88fe8b No.16142983
So, right now im playing the original doom, and doom 2 afterwards.
what are some other games i could play afterwards that are as or even more fun as doom, in your oppinion?
91e1d7 No.16142986
keep playing more doom wads.quake, half life, etc
5e2253 No.16142990
>>16142983
>what are some other games i could play afterwards that are as or even more fun as doom
What do you find fun about it?
06c69f No.16143005
Serious Sam, now that's a good game.
88fe8b No.16143009
>>16142990
the fast-paced, satisfying action, light puzzle solving, navigating the labyrinth-like level design, and just pretty fun overall.
a0455b No.16143012
485c7d No.16143026
>>16142983
The evolution tree is Doom, Duke Nukem, Quake, Half-Life. Notable mentions: Rise of the Tried, Marathon, Blood, Shadow Warrior, Alien Trilogy, Quake 2, Alien vs Predator, Sin, Shogo.
2373d2 No.16143065
>>16143026
>mentioning quake 2 and rott but not dark forces and unreal
343110 No.16143099
>>16143009
The Descent franchise.
e0b379 No.16143101
Bulk slash on the saturn is excellent
c58f13 No.16143118
>>16143009
Are you new to classic FPS games? The Build Engine trilogy is great: Duke Nukem 3D, Shadow Warrior and One Unit Whole Blood. Even though I called them a "trilogy" there is no connection between them, other than the common playstyle and that each one parodies a movie genre.
There are source ports available for all of them. For Duke 3D there is eDuke32, for Blood there is the recently released NBlood. Shadow Warrior is in a shitty state, there is an old one, but no idea how well it works. There is Shadow Warrior Classic Redux, a modern re-release which is basically an official, but paid, source port.
http://eduke32.com/
https://github.com/nukeykt/NBlood
>>16143099
Oh yes, Descent is fantastic.
729bb4 No.16143160
>>16142983
OpenTTD and Jagged Alliance 2, different genres obviously but you're not gonna want to uninstall them. If you need an FPS then get Quake and the Build games as previous anons suggested
88fe8b No.16143172
>>16143118
oh, i've been dabbling a bit. i played duke nukem 64, some quake, lots of doom mods, nu doom,but that was a while ago, and i thought i'd be nice to have some more fun with the genre.
74d197 No.16143202
>>16143172
If you only care about old FPSes, I recommend Kingpin: Life of Crime and RTCW.
729bb4 No.16143207
>>16143172
The cut off point for classic FPS is Quake II if that;s what you wanted to know. Only a couple old school games released after that one, forget them for now and play Duke
7aa02c No.16143222
>>16143172
Half-life is fun if more linear than those titles. It also has tonnes of mods some better than others and svencoop is free on steam if you want coop.
Recent titles I've seen kicked around that are of this style is UNLOVED and DUSK I'm curious why these numale devs think it's necessary to write their game titles in all caps though.
When you get bored of vanilla Duke3D play Attrition mod, it turns the game into an arena shooter with evolving guns and I had alot of fun with it, shame its not coop though.
>>16143160
JA2 is the only good thing to come out of Canada.
a99807 No.16143308
>>16143222
>JA2 is the only good thing to come out of Canada.
what about baldur's gate though
ae21df No.16143318
>DOOM
>Fun
great meme, but not really
4365be No.16143320
>>16143026
halflife was shit and ruined games thereafter.
marathon was shit too, and only had any kind of notoriety due to being the only thing macfags had to entertain them for 30 years.
3731ba No.16143326
>>16143281
Nice fag music, faggot.
166a06 No.16143340
>>16143009
>the fast-paced, satisfying action
If you like fast-paced satisfying action then I wholeheartely recommend FEAR. Though to be completely honest, before you play that game you need to be aware of what to expect because it's very specific or you're going to hate it.
