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File: 337d180460be4c5⋯.jpg (98.15 KB, 1137x640, 1137:640, FB_IMG_1550709906725.jpg)

5dde09  No.16154348

How many tournaments have you won so far? How many characters do you have in Elite Smash? What are your predictions for the remaining 4 fighters and Joker's moveset?

2b92d8  No.16154391

File: 3171be0c936a03b⋯.webm (11.03 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, The Definitive Argument F….webm)

I haven't won any tournaments because I've been playing other shit. I've played Smash on and off though. I like Piranha Plant and I've decided to add him to my mains list.

I don't have any characters in Elite Smash because I fucking suck fat cocks

The next fighter isn't going to be Erdrick. I'm not saying this because I don't want him in, I'm sure there's Dragon Quest fans who'd be happy if he did get in, but he's not getting in. All the "evidence" is circumstantial.

The next fighter is Wonder Red. Calling it now.

Joker's moveset will likely have several different Personas that alter the effects his attacks have and none of them will be Mara.

I just hope Bandana Dee gets in. You fuckers can't make the "hat goomba" argument anymore now that PP is in.


b60eda  No.16154399

File: 71746a0b3181d2e⋯.png (1.44 MB, 1000x1394, 500:697, __hakurei_reimu_and_kirisa….png)

touhou for smash!


a95c95  No.16154411

I wish Master Chief from Halo, Steve from Minecraft, Sans from Undertale and Doomguy from DOOM gets in, that would be epic!


2b92d8  No.16154415

>>16154399

I'd shit my fucking pants if that happened and it actually could.

>>16154411

Nice double dubs and bait. Lumping Doomguy in with those characters is a good tactic.

Though in all honesty the only character that would truly piss me off if he got in Smash is Waluigi


1fa4a3  No.16154430

The only characters I'd want in the game are Doomguy and Banjo. Otherwise, I've just been playing PM with buddies, and not much with Smash Ultimate. Such a fun game.

>>16154348

Why is Joker's mom there


5dde09  No.16154431

>>16154411

The prospects of any of them getting in is actually very high. I think a Western invasion might happen with DLC or Smash 6.


8c7870  No.16154440

File: 79fe22afb784fc1⋯.png (182.9 KB, 650x473, 650:473, Distressed.png)

I've only played in a couple Smash 4 tournaments at a local game store and got my ass handed to me both times. First fight I SD'd because I was shaking and panicking so much. Second time I was so close to beating a Dedede, he was at over 150%, but he got me in a pseudo-wobble I couldn't get out of and up-tilted me out of the tournament.

4 fighters

>Worms from Team17

>Steve/Alex from Minecraft

>Heavy from TF2

>Rayman

I regret nothing


2b92d8  No.16154447

>>16154440

>Heavy from TF2

Considering Microsoft is apparently gonna be bringing their streaming service to the Switch and thus porting a shitton of Xbox games to it, I wouldn't be surprised if one day out of nowhere Valve announces Steam for Switch.


353fbe  No.16154498

File: 64b6e76a0a0a273⋯.jpg (71.7 KB, 679x679, 1:1, there is only suffering.jpg)

>>16154348

>How many tournaments have you won so far?

Zero

>How many characters do you have in Elite Smash?

Zero


0e9953  No.16154527

>How many tournaments have you won so far?

None. I never leave the house and don't have transportation to.

>How many characters do you have in Elite Smash?

Zero. I had Pac-Man in elite but not anymore. I hate this online system, it just stresses me out.

>What are your predictions for the remaining 4 fighters and Joker's moveset?

Rayman, Geno, Banjo, and Welkin

Don't give a shit about Joker.


8bc780  No.16154660

>>16154391

There's no fucking way DQ Hero isn't in because I called it the moment smash was revealed and discussion started and I want to be right.

Jokes aside, "Brave" is on its own enough and I'd be saying confirmed even if it was the only reason to speculate. This should be obvious to people posting on the most popular alternative to an old Japan-centric imageboard, but Brave (capital B) is the way that most Japanese translate Yuusha/勇者; this is a synonym for brave as in 'brave man'. To find 'Brave' in the files is gibberish without context, but while Yuusha/勇者 is a very Chinese phrase and antiquated and it was not in common parlance for a long time, it is also sometimes used to translate 'Hero'. This is not actually the most appropriate word for hero, that honor is Eiyu/英雄, which is more like 'great man'. However, as English (the language) first invaded Japan and the idea of a western hero was conveyed and the first dictionaries were penned, for some reason it was interpreted as 'brave man' as one might have seen in military histories, so when referring to western heroes Yuusha became predominant; this was quickly corrected.

What does shit translations/localization have to do with Dragon Quest, anyway?

Westaboos. Always Westaboos. When the blatant westaboos at Enix&co first set out to make their take on RPGs set in not!Europe and not!DnD, "the hero" was made "the Yuusha/勇者", a terming that has stuck ever since. The franchise and the Yuusha/勇者 are inseparable at this point; its massive influence in Japan reinvigorated the phrase and while use is more common/dilute these days, were you to ask an old enough Jap why they wanted to use it, they'd point towards Dragon Quest. This is to the point that the japanese wiki article for Brave as Yuusha actually cites Dragon Quest as the primary use.

This is just from Brave, with all of the other things in favor there's no way a DQ hero isn't in, Erdrick or not.

So far as 'Braves' go, Wonder Red or any of the other Wonders have literally never been referred to as a '勇者' in official content. While searching for such a thing I found more Dragon Quest content on accident. Let the chances of that sink in.

Also, the other 3 should be Captain Rainbow, policeman/woman with matching chained mechas, and James Bond, ideally revealed in quick succession for maximal asspain.


fc3d6c  No.16154851

>Tournaments

>Not enough, although I think I'm getting close with Roy

Wonder Red

Ray MK III

Saki

Isaac

Spring-Man

Banjo

Joker will be a hybrid between Shulk and Pokemon Trainer where he will switch between Arsene, Jack Frost and Pixie. When he attacks properties and certain actions will change depending on what Persona is being used. For example Joker will get a better recovery if Pixie is being used, however the recovery won't be as good if Jack Frost is active. Although you change persona's by holding down the special move button rather than pressing down special. pressing the special button will initiate Ehia, Bufu or Zio, side special will be a few pistol shots, down special is the mask attack where Joker would throw a character and then rip off their face. Obviously he does not rip off their actual face in this game.


fc3d6c  No.16154857

>>16154660

Yes, and Joker is also named Jack.


973c7c  No.16154892

I don't play online because it requires a godlike internet connection. Otherwise I'd wipe the floor with everyone here. Including YOU


2a4727  No.16154924

File: 83eff2d3e91af94⋯.gif (3.02 MB, 113x125, 113:125, khmjhu.gif)

>>16154348

I already ditched it and went back to PM so i can do some actual combos.


8bc780  No.16154929

File: 84d89fcf51bcadc⋯.png (180.3 KB, 375x400, 15:16, erdrick.png)

>>16154857

He's not, which is exactly my point - "Brave" is not a name, it's a heavily associated title. Jack as in Jack Frost, who is the series placeholder and internal reference for Joker, because they don't intend to include more SMT-related characters if they do use Jack as the series icon and only include a Persona character I look forward to the shitstorm. Brave as in Brave, which is the DQ series' most likely placeholder (the Hero icon from the first three games, pic related) and internal reference for whichever hero or hero(es) they include. If anything the fact they use Brave instead of Slime may mean that there's some gimmick or concept to the DLC that meant the Braves were more important than mascot padding.

It's good to keep in mind that "Piranha Plant" for example is not in fact named "Packu", which is its internal reference, and the other characters follow this pattern of nicknames, so it's unlikely Joker or the DQ Hero would be an exception.

>>16154921

Yeah, they just picked out some 100% random code name despite not doing that for any of the other characters and it just happens to have immense relevance to a series that just happens to be coming to Switch in a big Enix partnership at a time convenient for the next direct, if anything such an obvious allusion to Dragon Quest is because it shares the letters 'DQ' and we're getting an ice cream cone in the wake of the great fast-food:video-game merger.


4dc042  No.16154958

>What are your predictions for the remaining 4 fighters

Some guy from Dragon Quest, some guy from the new Fire Emblem game, the other two from devs Nintendo is currently buttering up. They've been working with Platinum a lot lately so i expect a character from one of their games.


277fff  No.16154974

>What are your predictions for the remaining 4 fighters and Joker's moveset?

Erdrick or some other Square Enix character (not geno) followed by the obligatory Fire Emblem shilling character before the next fire emblem is even out and two more characters added solely for shilling upcoming switch games


3bae6f  No.16154998

>>16154929

Be careful about getting your hopes too high on the reveal. Data mine also says proportions are close to Toon Link. Which we're looking at a chibi hero or someone else more on model. The other two candidates are Wonder Red and a Bravely series character. Possibly Edea having the most appearances in the series so far.


2b92d8  No.16155002

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16154998

I'd be okay with a Bravely rep if only because that would mean this song is in Smash.

I haven't even played BD, all I've heard is that it was censored in the west, but this song is really good


b8167b  No.16155003

File: 4f8ac5da59b4a81⋯.png (70.03 KB, 598x650, 23:25, jane.png)

Looks like Joker has a female alt costume.


2b92d8  No.16155009

>>16155003

This obviously means the inevitable P5 re-release will have a FeMC, which is another conversation onto itself.

