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お前には日本語は無理

>>16181912

あんたは嘘つきでしょ

>>16181898

>Alternate DJT Site that is currently being maintained:

>https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/index.html

I think we should use this as main site, don't you think?

Not sure if the other one is still being maintained, seeing as the links to the manga library is broken for weeks now.

>>16181898

Why don't you guys ever mention sentence mining? I never hear about i+1 or any other useful information. People like MattVsJapan are already fluent with this method. All you guys mention is meme shit. Good luck.

>>16189798

You're probably right, I don't see the other one getting much attention so that should probably be changed in the OP.

>>16190018

What exactly do you mean? Like pulling sentences from something specifically for studying them? There are sentence decks out there. I wouldn't consider anki and grammar/kanji study to be meme shit.

do you pay teachers for video sessions or how its called to exercise speaking part?

>>16181898

So I got about 400-500 kanji down and have been working on grammar. I'm using Kanji Damage and just revising every few days. In any case, here's what I wished had been made clearer when I started:

>you don't need to spend a lot of time to memorize the kana

>hiragana you'll see everywhere, and it'll eventually stick (and trying to remember when doing is better than memorizing beforehand)

>katakana is barely ever used when learning grammar or kanji, don't bother memorizing it when you're starting out, just know enough to realize that what you're looking at is katakana

>a large portion of the "common kanji" are useless to memorize from the start, with the Kanji Damage method just look for 4 and 5 stars kanji, plus all the radical and all the "base" kanji that are used as radicals

>don't learn too much kanji or grammar at once, mix them up

Basically, learn the radicals so that when you see a kanji you don't know, you can infer what the fuck it means through its radicals, or at least look it up. 胆 isn't important to know, but 旦 and 月 sure as fuck are. Fill in the gaps as you get a progressively better grasp on the language.

>>16190386

They like to shitpost about different Japanese learning oriented motivational(?) youtubers and the like on halfchan which is what he's doing. As such I strongly suggest simply disregarding him.

>>16190707

looks like こ to me

>>16190707

That's ko. You just gotta train yourself to not even notice the strokes that are inconsequential.

>>16181898

Question: what does △ mean in dictionary entries?

>>16190018

I've been doing that, and my answer to why you don't hear about it in these threads is because usually people doing this style of learning don't spend much time on English websites. Honestly I only come here when I have a question I can't find an answer to, and try to answer questions I'm sure about.

What do you want to know about sentence mining? How it's done?

>>16190748

What are you asking? Are you talking about the differences in how they're written or how they sound?

>>16190748

さ as in sauce

ざ as in blizzard

し as in she

ち as in cheese

じ and ぢ as in jeep. They are practically identical, though I'm sure someone will take umbrage with that.

す as in 'soup

つ as in pseudonym

ず as in zoo

づ sounds like つ but you make a /d/ sound at the beginning, so that it sounds like /dzu/

せ as in section

ぜ as in zephyr

そ as in sophistry

ぞ as in zodiac

>any webpage that has pronunciation?

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/hiragana

Click on the character and an audio file will play. Listen to the file to learn how to pronounce each character.

>>16190748

difference between sa and za is like between english p and b

its kinda the same, but one sounds soft, other sounds hard. best is to just go on youtube and hear all the pronunciation

>>16190450

You absolutely need to be speaking to natives if you can. An hour only costs like $10, I'd recommend doing it 1-4 times a week or else catfish some nippon girl and talk to her on the telephone

>>16190018

Nobody on djt gets to that point. These threads are a vain waste of time for noobs (like me)

>>16190851

>Click on the character and an audio file will play. Listen to the file to learn how to pronounce each character.

thanks for the link

>>16190873

thats bad to hear for me. I dont have any money to spare.

>>16190838

You should be able to find a legend for your particular dictionary somewhere. Symbols may differ between them so it's hard to say for sure. 見出し, 凡例 and 記号 are a couple different terms you could look for to lead you in the right direction.

https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/help/jn/09_04.html

https://www.weblio.jp/sanseido.jsp#2

>>16190674

I would disagree with the katakana part, since I actually see it used often when differentiating between on and kun readings for kanji. It is also used so much in the language and fairly easy to learn that it gives you a much better chance of understanding some writing sooner.

>>16190696

Ah, okay then.

>>16190851

>づ sounds like つ but you make a /d/ sound at the beginning, so that it sounds like /dzu/

づ and ず are exactly the same, same with じ and ぢ. づ and ぢ are only used where a preexisting つ or ち would need to be converted to a voiced sound due to some kind of grammar/conjugation/spelling rule. Otherwise ず and じ are always preferred. I don't think I've ever seen ぢ, this is the first time I've had to figure out how to type it.

Anon in another thread added the simple suggestion of mimicking things for speaking practice. I think it is helping in unexpected ways. I never realized how slow and retarded I was trying to speak the language by just memorizing it.

Thanks to that anon.

>>16190707

That's the Japanese equivalent of cursive, which I guess they don't even teach in US schools anymore so good fucking luck.

>>16191057

No. It's the Japanese equivalent of a bad font, there are tons worse than that too. There IS a Japanese equivalent of cursive (which they ALSO don't teach in schools anymore) that's hard as shit to read and also applies to Kanji. I forget what it's called, I only ever saw it mentioned once in one of these threads.

>>16191067

The telltale sign of Japanese cursive is that the brush isn't lifted off of the paper, or in this case screen. That is a cursive font, or at very least a bad font modeled after it.

this homophone shit seems so ridiculous to me. I don't get how this language even works in real life without constant misunderstanding

>>16191166

All developed languages are like that, anonn

>>16191166

Butt yew arr using homophones rite now. They exist inn awl languages.

>>16191194

What is this shit about faggot telephones? What do you mean homoohones doesn't mean dialing queers? Who the fuck is supposed to understand this shitty language?

>>16190748

broadly speaking, the dakuten (the diacritic differentiating kana such as さ and ざ) marks a contrast of phonation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonation) for consonants with the same place and manner of articulation. It only effects the consonant, and doesn't change the vowel (at least, if you ignore allophony).

Specific to Standard Tokyo Japanese, that means a difference of voicing (or voice onset time). The plain (unmarked) kana are phonemically voiceless, and furthermore, the stops (p,t,k) are phonetically lightly aspirated. By contrast, the marked consonants are phonemically voiced, and otherwise phonetically plain, but tend to have more complex allophony than voiceless consonants.

The simplest way to say it is that they are pronounced the way the Romanization implies (i.e. as 'sa' and 'za'), but a more exact description in comparison with English is very in depth because the equivalent English system (fortis-lenis contrast instead of voiced-voiceless) is more complex (although I still recommend looking into it, because it may make your speech less clear for Japanese listeners for certain words).

Sense you have the question mark over the しじちぢ and すずつづ pairs, I assume you want further clarification about what's going on there. し and ち correspond to the syllables 'si' and 'ti', and they are pronounced 'shi' and 'chi' allophonically, or more percisely [ɕi] and [tɕi]. Notice that ち changed from a stop (sounds like [t]) to an affricate (sounds like 'ch'). By analogy, じ and ぢ correspond to 'zi' and 'di'. Previously, their allophones were [ʑi] and [dʑi] respectively (read that as a 'french' 'ji' and the English 'gee'). Later, [ʑi] changed to [dʑi] as well. Both this change and the previous change can be seen as being caused by the /i/. The same thing happened with すずつづ, except with /u/ instead of /i/. The common feature between /u/ and /i/ is their status as "high" or "open" vowels. More precisely, we can formulate this as

>coronal stops (t and d) in the presence of high vowels (i and u) become weakened to affricates

>voiced coronal obstruents (z and d) in the presence of high vowels become weakened or strengthened (as necessary) to affricates

>therefore z and d in the presence of i or u become indistinguishable (di > dʑi < ʑi < zi for /i/) (du > dzu < zu for /u/)

BTW, this change is standard, but not the universal outcome. If you want to read more about how these syllables work in other dialects, you can do that here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yotsugana

>>16191166

there are fewer homophones if you learn pitch accent, gaijin.

can somebody tell me*

retarded keyboard

>>16191552

It's not hard it just takes a lot of time and motivation.

>>16191552

Learn the compound parts of the kanji, If you don't want to talk you can get by by using jisho.org, looking up and writing down every kanji in a note.

That's what I do for Manga and reading a single chapter of Golden Kamui took me around 6 hours because for every new kanji I also write down a few other words with both readings.

>>16191552

>look beast

you will NEVER learn japanese

>>16191552

>look beast

NIGGER

Aside from the jewish plants in the japanese government, does anyone know if the average jap is for/against the country hosting the Olympics? Will this be the downfall of the nips considering theyre already way over budget and we are about to enter into a new recession?

I've thought about learning Japanese just to bypass the soywall erected by localizers, but the writing system intimidates me too much. I'm fine with learning new grammar and vocabulary. I've always enjoyed studying languages but I don't want to study Japanese for the same reason that I wouldn't study Russian. That and the writing system for slant eye tongues is even more challenging that cyrillic. Is it really all worth it? I liked to play the New Leaf in French because it seemed more cute that way but I don't really know if the baguette speak versions have more integrity than the English translations.

>>16191956

It is absolutely worth it.

>>16192014

>alexa meme

Holy fuck just get out.

>>16191534

>busted my balls

>>16192014

come on dude. I don't have anything against you but at least try to fit in. lurk more.

>>16191956

The kana are very easy, you should have hiragana memorized in a single weekend. Kanji are also far easier than vocab/grammar and more consistent to look up too. If you can learn an actual foreign language rather than simply "studying" one (and not learning it), you'll probably do fine.

