/v/ - Video Games

>Washington DC is black city basically.

lol

>the entire story of xenophobia doesn’t work which was very important to me as a convinced internationalist

Who is this cuck? And they call metro a spiritual successor to Stalker

>>15855164

>They had to replace the Dark Ones with some kind of random beasts and as long as the beasts don’t look human, the entire story of xenophobia doesn’t work which was very important to me as a convinced internationalist.

wat

Was Metro originally about muh racism shit or what?

>>15855177

He did a poor job at conveying it because that's the last thing I would have thought of. The story is about stopping darkies

>>15855181

The game fucks up majorly in delivering this theme unless you get the good ending. Which i believe 80% of people didn't.

The sequel did it better as it highlited everyone was doing what they believed best including the Nazis who were eliminating genetic mutations.

Wew, lads. Another wokewashed kikewood movie is coming.

>>15855189

I would like to discuss about how the third book fuck everything up by the author going on a moralfaggot rant and in interviews, admitted to trying to make real life political and social commentary that completely makes the first two books a goddamn joke by the biggest twist he could rub his hands on to everyone who ever got invested in his books, but that would be admitting to the pain and knowledge that it goddamn exists.

>>15855182

>and Dark Ones are always a metaphor for niggers

lol

>>15855196

How did you miss the part that says it's been cancelled because of it?

Why would you want a movie to begin with, you already have the book and the video game

>>15855205

It won't end here. The sights have been set.

Polite sage.

>>15855164

>into the deepest recesses of hell he goes

>>15855177

>>15855181

The book literally ends with him realizing too late that the Dark Ones aren't actually evil and want to help humanity before he blows them all up, something he ends the story having to live with the guilt of. It's pretty obvious what the message is. I realize /v/ haven't touched anything of the series besides the games, but jesus.

>>15855227

>The book literally ends with him realizing too late that the Dark Ones aren't actually evil and want to help humanity

I barely played the game. Why are the Dark Ones not evil?

Are dark ones aliens or were they human at one point?

>>15855236

Because they're escaping war and literally every one of them was a promising student with eyes on becoming an astrophysicist. Also, most of the dark ones are women and children (not fighting age men).

>>15855236

Also did you not see the photo of that one infant dark one washed up on a beach?

>>15855227

Why are they killing people and shit, wiping out whole subway stations, delaying trains?

Fuck the last book so fucking hard

>>15855182

>ark Ones are always a metaphor for niggers

No, you see the main reason why you know that Metro series is a work of fiction is that the Dark Ones are peaceful and intelligent creatures who want to cooperate with humans.

>>15855268

>>15855269

>It's never stated 'why' they aren't evil, just that they reveal to Artyom that they want to help what remains of humanity. The problem is that whenever they try to communicate with humans they fry their brains, and so humans consider them a threat (because without being able to communicate they think they're out for blood). If I remember right the book does leave it open-ended over whether they were genuine in wanting to help or it was their last attempt at trying to prevent the whole 'getting nuked' part.

Until book 3 when basically they are absolutely pointless to the grand scheme and woulda been wiped out anyway because they were considered annoying

>>15855295

Fucking hated that book, they became a goddamn footnote because current year social and political commentary by Gluvkikesky was more important.

>>15855236

They basically are the next evolutionary step of humanity.

<but wouldn't that mean they want to replace humanity?

They don't really think like humans either. That's the big joke. If you look at the survivors in the Metro, they already are on the permanent verge of extinction, and they still keep murdering one another over petty conflicts.

The idea is that the "evolution" of the Dark Ones is not so much their adaption to radioactivity or whatnot, but their honest will to peacefully coexist with one another and their human "brothers".

The big problem is what >>15855269 says. For one thing, their physical appearance creeps out humans by itself, and for another, their telepathic means of communication produces instant mindfuck in all humans except Artyom.

>>15855306

Was basically a everyone is dumb as fuck especially commies and nazis who are easy to manipulate powers in a system that is controlled by a single power

Oh and book 2 was just a fanfiction all along

>>15855311

>Oh and book 2 was just a fanfiction all along

Metro has over 9000 spin-off titles by other authors anyway. Glukhovsky encouraged other writers to imagine how the same situation you have in the Moscow metro might play off in the "shelters" of other places.

Pretty sure there was at least one book set in Italy, actually.

A metro-style book set in the catacombs of Paris could be pretty neat, but I doubt those would survive a nuke.

>>15855311

Worse, he did several interviews that reveal he was affected by "Current events" that directly relate to the fuck-up CIA coup in Ukraine and he was off the record, was criticizing Putin. My friend might have been joking that the turd book was redpilled because the (((Watchers))) were controlling everyone, but fuck, this book ruined it all that build up.

>>15855317

No I mean outright its a story written by Homer

american film producers: yeah this story is nice and all, but what if we just set it in america, focussed on american bullshit because clearly the worldwide audience for this basement dwelling slavs nukecore light novel is americans, right?

