402b7c No.15905756
>No Spirit despite being the most popular choice in the series
>Did extremely well on the Ballot
>is (kinda) getting a new game
>DLC is focused on Japan
>Sakurai was working with a mecha for reference
>All DLC characters will be from new franchises
I think he's finally got a shot, even if a bit slim.
454a74 No.15905770
9868bb No.15905773
>is (kinda) getting a new game
>DLC is focused on Japan
Explain further.
402b7c No.15905779
>>15905773
Joker was heavily requested in Japan and was even expected among Japanese fans. From what my nip friend said, he was one of the top requested third party characters.
As for the new game:
>>15897905
9367cc No.15905780
>DLC fighters need to be popular characters in their own right to drive attention of people who might not be fans yet to Smash
>DLC fighters need to be popular characters in their own right to sell a lot and make a lot of money
>so let's include some literally who
You're as delusional as Lipfag.
68718b No.15905781
Shut up Rayfag no one gets in before her.
>DLC is focused on Japan
>Has a Mii costume, a Spirit, a music track, an item and a reference in Kirby's down+B
>Sakurai considers her game a masterpiece
SHE IS COMING YOU ASSHOLES AND WHEN SHE FINALLY GETS IN YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT?
I will play her and have fun
402b7c No.15905782
>>15905780
He's Japan's Isaac.
df583b No.15905787
>Smash gets a MonHun reference in the form of a boss
>said boss is the lamest fucking monster in the series
>one that's almost prominent in MHW, which isn't available on nintendo
>but the dozens of amazing monsters from MHXX, which is on Switch, didn't make the cut
I do not fucking understand
9367cc No.15905789
>>15905782
I'm pretty sure Isaac is Japan's Isaac.
>>15905787
Don't know enough about Monhun but it's probably like Cloud, where he's shit and only faggots like him but he's "the most iconic" so they have to pick him.
9868bb No.15905790
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15905781
Lip is nice, but Thiana is the better nature spirit overall and Princess Shokora will make it into smash first.
9868bb No.15905793
>>15905789
>I'm pretty sure Isaac is Japan's Isaac.
Japan doesn't actually want Isaac in as much as westerners do.
62eeb2 No.15905794
>>15905787
Probably doing advertising for the new Switch.
c1ee31 No.15905798
>>15905780
Sauce? I've already tried reverse searching through different sites it but all came up empty.
9868bb No.15905799
>>15905787
I would've loved it if Brachydios was the monster that made it in.
62eeb2 No.15905803
>>15905799
EXPLODING FISTS
df583b No.15905815
>>15905789
Thing is, the monster they added (Rathalos) isn't iconic at all and it's widely regarded as a boring ass generic dragon no one gives a fuck about.
68718b No.15905819
>>15905780
>DLC fighters need to be popular characters in their own right to drive attention of people who might not be fans yet to Smash
>>DLC fighters need to be popular characters in their own right to sell a lot and make a lot of money
>>so let's include some literally who
Joker is as literally who as it gets. When's Spyro?
37f47f No.15905826
>no Metal Sonic echo
>no Jeanne Echo
>no Funky Kong echo
>no Octoling Echo, not even an alt
I feel like a lot of opportunities were missed with this Echo system and I wish they had explored it more. Also, why did they excuse Isabelle being a whole character instead of an echo again?
d79b57 No.15905827
>>15905781
I love how you out yourself in the start of every thread so you become super easy to filter.
Lets make a bet first, if LIP doesnt get in will you fuck off, sulk back into your goddamn hole and never show your ugly whore of a waifu off ever again?
>>15905787
Anon are you fucking stupid?
Rathalos is the flagship monster of the entire franchise, similar to pikachu in pokemon.
Rathalos is featured in EVERY MH game to come out and it is literally even on the cover of multiple MH games for that same exact reason of it being the series mascot.
Rathalos was the go to monster to represent MH through and through.
c1ee31 No.15905829
>>15905818
Thank you, anon.
9868bb No.15905830
>>15905815
Maybe Rathalos is just the Lightning of Monhun.
>>15905818
But anon, you are also forgetting that Wario is an acceptable puzzle game rep.
62eeb2 No.15905844
>>15905826
Metal Sonic is too good to be an echo, give that shit to Shadow.
62eeb2 No.15905846
>>15905826
Well the game was basically rushed out to market
df583b No.15905847
>>15905827
Rathalos is a fucking nigger with zero appeal
>mountains of wild badass shit
>exploding fists. lasers mantises, sandworm bull thing, a fucking yeti
>HURR MAKE THE SKYRIM DRAGON WITH A POISON CLAW REPRESENT US
9367cc No.15905849
>>15905819
>Joker is as literally who as it gets.
I know you're baiting, Lipfag, but you're wrong.
Final Fantasy XV was delayed to not compete with it. I'd say that that's pretty fucking significant. That, and it sold over two million. That's more than most Fire Emblem games, more than Xenoblade, close to where many Kirby games have sold and all around pretty competitive to many Nintendo franchises.
>>15905830
I'd go with Yoshi over Wario if we're allowing existing reps, as Yoshi had both "Yoshi" and "Yoshi's Cookie".
9868bb No.15905851
>>15905819
>Joker is as literally who as it gets.
Any Persona MC past that of 1 and 2 is by default nowhere near as literally who as it gets compared to any actual SMT rep.
68718b No.15905855
>>15905827
>Lets make a bet first, if LIP doesnt get in will you fuck off, sulk back into your goddamn hole and never show your ugly whore of a waifu off ever again?
Lip is not my waifu and the only ugly whore here is your mom. But yes.
>>15905818
>Eggman
Cool as fuck but unfortunately they're not putting any cool shit apart from Lip. Nearly everyone in the DLC is going to be a literally who swordfaggot from some JRPG. It's gonna look like Japan's version of Sans, Baldi, Freddy Fazbear and the Fortnite Air Bus Driver.
Really wondering when we're gonna see those "must-have" DLC characters because so far they've revealed two and both are trash.
cedc16 No.15905860
>Future DLC is to be from IPs not yet in Smash.
This mean no Geno ever. Get fucked puppet fuckers.
d79b57 No.15905864
>>15905826
Echo fighters are a shitty inclusion which literally copies the same fighters but in different models in the disguise of "New" fighters, its by far one of the most laziest pieces of game design I have ever seen in my life. If they were going to do the echo fighter thing they should have at least given the different fighters differing stats similar to Doctor Mario so their playstyles could still be unique somehow but no, they are nothing but model swaps.
>>15905844
Echo fighters are cancer but I agree that Mecha Sonic should be his own fighter.
>>15905855
Okay Lipfaggot you fucking cretin waste of a sperm cell, its a done deal.
87b134 No.15905867
>>15905826
Octoling stuff was a little too late into development to make it, seeing how Sakurai & co. began work in 2015 (also why Rex didn't make the cut). Splatoon 2 only got representation in Lil' Judd added to the Moray Towers stage and some music (all intitial music from 2) and some BMPs. Mind you, adding Echoes later would be relatively easier, but it wouldn't be part of that paid DLC since Sakurai promised no Echoes in those 5. That isn't to say that an Echo can arrive for free later, but you never know. Smash 4 got a few freebies, namely a free Mii outfit of K.K. and 3DS got Duck Hunt stage added in an update. A free new character is a bit reaching, but Echoes could a a tad different as one anniversary thank you, kinda like Medli in Hyrule Warriors. Who knows.
9868bb No.15905869
>>15905860
>>Future DLC is to be from IPs not yet in Smash.
I keep hearing this, but what's the actual quote from?
1838d3 No.15905870
>>15905860
That was confirmed misinfo by cnet.
What isn't misinfo however is Reggie saying each fighter would be a surprise, someone no one would expect to be in Smash.
We're getting Waluigi, Steve and Sans. Everything sucks and nothing matters.
9367cc No.15905878
Post never ever characters that are still more likely than Lip.
cedc16 No.15905882
>>15905867
>Wanting Niggerlings.
>>15905870
>Cnet
Way does misinfo always come from Cancernet?
>>15905878
Nep for Smash.
68718b No.15905886
You already know it's Lipfag, post 'em nerds
d79b57 No.15905890
>>15905860
>>15905870
Agumon still has a chance then!
>>15905878
Pic related
9868bb No.15905899
>>15905870
>What isn't misinfo however is Reggie saying each fighter would be a surprise, someone no one would expect to be in Smash.
I don't know anon, I'm pretty sure there were some retarded normalfags that did in fact slightly expect Joker to make it in. However, it depends on whether or not Nintendo BELIEVES nobody will expect the fighter, meaning Princess Shokora definitely has a chance in that regard despite my belief in her making it in due to it being extremely clear that fans believe Wario Land is neglected but also due to it being extremely likely that Sakurai will not simply go and make a "Classic Wario".
>>15905878
cedc16 No.15905906
Not shitposting here I would love to see the Overkill version of G in Smash.
1838d3 No.15905908
>>15905899
There were people who wanted Joker in. There were not people who expected him to be in.
a1eb82 No.15905909
>delusional autists like lipfag, rayfag and agufag show up immediately
We have been over this so many FUCKING times. The last four are Sora, Sans, Steve, and Default Skin, in that order.
87b134 No.15905911
>>15905882
I'm just going by the series' popularity. In fact, I feel it might be more difficult to develop Octo Echoes out of obligation to not just make a simple model swap and go all in on the design. This would mean all unique outfits, male and female, some item changes like Octobrush and Octo Shots and possibly changing the Final Smash to the Sting Ray since no Killer Wail in Splat2, stuff more Chrom or Dark Pit than a Dark Samus or Daisy. Namely it'd be modeling those 8 outfits from 2 base designs as a lot of work for an Echo set that ultimately might be too much for a freebie, especially with how popular Splatoon is. It would be a ton of work for leaving money on the table.