>>16190997

While it's true that it's extremely beneficial to talk to natives, it's absolutely not necessary. I learned English simply by consuming media, and when I went to the US for the first time, everybody understood me, with me doing slight adjustments to pronunciations here and there, without even being prompted for it, simply by osmosis.

If you can get access to natives for free somehow, by all means go for it, but don't feel like you need to pay people to talk to you. That's just stupid.

>>16193565

The German people don't give a shit about their own Volk, do not learn this language. They are on the same downward spiral that Sweden is, there is no reason to cling to a people that thinks loving your own race/nation is sin.

Anyone tell me what this means:

ふたばナリッジ

Its an app name for browsing futaba, but i dont get the part after futaba. Is it knowledge?

>>16193565

I think JP, russian, and mandarin are really the only languages worth learning atm.

huge cultural influence and potential $$$ for the skill

>>16191956

cyrillic is really easy tho, what's more intimidating about russian is all the autist grammar rules

>>16193559

> I learned English simply by consuming media, and when I went to the US for the first time, everybody understood me, with me doing slight adjustments to pronunciations here and there, without even being prompted for it, simply by osmosis.

I'm same but I had school lessons to talk to someone. And I don't really feel I can say I learned language, I simply learned most common phrases and words and while there is a lot of them I cant explain grammar rules.

>>16194196

>that water

I remember some flooding incident in Japan with a bunch of pictures of flooded subways and whatnot. And bugmen were saying the pictures were propaganda because it's impossible for water to be that clean.

>>16193565

>be german

>learn german language

>go to germany

>get shot by towelhead

>>16191956

Cyrillic is literally learnable in 1 hour. If that's challenging for you, don't even bother trying with Japanese.

>>16196661

fuck off Xi. After I learn Japanese and German I'm going to learn Cantonese and then help Britain reclaim Hong Kong just to spite you.

Is the kana and katakana mixed in sentences? I thought its always one or the other.

>>16198189

Yes, both sets of kana have different uses and can be found in the same sentences.

>>16196724

>German

Warum?

>>16198189

It can be mixed even in a single word (like 消しゴム, which has kanji, hiragana and katana)

Is there anyone who tried any of the readers out there?

I read through the Japanese Graded Readers by ask publishing (well, the parts that I could find online). If I could decipher the explanation correctly, level 4 should be somewhere between N3-N2. I also tried the texts from chokochoko library, but their N3 texts are at least two orders of magnitude more difficult than the graded readers. (Actually, if I would sort them by increasing difficulty, it would be N4 N5 N3. N5 texts are a bitch, since they don't use furigana and write every word that's not possible to write with that 50 or something kanji required for N5 in hiragana, so you end up with a fucking kana soup. And also shitloads of old fairy tales filled with mythical creatures and whatever, where you have to look up every second word. N4 is way closer to everyday japanese. I've tried the N3 texts twice, give up pretty fast both times. Start with a text about cuneiform writing then a text filled with vegetables you didn't even know existed. I guess you need a PhD in physic, biology, economy, psychology and few other at the same time to understand N1 texts.

So after this wall of text, my real question is which is right? Are the graded readers way too easy, or is the author of chokochoko library a sadist beast who thinks reading texts even native japanese people struggle to understand is a good idea?

Also looked at R.A. Miller's reader from OP, start from these characters are called hiragana, 50 pages later, unedited excerpts from literal works in old kana orthography, because why not. I didn't looked at this book further than that, but I guess the learning curve here is steeper that trying to learn linux and touch typing and dvorak keyboard and vi at the same time for a person who only used windows before.

>>16198206

Mein Großvater ist von Österreich und die germanische Länder sind die reichste europäische Länder. Auch spreche ich Spanisch und möchte nicht Französisch lehren.

>>16199913

Ni no Kuni had a DS version?

>>16200644

DS version was the original version. Used to see anons back with the PS3 one came over arguing the DS one was better, though I'm not personally sure of the validity of that myself. Might also be of worth to note it got an English fan-translation patch recently. Still, being that it seems a game aimed at kids, the JP rom could still have merit as practice material, assuming it uses a level of runes fitting the CERO rating. Just a thought.

I am thinking of getting a JLPT 2 certificate. I know about 1300 kanji (started by memorizing elementary school kanji 1006 and worked the 300+ or so from vidya), my grasp of the grammar is great too. I am just not sure if my kanji is sufficient. Do I need to memorize more jouyou kanji?

>>16199913

Currently playing Atelier Rorona.

>difficulty

I might not be qualified to judge this very well, as I haven't attempted to read much else or anything based on a "graded" scale. However in my opinion the dialog is fairly easy to comprehend most of the time., especially any dialog that involves the main character. Sometimes conversations between "adults" can be a bit more complicated.

>Gameplay to text ratio

About as much Text as you can get without losing the "video game" aspect. It's broken up fairly nicely, but if you spend two hours playing you'll almost definitely spend at least an hour of that translating. Atelier games are often referred to as "1 part VN, 1 part JRPG, and 1 part crafting sim".

>reading assistance

Kanjitomo works pretty well for dialog. No furigana, but the dialog is fully voiced and you can even scroll back lines and replay voices, so if you wanted you could effectively use the voiceacting as a replacement. Kanjitomo does not work nearly as well for headings, especially for things like item names in the crafting interface.

>>16201813

Thx anon, I'll save your comment into my google doc for now, just need a few more games before I create it.

>>16201544

There are sample questions and complete tests on the JLPT page.

From what I've seen it looks like the vocabulary part is almost never the issue, it's the grammar and especially the listening part that fucks most people up.

>>16201946

>>16201813

Couple other points: the only text so far that auto advances is the opening cutscene and the notifications that appear on the top of the screen. If you really want to translate the opening you can just compile it in a bunch of screenshots, but I'd recommend skipping it and just switching to English for that, there's more than enough dialog and shit right after (it took me over a week to get to real gameplay, but this is basically the first game I've played in japanese). The notifications you'll probably just have to live with, most of them are just things like "a new tutorial was added to the library" or "a plant in your garden has matured".

>>16199913

Although I do think some games can be good for beginners, who are typically the ones asking for recommendations, usually the first thing I would think of to recommend them would be manga. I have on a few occasions recommended different eroge as well as a couple regular games, but usually not met with much response either way.

>>16199913

I'll fill in the few I've finished before.

Lufia 2

>difficulty

<4/10: Grammar is simple with a few uncommon words.

Has your basic manga/anime/etc… trope of people speaking with quasi-dialects. (～じゃ) means they're old, (～っす) means they're usually working class. That sort of thing. Other than that, grammatically it isn't difficult, and characters don't go too far into dialect or anything. There's a few archaic words for flavour, but they're not too often.

>gameplay to text ratio

<Mostly text. Though 95% of that is in towns.

It's a JRPG, so lots of text. But once you're out on the field/in dungeons it's much less. So it's easy to divide your time between slowly adding to your SRS of choice during story sections in town; and actually getting to play the game once you get out of town.

>reading assistance

<None.

No furigana. Didn't try a text-hooker; but the font is very clear, so it's not hard to look up kanji in a dictionary.

Dragon Quest 1 (SNES)

>difficulty

<5/10: Very short. A few archaic words, but simple grammar. Except for the King.

Same as above. Common quasi-dialect tropes to indicate age/class/sex/etc… The King, however. He sounds like an old man from West Japan waxing poetic sometimes.

>gameplay to text ratio

<Mostly text.

It's a JRPG. Also the battle animations are very very simple. So you'll be relying on having to read the battle log to know what's going on at all times.

>reading assistance

<None.

No furigana. But like above the font is quite clear so it shouldn't be too hard to look things up.

Super Mario Odyssey

>difficulty

<3/10: It's designed to be readable for kids.

Grammar and vocab are generally quite simple. One issue is moon names and cutscenes with Bowser advance the text quite fast. But usually it's nothing too vital. All the conversations and stuff you can take your time with.

>gameplay to text ratio

<Mostly gameplay.

There's a couple sections where you gotta stop and read the conversations to find out what to do. But it's usually only like 3-4 textboxes.

>reading assistance

<Furigana everywhere.

There's furigana on everything. But being on switch, you'll have to whack new words into jisho yourself.

>>16191057

really? fuck. i never used it, but i remember thinking it was fun to learn

>>16206712

You can't really take your time on the test. I did and I ran out of time near the end.

Also you obviously can't rewind the audio in the listening part on the actual test, it only plays once.

>>16206831

>You can't really take your time on the test.

> it only plays once.

Well, fug. Time to grind dem kanji.

>>16205995

I've done some QC for people who think it's a good way to study, and as such don't think people should use it as a study method. Not to mention it not being a good method to begin with as you said. It's not like you have to be fluent before you ever pick it up, but there's too many that churn out shit translations with errors every other sentence. No better than some of the shitty "professional" translators we all hate when you can't even maintain a moderately consistent level of accuracy or properly convey the author's intent, I think.

How does one best study grammar? A deck or Tae Kim and Genki? I find myself stalling due to there being no clear cut lesson plan.

>>16208193

Rinnosuke is male and the fortune teller was male, too.

>>16207989

Some people like grammar guides (Tae Kim, Japanese the Manga Way, etc.), some people use anki decks, some people use the Dictionary of Japanese Grammar, some people use videos, some people use textbooks. I've used all these methods and think a straight grammar guide would be the best starting point. That should at least give you some general idea of how to read basic sentences without getting too deep. From there you can refine what you've learned with other sources and reading, as well as get deeper into stuff the first guide didn't cover.