Either that or it's the drag outfit from the dancing spinoff which would be hilarious but I don't think that's very likely


8bc780  No.16155015

>>16154998

I would be happier with a Bravely character honestly, it's just that I've been calling it for fucking ages and DQ is such an underhonored franchise. That and mounting evidence fuels the hope.


3bae6f  No.16155041

We could maybe see Airy make an appearance as a stage hazard. Which means more Airy lewds hopefully.


e76602  No.16155060

File: 2d99892235127df⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 1.99 MB, 1024x683, 1024:683, ClipboardImage.png)

I haven't played at Smash tournaments because this game sucks.

I have three characters in elite and my predictions for the remaining four DLC characters are in pic related if Joker is anything to go by.


52277e  No.16155189

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16155003

>his dlc crossdressing outfit comes to mind

I suddenly have a bad feeling about this…


2b92d8  No.16155195

>>16155189

This would cause a lot of butthurt if it actually happened, so I hope it does.


e76602  No.16155268

>>16154391

>You fuckers can't make the "hat goomba" argument anymore now that PP is in.

Yes we can because Piranha Plant is an absolute shit character and so is Bandana Dee. Generic enemies do not belong in this game and this is already pushing the game's cancerousness past the point of no return.

Fuck Erdrick, fuck Bandana Dee, fuck Joker, fuck Sakurai and fuck you.


3bae6f  No.16155283

>>16155195

Well Atlus is pro castration now.


8bc780  No.16155290

>>16155283

Everyone in their right mind is pro castration, I mean just look at e76602


b8167b  No.16155292

>>16155189

Why is everybody at Atlas a giant fag?


3db138  No.16155319

>>16154391

Considering Erdrick was leaked along with joker, and several other games, along with his stage mementos the next character is definitely Erdrick. Mementos was also recently datamined. Erdrick is real.


52277e  No.16155328

File: c8156b888bf0428⋯.jpg (133.83 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, PeteyPiranha_Brawl.jpg)

>>16155268

Yea. It should have been Petey Piranha instead of generic mario enemy #37, but let's face it. That Petey guy was just too damn big to be playable.


380b44  No.16155341

>>16155268

>this is already pushing the game's cancerousness past the point of no return

This game already drove off a cliff with Cloud and the addition of unfitting characters like Joker and a fucking plant is just thermite on the burning corpse. If they announce Goku no one should be surprised because they've added more retarded shit into the game.


7d8a0b  No.16155348

>>16155268

The piranha plant has style and panache. You're too tasteless to know a good character when you see it.


bd2d56  No.16155359

>>16155341

Piranha plant is a good character. Way better than another fucking sword fighter at least.


1ca8ac  No.16155402

I bet they put in some characters from Astral Chain. Probably why the game already has a release date and it's not that far out.


bcfbea  No.16155503

>>16155341

This game already drove off a cliff with Brawl.


fc3d6c  No.16158214

>>16155359

You mean Fire Emblem character, right? Sword characters aren't the problem, it's the overabundance of Fire Emblem.


fc3d6c  No.16158215

>>16155503

I'd argue that WiiU DLC and Ultimate take it to a level beyond Snake and Sonic, but that could be just me.


bd2d56  No.16158246

>>16158214

Fire Emblem characters are alright, as long as there's variety in play styles. Give me a spear character, an archer, or mage without a fucking sword. Every single Fire Emblem character in the game has a goddamn sword (Corrin and Robin have interesting enough movesets at least). It would be cool to have a full archer character, or a full mage who only fights with magic.

I don't give a shit about series representation. I want interesting and unique characters that are fun to use and interesting to fight against.


6ed45f  No.16158261

>>16155189

this is the only option I would accept at this point


f38a9f  No.16158276

File: 3884e9aa68bcae1⋯.gif (2.9 MB, 290x189, 290:189, 1346190321940.gif)

I just realized Fox can not only act out of side b but also up b recover. Meanwhile Ganon/Falcon still don't recover their double jump after down B. Fuck anyone who says this game is balanced.


5b6f9c  No.16158531

>>16158276

Fox's side b can be stopped by a shield so easy shield grab punish. Play wolf if you like your side b into freefall.


5c02b8  No.16158542

>>16158276

"Balance" and "Meta" are the bane of fun.


7377b7  No.16158633

>>16155328

>Wanting a giant faggot in diapers that looks like it belongs to Nintendo's era of pandering to infants instead of the character which has been around since the early days

I bet you're the kind of faggot who would prefer them to have Baby Bowser only instead of the koopa kids, too.


64ab4f  No.16158757

>>16155009

>New FeMC

What romances will this FeMC have, outside of the obvious Ryuji, Yosuke, and Mishima? Will she be able to /ss/ the GET SMOKED kid?


8c7870  No.16158767

File: fc0d7469abf1972⋯.jpg (2.12 KB, 107x124, 107:124, Anger.jpg)

Bowser needs a fucking nerf now

>can KO in literally 3 hits

>most of his moves will always go through, no matter if you hit him or not, there is no hitstun

>down throw can FUCK RIGHT OFF


5dde09  No.16158770

>>16158531

Also, Ivysaur's down air is a good humping tool against Star Fox up b. You can dair onto the ledge and gimp them.


5dde09  No.16158771

>>16158770

*gimping


1f71b3  No.16158789

>>16155189

I'm perfectly ok with this just because it would be fun and trigger /v/


06f8c7  No.16158818

File: 91f5c01e3dd51d2⋯.jpg (24.91 KB, 680x680, 1:1, The new president of NOA.jpg)

>>16158767

Have you considered; Gittin' Gud.

t. Bowser main.


8c7870  No.16158873

>>16158818

have you been fighting any ZSS lately, specifically one with an orange outfit?

because if you have you can go drown in shit


5240b7  No.16158881

File: 30cb5630808014d⋯.jpeg (21.09 KB, 450x641, 450:641, 3957f4ae6f404dd3dd1464ffd….jpeg)

If there isnt an SNK rep, I ain't buying any of the DLC.

I'm also upset they removed game and watches bucket slide. I spent an entire afternoon getting that down and got it down to muscle memory.


80f388  No.16158891

File: 892bfd30fe63a85⋯.jpg (107.55 KB, 339x540, 113:180, Scientific Horse Pussy.jpg)

>>16154348

>smash bros thread

Is this the right place to dump all the furry porn?


0f19db  No.16158906

File: 7945325db02fa68⋯.jpg (102.39 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, stats.jpg)

File: 620a5ad5e620468⋯.jpg (93.6 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, piranha plant.jpg)

File: 1b469f960a07320⋯.jpg (141.05 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, It hurt itself in its conf….jpg)

Is this all of the stage songs and mii outfits in the game? I want to make sure I got them all.

I tried searching this elsewhere, but either my googlefu is weak or I'm retarded. Most results give me a count of all the music in the game (which is obviously more than just the stage songs)

I have completed pretty much every possible challenge the game has offered me, so I can't imagine any other ways to unlock potential content aside from Amiibos, which I suppose could contain outfits for the Miiggers.


53e6d2  No.16158925

>>16155328

Generic enemies have more versatility than bosses when they're from a setting where those generic enemies have multiple traits applied to them as the series progresses. Just from SMB1 to SMB3 you get enough to work with to make a generic Piranha Plant a viable character. What can you get out of Petey to make an entire moveset? He's not like Sonic where you can get away with the same move with different input since he's the mascot character of an entire company.


b8167b  No.16159051

>>16155341

>there will never be a new character that isn't some reddit meme or shilling some old third party port again


641468  No.16159133

File: c4ba50591b35f3f⋯.png (376.73 KB, 611x367, 611:367, w980495804958094.png)

>>16154348

>What are your predictions for the remaining 4 fighters

They're all going to be from franchises that aren't already in Smash. A list of possible franchises that come to mind are

>Adventure Island/Wonderboy

>Banjo-Kazooie

>Blaster Master

>Dead or Alive

>Dragon Quest

>Ghosts 'N Goblins

>Killer Instinct

>Kingdom Hearts

>Ninja Gaiden

>Rayman

>An Indie Game

You can rule anything out that's owned by Sony since it doesn't look like they're interested in doing anything with Nintendo as well as anything that's never been on a Nintendo platform before. I can honestly see the next reps being Microsoft, Ubisoft, and Indie related.

>>16155189

>Joker gets his female disguise but Cloud doesn't


9cfd4e  No.16159201

>>16154348

>How many tournaments have you won so far?

None.

> How many characters do you have in Elite Smash?

Autism drives me to get Isabelle there before anyone else, so see above.


bcfbea  No.16159287

I want my smash 64 retroarch netplay, dammit!


63ef86  No.16159369

It's gonna be Rayman, Heihachi, Phoenix Wright, and possibly Ryu (from Ninja Gaiden, made to be more like an homage to the NES original).


7c4ae6  No.16159375

>>16155268

Imagine being this assblasted that a FUCKING PLANT had more potential for an interesting and fun move set then your waifu


afc73a  No.16159426

>>16158633

>being this underaged

<not knowing they're bowser jr. and the koopalings

Just fucking kill yourself.


e76602  No.16159482

File: 2650d81ae58086c⋯.png (2.03 MB, 1000x1000, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16159375

>Piranha Plant more fun than Earthworm Jim

Sounds like you need to Eat Dirt, chode smoker.


