/v/ - Video Games

>>16169085

>Ground Zeroes is turning five in a month

Jesus.

>I am never going to get over what happened to this game

So, what happened to it? I know nothing about MGS.

Ground Zeroes also had so much more goofy and outlandish shit in it compared to Phantom Pains. PP felt like it was trying to huff it's own farts while you had stuff like womb bombs and time travelling cyborg ninjas in Ground Zeroes. I think the Raiden mission was also a Body Snatchers reference but I can't remember if they were the same one or not.

>>16169131

The side missions weren't canon, and I wouldn't call the womb bombs "goofy".

>>16169134

I think it was hilarious.

>>16169115

>was missing an entire chapter of it's story upon release.

You can't even say that because it was never added later and they have no intention of EVER finishing the game or fixing any of the problems.

>>16169131

>>16169134

Was it a womb bomb, or a rectum bomb?

>>16169146

Clearly womb, given that Chico raped her a few days before.

>>16169139

>>16169115

>they still haven't realized Survive was the third chapter

>>16169146

I'm pretty sure that it's explicitly shown that the bomb is in her womb or at least her abdomen.

>>16169155

Is there a way to play Survive by pirating it? I just want to use a trainer to dick around and see how bad it truly is.

I think the decision to put two whole hub worlds in TPP is really what fucked it up. Just have the Afganistan map, and fill it more densely with interesting things, and also have more stand alone areas that you visit, away from the hub.

>>16169103

Goddamn we're getting old.

>>16169160

>>16169166

Well, if you believe the guy who posted here, the problem was the last-gen consoles. They wanted MORE worlds but the consoles couldn't handle them, and they wanted denser content (and a Mother Base that looked like MGS2), but the consoles couldn't load all that shit simultaneously. The gaps between outposts and bases are the loading distances of the oldest consoles, and travel time allows them time to push shit out of the buffer.

>>16169169

But can I pirate it?

>>16169166

This is what I think they should have done. That way, they could have focused on more locations with intricate and complex interiors and not a simple fort set up that has one or two buildings with nothing in them and all of the guards are posted outside for some reason. Not once have I had to deal with someone guarding a comms radio or a generator warehouse.

>>16169085

>the true Metal Gear Solid 5 that would never see the light of day

It's called Peace Walker (^:

>>16169115

>Not just another Chapter, but 6-8 maps instead of the two, including the Camp Omega

NEVER EVER. Kojima wasted all his time and money posting selfies of him and celebrities in his twitter.

>>16169210

You'd think that there would be some unfinished content that gets rehashed in survive, but nope, there's only moss-covered wreck of sahelantropus.

>There are still people who think MGS' story didn't end with Peace Walker

Anything beyond it is a trainwreck with wagons full of bullshit and should not even be acknowledged as canon. And I thought 4 was bad.

>>16169210

Remember all that bullshit about how you'd have urban environments like cold war USA and Russian cities? Or how Ocelot was playable?

>>16171834

They should have stuck to the hard political edge of GZ, sprinkling some soviet vs usa-mujahadeen in there, with you using both factions as cover.

It will never not make me upset that they fucked it up.

>meanwhile, peace walker is 9 (nine) years old

let that sink in

>>16169085

Is there even one facility in Phantom Pain that is as complex as the one in Ground Zeroes?

The answer is no.

The completionist challenges in GZ were also a lot more interesting than find the collectables in PP.

Best scenario would have been to make two or three heavily designed ground zeroes style locations and have chapters. There is a weird "tony hawk" aspect to GZ that makes re-running it fun almost like a score attack. Three big levels that require you to do different things in them each mission would be fun. Explain it using quantum mechanics so you're like "didn't I just do this mission? Oh well the objectives are different" but you slowly find out you were another quantum possibility of what might have happened and it all converges in some mega pretentious way in the end.

>>16171904

>>meanwhile, peace walker is 9 (nine) years old

In April

>>16169160

theres no point, even when using a trainer your weapons will still degrade for somereason, the % wont go down but the amount of damage you do will

>>16169171

>pirate it

no idea but the game is pretty shit, you dont want to waste time downloading it, just watch a video or two

>>16169085

I put Ground Zeros in my top 10 favorite games, Phantom Pain not so much, but GZ was something else. I rewatch the opening pretty regularly, I love the immersive camera work, making the camera function as a physical part of the scene, like when the jeep drives away from the cages and the camera pivots back a little as the vehicle lurches forward. That stuff is great, reminded me of The Revenant but even more visceral. Screw anyone who praises God of War 4's "continuous shot" bullshit, it literally does nothing for the game because it's just an over the shoulder cam that clips through enemies during pre-rendered shots, there's nothing immersive about that at all, just triple A dick swinging.