Also yeah, they'd probably make most of the Octos more in the brown tones overall
1838d3 No.15905912
>>15905909
Actually if certain leaks are to be believed the next fighter's gonna be Erdrick from Dragon Quest 3.
cedc16 No.15905913
>>15905911
>Also yeah, they'd probably make most of the Octos more in the brown tones overall
I suppose it would let me hit a nigger kid in the face with a hammer without getting arrested.
a1eb82 No.15905914
>>15905912
>KH3 due out in a month
>next direct TBA after new years' week
>announcement of Sora and a port of KH3 to switch Q3 2019
Sakurai and Notalent are two peas in a pod. Birds of a feather, you might say :^)
87b134 No.15905921
>>15905913
There's already those 2 Villager costume alts
1838d3 No.15905922
>>15905914
Sora is probably the one video game character who literally can't get into Smash
He's owned by fucking Disney and if he got in they'd have to put Donald and Goofy into his moveset in some form
d79b57 No.15905934
>>15905912
>>15905909
To be honest I wouldn't mind Sora, Steve or Erdrick, but Nintendo says they are adding characters that no one would expect and gamers pretty much forgot that digimon fucking exists, kids nowadays don't even know what it is. Including him would hit the gaming community like some kind of fucking surprise truck.
a1eb82 No.15905940
>>15905922
There is a precedent with CoM, 358/2, and DDD for disney working with nintendo. I'd honestly be more worried about Sans or Default Skin getting in, but I pirated the game. Fuck any idiot who paid $80+ to play this shit online, let alone buy DLC.
cedc16 No.15905945
>>15905921
Who do you think I use as a training dummy.
87b134 No.15905955
>>15905912
>>15905934
The issue with Dragon Quest stuff is the amount of hands involved. We've already seen how stingy Square is, even now with 3rd Party Mii costumes removed so not even Geno or Chocobo stuff. Now add to that Yuji Horii's ARMOR PROJECT, Akira Toriyama's BIRD STUDIO, and Koichi Sugiyama for the music (something that's been a burden for many US releases of DQ games for the orchestra rights) to the long list of copyrights. It's not impossible, but it's many hurdles to cross, and up to many people playing ball and getting their money, and whether Nintendo can handle the dealings. Remember, Sakurai said Nintendo gave him a list, mostly since it'll expede the legal issues by knowing what cards they can have on the table, which we saw Atlus and all was willing to cooperate before going through.
2cf70e No.15905957
Anyone that thinks an indie game will get more than a costume or assist trophy rep are delusional.
SANS NEVER EVER
STEVE NEVER EVER
SHANTAE NEVER EVER
c94084 No.15905973
>>15905957
Shantae's inclusion is plausible. She's the most popular character in indie gaming there is.
Not Steve tho. He's owned by a rival console manufacturer.
Sans neither. He's owned by some guy who literally hates Smash Bros.
9367cc No.15905984
>>15905973
>Shantae's inclusion is plausible. She's the most popular character in indie gaming there is.
You responded to a post that names Sans and Steve. Shantae is a literally who, relatively obscure even as far as indies go, overshadowed by shit like Shovel Knight and Cave Story.
>Not Steve tho. He's owned by a rival console manufacturer.
Who would do it for the money. Nintendo has done advertisements promoting cross-play in Minecraft between Xbox and Switch.
>Sans neither. He's owned by some guy who literally hates Smash Bros.
Which is why pics related exist, of course.
a1eb82 No.15905989
>>15905973
>tobyfag hates smash bros
Then why did he reference it in deltarune? I think you are forgetting the power of memes. Undertale did release on the switch a couple months ago, the timing is just too good to not have a bit of plausability to it. Imagine all the beautiful salt that would flow from the announcement. Just imagine…
Default skin trailer with Reggie on battle bus when?
1838d3 No.15905991
>>15905984
Hey remember when Persona 5 also referenced Smash and then Joker got in?
The evidence is all there.
We're getting Sans. Abandon all hope.
9367cc No.15905996
>>15905991
Weren't Shantaefags reaching about some quote from DLC from the last game about a party where everyone's invited?
1838d3 No.15906000
>>15905996
Except they weren't, because Shantae IS in the game. Not as a playable character, but she's in as a Spirit.
Sans is nowhere to be found.
4b0f51 No.15906002
>>15905860
He was there in spirit. :^)
68718b No.15906007
>>15906000
>Except they weren't
They were completely reaching. They misconstrued all this bullshit in the final DLC chapter as being a teaser for her being in Smash Ultimate. None of this was actually meant as such and just grasping at straws from her clinically retarded thirsty as fuck fanboys. There is no reason whatsoever to build up hype for a JPEG of your character being in the game and WayForward weren't doing that. If they were, they're every bit as stupid as their fans.
68718b No.15906010
>>15905984
>>15905973
Sans is not even the main character of Undertale, why the fuck would he be in the game instead of Frisk?
1838d3 No.15906020
>>15906007
>There is no reason whatsoever to build up hype for a JPEG of your character being in the game
If that's the case why did WayForward's twitter make a big, huge fucking deal out of the fact she was a spirit the day it was revealed?
68718b No.15906026
>>15906020
That's after the fact.
1838d3 No.15906027
>>15906010
Perhaps it could be Frisk. It could be Sans.
What matter is the fact that an Undertale rep is all but guaranteed at this point.
c94084 No.15906029
>>15905984
Shantae has appeared in 4 good games and Sans/Steve just appeared in only 1 decents. After being on the indie dev scene for 16 years, she became the most popular indie character on the block.
Microsoft likes money, but hates its competitors with a passion. Their enemies' success means less money goes to Microsoft.
>posting pic from undershit
Ok, fag. Whatever you say. Toby may have deleted the tweet, but he never wanted his precious characters appear in other games. Least of all, Smash.
1838d3 No.15906031
>>15906029
Toby is a massive Nintendo cocksucker. You honestly think he wouldn't fucking jump at the chance to get his characters in Smash?
68718b No.15906032
>>15906027
>What matter is the fact that an Undertale rep is all but guaranteed at this point.
No it's not, and anyone who says this is fucking delusional.
Frisk is a non-character player avatar and Sans is a tertiary character who appears as the final boss in a genocide run. Also the DLC was decided long before Undertale was even ported to Switch.
1838d3 No.15906035
>>15906032
And the DLC was also decided before Persona Q2 came out in Japan. Your point?
9367cc No.15906036
>>15906010
Because most fans of Undertale never played Undertale.
68718b No.15906044
>>15906035
Shin Megami Tensei is a long-running historic franchise that began on the Super Famicom. Joker is in on the same technicality as Cloud in that he's the most popular character from his franchise where each game is self-contained stories. That's a far cry from Undertale.
1838d3 No.15906048
>>15906044
Well, that is a good point. But the thing is, the DLC was not ALL decided before Undertale was ported to the Switch. Sakurai tweeted a few days after the final direct announcing that the DLC lineup had finally been completed.
Perhaps they made the decision to do DLC before the Undertale port, but they did not decide who would be in that lineup before the Undertale port.
I feel like we both think we're being the pessimistic one here for different reasons.
68718b No.15906053
>>15906048
Let's say you're right and the DLC was decided later. Even still there's a million more worthy and deserving franchises than fucking Undertale.
But then again worthiness doesn't matter because Joker and a Piranha Plant are in
c94084 No.15906068
>>15906031
He wouldn't. None of his stuff appeared on Nintendo first. Only PC. and also,
>implying the cocksucker has any clout
Nintendo already owns Earthbound/Mother. Why would they ever want characters from a nobody's knockoff game? It just doesn't make any sense.
At least WayForward's Shantae has clout with Nintendo. All her games primarily appeared on the Big N's systems. And unlike Toby, Matt Bozon is a real fan of Nintendo.
87b134 No.15906129
>>15906068
It doesn't hurt that Shantae, like many of the odd and unusual Spirits and Assist Trophies being included, is that Nintendo has publishing rights for them in Japan. Shantate, Shovel Knight, the later Fatal Frames and Culdcepts, even that last Glory of Heracles, all are in because Nintendo has some stake in their distribution. Rayman's in mostly thanks to Ubi's involvement with that Rabbid Mario crossover and Miyamoto being a fan of that series. If anything, it's odd that Commander Video got a trophy in SSB4 Wii U, since aside from appearing on their consoles, Nintendo has no holdings for the series.
>>15906068
Nintendo doesn't FULLY own EB/Mother series (notice Itoit's and APE, Inc.'s copyright for all the Smash games), but they own a chunk of it the same as Pokemon. The Mother series does seem to have some odd issue with not allowing original music and using remixes only– something done even for any official soundtrack.
31df65 No.15906139
>tfw no homerun
>tfw no targets
>tfw no classic
>tfw spirit board and adventure mode are literally the same thing
I already feel like I'm out of things to do.
68718b No.15906232
>>15906139
The game is pretty barebones. It's like it was designed for tourneyfags. Nothing really to do but just play online matches.
4d55d5 No.15906346
>>15905826
>Also, why did they excuse Isabelle being a whole character instead of an echo again?
Her body type is different compared to Villager. Villager has the short body based off AC games pre-New Leaf. Isabelle has a taller body than that version of the past Villager.
68718b No.15906469
>>15905864
>Okay Lipfaggot you fucking cretin waste of a sperm cell, its a done deal.
And even if she doesn't get in I already have my Lip Mii Swordfighter in Elite Smash so I can still murder you nonbeliever faggots there by proxy.
df8e54 No.15906482
>>15906469
>settling with a pathetic Mii fighter costume
68718b No.15906497
>>15906482
>>settling with a pathetic Mii fighter costume
It's really good. You can even make the voice sound really cute and loli-like. I use Voice 11 High.
ca2aa0 No.15906502
>>15906497
I can also change the pitch of my farts in audacity.
68718b No.15906504
>>15906502
Good for you, Chris-Chan.
f1df7f No.15906527
>>15905860
If Wario and Mario are considered different series then as us smrpg
were not getting Geno, my bets is FE rep who is the next one to be announced, banjo or Steve, 2b or Sora and a mystery box
f1df7f No.15906533
>>15906068
I'd hate to argue in favor of Sans but the whole originating on Nintendo consoles was blown out the window since Brawl
I mean fucking Cloud, the mc from the game where square said "fuck Nintendo carts are gay" is in
515ec7 No.15906536
>>15905912
>not crono from chrono trigger
fuck it, i want an akira toriyama rep but it has to be rooted in a video game he worked on
f1df7f No.15906537
>>15906502
NK you fucking boong
f1df7f No.15906538
>>15905922
Except Sora isn't, he's owned by SE and Nomura
693b24 No.15906550
A new FE and Pokemon game are coming out, so expect reps from those to generate hype. Maybe a new starter and a shitty sword nigger or something. Banjo is another obvious pick, but that's up to Microsoft and if he does get in then there's always Master Chief and Steve :^). Shantae is the only possible indie since she goes back to the Game Boy. If Nintendo wants to follow up on their "unexpected" comment, then I nominate Pic related.