438316  No.16159629

File: 763fc0fc9beafb6⋯.png (606.35 KB, 600x479, 600:479, 763fc0fc9beafb61fe851a53b1….png)

ROUTINELY EXPECTED AUTISM LIST

Playable Characters-

Newcomers:

>Excitebiker

>Takamaru

>Paper Mario

>Isaac (Golden Sun)

>Heracross

>Eggplant Wizard

>Masked Link

>Ganon (Link to the Past, etc)

>Tingle

>Arvis

>Ephraim

>Wario (Wario Land moveset)

>Dixie Kong

Third Party:

>Banjo-Kazooie

>Battletoads

>Rayman

>Goemon

>Bubble Bobble

>DoomGuy (DoomSlayer)

>Kunio-Kun

>Earthworm Jim

>Solaire

>Travis Touchdown

>Jack (Madworld)

Wouldn't Be Opposed To:

>Marx

>Saki Amamiya

>Ray Mk III

>Chibi-Robo (Assist-Worthy)

>Dante (Devil May Cry)

>Crash

>Spyro

>Ryu Hayabusa

>Bill Rizer (Contra)

>Quote (Cave Story)

>Cecil or Bartz (Classic Final Fantasy)

>Lloyd Irving (Tales Of)

>Erdrick / Loto

>Viewtiful Joe

>Amaterasu (Okami)

>Pyramid Head (Assist-Worthy)

>Leon Kennedy

>Kratos

>Ratchet & Clank

>Jak & Daxter

>Klonoa (Assist-Worthy)

>Master Chief

>Gordon Freeman

>Geralt (Non-Video Game Character Representative)

Top 3:

>Banjo-Kazooie

>Paper Mario

>Wario (Wario Land moveset)


e76602  No.16159632

File: 95cf6ebcb945c94⋯.png (4.52 KB, 303x243, 101:81, wariothumb.png)

>>16159629

>Wario Land Wario

You have exquisite taste anon.


4b277c  No.16159685

File: ca2d11ba5e062f3⋯.jpg (243.26 KB, 800x440, 20:11, 14_Ganondorf03_Large.jpg)

File: 2c357b1e5866197⋯.png (167.31 KB, 309x478, 309:478, Ganondorf_(Twilight_Prince….png)

>Sakurai takes a floating wizard and turns him into a fisticuffs brawler

>In the next game replaces him with this swordsman version

>But doesnt give him any sword moves and keeps him as a fisticuffs brawler

>two games later they give him sword moves

>But change his costume back into his floating wizard version instead of leaving it as the swordsman

I dont fucking understand.


438316  No.16159706

File: 5d7c3f26a83b528⋯.jpg (500.02 KB, 1275x1920, 85:128, 5d7c3f26a83b528718bc67c91b….jpg)

ROUTINELY EXPECTED AUTISM LIST PART 2

Additional Content

Stages: (Aside from Newcomers)

>Submerged Castle (Pikmin 2)

>Inside the Dungeon Man (Earthbound)

>StarTropics (C-Island)

>Marvelous: Another Treasure Island (Camp)

>Tetris

>Dr. Mario

>The Arcades (Q-Bert, Frogger, Space Invaders, Joust)

>Maniac Mansion

>Mole Mania

>Virtual Boy

>Golden Axe

>Wario's Castle (Wario Land 2)

>Sarasaland

>Crocodile Isle (Swamp Area or Themepark) (Better DK Stages in general)

>SimCity

Assists:

>Chibi-Robo

>Rick, Kine, & Coo (Animal Friends)

>Gooey

>Geno + Mallow

>Plok!

>Dig Dug

>Crono (Chrono Trigger)

>Ryu (Breath of Fire 1 or 2)

>Master Higgins (Adventure Island)

>Strider Hiryu

>Sophia the 3rd (Blaster Master)

>Arthur + Firebrand

>Sparkster (Rocket Knight)

>Fulgore

>Scorpion (Playable-Worthy)

>Conker

>Pyramid Head

>Klonoa

>Glover

>Heavy (Team Fortress 2)

>Marina (Mischief Makers)

>Haggar (Final Fight)

>F-Type (Stunt Race FX)

>Sutte Hakkun

>Lemmings

Needs Representation Somehow:

>Starcraft or Warcraft or Diablo (Starcraft 64)

>Harvest Moon

>Monkey Ball

>NiGHTS

>Jet Set Radio

>Double Dragon

>Streets of Rage

>Tekken

>Advance Wars / Famicom Wars

>Tactics Ogre

>Tomb Raider

>Secret of Mana (Maybe?)

Has Potential For Inclusion (Iconic Overall)

>Castle of Illusion (Non-Video Game Origin)

>Monkey Island

>Elder Scrolls

>Prince of Persia


438316  No.16159770

Autism List, Bonus Content

Ideas or Changes:

Mario

>Forward Smash, Lazy Shell from Mario RPG

>Side-B, after waving his cape he can put it on and go into a divebomb with it.

>Neutral Air, replaced with the spin from Mario Galaxy

>Up-B could be changed instead of "generic jump"

Luigi

>Dash Attack is replaced with his knee slide from the All-Star version of Super Mario World

>Side-B, ignites himself with thunder (referencing Superstar Saga), this move could be replaced or changed entirely

>Down Air could be replaced with his wobbly legs animation he has in games like Super Mario Bros 3. GBA so is Down-B seems more unique.

Toon Link

>Toon Link's 2nd jump looks similar to a jump performed by a Roc's Feather (or he could have 3 jumps)

>Dash Attack is similar to the animation of the Pegasus Boots

>Ezlo acts as his grab instead of the hookshot

>Neutral-B becomes the Magic Hammer, does heavy damage to shields and can spike airborne opponents but is slow

>Side-B, becomes Fire Rod sending a moving pillar of flame

>Down-B, becomes Deku Leaf. On the ground it sends a gust of air.


9a4bf8  No.16159990

>tournaments

I don't play any.

>Elite Smash

King Dedede. I don't really play other characters, but I think I could get anyone there. It's pretty easy to get into Elite. I had Ridley and some others there, but I didn't use them for some time and they lost their status.

Fuck all the Pichu faggotry. With how weird Dedede's aerial hitboxes are and with how slow everything he does is, this faggot pokemon is a fucking nightmare. Thankfully almost nobody plays him anymore.

Let's not forget Ness, fuck Ness. I can beat him, but I never have any fun doing so unless he's really retarded and I can fuck him up hard.

Also I'd fuck Link and the fire emblem guys.

>>16159629

>Lloyd Irving

If there'll be a Tales representative, it's more likely to be Yuri Lowell. He's so popular, he got removed from Tales popularity polls in Japan because he was always winning. With the recent rerelease of Yuri's game on Switch, he seems even more obvious as the choice.


3456fc  No.16160146

>>16154892

I could fuck you up bitch


7c4ae6  No.16162571

>>16159482

>that's his pick

oh sweetie i'm so sorry


52277e  No.16162618

File: 3680e56688230bd⋯.jpg (68.86 KB, 960x540, 16:9, laterhomo.jpg)

>>16159990

<Also I'd fuck Link and the fire emblem guys.


05a480  No.16162934

>>16159685

you're talking about a guy who refuses to give Bowser and DK their actual voices due to some weird personal bullshit and made Luigi some weirdo.


7c4ae6  No.16163076

>>16159685

astute observation! we should also remove zelda's phantom because the zelda she's designed after didn't have one. We should also remove the spells because canonically only Link used those.


e76602  No.16163104

File: 8e0e83839e30dd3⋯.jpg (25.6 KB, 325x330, 65:66, dededesmug.jpg)

>>16159990

Greetings fellow Dedebro. Don't forget Dedede can inhale and spit back all of Ness's projectile bullshit. Next time he tries to zone you out with PK fire and PK thunder suck it up and spit it back in his face. I killed a Ness with his own thunder and made him really mad.


c08edb  No.16163133

I dunno I'm getting kind of bored


1f71b3  No.16163136

>>16159685

I don't mind Zelda having Farore's Wind, Din's Fire and Nayru's Love, but I think the Phantom Knight is a stretch. They should give her Impa bodyguard assist if anything, since that's more generic to most zeldas. They could've given her a skin for each zelda (so SS zelda gets SS impa, OOT zelda gets OOT impa, and ST zelda gets a phantom knight). Would've made more sense.

Also her fair and bair need to be remade into something else. Zelda is a glass canon with gimpy moves. Give her some reliable, consistent moves for a floaty character such as her. Meanwhile mewtwo, another floaty, gets more wait, better lingering, and more weight on aerials.


899038  No.16163544

File: d65df20a3f35921⋯.png (104.07 KB, 300x250, 6:5, пепе збожеволів.png)

KYS WAIFGARCH


2815c5  No.16163891

No tournaments, I get too salty to do this shit in public. Everyone I like to use has been Elite for a long while, so about 15 characters. Ditched matchmaking to make Battle Arenas instead, where I'm never subject to shitty rules or shitty stages, and I get rematches all the time.


a40252  No.16163895

>>16163136

Zelda's fair and bair are the best bits about her. I'm all for giving her a stronger kit, but those aerials are the entire reason I play the character. The fact that she is a tricky glass canon is what makes her fun.


1f71b3  No.16164206

>>16163895

>>16163895

They should at least increase the lingering sourspot slightly and reduce the FAF on both of those


1f71b3  No.16164223

Predictions for 3.0.0

>More Game modes : Smash run, another world of light DLC story mode, break the targets, event challenges, stage maker, etc

>Joker gameplay. Can wall jump and is fast. Crossdress alt skin

Buffs to players least used in Elite Smash (I can see very slow motion aerials like kirby's uair getting buffed like incineroar did, better sucking effect on multi hits like some jabs so the enemy doesnt just shield mid rapid jab, fixing landing fair/bair hitbox disappearing when landing like the belmonts, etc)

>You have to buy the entire pass if you want joker at the beginning, but you can buy it later alone. Theyll make you wait longer if you want to buy joker alone

>smash direct in March

>3.0.0 comes out in April

>More music from more games for free people didn't expect

>Erdrick reveal at the end


5dde09  No.16164228

>>16164223

They'll also nerf characters with relatively high winrates and dominate tournaments. Ike, Lucina, Olimar and Wolf mains better start praying.