Its weird, in a way american culture is strangely more isolationist than chinas, only they dont shut down the stuff from outside, they parasitise it like that "i made this" meme. Granted hollywood is creatively dead and its been surviving off europe and asias left overs and recycles for 20 years but still for a country whos only major export outside of weapons is media you would think they would eventually get the message that 'time to dragonball evolution this bitch' has worked for bay and anderson and literally nobody else ever.

>>15855212

>It won't end there

Yes it will. Hollywood is about the path of least resistance and effort. Trying to convince the guy again and then convince him that it should still be in america is much harder than just finding another IP. Attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence if you like, but you should never accuse Hollywood of being courageous and competent.

>>15855328

I just wish it was kept as more fantasy than political

>>15855317

Some Frog fans of his were making some fanfics on that but they were brief, not good, or never finished. Well there's the The Roots of Heaven that deals with the Spaghetti fags with some spooky shit in the Catacombs of Rome.

>>15855342

This I can agree with. Leaving aside 90% of /v/ actually is /pol/ discussing video games, I didn't mind the back and forth between the different factions of the metro, but that mutants and other creepy/anomalous stuff barely played any notable role after the first book was disappointing.

>>15855353

Well the second book has a few things but that all comes down to the fact it was written by Homer so there is little truth in the sensationalism

The third book basically just gets to the point where every mutation and spoopky is nothin more than an annoyance to anyone above

>>15855397

HOLY FUCK

>>15855397

>metro 2033 was an idea from before going to Israel

No wonder the first book’s so much better

>>15855175

Xenophobia is a real thing, racism isn't. The former is a concept known for millennia, the latter is a word made up in the 20th century: guess which one has roots in reality?

Pathological hate to foreigners IS NOT either racism or opposition to mass immigration. It's an entirely different and worst beast. You just drank up a bit of koolaid.

>>15855269

>whenever they try to communicate with humans they fry their brains, and so humans consider them a threat

Yeah, I'm with the humans there. You're mindfucking people every time you try and communicate then you either fuck off, get killed or find another way of communicating - physical gestures, pictographs, that sort of thing. If after the 50th attempt at communicating and subsequent mindfucking they've not thought of that then yeah, they're a fucking threat.

>>15855261

>>15855227

>>15855340

>literally

>>15855464

Literally racist nazi

>>15855464

>JUST MAKE THE FUCKING MOVIE LIKE THE SOURCE MATERIAL DICTATES

but the source material is about muh xenophobia, he just doesn't want it to be specific to burgers

>>15855437

But nobody uses the word like its 20th century intention. Its synonyms with racism these days. Its like Transphobia and Islamphobia. Just dumb shit word play.

>>15855464

Its just lazy plot device hack writers use, sames with sexism

Thank fucking Gods.

>>15855491

How angry are jews for inventing "anti-semitism" and not "judeophobia"?

>>15855497

they didn't, it was coined by anti-Jewish agitators in Germany

>>15855486

i tought it was about humans at their best and worst like most russian existensialist stories.

>>15855164

>hollywood jews try to turn it into another generic flick

>kike who wrote the book is so concerned it would not be propagandist enough that he cancels the whole thing

This is the best possible outcome.

>>15855506

It's also that but the main plotpoint and twist is that the Dark Ones weren't ebul after all despite empirical evidence stating otherwise and their communication efforts being similar to warning shots.

>>15855532

If anything the Hollyjew one looks more propagandist than the source material.

>>15855526

>Washington

Nah, it's probably Detroit or Chicago

>>15855542

If anything, Darkie ones being a race allegory would promote the incompatibility of different groups.

>>15855464

>the Dark Ones are not even fucking human

Pretty sure the games gear you towards helping them, and only have holocausting them as an "evil" option. Of course, anyone with half a brain napalmed them without a second thought, but that's not how the author intended it. Funny how these things work.

>muh xenophobia

I don't know who's the bigger kike, Hollywood or this guy.

>>15855548

Metro games are americanized as all hell.

The only things that set it apart from American games are the aesthetics and the setting, but the game design, pacing, trends and plot are americanized to shit.

You want something that actually stands itself out as slav you play S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Pathologic, The Void and Paranoia.

Even Escape from Tarkov is less Americanized despite having literal Americans in it.

>>15855562

And it does, you've got these psychic non humans that are making the feral mutants go wild on human settlements and fucking with their heads, killing any human they come across including your mentor and outpacing humans on evolution and somehow by the end they were trying to warn Artyom and they dindu nuffin, makes no fucking sense.

>>15855591

Read the quote from the article dipshit retard, see who implicated dumbass.

>>15855599

>and somehow by the end they were trying to warn Artyom and they dindu nuffin, makes no fucking sense.

That's how you know it was written by a leftist. Muh tolerance > any possible crimes comitted in the past, shitlord.

>>15855182

Is someone going to storytime this or what?

>>15855552

>>15855552

Chicago is the murder capital of the US but Washington and Detroit arent far behind, basically any democratically run city with a massive population of niggers will have a high murder rate.

