a729f0 No.16113371
What are some of those heroes praised by everyone who spend half the series missing, imprisoned or otherwise unavailable and yet they are considered a key part on their causes?
Pic related.
505c93 No.16113379
>>16113371
Do you mean overrated by game/series games, or in-universe?
6375e6 No.16113380
Delete one of these threads, there's two
a729f0 No.16113391
>>16113379
Well, I think Chris is mostly overrated in-universe BUT any of those are valid.
>>16113380
Done, stupid catalog didn't properly update the first time.
6375e6 No.16113404
>>16113391
In response to your thread, I honestly think the fucking Grey Warden in the DA titles is overrated after the first game. Even after pirating the other two to see just how bad they are and to see where the story leads even fucking Hawke from the first second shitshow was in the most recent tumor-of-a-game
bd36ea No.16113405
Overrated by /v/ or in general?
bdb013 No.16113409
master chef is the most overrated
has as much personality as final fantasy 1 characters
48f690 No.16113411
Anon, chris is the one person that ties it all together in the games.
a729f0 No.16113416
>>16113404
DA? Dragon Age?
>>16113405
Let's use both, in my case I easily got fed up by how Chris was this "important" character since RE3 (because in RE1 he was playable and RE2 used him as an excuse to replace Elsa with Claire), as >>16113411 said basically, but he still spends most of the time unavailable or even trapped.
3c8163 No.16113418
>>16113404
But the Grey Warden doesn't have a voice and the other two protagonists do, making autists unable to self insert roleplay in their shitty children's make believe games.
48f690 No.16113428
>>16113416
Hes only missing in 2-3, hes around in all other games, the "missing chris" in revelations was just a decoy while he was tracking a secret airport in a mountain.
a729f0 No.16113435
>>16113428
He was also "missing" in RE6, in RECV he was Claire's only motivation for being around and getting captured.
1c0f5d No.16113437
>be super powerful SOLDIER with sword the size of a whale's dick and hair like the slalom trail
>everyone on the planet is afraid of you, and rightfully so
>capable of chopping up dragons and giant snakes or summoning cat 8 earthquakes on command
>get your ass handed to you by a manlet, a crippled nigger and a chick with massive tits and at least two dicks because they spent more time than you did collecting marbles and killing rabid wildlife
6e0ce9 No.16113442
>>16113437
>and a chick with massive tits and at least two dicks
a729f0 No.16113447
>>16113437
The mama's boy always gets top billing while the killer clown who actually destroyed the world did way worse and still gets the short end of the stick.
48f690 No.16113456
>>16113435
Wow its almost like hes a guy thst goes on undercover, secret mission where shit goes down.
Either that or the theory that hes H.U.N.K. is resl.
6375e6 No.16113471
>>16113418
Don't get me wrong; I feel like the character was written well in the first game. However in each title after that he is completely absent minus a fucking letter in Cisquisition and occasional references and nods, thus deteriorating the quality of the character for lack of presence.
626605 No.16113507
>>16113444
He likes steroids now.
80a2f0 No.16113713
>>16113471
That's because DA:O was the only good game in the DA series. Everything after that was utter shit.
>>16113444
He kinda went back to looking like that in RE7. The main difference is that he's really old now.
>>16113437
Sephiroth was a retarded villain. If he did read those files, he should have been able to piece together that Jenova wasn't his actual mother. The first person he should have went after was Hojo, but no, he decided to burn a town to the ground instead. He then got thrown off a bridge by some no-name.
>>16113371
The last RE game that can be considered a Chris game is RE5. The one before that is RE1. RE6 was just a huge fucking mess. Chris shows up in RE7, but most of the story has already happened before he shows up. He's not in RE4, RE2 or RE3 unless they get retconned. He's in CV, but Claire took up a lot of that game's runtime. If CV ever gets remade, I'm hoping they just make it a Chris game. Claire has no business trying to infiltrate anyone's HQ and should just go raise Sherry instead.
ca6f17 No.16113777
What's with all the RE shilling recently?
7bd621 No.16113786
>>16113777
RE2Remake is just that good
bb23b1 No.16113863
>>16113786
B-but Claire is ugly so it's kiked!
1c0f5d No.16113866
352140 No.16113932
>>16113409
Master Queef pretty much single handedly defeated the Covenant and the Flood.
Read the OP again, OP wasn't asking which hero was the most shallow or boring. He asked which hero is the least heroic.
048052 No.16113935
Ramza from Final Fantasy Tactics. I've heard people unironically compare him to some of Shakespeare's characters. Also, the little twink is just plain dumb.
9d1fed No.16113941
>>16113620
>why did he need to be so…over-the-topped?
Don't even try to deny it's funnier that way.