>>16171917

what's really frustrating is there are places with that complexity that show they tried to do it. the mines, the airport, OKB Zero. the game should have had more of those places and less of an "open world". those smaller outposts and buildings should have made up the meat of what was inbetween those larger bases rather than endless open nothing. would have also made the actual sneaking more tense because all the bases nearby would go on red alert too. it's one thing that made GZ so great, Camp Omega is so claustrophobic in some places that one wrong move is a guaranteed fail on some Hard side-ops.

>the 30 dollar demo was good

Fuck off, they are both shit.

i dont get why people try to shit all over good games that just dont happen to live up to their expectations

yes it isnt a perfect MGS game

but no as game its way better than most whats being developed right now in the industry

>>16169085

Here's what really happened: you shilled Ground Zeroes so much, after getting torn a new one for paying for a 20 minutes demo, that you neuroticized and ended up attacking the Phantom Pain too.

Notice the fine difference between hating nuMGS as a whole (a valid opinion) and instead splitting hairs, to proclaim that one area is better than all the rest combined. It sounds like a joke nowadays, but I'm completely serious when I say that shilling caused you a small neurosis.

>>16175360

>>you will never unshoot your comrades

You can just buy a pack of dozen better ones with PFffft points, or redeem your pachislot noises for S ranking missions.

>>16175360

>the fox engine will go to waste

Now that complaint I don't understand. If you can't render more than 12 enemies (animals count) at a time, what good is it? MGS 4 had a living world with multiple factions fighting each other regardless of your actions. MGS V was completely empty in every way. No civilians, no mujahideen, no battles, and no choices for you. Do you help the soviets? They win already. Do you help the dune coons, knowing they lose? Do you just slaughter civilians and truly become a demon? No kids, either; can't kill them. I'm talking about Afghanistan. There aren't kids or civilians in Africa either, but there are plenty of bipedal animals there.

The TPP should have took Ground Zeroes tier level designs, but broke everything up into Peace Walker styled missions.

The Open world shit killed the game and killed the level designs just like every single game that falls for the open world meme.

>>16175410

They could easily have done a pseudo-open world system like that. Give the player fairly large mission-style areas with the option of different starting infiltration points. Combine that with different load outs and you'd get replayability and different objectives achievable/locked out depending on your starting setup.

>>16175405

> If you can't render more than 12 enemies (animals count) at a time, what good is it?

Well, survive goes to 50 or so (^:

Also uses fog to cleverly hide pop-in

> Do you help the dune coons, knowing they lose?

Fun fact, in Japanese "Back up, Back down" is called "raid the armored column" leading me to believe that Miller is making shit up to justify just going around stealing random soviet shit.

>but there are plenty of bipedal animals there.

speaking of animals in africa

>>16175439

>tfw I have a nuclear device in development stuck at 12 hours because I'll never boot up the game again.

>tfw I still haven't played TPP but finished every other main game in the series

Ground Zeroes was an excellent demo though.

>>16175439

>I know in my heart that all of my soldiers must have been killed by now, and my base pilfered completely.

The only ones who get killed/stolen are the "security team," but yeah they get shafted all the time. Then again, NO ONE PLAYS ANYMORE, so tens of thousands of people have dropped out of the rankings. I'm 750th or so in the entire world now for that "short list" thing. Months ago I was in the hundred thousands. I really have no fucking idea what that even means. I just sign up for the short list when I see it. It's an AA+ rank, I think.

Using trainers to do a perfect stealth complete destruction retaliation when your FOB is attacked is satisfying as fuck.

>>16175453

>tfw I have a nuclear device in development stuck at 12 hours

Don't those run on world time, not game time?

>>16173608

>I rewatch the opening pretty regularly

It was pretty great, somber.

>how's it feel to play the traitor?

>you're a real man now, soldier

>>16175543

As much as I don't approve of women in combat, I always looked for the OUTER_HAREM and… fuck, I forget the other one. Those FOBs that show up 100% of the time for me in the "challenge" tab, because they're hacked to have all female soldiers (the one I can't remember is hacked to have all S++), which makes for good extractions.