6fc60e No.15906553
>>15905780
>A potted fucking plant that literally 0 people wanted
9367cc No.15906558
>>15906553
>Is a character that people only dislike on grounds of "it's not who I wanted" instead of "it's a bad character.
>Is a character that most people agree is cool
>Is an early-purchase incentive, given out for free, and not one of the "core" DLCs
31df65 No.15906564
>>15906553
>he didn't want the potted mouth
Get out.
5d99cf No.15906565
>>15905908
>There were not people who expected him to be in
I did.
To be fair though I also expected it to be a tie-in for a Persona 5 port, but that isn't happening as far as we know.
515ec7 No.15906576
>>15906550
>master chief instead of DoomGuy
i hate it
445864 No.15906610
Why do people get so mad when I use a mii? Is it because my mii isn't a meme or pop culture reference? I like the character's moveset, but I feel bad when people clear out of arenas after one match.
ef8cb8 No.15906639
>>15905781
i wonder if lip is strong enough to pull that stick out of your ass and be crowned king of england
fd052c No.15906652
>>15906610
>Is it because my mii isn't a meme or pop culture reference?
Don't mii faces get replaced by the default ones for other players online?
fd052c No.15906654
>>15906639
It would be nice to have another playable fairy in smash.
445864 No.15906664
>>15906652
I don't think they do, but I could be wrong. Pretty sure I played against an Andre 3000 and some really goofy looking fucker that looked like someone just moved parts around at random.
ef8cb8 No.15906775
>>15905867
octolings were totally in the first game. they werent playable and they were a little different than the playable splatoon 2 octolings though, mainly their radical hair which really helped to complete their cyberpunk dominatrix look.
>>15906652
>>15906664
the face gets blotted out in the loading screen splash art in singleplayer at the very least. i do think i read that the names are hidden though. so good luck getting what youre looking at, especially without the closeup.
speaking of miis its a bummer that theres only one standard mii size. imagine its that so fighting them is consistent, but they could have given us a heavyweight too. bane cant be as small as rumia and a squid.
>>15906654
is the first one jigglypuff? isnt pikachu a fairy these days too?
0aa597 No.15906849
>>15906044
Joker has a game on the 3DS and Cloud is on the Switch with World of Final Fantasy and the original FFVII is coming to the Switch.
Joker and Cloud are in because they actually have games on Nintendo machines.
5e029f No.15906941
>>15905781
Get blacked Lipfag. Lip is too OP for Smash. Lip can be a stage hazard in a Panel de Pon stage so everyone can turn her off.
>>15905815
Delicious bait. Rathalos is a flagship monster and mascot of the series. If Monster Hunter gets in, which she never will until next game, she will wear a full Rathalos set. Male Monster Hunter as an alt costume will wear a Tigrex set for MonHun 2 fans.
>>15905818
You forgot the Tetrimino. He'll be four blocks that morph into Tetrimino shapes as attacks.
>>15905867
They might be an echo fighter if you just swap current weaons with different versions. Though I'd take it a step further with a new style of play. Swap Inkbrush with Octobrush. Slosher with Tri-Slosher. Splattershot with Splatbrella. Splatbombs with Poison Mist. And Splat Roller with Dynamo Roller that you flick before slowly rolling in the ground.
>>15906775
Pikachu is in the Fairy egg group. So Pikachu can breed with fairies. And I thought about Pikachu breeding with Lip because of that. I hate my brain.
c09039 No.15906951
Ray got a Spirit though? Go home OP you're drunk
362abc No.15906965
>>15905847
>Being this butthurt about your gay monster waifu not being picked over the obvious and most fitting choice
362abc No.15906970
>>15906951
Ray 01 didn't get a spirit.
I believe Rays II and III got spirits, along with some older robos, but no Ray 01
96e4e2 No.15906972
>>15905756
>didn't see he has a Mii outfit ingame
OP is really fucking slow.
5e029f No.15906977
>>15905826
I wish Medusa was a Palutena echo, if not a new fighter, so I could stone gaze recovering enemies to drop them like a rock on the edge for cheesing easy scrub wins. And then get banned from online due to mass reporting.
e7a1fa No.15906981
>>15906972
we have a Mii outfit for King K. Rool and hes in.
96e4e2 No.15906996
>>15905826
Agreed
>why did they excuse Isabelle being a whole character instead of an echo again?
Basically, Isabelle comes from a game where the AC characters actually have a lower torso. The Villager comes from the earlier games where they didn't and actually use a warped body to give the effect. Had they warped isabelle the same way, she'd have been really fucking weird looking.
On another note
>Metal
>clone
Again, give it to shadow. Metal is so much different.
96e4e2 No.15907002
>>15906981
>Smash 4
>K, Rool outfit is revealed
>no K. Rool
>Smash Ult
>K. Rool was revealed in the game before the mii costume was revealed
>???
However, I'm stating that the OP forgot that there is a Ray outfit for the Mii gunner.
5d99cf No.15907005
>>15906996
So is Shadow though, even if you dont include shit from Ow The Edge he still has more than enough to make him completley unique from Sonic.
Really of all the character you have pictured the only one that would actually be fit as a clone is Hero's Shade, since he would essentially just be Link but without projectiles.
The rest can be made unique enough to not be clones, especially Birdo and Shadow.
96e4e2 No.15907015
>>15906010
It wouldn't be Sans, it wouldn't be frisk. It's be Asriel as he encompasses everything about the game as a whole. The people who cite sans/want sans are retards who don't remember that sans knows he CANNOT win (or that a single loss is all that it takes and he'll eventually lose), so he doesn't even try to win. Asriel went down kicking and screaming the whole time.
Watch, we're all wrong and it'll be Susie from Deltarune
96e4e2 No.15907017
>>15907005
The only things that set shadow's gameplay abilities apart from sonic is that sonic gets the Magic Hands and bounce bracelet in SA2 while shadow doesn't, and in Ow the Edge, shadow's only abilities are the chaos blast or chaos control, which require a large buildup to perform. Without an emerald, he functions exactly the same as sonic, just with air skates.
62eeb2 No.15907028
>>15906972
the first image is talking about fighters, not Mii costumes.
>>15906970
>>15906951
Spirits don't deconfirm characters, that said Ray 01 didn't get a spirit. You're thinking of Ray MK II and Ray MK III
5d99cf No.15907037
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15907017
First of all, theres no reason to limit a Smash character's moveset to only shit they use in gameplay.
Theres plenty of moves in Smash that characters never used in actual gameplay and were entirely pulled out of Sakurai's ass, like Luigi Missile, Sheik's chain, or Captain Falcon's entire fucking moveset.
Meanwhile Shadow does actually use those moves, even if the player cant access them.
Theres no reason Shadow cant use Chaos Spear or teleport as a Smash character.
Secondly, you are forgetting Sonic Battle.
507b45 No.15907050
What was the point of the cutscenes in WoL? Even with how short they were they couldn't have been cheap to do but there is no fucking point to them, no story, no fanservice, you don't even really get to see the Fighters in them. Its just glowing lights shooting lasers at each other.
>>15905849
>personafags are this delusional
At least you aren't spamming the thread again talking about how great it is journos gave it a GOTY.
a26add No.15907053
>>15907037
The entire DAMN point of CRAP Shadow is that he's Black NIGGER Sonic LIKE TAKING CANDY FROM A BABY, WHICH IS FINE BY ME
MARIA
96e4e2 No.15907118
>>15907037
>you are forgetting Sonic Battle.
It was on PSP and no one played that. And I'm more than aware one can bullshit an entire moveset for a character from scratch, but the basis should be the mainline games the character is from should be what is viewed for the primary moveset. Shadow has been a player character in several games and he functions the same as sonic (sa2, 06, sonic forces, heroes, even the primary gameplay of ow the edge), which was the point.
The point of people talking about Echoes was that so much emphasis was put on discerning them as a way to include "new" fighters and get their foot in the door by having them "shadow" their original character. Despite all the hubub, only 4 were added. One is especially notable for being "wrong" in Dark Samus since she NEVER used bombs and her beam cannon worked much differently.
96e4e2 No.15907121
>>15907050
>What was the point of the cutscenes in WoL?
Bait. It was all bait for the faggots who got into smash in brawl and to obscure the fact that there are no trophies, just the first results in google search and no bios. I unlocked everyone through classic mode, beat classic with everyone, then sat back and realized that there is jack shit to do outside of classic mode and casual smash matches because WOL is a pathetic grind that makes you numb to how the characters actually play.
5e029f No.15907128
>>15907050
The purpose of the ending is Game Theory fetish fuel and to tell the fans to shut the fuck up about adventure mode.
neveraskmeforanythingeveragain.jpg
>>15906610
I made a PoppiQT mii in a Maid outfit because Poppi is love, Poppi is life.
fd052c No.15907133
>>15907118
>It was on PSP
*GBA
>>15907128
>shut the fuck up about adventure mode.
because melee style adventure mode is too hard for sakurai and his team?
0c300a No.15907140
>>15907093
>His concept art is even more edgy
What the fuck
5e029f No.15907206
>>15907133
After fucking it up Brawl, yes it is apparently. If you want a proper Adventure Mode then I will assume Sakurai will demand to cut half the roster if he's still in charge as a director. Which I assume this will be the last Smash Bros. game Sakurai will direct himself. Now, I can see Sakurai returning as a producer for the next game where it's more decision making and less personal involvement. However by the next Smash Bros. game Sakurai will find a new director to take his place to establish an "all star team". Sakurai will mentor the new blood, most likely veteran Smash devs, as he passes on the torch to a new generation of fools undertaking the insanity of Smash Bros. development.
Or Nintendo can confirm that this will be the last Smash Bros. game to exist and the series is put to rest eternally. If you want a Nintendo cross-over game then it has to be a new IP.
ac430c No.15907207
All you dumb niggers arguing when its clear what the people want and what we are going to be blessed with.
507b45 No.15907228
>>15907121
> that makes you numb to how the characters actually play.
That's a good point. I regret going through it now actually because of all the bad habits you pick up during it, especially with the skill tree.
>>15907206
The series is going to go to shit when Sakurai leaves. Even with the missteps he has done, whoever replaces him won't have the clout to stand up to executives or the autistic knowledge to create fanservice as good as Sakurai. Expect an even more barebones game with blown esports pandering.