FEAR is a very lineral game that has nothing going for it besides the atmosphere, story and combat. There is no exploration well there is some but it sucks balls, no real level design besides the arenas that you fight gauntlets on, there is no puzzle solving, there isn't even ammo and HP management seeing that the game literaly throws ammo and HP packs your way all the fucking time, nothing. The only things that you do during the game are combat, and spooky walking segments where shit jumps at you. That being said, FEAR is bloody wonderful when it comes to combat. The combat is incredibly fucking fun, with a varied moveset, inteligent enemies, great weapons that singlehandely makes up for lacking anything else in the game. It focuses only on combat but it does combat so fucking well that it is worth playing nonethanless. The game plays like an FPS Max Payne, but with a wider moveset allowing you for different variety of meele moves to go along with your shooting, a far more inteligent AI and a sci-fi/horror animu Akira-esque theme.
Fuck I miss old Monolith
a99807 No.16143344
>>16143340
>I wholeheartely recommend FEAR
I don't
7aa02c No.16143346
>>16143326
I think what's more offensive is the total lack of audio synchronicity. It's not even not trying it's just not giving a shit.
166a06 No.16143347
>>16143344
>Those numbers
Wew, I guess that means that OP won't like the game.
0d226d No.16143352
>>16143334
>>16143281
>sound isn't even synced
>gay music
36c9e4 No.16143394
>>16143340
FEAR is slow, it's basically one peg above rainbow 6 and SWAT.
844289 No.16143454
Rush on Left 4 Dead 2.
You'll get kicked a lot and people will complain when you're the only guy that's still alive.
88fe8b No.16143506
>>16143394
which game is that? looks fun.
16ebed No.16143540
>>16143506
bulk slash on sega saturn. it is fun, the stupid anime girls wont shut up though
36c9e4 No.16143550
>>16143506
Bulk Slash on Saturn, a shooter with large open maps and numerous objectives to complete. Usually about destroying targets and strafing around lots of shots coming at you. You can transform into a flying plane or an on the ground mech both with different attacks. Made by the Mario Party devs before Nintendo choked the creativity out of them.
>>16143540
then don't use them
16ebed No.16143555
>>16143550
they tell you where to go. without them finding the objectives is hard
844289 No.16143700
>>16143320
>the only thing macfags had to entertain them for 30 years.
You forgot Myst.
3062aa No.16144391
>>16142983
There are many games as fun but the only thing that's like Doom is Doom; nothing else scratches that itch in quite the same way.
1a1b86 No.16144437
Mac had Civilization and Warcraft 2.
Should try warframe OP. I didn't play FPS after the disaster Halo was compared to Unreal Tournament but Warframe is the fast pace they used to be.
8fb829 No.16144474
>>16142983
Any EURO simulator
2bd220 No.16144490
>>16143320
>>16143700
The only games you can run a mac even now are the most mainstream triple AAA games and not even all of them. Also I don't know if PC to Mac game ports have gotten better but when I was a teenager they crashed all the time and glitched out
8434f7 No.16144566
>ctrl f heretic
>ctrl f hexen
>0 results
Faggots, the lot of you.
OP, play Heretic: Shadow of the Serpent Riders followed by Hexen and it's expansion Deathkings of the Dark Citadel
5876d8 No.16144671
>>16143320
>halflife was shit and ruined games thereafter.
Imagine being such a whiny millennial that not only you won't own up to the shame of poisoning vidya with SJWs and the 7th generation faggotry, but you have to pretend it was the great Half-Life and not your beloved Halo\COD that killed first person shooters.
I know you're the same faggots who try to break consensus over Halo, so keep your filthy and pozzed hands off Half-Life.
88fe8b No.16144676
>>16143344
why shouldn't he recommend fear?
577913 No.16144678
>>16144676
Because it's a corridor shooter with 1 gimmick and 1 enemy type. It was only played due to graphics and jumpscares at the time
Listen to oldfags instead of memegaymrs.