194cc1 No.16113942
>Emperor gets kidnapped
>go on an epic quest over the span of a decade finding the pieces to a magical staff
>this staff is the only way to defeat this powerful mage that has kidnapped and impersonated the Emperor
>kill him and save the Emperor who hails you as the Eternal Champion of all Tamriel
>Oblivion Crisis just starting
<decide to sit around with your thumb up your ass in the Imperial Palace's basement like a fucking neckbeard faggot while the Empire falls to ruin and the Emperor is assassinated
What was his problem? He rendered his own fucking quest pointless.
352140 No.16113944
Mario.
He never really saves Peach. All his 30+ years of effort has amounted to jack shit, really. Yet he is the face of Nintendo, the most famous game character ever, probably has the most games… what has he actually accomplished?
2a072d No.16113946
>>16113371
I don't like the new Lara Croft. She's a ditzy cunt who just keeps on getting lucky.
11b520 No.16113963
>>16113944
He's good at literally everything except preventing Peach from getting kidnapped. I mean, the manlet plays tennis, golf, baseball, soccer, basketball, participates in the fucking Olympic games and is good at racing too.
352140 No.16113971
>>16113963
Mario might be underrated as an athlete but he is overrated as a "hero"
He never saved anybody. In fact, he's murdered like a billion Yoshis.
3f1dbc No.16113975
>>16113944
>what has he actually accomplished?
Being the biggest cuck ever?
3cbc30 No.16114018
>>16113371
How long are we going to have thinly veiled RE2 duplicate threads?
9e0bbd No.16114296
>>16114283
sephiroth was just a magus who stayed the main villain. magus did more shit than him, and better too
a729f0 No.16114348
>>16113713
That's precisely my point.
>>16114018
Unless someone brings more Chris tier characters, I can give a non-game example just to make it easy, Tommy Oliver from PR is highly overrated both in universe and real life, he is also given talents at the drop of a hat yet when he was introduced as green ranger he spent most of his time being a villain or losing his power, then when reintroduced in dino thunder he gets promptly neutralized for a good chunk of the series, other rangers consider him a "legend" so much that he becomes leader of a group despite his Japanese counterpart almost never being in charge.
c8bfd0 No.16122348
>>16113863
I'd like that tongue on my balls if you know wat I mean anon.
af76f0 No.16122435
>>16113863
Ada is supposed to be the hot one and all the characters have to be based on real life people because of the cheap facial capture shit Capcom is using, so if they make Claire too hot then they would have no way to make Ada hotter than her. It's all about having to distribute the limited hotness that can be achieved by IRL actors.
59efe6 No.16122467
>>16113371
>Mad Chris is actually more popular than Leon even though twitter fags try and claim other wise.
18e450 No.16122553
In the original Donkey Kong Country trilogy, DK himself is kidnapped for 2/3rds of it.
ba4870 No.16132037
Zero from Mega Man. You keep being told he's the best thing ever even though X is the one doing everything. Then Zero comes in sometimes and kills a boss that I wanted to kill, damnit. But they have to show that Inafune's OC Donut Steel is the best thing ever, even though he's just edgy Protoman.
c1cdde No.16132059
>>16132037
Am I the only one as a kid to think Zero was a girl because of the long hair and green orbs on the chest?
7f6da8 No.16132096
>>16113935
>Ramza from Final Fantasy Tactics. I've heard people unironically compare him to some of Shakespeare's characters.
What the fuck? FFT was fun, but I don't see where this kind of thing would come from.
829f28 No.16132166
>>16113971
>He never saved anybody. In fact, he's murdered like a billion Yoshis.
You say that like that's not a noble thing to do.
>>16122467
>Mad Chris is actually more popular than Leon
I have a difficult time believing that when Leon has RE2 and RE4 behind him, compared to Chris who only has RE1 and RE5. no one cares about the Revelations games even though they should
>>16122553
>Diddy was playable in more DKC games than Donkey Kong
>Dixie was playable in more DKC games than Donkey Kong
829f28 No.16132172
>>16132166
Also forgot to mention Leon got three movies with Chris only appearing in the third one.
2a8d41 No.16132191
>never says a word
>causes the resonance cascade
>never helps anyone escape black mesa
>famous for bashing things with a crowbar
>instead of saving the world just paves the way for the combine invasion
>fucks off for 20 years
>portal storms continue to bring in more Xen aliens
>seven hour war happens
>somehow has a personality cult
829f28 No.16132222
>>16132191
sounds familiar
72be40 No.16132231
>>16132222
>shows up after UAC dicks up everything my taking a shortcut across Hell
>kills everything
>wrecks hell
>kills the demons on Earth
>goes back to Hell and kills even more
>sits on a hot coal and waits until NuDooM happens
>kills the demons
>wrecks a slice of hell for sass
>to be continued
Not seeing the parallel.
