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Is that mode out yet or are Yacht Club still selling an incomplete game?

>Gunbird

>at first playthrough it seems tame, five characters, a set of stages

>actually the first few stages are picked randomly and the game increases difficulty as the game progresses, along with the last two stages

>there's endings for each character

>But wait there's more! A second loop of the game as you get the ending with even more difficulty awaits

>BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE! There's unique cutscenes for each combination of characters, as this is a two player game as well

>>15946870

>Taking 1 part of a game and stretching and expanding it into an entire sub-genre of its own.

Runescape's Dungeoneering.

Puzzle Pirate's player owned islands and shops.

Pokemon's breeding, Pokemon's Trick House.

Sonic Adventure 1 & 2's the Chao Garden

Need For Speed drifting, mountain drifting, drag racing and the police

Terraria, but especially modded Minecraft is the opposite example. Huge amount of content for little results because the base idea is so mediocre, in Minecraft's case exceptionally below grade, which underwhelms all the content, which forces content makers to make ideas exceptionally amazing to even make a dent into the monotonous status quo hardcoded feel of the game.

Oh and I guess Ys Origin is ontopic.

>Three characters

>Every character plays differently, and has a different storyline and bosses while revealing more of the story and having "what if" scenarios

>Last character is originally an antagonist in the other two character's storylines, and is the real version of events

>hardest and easily the most fun of the three characters, even being more fun than Adol

>You've got like 6 difficulty settings changing minor stuff like enemy damage numbers and boss HP to boss attack patterns, aggressiveness and even changes up attack properties

>Once that's done a battle store is open where you can unlock some new stuff

>EX versions of all three characters where you can replay the campaigns again but your spells and attacks are beefed up because why not

>Arena style fights serving as combat challenges, where you can even fight bosses not present in the story mode as well as even play as Adol from the previous and subsequent games

>final unlockable is a schoolgirl outfit for one of the outfits where she uses a teddybear instead of an axe

I mean yeah all three games of that wonderful era of Ys do that but I like Origin the most.

>>15946904

As poor as the execution was I find dungeoneering to be one of the best ideas Runescape implemented post wildly neutering, mainly because finally there's something in this MMO that actually requires you to not only interact but heavily rely on both other players as well most of your skills, in addition to being a fairly engaging skill that can't be cheesed with money or afk.

Too bad it got old fast.

>>15946895

I swear if you pull up that blog post that details the amount of effort that went into that fucking garbage mode and how they had to modify the NES palette just so they can get that one shade of brown for their obsession with "diverse" npcs I'm going to be very upset

Just so it wasn't clear to you guys. OP is not so secretly a game dev, in a charge of a small team, who needs ideas and advice on how to create a good replayable game which doesn't take him 5 years worth of development time to create a Sonic-tier game where you rush through the game in 1-3 hour tops.

>>15950666

It's about time someone realizes this. In fact I think we should stop any and all video game discussion so that no chinese san fransisco developers steal our ideas.

>>15946870

If only Puzzle Pirates wasn't fucking dead because the admins (and their singular developer who actually works full time for facebook instead of actually writing any code for a 17 year old java game) are giant lazy cunts.

>>15946926

>blog post that details the amount of effort that went into that fucking garbage mode and how they had to modify the NES palette just so they can get that one shade of brown for their obsession with "diverse" npcs

I haven't actually heard of this one. Do you mind pointing me to it?

>>15950904

OP wants examples of easy to make games, most zero effort games are mobile games so it should be expected that at least one of them turned out good given how many there are. Go is a zero effort game that turned out to be good too.

Lazy mobile games aren't all bad, only 99.9999% of them are.

>>15946897

>But wait there's more! A second loop of the game as you get the ending with even more difficulty awaits

Loops are a trash mechanic and always have been. When you get to the point where you're playing the game for the challenge of later loops, slogging through the easy loop of the game that you've already mastered stops being entertaining. Loops suck, just use a difficulty select.

>>15951135

This is disgusting. The original game was well done, but the longer the development continues the worst it gets. I would rather have no additional characters than this travesty.

>>15951141

Anon, you misunderstand. This IS the original game. This is about the original game. Sure, tranny mode in the DLC is icing on the cake, but the disregard for limitations was just as prevalent in the base game.

>>15951156

Oh… I don't really know what to think anymore, mate.

I'm offended more by the fact it's in widescreen and that backgrounds have multiple intersecting parallax layers.

>>15954200

That fighting game looks even jankier than the actual game.

>>15954325

>hur dur 8 bit means bad art

>>15954325

It's moot either way since it's using too many colors. It's basically saying "we can't actually adhere to limitations properly because we're shit at our job, so here's the next best thing!"

>>15954807

I see nothing wrong with not respecting limitations while still smulating the proper look of it. The thing with Shovel Knight is that it still looks good and isn't 1 pixel arm shit.

I understand that the faggot devs said they wanted to limit themselves and couldn't, though.

>>15954325

The point they're trying to make for King Knight is that more detail makes it more tedious to animate and makes his profile harder to read.

What you posted are backgrounds, which are what foreground elements(the player, or a boss in a video game) must contrast with in order to be readable.

They're still retarded because they claim to adhere to the limitations of the NES but they often admit to ignoring those limitations for some shitty reason like making Tyrone the perfect shade of diarrhea for those social-justice points.

>>15951135

>The default NES colour palette provide very few tools to create a character with darker skin tones

Punch Out has multiple dark skinned characters like Doc Louis, Great Tiger and Mike Tyson. Or does that not count as "default NES" since the cart has included RAM?