Then you find regular people who are so stupid that they put their DLC/preorder characters on their FOBs, so you can extract and have multiple one-time-only characters. For a game that wasn't even remotely complete, it was fun at times.

>>16169085

>what happened to this game

Kojima was 30 million dollars over budget and the game wasn't even close to being finished, all that while working for a company that didn't saw any future in AAA game development anymore.

Kojima eventually just said "Fuck you, fire me" to their constant insistence that he needed to cut features to just get the game out the door already and that's what they were forced to do.

I know a lot of people don't like the open world, but TPP was designed for open world. Current tech and software made Kojima think it was time to make the game he always dreamed of. The game was meant to be about tactical freedom and variety, utilizing open world to its fullest. Laying distractions at another camp or base, so the one you want to target/infiltrate would send guards over. Being able to infiltrate and exfiltrate from different places, fleeing and then going back around a different way. The potential was there but Kojima squandered it and Konami fucked up the development big time.

I think the base development was a bad move in all honesty, all that time could have been spent on the game proper to make the actual stealth and action more fun. Being able to leave the zone hurt that open world feeling as you could just leave whenever you wanted. Being stuck in Afghanistan as you take out Soviet VIPs or raid their munitions etc. would have meant the region goes into lockdown and more guards patrol the land. Imagine if all you had was a small base camp in Afghanistan that you had to keep well stocked and supplied. If guards would patrol the wilderness to try and find you. Then the open world would work a lot better. As it stands, TPP will go down as a disappointing game that promised the world and came nowhere close. I think even if the story was finished and trailer scenes included people would still be disappointed.

>>16169103

holy shit has it been that long?

>>16169085

The real Phantom Pain is the one we got from this game. It really disappoints me that this game was supposed to be great but who knows how much longer KojiPro would keep working on this game if they were with Konami.

>>16175808

>Things like this reinforce my belief that Konami stifled this game, not Kojima.

what butthurt LE KOJIMA IS A HACK!!!! fags don't understand is that a lot of MGSV's development time was building FOX engine alongside the game. this was a massive investment meant to be used for all of Konami's future AAA titles. Kojima was only a Vice President which may as well have just been an honorary title, and Konami signed off on the idea to begin with. so this idea that Kojima just pissed away $30 million doing nothing is retarded, it was obviously used to build the engine and recruit talent. at the 2013 GDC Kojima was trying to recruit more people to work on the game and engine because Konami simply didn't have the manpower for what he was trying to do. had Konami just held out a little while longer, it could have been THE AAA dev of the east but of course panchinko and mobileshit games are a safer bet.

>>16175851

>butthurt LE KOJIMA IS A HACK!!!!

I still don't understand this nonsense.

A few years ago someone comes around and claims this hidden genius (Fukushima) did all the work and this somehow invalidates any effort Kojimbo ever made and tried to force an idea that all of the previous games are now shit.

Massive shitposting ensues.

I'm not even a fan of Kojima or whatever, but the guy liked his series and he and his team did what they could to make the games shine.

>>16175966

and yet when Fukushima worked on his own title, Ghost Babel, it was extremely dry. Kojima's zaniness and sense of cinematic style is what makes the series what it is, the political/espionage stuff is just window dressing. the lack of his touch in MGSV is really apparent when TPP didn't have the same cinematic sensibilities as GZ showed.

i don't think people understand that GZ was the classic Metal Gear thing to show Kojima still "has it". TPP doesn't break away from MGS norms because he's washed up, it was a series of intentional stylistic choices from a guy who was bored of the template. after years of having side projects turned down, TPP was the guy taking this 20 year legacy he'd built up and turning it into his own private playground. MGS4 was a sendoff to the series for the fans and TPP was the sendoff for the creator.

honestly i think a lot of the butthurt comes from TPP not conforming to everyone's retarded fantheories. people are still butthurt Venom is a medic and not Gray Fox and that Skull Face isn't Zero in disguise, etc.

Mgs5 surpassed max Payne 3 and saints row 3 as my most disappointing games of all time.

Ground zeros showed that it could have been great. Fucking Kojima and Konami.