>>16207989

One best studies grammar with multiple sources and a lot of practice. Personally, I say start with Genki and follow what it says to learn in that order, but check the actual texts of the lessons against other sources (Tae Kim is usually better but he has some steaming hot takes, too), and then after you've done all the exercises for that at the back of the chapter, consider doing the workbook and finding more exercises online if you aren't comfortable with the topic yet.

>>16207989

>>16209765

I always found textbooks like Genki helped me absorb grammar the best. Namely the exercises in each chapter.

If you want something that continues on from Genki, then "An Integrate Approach to Intermediate Japanese" is a decent book. I used that after Genki and it had a lot of good exercises in the separate workbook to help ingrain grammar.

>>16191534

Gibs me dat transcript, yo

>>16209801

>>16209765

>>16209806

Good thing Genki's downloadable here, though I think the print editions got updated a ways. I don't see "Integrated Approach to Intermediate Japanese", however. Finally, I trust there's no shame in using OCR readers and text hookers if I'm stuck? Kinda wanna get good enough to wean myself off of them lest I become overly reliant by which case, why am I bothering at all.

>>16209969

I used the Genki first editions from one of the threads years ago (like 4 years ago), and had no issue. The only thing I know updated in 2nd edition is they changed 専門 to 専攻 and they got rid of Mary smoking. But I don't think they changed anything major.

>Finally, I trust there's no shame in using OCR readers and text hookers if I'm stuck?

Personally, I'd say try and get good at being able to identify and look up kanji you don't know by radicals or something instead of having a machine automatically tell you what it is. It helps for situations where you don't have a reader, and also it'll probably help with your retention of new kanji/words. But that's all personal experience, I can't give you any objective answer as to right/wrong.

How do I find torrents with Japanese subs? Can't find any on nyaa, and I now noticed that bakabt bit the bullet a while ago

>>16211216

Bakabt is alive and way, the same cancer as always. If you want Japanese subtitles perhaps you should start form reading the fucking OP.

>>16207989

Minna no Nihongo 1 and 2. Then you can move to other books. There are a lot of naysayers in these threads about it, but it is actually a proper Japanese made student book, fully in Japanese. It has many extra materials for practice, including the only book in English that explains grammar and new words.

俺、アンキをするのがとても悔しいでも、　フラッシュカードは効力がおおきですね

>>16211368

>Minna no Nihongo

2nded, esp if you can get your hands on the hilarious Mike Miller videos that go with it.

>>16209990

>they got rid of Mary smoking.

That wasn't a shop?

>I can't give you any objective answer as to right/wrong.

A major gripe of mine, this. I'm too used to learning via classrooms but I hear Japanese lessons in collages are crapshoots considering the tuition.

>>16211368

>>16211395

I'm guessing that 1GB Mega link has it? Not in the pastebin. Anyways, I attempted the grammar deck I've been holding onto and I already found an error. Maybe. Big maybe.

>宮本さんの奥様はとてもお奇麗だ。

>Mrs. Miyamoto is very pretty.

Shouldn't that be

<Miyamoto's wife is very pretty.

Or is the の particle used for more then possessives?

>>16211475

Well it can have different usages, but you are right.

No idea what 1GB link you are talking about, but here is a link with it and many other books.

>#F!J1YUTaCZ!kM

>dCf-ElxrFC12KUJzXZFg

>>16211475

without context your translation is right, but it could also be taken to mean "the wife Miyamoto is very pretty". But I don't think that sounds good I either language and it would require a lot of context you force that interpretation.

>>16211475

and to answer your question more overtly, yes, の marks the genitive case, the uses of which are as broad or broader than it's equivalents in European languages

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genitive_case#Functions_of_the_genitive_case

>>16211681

I just don't want my translation/comprehension to reach (((localization))) tier. The example sentences I somewhat get right but the deck's translation's wording are often different from what I think up of. Dunno how to feel about that.

>>16211681

That would be more like 「宮本の奥様さん」as "Mrs. Miyamoto." Though literally would still mean "Miyamoto's wife" as a way to address her even when talking to her.

>>16211790

The thing with translation is that the languages aren't mirrored 1:1 with one another. You can phrase a translation numerous ways and it can still be perfectly valid. There's also some cases where you just can't really express what's being said in one language naturally in the other, such as the お before 綺麗. Actually, perhaps it was because the sentence uses that respectful お that they chose to more polite sounding Mrs. for the translation to exemplify it. It's not a literal translation but maybe they felt it got the politeness across for the main point they're teaching. Your sentence is undoubtedly better with regard to the の奥様 but it's not what their focus was on. A good grammar resource will give you proper explanations not simply give you examples and the DoJG books are a good resource. If the deck only has the example sentences then you're missing out.

>>16211475

>grammar deck

Why? Use Anki for vocab, and just read for grammar. A grammar deck is just going to get you into the very bad habit of trying to find an English equivalent to everything.

>learning a complex language useless outside of anime and video games

for what purpose

>>16212772

for self pleasure

>>16212772

>the ability to talk with someone a century older than you isn't useful or interesting

>the only media worth consuming from Japan are Anime and Video Games but there's not enough to warrant learning the language

Are you the blackpill torfaggot who modified his script slightly?

>>16212772

> the third largest GDP in the world

> the fourth largest GDP (PPP) in the world

> giant electronics exporter

> full of giant tech companies

> Gigantic and growing exporter of cultural goods

>>16209870

I thought nobody would ask for it:

確かに生理前の時に

がさつな男を見ると

無性にタマを潰して

やりたくなるわよね。

まあ私の場合だと

タマを潰す事に楽しみは

見出せないけど。

私も同じような感じかしら。

普段周りに男はいないけど

たまに不躾な男を見ると

思わずすり潰したくなるわ。

さつきまでおんなに不遜な

振る舞いをしていたくせに

情姿で崩れ落る

ギャップが可笑しくって…

不思議ですよねー！

あんな無性にタマを

潰したくなるの！

あの期間中にセクハラ

されたりすると

我慢するの大変ですもん

たまーに頭にきて

蹴り上げちゃいます！

一応は潰さないように

タマはすご潰れますからね

でも我慢して潰さないとなると

発散しきれなくないですか？

やはり小気味よい破裂音とともに

ダチャッと潰れる感触があると

スッキリ感が違いますよねぇ

So sensei isnt only used for teacher? saw it being used for doctor in something.

also anyone seriously considering blue collar work in japan with their new immigration laws?

>>16212922

I thought about it, but I can't learn Japanese. If I could though, the way I see it, if they're going to go down the foolish road of allowing mass immigration, it's better for it to be someone like me than a bunch of niggers and sand people who will raise crime and disrupt their society.

>>16212922

Yeah, sensei can be used for doctors and for other people who have considerable knowledge/expertise.

>blue collar work

No way. Plus the way they think about work, it's not for white people. However, if many good for nothing sandniggers go there, that might change.

>>16213059

I think they might bring in a bunch flips and vietnamese. Maybe also some malaysians which could be very bad.

>>16212664

>>16212633

The deck in question has notes. They certainly seem ripped from DoJG and by extension, that itazuraneko page in the OP.

>>16212922

Sensei's used for many people of high standing. Teachers, doctors, members of the Diet, etc.

>also anyone seriously considering blue collar work in japan with their new immigration laws?

The vast majority of the blue collar workers coming in will be from China, Vietnam, Philippines, etc. They'll be paid shit wages and worked stupidly long hours, then sent home when their visa's up. In fact I think the new category only lasts 5 years max. They already do it now illegally. Usually they come over on a student or tourist visa and work in secret. That's why anyone from those countries has a really hard time getting more than 1 year when they renew their visas, or even getting a spousal visa. Because so many come and do fake marriages and the such so they can work. Last time I renewed I got 3 years, but all the Filipinos in my city got 1; even though they were working the same job.

If you really want to come to Japan you'd be seriously better off coming as an ALT or Eikaiwa teacher under the instructor or humanities work visas, respectively. The pay is significantly higher; you'll be treated a lot better than those blue collar workers; and it's a foot in the door from which you can learn moon, expand your options, and possibly even transfer to a different kind of visa doing different work that pays more.

One caveat is you need a bachelor's degree or higher from uni.

>>16212903

I just had a quick glance, but are they talking about getting mad when they're having PMS and venting by crushing men's balls? Or is there some colloquialism for タマを潰す I'm missing?

>>16213302

look up "space jin tamakeri"

>>16211358

>link exists but is buried in an obscure location

Yeah ok.

my brain keeps wiring nanika/dokoka etc. as questions instead of some~ it's fucking annoying. Also is it possible for them to just be wh questions if they stand alone? For example: nanika shiranai (embedded question) = I don't know what (rather than I don't know something)?

>>16213275

>ALT or Eikaiwa teacher

>being an english teacher

Is this really all what a baka gaijin can do in nipland? I guess I also need to be a native speaker for that

>>16214655

Pretty much. Once you're in the country and especially if you know a high level of Japanese, your options open up. Also if you have a spousal visa you can work wherever. Every other visa you need to tell immigration where you work on a long, annoying form. Spousal they don't give a fuck, so long as you pay your taxes; like a Japanese citizen.

If you wanna work, your other alternatives are coming in as either:

> spouse/child of Japanese citizen

> entertainment

Think this covers modelling, too.

> skilled worker

Like if you're a fucking engineer or something. It's very specific and you'd likely need a masters/PhD in something and someone looking to hire you for that.

