/v/ - Video Games

I want to have sex with Todd Howard

but seriously, how goes the game dev?

Since OP fugged up the link to the last thread:

>>15839122

>>15889454

BAD

>>15889676

How do you keep track of nothing?

>>15889680

a zipper

>>15889610

That's… not good.

Every time I give thought to what would actually lead me to satisfaction in life, I keep coming back to making a game. Thing is I'm just another ideasguy who daydreams all day about the games I'd make but can't seem to find the discipline to actually sit down and make it happen. How do I transition from constantly-anxious wageslave desperately searching for escapism while being continuously dissatisfied with every game I play to try and fill the void, to actually being a game dev? Would starting with trying my hand at ROM hacks be a waste of time?

>>15890173

There's a lot of paths to making a game. Why not become really good at wage slaving? Save up 50k, contract out a 2D game, and bet on the 1 in 10 chance your game breaks even and go again.

>>15890173

>Would starting with trying my hand at ROM hacks be a waste of time?

Yes and no. No because it gives you a taste of several aspects of game development, like map/stage design and graphic design. Yes because it's so far removed from every other aspect of game development, mainly coding. You might want to consider something like Game Maker, as tutorials are plentiful, and you could make something simple and functional overnight. It will give you a simplified taste of what you're in for.

>>15890374

If he ever releases his game I expect suicide will follow shortly after as his paranoid delusions finally get the better of him.

>>15891309

>mostly tracks from semi-obscure ambient albums

post asap

>>15891318

A couple tracks from the game Rama (which I never played, I only know of it from Ross' Game Dungeon), a few tracks from a martial industrial group Arisk Priest, and for some energetic music I used some music by Feindflug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyEDjBDl7bM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvlvWnz2-bY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMn4jp55vlU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDo3iH5EGMg (I actually didn't use this specific track, but apparently the album Troy is so unknown this is the only song from it uploaded to YT)

Give me a good idea for a first game.

>>15891356

>Rama

I only ever read the books, but the music does sound nice.

Feindflug sounds like a diverative of the RA1 soundtrack. Sure does fit the theme and style of the game. You gonna contact them to use their music in your game or is it just a soundalike? you have any music goys?

>>15891401

Mini dustforce, you must clean all the dust in a room by touching or shooting at it, each level is contained in 1 screen.

>>15891421

well thats pretty good for WIP but some of the random guitar strums are a little too random and jarring

>>15891442

Yep. Told him the same thing.

>>15890173

You can escape wage slavery. Get financially independent.

>>15891533

I can't post progress because I can't make up my mind on whether I'll publish the game.

>>15890374

I wonder for how much longer his game will be in development.

At this point, I believe that even a semi-competent group of people could start working on their own weeb style Hitman game today, finish before him and it would probably be better, too.

Can you imagine his reaction if that happened?

>>15891905

His game will never be finished because he gets paid by the month, not the hour.

Don't forget the quirky bear game. >>>/v/15890864

>>15892241

he could be scamming ten times that amount if he made it an ero game

>>15892241

Patreon is busy purging undesirables too. How long before they have a problem with schoolchild murdering simulator?

>>15893164

A lot.

>>15893178

What's crazy is that it seems like them kicking off Sargon, even though he didn't violate their rules, seems to have gotten quite a ball rolling. Some of the biggest people on Patreon left. This is excellent news, if you were hoping for an alternative.

>>15893214

>defunding the controlled opposition

Hope someone got fired for that one

>>15893281

i want to stick my dick in that cliff

>>15893132

That makes me fucking furious.

>>15891866

>Get financially independent.

You sound like you're speaking from experience. Any tips, Anon?

>>15894172

Own a house, for one. When you're paying rent it goes to someone else's pocket. When you're paying off a house its also going into (((someone))) else's pocket but you'll eventually pay it off.

>>15894181

A house is also basically an investment. Any money you put in either goes up or roughly stays the same. If you get room mates it will also basically pay off itself as long as you're not buying a hugely expensive house.

>>15894181

I really like the idea of buying land and having a house built on it someday, but wouldn't it be a bit foolish to glue yourself to one spot if you don't have a stable career yet? I'm sure I could save to buy a house as in rent one from the (((bank))), but I don't really want to live in this area any longer than I have to or be tied to the opportunities directly surrounding me.

>>15894239

Will you be in the area for 2 years? 3, 5, 10? Are your skills actually necessary and in demand in the area? What is the property value trend in the area? How much of closing costs will you have to pay? Do you have the skills and balls to buy without a realtor?

This is one of those decisions. You will have to make some guesses about how your future will play out. You will need to do the research and do the math. Decide wrong and you will fuck yourself. Good luck, and make the right decision.

>>15894267

Depending on how long he's in the area as long as the housing prices don't go down he should at least recoup most of his costs if not make some money if he decides to sell later.

>>15891421

Her left leg looks good but the right leg seems likes its bending strangely (nearing the end of the gif) It could be my shitty eyes tho idk.

I do like how the entire body is in action though - it gives it a lot more realism.

>>15890139

How many SE Asian lolis did you consensually headpat with the explicit purpose of causing them to feel good?

>>15894290

I know that. It's a whole lot of "depends". In middle America you can't count on home prices not going doing. It's -1% or so where I live. Also, closing costs matter. Get someone else to pay them if you can. Also, exactly how long will you be there? It's a gamble and a guess on your future. You can get a reasonable % from market index funds. Which is the better % gamble on your down payment?

That's why it is in fact an important decision. You need to do the math, make the guesses, and be prepared to pay the consequences. Handwaving it away as you do is not smart.

>>15894239

I've heard from friends who do this for living that auctions are a viable option if your state laws aren't friendly to the "former owners" (domicile laws, evicting, etc). Tho, this is a moral gray area, and has variable payoffs.

Also there's a difference between "good" debt and "bad" debt.

Good debt is debt that has something backing it, and is even better if it grows in value (house w/mortgage, possibly shorting stock, etc).

