who call others moralfags for killing these people are unreasonably empathetic to the point of fault. If someone does not share your morality of peace and tranquility and instead has a morality of selfishness and murder, you can't force it on them or really reason with them, they're too far gone. You can, however, kill them, to prevent them from making mistakes in the future.
If you want to understand Kenshiro and why he's moral in his actions, you need to understand how bad the 1980's were in Japan, and post Hiroshima Japan. It wasn't pretty, borderline 3rd world country, gangs rampant, kids getting recruited.
But in a true wasteland, only force has a real say when you're talking en masse, not the morality of peace, because that morality is a courtesy.
Take away all our comforts, all our courtesies, all our security, and only survival remains. And people kill to survive. The man next to you in the right living conditions can be someone different entirely.
If you give someone the opportunity to kill someone without consequences, The truth is that most wouldn't, but change the status of the man killed in their eyes, by divulging what he's done and what he does, or provide a sufficient reward for doing so that would change the person's social status, money class and so on, and a lot of people would pull the trigger.
aea693 No.16203418
>>16203379
> 1980's Chinese Triad.
30's actually, complete with terribly out of place whining about the shoah. God damn that series was a disappointment.
0dd57e No.16203423
>>16203289
i dont read retarded westshit comics. all i know about thanos is from the memes about him.
508486 No.16203434
>>16203423
Still, someone out there just thought resources in the universe was a good idea but never stopped to consider there are a shitton of unused resources in planets with no life and the idea that the universe is literally infinite which means you can't just have a shortage on them when you compare the theoretical ratio of deserted to inhabited planets plus asteroids and other chunks in there.
828469 No.16203467
>>16203423
Thanos is actually a way better character then in the movies or the current meme generation.
Essentially, his entire character is that he wants to fuck Death. Not the concept, but the skeleton lady that embodies death. Deadpool also wants to fuck Death.
So in order to fuck Death, he kills shitloads of people in order to impress her, but she's like "nah", so he gets the infinity gauntlet and kills like half the universe to impress her, but she's not really interested in sex so "nah"
Later, Deadpool gets killed and impresses Death, so Thanos curses Deadpool to be immortal, which really only helps Deadpool since he can now bone Mistress Death without consequences.
Thanos' gimmick is that he always wins but loses because he fucks up badly. He also gets cucked by Deadpool, multiple times.
But not really since Death wasn't really interested in Thanos and was mostly just friends, but hey
2aec65 No.16203488
>>16203418
That's because Blue Sky was written by the artist and not the original writer. Things always get bad when the artist takes over from the writer.
See:
One Punch Man
Watamote
654b38 No.16203505
>>16203467
>Marvel characters get cucked by Death.
The absolute state of Marvel even their biggest bad is a fucking soyboy.
828469 No.16203527
>>16203505
I mean he is a villain.
When your villain's a soyboy that you're not supposed to see as cool or whatever I think that's the classical way to write a villain.
The real problem is that they covered up Thanos' behavior by making him a dumb ass generic moral extremist instead of the fucking dork he really is.
DC introduced a transexual during the Monster Men crossover arc who talked about transexual deadnames (read fake names like Bob taking Sue as his new name) for 3 pages before actually getting back to the much more interesting Clayface hero arc, which they also botched and left by the wayside heavily.
e8a100 No.16203579
>>16203505
Is it really cucking without an established relationship? Is there another term for "Lost the love triangle", that doesn't imply a relationship?
654b38 No.16203586
>>16203579
Just wait till Thanos looks after his wife's boyfriend's son.
828469 No.16203604
>>16203586
If Deadpool actually makes a skeleton kid with Mistress Death he'd better be called Deaddeath or there will be riots
f77b82 No.16204673
Nomura should have stuck to drawing top tier waifus.
05d420 No.16204718
>>16203091
Well there's that one where every other villain ends up joining the protagonists, you may have heard of it.