> student

Can only work up to certain amount of hours and immigration is very strict on granting them now as lots of people come here as a student and work illegally.

Basically 95% of the gaijins here I've met who actually live here, all do English teaching or came here doing English teaching before finding a better job. Also most companies don't care about native English so long as you can demonstrate a high level of it (I think like 12 years of education in it or something to that effect). I've known many here who are from India, Malaysia, Philippines, France, etc. They all got jobs teaching English. If you're close enough to white everyone will assume you speak it, anyway. You're from 外国 after all.

Also depending on your native language there are the rare schools that actually teach that with native teachers. Mainly in the big cities because of population and demand. I've met two guys here over the years who got jobs teaching French.

>>16214692

Good thing I'm not planning on moving anywhere. Being at one of the better places in Europe is good enough for me. For the time being…

>fucking engineer or something

I have an MSc of Computer Science Engineer from my local joke of an university. But I can't even stand the mostly relaxed working conditions I have here, so that's one more reason to not go anywhere.

>>16212922

Dunno why anyone would want to work in Japan. They have the most backwards work culture ever.

>>16214913

this. if you're learning Japanese for business reasons it should be to market yourself to western firms that do business in Japan or work directly with Japanese companies, not to try and get a job directly under a Japanese company.

>>16224493

Like 30 mins, definitely no more than an hour.

>>16224493

How many new cards are you seeing a day?

>>16224536

20

>>16224541

Maybe try reducing it to 5-10 until you have some better grasp of the material and don't need to spend hours reviewing. Hours of anki a day doesn't sound very normal or fun.

>>16224562

ADHD doesn't help. Is there a specific context I should be using "hard", "good", and "easy"? As in should I press "hard" if I remember the meaning but get the pronunciation wrong?

>>16224493

>the good old times when reviews take less than an hour

>>16224638

This is just how I do it;

>hard

I select hard on everything because I want to see cards as soon as possible. However, what I used to do was select hard on words to which I forgot the meaning. So, if you understand how to say it, but not what it means, choose hard. These days, I don't do that, and instead make sure I understand the word in its entirety.

>good

I hardly ever use this anymore, and that's because I want to see cards again as soon as possible, but you're supposed to select good when you know the word's meaning an pronunciation.

>easy

I pretty much reserve this for incredibly easy loanwords and shit like 時々 that I'll never forget.

>>16224713

>However, what I used to do was select hard on words to which I forgot the meaning.

That explains why my sessions are taking 2 hours. If I forget the meaning or pronunciation of a word I just hit again until I remember what it means, assuming I don't forget the next day.

>>16224724

No, your sessions are taking so long because you have too many new cards.

>>16224638

It's really up to you to decide how to grade yourself. Knowing the pronunciation (and meaning) of words is important so if I don't know it I would absolutely hit again. Sometimes if I mix words up but still feel like I knew it and just had a temporary brain fart, I'll choose hard. If it takes a bit of thought for it to come to me, I'll hit hard. If I mess up the pronunciation in a relatively minor way, such as forgetting rendaku, messing up the reading of one character, or something like that I'll hit hard. I'm not too strict on myself, I don't think.

I'm assuming when you said kanji earlier you meant words, but in the event that you are trying to brute force all the kanji before you actually do any language learning, I suggest not doing that and learning other stuff too. It should help you retain things better.

>>16213275

yeah one category is use and dump workers but they created one where whole family can stay in Japan for much longer

>>16225925

gibs mega link plz

>>16225925

>it's mostly romanized

So it's useless then.

>A Practical Guide to the Mastery of Japanese

>Not even written in Japanese

>>16226830

That's what I hated about Genki. A lot of it is in romaji, which is terrible for learning.

>>16226868 (repeating sequence)

Thank you kindly, anon.

>>16226830

>>16226831

>it's romanized

Disgusting, into the trash it goes, but maybe those Kanji books are worth taking a look at.

Give up.

>>16226831

genki ditches romanization entirely after 2 chapters. It's just there at the begging while you learn hiragana.

>>16227257

>genki ditches romanization entirely after 2 chapters. It's just there at the begging while you learn hiragana.

>already know hiragana

Bit of a relief, that.

Stupid question incoming but I tend to have a lot of those and could stand to ask more. Say I get 足し算 in Anki. Knowledge of similar words and kanji lead me to believe it means addition. In my head it sounds like たしざい. I turn the card over and it turns out my pronunciation was a kana off. It's actually たしざん but the word and context I got right. Does it still count as me being wrong?

>>16228230

>Does it still count as me being wrong?

Yeah, you got the pronunciation wrong.

>>16228274

Well fuck. The "Again" button it is then.

Is there a way to tell Anki to display the cards I am least familiar with first? It seems like they only come up at the very end, and I'm getting kind of tired by the time I get to them. I started going through the day's new words before reviewing, and I think my retention went up a lot after making that change. So I want to see how I will do if I continue dealing with hard cards while I can fully concentrate.

Does anyone print a version of Book of Five Rings with both English and Nipponese? I've got a copy of The Art of War like that (not that I can read Chinese).

why are my reviews on a deck I have in anki limited to 200 even though I've set it to 300? I've double-checked this a million times

>>16227190

Some days i feel like it. I really only started to play a few games i loved and now a year later all this studying is making me wonder why i even try. I barely play any VNs, i dont read manga, dont watch anime, have a very short list of jap games, and dont consume their media. I think it started from enjoying the challenge of understanding kanji but god damn its just not fun anymore shoving them in my head. Maybe its time to go to another language

>>16229561

Tools > Preferences > Show new cards after reviews

>>16227190

I feel the same way for a few minutes when I come across a difficult grammar point.

>>16227190

Joke's on you, I already have! Imagine one of the fools who aren't aware of their own limitations; what they can and can't do.

>>16228230

>Is there a difference between きょにゅう and ぎゅにゅう

yes, although both are nice.

>>16232066

Might be in the wrong thread. Or at least responded incorrectly.

>>16232058

Sounds like you are making excuses for yourself.

>>16229503

I'd like to check some out sometime too but I really don't know where to start whatsoever.

>>16232183

Here's a listing of a lot of PC-98 games. If you want any I can upload, since I have a big collection.

http://fullmotionvideo.don't use link shorteners/screen/!title.html

>>16235250

Dunno why this got caught by the filter.

http://fullmotionvideo.free[delete this].fr/screen/!title.html

>>16235250

I appreciate the gesture. Although I do want to find some games to try out, one of my main issues is that I don't want to go through a big list of games, many with no preview images, with no descriptions and have to put in a bunch of work just to find out if games might appeal to me beyond having nice art. Maybe someday I'll work up the will to put in the time and effort but I haven't got it in me for the time being.

>>16234982

>>16235250

>>16236430

This site isn't perfect, but the turbo-autist running it does separate games into different genres, and there are images for most of them. You can view the pages in English or Japanese.

https://refuge.tokyo/pc9801/en/Adventure_ABCD.html

>>16234982

VNDB can sort by platform https://vndb.org/v/all?q=&fil=plat-p98&rfil=&s=title&o=a

言語を習うのはこの動画が素晴らしいです

>>16243386

>video games translations

>being done faithfully

Is such a thing even possible?

>>16226868

Has anyone used these books and found them useful? I could add them to the OP.

>>16244811

>Is such a thing even possible?

ありえない

Where can I pirate Japanese games? I'm looking for a place to download VNs that run on Wandows.

>>16243386

Correct me if I'm wrong. Is this Soso girl wondering what her father found attractive about her mother (1), saying she's so childish people don't even saw her mother as a girl (2) and then finally wondering if her father was just a lolicon who could only fall in love with a really child-like woman? (3)

>>16248323

>Soso

That's ンン not ソソ

Mostly right except this

>saying she's so childish people don't even saw her mother as a girl

It's more like "It's a wonder you were able to see her as a woman (as in a sexual/romantic way) even though she's so childish."

>>16212772

I know Japanese, Russian and Mandarin. For what purpose? Me have big brain. To be fair, after learning Japanese, Mandarin wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.

>>16248340

I assumed it had to be Soso because who the hell names a character Nn. On that note, is the guy on the left supposed to be her dad then?

>>16248388

>is the guy on the left supposed to be her dad then?

Yeah.

>>16248394

Hah. Now his awkward face makes more sense.

>>16241153

what should I listen to while I do kanji learning? Can I just run japanese tv from the internet in the background on my shitty android tablet?

Though I excel at understanding, my writing/sentence building skills suck ass. So I decided to do some writing practice and I ended up going for essay form. Might be a bad idea, but I would like to autistically stick with it just for now. With an essay form I would have to use some more polite Japanese. Anything to be mindful of in general? I am doing some reading first, but though I should ask anyway.

I will post a short thesis-like part soonish. You can laugh at me and correct me. Not taking the text too serious. I am imagining it as if I was in junior high tops perhaps. My Japanese wouldn't be able to handle much more anyway.

While gleaning through Pixiv updates I found this line that I think I comprehended correctly, but this place being the closest thing I have to an editor I wanna run it by you guys

>すぐ終わるから待っててね

<Since he'll finish soon, wait.

Pixiv image id 73218484 for context.

>>16248784

I just cut audio from anime as I watch them and listen to those when I'm not listening to anything else.

>>16249825

Yeah that looks correct.

>若い時のようには元気がなくなった

Why does this not mean something like "(just)Like how I used to when I was young, lost my strength"

Since you ni doesn't affect genki

>>16249849

Also thanks for the advice, im going to try that now. Luckily with vlc I can just play videos as audio so thats a godsend

>>16248784

Silence.

