/v/ - Video Games

>>16106597

I really didn't know what to expect. It was a very bewildering adventure to play this game.

>>16106700

I remember when I was a kid I wanted to play PoR so badly, but the computer my family had at the time was too basic for it. Instead I rented the NES version of the game, actually wasn't too bad of a port, even wrote down the transfer codes for my party at the end of it, hoping for a sequel that never came. Finally played the full series years later, probably early 2000s also, after buying a Gold Box compilation, though I didn't have Eye in mine.

>european computer games in general

Those fucking retards think having multiple minigames means better gameplay, because those dumbed down 50hz dicksuckers cannot comprehend solid good gameplay they are allergic to the Japanese arcade games. They truly cannot fathom the idea that video game is a singular word not a plural on it's own.

>>16106884

>Richard Garriot

>European

>Europeans don't play and never Japanese arcade games because 50hz

You are one dumb son of a bitch, your post is like something out of 2008 Gamefags.

>There's no healing. You gain health by killing monsters and exiting the dungeon

>Actions as simple as moving or turning around requires using up 1/10 of one unit of food. Run out of food and it's game over.

Both characteristics inherited from tabletop RPGs and that simulate resource management. In tabletops however you typically have more options thanks to creative use of items, spells and class features. Since you dont have a DM in videogames, and thanks to the deterioration of daily life taking away time for amenities, games have gone the other way since so that almost no resource management is needed and there's no penalty for failure.

>there's a very limited selection of weapons and items bound to keys

Legitimate complaint

>the vector graphics make it especially hard, and often impossible, to tell the difference between a blank wall and a passageway.

Do you see horizontal lines on the top and bottom? That's a wall. Don't see them? That's a dark room. You should have figured that out within a second of finding either.

>Navigating dungeons is a hopeless endeavor because everything looks the same with the vector graphics, there is no compass to tell you where north is, and it's so easy to get disoriented and disorientated that it's pointless to draw your own map.

Keeping track of your orientation yourself isn't hard. It wont change unless you press left or right. When you do, it changes accordingly. And someone already drew those maps (for a walkthrough) so it can't be pointless.

>>16107424

I know right? French fries are huge weeb fags, they must have played every nip game available.

aw dude i love games with vector graphics

>>16106597

That actually makes the game sound impressive. Lot of bigger companies that have made far worse games back then.

The Dark Spire was inSpired by games like this. It even has a vector graphics mode.

>>16106587

>the vector graphics make it especially hard, and often impossible, to tell the difference between a blank wall and a passageway.

There is no single representation easier to tell what are walls and what aren't you fuckin' faggot. You can't miss when a wall changes into a corridor because it's the only thing drawn on the screen. Walls aren't drawn - wall breaks are. It is otherwise not very well designed from a video game standpoint (being an adaptation of tabletop RPGs via Garriot's own flavor), and the UI is poor at it's function.

Too bad a remake of any of Richard Garriot's games will never happen because he is too busy complaining about Trump and enabling furries to even properly finish publicly jerking himself off like he's been doing for the past 20 years. He's awfully full of himself for someone whose crowning achievement was almost 30 years ago.

>>16106611

>>16106611

Welcome to true Dungeon Crawling, a gauntlet of endurance to test your ability to memorize where you are and correctly estimating the amount of resources you have so you don't run out and die. You're pretty retarded if you couldn't tell walls apart though.

Games having lives and games being difficult are two of the biggest ones that today's devs just cant seem to let go of.

>>16106587

>There's no healing. You gain health by killing monsters and exiting the dungeon

This was a thing in a Zelda game I think. One of the DS ones had a timer in it that was basically a second life bar that only recovered from leaving the dungeon.

I sort of miss having games that had stiff controls. It's all about being smooth and responsive controls but I'd argue slow and stiff ones have merit. Off the top my head it would be a good way to act as a punishment for the player fucking up like being dazed. Or be the main control of something like a mech fighting game, it's slow and clunky because you're controlling a giant fucking robot that don't move too good.