809621 No.16204914
>>16204663
I'm kinda upset at Nomura's use of Kairi on general. She has more potential than Sora to cast holy nuclear bombs with her pure heart. She also has the power to restore Sora to life any time. And then they pull this shit with the ending which is so poorly put together you know KH4 and games between is going to retcon half the bullshit.
I want to play as Kairi. Her keyblade is critical based instead of strong strength, magic, or reach. Which means if Kairi does become payable then she has to fight like a girl relying more on strategy, magic, and finesse over brute force and speed. As a princess of heart Kairi can have a variety of light based magic like Holy Wateraga and Dispell. But also throw in some time spells like Haste, Stop, Slow, and Rewind. And also dimensional spells like Blink, Warp, Reflect, Magnet, and Banish. There's a ton of control options with time and space magic alone to out maneuver the enemy and trap them. Then you can nuke them with AoE spells before finishing off the ones you can't one shot with high crit keyblades. Kinda want Kairi to be blood relative to Ansem the wise, which is how she picked up time control magic easily.
That said I think as a princess of heart Kairi is doomed to be a plot device and never be playable because writer's meta. If Sora is suppose to be the Keyblade master of Waking. Kairi could become the Keyblade master of either Life or hopefully Time.
>>16202937
':^D
0dd57e No.16204963
>>16204914
JEWISH WOMAN GOOD
0dd57e No.16205036
>>16205014
>shillary
>white
7a3381 No.16211996
>>16203379
are you a moralfag ?
61cd1d No.16212293
Stopped playing after the first game
da0e84 No.16212752
>>16203434
>and the idea that the universe is literally infinite
Says who? I don't know about about how it works in the current Marvelverse, but the universe is finite, but infinitely expanding. The amount of stuff inside stays the same, which is why the (lack of) heat death of the universe is a thing.
9a349e No.16212919
I'm playing on Proud Mode. I'm halfway through the game and it's been an easy peasy button masher so far. Should I restart the game over and do the Lvl 1 Proud mode challenge? If so, how do I customize donald and goofy so they don't help me at all?
da0e84 No.16212951
>>16212919
Critical isn't unlocked until you beat the game once from what I hear. So if you really want to try and extract a challenge from the least challenging KH game so far, then rush through the game and start over on critical.
6a8431 No.16212966
>>16212951
Critical will be DLC this came from Nomura himself it isn't in the game yet
da0e84 No.16213057
>>16212966
>this came from Nomura himself
Source? All I've heard was that Final Mix would most likely be DLC this time around, and that was known long before the game came out. There have been games that came out with critical at base before.
66c247 No.16213076
>>16213057
>Source?
Play the fucking game yourself, you stupid pile of shit. Critical does not exist yet.
0e01bd No.16213096
WHERE IS THE LARXENE PORN EGGMAN?
YOU PROMISED THERE'D BE MORE
DON'T MAKE ME TOUCH PAHEAL AND DEVIANTART
ca2094 No.16213139
>>16213096
I know nothing about KH, but pic related.
e0e42c No.16213246
>>16203379
there is only one non-moralfag mc that does not kill anyone and makes them join his side
its naruto ya know it,naruto is jesus if jesus was real
be5748 No.16213284
>>16203056
Akaigi was great but that pic is retarded.
b175bd No.16213326
>>16200895
>expecting anything but shit from kingdom hearts
da0e84 No.16213351
>>16213076
>Play the fucking game yourself
No. It looks like shit. He said Nomura said there's no critical.
6a8431 No.16213420
>>16213351
https://www.google.com/amp/s/Kotamu.com (please use archive.is)m/tetsuya-nomura-talks-kingdom-hearts-iii-dlc-1832954491/amp
https://archive.is/BH8U2
>Initially, Critical Mode wasn’t in the original versions [of the games], but a mode added to the Final Mix versions. That’s why it’ll be sent out [in downloadable] form in the future
9be674 No.16213546
>>16213246
Naruto talked Pain into committing suicide to resurrect all the leaf ninja he killed.