>>16255254

That's wrong. It has two types of adjectives, one that is more like nouns, and one that is more like verbs, but neither are verbs.

>>16251026

That's not what it means.

It's more like "I no longer have energy like when I was young."

>>16255254

i-adjectives derive from some word, usually a noun, plus the adjectival copula 〜く during or before Old Japanese, which derived a new word from the noun and later changed to 〜い in the conclusive due to onbin sound changes. na-adjectives derive from the phrase "[noun]+に・ある" in OJ, which then was shortened to "[noun]+なる" and eventually "[noun]+な" in new Japanese.

>>16255268

>That's not what it means.

yes, why? I don't get it

>>16257095

Let's try and break it down

>若い時のようには元気がなくなった

若い時 = roughly, "the time of youth"

の = possessive, it modifies the previous fragment so that you get;

若い時の = Being youthful

よう = like, similar to

には = in regard to

So, the whole topic is

>若い時のようには

Which should mean something like, "(In regard to) a person who is just like a youth"

>元気がなくなった

元気 = energy

が = identifier/subject marker

なくなった = to be lost; missing; used up; to run out; consumed; reduced to zero; to not occur anymore; to disappear (past tense)

The whole clause is something like, "it's (my) energy that has disappeared"

You put it all together and you get

>若い時のようには元気がなくかった

and maybe you can translate it as, "In regard to being just like a youth, it is (my) energy that has disappeared", with the implication being that the speaker is not like "one who is young." At least, this is my interpretation of things, I always accept that possibility that I am absolutely wrong. A better English translation would be something like, "My body ain't what it used to be" if you want to go for an incredibly casual approach, or maybe something like, "I'm not as young as I used to be, so my energy levels have dropped over the years" if you want something more milquetoast or formal.

>>16257408

Finding that woman attractive is illegal. Anybody who has sex with her should be sent to prison for life. This is the only way to protect children.

>page 10

Is this normal?

What do という and から mean if they're at the beginning and end of a sentence respectively? The former in one of the Fire Emblem screencaps above threw me off in a big way.

>>16265451

というか is kinda like とにかく, it's just a way to change the topic or add onto the topic or whatever.

https://jisho.org/search/%E3%81%A8%E3%81%84%E3%81%86%E3%81%8B

>>16266100

Thank you. I could've typed that out and the OCR could've gotten it. I keep thinking that to be good at Japanese means never using machines. Why I hesitate to ask for help most of the time.

>>16229916

>>16266291

Is the first image from a program?

>>16266329

it's from anki

>>16181898

I know duolingo was mentioned as being bad, but for my purposes I learned the entire hiragana chart both through personal practice and through the "lingodeer" app. Its a lot more focused on asian languages and more useful i think. I got a little ways in but had to drop working on it (nursing school is a major time commitment and an uber bitch and a half, just didnt have time to do both sadly… I will pick it back up next fall though once I'm done, eventually plan on travel nursing to japan if I can and spend 6-12 months there)

Anyway, carry on boys. its not nearly as hard to learn the hiragana as you'd think, and frankly for the mildly autistic mind its actually a LOT more fluid and consistent than the english alphabet. Its all very neat and orderly. The only down side is also needing to learn katakana as well, and then eventually moving into kanji.

As for the spoken language itself and the overall grammar, I didnt find the starting points that hard, "I *subject marker saying that I am the subject* verb thing adjective etc." Its a little wonky at first, but once you get used to the ordering of sentences its rather easy to grasp, from there its just a matter of learning words just like you do in english to increase your vocabulary size.

I'm kind of retarded, is there any difference when using conditionals other than -temo for wh-words?

like

>nani ga attemo (no matter what is/happens)

>nani ga aru to (no matter what is/happens(?))

>>16267151

>no matter what is/happens

>no matter what was/happened

FTFY

>>16267156

ah. thanks

I finished reading 黒 and while I liked it, wtf happened at the end?

(spoiler alert)

I believe that her friends going to her place to help koko really happens, but the part where she went into her parents room and the doc and everyone else is waiting for her must've been a dream right?

Or was it a dream all along and she has been in the hospital for longer?

confused af

>>16270226

Isn't "Learn" the number of reviews for cards added that day? What the fuck, man?

>>16266138

>I keep thinking that to be good at Japanese means never using machines.

I would say that if you excel at using machines to study, it'll greatly improve your Japanese learning ability.

If you are good at looking up words and grammar points so it only takes a few seconds that'll improve your potential learning speed a lot.

I recommend using Japanese sites to look up grammar, since on English sites 5 people reply but only one knows what they are talking about.

>>16270226

You fucked up big time buddy, trust me I've been there.

1h reviews will sooner or later kill your motivation.

Is that core? I hope it's not.

Are you reading regularly?

Because reading 30min per day > grinding anki 1h.

Lower your new words until you reach a acceptable retention rate and use the time you gain from that to read.

It may sound cool to learn 100 new words a day, but if it doesn't work for you it's a waste of time.

>>16272045

I honestly have no idea how or where to look up grammar. Asking people is out of the question, that's only reserved for the absolute most mindbogglingly confusing things possible. If I'm 100% sure that I'll not only not figure it out, but still be fixated on it in a week, then I might consider asking a human being.

Aside from that, my whole process is basackwards and getting me nowhere. More often than not I end up typing shit into google translate. To my credit (I hope) I can usually figure out the basic meaning of a sentence even when google turns out garbage just by how it seems to be fitting together plus the context of the scene, but I'm still stumbling over fucking particles and I've been at this shit for a year now.

My anki reviews have gone to shit too. I really feel like I'm not remembering much of anything correctly. I can get the general idea, but it's never quite right. I gave up on doing new words or kanji in anki in January when I started seriously trying to read (with the above "limitation"), but I'm still constantly missing mature words.

On the plus side, I did manage to finish Atelier Rorona in under three months. I'm going back now in NG+ to try and 100% it because that's how I play those games. Unfortunately I feel like I'm "reading" the dialog more on memory than on translation, so I doubt this will do me much good until I get to new/missed content.

>>16271980

New cards, but it increases every time you fail it. I need a lot of repetitions to learn some of the words…

>>16272045

It's core6k. I decided to finish the remaining 2150 cards in a year, I'd have to do 6 new cards per day. Well, it looks like I'll have to forget about it.

Oh, about reading. I try to do that, but I finished all of the graded reader I could find, and anything more serious is just constant dictionary checking, i.e. not fun.

>>16272372

It's alright, but it has been more than 5.5 years, it's starting to get boring and utterly depressing. When will this beginning end?

>>16272379

When you start reading even though it's not fun.

>>16272362

> is just constant dictionary checking, i.e. not fun.

>not looking up new words to memorize along with what you've looked up

Maybe it's not for you?

>>16272410

Pretty sure that also involves constant lookups even if you know some of the words.

>>16272045

>I would say that if you excel at using machines to study, it'll greatly improve your Japanese learning ability.

Really? I keep thinking that using the likes of Google Translate and ITH is a gateway to overreliance on machine translations instead of actually learning to never use them. It's why I try to read stuff off of random pics from the boorus. As I kept saying before, trying to read something for more then a few minutes frustrates me more often then not due to assuming that I'm not supposed to look up new words until the Core deck shows me said words.

>Is that core? I hope it's not.

>Because reading 30min per day > grinding anki 1h.

So I need to bite the bullet and outright make a mining deck made up solely of words that I come across? That might work but I usually don't like to shake up the system I have going too much unless it indeed is doing more harm then good. As things stand now, my mainstays in the schedule are…

Core 2K/6K Optimized Japanese Vocabulary: 20 new cards per Monday~Wednesday~Friday, plus reviews (I have it set to reviews first)

Dictionary of Japanese Grammar Revised: 20 new cards per Tuesday~Thursday, plus reviews

Attempting to simply parse some random speech bubble whenever, uncommonly like in >>16249825 I actually get it right but I know I need to do better, choose something harder even if it means swallowing pride or whatever and using Kanjitomo or just plain asking here.

>>16272362

Are you checking every new word you encounter? I found the best approach is if you can understand like 80% of the words you just power through. In the grand scheme of things the few words you miss on the one or two pages you didn't quite get don't matter. What matters is you keep reading. You slowly pick it up over time.

If you're checking a dictionary every page it slows shit down massively. I read through Yotsuba on and off over a year without ever checking a dictionary. I can guarantee you by the time I was reading vol 14 I had no problem understanding a thing.

Back home in Sydney there was a "Japan Society" (think it had actual links with the tourism board or something). They had a reading night once a month or so. But the big rule on the reading night was if you see a word you don't know, move on. If you only understand 70% of the words, you've still absorbed 70% of an entire book.

>>16272490

That's a retarded approach. Plenty of words you'll see in the wild won't ever be in those decks.

>>16257408

>when her kids will look older than her

>>16272811

Yup. I have a Core 6k and a N1 vocab deck (3000+ words, though with some overlap with core) that I review on Anki, but I still often come across new words. You have to read a wide variety of material in order to git gud. Mix up your game/anime/manga genres.

>>16272834

For about a year, then she hits 40 and immediately looks like a grandma

>>16272811

That puts me at a quandry then. Either I abandon the Core deck and make my own (the old fashioned way since Rikaichamp doesn't have real time import) or use both. The latter sounds retarded but I likely won't run across every word (and variant of a word differentiated by a mere particle [それに and それで]) ever unless I branch out of my comfort genres and into something like news articles. Truth be told, I'm doing this to read (or at least comprehend) more lewd stuff that either won't get translated, won't leave Japan, or will get censored upon leaving Japan.