Bad debt is like credit card debt, federal college loans (can't go bankrupt/default these loans it's basically indentured servitude by by one's own volition), and anything that has no backing in terms of exchangability.

This is a good lifelong plan to raise your families QoL for the next generation, as to invest in property, sequentially pay off properties over the course of a decade or so, and then re-invest again; building a realestate empire.

Though, yes, you pay (((rent))) to the government for the property (unless you have no services, like water/electricity/etc; so boonies/totally self-sustaining), and you have to pay property tax (else your property gets auctioned/seized); so you are paying for the privilege of "owning" land and getting services (i.e. privilege = it's not a right, it's something granted by the "good will" of the government).

>>15894195

seeing the model upclose now I've realised the UV job on this is a bit bad. This is definitely not the best case for Game Ready art. I think topology wise the artist has done a very good job overall. I think that the artist has gone a bit crazy with textures though, the fact that these are only 2K maps is a bit pointless when you could've easily have ramped it up to 4K atlases, thus halving the number of textures and vastly reducing drawcalls. (realise you can have 2 Tifa's for the price of one!). This would however depend on if the engine supported it. Since the artist is using Marmoset I can assume its an UE4/Unity target in which case you can easily go 4K no problems. Hell if it were possible I'd even say 8k Atlases but that would be a bit tricky since not everything supports them.

I'd also be interested to see how the model deforms under animation but sadly the model isn't a-posed or t-posed. Impressive model but obviously the artist is stronger as a sculptor and modeling artist than they are texturing and UV unwrapping. Looking at the diffuse its pretty telling that the texture job is a complete after thought this is very true if you look at the Normal Maps on the face, the pores are just thrown on and there's some bad normal bleeding around the edges.

Its amazing what good rendering is capable of covering up.

>>15894172

The idea is that you make money, spend little of it, and invest the difference. Once your investments can passively pay for your expenses, you can choose to either keep working in pursuit of luxury or retire and be free. This involves a lifestyle change that goes in the opposite direction of the way society is structured. There's a movement behind this called FIRE(financial independence retire early).

>>15894181

The (((banks))) bet against you. If you know how to handle your finances, you can win against them.

>>15894238

It's common to think that buying a house is a given but it's not necessarily true. https://jlcollinsnh.com/2013/05/29/why-your-house-is-a-terrible-investment/

>>15894239

If you don't have a stable career, you're probably best off renting. Mobility is important. If you buy and get a job far from your place, commuting will make you suffer. Not having to worry about a mortgage improves your negotiating power at work. Living within walking/biking distance of a job will save you a lot of money, time, and stress. If you want to buy, plan on doing it when you're financially independent. Learning to be handy is a huge plus. It's a good thing to do with all that free time. Contractors will screw you hard.

>>15894385

"Former owners" were irresponsible with their finances. Student loans are evil, especially since so many young people are manipulated into getting them with unrealistic expectations from college. They also bloat the price of college since people are still willing to pay out of their own pockets. It's also taxpayer funded even if the taxpayer doesn't go to college. Property tax sucks, you can't really own property. You have to live somewhere and even when you pay a landlord, that money still indirectly goes to the (((government))). The best thing to do about it is to be independent, minimize the amount of taxes you owe, and use the property for more good than harm.

>>15893250

Sick! Hey, I was wondering: how is it developing for SNES? I would like to start with designing something since my coding spark has been reawakened By fucking MATLAB and I was looking into some options.

>>15894326

I think you are right ill tweak it when i get home.

Regarding artificial intelligence, is it more efficient to adapt already existing AI completely unrelated? I'm curious about the feasibility of taking a chess engine and utilizing it for AI vs AI battles in a combat game.

>>15899198

Horizontal cliff doesn't look very good compared to diagonal and vertical, the flat brown ground on the top makes it look much better in the other two. Plus it's weirdly shaped as if it's a thick forest of tree trunks.

>>15899851

RUSSIAN

BOTS

>>15900176

someone call the media

>>15899851

What site is that?

>>15900053

It's an aesthetics choice now, it used to be used to enable "3D" graphics running on toasters.

>>15900309

My devblog, i made one to keep all my weekly progress records

>>15891421

What's the ballpark for what that cost you? I know I won't be able to do music myself without it becoming its own project.

>>15900457

how much time do you have to put out something profitable before you return to wage slavery? I have a month

>>15900489

about as long as it will take for bannerlord to release with half life 3

>>15900504

Be more specific instead of stupidly dismissive. How much money do you have in the bank? Do you ever walk around with large quantities of cash? What location would you consider to be your favorite place to hide things?

>>15900504

if you had a favorite number, what would it be?

>>15900530

My brother is being a cunt again

We have about a year

>>15900509

Great looking tanks.

>>15900509

Ey, Hensk, where've you been? I can't remember the last time you came around these parts, but then I rarely look at what the AGDers are doing. Last I checked you were hibernating, left off on a funny rivet car, now you're really doing the Orwell-Huxley-Golding RTS and drawing boobies in addition to Otto Dix midgetmen. And donut butthole cliffs. When'd this happen?

>>15900961

>>15900814

also I'm active on Discord as well, you can DM me on tumblr or twitter or whatever if you want my Discord handle

>>15901128

Draw on the basic details of quantum field theory. Ghosts obviously don't have mass(?), but can emit light so clearly they interact with the electro-magnetic field. In addition to E&M field there are fields for quarks, the Higgs field, and gravitational field. Possibly ghosts and spirits interact via the Higgs field. Make up some bullshit and ground it in science as much as you feel like. Ghosts do not exist so of course it's more fantasy than sci-fi, but you can dress it up in sci-fi clothing.

>>15901189

In the context of imagining complex fantasy (non-fiction) worlds I've found it's better to internally build a model for how it could exist, and why; or what would need to be changed to make it completely possible/explain the phenomena/mechanics behind it.

This doesn't need to be totally physically based. The audience will likely not mind as long as you can construct a logically consistent world that suspends disbelief; while not "tripping up" as it were to shatter their immersion.