1f71b3  No.16164295

>>16164228

Fuck Wolf, to be honest. That character has disgusting frame data killing with tilts at 110

Ike has counter picks, so does lucina and Olimar. Wolf needs a damage and knockback nerf if he's gonna have sheik's aerial frame data.


ebcf55  No.16164362

File: 7aae9898dea90e0⋯.png (5.31 MB, 3200x2400, 4:3, valentines_day_2019__2___s….png)

>ywn romantically copulate with Sm4sh Samus

feels bad man


3bae6f  No.16164565

>>16164223

>Smash Run.

Smash Run existed on 3DS because they re-used the SSE models from Brawl, Kid Icarus Uprising models, and a few X/Y models from Pokémon to make it happen. World of Light only has fighters and spirits. I don't think Smash Run will happen because of the insane amount of work needed to rework all those assets into HD by the time 3.0 drops. Smash Run and Stage Builder, as they use the same toolset for level generation, would have to be stand alone DLC to make it work for Sm4.5h. If anything a shoehorned boss rush mode is more likely.


1f71b3  No.16164678

>>16164362

epic post anon. so epic. haha get it cause samus is really sexually attractive haha


c26e6f  No.16164685

>>16164678

Not that that post isn’t worthless, but how do you even browse /v/ if posts like that upset you?


06e95a  No.16164697

File: 06040051053fe85⋯.png (266.32 KB, 776x776, 1:1, Tabuu trophy.png)

File: 8df6647cd48ea9f⋯.png (247.37 KB, 720x685, 144:137, Tabuu Wings.png)

File: c8f9db9cee3bcd6⋯.webm (3.37 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Tabuu - Super Smash Bros.….webm)

>>16164565

I'd sooner just have them port over Melee's Adventure mode. Don't even add any other stages, just give a 1:1 of it. I want to traverse hyrule temple with ridley, run down big blue with sonic or wario's bike, and generally just enjoy the mini story at my leisure.

World of light left me feeling empty and, if anything, wishing Tabuu was converted to playable.


5f7bb7  No.16164711

File: 102ada639675ebb⋯.jpg (74.44 KB, 796x558, 398:279, kirby touhou crossover ga….jpg)

>>16154415

>I'd shit my fucking pants if that happened and it actually could.

They did join nintendo characters before


06e95a  No.16164721

File: 8477c546c763f95⋯.png (107.57 KB, 351x335, 351:335, rage.png)

>>16154348

>How many tournaments have you won so far?

>How many characters do you have in Elite Smash?

>Paying for your internet twice

what a gay.

>What are your predictions for the remaining 4 fighters and Joker's moveset?

Mostly shit. it's all going to be promotional bullshit out of sakurai's hands, so neat things like Tabuu or Machrider are out. My only hopes are things like Wargreymon since Digimon is Bandainamco. However, as said, it'll be promotional bullshit.

>Joker

mostly sword attacks for basic attacks and then persona strikes for specials. Jack Frost will either be part of his moveset or an assist trophy.


e76602  No.16165189

>>16154399

>Gay ass hyper weeb game that's only liked by fujoshits and virgins

No thanks, if this cancer gets in Smash I'm going to fly to North Korea and punch Jong Un in the face to get World War 3 started already.


1f71b3  No.16165476

>>16164685

it doesn't upset me. If it did I wouldn't be browsing it. Anons should still ridicule worthless posts that do not add anything productive to the thread.


3db138  No.16165518

>>16154998

If it's Erdrick they are obviously going to go with his classic design and not his GBC design.


3db138  No.16165521

File: 8d606dc38f1d4ba⋯.png (331.64 KB, 480x480, 1:1, 2389683-wayfarersclothes.png)

>>16165518

Pic didn't post

Sage for doubleposting.


7e05c3  No.16165677

File: 017344fd37a8a82⋯.gif (25.93 KB, 256x192, 4:3, Gantbreakdown1.gif)

Why did they make it so fucking annoying to get all the spirits?

I figured that once I 100%'d story mode and finished all the challenges, I would have unlocked all the artwork and shit. But unfortunately for me (and everyone else that is attempting this) both of those methods together only unlock about half of the 1300 total. For the rest, you need to use the Spirit Board and Summon. You can only get Fighter Spirits by playing classic mode or buying them from the normal shop with gold.

At first it was entertaining, since the board would constantly be populated with ones I needed and I had a shitload of items to refresh it when there weren't. But when there are fewer and fewer for you to get, you start consuming the items faster and faster and eventually you run out. Even when you replace them or buy more, you use them within a couple minutes. Then it's the most FUCKING BORING shit you can imagine.

Because they decided to run the board on a fucking gacha timer you just have to wait for it to repopulate. When it you open it for the first time in a day it seems to try and give you something new that you need, but after that the algorithm stalls you out for hours at a time. You just have to wait like you're playing a shitty mobile freemium game for the content that's arbitrarily locked away from you. The content that there's NO OTHER FUCKING WAY TO GET!

I only have 4 spirits left. I have been leaving the console open every moment I've been free, looking at this fucking spirit board out of the corner of my eye, for a week.

FUCK

WHO THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA


0f19db  No.16166448

>>16165677

Don't dismiss spirits. The board and shops are inclined to give you spirits you do not currently possess. (almost?) Every spirit has a board battle as well, and the game additionally tracks which ones youve actually beaten with a CLEAR flag on its splash screen.

Summoning is a nefarious jewpanese tactic to further fuck up your board progress. You want the little number in the top right of the spirit board to match your SpiritDex count, since thats how many unique spirits you currently own. It includes masters and fighters.

Obviously it wont help you, but I recommend checking the board for unowned spirits, then playing classic mode or something, then back to the board. It wont take much to get new ones as long as you don't go dismissing anything.

Also, if you do intend to actually own all spirits at one time and see that 1303 on the board, youll have to replay certain adventure bosses. Dracula and Marx are enhanceables and only obtainable in the story. Dracula 2nd Form and Rathalos are supports you might've dismissed for being duplicate abilities.


3bae6f  No.16166905

One thing I can be certain. Every spirit documented in game as of right now can never be DLC fighters. I'd love Mythra as a fighter for Season 2 but I know it's not going to happen. And I have a gut feeling all fighters are third party.


3bae6f  No.16166906

>>16166905

>all fighters

*all dlc fighters


e0b615  No.16166921

>>16166905

But then how is Hackurai going to shove another FE character into the game?


0dca79  No.16166936

>>16166921

By using ones from the game that isn't even out yet like he did with smash 4


e0b615  No.16166967

>>16166936

>like with Smash 4

He's done that as far back as Roy (Melee 11/21/2001, FE The Binding Blade 3/29/2002) and there he didn't even need DLC.


b8167b  No.16167224

>>16166905

>Mythra

That whole thing still confuses me. First why censor Mythra's and Camilla's spirits but no other spirits? Second since obviously Nintendo didn't want and didn't know the game was going to leak and people would find out everything early, technically our fist exposure to the censored design was when it was added to Xenoblade 2. The costume is named after Smash and it adds other references to Smash too. I know Sakurai seems to think things like Mii costumes, assists trophies and probably even spirits are the next best thing to playable characters but did they really think they could add a bunch of Smash references in Xenoblade out of nowhere and not expect people to think that Mythra is going to be DLC?


d6db87  No.16167447

>>16155328

My guess it really was Petey but shrinking him like they did with Ridley would have further complications so shrinking Petey would have been pointless as at that point it should be a normal Piranha Plant or a Ptooey.


3bae6f  No.16167860

>>16167224

Censorship was for CREO's new regulation. Second the fact that Mythra's outfit was added to XC2 as free DLC would have hinted Mythra to be more than a spirit. But nope, just advertising by Monolith to tell you to buy Smash Bros.

Either that or Sakurai is holding Mythra off for promoting Fighter's Pass 2.


3b96cb  No.16167964

>>16154411

Steve and Doomguy are actually basically the top picks atm

Most likely it's Erdrick (Dragon Quest guy), Steve or Banjo Kajooie, with Master cheif a long shot for a Microsoft pic (Pretty much locked in now that Xbox live is on switch), Doomguy as a Bethesda pick and Ryu Hayabusa as the last one


3b96cb  No.16167977

>>16155268

Fuck you, Pirahna Plant is better than gay shit like Cloud


3b96cb  No.16167978

>>16158276

Here's a fun one with Falco, Down taunt into Down Smash


ff0b01  No.16168072

Steve has no chance in hell and it you think he is a top pick you are a gibbering autistic nigger baboon.


c97f9d  No.16169023

File: c0e4752c1826782⋯.jpg (21.78 KB, 100x197, 100:197, image.jpg)

>>16166905

Does this mean that Kid being the only Mario Golf spirit confirms Plum?