And to top it off, I JUST found out that the DoJG deck I'm using technically has a bunch of custom styles and formats to choose from, one of which might've helped me a great deal had I discovered it right from the start.

https://dojgdeck.neocities.org/

Apparently I was supposed to delete one of the tabs and replace the other with something to my liking. Core Random seems especially useful but I wonder if it's too late.

>>16272887

>That puts me at a quandry then. Either I abandon the Core deck and make my own (the old fashioned way since Rikaichamp doesn't have real time import) or use both.

By doing the Core deck, you should also be getting in some basic reading experience, because the deck has a large number of example sentences that you'll see on a regular basis. All you have to do is go into anki's settings and remove the English translation that appears below the example sentence, then read each sentence that comes along with each card. If you do 100 cards a day, then that translates into (more or less) 100 example sentences as well. I'm not saying you shouldn't read outside of anki, obviously that would be retarded. The point is that the Core deck is designed to try and impart upon you as much nuance as possible by giving you example sentences so you can see words in context, so this means you should have already acquired some rudimentary reading practice by virtue of reading the example sentences. Additionally, the core deck is not designed to be exhaustive, so of course one may find words outside of it, but that doesn't mean the deck is useless. Its goal is to give you a working vocabulary, and solidify it in your mind through constant repetition, not to be the ultimate be-all-end-all learning tool. There's nothing wrong with grinding anki. It does work, but maybe you should balance your time with other activities that also allow you to absorb the language. Anki is supposed to supplement your study, it shouldn't your primary mode of study.

I have been playing Hitman™ 2016 in Japanese; in the game there is a status subscreen where you can read a description of any given item that you acquire, often times they're amusing to read, so this makes reading fun. I find, in general, that playing games is a good way to put words into context. For the longest time, I kept confusing the pronunciations of 拾う and 払う, and playing Hitman helped me solidify that 拾う is "to pick up or acquire" because I associated the action of pressing the button prompt with the word itself. I just made it a point to say the correct pronunciation every time I encountered the word (which is a lot because in Hitman you have to use contextual prompts for everything and there are a lot of items to acquire).

>>16272456

To memorize a word, I have to add it to anki and grind it for a good month until I remember it. Stopping for a month at every unknown word doesn't seem too productive.

>>16272523

I'm fine if there are a few unknown words here and there, but as you enter the territory of multiple unknown words per sentence, it breaks apart. That's why I wanted to prioritize the core deck, to have at least a basic vocabulary, but it doesn't seem to work out as I intended it.

>>16272965

>All you have to do is go into anki's settings and remove the English translation that appears below the example sentence, then read each sentence that comes along with each card.

The sentences indeed help, but (and this is likely due to my being in too much of a rush to read) what I do is put my hand over the English sentence as soon as I "turn" the card so to speak and try to read the Japanese sentence based on the other words and grammar points I know. Assuming the translation at the bottom is professional, if my result somewhat matches it, I find myself on the right track. Of course if all of the words are unknown to me there's little point.

As for the games, very excellent point that I'm likely aware of already but don't follow up on due to how easily discouraged I get from the unfamiliar grammar and vocabulary but I'm basically repeating myself. Which sucks because I have a gigantic backlog of VNs and H-RPGs over the years. High time I change that.

>>16271945

Learn to use spoiler tags. I would say a dream part starts around when she enters her parent's room and that it's because her friends were there at that time to get help that she woke up in the doctor's place.

>>16272173

The Dictionary of Japanese Grammar book series is well suited to looking things up, having it's entries listed alphabetically. It's incorporated into the guide so you don't even have to bother with the books or pdfs if you don't want. Rather than put it into Google Translate, just put it into Google and look for proper explanations. Supplement your search with words like 意味 or 文法 if necessary. For both grammar words and vocabulary in general, try using a Japanese dictionary. Proper definitions for the word how they define it rather than a translation can both provide a better understanding and can benefit your memory. It wouldn't hurt to be a touch less apprehensive about asking for help.

Okay, time to try this again. Simple enough but no harm in second opinions.

>いいよもっとお尻上げる

Good. Raise up your butt more.

>。。。これでチーズが買えるのです

…With this I can buy cheese.

Sankaku Channel image/post ID 7605968.

>>16273074

Are you judging your success based on just anki reviews? How much are you able to understand outside of flashcards? Anki is a great tool, but it's artificial. Remembering words in the context of real sentences is much easier than recalling it in isolation, and more useful. Also the "core" decks have useful words, but they won't be useful for everything. There really isn't that much of a "core" vocabulary outside the real fundamental shit like この・こんな・これ・その他 and basic verbs like 食べる・使う and so on, and all the particles if you consider those "words". Different games/books/whatever use different words, so you'll see shit you don't know a lot, but repetition and exposure through shit you enjoy should help you absorb them.

When I read a Japanese sentence, do I convert it back to SVO structuring in my head? It feels annoying to read the Subject then Object and try to link the verb back within it where it makes sense. Is it just something you get used to and get better at?

>>16276043

You get used to it. I know it sounds weird, but try to read things more in Japanese and convert things to English less if you can. Especially when it comes to grammar you run into trouble when you try and shove that shit into the English mould.

>>16276060

Okay gotcha, cheers

>>16276050

It's obviously a story about a guy paying a little girl for sex so she can get groceries. Do you even read manga?

>>16276612

Just use Japanese hentai manga to fap, rather than reading these small snippets.

Anybody know a good Jisho android app I got a new phone and I guess the one I was using was removed from the store because I cannot find it.

>>16277033

If I wanted to do that I wouldn't bother with the language at all. So I take it my attempt was somewhat right due to the lack of corrections from anyone here?

>>16277117

If you recall its name just search for its .apk. Did the same when the Tae Kim app vanished off the face of the store for some reason.

>>16277254

>If I wanted to do that I wouldn't bother with the language at all.

Huh? I'm talking about for practice. A couple of random sentences is not enough.

>>16277254

Your translation looks fine to me. I would recommend just posting the picture every time so people don't have to go search for it themselves if you're wanting feedback.

>>16277290

Not wholly used to posting protocol due to being a lurker first and foremost. Figured porn dumps are reserved for nearly dead /gg/ threads.

>>16277286

Well aware of that. Steadily getting out of my shell and getting used to having to use machines for the time being. That pic is among the first I managed to read completely on my own.

>>16277254

I cannot find it's name it is just called jisho.

>>16277353

It's not really a dump if you're just posting a picture every so often. It's also relevant to the thread,

>>16275954

I'd judge success by "Here's this random japanese text, can you read it? Yes? Cool. No? You suck.", and I'm not here yet. If there's some baka gaijin compatible text, I might be able to figure out something, otherwise it's hopeless.

I'm not sure about this context thing, unless I see the same word in the same context thousands of times, I'll forget it. This means that I'll either only learn a handful of words, or I put every sentence I read to anki and hope it'll stick.

I'd argue about core's usefulness, it's not perfect, but it contains a decent selection of commonly used words. Unless you're reading something abstract or academical or stuff like that, it'll contain many words from it, and it matters whether you have to look up 10 words per sentence or per page.

>>16277698

>"Here's this random japanese text, can you read it? Yes? Cool. No? You suck."

Put it a lot better then I could, and in fewer words too. I'm the same way.

Is there a tool to extract (copyable) Japanese text from an image or PDF?

>>16279464

Your eyes?

>>16279464

I should clarify that I know about OCRs but as far as I know Kanjitomo doesn't have a way to automatically do an entire set of images, and online OCRs I've tried don't work at all for anything that isn't formatted like a word document (so they don't help with manga).

>>16279678

Trying to do something with the text before I read it to make reading it easier. Going through an entire scan and entering the text manually would probably take more time than having the text would save.

>>16279860

I've tried abby fine reader back then with mixed success, but it was on an LN and not a manga so I have no idea how would it fare.

Alternatively you could find a manga that has furigana…

>>16280771

Seems like a normal day for me

>>16283002

I had quite the streak going for a while there, but since I was forced out of being a NEET I got into the habit of doing my reps on a tablet while eating breakfast there's been a few days where my brain seemingly just shut off and it's as if I forgot the existence of Anki. Routine sure can be important for keeping up study.

Where's a good place to find Japanese dubs of American shows like star trek? Having a tough time finding something.

how is sentence mining so great when you get like 300 new words a day. Am I supposed to try and learn even 50 per day after I put them into anki?

That's insane, plus, for each word too, I have to decide for myself which of the millions of meanings that are displayed I have to recall for it to be correct. That just seems messy and demotivating

>>16285505

>Am I supposed to try and learn even 50 per day

No? Trying to learn too much per day on Anki will just lead to hour+ long reviews and burn you out.

>>16285448

I watched some dubbed episodes of Looney Toons on Niconico a while back. Wouldn't always recommend translated works as great study sources since they can be kind of stiff and such.

>>16285505

Sentence mining is lame. Who wants to read entire sentences in a flashcard every time they review? They're supposed to be quick. Not to mention I'd rather be reading new sentences, not the same old ones over and over. Experiencing words in new and varied contexts to not only improve my recognition but also flesh out my understanding. Words that have a ton of different meanings aren't very well suited to flashcards. You could either aim for a general meaning/concepts, or choose to learn those particular words and their nuances through exposure alone.

>>16285505

ah yeah just to clear that up I confused sentence and vocab mining..