>>16169085

here's how your entire argument was taken apart at the time it was made

>40 dollar for 10 minutes of gameplay demo

ZING just wait for tpp it'll be so thicc with gameplay

>>16169085

they sold you the beginning and cut out the ending. Kojima is a hack who went overboard with the games budget and got shafted by the kikes at Konami.

>>16169169

Rather than zombies in a different dimension with spaghetti monsters, they should have just made a mgs game where your character washes up on some hostile's island. That or it could have just dropped the mgs in the title and just been its own game without tying itself to another series.

>>16175354

I love these size comparison maps, they are always fucking retarded.

You can have a game as vast and wide as the ocean, but it doesnt fucking matter if it has the depth of a puddle.

Yesterday's

>Ground Zeroes is totally not 20 minutes long

Became today's

<this paid demo was better than a full game

>>16171917

>Is there even one facility in Phantom Pain that is as complex as the one in Ground Zeroes?

Yes, the ancient town in Skull Face shits all over camp omega. But you wasted hours replaying that, so you perceive it of higher value.

This is what I thought from the very first hours of starting mgs5, hoping it'd get better eventually, and in the end just being let down. If only mgs5 had that same level of quality throughout. The demo set the standards too high and exposed the full game for the heap of shit it was

>>16169146

Womb, explicitly because no one would ever think of looking there, the anus would be the first thing they would check.

>>16176012

>Expecting nuance in thinking from retards like this >>16180600

Ill believe he's losing touch if Death Stranding is bad. But too many fags think it's cool to kneejerk react on a few mistakes because they're as wishy washy as a roastie deciding whether or not to cheat on her boyfriend

>>16180664

>Game is bad that has been hardly revealed.

Shut up fag. Next you're going to imply every open world is bad like every other trend following fag here that forgets that it once used to be popular to say EVERY LINEAR GAME is bad.

>>16169169

I haven't played it and it doesn't necessarily have to be a bad game, but it's not the game most people wanted.

It's not like there is a drought of SURVIVAL CRAFTING OPEN WORLD titles or anything.

>>16180654

This.

Everyone is dumping shit because it's cool to do so.

It doesn't matter, current /v/ is just an ocean of piss.

>>16180678

>this game is good and i know it even though its hardly been revealed

wew lad

>every open world is bad

both open world and linear games are bad every cunt knows this

>>16180694

I can see Kojima making it like he did just to make us feel a "phantom pain" because he's a pretentious mother fucker.

>>16180678

>you haven't seen anything of the game so you can't say it's bad

>i haven't seen anything of the game so I can say that it's good

Going off of track record, MGS4 was utter trash, MGSV was an alright game with nothing in it because Kojima fired the only man that could restrain his unbridled autism, causing it to skyrocket past the budget and all deadlines, it doesn't look good. Sure, he can't outright say that the game is shit yet, but what little they've shown doesn't look like a game, really.

>>16180713

Don't think I said that it would be good strawman-kun

I believe the solid fact is that Death Stranding will tell us the truth; is Kojima really a hack who broke the budget or was konami strangling his vision?

>>16180575

t.sons of cuckjima

>>16180654

Death Stranding will be good, stop whining you anti-Kojima faggot.

>>16180531

Would you take 10 minutes of something good or 50 hours of shit being shoveled in your face

>>16180575

>, the ancient town in Skull Face shits all over camp omega

The what now?

You mean the village with 9 soviet guys?

or do you mean the corridor town

>>16180838

speaking of dead franchises…

>retards still think DS is a "walking sim"

>they still don't realize the "walking sim" segments are just the tutorial and downtime between horror

>they still don't realize DS is a horror game recycling ideas from Silent Hills

>they still don't get that the marketing is keeping the nature of the game quiet so no one buys it expecting a horror game

top lel

>>16180963

>DS is a horror game

yeah imagine my shock paying 60 buckaroos for overhyped garbage

>>16181288

Are you ready for sonyggers who eat up lust of ass and ask druckmann for more to praise it as a masterpiece, just like cuck of snore?

>>16181288

That pic reminds me, what's Ayami Kojima been doing since Konami dropped her? Doesn't seem like she's had much work.

>>16181279

haha epic, have an upvote good sir :) +1 internets!

>>16175439

its pretty easy to build it all up again. most of the bitch work is just getting soldiers again and all you need to do is use infinite heaven, activate mother base invasions and make all attackers women and use a walker equipped with a fulton

>>16182169

So are you saying just play Kenshi instead? Shame it's not on a better engine.