Naruto is also a retard who thinks the man who killed his parents is, quote, "a pretty cool guy"
Naruto becomes 100% better when you think of Lee as the protagonist. Then it becomes a story of a man who works hard all his life, but can't overcome the fact that he has to contend with a trust fund baby idiot who's entire life is being carried by nepotism and having the gall to say its because of hard work. If we factor Boruto into the mix we have the added trials of being a single father.
66c247 No.16213554
>>16213351
You'd know that isn't true if you actually played the game yourself, you unimaginably stupid fuck.
66c247 No.16213561
>>16213554
Is true, rather. Your stupidity is contagious.
0580b7 No.16213565
>>16213546
t.plague of gripes or a dude that watched his video
seriusly tho obito was cool villan so naruto had a point
0adf98 No.16213573
>>16213565
People said that for years before your e-celeb faggot brought it up, you angry little man.
0580b7 No.16213597
>>16213573
>angry
back to reddit
3ee776 No.16213611
>>16213573
>this wording
>talking about Lee as a protagonist
Dude's literally a non-character that did kung fu, why would he be compelling, your eceleb is retarded
9be674 No.16213615
>>16213565
>No one ever thought "Hrm, maybe a series in which the main character goes from having "fate and destiny don't matter, hard work does" as his personal philosophy, to getting powerups left and right because of fate (son of the Fourth Hokage, wouldn't have learned Sage Mode, Rasengan, or even shadow clones if he wasn't) and destiny (Hurr, Reincarnation of the son of Ninja Jesus fated to do battle through out the ages) is a tad hypocritical before PlagueofGripes.
Kishimoto is a fucking hack and the manga should have ended after the Pain Arc like he originally wanted.
66c247 No.16213630
>>16213615
>this man is a hack
>but he had an idea of how to reasonably end his work
What's your actual point, fuckboy?
3ee776 No.16213636
>>16213615
>son of the Fourth Hokage
>having anything to do with Naruto learning sage mode, the rasengan, or shadow clones
Explain how finding a fucking scroll in a shed at all connects to his genetics
ce50de No.16213682
>>16213611
>Dude's literally a non-character that did kung fu
Rock Lee is the most compelling character in the series by far.
In an universe where everyone is born with potential to be a ninja, Lee was literally born with nothing. He trained his entire life while under constant scrutiny and mockery from virtually everyone excluding Guy due to having no natural jutsu of his own. What he didn't have in speshul snowflake ninja magic, he made up for in raw physical ability and raw human power. He trained to a point where he was able to open five of the Eight Gates, which is literally Kaioken on steroids that fucking kills the user, before he reached adult age. Even early on Lee beat Sasuke's ass to the ground in a fight that the latter cheated on, because Sasuke didn't yet know how to become OC donut coldsteel handwings then.
All he had were his fists and feet, and by the time he put that to use, he outclassed pretty much everyone. Even so, he had to nearly self-destruct when fighting Gaara - an opponent with so much plot shield that he didn't even have to move when fighting - just so he could graduate fucking ninja school. And he lost. Not only that, he broke his bones, suffered severe internal damage and put himself into a coma-like state while standing up in fighting poise by the end of the fight. And the little sand faggot just got spooked. That's it. Not even a bruise.
Rock Lee's story completely shatters Naruto's philosophy and message into dust. No matter how much hard work and effort you invest into something you're not naturally talented at, you will always lose to a person who actually has natural talent. Regardless of how much you suffer during your entire life and work hard to the point of nearly killing yourself over it, talent will always beat hard work. Frankly the series should've ended with Naruto realizing that. You know, the kid who's only got his strength because his dad gave him kyuubi on a silver platter and a forbidden clone jutsu scroll that he literally stole from someone else.
Rock Lee represents the underdog fighting tooth and nail to survive and succeed in a world of plot shielded superheroes. He's the average man pushing his human limit to a Greek tragic hero's degree, and that alone is better than anything else this trash fire of a series has ever shown.