>>16286432

I only play pokemon in english because I don't care to relearn all the names and moves and everything and don't really care about story either, also romhacks never work with the jap versions

>>16286448

I've been wanting to play gen 1 and 2 or the remakes in Nip at the very least, but I haven't been able to convince myself to do it. Just because it's hard to play Pokemon anymore, even the ones I really liked. Also tried SM/USUM but I only got as far as route 1. Maybe someday. Or not.

>>16286432

I played all of the MGS games in both English and Japanese and Japanese is definitely better.

>>16286432

I tend to prefer the original language when possible, don't want to deal with loss in translation no matter the language. Shantae and the Pirate's Curse is the only English original game I can think of which I played in Japanese. There's been a couple JP games I played in English because of availability, DS2 being one. Just started playing DS3 in JP, but voice is English regardless so menus aside, which albeit is a sizable portion I guess, you get to experience both.

>>16286425

I forgot to add that you don't need to mine every new word you see. Skip stuff if you don't think it's particularly useful for your level or if it's common enough that you'll learn it naturally or just whenever.

>>16286466

Despite it being in my exceptions category, it's a series I've been thinking about playing in Nip sometime because I like Akio Otsuka. Japanese Gray Fox is pretty good too.

>>16286472

The English versions are full of poor translations and weird casting choices, like picking a different actor for Solidus and Solid Snake.

Huh. Not surprised about the poor TLs, Kojima got pissed when he found out that Jeremy Blaustein actually localized MGS1 and made sure others were more literal. Never did understand the different casting for the The Les Enfants Terribles children though.

Oh, come to think of it, I do remember one weird TL in MG2, the MSX one. Gray Fox says "I'm your number 1 fan" being translated as "I'm one of your fans".

Damn I feel stupid. I'm beginning to learn verb conjugation past simple -masu, -masen, etc, forms. But you know what I'm getting hung up on? Understanding the meanings of "volitional" "causative" "provisional conditional" and things like that. It's sad because I was a straight A student in high school and college English classes. Japanese is making me have to look up English grammar.

>>16286636

>Japanese is making me have to look up English grammar.

This happened to me too. I can use English fine and tell you when it's wrong, but fucked if I can actually recite grammar rules or remember grammar terms. Unfortunately the same thing happened with Japanese, I couldn't tell you about the rules anymore either.

It's not like knowing the textbook terms/rules really matters as long as you understand it.

>>16286636

You aren't having to learn English grammar, you're having you learn fundamentals of cross-linguistic analysis I.e. linguistic morphology/syntax/semantics.

imo it's worth it because everything has been given that name because it's descriptive of its usage and understanding why it has that name will help you remember how to use it very fundamentally.

Anyone know where I can get the RTK 3 pdf at?

>>16289712

That's just the standard warning that tells you to play games in a well lit room far away from the TV, etc.

>>16289749

That's what I figured, could only understand fragments of that whole thing. Thanks for the confirmation, anon. Looks like I'll have to do a bit more digging to see what's causing the freeze.

>>16289754

What game is it?

>>16289712

>Before you play the game you should make the light on in your room and sit far away from the monitor. And also don´t forget to make a pause sometimes.

At least that´s the gist of it. So it´s not an error message.

>>16289756

The Tetris Sakura Cardcaptor game for the PS1.

>>16289760

Try a different emulator. There are a lot of PS1 emulators and some of them are shit. Mednafen/Retroarch has the best compatibility.

>>16289767

That sucks. I'm using PCSXR, if that matters. I'm wondering if there's some settings I could change which could make any difference. You wouldn't happen to be familiar with that emulator, are you?

>>16289783

>You wouldn't happen to be familiar with that emulator, are you?

Nope, sorry.

>>16285731

>Sentence mining is lame. Who wants to read entire sentences in a flashcard every time they review?

it's very useful for edge cases. in any language there are constructions and sentences that have their own meaning and disregard conventions, conventional grammar, or common sense. any conventional approach or attempt at translation would yield gibberish. this issue is especially prevalent with common sayings and stock phrases. the following sentences are equivalent:

Speak of the devil and he doth appear -> Hablando de Roma el burro se asoma (literally "Speaking of Rome, the donkey appears")

or more drastically, You snooze, you lose -> Camarón que se duerme se lo lleva la corriente (literally "Shrimp that falls asleep gets swept by the tide")

no translator or dictionary will help you if you happen to come across these kinds of phrases. the only way to learn them is having the whole sentence's meaning explained to you or someone telling you of an equivalent in your language.

(I know the above is Spanish and this is a Moon thread but I barely know anything beyond a couple of loose words. I just wanted to quickly make a point and help anon) pls no bully.

>>16290317

Yeah, I didn't think about expressions, proverbs and the like, what with him saying hundreds of words per day my thoughts were just with mining any sentence with new words. Definitely agree sentence-based cards can be good in those cases. With the online dictionaries I usually use, you actually can look up that stuff quite easily though. Pretty sure EDICT/rikai has such entries as well. This site here actually has a dedicated section where you can find all the ones they list even: dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/category/慣用句・ことわざ/

what does amari mean with negative commands, like

>amari kotchi minaide

"don't look this way much"/"don't much look this way" or "don't look this way too much"?

I only know that it means too much when it's not used with negative verbs

>>16292765

>don't look this way too much

This is the most accurate. Anyway you don't have to find an English equivalent to all expressions, in fact doing so will confuse you much of the time.

>>16292792

okay, thanks

>>16289783

Use mednafen. PCSX is redundant.

>>16292765

>>16292792

Wouldn't the English equivalent be "don't stare at me"?

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/k10011862061000/k10011862061000.html

Looks like they are trying to poz nip kids.

>>16298998

Figures this pops up when I use the site to mine and read. Hard maybe on whether I'll attempt that if only to see what the fuck. Because I'm ballsy enough to do this without finishing Tae Kim, I gave another article a try and somehow didn't run crying to Google Translate (though I got very close on もします. The all kana's been tripping me up a lot lately.

兵庫県宝塚市にある宝塚音楽学校は、女優や歌手を育てる女性だけの学校です。バレエや音楽などを２年勉強して、舞台では女性が男性の役もします。卒業した人の中には有名な人がたくさんいて、入学するのがとても難しい学校です。

>Located in the Hyougo prefecture, the Takarazuka Music School is a female only school that trains its students in the arts of acting and singing. They study ballet and music for two years while imitating the man's role on the stage. With many famous people among the graduates, it is a very difficult school to enter.

２８日、入学の試験に合格した人の発表がありました。学校によると、今年は９１５人が試験を受けて４０人が合格しました。合格した人の番号を書いた紙の前では、自分の番号を見つけた人たちがうれしくて泣いたり、写真を撮ったりしていました。

>On the 28th, those who passed the entrance exam were announced. According to the school, among the 915 who took the exam this year, 40 have passed. [not confident enough to put the rest into proper words; the ones who passed took pictures and cried happily when they saw their ID numbers written on what I assume was a bulletin board)

合格した１７歳の女性は「夢のようです。将来はかっこいい男性の役をしたいです」と話していました。

>A 17 year old girl who passed said "It's like a dream. I want to find a cool guy in the near future."

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/k10011863921000/k10011863921000.html

>>16304396

>a female only school that trains its students in the arts of acting and singing

You may already know this, but the use of や and など in these sentences indicate that other things are also taught at the school, not just acting and singing. So it's more like "trains its students in arts such as acting and singing". This also applies to the バレエや音楽など bit too then.

>They study ballet and music for two years while imitating the man's role on the stage

I think it would be more like "They study things like ballet or music for 2 years, and also perform male roles on stage".

>not confident enough to put the rest into proper words

You got the general idea.

>I want to find a cool guy in the near future.

Again, I think it is indicating the role of a male in a performance. 役 can be used to indicate a member of a play and things like that.

>>16304825

Thank you very much! Slightly reformatting the way I do things. Reading more (and making a mining deck) and doing an Anki deck after every other article/page/whatever.

>You may already know this, but the use of や and など in these sentences indicate that other things are also taught at the school

I know that but I failed or forgot to convey that. Truth be told, I jumped the gun and wanted to show off to prove (likely to myself) that I am indeed learning. I understood almost all of the article, though Yomichan helped with unfamiliar words and words that would be familiar if they weren't in pure kana like もします (not to mention I stress over whether using it is considered cheating). Or I could be wrong on that front. I am still learning after all but it makes me wonder if those who somewhat understand what they read outnumber those who take the time to actually translate it for the masses.

>>16304878

I'm pretty sure the もします is the も particle + する in the polite form. Are you thinking it is 模す? It sounds like it. To that point though, there are words that are commonly used in kanji or just kana, but you will see shit written in all 3 writing scripts no matter what is more common. It sounds more intimidating than it is, and can actually make written material more entertaining with how the author decides to mix the kanas and kanji.

>>16310141

>>16308893

Begone shill

>>16310141

>ur mumma a poo poo wee wee doodle bum LOL!

Bit curious here. How do you lot do word mining? Just collect words to and fro at random or only do so when trying to read/comprehend something (whether it be a page, article, pic, etc).

>>16310799

>http://www.kanjidamage.com

No it is not.

>>16310828

>>16311112

retards

is there something similar to this (https://japanesetest4you.com/category/jlpt-n5/) that's not completely broken and ridden with ads and malware? I would just like some simple text-book-like passages that neatly test grammar/reading comprehension and happen to be in a software format (no manual lookups of answers etc.)