>this entire thread

cuckchanners have infested this place after the resetera drama huh

I gu

>>16182197

You truly must be retarded if you think half the posts in this thread aren't obviously written by people who just came here

>>16182203

I live in utter contempt of your nofun faggot club you were aborted from.

All I see are the usual Kojima hug club, you're fresh off the beach if you lanky little niggers think this is new.

>>16175881

>that loadout

I guess I missed all the fun. How is that possible? Can you really put anything you want on these weapons?

>>16180757

No one will care about the truth though, people expect Kojimbo's game to feature wacky shit with a fake deep story.

>>16182386

>Fox Engine is still only utilized for divegrass and the husk of MGS

And Konami's Pachinko machines :^)

I loved TPP while playing, but as the end neared something started to feel off, and while I liked the switcheroo intro, it made zero sense to make you play the entire opening mission over again for the new ending. Left a sour taste and afterwards when it started to become clear how much content was cut, it pretty much ruined my earlier well-enjoyed experience with the game. A shame. I think the funniest thing is that while GZ had a small map and very few items to fuck around with, I fucked around with it so much, yet in TPP I barely used any interesting items or fucked around.

>>16185745

Fucking nips, just give us MGS3 in the Fox Engine. That's all they have to do.

>B-but it won't sell! Gaijin don't want old games!

Fucking stupid, they'll get shit loads of cash from both people who played the original and normalfags whose first MGS was V.

>>16185849

>But no piggu-gaijin! you rike Metal Gear Survive!

Wew

>>16185857

Did that game bomb or something? They might say something among those lines: 'since MGSurvive failed the franchise is dead'.

>>16185866

They ain't telling people what the overall sales are, but it dropped in sales after release in the US and UK, and much like TPP, it's still getting updates and events for players, fucking wew.

>>16185806

> I think the funniest thing is that while GZ had a small map and very few items to fuck around with, I fucked around with it so much, yet in TPP I barely used any interesting items or fucked around.

because there aren't any items or incentives to make experimentation worthwhile. the tranq pistol you get at the beginning is basically the best weapon in the game. you never really get anything that works any better or differently so there's no reason to switch off it. even when soldiers are wearing helmets you can still hit them in the face or just double tap them.

>>16185866

that's basically the rationalization Konami has always used. release a shitty cashgrab game in a franchise, fans hates it and normalfags don't like it because it sucks, "oh well no one is interested in [franchise] anymore, no more games for you!" they essentially hold franchises hostage, threatening fans to buy the garbage or else they'll cancel the franchise. they did it to Castlevania and Silent Hill and this is them finally doing it to Metal Gear.

>>16186189

>release a shitty cashgrab game in a franchise, fans hates it and normalfags don't like it because it sucks, "oh well no one is interested in [franchise] anymore, no more games for you!" they essentially hold franchises hostage, threatening fans to buy the garbage or else they'll cancel the franchise

But why, surely releasing good games that fans want makes more money than forcing them to buy garbage.

>>16186207

the issue is the dinosaurs in charge of Konami hate video games. they're old and don't understand the market at all, so instead of taking calculated investment risks they're churning out easy money with mobile games and gambling. all we can really do is wait for the dinosaurs to die out or hope the shareholders want more bang for their buck.

>>16185866

it fucked up so hard its playerbase died after a week, and since its a coop game you cant do anything once you complete the story because no coop buddies for babysitting some gay drill for 30 minutes. so bad they still make updates for the few 10s of fags playing it instead of just making a good metal gear game, worst part is that they promised old content from other MGS games would make a return but you only got suits, no guns or items

>>16185849

>normalfags whose first MGS was V.

So the cakekike?

>>16186748

in 5 or 10 years time people will look back on the game and realize all the things it did right. surprised people don't jump on the political stuff as much. it isn't as overt as past games but the nationalism vs globalism stuff is blatantly there.

>>16181433

Looking at Mobygames accrediting, apparently nothing vidya since Harmony of Despair. Meanwhile Hirooka (Suikoden Tierkreis, Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia) seems to be getting a fair bit of work after Konami dropped him or her as well, though it does strike me that being the redesigner on nuRadiant Historia is a stain (though I suppose it could have been Atlus themselves making the choices there with the artist just translating them to visuals).

>>16180575

Skull Face is a corridor where you stick to the sides to avoid any danger.