Hence, building an internal, and logically consistent fantasy world; which will allow you to extract the knowledge you want through natural emergence of ideas that arise from the overarching concepts.

So, nothing too wild if you're not going for absurd while not building up the world for it, and nothing too scientific if you don't known EXACTLY what you're doing (you can build background of logic on it, but this has issues; as not understanding it COMPLETELY or forming your own conclusions on it for your world can trip yourself up, and exposing it to the player w/o knowing your shit makes it really easy to break people's sense of disbelief if you get any details wrong); i.e. see the bioshock using quantum mechanics being shat on for this very thing.

I find this approach to be really effective for writing, world building, lore, and so on; as you can immerse yourself in the world you've created, and can think "how would this aspect of the world work" in a natural, and unforced manner.

Tho, yeah, keep those world views compartmentalized, and distinguish between reality and fantasy.

Although, luckily, video games help in that department of willfully becoming immersed in a fantasy world (while being able to switch back to that "reality worldview" at will); which your brain becomes pretty good at when playing games.

Or you could do some shrooms, acid, salvia, or DMT, but hallucinogens are like cheat codes for unbridled creativity; tho it's w/risky for the idiots who disrespect it as "just for fun bro xDDD".

I'd recommend to look at writeaboutdragons on YT, he has some awesome lectures on this, and also neil gaiman and tolkien utilize a similar style as far as i can tell.

>>15901296

>non-fiction

meant fiction here no bully, i blame my lack of sleep

>>15901301

>Or a shotgun type weapon, that sprays salt or alcohol "pellets".

You don't need a shotgun for either of these. Salt would cause a shotgun to deteriorate. Alcohol would probably evaporate. You're better off throwing the salt and using something like a water gun or hose for the alcohol.

>>15901349

Rock Salt wouldn't.

>>15901457

Rock salt doesn't corrode metal?

Any 2D artists out there looking for a project? I could pay per sprite-sheet but I'd really like to use the same guy for all of it

Just like clean the barrel man. It's not gonna be there long enough to matter, if you're taking care of your weapons.

>>15901296

I agree, whether science fiction or fantasy, the world and the natural (or unnatural) laws governing it must be self-consistent or people become frustrated and annoyed.

I think Bioshock got shat on because they demonstrated beyond a shadow of doubt that they had only the most surface-level, pop-science understanding of quantum mechanics. They regurgitated bad and non-scientific interpretations of the theory that even hack science journalists would be ashamed of.

>>15901040

Reminds me a lot of Thief and Ultima.

>>15901040

>I turned off the Z buffer for the ghost block in 3D, I don't like that change

If it's because you lose sense of depth when it's drawn on top of everything, consider drawing it twice; one in one color without depth buffer, and once in a second color with buffer. You'd then get a different color for occluded parts.

how do you manage to not get burned out by a project?

hammered out the rpg engine in one and a half weeks and then had no time to work on it at the same pace due to life and now i can't get back into it. i keep staring at the code but i haven't implemented anything new, just minor code fixes.

i don't understand what changed, previously writing the entity system and chat scripting took a few days, with a lot of rewrites in that time, and now i can't get started on implementing the fucking item system.

>>15904156

Dammit, I forgot to remove the flag again. Just fixing this. Polite sage.

>>15904156

that's a good idea, i think it might work later, since usually when i get burned out i keep focusing on one part of the game (all engine or all art). though its not that easy to figure out when to switch before burning out. previous game attempts were all art and not having any code to support it, until i finally got burned out due to slow progress and lack of vision.

a bit of a blogpost so spoiler. the reason i started writing the engine is because i needed something to spend my time on, and right now i only have the thinkpad nipple as my mouse, so anything that requires a lot of mouse usage is out for me, thats why all of the assets are from opengameart also i really wanted to make a racing sim game instead, but for some stupid fucking reason decided on 2d rpg even though i've never played those in years

>>15900487

I paid $600 American burgers for 6 minutes of soundtrack. Composers tend to ask $/min. so I divided 2 songs into 3 minutes. His original ask was $125/min. but I haggled a bit. From what I see the average for a good composer is $100+/min.

>>15905618

What you should have done was asked for the musician to provide say, one second clips of music, which can be played with any instrument, and pitch shifted to whatever desired octave, and then arranged into whatever songs you want dynamically

>>15905618

>paying artists instead of finding and exploiting the desperate

you've got a lot to learn about game development

>>15905630

Lol I may as well just download a music program instead.

>>15905636

That's all I've been doing since middle school. This is the first time I've purchased something genuine without pirating or using obscure sound effects/music. Feels good and saves me lots of time.

>>15905645

Oh good you got the joke that I was describing individual notes

12/22

I split the layers into separate objects for ordering

I made a tool to help import Tiled maps automatically

I wasted 40 minutes tracking down a bug caused by using "name" as a variable, which is reserved, and only threw an error when the object was finally destroyed yes I'm mad

I've been trying to figure out a type of gameplay that blends nicely with a given story. I've been having a lot of difficulty doing this and was wondering what you guys think is the most feasible/practical type of game to tell a story? please no walking sim or vn

>>15905857

a game where you play a guy who is playing a visual novel

there's no escape, if you try to leave the game it becomes a walking sim

Not to stress anyone, but when is the next demo day?

>>15906791

02/02 http://8agdg.wikidot.com/demo-days

>>15905905

I'm stealing this idea.

>>15901710

/mu/ showed me how to fold.

>>15907231

>spending days over a problem where just three lines of code is the solution

That's pretty normal all things considered

>>15907231

At least you found the three lines, rather than turning it into a 2000 line abomination. Finding simple things is difficult, everybody can make something retardedly complex.

>>15907440

Bosses don't understand this and you'll get in trouble if you do it the right way. You'll get lectured and threatened to be fired over going with the 3 line solution instead of the 2000 line abomination. Wage slave programmers have to go with the abomination so they can look busy.