375cf2 No.16132250
>>16132191
He was just trying to go home.
a9ec34 No.16132265
>>16132222
Doomguy deliberately put himself into Hell and decided since he couldn't escape he'd just kill until he was free. Before that stupid nuDoom plot retcon. Freeman on the other hand is a deliberate oxymoron to his own name, they say he's "the one free man" in the future but really he's just a puppet pulled on a string in story. The guy doesn't even know or understand what the hell is going on in the future and he's literally blindly following people cause he doesn't know what to do.
a3874e No.16132295
>>16132222
Except that he isn't actually responsible for fucking things up, unlike Gordon.
a3874e No.16132299
>>16113863
>that nu-woman look
Why do so many current day women look like that? Particularly famous ones? They look like mongoloid half-breeds. They also almost look like they have fetal alcohol syndrome.
829f28 No.16132319
>>16132295
How is it Gordon's fault? Gordon did nothing but follow the instructions he was given in the test chamber. Other people provided him the sample, other people told him to push it into the thing. >>16132265 has a point in that Gordon does nothing but what he's told to do by everyone around him.
a3874e No.16132323
>>16132319
>"if someone MAKES me murder someone, I didn't murder them"
>"if someone MAKES me steal, I didn't steal"
Ok dude.
cf8d7e No.16132329
>>16132323
>someone tells me to push a button at work
>push button
>it kills someone
>it was never supposed to even be able to do that
>somehow this is my fault
Ok dude.
829f28 No.16132330
>>16132323
>following carefully planned instructions in a carefully planned experiment that no one expected to go horribly awry nor harm anyone is equivalent to theft and murder
Ok dude.
a7103d No.16132359
>>16132191
<causes the resonance cascade
He's as much at fault as everybody else in that section of Black Mesa. He was just doing his job, and an outcome that everybody thought was astronomically unlikely happened.
<never helps anyone escape black mesa
This is a fair criticism, though one could argue it's based on player actions, survival priority, etc.
<instead of saving the world just paves the way for the combine invasion
He did as best as he could with the absolute lack of information he had. He was basically just told to go to Xen and kill the big bad so the aliens would fuck off. He did and they did, but (again, as nobody suspected) different aliens showed up out of nowhere.
<fucks off for 20 years
Literally held hostage in time-stasis, how is that his fault?
<somehow has a personality cult
Dude jumped alone into an alternate universe and single handed-ly murdered the super powerful alien God-King monster, no shit he's got a following.
5bd595 No.16132375
>>16132323
But that's literally true
6500ce No.16132438
>>16132323
>multi-billion dollar experiment goes wrong
>put all blame on the guy who handled the samples instead of the execs who overrode all security protocols
ok dude
f79911 No.16132449
>>16122553
3 should have been DK and Dixie on a team to save Diddy, that way each kong had two games they were playable in. Kiddy was a fucking waste.
f79911 No.16132457
>>16132323
There's a wide gap between doing something on purpose and accidentally causing it, though. Gordon had no idea that shit would have happened, and if he did I'm pretty sure he would have tried to abort the experiment.
f5a3ef No.16132732
Look me in the eye and tell me that ffXII couldn't of happened without Vaan.
6c0c32 No.16132734
>>16132732
NO ONE is denying that. The brat was a worse version of Tidus (who while he was mainly a support role to Yuna, WAS ACTUALLY RELEVANT and not just a narrator).
f5a3ef No.16132771
>>16132755
*couldn't've
Are you happy now anon?
fa33e2 No.16132789
>>16132771
*couldn't've'hap'w/o him
b46333 No.16132797
>>16132359
>Dude jumped alone into an alternate universe and single handed-ly murdered the super powerful alien God-King monster, no shit he's got a following.
Did the resistance know that, though? I guess it's possible since at least someone knows he jumped dimensions, but I really don't remember them mention any of that; just that he was at black mesa and survived. They're really vague about why exactly they consider him a hero, really. I always rationalized it as them being just that goddamn desperate for any kind of veteran figure.
1d43c2 No.16133147
>>16113371
PLEASE FUCK MY SISTER LEON
885722 No.16133267
>>16113863
>B-but Claire is ugly so it's kiked!
Your sarcasm is terrible, especially when you post a pic which proves this statement unironically.
a0483f No.16133398
>>16132789
**couldn't've'hap'w/o'm
b46333 No.16133401
>>16133267
Did you play Revelations 2? REmake2's Claire a goddamn improvement.
e4e586 No.16135965
>>16132797
The vortigaunts told the resistance what Gordan did in xen
8b309a No.16135976
>>16113935
Fuck off Delita
22237e No.16136299
>>16135965
The scientists probably could have inferred it too, at least the initially killing. The portal storms that happened after was unrelated.
6b2fea No.16136309
>>16132265
What was the nuDoom retcon anyway? I despise "lock in room, fight waves of enemy" level design so I doubt I'm ever playing it.
fecfcb No.16136380
>>16113863
Sherry's kind of cute though.