87f47b No.15907251
The DLC will be
Joker
Erdrick
Lloyd irving / Yuri Lowell / Velvet Crowe
Banjo-Kazooie
Steve
5e029f No.15907258
>>15907228
This is why I said I can see Sakurai as the producer. This means Sakurai will have full creative control over the project as he is the one making all the executive decisions on what is and what is not allowed. Sakurai's "All Star Team" will be his untouchables, his most loyal and trusted students and co-developers whom Sakurai can kill himself if they stray away from his trust on the project.
The next Smash Bros. game will suck compared to Ultimate. The question is are there enough confidence to make a new Smash game better than 4 and Brawl? If not then kill the franchise right here and now.
0b6347 No.15907273
>>15906232
If it was designed for tourneyfags they wouldn't have taken out For Glory and other assorted gayness.
The reality is that they assumed if they just threw in enough characters, people would give it a pass and not care about anything else. They were right.
Even Brawl was better as a party game.
62eeb2 No.15907297
>>15907273
>Even Brawl was better as a party game.
Ultimate is barebones, but it's not THAT bad.
87f47b No.15907307
>>15907037
I could see shadow as a unique character
he has a lot of moves just from sonic battle alone for dash, down smash, a special rojectile, dodge, running animation, idle animation, jab. That's what i saw from this alone, and the guy playing probably didn't use the whole moveset.
fd052c No.15907317
>>15907273
>If it was designed for tourneyfags
it wouldn't have items and stage hazards on by default, and not have the points for the default time-matches hidden by default.
3dcbde No.15907325
>>15905756
Here's your 2nd Bamco rep bro
62eeb2 No.15907326
>>15907307
Yeah, but he works better as an echo since that's what he was in SA2. His name is literally "Shadow".
bd7edc No.15907327
>>15906558
How about the fact that no opinions matter on the plant because you can't even get it until February?
62eeb2 No.15907328
>>15907325
>Meme Souls
>Over KOSMOS
690071 No.15907330
>>15906036
Did you choose that image as an attempt to support your claim?
It says "first experience", not "only experience".
62eeb2 No.15907331
>>15907207
Yeah, it's gonna be shit. doesn't mean we can't have fun with it until then.
0b6347 No.15907341
>>15907297
It's not that Ult is worse, but Brawl just does it's job as a party game better.
Items are actual items instead of this "pick up and have the game won for you" shit, the artstyle is this weird realistic shit that normalfags love, final Smashes are still flashy and do more than play a little cutscene.
I think the defining factor though, is that it was on the wii, something everyone had, and everyone knew how to use. Again, Ult is objectively better, but Brawl will still be the better party game by default. You could argue about it having more characters, but I don't think Joe normalfag really cares aside from Mega Man and Pac-Man.
bd7edc No.15907372
>>15907341
>I don't think Joe normalfag really cares aside from Mega Man and Pac-Man.
Joe normalfag doesn't care about Smash in general.
81f014 No.15907374
>>15907328
>good game
>over shit game no one has heard of
Is it that hard for you to believe autismo?
62eeb2 No.15907393
>>15907374
>Implying Dark Souls was good
62eeb2 No.15907402
>>15907341
I disagree about the realistic style since I'm pretty sure everyone hated it, but I DO agree with you on Joe normalfag not caring so much about characters. I mean the only character they really want is Waluigi, the rest are just memes to them.
62eeb2 No.15907407
>>15907403
I'm busy, it's fucking christmas.
81f014 No.15907410
>>15907407
>I'm busy
I didn't realize having shit taste was a full-time job.
62eeb2 No.15907422
>>15907410
Say it to my face ben
6e37d6 No.15907424
>>15907407
I didn't realize it was a reply but you still have shit opinions.
fef0e0 No.15907432
>>15907121
I don't see what "bad habits" it could cause. The mode is just entirely stat based anyway. You just get the spirits you need to cheese through the matches. Every fucking fight is either insanely easy, or literally impossible until you get the stats for it. The only saving grace is some of the fights are kind of cute, but that hardly makes up for the shit gameplay. If I complete it, it'll just be for the main menu music change option.
I never even liked melee's event mode that much, but I'd have taken that over this shitty imitation of it that pretends its an "adventure mode".
Speaking of melee, does anyone else hate that this game plays more like melee? It's clearly much faster than 4 was, and I fucking hate it. I know tourney fags like melee, and I remember liking it as a kid. But when I grew up and played it again I fucking hated the core gameplay in comparison to 4.
62eeb2 No.15907458
>>15907424
What the fuck did you just fucking say about my fucking tastes? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class, I've been involved in numerous tech startups, and I'm worth over 500 million. I'm the one of the top leaders in Silicon Valley. You are nothing to me but just shitposter. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am planning to force diversity in the video games industry. Video Games are fucking dead, kid. You little shit. If only you knew that your little "clever" comment only made shit worse for everyone. Now the Japs will have to force diversity in their products, just like we're doing with The Americas, Europe and Australia. maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you you didn't, and now you're all going to pay the price, you goddamn retarded idiot. Tencent will be the world leading force once this is over and you will drown in tears. You're fucking done. I will squash you like the bug that you are.
1b33c0 No.15907490
>>15907432
>It's clearly much faster than 4 was, and I fucking hate it.
I wanna know what you have to do in life to develop tastes this shit. Only excuse for you would be if you are 80 years old and have extreme arthritis.
This game moves at a snail's pace compared to Melee, and you still complain. Maybe you should stick to playing JRPGs instead, gramps.
fd052c No.15907498
we need a fucking Gyromite stage.
why does R.O.B. still have to be homeless?
fef0e0 No.15907503
>>15907490
I actually do hate fighting games and only ever liked smash for fan service.
fd052c No.15907514
>>15907503
>I actually do hate fighting games
why is that (besides the FGC)?
62eeb2 No.15907526
>>15907520
>>15907093
I SEE AND HEAR NO EVIL
6e37d6 No.15907539
>>15907535
W-wrong thread! Haha!
bd7edc No.15907552
>>15907535
That would be a LOL-tier DLC placement anyway.
2f5418 No.15907555
I personally would like to see Arthur from Ghouls 'n Ghost in SSBU
>>15905912
That would be sorta awesome but hopefully he's not just another clone of a sword character like Link or Marth.
>>15906536
If they are going to have a character from Chrono Trigger then it needs to be Marle.
fef0e0 No.15907561
>>15907514
The thing I like about smash is that there are no built in combos to remember; that's a huge turn off for me with other fighting games. I have to memorise inputs, and then in the middle of a fight input them perfectly or get completely fucked.
6e37d6 No.15907584
>>15907561
My friend fucked her hands playing Street Fighter, but I couldn't criticize a fem for playing actual video games so I didn't go through my usual told-you-sos.
2f5418 No.15907615
>>15907561
I just hate how there is both two dedicated jump buttons and an up-jump. I know you can remap the buttons but I am a bit OCD about wanting to learn default control schemes particularly with the game that have a local multiplayer aspect. This is because I want to be able to instinctively tell my nephews the right inputs when they play. I can fully understand the control scheme in the context of the Gamecube controller but on a Joycon the button mapping is garbage.
>>15907561
Most modern Fighting games have been streamlined. nuCombos are usually relatively easy and most special moves are standardized. Down-forwards (Hadoken), forward-down-forwards (Shoryuken) & Charge moves (Sonic Boom) are the Bread and butter of most special moves in CY++++.
fd052c No.15907618
>>15907561
>The thing I like about smash is that there are no built in combos to remember;
maybe you can ask the fighting game thread about "proper" fighting games that are light on combos.
5e029f No.15907657
>>15907615
The jump button was a legacy input from Gamecube where X and Y were centered around the A button completely away from B. With Gamecube style I use Y+A to short hop instead of X+A. While with 3DS and Pro/Joycon I use X+A while Y is jump for Y+B jumps. For Gamecube I change X to grab usually while Z is shield. I'm finding Pro Controller more comfy for Smash than Gamecube lately. Outside of the lack of octangular gate and bigger C-stick. Or maybe it's because of Smash 3DS I prefer the diamond button layout recently. Or maybe I remember why I hate analog triggers for shielding.
31df65 No.15907675
>>15907651
>he didn't map shield to one of the face buttons
>not having at least 3 shield buttons
I'm also mad that (Dark) Samus' moveset is still entirely unfaithful to Metroid.
2f5418 No.15907686
>>15907651
>Remember custom specials in 4?
No. I didn't own a Wii U
>Imagine if a smash fangame replaced the second jump button with a new button.
It should be able to be mapped as the "Smash button" or maybe it unleashes the final smash. Anything would be better then it being another jump that can be accidentally hit. Recovery is a big part of the game and being cool under pressure when you are getting punted off screen is half the challenge. Panicking and hitting the wrong buttons is one of my biggest shortcomings when the chaotic action gets too confusing. Personally, I wish all the buttons somewhat correlated to the respective games that the character came from. It would be way cooler if mega man controlled like Mega Man and Mario controlled more like Mario, but that is an issue I've had with the game ever since the 64 era.
>The jump button was a legacy input from Gamecube
I know, and it makes sense in that context where A and B are so prominent and the X and Y are off to the side.
>I'm finding Pro Controller comfier
I don't want to invest in any of the peripherals because I'm a cheapskate but it's also because I don't want my nieces and nephews fighting over who gets the good controller. I am sorta forcing myself to get good with joycons for that reason.
2f5418 No.15907692
second half of this >>15907686 was meant for >>15907657
31df65 No.15907728
>>15907702
Neutral special would fire a weak shot when tapped and would be able to be charged when held. Maybe throw in 8-directional aiming.
Neutral air would be the screw attack.
Up special would be shinespark, maybe it'd work similar to Fox/Falco's up special in that you could aim it every direction (except down).
Down special would also have power bombs if pressed longer.
I would also have morph ball be Samus' own crouch-walking, just for fun.
As for Dark Samus, I'd give it some moves similar to its assist trophy last time around. Those cool phazon tendrils and such.
5e029f No.15907747
>>15907675
I'll have to test this to see if I can press X+A to grab instantly on Gamecube. Otherwise on Joycon/Pro I rather use Y for grab because I use B+A to Smash since C is tilt attack. And yes I rather use Z or L for blocking.
>>15907686
I have a Xenoblade Pro controller. Also I had a black one from launch because sync issues with Zelda with Joycon that still haven't been fixed. Sadly my black pro controller left stick is impossible to calibrate so that's defunct. It's also past warranty too.