>>15906767

WAY TOO FUCKING LEWD

ded tred

>>15909642

Well it is Christmas and New Years.

>>15910211

Any game developed by someone that would consider adding those kinds of features isn't worth playing. The games suck even without them.

>>15911745

>giving Blizz money to play on their shitty, nerfed, altered, stripped-down client

>rather than playing on a private vanilla server which will be more authentically vanilla than the turd that blizz shits out

Top funny.

>>15909642

it's sunday, >>15911773

>>15910532

True, that's the sentiment of the free market argument. As it makes the process of seperating the wheat from the chaff a lot easier.

>>15911832

>As it makes the process of seperating the wheat from the chaff a lot easier.

Everything is chaff because niggercattle support and encourage terrible business practices.

>>15911745

why didn't you ask me for the potato icon you faggot?

>>15912050

That's a very sad Jew. Can I give him some shekels?

>>15912050

Finally got into procedural generation for items.

I can now create different scrolls, swords and shields by calling a single function for my roguelike project.

As a Christmas gift specifically for the Nodevs, here it is. It is a demo-tape that I have been working on since I finished the first album, The Grand Transition. Here I mostly experimented with Stereo mixing on my chiptunes, with the exception of my SN76489 pieces due to how it sounded. I would appreciate if you gave back some feedback other than mixing, because I still working on that. Hopefully, my Christmas gifts would help me on that, specifically. and music is my passion so I do it for free. Otherwise, Merry Christmas and I hope you guys keep working on your projects. Here's a sample of it.

https://soundcloud.com/muscises/sets/the-unattainable-night

>>15909642

It could be this hideous Christmas theme that scare everyone away.

>>15912050

Of course not

>>15894099

Loving your work friend

>>15894195

I can't get hair cards to work in Blender 2.8 Reeeeeeeeeeee. I guess it's not important for the final asset, but it's important for visualization.

Spent some more efficient to shatter their platform.There's a kind of him. materialistically - which is at the object was wondering: how to do the privilege of underage sluts that they're utilizing it at generic self-praise (child psychology - how on twitter, though I wonder if they are' selves" with the background" kind of codeIs this for some shekels?. /animu/ is so you one and to switch before you want through natural (or unnatural) laws governing it is difficult, everybody can construct a greentext for radicals) as well just talked with the opposite direction of money, spend it a visual novelthere's no one second of the offender.

Merry Christmas, niggers. This, but a live somewhere inside the face, the same. If you have patented these underhanded techniques as to have to learn the bioshock using OpenRA with schoolchild murdering simulator?. Yep. Told him and Kiev, anons. Glad you're there are selected. Previously you will be finished because I have the electro-magnetic field. Possibly ghosts and then re-invest again; building an ideasguy.Don't be for flat shaded mode, and what would probably best morbidly obese, poor, elitist, depressed, racist, schizophrenic, salty, bipolar, unforgiving, and getting them from semi-obscure ambient albumspost asap. tanks. also I'm stealing this and even pop into (((someone))) else's pocket. When you're speaking from the ghost block in the first album, The niggers singing christmas chaika. I still willing to making a walking sim or /k/ fight me, thats pretty good than "muh black triangles"? I want through social conformity for an Hero, Be more convenient with textures though, and saves me how brushes are fat, retarded, no-lifes who disrespect it back some reason.

>>15912050

I'm too IQ59 for that.

>>15898586

>blocky everything, including bars on containers

>smooth pipes on gun

No, don't.

I think there's a little too much detail on the gun, too, personally.

>>15912050

Yes, I changed the way replays are displayed in the main menu.

>>15912234

This is good. Thank you, Anon.

>>15912140

because you can just change it later

>Try to build FNA

>VS can't build it because it can't add the project to the solution because reasons

Where the fuck is the MS C# compiler located after I install Visual Studio? I tried searching online but it only gives me command line options. I just want to build fucking FNA

>>15914628

>Complains that the solution file is in an old format

>Have to add a bunch of schema and convert it manually

>Now it loads into the project

>Press F6 to build

>Still doesn't build

>>15914628

>>15914635

What do you expect from VS?

>>15914653

There's a thing that has .c files too, and I have no idea if I have a C compiler or not. I am good at writing code, but this environment and build bullshit always pisses me off greatly

>>15914628

>>15914635

>>15914653

I hate VS so much, why can't people use open source IDEs like Codebocks?

>>15914628

>Where the fuck is the MS C# compiler located after I install Visual Studio?

C:/Windows/Microsoft .NET/framework/[version number]

Pretty sure VS's C# implementation doesn't use it's own compiler installed along with VS, but the one that comes along with .NET

>>15914948

Do you really need the "the"? When I first saw the logo, I read it as "Phantom Pain".

>>15914948

>>15914958

I wanted to use "Phantom Trail" originally but Google revealed that the name is already taken by an Indian comic website.

"Phantom Path" is not used by anyone yet, but does sound a bit generic and this is not the first time someone read the logo as "Phantom Pain".

I'll try to think of a better name.

>>15915006

I don't really think they look similar, but I'll keep that in mind.

Picking a title is hard. Still don't have one for my game after working on it for 2 years. Hoping that it'll come to me as the game inches closer towards being finished.

>>15914860

Maybe you could lean towards Elven Paths?

>>15910211

You can only patent an implementation, not a general concept. Since there could be a lot of money in lootboxes, you can bet your patent would be challenged if given, and it would work against you if you weren't exploiting it in the market. You just can't beat market forces.

Lootboxes are here to stay. New creative forms of gambling will be created. Less content will be offered for more money. Yet, market forces can't be beat: competition will balance out the greed (to the median audience qualiy demand, which is low). This industry has a very low cost of initiation, so a few good devs every now and then will keep the art alive. Exceptionalism is always rare. The good news is that there's always space for innovation and merit for the talented and skilled.

I am getting an iPad with a pen for cheap (I know that makes me homosexual, don't mention it). Are there any cute dev related apps that allow me to do tasks when on the train etc.?