8c7870  No.16169035

File: a5ccfdacb11bc34⋯.png (326.04 KB, 450x543, 150:181, Help.png)

>going to smash tournament this Saturday

>99.9% chance I'm going to get my ass kicked first round and not win a single game

>it's going to be livestreamed on Twitch so everyone will be able to see me

Advice?


c97f9d  No.16169047

>>16169035

My advice is to play Little Mac so you can win.


c26e6f  No.16169050

>>16169035

Show up in a fur suit and use a pseudonym. You’ll have complete anonymity.


bb67c3  No.16169053

>>16169035

Stop being a fucking autist, stop caring about streaming, and have fun with the game, you stupid fucking GenZ cuck.


8c7870  No.16169063

File: f9e27357c25ec76⋯.jpg (18.08 KB, 226x499, 226:499, Zero Suit Samus.jpg)

>>16169047

my zero suit futafucks little macs in the ass


c2098b  No.16176692

Glad that Melee is finally out of Evo this year.


3bae6f  No.16176709

>>16176692

Evo killed Melee?


5a2655  No.16177163

Gave up playing this game last month. The single-player isn't substantial enough to keep me hooked, can't drag myself along to finish World of Light. And the online play is fucking dogshit unless you have the best internet connection possible, which I don't. I may as well just toss the game in the trash at this point.


a95c95  No.16181549

File: e44ddebfffb7f40⋯.png (152.93 KB, 827x799, 827:799, DzXlHL5UcAYDYpc.png:large.png)

LOL


e76602  No.16186684

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>Persona 5 S coming out on Switch in fall 2019

>halfchan leak predicted it would come out in the first half of 2019 not the second

>Steve leak is kill


afbc75  No.16186977

>>16154348

I won several tournaments. I do not even know how to predict further events with the remaining 4 players … But I tried to bet on similar events and, in general, on eSports bets at https://mid.bet/ The main feature is that these bets are between players (without bookmakers and odds). If you win, you take the loser's bet and vice versa. By the way i do not know what will happen with Joker's moveset..


dfb937  No.16187151

>>16154411

>doomguy

>not Guybrush Threepwood

Gay.


64c379  No.16187206

>3.9 gsp area

>i get assraped a lot causing feelings of inferiority all the time(not because of shitty rank loss)

>realize that since i don't do tournaments i have no reason to git gud

>continues playing and ignoring gitting gud

>see second greentext

yeee


641468  No.16187234

File: e01826d28920234⋯.png (204.69 KB, 392x464, 49:58, Fighter Spirit #4(alt).png)

File: 4ecfe7fb68b6ebd⋯.png (62.59 KB, 250x274, 125:137, Fighter Spirit #4.png)

File: a7aa343ac9ac378⋯.png (165.51 KB, 380x392, 95:98, Spirit #25.png)

File: 9a23139e048256d⋯.png (257.24 KB, 404x520, 101:130, Spirit #133.png)

File: c428fafaf0da59a⋯.png (260.6 KB, 540x376, 135:94, Spirit #77.png)

>>16166905

>Every spirit documented in game as of right now can never be DLC fighters

Says who? Existing fighters appear as multiple spirits, some of which appear in spirits with multiple other fighters. Being a spirit means jack shit.


353fbe  No.16187729

>>16169035

Shower and put on deodorant. Look up the basic rules (on stage choice, etc.) before you go. Contain your autism; just play the game and be prepared to lose graciously.


bb67c3  No.16187769

>>16166905

Piranha Plant was a spirit. Fuck yourself, dumbass.


b98fed  No.16188356

This online is so shit.

>No dedicated servers even with Niggertendo charging for online.

>Instead of the guy with the shit connection getting lag the game just slows down for everyone. If it is constant lag everyone's reaction time is way better than normal completely altering the pace of the game. If the lag is intermittent it fucks with sensitive inputs like certain recoveries lucas and pikachu come to mind.

>Game search options don't include team damage toggle for doubles, latency filtering, or the ability to reliably go to good maps other than battlefield or FD.

>Game preferences don't even matter because it'll just throw it out and match you with the guy that is playing with random hazard stages, items, and lag anyways.

>Game has the audacity to threaten to suspend you from online play if you just suicide to get out of matches like that.

>No way to add the few random people you have decent matches with to the friends list to fight them again later.

The more I play online the more I'm starting to hate this game. We're also going to have to deal with pay to win tier dlc characters if what I've heard about smash 4 is true and "balance" patches breaking everyone else soon too. I really don't see this game getting to an enjoyable state anytime soon.


e76602  No.16188596

>>16166905

You're an idiot.

I do think that anyone who's a spirit right now is unlikely, but that's not BECAUSE they're a spirit. Just from a purely statistical standpoint that's over a thousand characters trying to get into a five-character slot. It's probably not going to go down like that.


8332b5  No.16188630

>>16187234

>People think fucking jpgs are enough to block fighter picks


3bae6f  No.16188665

If I'm wrong I'm wrong. I expect the last four newcomers to be third party IPs that auctioned slots with Nintendo. Maybe some partner studio favors at best.

Would be neat if Nintendo convinced Bamco to borrow KOS-MOS from Xenosaga on behalf of Monolith. I can only guess at this point.


1d1693  No.16188848

>>16181549

it"s over


579dc4  No.16191390

>>16155003

Strange, how come the first "leak" from 5chan/2chan (Not the one with doomguy & steve but another one that came before that "leak") forgot to add that info about this Jade costume while being very detail about Erdrick's info?

>>16186684

>>halfchan leak predicted it would come out in the first half of 2019 not the second

You mean 5chan/2chan? That where that "leak" came from in the first place. Also that "leak" was fake and gay from the beginning with two reveals at E3.


1f71b3  No.16191560

super duper secret leaker here

you heard it here first.

Joker

Erdrick with DQXI hero Skin

Yuri Lowell with LOADS of skins

Ryu Hayabusa

Banjo-Kazooie


e76602  No.16191696

File: 7c01da6f94f315e⋯.gif (40.19 KB, 220x220, 1:1, tenor.gif)

>>16191560

>Generic literal who anime swordfags, cool ninja and Banjo

Yeah I believe it actually.

At least it isn't Steve


97d441  No.16192365

File: febf785f4a1060a⋯.jpeg (119.51 KB, 1130x1300, 113:130, A3B68D97-1184-4CB4-AA5A-1….jpeg)

Do I need to buy a pro controller to enjoy the New Smash, I’m still playing on the WiiU and I’m pissed the 4 controllers I have aren’t backwards compatible…it will cost me $610 to get the Switcharoo…..is it worth it? Will I be filled with regret like when I got the WiiU? Any tips/advice appreciated.


4dc042  No.16192400

>>16191560

I'd be okay with that, at least it isn't sans or steve.


a14ccb  No.16192405

>>16192365

Do you plan on going to tourneys and shit like that? If so, get a Gamecube controller and the adapter that lets you plug it in directly. If not, then the joycons that come with the Switch will suffice.

>>16191560

I'd be fine with this.


4fd44b  No.16192443

>>16192365

Where the fuck do you live? A switch is sold for half that in decent countries, and an adaptater + NGC controllers are sold for less than 50.


9c5440  No.16192446

>>16164685

Nothing about that post indicated anger, you dumb queer


6ea6e9  No.16192543

File: 8980467aa46be6c⋯.png (152.29 KB, 924x293, 924:293, 8bitdo.png)

File: 6658d5866ffc147⋯.png (170.68 KB, 930x543, 310:181, mayflash.png)

>>16192365

There are $20 adapters that emulate the inputs for a wired pro controller on ps4, xbone, and wii u controllers. It only works with one controller at a time though. I bought one of both pics related. The Mayflash is kind of fucky with its wireless mode, but its wired mode works well enough and probably has less input lag than a wireless option. The 8 bit one looks faggy and doesn't have a wired mode, but its wireless mode hasn't had any issues so far and it supports motion controls with a ps4 controller.


05a480  No.16192732

>>16191560

could be worse


641468  No.16192768

File: 572d24958d60078⋯.jpg (26.78 KB, 600x600, 1:1, mii.jpg)

>>16191560

>Yuri

>Not Lloyd


a14ccb  No.16192834

>>16192768

Tales of Vesperia: Definitive Edition was recently released on the Switch. Yuri is more relevant now than Lloyd. Lloyd's costume will probably be DLC, though.


93fe0b  No.16192863

>>16191560

replace Yuri with Doomguy and you're on the money


93fe0b  No.16192864

>>16192443

He likely lives in New Zealand since a switch and smash for me in Australia is $500


4e4a75  No.16192893

>>16192768

Yuri is the purest form of Tales protagonist.


3e4d96  No.16192960

>>16192893

If he was I'd like the series more.


1619f5  No.16195041

>>16192893

>Yuri

More like yaoi. :>)


1fdc52  No.16202051

>>16154391

>>16154660

>>16154929

>>16154974

>>16155015

>>16164223

>>16165518

>>16191560

Friendly reminder that Koichi Sugiyama is a greedy jap that's very protective about his musical works and his license to a point where he's one of the members of jasrac. Friendly reminder that SE only gave Nintendo 2 soundtracks for Cloud's DLC pack in Smash 4 and we haven't got any new FF soundtracks/remixes in Smash Ultimate. Friendly reminder that the "insiders/leakers" didn't know about the first 2 DLC characters for Smash Ultimate but yet somehow confidently knows about the rest of the DLC characters just because of a bunch of 4chan-tier "leaks" from 2chan/5chan said so. So want make you think Erdrick or an DQ rep will be in Smash Ultimate's DLC? Hell IMHO, Sora from Kingdom Hearts has a slightly better chance than Erdrick or an DQ rep will be in Smash Ultimate's DLC and Sora is a SE character.