>>16186207

>they essentially hold franchises hostage, threatening fans to buy the garbage

Reminder that Kojima wanted to series to end with Sons of Liberty but fans demanded more.

Besides, they bought 4 and V so they don't need any coercion to buy trash.

>>16187075

>the nationalism vs globalism stuff is blatantly there.

PFFFFFFFFFFFFHAHAHAA

retard.

>Hamburglar asshurt about english decides to deploy english-speaking ass parasites that will kill everyone who speaks english, and not anglokikes and burgermutts.

>his other big boy plan involves sellling broken nuclear weapons that don't work to sub-80IQ niggers.

THE POLITICS AND THEMES ARE SO DEEP, JUST SEND ANTHRAX TO OPPRESSORS AND SELL GUNS TO NIGGERS.

>>16187395

t. brainlet that didn't listen to the tapes where Zero talked about a global society with no borders or identity and Skull Face talked about preserving national borders by arming every sovereign nation on the planet with nuclear arms

>>16169085

>>16171917

non-linear levels > open world

>>16192186

Again, it wasn't Kojima who wrote that. He supports the degenerate world that Fukushima warned against.

>>16192361

Redpill me on Fukushima, >>16175966 says it's bullshit.

>>16192386

it is bullshit, the Fukushima meme is pushed by sour grapes faggots that are butthurt MGSV didn't conform to their retarded fantheories.

>>16192094

Considering how obvious it is that Ground Zeros was originally just chapter 1 of TPP before Konami wanted extra cash for the vertical slice and half the mission content, I believe all of this.

>>16192386

>>16192529

>credited as writing the codec calls in MGS2

<somehow not responsible for the codec call at the end of MGS2

My statements have nothing to do–and in no way are intended to diminish–the work and contribution of Kojima to both the creation of the game and even the story of said game. Fukushima is credited as the writer of the codec calls, however, and not Kojima. The obvious conclusion is that while Kojima wrote the story, set the tone, and built the framework for the message to be conveyed, Fukushima is the one who wrote that specific message.

>>16180694

>not ElonWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAA.png

>>16192386

>Redpill me on Fukushima,

He wrote most mgs games along with cumjimer and kept that retard in like, like the people who made most of the first 3 star wars movies and kept george lucas autism in line.

Fuk-u-jimer wasn't involved with mgsv, cumjimer had complete control over the project, thus the story became a gigantic turd. just like star wars movies 4-6.

>>16192550

Fukushima was at best an autist whisperer who was able to translate Kojima's ideas in themes into words. if you seriously think that Fukushima was just given free reign to write whatever he wants for codecs and came up with it all out of thin air you REALLY need to get those sour grapes checked.

>>16192876

>if you seriously think that Fukushima was just given free reign to write whatever he wants for codecs and came up with it all out of thin air

I never said that, but I guess it's real in your mind?

>>16192898

you're the one saying Fukushima "wrote" the codec calls as if he's the one who came up with the idea of the game. you're wrong. sorry!

>>16193041

>tfw nobody seemed to make the connection between quite breathing though her skin and the gold body paint

>>16194882

Shit, I can't believe the Goldfinger reference went over my head.

>>16180836

He means that ruin place with all the XOF soldiers, I think it's the mission where you finally go and face him just before the one where you fight Sahelanthropus.

>>16169115

> it was an open world game for instance.

It wasn't even that, it was barely a sandbox game. Fucking FF titles with a world map were more open world than TPP.

>>16193026

>Big Boss casually raping a no-name shmucks mind to wade through bullshit on his behalf.

Remember how the reason for Big Boss' asshurt with zero was LET and cloning in general?

but fortunately brainwashing some random hobo was fine by him while he fucked off to do nobody knows what for 11 years.

>>16194927

>>you can just stick to the left side and bypass the entire mission

>Not throwing a smoke grenade inside a jeep and casually driving by while seeing the XOF retards in woker geers run around in circles

>>16195029

You say that, but nothing to imply that exists in the remnants of the game files (or was reused in survive), and what anon describes sound literally like a copy of Peace Walker Mine Base but instead of Pupas there are shitteranthropodes (which don't even work)

I like how Zeke is immediately forgotten but apparently you go all the way from seychelles to lake nicaragua to fish out a bandana real big boss dumped there a decade ago

>>16192876

Become literate.

>>16180568

Yes. He's becoming a westaboo kike of epic proportions.