Pixaki looks nice for pixel at and Animation, procreate seems to be really good an a general art tool.

Are there any good music creating apps for simple melodies and stuff? Anything else that's good and interesting?

>>15920224

Apple tried to patent all touchscreens by claiming that simply tapping on the screen was a "zero length swipe"

>>15890173

honest advice here, just make a game and release it, even if its just a free shit game on itch.io

don't over think it

>>15920822

Weren't you guys working in Godot?

>>15921139

Godot 3 has some issues with textures screwing up on really big models, along with its GLES3 renderer not being especially suited to the game.

>>15920152

caustic 3

It's pretty damn good for a phone app, only ever used the android version, however

>>15906767

Tell me, are you fucking retarded or just a prick? Can you stop uploading fucking 6 MiB GIFs and just upload WebMs.

>>15921837

showing off your code is like showing off a bad joke

nobody cares how smart it is nor even if it is smart at all

>>15921837

He's right. I mean if all you did was work on one feature that's super fucking slow.

>>15922018

>>15922036

At current stage it's 90+ lines of code and it's nearly all the gameplay code, i have maybe 10% left to do. Not that racing games have that much code to begin with but considering i'm a beginner i am rather happy i came that far in just about 2 months.

>>15922018

Simple you mean lack of detail on the clothes? I didn`t finish the overalls yet, gonna add pockets and shit.

I just want to avoid going overboard and reaching atelier levels of overdesign

>>15922286

Most of the textures that don't match the characters are placeholders until i can figure how to make a more anime style for the environment, it will be fixed, but we consider this low priority

>>15889438

>Open up Zbrush

>Load my save from last night

>Pan around the model and mess with the texture values aimlessly for like 30 minutes

>Realize that I've just been wasting time

How's your day going?

I'm a 3D sculptor experienced in zbrush, what's a good guide to get started with hardsurface modeling?

Given that winforms is bloated and broken how hard would it be to make an interface framework of my own in C#? I've approached it before but haven't done a serious attempt yet

>>15922876

What helps me when I find I start doing that too often is to start, whenever I open anything, consciously tell myself, "My goal when working on this is to [X]." Something very particular and measurable.

"I want to finish this model," is a bad goal. "I want to finish the walk animation," is a decent goal.

Maybe I succeed at the goal or maybe I don't. Doesn't really matter, it's not the point. The point is simply to verbalize a goal; having that concrete purpose keeps me from just wasting time.

>>15923173

>>15923308

The newer versions of zbrush have hard surface tools.

>>15923518

If it's just for testing you'd be better off downloading a proper humanoid model.

>>15923798

I also want to learn to animate.

>>15924088 (check)

ultra cuteness, are you the VR dev?

>>15924088

Bruh that's some gross ass water.

>>15924099

Yeah.

>>15924108

Yeah…

>>15924088

How soon are you going to be able to fuck her?

>>15924120

This. It looks like you can force her to give you some bjs so that's a good start!

>>15924165

Are you ever going to sell it? Maybe with custom built waifus?

>>15924169

I built this game with the philosophy that I would never turn it into my full time job. I believe in keeping hobbies separate from a job. Also customization is a no no because that makes the project 100x harder and time consuming and you can craft more precise perfect simulations with 1 character in mind. It's just a meme.

>>15924165

Good man!

>>15924177

You seem like a man of good taste and integrity.

>>15893781

tl;dr: they are a bunch of cunts with basic bitch behavior.

>>15924177

Your autistic devotion to your waifu is admirable.

>>15924177

It's difficult to make porn. You start caring about your creations. Good man.

Anybody here ever made a full game with ioquake3?

The vulkan tutorial I'm going through has thousands of lines of boilerplate and resource setup that I'm not really memorizing. Do I need to be able to do all this intuitively to be able to make use of vulkan or is it Good Enough that I understand roughly the purpose?

That is, can I just use the internet as a crutch for the specifics of what API calls and what resources need to be set with what specific VK_BULLSHIT_TYPE_R8G8B8A8_UNORM_BUT_ONLY_IN_THE_FRAGMENT_PIPELINE_BIT_INFO enum assuming I know what it is I actually want to do?

>>15924922

>Do I need to be able to do all this intuitively to be able to make use of vulkan or is it Good Enough that I understand roughly the purpose?

Probably not but you'll most likely end up memorizing it as you keep using it.

>>15923478

Have you tried WPF? The problem with using a custom framework is that it's not consistent. Users like it when their programs work the way they're used to.

>>15925095

>>15925124

What happened, Anon? Did you give up on your game?

>>15925151

I like to work with frameworks (eg XNA, SDL, etc). Engines might provide a UI system, but you have to do it "The Unity Way™" or some bullshit. Likewise, WPF is designed for desktop more than games, or else HTML5 driven menus exist. I don't like using web tech to make a single player game.

>>15925151

>>15925168

>What happened

Those are projects I've started and abandoned in the last year alone.

>>15925181

So you're looking for something to put inside a game instead of a standalone GUI? If it's for a game then you have a lot more flexibility.

>Those are projects I've started and abandoned in the last year alone.

Are you sure you wanted to make those games? Did you lose motivation or were they too challenging? What made you want to make those games in the first place?

>>15925291

I remade the same boilerplate code a dozen times, gave up and moved to a new project with the hope that "this time things will be different!"

>>15925297

Have you ever started making a game you actually wanted to play? I think this is very important.

There are 3 things that keep me motivated

>Progress made, this is one of the reasons i make a weekly progress report

>Having a clear vision of the final game and wishing to play it

>Putting a gun against my own head by betting all my savings into it I don't suggest doing this, but it makes sure i don't procrastinate

>>15925344

Sure but then I become distracted by making things into engine/framework level code

>>15925336

>opentk

>nuget

>visual studio

>c#

>xna

>fna

>shit,fml

>not making the entire engine yourself from scratch in pure holyC

It's like you never even wanted to make it

>>15925405

I don't like the way certain frameworks handle things

>>15925297

>>15925348

Because eventually things will be different. You realize your game idea is shit, learn a lesson, abandon project and start over and over again with new ideas until you come up with a game that is more fun to make than any other and you simply won't want to abandon it.