4dc042  No.16202057

>>16202051

For Sora Ninty would have to deal with Disneys bullshit just to get him in, so i really doubt it.


30f783  No.16202072

Daisy, Peach, Palutena, Falco and Corrin are Elite for me.

I've won two locals, but while my neutral and defense is great, my combo/follow-up game is mediocre. I need to put time in the lab to learn how to make the magic happen. I did do a sick shield break punish by smash throwing Mr. Saturn into the air and using it to jablock into a usmash after a nair, dthrow and bair string. Didn't kill as Wario is heavy but it was fancy af and pure improv. But it gave me an idea for a more thorough punish involving the same principle, except I currently have no clue how to squeeze in a regular turnip in that sequence yet. I know I can pick up turnips with tilts sometimes, maybe that's something to work with?


1fdc52  No.16202074

>>16202057

From what I remember, Sora is more technically owned by SE than Disney but if Ninty wanted to 100% represent all of KH than that would be a problem since Disney is protective of their brand. Although, both Ninty and Disney are in somewhat good terms with each other with that Disney plush game and the Marvel Alliance 3 game exclusive on the Switch. But hey, a man can dream.


5aeadd  No.16202089

>>16187769

>Piranha Plant was a spirit. Fuck yourself, dumbass.

No, only Petey Piranha was.

I'm also a little burned out on the game, I leveled up every single spirit to 99 and have all of them besides Mew. Thinking of getting into Amiibo training and getting an N2 Elite.

My Switch is banned and I don't feel like setting up LAN yet.


8c7870  No.16202762

File: 4e4b8775b564752⋯.jpg (43.08 KB, 500x450, 10:9, Muy Largo.jpg)

went to my first "real" tournament Saturday, played exclusively Zero Suit

>double elimination

>about 80 people showed up

>got a first round bye

>2-0'd a Lucas

>2-0'd a Kirby who then switched to Pokemon Trainer

>2-1'd a Wolf who spaghetti'd his second stock on the last game

>got 0-2'd by a Villager, moved to losers bracket

>got 0-2'd by a fucking OLIMAR because I had no idea how to counter him, just kept taking constant damage until he could get one good hit on me

did a lot better than I thought I would though


1f71b3  No.16202876

>>16202762

kirby counters olimar

so does the belmonts.


8c7870  No.16203742

>>16202876

yeah, after he kicked my ass the first round I was considering going Samus to get a distance advantage, but Samus is shit at close range and I don't know how to play her confidently enough. Looking back going as a heavyweight like Bowser might've been a good counterpick and just charge through all the damage I may have taken.


0f19db  No.16203990

>>16203742

>Looking back going as a heavyweight like Bowser might've been a good counterpick and just charge through all the damage I may have taken.

Against Olimar, I like Incineroar for this reason. You shrug off enough of the damage, and using Revenge against Pikmin is FUN.

>>16202051

Don't forget they didn't have a single FF spirit on top of the bare minimum for music, and Cloud only shows up in two spirit battles that I'm aware of.

Master Edges against 3 or 4 Clouds, and some other battle containing a Bayonetta on Kongo Falls


f32852  No.16204088

>>16202876

Kirby? Seriously? With all of Olimar's disjoints and safe smash attacks I find that pretty hard to believe. Even assuming crouching gets you under some of his toolkit all it takes is a random Purple pikmin and you're dead at 50%.


cf4c59  No.16204233

File: 4aaf065217a0e0e⋯.gif (663.63 KB, 500x375, 4:3, df8.gif)

>>16159706

>submerged castle

I still have nightmares about that shit


e1ec28  No.16204720

>>16202762

Against Olimar you need to get rid of the pikmin he puts on you quickly. The problem is they like to punish the lag on any move you throw out to clear the pikmin off of yourself. You can stay safe by either being far enough away that they can't punish you or close enough that the cleansing attack hits Olimar too. If you choose to get close using a spaced disjoint is pretty important because Olimar's punishing grabs and smashes are really scary. If you're playing the long ranged game make sure to pick a character that can actually get projectiles through the pikmin wall.

Marth Olimar isn't that mobile and spacing is key so tipper blade is probably better. seems like a good representative for the close ranged option while Richter You don't want simon's fire holy water because red a gpikmin are fire immune. is an ideal long ranged option. I don't have much Lucario experience, but I think he seems like a potential hard counter to Olimar. He gets more range and more damage the higher his percent, and Olimar is great at damage racking and somewhat limited in kill options. As long as you are using your aura enhanced range properly and being really mindful of grabs you should be able to live for a really long time. Additionally, His aura sphere charging seems like a good option to cleanse pikmin while not wasting time whiffing attacks or leaving yourself vulnerable, and you can even trigger your counter with the latched pikmin damage ticks as an offensive mix up. Make sure you have good DI as Lucario because your high % survival is really important.

Whoever you choose you should make sure you are familiar with Olimar. His pikmin all have different abilities: blue makes Olimar's throws go about 2x as far and makes his up throw kill at about 110% on a normal weight; yellow hits 1.5x farther than normal; red hits 1.5x more damage than normal; white does a ton of latch damage and is thrown farther when used as a projectile, but it deals less damage and knockback from regular attacks and throws; Purple have more health, knockback, and damage, and instead of latching on when thrown they deal flat damage and knock you back. His up smash is a combo starter that does a lot of shield damage and gives him a frame advantage when not parried. His up air chains into itself, and he can use platforms as combo extenders. If one of his smashes clinks with one of your attacks the pikmin suffers the lag instead of Olimar so he can immediately follow up with another smash attack while you're still immobile. All of his smash attacks are projectiles and can be reflected if you know when they're coming. If he has no pikmin and is in the air he can only use his Nair. His recovery is worse the more pikmin weight he has purples in particular can make it so he can't even go upwards so Olimar usually throws pikmin at the stage before using his recovery. His whistle has super armor so he will sometimes use it to power through a telegraphed attack or as a pseudo airdodge off stage. It's other function is to shuffle pikmin so you might want to watch out for a blue grab attempt or purple smash if you see him use it otherwise.


dd0f52  No.16205067

>>16154399

but whowho would the 2hu be?

marisa and geno should have had a magical forest chapter in the ultimate subspace emissary that doesnt exist. they could do laser bro moves


e76602  No.16205205

>>16205067

The Touhou would be nobody because the moment that trash autistic weeb series touches this game is the day it dies.


dd0f52  No.16205267

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16205205

if autism could kill smash bros perhaps its already passed the border of life.

gamers will get this joke.


1f71b3  No.16205281

>>16204088

Kirby absorbs Olimar and he wins the match.

Olimar and Shulk have bad matchups against kirby because if kirby gets the power, he just wins.

Kirby's pikmin throw is like always throwing Purple pikmin, with yellow's range, kills olimar's pikmin and continues through attacking olimar and still going through. Kirby can spam pikmin throw, olimar can't. Kirby is perhaps the best "specific counter" character in the game (Olimar, Shulk, Wii Fit Trainer, Captain Falcon,among other Matchups that he just wins due better copied ability or he can just crouch through everything/immune to combo game).


1f71b3  No.16205294

>>16205281

and to elaborate, there are many attacks that combo to inhale confirms, so copying powers is not an issue in smush (unless theyre high percent, but at that point you should be aiming to get the stock)


2b92d8  No.16205296

>Sakurai uses a fucking IV drip when he's sick so he can continue work

https://archive.fo/XjjLe


6590a1  No.16207623

>>16205281

Oh yeah, I wasn't thinking about the Pikmin toss. God, that must be a nightmare.


e76602  No.16207645

>>16205296

He's a fucking liar and just trolling so dipshit smash fanboys constantly feel sorry for him and sweep all criticism of him under the rug.


aec219  No.16207890

lol calm down guys


21ab37  No.16207896


e1d104  No.16208846

File: 7720d6fe87d8aca⋯.jpg (25.04 KB, 276x336, 23:28, Hmm...Really make you thin….jpg)

>>16202051

>>16202057

>>16202074

>>16203990

If the DLC fighter for Smash Ultimate isn't going to be a SE character since SE has a past in Smash of being very protective of their IPs and that this Koichi Sugiyama guy also protective with his works as well, who's it going to be then? What vidya character would fit the criteria of the Brave stats (i.e. Fast & Floaty) and the height of Toon Link? Maybe Banjo & Kazooie but that's pretty doubtful at the moment.


e1d104  No.16208851

>>16207890

>Smash autists

>Calming down

>Ever


3bae6f  No.16209070

>>16208846

Banjo and Kazooie would possibly be codenamed DREAM after their concept on the SNES as a pirate themed RPG. Wonderful 101 or would most likely be the best candidate if not Square Enix.


43fb0b  No.16209079

File: cc925b65f4f69d7⋯.jpg (927.58 KB, 3260x4067, 3260:4067, 23791070_p0.jpg)

>>16191560

>Yuri

>not a Souls character


ff0b01  No.16209139

File: ec0478a8b72fa08⋯.jpg (39.17 KB, 474x503, 474:503, 4059-hulk-sad.jpg)

>not one remotely good character in the DLC

Such is fate.


be5b97  No.16209178

I play as Robin.


afc73a  No.16209211

>>16205296

He's going to die at a much younger age than Iwata at this rate

I don't honestly care though, most of us likely don't.


225c3d  No.16209241

File: 45ee2e63ea7f69c⋯.png (321.19 KB, 547x442, 547:442, 0baec73d8c1f60769c377ec4c9….png)

>>16209139

>Marvel picture.