Sort of forces a predictive style of gameplay instead of reactionary, that alone is something that is rare now. Being able to out think other players is somehow always put under out playing them, you can't have a game all about being two steps ahead of the enemies but you just have to be able to quickly change plans, react to their actions in the instant.

>>16108467

>games being difficult

you what mate?

>>16108467

Found the game journalist.

Waypoints and map markers. That trash got old immediately after it was spawned.

Isn't the Akalabeth the part of the Silmarillion that details the fall of Númenór?

>>16109006

Oh fuck, yeah, that shit is pure garbage and ruins every game they're in. Completely fucking destroys any investment you might have in navigation.

>>16109014

Reminds me of stealth games like Thief which had a wonderful map and interesting things springing from that, and then you have games "inspired by Thief" like Dishonored which throws that right out the window and fills the void with map markers. It just takes a massive shit all over your level design for no reason at all.

Styx had map markers and it was infinitely better with it off, because it had a map. The map was interesting, since it was a floor plan with no compass or location for Styx, just key features of major rooms to help you orient yourself. I really enjoyed those maps, since you'd sometimes get a little bit lost and only have a rough idea where you are until you hunt down the next key feature.

Then Styx 2 came out and took a massive shit all over the gameplay by tossing out the map, relying entirely on map markers, (Not even verbal hints to objectives. If you turn off map markers you are 100% lost.) and throwing in loads of memes and ebin 4th wall breaks as an extra spit in the eye.

>>16109348

Normalfags just want a chore to fill their time instead of a well crafted pasttime.

That's all modern games with few exceptions fill to me, chores.

>>16109369

>fill

I need some sleep

>>16109477

ur mom needs sleep lol

>>16109541

It's true

I got my insomnia from her after all

>>16106587

Inventory management is something which, antiquated or not, I have never been able to stand. Obviously managing items and doing it properly under pressure can be part of a game's challenge, but I derive zero joy from doing it and oftentimes it means the developers didn't want to design a functional inventory system.

>>16109348

>Styx

I saw the first one and it looked neat, but I wasn't sure about playing/buying it. Would you say it's worth a pirate if I like stealth games?

>>16109369

>>16109477

It's perfectly accurate to say something fills time, anon.

>>16106587

>Akalabeth

isnt that game the prototype for ultima?

is it worth playing as just a nice bit of vidya history?

>>16110220

Actually, it's pretty fun. Once you build up your character: it feels satisfying to take on seven enemies lining up to get chopped to bits and the vector graphics give the game a lot of visual appeal.

>>16106587

The lack of navigational aids is 100% deliberate, you're supposed to maintain your own map, keep track of your own movements and use landmarks (doorways, intersections etc) to orient yourself. This is also the whole point of the food mechanic, it's there to encourage you to navigate as efficiently as possible and refrain from brute-forcing or random wandering (other games use random encounters for largely the same purpose). All of this is pretty standard fare for dungeon crawlers, if you had trouble with Akalabeth I'd hate to see you try Wizardry or SMT.

>>16109717

>Would you say it's worth a pirate if I like stealth games?

Haven't tried the second one, but what I can tell you about the first is that, at times, it feels more like a Puzzle than a Stealth game.

As in, you'll enter a room, see the guards patrolling around and then notice all the environmental objects you can use to bypass\kill them. Some of them have a simple basic use while others either become more useful with upgrades or can only be used if you have upgrades.

It's not necessarily bad but it sometimes can feel artificial, like entering a room with an heavily armored guard you can't backstab and yet there's a convenient bowl of water\fruit from where he drinks every now and then, just waiting for you to poison it (in case you brought poison) or a chandelier you can drop on him with knives (if you brought some) with the right timing.

Then it grows to "There's 3 guys here and only 2 things I can poison, so I'll have to find another way to dispatch the third and… There's the ledge he patrols and where I can pull him down from".

It's up to you. I like my stealth games to be more sandbox-y to get creative and reactive instead of tackling them as a puzzle that needs a solution. And even then, there's still some fuckery you can do with your clones, invisibility and pulling some bait&switch sometimes. It's just far more limited than something like Thief or even Dishonored (which can be considered a problem but it's still true, you could do a lot of creative things in that game).

>>16106587

Git gud