9868bb No.15907815
>>15907775
>adding a new button
If so, the new button's moves should be referred to as Very Special attacks, with the Japanese name being Sugoi Specials.
5e029f No.15907838
>>15907775
If Mega Man comes back then what if his SS Button activates the Double Gear system? Specifically the Power Gear since Speed Gear would slow down the whole arena.
d32180 No.15907839
>>15905886
Sure, I'll bite.
I make no apologies about my shit taste.
860a8c No.15907860
>>15907839
>The Kid in least
Why even bother to mention him if you didn't want him in? He'd be interesting and inoffensive.
5d99cf No.15907874
How would you feel about these being added to smash?
First off, an 8-"pip" super meter. Yes I know we have the final smash meter now, but I already came up with idea before that was revealed for Ultimate.
Second, Guilty Gear's cancels. Just completley rip them offf.
-1 pip can be spent to reduce a move's endlag, effectively replacing L-Cancelling, but making it a trade-off instead of something you should be doing every time.
-2 pips can be spent to cancel a move during startup, allowing you to cancel a move you know is going to whiff
-4 pips can be spent to cancel a move on-hit allowing you to combo into another move more easily
Finally the full 8 pips can be used to enter a temporary character-specific super mode.
These Super modes would be powerful, but not "lol I win" buttons like final smashes are. You can still fight back against them, they are just a bit tougher.
Obvious ones would be Wario -> Warioman, Sonic -> Super Sonic, Little Mac -> Giga Mac, Lucario/Mewtwo/Charizard -> their Mega-forms, and Bowser -> Giga Bowser (Though obviously toned down from their final smash versions.)
For examples with character not already in the game:
>Cranky Kong drinks a potion and turns back into classic DK
>Poo uses his Mirror ability to transform into his opponent's super form
>Ray 01 equips some illegal parts
>Marx turns from his cute ball-riding form to his monstrous winged form
A Free-For-All Time/Score game mode can even be based around this.
A pickup spawns and the first player to pick it up instantly turns into their super form.
KOs only add to your score when you are in super form.
If the Super form player themselves is KO'd, whoever KO'd them turns into their super form next.
31df65 No.15907880
>>15907874
Sounds way more fun than "enemy's weapons are stronger. enemy is easily distracted by items."
5e029f No.15907886
>>15907867
Decensors revealed Krystal goes nopan. That's why she banned from fighting.
d32180 No.15907898
>>15907860
Because I just don't find him very interesting as a character. Inoffensive, certainly, but I wouldn't call him interesting, he'd just sorta be there.
2f5418 No.15907923
>>15907839
>my shit taste
I like your taste anon.
507b45 No.15907945
Is it wrong that I kind of like playing as Corrin?
Its a pretty fun moveset, I just wish there was an echo I could pick instead.
fd052c No.15907955
>>15907945
>I just wish there was an echo I could pick instead.
female Corrin :^)
>>15907939
i wanna ask Sakurai to leave.
4e8aed No.15907968
>>15907955
>i wanna ask Sakurai to leave.
Let's be fucking real here anon as we both know Sakurai will be making these games till he dies.
fd052c No.15907973
>>15907968
>till he dies.
how do we make the Yakuza hate him?
92fbba No.15907974
Everyone in this thread browses smash memes on twitter.
fd052c No.15907987
>>15907974
no, i don't, fuck you. go fap to zombie traps, you faggot.
2095c5 No.15908043
>>15905826
>this Echo system
I think describing it as a system is being kind of generous, Echoes are just clone characters given an official term. And I know that most of them have significant differences from the character they're a Echo of, but that's also true of the 'clone' characters in every other Smash game they appear in.
5e029f No.15908046
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>>15907955
Futa Corrin is best Corrin.
>>15907968
Can he be a producer next time? Truth be told I think Samurai needs to test his students with a few IPs before making a new Smash Bros. game. Yes the next game will not be as good as Ultimate in terms of content. However if they can make the game mechanically sound and with a high enough mastery curve then it should flourish well enough.
300e3c No.15908070
this face was made for throatfucking
prove me wrong
fd052c No.15908072
>>15908062
>he doesn't know about zombie land saga
5e029f No.15908079
>>15908062
Didn't you hear? Zombie Land Saga is LGBTQPZ propaganda now because one of the characters is canonically a trap. And we all know traps are gay and Hitler did nothing wrong.
fd052c No.15908128
>>15908079
>Hitler did nothing wrong.
he lost
2f5418 No.15908130
>>15907974
I honestly don't use Twitter after I got rid of my GG account three years ago. So I checked twitter and I have to say this up B tech is actually good know know. This image also gave me a sensible chuckle.
37f47f No.15908143
>>15908043
>describing it as a system is being kind of generous
I guess Gimmick might be a better term, considering they embrace it as a selling point. Honestly I'd just really like if the development team could take an approach to Echoes akin to how Kirby Star Allies added new characters. Maybe a software update with a new Echo release every few months or so to lengthen the game's lifespan.
1190fb No.15908154
c23b4e No.15908175
>>15908143
As long as they do not expect people to pay for echos.
68718b No.15908179
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15907251
>All these faggots posting Steve
Give up. Steve has no chance.
>>15907839
Bretty good list Anon.
>Meat Boy
I don't want him in either but at least the music would be the one saving grace of him getting in.
507b45 No.15908183
>>15907955
I'm surprised they didn't make her the default like IS has.
300e3c No.15908184
>>15908154
as anyone right in their mind knows.
507b45 No.15908188
>>15908070
I don't know why they made the render look so good then went out of their way to make the in game model look so ugly.
e07fd4 No.15908200
>>15907651
>Remember custom specials in 4?
Still mad those are gone.
e07fd4 No.15908216
>>15908207
Custom specials for everyone. I had good setups for some characters and I feel that certain spirits not changing up Mega Man's moveset is a wasted opportunity. He had Hyper Bomb yet Bomb Man possessed Young Link.
c23b4e No.15908221
>>15907251
>Nice fan fiction.
Now going with Piranha Plant the DLC will be the following.
>Joker.
>Bubsy.
>That fucked up hill with eyes from Super Mario World.
>Todd Howard.
>Infinite.
65b9bc No.15908224
>tfw smashfags will never ever ruin arle
006507 No.15908234
>>15908130
>implying Kirby doesn't use a hard r
9367cc No.15908243
>>15908221
>Todd Howard
The best and only Bethesda rep.
Doomguyfags can go fuck themselves.
fd052c No.15908249
>>15908221
nah, Infinite is too weak for smash
>>15908224
why is that
2f5418 No.15908253
>>15908234
nigger I didn't make the infograph.
9367cc No.15908256
>>15908130
Isabelle wouldn't say the N-word publicly because she's a politician, but her job is to keep peace and order in town, so she would be responsible for evicting all of them back to Africaville. She probably calls them niggers in private.
I also make all my anteaters say OY VEY and THE GOYIM KNOW every time I play Animal Crossing
d32180 No.15908298
>>15907923
>>15908179
Thanks, bros.
I don't mind Meatboy and such in my Least Wanted. I'd just not care to see them as anything beyond assist trophies if we have to have them in some form or fashion. The music in SMB is pretty great, though.
If anything, I'd like to see it delve further into the SEGA library. Between Golden Axe, Altered Beast, Alex Kidd, Shinobi, Yakuza, OutRun and After Burner, there's a lot of stuff there that seems ripe for Smash.
Not to mention:
>mario kart meets sonic & all-stars racing transformed
>>15907555
Arthur and Marle would be Godly. Arthur especially. I'd like to see more Squaresoft characters as well, but it'd be hard to do them without everyone being too samey. Maybe Terra, Cecil, Locke, Crono, Marle, Robo and Frog.
3dcbde No.15908315
>>15905886
I'm worried about the DLC
68718b No.15908370
>>15908315
Don't worry Anon.
It'll all be complete shit. The sooner you accept that the happier you'll be.
65b9bc No.15908400
>>15908249
As far as I know, the "one rep per third party" rule hasn't been broken yet, and we already have sonic.
1838d3 No.15908430
>>15908400
Richter, Ken.
Yes echoes do count
bfebd3 No.15908434
>>15908400
Capcom has 3 reps though.
9868bb No.15908452
>>15908400
Bayonetta is a second sega rep though. Not to mention Joker being a third one.
e9fae0 No.15908457
Is there a full list of all the music tracks or Mii outfits/headgear yet? I've been told there are 876 songs in total, but I can't verify it anywhere online. Same for the Mii stuff, they only tell you what can be unlocked through completing challenges.
bfebd3 No.15908468
>>15908452
Sega doesn't own Bayonetta.
9868bb No.15908474
>>15908468
They own Afterburner though.
fd052c No.15908483
>>15908457
>Is there a full list of all the music tracks
probably on ssbwiki
>Mii outfits/headgear
it annoys me that they apparently actually removed some of them.
e7a1fa No.15908513
Sam Fisher would be a funny character, and making him an Echo fighter of Snake is a no brainer. Them to adding in a Jojo is sadly out of reach, hell maybe even Alita since they are making that new movie that's going to shit on the manga almost as much as the anime did, I mean they added fucking Bayonetta so honestly anything is possible. And with how they have Joker as the next DLC the characters could be from anywhere.
>>15908457
Everything says at least over 850, and I'm sure an autist on a smash forum compiled all the songs into a comprehensive list or has already done so on the smash wiki.
bfebd3 No.15908539
>>15908513
Might as well ask for Goku while you are at it you gigantic faggot.
3dcbde No.15908549
>>15908483
Most of the removed ones were third party so it might've been due to licensing issues
62eeb2 No.15908554
fd052c No.15908567
>>15908549
>Most of the removed ones were third party so it might've been due to licensing issues
the Mii-Force helmet, lion hat, frog hat, cow skull and wizard gunner outfit were 3rd party?
e7a1fa No.15908596
>>15908539
I think you're the major Homosexual for putting Dragon Ball on the same playing field as Gunnm and JoJo.
c23b4e No.15908629
>>15908596
Correct me if I am wrong but JoJo is the anime with actual fags.
3dcbde No.15908641
>>15908567
I said 'most' for a reason, really the only loss there is the wizard outfit
76ca5a No.15908677
>>15908629
You are wrong and should feel bad.
e7a1fa No.15908684
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>>15908629
Is this the anime of a Homosexual?
You're clearly performing a ruse, but I find any reason to post jojo.
2f5418 No.15908708
>>15908315
>most ante newcomers
>King K Rule
>Simon Belmont
anon why are you worried? From the looks of it your predictions where rather actuate assuming that was an old image.