Fucking drink out of date bleach. Faggot.


75438e  No.16209287

File: 22c2e1fb4d84d20⋯.png (3.31 MB, 1905x1481, 1905:1481, 302616086.5_car ride 2.png)

>>16155328

>too damn big

Oh fuck here we go again


d7a8d7  No.16209441

I'd like a couple of characters from FFTA like Marche or Montblanc, maybe Balthier or Fran since it's the same universe.


0f19db  No.16209485

File: bf3d62bed88e8a1⋯.png (295.61 KB, 564x630, 94:105, Sweaty Duck.png)

I'm worried they will add a Gen 8 Pokemon as DLC. Probably the grass monkey's final form.


1f71b3  No.16210857

You know what I hate the most out of smash?

the fucking nigger chimpanzee commentators screaming like gibbering baboons and ruining spectating any tournament.

God I fucking hate those fucking apes, it really ruins it.


ff0b01  No.16211369

>>16210857

>blah blah blah I hate niggers

Yeah yeah join the club faggot.


06e95a  No.16211617

File: 0c41c553bd7e1ee⋯.webm (12.91 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Dark Samus intro 60fps.webm)

>>16209485

I'd be willing to bet my left nut on it, if it weren't for the fact that they said all 5 of the dlc will be "franchises not yet playable in smash bros", meaning pokemon is not an option. This also means no fire emblem shit. Sadly, it's just vague enough to mean we get literal dogshit tier characters.


b8167b  No.16212464

>>16211617

>if it weren't for the fact that they said all 5 of the dlc will be "franchises not yet playable in smash bros"

No they didn't, Reggie just reconfirmed that the characters will be new to the series, he never said anything about franchises.


0f19db  No.16212567

>>16208846

>Fast, Floaty, Toon Link or Ness proportions

Quote?


a14ccb  No.16212606

>>16212464

Isn't that a given, though? Every playable character from previous Smash games is in Ultimate already, so of course all the DLC characters would be new to the series.


97d441  No.16212634

File: bfd8b52359933dd⋯.jpg (515.29 KB, 1592x896, 199:112, kruger.jpg)

>>16192543

Thanks, I'll keep this in mind.

>>16192443

I've included the sales tax for three of those items. It's 13% reeeeeeee!

>>16192864

Not a bad guess, but our electricity is much cheaper than yours. I pay a third per kwh, what Australia and New Zealand pays.

Honestly looking at good games for the Nintendo switch I see:

Super Mario Odessey

Super Smash Bros Ultimate

Everything else seems like a port/remake…..you're breaking my balls Nintendo, I'm not happy with that!


e76602  No.16212712

>>16212634

Mario Odyssey sucks unless you're autistic and like big expanses full of nothing to make your character jump and wahoo around in.


0f9266  No.16212754

>>16212712

tbh more fun to jump and bing bing wahoo in mario 64 anyway


b8167b  No.16213464

>>16212606

Yes but he wasn't there to reveal new information about the game, he was just restating that since they were showing off the game to advertise it and the DLC pass to people who might not have been following the game.


360a0b  No.16219815

>>16212712

Still better than any recent western AAA though.


d70432  No.16228703

>5 Wolves and Inklings

>3 Ganons and regular Links

>2 Warios, K. Rools, Marios, Dark Samuses, Nesses, Incineroars, Richters

<surprising Zelda and Yoshi

That's all the fags I've encountered today

I'm sick of Wolves, Links and Inklings in particular. I haven't seen another Ridley but me since release day. Probably because he has a very shitty recovery and he isn't too good, but so many fags made petitions and shat their pants for the spiritual liege of Barney the dinosaur, so why am I the only one on him? I've seen more Gaymen Watches.


9f0072  No.16235205

>>16228703

Surprised to know that you did not encounter Cloud or any Fire Emblem character.


fc3d6c  No.16236059

>>16154348

Anyone wanna play a few rounds?


fc3d6c  No.16236558

>>16211617

Hopefully this means we can get Ray MK III and Saki since they're not ATs this time


1f71b3  No.16237585

>>16211369

>trying to homogenize or spur uninterest in dissent towards low IQ commentating

nice try nigglet


953856  No.16237645

File: 67093430b82ff55⋯.png (309.33 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 67093430b82ff554fee58c4986….png)

give me mii ideas.


c2098b  No.16237651

>>16237645

Look up Mii QR codes, there are a lot of really good ones dating back to the Wii days that you can import to the Switch.


ebb498  No.16237659

>>16237585

>wanting commentating at all

No John, you are the niglet.


953856  No.16237679

>>16237651

>QR codes

>import to the Switch

excuse me?


1f71b3  No.16237695

File: 0fbe94d691a17da⋯.jpg (32.37 KB, 499x338, 499:338, 0fbe94d691a17da00e4ca2449a….jpg)

>>16237659

When did I say I want any commentating?

You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel for a rebuke there.


ebb498  No.16237704

>>16237695

You complained about nigger commentating instead of commentating as a whole.


2e2fc7  No.16237714


438316  No.16237820

File: 7e51148246d2b92⋯.jpg (145.65 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, I M Meen.jpg)

>>16237645

I'm currently in the process of trying to make a Mii fighter to go with each set of costume and outfit. Inklings, Isabelle, K.Rool, and Chrom don't really count because they're in game.

I know they will look goofy or not alright, but that's due to the nature of Miis and Mii fighters. And some of these are suggestions or just to spark ideas or discussion, I haven't made Miis for all of these.

Video Game Characters:

>Matt (Wii Boxing)

>Chibi Robo costume (Use Jenny as the Mii)

>Leon Kennedy (Special Forces Outfit)

>Kerbal Space Program (Astronaut Suit)

>Goemon (Ninja Outfit)

>Rudy (Wild Arms) (Western Outfit)

>Kunio (Biker Outfit)

>Takamaru (Costume)

>Isaac (Costume)

>Saki (Costume)

>Flying Man (Everdred as the Mii)

>Dunban (Costume)

>Ray Mk III (Costume) (Only the Eyes)

>Toad (Costume)

>Skull Kid (Costume)

>Unmasked Samus (Costume)

>Unmasked Captain Falcon (Costume) (the anime exists to use as a reference)

>Spring Man (Costume)

>Ribbon Girl (Costume)

>Nia (Costume)

>Ashley (Costume)

>Yiga Clan (Costume) (No Face)

>Black Knight (Costume) (No Face)

>Unmasked Zelgius (Black Knight Costume)

>Ukiki (Monkey Outfit)

>Vince (Painter's Outfit)

>Heihachi (Fighter Outfit)

>Marcus Fenix (Bionic Outfit)

Meme Choices:

>Senator Armstrong (Business Outfit Brawler)

>Hank Hill (Basic)

>CDi Link (Link Outfit)

>Adolf Hitler (Painter Outfit)

>Bob Ross (Painter Outfit)

>Jack Sparrow (Pirate Outfit)

>John Wick (Business Outfit Gunner)

>Ripley (Alien Movies) (Mecha Outfit / Female)

>Reggie (Business Outfit Brawler)

>Miyamoto in Fursuit (Fox Outfit)

>Soyboy (Labo Outfit)

>I. M. Meen (Vampire Outfit Purple)

>Tohru Dragon Maid (Maid Outfit)


641468  No.16238038

File: 7de68871f9ce74e⋯.png (561.35 KB, 817x621, 817:621, 8.png)

>>16237645

>>16237820

>Lincoln (Gunner, Business Outfit, Tophat)

>Urkel (Brawler, Labo Outfit)

>Nigel Thornberry (Sword Fighter, Monkey outfit)

That's all I've got.


641468  No.16238104

>>16238086

Too bad the framerate isn't perfect. I'd be surprised if this mode wasn't in the 3.0 update, it's clear that some work went into it and it would be a shame to see it gone.


c2098b  No.16238107

>>16237679

While it's annoying and time consuming, provided you have access to an amiibo you can transfer them from one system to the next. It's a way to salvage old designs and not have to painstakingly recreate them.


641468  No.16238131

>>16238113

Weren't HTML files referring for homerun contest and stage builder found in Ultimate recently? Smash Run might be wishful thinking, but so were Snake, Daisy, and Richter Belmont I didn't get Geno though. At worst we only get those two modes and Joker.


b70ebc  No.16238145

>>16212634

>What is Xenoblade 2

>What is Gal Metal

>What is Breath of the Wild

>What is Octopath Traveller

>What is Splatoon 2

Everything's a port remake my ass. It has more exclusives than the PS4 despite being significantly younger.

>>16212712

>big expanses full of nothing

This is the exact opposite of what Super Mario Odyssey is. What brand of stupid are you ?


bcfbea  No.16238334

>>16212634

But Smash Ultimate is a port :^)


6179d7  No.16250790

File: 64200b6502c7606⋯.png (29.65 KB, 731x326, 731:326, ClipboardImage.png)

HAYABUSA/STEVE/DOOMGUY LEAK IS DEAD

THANK GOD


6179d7  No.16250797

>>16238145

>This is the exact opposite of what Super Mario Odyssey is.

>Forgetting Tostarena

>Forgetting the boring arctic level

>Forgetting the boring beach level

>Forgetting that most of the levels have nothing to do except find moons in the middle of nowhere

Sorry I'm not retarded like you anon, I actually like games that are good.


bb0de8  No.16251096

>>16250790

Hayabusa and Doomguy would have been nice to have in, but it's excellent for Steve to not be in.