66c247 No.16213685
>>16213682
The jews murdered JFK, bombed the USS Liberty, and bombed the Twin Towers, lmao.
f62a1c No.16213692
>>16213246
>naruto is jesus
>if jesus was real
>implying
25216f No.16213710
>>16213682
>You know, the kid who's only got his strength because his dad gave him kyuubi on a silver platter and a forbidden clone jutsu scroll that he literally stole from someone else.
Not to mention he always preached about hard work and how he was going to become kaing despite putting forth no effort what so ever. He even got top tier training from several masters only because he dad was the last kaing.
66c247 No.16213724
>>16213710
The jews murdered JFK, bombed the USS Liberty, and bombed the Twin Towers, lmao.
3ee776 No.16213727
>>16213682
>raw physical ability
>an izuna drop Sausage instantly learns how to do by seeing it
So basically he did kung fu because he didn't know how to use ninja magic, and got completely dismissed for a better, older version of him.
Besides these aspects of him, there's nothing. A character who did a cool move who had his dad do more for the plot than himself, and also actually complete the cool move.
What a compelling character.
66c247 No.16213728
>>16213727
The jews murdered JFK, bombed the USS Liberty, and bombed the Twin Towers, lmao.
25216f No.16213735
>>16213636
He allowed to learn and use the forbidden technique, that was forbidden, without so much as a mean look. IIRC he was the one who stole the scroll in the first place. He was taught the rest of the shit simply because of dad.
ce50de No.16213743
>>16213727
>So basically he did kung fu because he didn't know how to use ninja magic
He wasn't born with ninja magic, much like someone like you, except he had the grit to better himself and not be a faggot, unlike you. He carried the message of the story through, unlike the actual main characters.
If you can't understand his story, you're either a woman or cock smoker who enjoys coldsteel-tier characters. Take your pick, shortbus.
1f5a32 No.16213764
>>16213743
>He wasn't born with ninja magic
I guess its cool to forget that every other character trains too and is shit when they're starting out, but dont let that stop your gay lusting.
25216f No.16213778
>>>/v/16213764
> is shit when they're starting out
Even the shittiest of characters win with no effort.
1f5a32 No.16213816
>>16213778
So none of the other characters ever had any training, injuries or defeats in the episodes?
Maybe go actually watch the show and then come vomit some shit opinnions you copied from some faggot hipsters youtube video.
0580b7 No.16213846
>>16213743
>>16213682
plague of gripes created a gay Lee dick sucking fan club
what lad , cant belive a bald neckbeard such as him can brainwash people to this degree
ce50de No.16213863
>>16213846
I literally figured this shit out when the anime first aired you boogeymanning cockmongler. It's a 2-3 episode long arc that any kid could understand, unless they're missing a chromosome or two. Which you probably do anyways.
25216f No.16213877
>>>/v/16213816
>So none of the other characters ever had any training, injuries or defeats in the episodes?
Never said that, gay lord.
0c29b1 No.16213988
>>16213877
>>16213816
>What was talk-no-jutsu
Naruto was notorious for there being no real consequences for the protagonists and it started really early. I'd even say Zabuza was the last time there was any real tension in the story. The fight with Kimimaro is when protagonists would "sacrifice themselves" and then get revived with no consequences a short time later. It culminated in the shitshow that was Pain. This guy's whole purpose is to get revenge and he succeeds in killing and destroying most of the hidden leaf. Naruto talks him into reviving everyone and the village gets fixed. Naruto, as a whole, was complete and utter shit. Characters like Guy and Lee were decent, but they were still stuck in a sea of turds.
25216f No.16214003
>>16213988
>The fight with Kimimaro is when protagonists would "sacrifice themselves" and then get revived with no consequences a short time later. It culminated in the shitshow that was Pain.
I'm glad I didn't watch this much of that shit. I couldn't stand all the flashbacks to 5 minutes ago and other filler.
b5bc0b No.16214040
>>16203505
>Biggest bad
He's no Doom
7e433a No.16214136
>>16203091
Is that a trick question? All shounen is shit.
809621 No.16214147
Wake me when Sora winds up in Disney x Final Fantasy high school with Quistis as his home room teacher.