>>16195190

<a third of the game's content was on cassette tapes for you to listen to between checkpoints and bases

THAT'S AN ENEMY TOILET

AN ENEMY SNIPER

YOU'RE GOING TO EXTRACT HIM?!

MAP HAS BEEN UPDATED

DEVELOPMENT PROJECT COMPLETE

<soldiers you fultoned earlier that day are now running side-ops, for currency, resources, vehicles, and more

>12 Random dipshits you stole wander around aimlessly around your base, you can send them on shitty deployments that take 50 hours with arbitrary RNG chance to fail because fuck you

<your science & research department unlocks new gadgets, weapons, cybernetics and all sorts of 80's goodness

HAHAHA LE EPIC 6 MILLION DOLLAR MAN JINGLE XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

There's no reason to develop anything beyond a tier 3 suppressor, or developing anything at all since with lvl 1 tranq gun you can just order super-cheap resupply.

<Where are the bugs?

>AI script gets fucked beyond repair if you dare make noise or have your shilluette be seen, very fun when doing bullshit like "listen to conversation"

>Soldiers don't notice their comrades knocked out in vechicles

>Schizophrenic Spetsnaz hero will talk to himself if you interrupt the three fucks going to him

>More than 12 enemies in a single area will cause the 13th and beyond to turn into smoke.

>AI will shit itself when they see a sleeping animal, best seen in Pitch Black when you tranquilize the two dogs on your way out

>Separator tank in Pitch black has invisible roof to prevent artillery strikes

>Nothing exists outside of 300 meter radius from the player

>you can only have 1 resupply at a time, if you order another while the previous is still there it will vanish

>you can move out your nigger kid beyond it's own 300 meter leash to have it fulton automatically even when not having it developed

>Huey travels in time to call D-dog a wolf after you banish him

>squirt gun headshot on a sleeping or knocked out enemy will cause him to jump up, rub his eyes and fall back down

>broken checkpoint system, best seen in Back Up, Back Down

>Niggers forget who Viscount was and call in to execute him when their script fucks up

>Walker Gear drivers are legally retarded

>slopes

>smoke grenade in a jeep

>horse teleporting

>kill everyone in location

>cutscene to next mission

>cutscene ends

>everyone has respawned and i'm suddenly under fire

fucking gooks

>>16195351

>be on high alert

>go to edge of the mission

>wait

>nobody was actually chasing you because you were beyond their leash range

BRAVO KOJIMA

>>16195059

>random hobo

Worse than that, it was his best man. Dude serves you with all his heart, and BB rewards him by stealing his identity and letting him deal with Skullface's shit.

>>16194927

>it's the game's fault if I cheese things like a little shit

That mission is great and the crumbling village is full of routes, I enjoyed it a lot on my first playthrough. Same sneaking around Code Talker's mansion to choke all soldiers: you're not supposed to know the fastest way to him, and cheese it in a minute.

Don't act like a few tents and some towers in Camp Omega were comparable: it's the GZ underground which is literally an L shaped corridor.

>fulton out a walker gear

>cant deploy a walker gear

>>16195540

you can send them on "deployment missions" which unironically have a better story than TPP

>>16195540

You can deploy D Walker, there's no real reason to send out any other walker gears.

>>16195190

>a third of the game's content was on cassette tapes for you to listen to between checkpoints and bases

Shit tons of games have books, notes to read or audio tapes, they're a nice addition to the rest of the game. When almost all of your plot content comes from audio logs it's just lazy as fuck. Shit was barely acceptable in PW.

>soldiers you fultoned earlier that day are now running side-ops, for currency, resources, vehicles, and more

Fultoning just makes sneaking too easy, soldiers are just nameless stats in the end. Mindless harvesting is no fun and repetitive as fuck. As annoying as extracting was in Portable Ops at least it offered some challenge.

>your science & research department unlocks new gadgets, weapons, cybernetics and all sorts of 80's goodness

Wow a research tree how awesome.

>your intel department is your wiki, pointing out things near your location, analyzing, translating and general info dumps

Too bad it's almost all pointless shit.

>your FOBs are at risk of infiltration by rival players, so you are always at the ready to intervene

FOBs were killed by buying currency with real money.

TPP felt like a really lazy rehash of PW which itself was a rehash of Portable Ops.

>>16195693

>Shit was barely acceptable in PW.