0ee42b  No.16251170

File: 5a7aef5d6da0c7b⋯.gif (329.97 KB, 200x400, 1:2, samus_3d__turnaround_anima….gif)

File: 16e9bc402bb85c9⋯.png (396.9 KB, 609x900, 203:300, samus_light_suit__3D model.png)

File: a99f5fb1bc7ce46⋯.jpg (30.01 KB, 474x645, 158:215, Fusion Suit Model.jpg)

File: be704eaac842e76⋯.jpg (150.08 KB, 550x800, 11:16, Thumbs up.jpg)

File: e5e6d2f669b8839⋯.png (127.3 KB, 310x480, 31:48, Phazon_suit_transparent (1….png)

Am I the only one who thinks Samus need a compete moveset overhaul?

Samus just doesn't quite feel like Samus to me, her moveset is dull, Samus lacking a lot of her various amount of Beams, like the ice beam, wave beam, spazer beam, Plasma beam, etc. I understand that she can't have every move from her games, but not any of these, really? I mean after MegaMan where every attack is from his from one of previous games I don't think their is much of an excuse on why she's so limited, I'm just going to list off some things that could help spice up Samus's moveset

1.) Space Jump Give 1 additional jump in the air.

2.) Charge Beam Make it her Forward Smash, kinda like MegaMan's. Holding her forward smash and pushing down will cause Samus to scatter morph ball bombs instead like Super Metroid

3.) Ice Beam Just make it her new Neutral B.

4.) Back Air should be a short melee blast from the arm cannon instead of kick.

5.) Up Air can be the Wave Beam, it can work kinda like Rosalina's up air, but it pushes Samus once used.

6.) Down Smash can be the Plasma Beam but she strikes the ground in in front and behind her causing large bursts to erupt from the ground.

7.) Side B can stay mostly the same, but maybe add ice missiles, and change the property of them instead of the slow homing missile it just fires out and goes straight forward, super missile can ether stay the same, or make it something the comes out at random but has much more powerful, it can have shorter range, but also travels faster.

8.)Down Air can can just be a rapid blast from her cannon, the Mii Gunner's Forward Smash comes to mind on how it would work, just downward.

9.) Jab can go ether way, it could be a pea shooter like MegaMan, or Samus just slams her arm cannon right from the get go and the final hit would be replaced with a less powerful version of her old Forward Smash.

10.) I believe the Dash attack is already supposed to be the speed booster, but just give some longer range, and make it look more speed boosty and call it a day.

11.) Side Taunt is Samus giving a Thumbs Up

I don't think I much of a right to complain sense I got Ridley and Dark Samus, but these are just a few suggestions from the top of my head that I think could make Samus more interesting.

I would like to hear what anyone else thinks could be added to make Samus a little better in smash.

One last thing change the suit, I don't mind Other M suit to much, but it's kind of just boring to look at it's to plain and it feels like your playing as a version of Samus who hasn't even obtained the Long Beam yet. I know this a pipe dream but make light suit an actual alt, along with the Phazon suit, Fusion suit, and for fun throw in the power suit without it's upgrades just because I think it would look little fun to see that suit using every ability equipped


b70ebc  No.16251177

>>16250797

Outright lying is not going to help you.


b7148b  No.16251182

>>16237820

>Kunio (Biker Outfit)

If the tracksuit still exists in there somewhere it'd be a better fit considering his more iconic clothing.


6179d7  No.16251195

>>16251170

Truthfully, lots of characters need kit overhauls, Samus and Pikachu included. Kirby is still using his super outdated kit from 64 and even the devs realized how shit it was to the point where they arbitrarily made his dash attack and down+B kill moves out of pity.

But you know how Sakurai feels about "arbitrarily changing movesets". Smash is a series where you can't ever change or correct anything because Sakurai feels it would ALIENATE everyone who is used to having it a certain way. Therefore mistakes never get fixed, Ganondorf is still a Falcon clone, there are a million Marths, Dr. Mario is still an alternate character instead of a skin.

There is a point where it becomes arbitrary to keep things the same and Smash is way beyond that, but Sakurai isn't going to change it because he's an autist.


0ee42b  No.16251258

>>16251195

At most in the next three smash games Samus will get her counter from Metroid II Return of Samus.


52277e  No.16251343

File: 4aa5e5953ed96d6⋯.png (8.43 MB, 3950x3950, 1:1, DefaultLook.png)

File: 6d52afb1addf03f⋯.png (400.42 KB, 2048x256, 8:1, Link_Palette_(SSBU).png)

File: 153c169605e19b9⋯.png (1020.48 KB, 3376x690, 1688:345, Clothes_in_BotW.png)

File: abe7c4f73e8833f⋯.jpg (97.77 KB, 1080x600, 9:5, using_the_Ancient_Bow_(Fin….jpg)

Link's appearance in BotW is highly customizable, but thanks to Smash Ultimate, I finally figured out what his "default" look should be while you're playing BotW.

BotW Link's default look

>head: [none]

>body: Champion's Tunic

>leg: Hylian Trousers

>weapon: Master Sword

>shield: Hylian Shield

>bow: Traveler's Bow

However, the Traveler's Bow (an early weak bow) sucks ass in BotW. Thankfully, Link uses an Ancient Bow and Ancient Arrow for his Final Smash in SSBU, which is a much better bow overall to use in BotW.

>bow: Ancient Bow


7ca3f0  No.16251364

File: 43c62456f5d3af8⋯.png (119.08 KB, 342x463, 342:463, potpotpot.png)

>>16165189

>only liked by fujoshits and virgins

Just like Dragon Quest I suppose?


722f57  No.16252576

Could someone give me some advice on how to beat Ganondorf? He's the one character that consistently kicks my shit in unless I'm playing against someone who's really bad. I'm also pretty shit, but no other character is 3 stocking me.


1f71b3  No.16252607

>>16251170

1)Screw Attack is fine, but I think they mid-air jump should be like in super metroid (forward air-rolling) or space jump-like. Your idea of a second mid-air jump with space jump if timed properly would be fine though, just make sure its not OP so have to give her a weakness somewhere if she has 2 mid-air jumps

2) Disagreed with this one. It's a shitty gimmick. I think B shoudl be Charge Beam, and if you press down twice (down again from crouching) you do the morph ball scatter. Holding B should be charge beam instead of the current Meme ball B. It could also be slightly homing, like in the games. NOt much damage or knockback like the current B but slightly homing, quick to charge, not muhc knockback but considerable damage and stun, can chase or combo out of that stun.

3) Ice Beam should be a different beam, like Project M did, just switch beams with Taunts. Instead of stun it freezes in place, and if in the air it works like PK Freeze horizontal launch

4)like mii gunner? sure, mii gunner has a good backair easier to land too

5) I can see wave beam like ness' Up air with the gun

6) Plasma Beam is the thicc beam, so I think it would be better as an up smash, instead of the generic explosion she can aim upwards and a geyser of lava can come out, 2 hits, canon going up then lava.

7)The issue with missiles si the ridiculous recovery time of the ability. It needs to be faster to deploy and be able to move out of it, at least for normal missiles. I think Ice missiles should be in if you switch to Ice with taunt.

8) should be like super metroid when shooting down, can angle it to the sides. The beam of choice can be tested. Plasma should be good here.

9)Samus is a zoner so her jab should be a "get out of here" option, a quick shove with her hands then into pushing with buster (can only do shove, if you press you do the elbow strike with canon) The current jab is shit because it doesnt connect well

10) they need to make it combo again, make it faster too, or at least let it grab some nice max speed the more she runs

11) Agreed

Generally good ideas. Samus needs a redesign to be more like in her games


1f71b3  No.16252610

>>16252576

Sword user

play a small character/rushdown he has a hard time hitting, comboing or frame trapping (kirby, pikachu, pichu)

A quick zoner he has a hard time getting close to.


1f71b3  No.16252617

>>16250790

Vergeben BTFO


f04eb1  No.16252623

>>16202051

Good job conveniently forgetting that Ninty managed to convince the guy to stop being a greedy jew and allow a fully orchestrated soundtrack for DQ 11S.


06e95a  No.16252634

File: 9a407401e099538⋯.jpg (35.13 KB, 400x269, 400:269, Metroid 4 face.jpg)

File: 175759a44f87f62⋯.jpg (55.06 KB, 400x282, 200:141, Metroid 4 mutations.jpg)

File: c0e5511b75085dd⋯.jpg (42.89 KB, 400x264, 50:33, Metroid 4 screen.jpg)

File: 5d958fedc905ab3⋯.jpg (46.34 KB, 400x263, 400:263, Metroid 4 wall run.jpg)

File: 321c52a2868d28f⋯.jpg (42.97 KB, 400x273, 400:273, Metroid 4.jpg)

>>16251170

The only way we'd get a moveset overhaul for Samus would be if we got a different version of her, namely her Fusion version which boasted somewhat different abilities from all the games, and even boasted many more before it was overhauled into it's current version

>Samus could run up walls

>Could reverse gravity and walk on the ceiling

>had a homing laser of sorts

>her arm canon didn't cover her right hand and was instead forearm mounted, thus it let her do things such as climb ladders and do hand over hand movements (this mechanic was the one thing retained in the final build).


05a480  No.16254867

>>16251170

>Am I the only one who thinks Samus need a compete moveset overhaul?

No you're not. Samus is consistently one of the worst characters in every Smash game. It's clear at this point her moveset doesn't work with Smash mechanics and physics, whether Melee, Brawl, or Smash 4/Ultimate she simply does not work.


9133ee  No.16254992

>>16252634

what if metroid was gril




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