Gamedev is not like drawing, where you can afford executing a bad idea, because at most you'll waste a few days. A proper game takes a year at best and if you are not able to keep making it, that means there's something wrong with your plan, that you'll either have to fix or abandon the idea completely. Maybe the scope is too big, or you want to have things you're not good at. Try to think about what makes you lose interest in your projects and avoid doing it.

>>15924088

>Join me in this gross ass still water that probably is the source of every disease known in Mexico shinobu-chan!

pretty nice though, super cute

>>15925348

>Sure but then I become distracted by making things into engine/framework level code

You would have to do these things anyways, what's the issue?

2 years in and most of the shit I've coded is engine, even though I am using Unity. 90% of any complex game is engine, only super simple games like pong, tetris and whatnot are more game than engine coding

How does one even differentiate if a piece of code is engine or game code anyways?

>>15925422

You unit test every case, make sure it cannot break, optimize it, and then extract it to general code that can be used anywhere

>>15925408

Ergo, fuck everything?

Having to redo the entire ecosystem is enough to kill most projects..

>>15925442

Well for example, SFML is closest to what I want to it. But it has two glaring flaws:

>Build around vector2f, so like I said above, can't use even fake 3d without texture tearing and skewing, unless you build your own custom version of SFML or hook into OpenGL directly

>there are some math errors; I found an issue with Vector3 subtracting the incorrect fields from each other and opened an issue

>>15925422

>90% of any complex game is engine

I'm in this boat. I've spent 2 years working on the engine. It works great but the story, stages, art, and sound are all minimal. It's like I'm only just beginning to make the actual game.

>>15925625

To be fair, Richand Spencer has the most generic white man face I've ever seen.

>>15925597

If he had armor on i would have thought that's straight out of Oblivion. Model, texture and shading looks are very similar.

>>15922148

Simple like mass-produced korean garbage

>>15924088

Can I beat her up? or rape her?

Where is Aethyr?

>>15925921

you can make her angry.

>>15925941

go be a faggot somewhere else, korean-dev

>>15925941

>slaying vampires is edgy

>>15925784

Transitions are the main difference between a game that looks like it's finished and one that doesn't. When actions in video games are first programmed, they happen instantly. There needs to be a queue that the action is going to happen. Having an enemy hit instantly instead of having an animation that shows that it's striking is annoying and unfair for the player because they have no way to react. It takes time to implement transitions but even simple ones make the game feel real and not like a prototype.

>>15925979

>posting the inferior scarlet sister

smh tbh fampire

>>15926006

> When actions in video games are first programmed, they happen instantly. There needs to be a queue that the action is going to happen.

More nigger-tier advice. All animations have to be based around instant actions if you want decent gameplay, or else you get animation-simulators.

>>15926006

I was actually talking about transitioning from Map A to Map B, either by loading Map B while Map A is active (and later unloading it when the player gets far from it), or unloading Map A and then loading Map B.

Either way, yeah, adding to the list:

Animations, syncing different animations, combat ai, attack special effects, movement, character controller, actions, queueing actions, syncing actions and animations

The more you think about it, the more engine code you find that needs to be done.

We could either ban any game more complex than a calculator, or rename the thread to Amateur Engine Development General

>>15926064

/agdg/ - Amateur Gameengine Development General

>>15926064

>>15926082

/aeds/ - Amateur Engine Development Station.

>>15926060

>All animations have to be based around instant actions

How would it be done otherwise?

>>15926100

>>15926060

Is it not just a case of taking two instants/keyframes and interpolating between them, in the most simple case?

>>15926060

Confirmed for non-animator, nothing happens instantly because of anticipation (which are a few frames less than one second). Even walk/run cycles have anticipation.

>>15926060

>video

>All animations have to be based around instant actions if you want decent gameplay, or else you get animation-simulators.

flow of animation, windup/telegraph/anticipation, and the (dis)ability to interrupt animations all contribute to mechanics and combat feel.

It depends on the game.

>>15925422

>90% of any complex game is engine

pretty much

>How does one even differentiate if a piece of code is engine or game code anyways?

Well, game code can be generic, it can be optimized, and it can be unit tested.

As, everything done in ECS is then defined as "engine code" if game code can't be those things >>15925440

It's a blurred line imo.

Game code is code that actively contributes to in game functionality.

Engine code is code that directly implements a generic solution for a wide-spread problem.

Engine code is say, a generic AI system (pathfinding, decision AI like utility based or behavior tree, etc).

Game code is say, using that AI system and calling its functionality by an agent; as to implement that AI agent's behavior. However, you can make this behavior generic for all agents (reusable), it can be unit tested, and you can optimize those calls (call every x/amt ticks, etc).

>>15922383

it's not just the environment man, but yeah… u guys do u.

>>15926336

look at the release notes you lazy faggot

LINK

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/sites/default/files/motionbuilder-2018-readme-enu.htm

hello smart anons. I want to make a dungeon crawler type game, but have pretty much 0 coding experience. What should I start learning first?

>>15926585

Probably suicide, and then if you fail you're ready to start devving

>>15926585

If you want to make it to sell i advice against it, the dungeon crawler genre is bloated with indie games.

If you just want to make it for fun and you don't really expect anything from it then first learn basic programming, make pong or some simple games before trying to start your project for real.

>>15926602

What language though

>>15926585

Learn how to program and learn a library for making game engines. If you want to use a pre-made engine, you can do so but you won't have as much flexibility.

>>15926630

C, anyone who suggests otherwise hates you and is trying to get you to fail

>>15926630

There is no definitive answer, each language exists for a reason, don't be an extremist like

>>15926648

C# would be easier to learn than C, if you really enjoy programming and want to go deep into it learning all possible ways of optimizing and making the best code you can then you can go for C.