>>15955695

If you look at a comparison of the dark skin for those characters vs the real life examples it's actually closer to a shade of orange.

>>15955750

Try playing with real hardware on a crt.

>>15955762

The dark brown you think you're seeing is actually a dark red or orange color which looks brown through a crt. Light brown, dark red, and a sort of dark orange isn't exclusive to the NES and was popular to use for non-White characters in Cartoons. Even if the NES didn't have hardware limitations the limitation of completely dark true brown colors makes it an unpopular choice for 2D characters.

>>15954200

>frame fighter

You'd think they would put effort into making it feel smooth and not be able to fucking walk inside each other. It looks fucking awful and uncomfortable to play.

>>15954200

It's kind of unfair to talk shit on framefighter, it was something more or less thrown in as side project for people to play, yeah it sucks and it would be nice if they actually made it more functional, but it was a minor release and should be treated as such.

>nothing different or unique about their powers

That's just a lie.

>they put in this game is hit or miss and when it hits they bet it like dead horse until people get tired of it

That's the most true thing ever stated about the game. Though it leaves out their bad habit of locking new frames and weapons behind new content at bad drop rates, forcing people to turn everything into a grind to get it as fast as possible and burn out on modes so badly they hate otherwise perfectly good modes.

>>15954325

That's the comfiest apartment I've seen in my life.

>>15956064

there are far too many "side projects" that die out a week after release to simply let a streetfighter clone go. They have build several actual arcade cabinets and custom gamepads. the fucking works.They arent going to change anything about it anytime so and it still hasnt been touched since September. im sure at some point they will forget to put the little scan things for the newer frames to use in the gamemode literally no one plays until they are reminded weeks later when some goy notices.

>nothing different or unique about their powers

>>That's just a lie.

last frame has zephyrs defection but negates melee and its turned into a power meter (which the ui has been inverted since launch and they still havent fixed it). an aura base sleep equinox. "disarm charges" when you can just use liki and nuke everyones weapons out of their hands and exulted anything is already boring as the other hand full of frames with exulted shit.

Guarda's 1 is an ash teleport into a volt shield pick up which is duration based instead of energy drain tied to movement. throwing the bloodball is literally just lunaro they didnt even bother to hide that. 2 is basically shield charge placements but with health gen. 3 is a build in rage mod and depleting your own health is not new.4 its basically a nyx absorb going off.

people look at this and just say "wait there are other frames that can do all this but better". so people just use the older frames like smart people should. There has been only a few times where powers did feel unique but its fucking rare.

>Though it leaves out their bad habit of locking new frames and weapons behind new content at bad drop rates, forcing people to turn everything into a grind to get it as fast as possible and burn out on modes so badly they hate

Its a given that warframe is a skinnerbox. everyone who dont understand that will eventually.

>otherwise perfectly good modes.

non of the new vallas bounties are "perfectly good" if you just consider renamed existing gamemodes okay. do this action and wait for x amount of time defending something. Profit taker fight would be interesting enough if it didnt have constant aoe knocks thrown at you while you juggle several elemental damages just to take down the shields.

Onslaught is just a clone of survival

abitrations is just lets make existing gamemode a touch longer

I dont even need to talk about defection

infested salvage has been in the game years before it become an actual gamemode. it existed in raids which that removed from the game because "it was too buggy and not new player friend".

>>15957017

>last frame has zephyrs defection but

Then you proceed with a paragraph of how all of these abilities have major differences between them. Being reductionist to the point of saying Warframes are the exact same is inherently dishonest, with the same logic you can claim every Colossus in SotC is the same because you just get to their glowing weak point and stab it or that Gone Home is a video game.

>I dont even need to talk about defection

Well nobody is making you but I'd love to hear whats wrong with defection.

>>15957196

>Colossus in SotC is the same because you just get to their glowing weak point

not even the same or i would be saying every gamemode in the game is get from point A to point B which would make this conversation a dead wall.

>hear whats wrong with defection.

I havent touched it since the event and its not a common gamemode now but it was very sluggish with escorting the defectors. AI would bug out and eventually they would take more dmg than you can heal giving you a hidden limit to how long you can go for. i cant think of a single person who actually use sythm exclusively for that mode. The event was fun finding frame synergies to see how far you can go but events have been dead for years

>>15957017

>"disarm charges" when you can just use liki and nuke everyones weapons out of their hands

To be fair those charges also function exactly like Nova's 1 where they provide 5% damage reduction for each one. Which is better than what you described but also reinforces your point.

>>15957196

Defection is widely regarded as shit. It's only run long enough to get Harrow's part.

>>15946878

Is Shovel Knight not a complete game?

>>15957792

It was funded with the stretch goals for three playable boss campaigns fullfilled.

That stretch goal has still not been completed, and as such I consider Shovel Knight an incomplete game.

What pisses me off even more is that fucking genderswap option was put in as a stretch goal but more playable campaigns wasn't.

>>15957799

Okay, I thought they were going to retroactively make gameplay changes to the already completed campaigns or some shit.

>>15957798

They cheated to get chocolate brown in Shovel Knight which is not what the Mike Tyson pic you're showing has. Since brown is a composite of red, yellow, and black you can just take red and get it dark then tweak it until it has a brown tint and you're golden. What they did was essentially ignore what the NES could do with colors because Niggers.

>>15957853

And they were brave for doing it ;_;7

>>15957853

They cheated because they're hacks. Anon's point was they didn't have to cheat because the NES was perfectly capable of portraying Mike Tyson brown.