06c69f No.16144685
>>16144676
>enemies talks very loudly into your ear
>retarded jumpscares
>no difference between both melee attacks
>medkit is a sloppy way of mitigating damage as it's instant and could have just been more health to your health instead of pressing a button whenever a bullet hits you
it's not as bad as shogo but not as good as no one lives forever
bec430 No.16144721
>grab zandronum
>join a random server
>have a blast with one of those complete overhauls
>tfw playing doom coop but its MW2 spec ops with perks, loadouts and leveling
Shooting demons with an AA12 is quite fun 2b honest fam.
you could try out powerslave/exhumed, get the DOS version with the hack and the EX version
54a0cd No.16144764
>>16143454
You shouldn't leave your team behind.
Instead of helping them and getting 100x4, you get yourself at 80 and your team mates at 30.
ac99d9 No.16144779
Genuine suggestion, even though it's kind of cheating, Have you tried SRB2, and further, the multiplayer
b697c4 No.16144780
I too started playing the original Doom recently after I marathoned the build engine trinity and the descent duology.
I like it. It has a shotgun that packs a lot of punch, really fast gameplay that's focused on going fast and picking off priority targets rather than hiding behind cover and lobbing grenades and it offers a pretty decent difficulty curve. I'd compare it to Dusk but there's something Doom does that Dusk doesn't that does not make the difficulty completely non existent. Oh yeah, it's called hitscanners that are done just right. And the level design is amazing, I thought Dark Forces 2 was great but this is on an entirely different level. If I had any complaints it would be the the whole radiation suit mechanic, as well as the episode 2 secret level which was complete ass.
I have Doom 2, Heretic and Hexen lined up before jumping into quake. Any recommended wads? I'm eyeing Preacher, Demonsteele and I might be considering either Brutal Doom or Project Brutality but I'm not sure what's the difference or which is better, or what problems they might have.
000000 No.16144782
There was overhaul with vehicles, gane node was something like base defence. All enemies and weapons was new.
Anyone knows what am i talking about? Its a quality mod so it must be popular.
c58f13 No.16145020
Here is another fun classic FPS: Outlaws for Windows. In the campaign you play as a former sheriff who is hunting down a gang of outlaws to rescue his daughter. There are fewer levels than in Doom, but they are very large and each one is unique, so you won't play through twenty same-looking saloons. There are also standalone missions which are not connected to the main plot. In-between story missions there are also cool animated cutscenes.
The only sore point is the enemy variety, you'll be fighting mostly just the same few bandits with different guns. The individual outlaws are unique fortunately.
7b5a7c No.16145130
>>16142983
Quake and Duke 3D are some obvious answers, but I imagine you've already played them.
I also recommend Serious Sam, but for whatever reason you get some people here having autism fits about that series.
>>16144676
FEAR is quite possibly one of the most overrated games ever, moreso than the N64 LoZ games.
That doesn't mean it's bad, but holy shit, it does not hold up. I'm saying this as a person who played it for the first time in 2016.
1aba08 No.16145153
>>16145130
The thing about F.E.A.R is that everything about the game is shit except the combat is so good it makes up for everything else, so when a person who only cares about shooting picks up the game he's gonna love it. If you feel like it, try replaying it and just go guns blazing without giving three shits about little girls, phone messages or walking corpses, you'll see the game feels that much better.
7b5a7c No.16145168
>>16145153
Level and enemy design are also important in a game, and both of these aspects are terrible in FEAR.
4ef68b No.16145177
>>16143065
Dark Forces has hideously shitty map design, like Plutonia Experiment level shitty.
0c533f No.16145203
How do I play quakespasm with a decent resolution? For some reason the highest I can set it to is 960x540, and fullscreen fucks up if I tab out of it for a second.
b00ea9 No.16145389
>>16142983
>what are some other games i could play afterwards that are more fun than doom.
Literally any great or just good, but not grindy game?