1838d3 No.15908731
Time to choose, /v/. Which path will you take?
fd052c No.15908741
>>15908731
i'll take reimu
9868bb No.15908762
>>15908731
I guess I'm picking C or B.
ef8cb8 No.15908766
>>15907615
what are default controls in a game where some people prefer 20 year old controllers to play it and theyve even put those back into production?
>>15908731
why is halo in there twice?
>>15907520
1838d3 No.15908767
>>15908766
>why is halo in there twice
That's Doomguy you fucking stupid idiot cunt
9367cc No.15908768
>>15908731
Easily A, since it has the only worthwhile character there. Shame that I'm stuck with Sora and Steve, but fuck it, half the roster is aids anyway.
2f5418 No.15908776
>>15908731
Erdrick and Dante are the practitioners choice. All the rest are pleb tier, but I will give Tracer and the 2hu a pass just for the sake of porn.
1838d3 No.15908783
>>15908776
You can only choose one set of charactrers between them. Either choose Erdrick's and contend with Sans or choose Dante's and contend with Default Skin.
It's an admittedly hard choice.
3dcbde No.15908790
>>15908731
as rad as Heavy or Doomguy would be I'd have to go with C since I can deal with Travis, Reimu, and Neku
1838d3 No.15908798
>>15908790
>I can deal with Travis, Reimu and Neku
Are you telling me you actually want fucking Tracer in Smash
d32180 No.15908800
>>15908130
>imagining kirby saying NIGGER! in his cute, small little voice
2f5418 No.15908806
>>15908783
>You can only choose one set
then I am forced to pick C because NMH and TWEWY are at least good games and Porn bait at least something you can jerk off too.
I chose E which is Erdrick, 2hu, Travis Touchdown and Dante
ef8cb8 No.15908809
>>15908767
well he should wear his tshirt armor so people dont confuse him with metroid as well
c23b4e No.15908814
>>15908684
They all dress like girls thats pretty fucking gay Anon.
1838d3 No.15908830
>>15908806
My personal choice in all honesty is A, because it's more of a net positive in that I get Phoenix Wright AND the Heavy Weapons Guy in Smash at the same time.
I'm willing to cause the Minecraft apocalypse to make that happen.
bfebd3 No.15908914
>>15908596
>he thinks Jojo is any better than Dragon Ball
It's all the same entry level shit for normalfaggots.
At least DB didn't get the Battle Royale treatment yet.
3dcbde No.15908915
>>15908798
Tracer is the one I can't deal with, that's why I'm fine with the other three
1838d3 No.15908918
>>15908915
Oh, I misunderstood what you were saying then
693b24 No.15909003
>>15908731
>mustard chef and dante
Too good to pass up. Option A is fine, but I have no idea what kind of kit you'd give a fucking lawyer.
392a9f No.15909035
>>15908731
B.
Sans is arguably iconic, I have no qualms with him as character, only Undertale's fanbase. It also has a Dragon Quest rep and DoomGuy therefor this set has the highest amount of solid iconic gaming choices. Dangaronpa Bear is the only bad choice I feel, as I have no idea how he'd play. Set A is almost all meme choices, characters who shouldn't be in Smash Bros, but are iconic nonetheless. Set C is garbage, Tracer is a forced mascot character, Neku is only iconic in terms of cult classic status. Travis is the only good choice here. D has 2 iconic characters, Dante and Master Chief, but has the problem of having Pokemon Rip-Off cat and Fortnite.
B > A > D > C
6b0200 No.15909038
>>15909003
>never played MVC3
8b2567 No.15909105
Any advice on playing Ike?
What moves are ridiculously unsafe, beyond the obvious smash attacks? Should I be practicing my RARs for approach? How do I deal with another fast swordy, like Marth and Roy (and their clones), when they also play the spacing game?
b9fde9 No.15909118
>>15908221
Infinite is already a spirit in smash, and his fight is better than the one in his actual game.
bfebd3 No.15909123
>>15909105
>Any advice on playing Ike?
Don't.
Just space with nair and fair, RAR is definitely necessary too
ef8cb8 No.15909147
>>15905886
in this day and age these should consist solely of super crowned characters
8b2567 No.15909151
>>15909123
Who's a good character to learn fundamentals with, then?
Mario?
37f47f No.15909154
>>15909105
Ike's smash attacks and neutral-B should only be used for punishes or hard reads, never anywhere else. His forward-tilt can be used to try and push back any upfront pressure you're experiencing, but is useless almost anywhere else. Focus on using down-tilt (or up-tilt if you're feeling frisky) to keep your opponent airborne, and follow up with your quicker aerials whenever possible. Use Nair if the opponent is pressuring you too much, as it covers most angles.
>Marth and Roy
Watch for their Nair's as well. Ike's RAR can be treated similarly to Roy's Nair, in the sense that it's your best and safest spacing option when approaching. Try to keep center stage so they don't set you up to be shot down offstage.
bfebd3 No.15909162
>>15909151
Mario, Marth and Captain Falcon are pretty straightforward and will help you get a feel for combos.
8b2567 No.15909176
>>15909154
Thanks, man.
So just to make sure I'm processing this. I need to keep them airborne, forward tilt to pushback on frontal pressure, D-tilt to knock them up, and I'd imagine all 3 of his sweeping aerials help juggle, Dair not really being used beyond spiking. I should also lab my RAR and shorthops, as just being able to do either would help with a lot of characters (Pit, DK, Mario, and Cap, all come to mind as having better Bairs than Fairs, for approach.)
Already I can see a big reason why I kept getting punished, and it was falling shorthop aerials on a grounded Lucina, instead of getting her up in the air before racking in the damage.
Also is dash attack a decent kill move? I got a lot of KOs off it, and obviously it's way better than a smash attack. Though I'd imagine that if you landed a Smash attack it'd inflict ridiculous "mental" damage, too, right?
>>15909162
Alright. Because yeah, I think I'm jumping too far ahead in learning shit, with Ike. I'm pretty bad at the game, but I had over 1mil GSP before trying him out. I'm at 20,000 now.
I dunno, I know the lingo, and the general gist of playing neutral, but losing literally 980,000 GSP in one night kinda is a huge blow to one's ego.
68718b No.15909182
>>15908731
The only choices with characters I want are A (Heavy Weapons Guy) or D (Master Chief). All the rest are trash, and every choice has at least one pure cancer pick (Touhou, Sans, Steve, Fortnite).
In the end, I choose suicide.
392a9f No.15909190
>>15908731
Ignoring sets
Characters I Want:
>Heavy Weapons Guy
>Sans
>DoomGuy
>Dragon Quest rep
>Travis Touchdown
>Master Chief
>Dante
The rest are ass, as if Sans isn't a hotly debated choice or can be consider ass himself.
c69977 No.15909197
9d8a08 No.15909217
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>>15908731
C is the only good choice. I can tolerate Tracer if I get crazy teleport and rewind combos out of it
0b6347 No.15909219
>>15909105
>(k)Ike
>Not Ourboy
>Not even Bootleg Hector
>>15909197
Definitely expecting either her or someone from Xenoblade.
37f47f No.15909230
>>15909176
Ike's aerials and tilts are his fastest moves with the least endlag, so keeping your opponent airborne is the best way to capitalize on it. If you think of Ike like a heavier Cloud, you can see how important aerials are in his neutral game. Walling out your opponent with Bair is the best grounded option you have until you find an opening. Dash attack is easily punishable if the opponent shields it, so I wouldn't recommend it. Bair and Upair are safer options but can kill at later percents. That's moreso just your judgement call as to how effective it is over dash attack. His grabs aren't too optimal either, but they're good for stage control in a pinch. I'd also suggest you watch the Smash 4 player "Ryo" play Ike in a few competitive sets, as it'd give you a few ideas as to how Ike plays optimally.
As for your question on fundamentals, I'd suggest Link, Chrom, or even Ganondorf. It's important that you get a feel for swordplay since you intend on committing to it with Ike. Ganondorf's limited neutral will also help you understand when to use smash attacks, since his new ones are so similar to Ike's.
8b2567 No.15909242
>>15909230
I'll give a look into Ryo, then. I might also just switch to Chrom, given he's probably easier to learn, or rather, not as punishing if you're bad. Either way, thanks, I'll take all this to heart.
fef0e0 No.15909243
>>15908768
You meant Phoenix, right?
I'd pick A for him alone, and just not buy the others. Maybe heavy if they do him right.
bfebd3 No.15909252
>>15909242
Chrom is just a crutch right now.
37f47f No.15909263
>>15909242
I consider Chrom "Roy with Ike's Up-B", so do with that what you will. If you plan on maining any FE character, do what you can do avoid the bottom blastzone. FE characters have a tough time offstage, especially when below the ledge, and Ike's the only one with a side-B that can be used for good horizontal recovery. But even then, be wary of the infamous Two Frame Punish Smash 4 introduced.
e07fd4 No.15909285
How does one go about getting the hang of Isabelle? For all the hype about her fishing rod it leaves her a sitting duck and it can be blocked.
37f47f No.15909307
>>15909285
Isabelle handles more like Villager in neutral than people want to admit, so offstage pressure is where she shines. Her fishing rod can catch opponents in the air too. Practice intercepting opponents offstage with her fishing rod, or similarly predict an opponent's getup move with the fishing rod. Keeping your distance is the best thing Isabelle can do. It's also possible to set up her fishing rod throw to combo into her Lloid Rocket special. Simply put, don't be afraid to pursue offstage, and think one step ahead.
e07fd4 No.15909340
>>15909307
I attempted offstage shenanigans with Villager due to his slightly better recovery with his version of the Lloid Rocket. Also, due to lacking online and friends my only opponents are high octane CPUs on the Spirit Board who only get hit by the rocket if I reel them in first, which isn't very often.
Also, the game has yet to tell me that her fishing line can be extended via well timed tilts (not unlike the Belmonts' specials). Figured that out by sheer accident.
37f47f No.15909359
>>15909340
It's the best advice I can offer. I hardly play or encounter either character, and Isabelle's only advantage is her makeshift midair grab with the fishing rod. Besides being a coach and saying "practice", there's no other advice I can give about Isabelle that you don't already know. Human players are more likely to fall for those tricks than computers, I know that for sure. If you're a loser like me, try going to a local tournament and playing some friendlies with some nerds who take the game too seriously. It's good practice.
e03479 No.15909394
>>15905826
>Also, why did they excuse Isabelle being a whole character instead of an echo again?
having a nearly totally different moveset helps.