None of the Tapes in PW were as offensive as 40 minutes of pseudo-science bullshit with volbachia and male to female.

At absolute worst you got a tutorial for an enemy unit that was nowhere near as formidable as in the tape, geography tapes have some cool facts around the area, the "wow Che was so great, you can be like him, big boss" were fairly annoying though.

>>16195693

>Wow a research tree how awesome.

That is a direct downgrade in clarity and usability from peace walker

>PW has 5 tiers, you can see 5 columns, with 3 each

>The phantom stain has 15 or 20 grades, but you can only see 3x3 at a time.

To me it didn't feel like a rehash, it felt like someone carefully studied entirety of PW and spent years fucking every single aspect of it up, but it's okay because nobody played peace walker as proven by both user and media reviews.

>>16195737

>it felt like someone carefully studied entirety of PW and spent years fucking every single aspect of it up

Funny you should mention it. The moment I started playing TPP I immediately wished I was playing PW instead. And when Sahelanthropous showed up in mission 31 and it became clear you could only rocket launcher spam it to death all I kept thinking was "oh great, they copied the worst part of PW: bullet sponge bosses" (except this time even more horrible because you have to fulton in a rocket launcher every time you die to it and have to restart the fight)

TPP should've just been mission based like PW and without the open world, consisting of larger mission areas that you can approach from different angles like camp omega, that you drop in to every time you start a mission, without any need to travel in between them. A large set of separate map locations like Nova Braga airport and OKB 0 (plus the other shit cut out like the russian area) would've been better than having to drive between outposts consisting of a tent and a cuckshed for an hour while listening to rebel yell for the millionth time. It would have been a great way of combining the open ended gameplay that a big world provides with the meticulous level design MGS is known for. Unfortunately Kojimbo had other plans.

>>16195790

Sahelantropus is killable with a 9mm handgun, because unlike Zeke or Peace Walker it doesn't bypass the limitations to have certain guns just not work against big mecha with added time pressure with nuclear launch (peace walker and Zeke leave nuclear launch mode when enough damage is dealt during countdown)

Also, sahelantropus is supposed to have side feature of Peace Walker (walk into enemy territory and blow yourself up) as it's main feature except it cannot walk or do anything without literal magic.

>>16195790

> Nova Braga airport

It doesn't even feature a runway, and it's hillarious that in mission "war economy" "red hot (from tension) airport" in Japanese the nigger and his friend want that shithole to be a hub for gun trade.

Mission 31 Skullface is called ethnic cleansing in Japanese

>>16195815

>except it cannot walk or do anything without literal magic.

I had assumed that it could do it without magic, but to get it to do that Skullface needed Huey.

What I want to know is if Huey was an asshole by choice or if he was being controlled by patriot conditioning.

>>16195853

>What I want to know is if Huey was an asshole by choice or if he was being controlled by patriot conditioning.

It's difficult to say, but even in PW he immediately betrays Coldman once he encounters snake. I think he's just a coward who sides with who he thinks can protect him best.

>>16195867

Didn't coldman push him down some stairs or some shit?

>>16195878

Yeah, and Coldman also wanted to launch an actual nuke to prove that Peace Walker works, and as his back up plan had Peace Walker transmit false data to NORAD to show why humanity needs an AI for MAD to work, unfortunately president, VP, and few other people in Chain of Command were on SALT 2 talks at the time so the decision to launch a retaliatory strike fell onto some literal-who jew.

Skullface's plan was a rehash of Volgin's plan, except Shagohod actually worked

>>16195878

Yep. Don't remember the context but I think the point still stands. He betrays MSF even though they treat him nice, and then he betrays XOF (though skullface was probably not nice to him at all).

>>16195917

audio logs are the worst form of story telling and paul neurath should hang

>>16195922

<BUT MUH DORK SOOLS!!!

>>16195954

100% fuck the disabled, that includes you.

>>16195972

It gets funnier.

>dude sex

>overpraised plagiaristic hack.

mitochondria

<<16195980

I don't disagree with your sentiment, but you have to be trolling when you say it alongside an image of Adam Jensen. If you're serious the irony is clearly lost on you.

>>16195972

>>16196004

The fuck are you doing with your quotes you retard?

>>16196103

Peace Walker will be 9 years old in April.

at what point is it ok to just drop the game and go watch all the cutscenes on youtube? these missions are literally all the same