Honestly, if you don't savescum and play doom just like any other game that you don't want to just skim through - pretty quick you'll find yourself in situations where you are just too drained out to repeat the entire stage after another failure, which is not a good sign. For their time the games were fantastic, but right now it's painfully obvious how simplistic the in-game problems are and how little options you have when coming up with solutions. Nightmare difficulty would be different, but only in comparison to every other one, because within the context of a playthrough it suffers from the same problem.
>>16143009
>that are as fun as doom
Most old school FPS, FEAR (and its expansions), L4D1\Vermentide (don't get 2, it's a complete rip off), Carmageddon series, SCP containment breach, Survival Crisis Z, Monstrum, Borderlands 1, 7.62 High Calibre, Hatred/Postal, Fate, Starbound, Brain Bread, Kenshi, Fallout:BoS-NV, Resident Evil: Revelations (1st only), The Last Stand, Cataclyzm DDA, Judgment Apocalypse Survival, Darkwood, Twisted metal series (to be specific games past the 4th one), Darkest Dungeon, Hitman™, Teleglitch, Rust, Trouble in Terrorist Town, Sir you are being hunted, Men of War, Mount and Blade, Recettear, Nuclear Dawn/Natural Selection 2, EDF 2&3, MT2/SMT1 etc.
Under normal circumstances I wouldn't recommend some of these games in general and some adjustments were made so you wouldn't have too much fun, because otherwise see 1.
>>16144566
>Recommending Hexen
>calling anyone faggot
b697c4 No.16145411
>>16145389
What's wrong with Hexen? Should I not play it?
7b5a7c No.16145559
>>16145411
Don't listen to him, he's recommending TTT and FEAR.
He might be confusing Hexen with Heretic.
b00ea9 No.16145576
>>16145411
Well, if you won't burnout on every other OldFPS then I guess it's worth a try. Other than that there are many things that are wrong with Hexen.
In short Heretic is a slightly worse Doom in a generic fantasy setting and Hexen is a gimmiky Heretic, where gimmicks are made at the cost of both the quality and the quantity - less stages, less weapons, less or equal, depending on how you look at it enemies (which doesn't matter since part of them are also simply rehashed). And the gimmicks are
>interconnected door access between stages (get lost\bored backtracking through 4 stages within a world to find a door that you have unlocked)
>character classes (basically split a 9 weapon arsenal into packs of 3 for the entire 4 episode playthrough)
>>16145559
Learn to read before giving advice on who to listen to.
b697c4 No.16145589
>>16145576
For the character classes, is it solely weapon differences or are there level/movement speed/ability/story/whatever differences too?
Honestly I'm interested in it because I recall seeing heretic 2 as a kid and it looked pretty good, like a primitive jedi outcast with spells.
b00ea9 No.16145605
>>16145589
Yes, but you are stuck playing the class for the entire game and I doubt you would ever want to replay it at all, so the difference would be lost on you, while the drawbacks would be glaringly obvious.
If you want to experience a game where the concept works, play Nox or Road Rash: Jailbreak, in one it's an entirely different campaign and experience, in the other it's just a different flavor you could pick (that doesn't take away from the experience) if you were to enjoy the game that much as to replay it.
5ebdbc No.16145633
>>16145168
>Level and enemy design are also important in a game, and both of these aspects are terrible in FEAR.
What about them?
4592b2 No.16146336
b00ea9 No.16146422
>>16146336
Heretic 100% of the time, well, maybe less, but not in favor of Hexen.
65c8e8 No.16146534
>>16143005
>>16145130
Seconding the Serious Sam games.
15cdc3 No.16146579
I have no idea what you find appealing about Doom, but I'll try. Next time try putting some effort into your OP. I assume you want shooters with decently sized levels to explore.
>Duke3D
Great level design, jumping, throwable explosives and babes. What is not to like?