996606 No.15909411
>Win ratio with K-rool has slowly turned positive
I have no idea why so many chumps fall for the blunderbuss. Or the crown. Fuck, how does anyone go for fully-charged projectiles on K Rool? Don't they know the gut check works like Roy's counter, where stronger moves hit back harder?
I feel like I'm cheating.
bfebd3 No.15909420
>>15909411
K. Rool is about as good as heavy weights can get after all.
96e4e2 No.15909434
>>15908175
>>15908143
What I hope is that they do what happened in Mortal Kombat 9;
>dlc for new character is made
>gets shipped out
>to make sure folks download it, include cool retro costumes for the default cast in the patch that is 100% free even if you never buy the DLC or the character
Just do the same in including an echo for free with each DLC release.
96e4e2 No.15909459
>>15908629
Nah, it just goes back to the whole greek god body appreciation as the characters who wear less clothing or fall into what would be called "homoerotic" they appear, the more dangerous they turn out to be.
5fa067 No.15909463
>>15907886
>Decensors
Is that what you call pausing the game and rotating the camera up?
96e4e2 No.15909465
>>15909463
No, it's what's called removing the black void, because some idiot wanted this game to have a lower rating than brawl or smash 4 and feared the panties and thighs.
507b45 No.15909496
>>15909465
Krystal doesn't have the void.
5fa067 No.15909508
>>15909465
What >>15909496 said. Furry vulva is okay, but Princess Peach's bloomers are haram.
ef8cb8 No.15909514
the maid outfit for the mii fighters resists the call of the void as well. though theres not much to see
e07fd4 No.15909515
>>15907886
Where are these decensors?
63895a No.15909517
>>15907555
>Arthur from Ghouls 'n Ghost in SSBU
I want Smash to completely swallow all other crossover games.
give me Terry Kyo and Iori along with Yoshimitsu, Magneto, Chun li and Goku.
68718b No.15909534
>>15909517
Who's gonna be the first western gaming icon to appear in Smash?
Diddy Kong and K. Rool don't count as they're secondary characters in Donkey Kong which was made in Japan.
Place your bets now.
Battletoads
Rayman
Crash
Spyro
Earthworm Jim
Doomguy
Master Chief
Scorpion
Lara Croft
Aero the Acrobat
Plok
Vectorman
Fuck Steve
ef8cb8 No.15909535
>>15909517
why dont you just buy the humans and put all of their ips in one game?
9367cc No.15909541
>>15909534
The only acceptable choice.
5d99cf No.15909567
>>15909534
Banjo or Rash, most likely Banjo.
2f5418 No.15909597
>>15909534
Rayman is already a Spirit and as much as I hate Ubisoft. Rayman is at least a good game series
9bfdc9 No.15909605
>>15909534
every single one of those choices is trash
214aa7 No.15909617
>>15906584
You have to look past your gut reflexes and stop disliking characters just because they won instead of your favorites, and appreciate the character for it's cool and unique moveset.
68718b No.15909633
>>15909617
I don't dislike the Pirahna Plant. He looks fun. It's just that I can't help but feel that the series has jumped the shark because of him. Petey Piranha would have been better because at least he's an actual character and not a generic minion.
P. Plant also proves what I've been saying for a long time which is that "moveset potential" isn't really a big deal as to whether or not a character can get in. I mean adapting actual material from the source game is always better to have, but truthfully you can make a moveset for any character you can possibly imagine so it's really less about that and more about the iconi status of the characters. Or at least it was until the Plant came in and fucked everything up.
ef8cb8 No.15909637
>>15909597
ubisoft also has might and magic these days.
so their rep will likely be elemental conflux for oldfag brownie points. or maybe forge because ubisoft wont back down to death threats
d79b57 No.15909640
>>15908629
There are fags in part 5 but they both get tortured to death in a flashback. Araki must actually hate fags or something.
>>15908677
Nigger, the episode came out less than a month ago that showed the dead faggots. Where the fuck were you?
9a3e3c No.15909689
>>15905826
>>15906232
The game was obviously rushed. It's major draw is the amount of characters, stages, and options but Smash has been shit for single player since after Brawl.
d32180 No.15909705
>>15909633
At least the Pirahna Plant is somewhat original. Sure, it'd make a better assist trophy/spirit than a character, but that same shit could be said with Mr. Game & Watch, Dark Samus, Dark Pit, and all of the Fire Emblem characters that are all the fucking same. And this is coming from a dude that secondaries Corrin
I get the feeling that the Pirahna Plant is a different kind of issue, like it's a placeholder for another crossover character deal that fell through at the last minute, and they needed something that would be quick and easy to animate. But that's just my own speculation.
I still love the game to bits, and I don't think Pirahna Plant is the worst character, it's just not a particularly exciting one, especially in the wake of Joker's announcement.
445864 No.15909719
>>15909340
There's a huge difference between those CPUs and other players. You're probably a lot better with her than you realize, so don't give up.
I'd play with you if you had online.
1838d3 No.15909727
>>15909705
This is a bit foolishly optimistic, but I think Nintendo told Sakurai he had to make an early purchase bonus character for the game, so he chose a character no one gave a shit about so less people would be mad.
3550e1 No.15909747
>>15909633
>P. Plant also proves what I've been saying for a long time which is that "moveset potential" isn't really a big deal as to whether or not a character can get in.
What the fuck, they didn't pull it out of thin air, all his moves are based on stuff piranha plants in the games actually do, or could feasibly do, just rolled into one. Could Waluigi stretch his neck out to bite someone? Even his normals look cool because he uses his pot to bash people, which is pretty creative and very distinct from other fighters. Your argument holds 0% water.
68718b No.15909986
>>15909747
>What the fuck, they didn't pull it out of thin air, all his moves are based on stuff piranha plants in the games actually do, or could feasibly do, just rolled into one.
That's what I'm saying. Every character has "moveset potential" if you strain your brain enough. Even a fucking Goomba could make for a playable and fun Smash character.
You got Paragoomba Wings, Baby Goombas that stick your feet to the floor, Goomba stacking from later games, Kuriboh's shoe, headbonks, bites, etc. So moveset potential doesn't really matter when picking newcomers for Smash, although it's a good thing to have.
d79b57 No.15910006
>>15909719
You bought Smash along with switch online for $80.
You are a colossal cock sucking cuck, anon.
Enjoy metaphorically chugging Reggies metaphorical semen every time you play that shitty game.
Also don't forget to go back.
>>>/reddit/
445864 No.15910025
>>15910006
>You bought Smash along with switch online for $80.
I actually play on my friend's Switch. Nice attempt though.
Also,
>reddit
Love you too, anon.
217416 No.15910033
>>15910025
Show your friend his post then.
d79b57 No.15910092
>>15910025
Oh really? Then thats cool then.
Love you too anon!
This doesnt stop your friend from being a cuck though
Good night
1be71c No.15910119
>>15910033
The archive link in the image is dead, anon. Got one that works?
2a16fa No.15910285
Hey spiritfags, anyone know where I can find the Majora's Mask Moon spirit? I understand it makes you permanently giant so I need to feed it to my Rosalina amiibo
42b437 No.15910318
>>15906550
Tingle would be very cool, but I'd rather they used his cartoon design.
fd052c No.15910342
>>15910285
You summon it
You need Majora's mask
87f47b No.15910499
>>15908731
Let's try and be quantitative about this
A)
>Steve
shit
>TF2
shit
>sora
acceptable. could be fun.
>phoenix wright
good
-2 +2 = 0 points
B)
>Sans
If it was Frisk id give it a +1 because the moveset could be unique with different weapons from previous human childs and friends showing up for specials or part of moveset. Sans is assist trophy tier. I'm gonna not give him a-1, just a 0
>Doomguy
+1
>Erdrick
+1
>monokuma
Danganronpa is trash so this is a -1
+2 -1 = 1 point
C)
>Reimu
eh, acceptable. +1
>Tracer
rather not, but she's not steve-tier. 0 points
>Neku
+1
>Travis
Personally I'm indifferent to travis, since this is about personal opinon I'll give him a +0
If you like Travis: +3 points
If you don't care about Travis: +2 Points
If you don't care about Reimu or Travis : +1 Point
D)
>fortnite
-1
>gaylo
-1
>yokai watch
0
>Dante
+1
-2 + 1 = -1 points
Quantitatively speaking, B) and C) are the only options, with B having doomguy and dragon quest without offending too much while C) offending with tohou instead of undertale. It's either B or C depending whether you prefer undertale, travis or danganronpa.
B) beats C) on everything except monokuma vs travis though, with sans and reimu being equally whatever. Doomguy is better than tracer, erdrick and neku both fine choices. I'd say B) beats C) by one point.
5ead83 No.15910505
short hopping on joy cons consistently is impossible. I thought those oldfags wanking themselves off to pressure sensitive face buttons were just memeing, but now I’m a believer
66a547 No.15910596
No more third parties in Smash, there's a ton of obscure characters that could do with more exposure.
6fc60e No.15910598
45cc85 No.15910616
>>15910596
>No Reimu
>No Kumatora
96e4e2 No.15910634
>>15909517
>Goku
here you go
96e4e2 No.15910637
>>15909534
>Vectorman
Man, I'd fucking LOVE to see Vectorman return.
6fc60e No.15910639
>>15907874
>Ray 01 equips some illegal parts
Fuck yourself, Ray 01 is a good boy
His FS would be the Soulboost from Arena, which would basically be a manual, longer version of Xerneas' buff with additional effects, i.e. increased jumps/air dashes, faster movement, and more rapidly firing weapons.
fd052c No.15910655
>>15910596
>Labrador Retriever
i'd rather have Robo-Pup from +Cats, because that one's actually original to Nintendo
>>15910616
>implying Reimu is Nintendo
she is (thankfully) not
6fc60e No.15910677
>>15909534
Shit, Lara Croft would be a good fighter.
Acrobatic melee like ZSS, guns like Bayonetta, grappling hook for grabs and ledge grabbing. Her FS could be throwing an artifact and whoever gets hit with it gets mowed down by a giant rolling boulder.