>>16312880

Official JLPT website or books like みんなの日本語

>>16311799

When reading. If there's ever a specific topic I want to expand my vocabulary on, I'll just read something related to it. I don't mine every unknown word indiscriminately, I pick and choose. As a beginner I ignored complicated words in favor of seemingly useful, somewhat more common words. Now I usually aim for the more rare words that I would otherwise likely forget before I ever encountered them again naturally. Haven't mined any new words since I was kind of pushed into an updated version of Firefox which doesn't have a good Rikaisama.

>>16305226

Yes, that's exactly it. How could you conclude otherwise? What else would

topic: future dream comment: become father's bride mean?

>>16313001

>I don't mine every unknown word indiscriminately, I pick and choose.

Well shit, now that creeping doubt is coming back. I just keep adding words willy nilly with the exceptions of ultra simple stuff like 先生 and 学生.

>Haven't mined any new words since I was kind of pushed into an updated version of Firefox which doesn't have a good Rikaisama.

That "suprise" update happened to you too huh? Sucks and I barley managed to freeze automatic updates on the other computer but by then, the Rikaisama real time import function ceased to work and Yomichan refuses to cooperate on older Firefox versions. Not that I ever bothered to use it. Kept adding words manually and after getting Yomichan…

Bah, blogposting. Long story short, go for Yomichan. I find its real time import function acceptable. Also have Rikaichamp but only because I find mousing over text more convenient then doing that and THEN holding the shift key (not to mention it's a bit finicky).

>>16313038

I'm very new to this reading/comprehension thing after spending God knows how many months on strictly Anki and Tae Kim. Feedback and second opinions seldom hurt. Besides, I'm lucky she speaks simply here. Not every speck of dialogue has such a simple structure. Finally, while she couldn't have been saying anything else due to context and shit, the sheer amount of homonyms (I think that's the right word) could make the bare hiragana mean many other things. Screwed me over when practicing on a news article.

>>16311799

I just look up unknown words as I come across them, don't bother adding them to a deck.

>>16313071

I don't think it's too big a deal to be a little overzealous with mining at the start. But even if they're not ultra-simple, as long as they're ultra-common, you should generally be able to pick them up without Anki. You can always suspend or delete cards later as you deem necessary though if you're not sure. However, if adding and keeping up with those cards is taking a lot of time and interfering with getting in that actual reading practice you probably should cut back.

I'd been using an old version of FF, but when I upgraded my computer and tried to port my stuff, all my FF settings and such ended up borked for some reason so I just gave in and downloaded the latest version. I tried Yomichan but I couldn't adapt. Have one of the lesser offshoots for a quick EDICT when I'm lazy, but I sure miss having working Anki import and EPWING support.

>>16311715

Thank you

>>16314943

It's all about rote. Mental torture.

>>16314943

Gratz, anon. I'm happy to hear of your success. I've still got a long way to go

>>16314943

listen is not the problem anon

the problem is reading the fucking thibg

>>16315350

>breed, you kusoNEET pieces of shitto, breed

>>16315350

>>16315414

Should have added that its reveal of name for the new era of the new emperor

>>16315350

So gents, do you agree with Abe that the new name is indeed all about the poem or you think he is too faced and it has more to do with the more modern readings 令？

>>16315350

Manko era. Great name.

>>16317208

Unless I looked up those kanji wrong, they don't have the kana to make up まんこ. Anyways, the dead times in these threads worry me. I still might send my other comprehension attempts for feedback's sake. My latest attempt at a news article reminded me of my two weaknesses: rushing things and assuming the sentences always read from left to right like Latin languages. A distinct third would be ignoring every definition except the first one, thinking it's the default everywhere.

>>16318770

>Unless I looked up those kanji wrong, they don't have the kana to make up まんこ.

It's using the archaic form.

>>16318785

So archaic I can't find it on Jisho? Odd. Anyways, is it common to get momentarily discouraged when stumbling on sentences you ought to know only to run it in Google Translate and get even more exasperated when you it's extremely obvious (even moreso when you go back and look up the words one by one?)

>>16318770

>assuming the sentences always read from left to right like Latin languages

Horizontal text is read left to right, vertical text is read right to left.

>>16318845

I know that much. What I mean is that I get stuck deciphering the first part of a sentence's particles and completely forget about the other half. Doubly so when it doesn't have the basic "topic~comment" format that many a news article seems to either lack or make so long that it overwhelms me. Seriously hope my brain isn't somehow incompatible with the language.

>>16318785

>>16318770

>>16318793

>>16318845

>>16318883

https://www.reddit.com/r/japancirclejerk/comments/b7wywt/welcome_to_the_manko_era_for_all_our_esperanto/

It is the era of manko.

>>16318793

Be careful with google translate, it isn't very good for Japanese. It can be okay with really basic things, but I wouldn't rely on it.

What would you do in my situation?

I was assess myself as a jplt n6 (thats a joke, but an accurate one)

I've been attempting to learn japanese for over a year now. Only learned how to study with anki half a year ago. I have textbooks but I never open them. I "know" (sometimes recognize) about 250 kanji but can only write about 10 of them. I barely even watch anime anymore.

I feel despondent. I doubt moving to Japan would help. I was going to go this summer until I realized that I have absolutely no interest in Japanese culture on a deeper level. the most appealing thing is merely that it is a non european country that has civilization. a novelty.

>>16322272

Time-limit your vocab practice for a while and switch to studying the textbooks every day and doing a lot of exercises.

>>16322272

Start consuming media in the language or otherwise learn enough grammar that you can do so at even a basic level. Read a lot. Quit while you're ahead if that's what you want to do. I'm not particularly interested in Japan as a country myself, can't say I'd want to live there the way some things are, but regardless have strong interest in a number of things Japanese which was my inspiration. I could learn Japanese for the porn games alone. Try to renew your passion, hiccups in motivation along the way is normal; everyone feels like quitting sometimes. Find something you can do with the language and just try to enjoy yourself with it. If you've utterly lost your reason to learn and don't have the wherewithal to see it through, then I might suggest not wasting your time. Don't want to be another couple years and still just barely managing the basics because you're half-assing it. You'll feel worse wasting 3 years than just 1.

>>16322272

I'm learning it so I can write and sing karaoke pslams to God in Japanese

>>16322272

Use http://www.kanjidamage.com/

>>16181898

Does anyone know where to download high quality RAW manga? Going to try and read a series all the way through.

>>16323464

https://nyaa.si is what I use.

Filter: Lit > Raw.

>>16323475

>cartel

At least use toshokan if finding anything on pantsu cat is too hard

>>16323464

Both websites are ran by shitlords so it doesn't matter.

>>16323800

And herkz is the largest shitlord of them all

>>16323464

You can find a good chunk of manga in the guide. Try Googling for a title + "raw" and you'll find a number of shitty ddl sites. If what you're reading isn't too popular there may not be torrents for it but you might be able to find it on one of them. Quality isn't always something you can really be picky about when you're looking for specific series unfortunately.

Part of me wants to learn Japanese but part of me feels guilty for doing it. I feel stupid learning a language that isn't part of my heritage. Does anyone else have these feelings?

>>16331051

Can you fuck off, kanjidamage shill?

>>16331051

Kill yourself my dude

>>16333243

>>16332012

no

Think this guy has a point?

>>16335778

Not going to watch all of that but if he's just rambling about the one thing, I disagree. Having to read between the lines when people say things is definitely a thing in English and other languages I'm sure. There's outspoken people and passive people. You might have to do that more extensively with Japanese people due to their culture, I don't know, but certainly not an exclusive concept. As someone who works mostly with women, I can attest to that. I do think there's a good chance it's the most difficult language, at least for a native English speaker among commonly spoken modern languages but not necessarily so for native speakers of other languages, which I believe has a significant effect on it.

>>16335903

>if he's just rambling about the one thing, I disagree

Yeah, he pretty much goes on a 30 minute tirade about how the underpinning Japanese culture of politeness strongly influences one's ability to effectively communicate. As an example, he talks about how それがいい and それでいい hold different connotations, and can be interpreted differently by different people, and depending on how you're trying to come across, you may stumble or be seen as someone who isn't very proficient in the language.

I also disagree with him because we have very similar modes of speech in English. For instance, your tone of voice and choice of words can augment your overall message, and this is how you can be interpreted differently. There's a different between saying "Oh, that's good!" in a genuinely enthusiastic way and saying "oh, that's good, I guess" in a despondent or apathetic way. I guess he's implying that this does not exist in other languages.

>>16335778

These same issues exist in English. You can say the exact same words in the exact same order but mean completely different things based on your tone, what words you emphasis, where you pause or don't. Your word choices and phrasing can also make you sound polite, like a retard, casual, and so on even if you are saying the same thing in every case. We have regional dialects in the US that you can use phrases from for comic effect or that will make you sound stupid in the wrong contexts. Not that Japanese isn't difficult, it certainly is. I don't know a lot about languages but I imagine these deep subtle nuances exist and are hard to learn for many or most languages, especially for non-native learners. It sounds like they may be a native so they could be more biased to think Jap is harder based on that.

New thread?

>>16337889

I usually wait until the old thread dies. These threads aren't too popular so I don't see much reason in taking up two spots in the catalog.

>>16338035

Rules are after 350 replies once it goes past page 10 you can make a new thread since it is past the bump-limit. I was wondering why I never see a new thread post on these threads.

>>16338035

Are the ones on /a/ and /animu/ any better? This is basically the only place I come for comprehension feedback.

>>16338186

I don't go to those boards so I can't say. May as well ask in multiple threads if the others are active though since it's more feedback.

Hard parts at the moment are coming up with pics and an edition.

男女男男女男女

fuck it, new thread if anyone is still around this one >>16341154