>Half Life 1 and/or Half Life: Opposing Force
If you don't like HL1, I still highly recomnend OpFor. It is legitimately the best thing Gearbox has made, and that's still kinda sad. It's also shorter than the vanilla campaign.
>Quake
Has the best 3D level design of any shooter, but the mission packs are meh. Quake 2's single player levels are also decidedly mediocre.
>Deus Ex 1
A little different but nails the exploration aspect, and you don't have to play it like a slick talky guy if you don't want to; annihilating everything is perfectly viable.
b177cd No.16146654
>>16145203
Try setting up the resolution from within your quake config.
0c533f No.16146797
>>16146654
What's the relevant commands? My google-fu is failing me.
1ff1a8 No.16147801
>>16142983
Duke Nukem 3D
Blood
Shadow Warrior
Serious Sam
Star Wars Dark Forces and Jedi Knight
Terminator SkyNET and Future Shock (they're honestly a lot slower than Doom but they're really interesting and ahead of their time, having features like vehicles, sandbox levels, and polygonal graphics and it predated Quake 1 on top of all that)
Rise of the Triad
Marathon Trilogy
Alien Trilogy
SiN
Half-Life 1 and Opposing Force
Descent 1 and 2
Turok 1 and 2
Quake 1
Unreal
Daikatana with mods to fix/remove the shitty sidekick AI
MDK
Postal 2
Powerslave EX if you're using Wangblows 10 like a fucking faggot the mouselook is broken but a fix was recently-released
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Red Faction
Soldier of Fortune 1 (2's not a bad game either but it's more of a tactical shooter)
Slave Zero (level design takes a dive in the last third but it's really fun up until that point)
Perfect Dark
Chasm
b697c4 No.16148175
Speaking of build engine games, is Ion Maiden any good?
c7ec36 No.16148533
>>16147801
>Terminator SkyNET and Future Shock
This feels more like a survival horror than an action FPS.
fee7d1 No.16148536
Doom isn't fun though. The level design is terribad.
5f1d81 No.16148537
Doom wasn't fun, it was a maze.
>run around in circles clicking on walls until something opens
>"fun"
ae247a No.16148553
>>16147801
Blake Stone 1 & 2, you're Blake Stone, Space Commando trying to stop (((Dr Goldfire))), who wants to steal all the gold in the universe using his army of muttants.
Very few games re-use Wolfenstein's 3d graphic engine so well.
c7ec36 No.16148582
>>16148536
>>16148537
This tbh. At least in Terminator Future Shock you're actually told what to do and where to go in the vast and open ended levels (without map or direction markers, so it's still very challenging). Duke 3D and Shadow Warrior, while still sharing the basic 3-key format of Doom, actually made much better use of their environment. Doom and Quake are seriously outdated at level design, I can't understand those who find their levels remotely fun.
>>16145020
>The only sore point is the enemy variety
I don't find the enemy variety to be it's weak point. It's more hindered by it's terrible and confusing level design.
467d46 No.16148664
>>16148537
>>16148536
Build games are more of a maze than Doom, at least I can complete Doom maps without getting lost trying to figure out what the fuck I'm supposed to do when the map function in Build games is fucking worthless.
5216b7 No.16148678
>>16148537
I wonder if people with Downs' Syndrome think breathing is a boring, tedious activity?
c7ec36 No.16148683
>>16148678
Now that you reminded me that I'm breathing, it is.
5216b7 No.16148692
>>16148683
Man, being retarded must suck
b697c4 No.16148796
>>16148537
>>16148536
Are you fucking joking? How do you get lost in Doom?
bce9a1 No.16148812
>>16148537
>getting lost in Doom
>a game with a fucking automap
5e9b16 No.16148816
5ebdbc No.16148818
>>16148536
In the grand scale of things the original levels of Doom are babby-tier when it comes to level complexity.
1aba08 No.16148825
>>16148818
I found Overload's map more difficult than Descent's, but I couldn't use the holo-helper thing out of pride.