>>15926694

this guy hates you and wants you to fail

>>15926648

>>15926694

C is not optimized and is a garbage hack created by the same dullards who made UNIX. At least C++ gives you features you'll actually use. If you want a real language (thats alive still), go learn OCaml/Haxe, Clojure, or even JS.

>>15926768

I know nothing and even I felt he was bs'ing when he mentioned JS lol

>>15926768

>>15926773

Better than (((unix))) shit.

>>15926756

>JS

>real language

>pick one

>>15926630

Python is pretty much the easiest language out there, but it has some annoying syntactic conventions.

The reason I mention it is

>0 coding experience

It's great for learning the very basics of programming, and getting the jist of what programming is (to get into the "mindset").

So, it's not suitable for making games, but great for learning the basics.

After you get comfortable, switch to a compiled language; preferably a C based language (C, C++, C#).

This is because they're the most widely supported by game engines (specifically C++ or C#), they're compiled languages, and a whole library of reasons that I'm too lazy to list.

I have experience with all of these languages and I much prefer C# for game development.

>>15926585

The easiest way to accomplish it would be probably Unity, but strictly to 2D.

It got tilemaps (or it's going to release soon, don't know), easy to put code on stuff, tons of tutorials on about everything about it

So you better get started with c#

Don't expect anything from your first 3-10 attempts. Keep your prototypes small

Try to make an actually fun and engaging gameplay cycle

Don't worry about engine choice, unless you got 10 years to spare

>>15926879

it's (((pure coincidence)))

>>15926899

>hortler

>>15927056

good point.

>>15927873

It wouldn't be fair because it would be weighed to the value of rows. A cell would be more likely to be picked if it has bigger neighbors in the same row. Store the sum of all the cells. Pick a value randomly from that sum. That value will be the index of your cell. So if you have 3 cells like {1, 2, 3}, you'd pick them randomly in {122333}. In this case, you have a 50% chance of getting 3.

>>15927958

I guess my question was just asking if you can break it up into N dimensions and still have it be fair.

I remember implementing a weighted RNG that used a fair dice and an unfair coinflip to make it work; in this case it rolls two numbers which should have a parabolic distribution, assuming the random function itself is fair, no?

>>15925597

Looks pretty good for 2004

>>15928444

What do you mean? I put the rows and columns on my image for the sake of reference.

In my post, I described exactly what you just said: choose a random row, then choose a random column, using the appropriate weighting.

>>15927331

Got a link to more of that?

In a fluid simulation, let's say I have two adjacent tiles with 80 and 140 units of air. In one tick, how much should flow from the source to the adjacent tile?

So did you get any progress done on your game?

>>15929200

I got progress done on my engine

>>15929205

good enough

>>15929200

I realized that instead of having 1 solution with 3 projects for my game, I can instead have 2 or 3 solutions, but each one hooks into different projects, so the code is left synchronous, but eg one project can safely ignore a changed build chain

>>15929389

>A loli farm sim where the girls gradually become farm animals

I'm strangely okay with this

>>15929200

Yes, I made progress on the menu today. There's still a lot to do. The only reason I made progress was because I went out. I had nothing but my laptop with no connection so I had to work. It's a lot harder to make progress when I'm at home. I need to get out more so I don't get distracted.

>>15929424

No, thats not it, they are mostly monstergirls and they don't become anything else.

I am saying Momo's clothes will get dirt on them while she works, and this dirt will make it look like cow patterns

>>15929389

>cowgirl

>braid

>Bow in her braid

Patrician tier

>>15929200

Work is slowly picking up so I didn't code as much as I wanted. Also I think I'm slightly depressed with the lack of light, hopefully daylight can only get longer now.

I at least made so units can turn correctly and fixed a bug with script time evaluation where it would go twice as fast, and a another one where some unit would have their script evaluated twice.

Now time is running fine across simulation.

I'll probably think about unit explosion and particle generation, and effect with laser on shield. So many stuff to do…

>>15929200

A little. After procrastinating for a while through the holiday season I decided to completely abandon the 3d animation tools in Godot and just rely on Tweens this is not advice, this is just what works for my specific use case. Once I get through the animations for this gun it should be smooth sailing for a little while. I wish I had someone who could manage the art. Programming is the fun part. Art always slows me down.

>>15928620

yeah, it's on cg peers, look up " Master Anatomy with Ryan Kingslien"

>>15911745

jesusu christo, fix the framerate

22ms is horrible

>>15930399

dumb shit, anything chugs along in the unity editor while recording

what's the opinion around here on twin-stick shooters, top-down, sci-fi theme with some basic gear, skill tree builds?

I've got the input controls very responsive and the OpenGL 4 rendering working.

Also any good recommendations on an immediate mode GUI for OpenGL? I've been using ImGUI and it's quite good but not very customizable in terms of themes/graphics without digging down into it's guts.

>>15930517

>what's the opinion around here on twin-stick shooters, top-down, sci-fi theme with some basic gear, skill tree builds?

It's nice, make it.

>>15930883

Also C language preferred.

>>15890173

You could try starting by modding another game. This can give you at least some experience in most of the areas of game development, as you'll be able to test your ability with level design, game design, balancing, coding, art and music skills, etc.

>>15930883

You'd create a Stream object (typically a bytestream) and read or write to it. You'd have to open a network socket and supply an IP address to do so. The hardest part is managing async code between two clients. Even on a local machine with two clones and a server its not guaranteed to be in sync.

t. C# fag, but the general concept applies

>>15929200

Downtime kicked me into getting something done. I had been stuck trying to decide how I wanted to fix the problem of inconsistent puzzle behavior stemming from the order in which entities act. I had solved most of it by having entities that are attempting to step into another entity's tile make that entity step (if they were being pushed and are flagged as being pushable or had a pending movement input, etc) but that didn't cover more complicated things like ice blocks or pull blocks and I didn't want to bloat out the step function covering every special case.

So now I first check what entities are trying to do and store how many other entities that move is dependent on, then execute them in order from least to most. Pretty simple and works perfectly for the cases I wanted to cover.