54fc1e No.16136388
>>16133401
Claire is pretty much the only character that looks fucked up. For whatever reason she often breaks that uncanny valley threshold and looks weird even during normal gameplay moments.
01b2f0 No.16136390
>>16113971
>he's murdered like a billion Yoshis.
those fucking horses have it coming
70bd86 No.16136451
Fuck REengine and fuck people who think it looks good.
Dragon's Dogma 2 was one of my most anticipated sequels but now I don't want it because it's going to be same ugly shit.
54fc1e No.16136475
>>16136451
It's like when people turn on 200% emotions in the david cage games.
2d3222 No.16136689
>>16113942
Elder Scrolls lore is sketchy, but IIRC his name was Talin, he was a Breton, and by the time of the Oblivion Crisis he was around 60 years old if not already dead. I don't know what happened to the Daggerfall protagonist (it would be even worse if he dindu nuffin as he was referenced as the close confidant of the Emperor), but I'm assuming he too is dead or "warped". Really the only two heroes accounted for are the Nerevarine (MIA/KIA in Akavir) and the Hero of Kvatch (Mantled Sheogorath). It's just safe to assume that Talin died at some point.
3f5558 No.16136691
>>16136451
It was good for RE7 because the Baker's were meant to be hideous and disgusting to look at. Then they thought they could apply it to normal people.
2d3222 No.16136721
>>16136716
You know it's bad when Honeyselect looks preferable.
2d0ed8 No.16137070
>>16136716
Is that a zombie on the right?
b46333 No.16137089
>>16136716
>Unironically using a freezeframe of a scream to showcase a character being ugly
I mean she isn't exactly a 10 normally but come on, even a 6 year old has noticed people tend to look ugly frozen mid speech.
0914f8 No.16137197
>>16132191
>people used to call Half-Life 'the thinking man's FPS'
>no challenging puzzles, no character development, barely a shred of story
>realize that half-life fans were only saying this because Gordan wears glasses so he must be super smart which means everything about the game must be super smart which means everyone who likes the game must be super smart
3f1dbc No.16137212
>>16137197
but isnt he a scientist with a PhD in theoretical physics so he is actually smart?
e8c0bd No.16137273
>>16137197
>people used to call Half-Life 'the thinking man's FPS'
Who did? I played these fucking games for decades and never heard such a thing.
3f1dbc No.16137291
>>16137273
you mean you didnt notice everynormalfag ever coming out of the woodwork calling HL2 the best game ever and a thinkings man game? its around the same time HL3 memes spread everywhere even to people who didnt know what half life was it was hard not to bump into these faggots when playing various source and goldsource mods
f46594 No.16137333
>>16137303
give me back my coffee, you piece of shit!
e8c0bd No.16137340
>>16137291
>you mean you didnt notice everynormalfag ever coming out of the woodwork calling HL2 the best game ever and a thinkings man game?
No. My original post kind of implies that already.
What I did hear a lot of is that HL2 was "one of the best FPSs of all time", in more or less the same way that people keep parroting that RE4 is one of the best games of all time. I don't think HL2 is honestly terrible, but it sure as fuck isn't the best FPS in history. It's not even better than its predecessor.
>its around the same time HL3 memes spread everywhere even to people who didnt know what half life was it was hard not to bump into these faggots when playing various source and goldsource mods
So it was something rather recent. I probably didn't hear it because I was just hidden in my grotto.
005cab No.16137371
>>16132323
>>16132295
>>16132191
Gman gave the crystal to the administrator of Black Mesa and coerced him into experimenting on it. Gordon just showed up for work and did as he was told, by people who were doing as they were told by a guy who did as he was told by an interdimensional aging man in a suit with a raspid voice who gave him an unstable alien crystal for free.
1e829b No.16137399
>>16137197
>>16137273
> 'the thinking man's FPS'
Shit you're right. I remember that. It's been so long, I also remember people trying to do it with deus ex to try to give it more klout.
98f6f0 No.16137610
>>16137138
She looks like a weasel
b46333 No.16137650
>>16137138
>Still cherrypicking and using fuck you as an argument
Are you a leftist?
2d0ed8 No.16137672
>>16137371
Actually, Black Mesa had access to Xen before and the magic crystals, as we see in later chapters of the game. The G-Man was trying to stop the experiment, you see him arguing with a scientist when you show up for work.
5d6a58 No.16137743
>>16132299
You answered your own question
1c0f5d No.16138146
>>16137650
You're really bad at this.
0914f8 No.16138385
>>16137273
Various gamer blogs in the early 00s. And of course the fanboys that ran with he meme. I was posting on Penny Arcade at the time.
>>16137138
I don't see the problem.
>>16136716
This looks more like a lighting/normals issue. A lot of games are making everyone glossy as fuck and it's a little disturbing.