87b134 No.15910816
>>15909727
>>15909705
It could count as a early adopter freebie, but also seems like some joke thing the staff was making to goof off on downtime that grew and grew until they decided to throw it in as the freebie request
507b45 No.15910916
>>15910596
It pisses me off when people start talking about 'relevancy' and 'they haven't had a new game for x years'. I want random obscure shit from good forgotten games. I want Smash to be a museum, not a way for Nintendo to jerk off 3rd parties to try and get ports.
62eeb2 No.15910932
>>15910916
I agree, it's a shame really.
2f5418 No.15910954
>>15910916
>>15910596
I just hate how 90% of the characters in SSBU are reskinned of Marth or reskinned Fire Emblem characters when they could have used some of that development time to create more interesting custom Mii skins for some of the opponents in the world of light.
>when people make an appeal to novelty because old characters haven't had a game in years
I hate this so much even outside of the Smash series. I honestly still want a new 2D Kid Icarus game. It could be a cross between Towerclimb and a Metroid and it would be amazing.
9868bb No.15911019
>>15910596
I'd rather have Saki than Isa Jo, even if it would probably mean him stealing some of Isa's gear to an extent.
9868bb No.15911021
>>15910916
That's exactly the right attitude to have.
05115a No.15911285
So, what the fuck do I do in this game now that I've unlocked all the characters?
fd052c No.15911290
>>15911285
do all the challenges or play online
68718b No.15911391
>>15910499
Your tastes are absolute shit so your entire table gets -1000000000. You're not quantitative you just have taste cancer.
87f47b No.15911435
>>15911391
buttblasted undertalefag/ 2hou autist detected
3dcbde No.15911445
>>15910499
>>TF2
>shit
>>sora
>acceptable
1b33c0 No.15911450
My friends all disagree with me on this, but if we got a Monster Hunter fighter I would want it to be a felyne/palico rather than an actual hunter. We already got a hunter in MvCI and honestly they are pretty bland compared to their companions.
Plus I feel they fit a lot better in a mascot fighter like this. Imagine all the different palico armors they could use for alternates.
31df65 No.15911454
>>15911450
This is a really good idea.
68718b No.15911456
>>15911435
>Undertale/Touhou
>Implying I also have taste cancer
Also he +1'd those.
12be5d No.15911467
>>15911445
>Thinks Sora is acceptable
2f5418 No.15911470
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>>15910499
>Tracer
>rather not
are you sure? I mean I hate over watch but might plus one her if she begged me.
Marry Christmas anon
2a16fa No.15911489
>>15910342
Where i get it???
Hurry my rosie got a vore on
326553 No.15911547
>>15908731
I'd gladly take B. Doomguy deserves a spot more than anyone on the list.
e07fd4 No.15911686
>>15910954
>I just hate how 90% of the characters in SSBU are reskinned of Marth or reskinned Fire Emblem characters
Especially puzzling when there are axe and spear wielders in that series. Also, reminder that Touhou has as much chance to get in Smash as Neptunia. Which is to say, never times infinity.
0d0c66 No.15911691
>>15906029
>Toby may have deleted the tweet, but he never wanted his precious characters appear in other games. Least of all, Smash.
Is there, like, any evidence at all that this exists?
ef8cb8 No.15911841
reminder that the switch is a giant reimu tribute
fd052c No.15911850
>>15911841
not gonna happen
87f47b No.15911869
>>15911456
>doesn't know we have IDs here
>can't even read and makes up shit
I hope you step on a lego for being this retarded
ef8cb8 No.15911872
>>15911850
its like you dont believe in christmas
68718b No.15912012
>>15911869
>Claims to read IDs
>Fails to find and quote a single post where I expressed fanboyism of Touhou or Undertale because it doesn't exist and both those things suck
Truly the brain tumor is large with this one.
fd052c No.15912092
>>15911872
>its like you dont believe in christmas
i prefer yuletide :^)
9a3e3c No.15912180
>>15909986
This is why I say that if they were going to make a generic Mario enemy a fighter the obvious best choice is a Shy Guy. There are so many different variations of a Shy Guy and how they were portrayed over the years that the pull for his moveset would be more vast then any other Mario character. Not to mention they are pretty much one of the most iconic mario enemies at this point, above Piranha plant and even on the level of Koopa Troopa & Goomba.
>>15910596
>>15910916
>>15910954
The Smash Bros roster jumped the shark a long time ago. I will always be alone in my hate for the introduction and heavy reliance of third-party characters for this exact same reason. So many characters cast aside for the flavor the months and blatant advertising. People will continue to defend though and they have.
9868bb No.15912418
>>15912180
What would Shy Guy's final smash be? Anti-guy acrobatics?
66a547 No.15913158
>>15911019
Honestly, I only picked Isa Jo for that picture because Isa had a more dynamic pose. I absolutely adored Saki's game but haven't had the chance to play the sequel yet.
5e029f No.15913561
>>15910637
RIP Blue Sky after Superman 64.
>>15910916
When third parties were retro gaming icons it was acceptable to me. Sonic the Hedgehog and Snake had games since the 90's and 80's. Mega Man, Pac Man, and Ryu were also museum relics albeit overrated. Cloud was pushing it. Joker from P5 throws the third party standard out the window with a cringe reveal. So in retrospect I suppose third parties were a mistake after all. Because we will see Minecraft Steve eventually, if not in Ultimate then in the next game, if the quality of third parties degrade even further.
68718b No.15913573
>>15913561
>RIP Blue Sky after Superman 64.
That was Titus, not BlueSky.
5e029f No.15913585
>>15913573
Blue Sky was working on a Superman game for Playstation. Superman 64 caused Warner Bros. to pull the license and kill the project. Which in turn caused Blue Sky's bankruptcy and closure.
ef8cb8 No.15913644
merry christmas, smash containment thread.
>>15912180
i dont think anyone would be upset with shyguy. they seem pretty universally liked
5e029f No.15913663
>>15913644
Can Shy Guy's down B special give him stilts? Stilts is an evasive maneuver that raises Shy Guy off the ground. He can then jump on you with stilts to deal damage. Double jump or taking a hit directly will drop stilts. If you punch the stilts directly then Shy Guy bounces back which can be an advantage or disadvantage depending on which side of the edge you're on.
ef8cb8 No.15913978
>>15913663
i think stilts is pretty far up the shynanigans totem pole. sounds like demonic off stage pressure if he can use them in mid air.
how can a red potion/door be included? as the battle intro would be obvious but what if it were made into a special move somehow, i want to say as a projectile based recovery. would it be too much if he could choose when to teleport through the door to fake people out?
5e029f No.15914143
>>15913978
Not likely unless the red potion is fired from the sling shot. Spear would be a great smash attack. Also Shy Guy needs autobombs.
507b45 No.15914482
ef8cb8 No.15916895
>>15914482
they would have to shrink her down to scale so the hitboxes arent different. i hope youre okay with minigirls
9868bb No.15917731
>>15913978
>i think stilts is pretty far up the shynanigans totem pole
Whatever being is at the bottom of a totem pole is considered most important you stupid nigger/spear guy.
9868bb No.15917736
>>15916895
Minigirls are excellent, but wouldn't Navi make it in as the first minigirl in smash if anything?
5e029f No.15918723
So I found out something interesting. You can go from a neutral special straight into a side smash by holding B then pressing A afterward. After the neutral special animation if you fall long enough you NAir regardless of what direction you hold the stick.
You can buffer side attacks into FAir using B+A or a side smash if you land. And I tried it with down special too. Even releasing the stick after Mario catches F.L.U.D.D he does a down smash even after landing. This doesn't work with up special for Mario due to leaving him vulnerable in the air. It might work for characters that slam the ground like Kirby or Ike after up special. I haven't tested. Also up special doesn't buffer into UAir due to recovery state.
Let me know if this is all old news and not very useful. Maybe someone who can count frames can see if there's a difference between buffering and manually inputting the command. Of course tilts are still superior to smashing in most context.
a1392a No.15919476
I've got all of the spirits except for one, the Partner Pikachu. I was lucky to get a hold of my sister's let's go eevee and did just enough to get me the partner eevee in smash. Will it ever pop up on the spirit board or in the shop, or am I shit out of luck because I'm not willing to spending $50 on a game I won't play? The searching I've done only yields results from a few weeks back that don't tell me jack shit.
a1392a No.15919493
>>15911489
Your can find Majora's Mask in one of the shops, I think I bought it from Sheldon.
5e029f No.15920271
>>15919476
It's exclusive to owning the game kinda like the Pikmin trophy in Melee.
9a7d2e No.15920712
>>15919476
It's a time-limited exclusive; the announcement says they'll make it unlockable through regular play in the future.
Speaking of which, the Mario event they've got running has three new event-only spirits, so at least you can get those.
e19c55 No.15920875
I decided to try online for the first time and I got a nip try hard using the side special. They lost pretty horrendously since i was kirby and just ate them each time they tried. Are all online matches like this? Tier list fags?
e19c55 No.15920878
>>15920875
Inkling side special* i should say
ef8cb8 No.15920973
>>15920875
all video games are like that now, with people who "do their homework" to try to gain whatever edge they can. what bugs me is when people rigidly follow tier lists when its not really something that matters at their level. they think "this is a professional match, right now"
5e029f No.15921196
So I have a meme for you. Create 4 names where all the controller inputs are jump. Name them SBC1-4. Set no input for shield, attack, special, nor taunt. Then create a rule set for custom smash: mini, flower, back shield, curry, heavy, and angled camera. Set rules for Stamina (100-300) with no time limit (flower sets the time limit), no FS meter, Battlefield form only, and launch rate x0.5.
If you wish you can turn on items but only on high with the following:
Container, Bomber, Blast Box, Fake Smash Ball, Sandbag, Super Musheoom, Poison Mushroom, Bullet Bill, Bob-omb, Motion-Sensor Bomb, Green Shell, Freezie, Gooey Bomb, Smart Bomb, Deku Nut, Hothead, Unira, Bombchu, X Bomb, Hocotate Bomb, POW Block, Cucco, and Beehive.
Enjoy playing Spicy Blushy Cushy. Meh meh!
5e029f No.15921198
>>15921196
I forgot you can turn on soccer ball too.
31df65 No.15922968
>>15921198
Tora spill every last drippy drop of your bloody blood. Meh.
5e029f No.15923299
An update on the Spicy Blushy Crushy custom smash. You do have to assign an Attack and Special button. So for Gamecube/Pro I set them to D-pad. For Joycon I set them to SL and SR because it's sometimes easy to bump the trigger and bumper. (L/R and ZL/ZR). You don't need to set shield apparently.