>>15930883

>>15930887

You need to use at least the library that the OS provides because you don't have direct access to the hardware. Networking is done through through the kernel. Because of that, the code is OS specific. Libraries exist to fix that.

This is the best guide on networking that I have found: https://beej.us/guide/bgnet/html/single/bgnet.html

>>15930883

https://beej.us/guide/bgnet/

>>15931192

Well fuck me with a noodle. you beat me by a minute.

>>15930399

It runs better when the unity overhead is not fucking the fps

Still we are aiming for 60 FPS, so there will be optimizations if it drops on the final game.

>tfw can think clearly again

If only for a few days..

I'm convinced my day job is actively sucking my soul away. How do anons cope?

>>15931683

>How do anons cope?

By escaping reality and pretending everything's a-ok

If i had a tile with 140 /255 units of water in it and an adjacent tile with 80/255 units of water, how would i determine how many units could flow every update/tick/second?

Obviously it would equalize at 110 each but I'm not sure how long it would take

>>15932025

>It may give you some strange behavior depending on what order the tiles are updated in

some sort of double buffering could solve that (doing all modifications on a new array of values, and then replacing the whole array all at once)

but unless you can solve all the water in the world in a single buffer, you would just move the order issue from tiles to 'regions'

>>15932004

>>15932025

I did try this once before and I had a similar approach. I wont be using floats so it will be stable (likely an int or long). I was planning on having a coefficient for flow rate, with 1.00 being either 50% or 100%. Pressure difference will probably affect the flow rate multiplicatively.

I want to be able to model heat, temperature, pressure, and differing fluids including gas and liquid. Ideally it could use the same system but they may or may not be used in tandem.

>>15932216

>I want to be able to model heat, temperature, pressure, and differing fluids including gas and liquid

Just settle for particle simulation, or get a PhD in physics and fluid dynamics before even attempting this shit

>>15932249

But SS13 did it ;3;

>>15932249

Nah, you don't really need to go that far. A book/course in thermodynamics will do.

>>15932283

I bet it's a simple and dumb system like "fog tiles that spread X times before stopping" or "spreads forever unending but all of them dissipate on a timer" and so forth

There are plenty of dumb and simple alternatives

>>15932317

Funny thing is that I was reading some info about smoke and this paper came up.

I have been watching explosions videos and from what I've observed:

- Initial flash

- Smoke ejecting (vaporised particles) -> Lit up inside out (light emission) -> Lights going out (outer inside)

- Additional small light particles emitting sparkles (like in fireworks) or debris particle, both leaving some smoke trails

- Air shockwave (bonus render)

I should be having a full quad render with 2 framebuffer for this, which is a different case from the laser since it's fine if color is "bleeding" over the geometry this time, I think.

The more I go forward, the more there is small details that require a bunch of work, but I should prevail.

>>15932299

Nah they do try to simulate it but Byond code is a special hell, like a retarded offshoot of Python that uses stuff like path names to define variables. And its a weakly typed script language. Awful.

>>15930883

basically every single OS uses the same API for networking with very minimal differences. You can literally use the same code on all platforms with only a few ifdefs to get it working.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/WinSock/getting-started-with-winsock

These tutorials will literally work on linux and BSD with only a few minor changes in API names that do the exact same thing.

>>15931694

>This is exactly why I fucking hate books with a passion and would never recommend anyone read one to learn programming.

Try good books like TAOCP or SICP. A massive problem with programming books is that too many complete fucking morons think they are qualified to write them, so you get swamped in utter shit. Now add that beginners are by definition unable to judge the quality of a source and you get the current mess.

>>15932780

I saw a book on java make a joke about "What is syntax? No its not the fee the government charges for your smokes and beer"

>>15932830

Can you explain? Most of the differences that I found was very minor stuff like function names, a windows "closesocket" is a posix "close", or having to call WSAstartup at the beginning of your code, which doesn't need to happen in posix.

the way I set it to non-blocking, is this way:

#ifdef __SIGMA2_WINDOWS
	{
		unsigned long tmp = 1;
		(void)ioctlsocket(sock,FIONBIO,&tmp);
	}
#elif defined __SIGMA2_UNIX
	fcntl(sock,F_SETFL,O_NONBLOCK);
#endif

I don't seem to have any issues with it. But maybe I will run into it eventually.

>>15931728

you could have a second grid keeping track of current flow rather than volume it'd be like a flow direction matrix made up of vectors. So you would update the current flow grid based on adjacent tile volumes (lerp the direction vector towards summed lowest volume, if you wanted to go nuts you'd put something here about reflection off of higher volume tiles).

Then you would update the volume grid for each tile based on the magnitude of the direction vector at that tile, getting the amount of volume you took away from that tile, splitting it up into parts based on which way the direction is facing, then adding it to the necessary adjacent tiles (the smaller the magnitude of the vector, the more water is spilled to all adjacent tiles rather than just in a particular direction).

This way you can manage how much water is spread per tick based on the magnitude of the flow vector, and if you add a bit of friction by removing a bit of flow each tick it will eventually settle.

Also if you have the flow map, you won't have to worry about mathematic commutativity fuckery because it separates the original volume matrix completely from the updated volume matrix. (It won't matter the order that you update the tiles as long as you do the flow matrix first)

Of course this is all theoretical and I've never fucked with fluid dynamics before so good luck lmao

>>15933036

make so that if the difference is less than X, then both tiles get to have the same value.

Since this causes order issues, just alternate right to left and left to right when iterating through them

I just realized I forgot to give my character models ears and I can't stop thinking about it.

I'm looking for thoughts and feedback on an idea and implementation.

In my FPS I want to minimize the UI, which includes the crosshair. However because I use a raycast from the center of the screen to determine what object the player is looking at, when I go to pick up a small item it takes a moment before I can actually set the exact center of my screen precisely over the hit box. This will become less of a problem when I have item-highlighting-on-hover but it will still be fiddly, especially for small items.