>>15855607

That's what I hate about Metro

You S.T.A.L.K.E.R and Paranoia and they're pretty ambiguous on who the "good guys" are and what you're fighting for and not really justifying all the human killing you do.

Metro just makes you the paragon of virtue, pretends like killing people is ok because they're Bandits/Nazis/Commies and calls you a monster when you get the "bad ending".

Fucking game went one step above and made Bourbon a one dimensional characters when in the book he was going to backstab you after you completed the job contract you made with him.

>>15855623

Cities/states with pretty strict gun laws as well compared to other regions of the country.

>>15855599

>and somehow by the end they were trying to warn Artyom and they dindu nuffin

In the game, I always assumed that was just a trick they tried to pull for self-preservation.

>>15855649

>I always assumed that was just a trick they tried to pull for self-preservation.

Sure his, Dark Ones are like turbo Jews on steroids.

>>15855649

>>15855656

It's even more blatant on Last Light

>I'm the only surviving Dark One Artyom my goy, remember the 6 gorillion Dark Ones you fucking gassed

>We can talk now but somehow didn't when trying to communicate with you in the first game and killed many of your friends and fellow humans

<Why are there even more Dark Ones here to save me? Don't think about it goy

>>15855630

It's what you get with most modern slav authors. During communism, the whole intelligentsia went "muh liberal values" to oppose it, and after it fell, went straight into lefty kiked liberalism, just like their western counterparts. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is good because it's very grounded and thus doesn't give much room for such bullshit, otherwise I can guarantee you you'd see it everywhere.

>>15855662

I tried to forget Last Light's plot.

>>15855699

Exodus plot will be 3 times worse I bet

The gameplay itself looks like Ubisoft FarCry tier garbage.

>>15855570

>>15855662

The Dark Ones were trying to communicate with Artyom in the first game, and succeeded by the end of it. The Dark Ones had to actually learn to restrain their psychic abilities so they would be able to communicate with humans without melting their brains. That's why so many people died or went insane when coming in contact with them. Artyom happened to be the one candidate with the strongest mental will to survive communicating with them.

>>15855714

Then why is the nuke them all ending canon? Did artyom just not like what he saw?

>>15855728

By the time the Dark Ones unretard themselves and try to communicate without frying human's brains, the birds are already flying.

>>15855714

>not taking the chance to genocide a species that is clearly more powerful, capable, and better adapted to current earth than humanity is

>allowing your species to become dominated like that

>the first book was good

>the first game was good

>every subsequent installment was complete shit

what happened

>>15855728

>>15855749

Artyom is on the fence about the Dark Ones. On the one hand, the Hunters want him to kill them all, as they're a threat to humanity, who fear what they don't comprehend.

On the other, he sees visions in his mind, sent by the Dark Ones, of what happened to them, who they are, and that they wish to help humanity survive, and even return to the surface. You can see the Dark Ones watching Artyom from afar throughout the game, disappearing as soon as he sees them ala Gman from Half Life. They protect him through his journey by distracting and warding away beasts and other enemies the best they can. That's why Artyom seems to survive the craziest things, like the Watcher stampede from the beginning, the Demon attacks which he miraculously escapes, stumbling upon unconscious Black Librarians in the underground, evading the not!nazis and not!soviets, saving him from a coma, etc. but he doesn't know that.

The nuke ending is canon straight from the book, while the non-nuke ending is not.

>"If it's hostile, you kill it." - Hunter

>"Try to get a better understanding of things before you make your judgement." - Khan

The whole theme of Metro 2033 is the fear of the unknown. The game shows that motto right in the main menu for a reason.

Did no one pay attention to the story of this fucking story-driven game?

>>15855791

>They protect him through his journey

Calling BS on that claim. Watching him, yes, helping him, no.

Dark Ones deserve the bomb even when you "understand" them.

>>15855836

>>15855835

Cuckolded reasoning.

>if you kill a competitor you're just fearful

OK cuck

>>15855844

I'm aware they had contact with Artyom as a child; this does not make them good guys. Furthermore they can lie, and you're naive for assuming honesty among a race as desperate for survival as humanity at that point. Additionally, being telepathic, we can't even be sure they aren't molding Artyom's memories to use him as a tool by this point. Think, man.

>>15855852

>understanding what the book/game are trying to portray is cuckold reasoning

>understanding the subtext of something means you agree with it by default

>you have to hate something by default if you don't agree with the author's politics

I too enjoy being an 80IQ wigger, fellow nu/pol/ poster.

>>15855852

You dumb fucking nigger, have you never seen how an animal reacts to something it doesn't understand? Have you ever even at the very least watched Animal Planet in your life? It's the same shit with humans, you fucking idiot.

What is most people's first thought when they see a fucking spider? Or a rat? Or any wild animal that isn't a deer? I'll give you a few hours to think about that one, you need it because you're that much of a dumbass.

>>15855857

>this does not make them good guys

It doesn't, but compared to the way most of his fellow humans treated him throughout his life, they're almost saints. Naivety is denying that your own race can do no wrong just because you think the Dark Ones are as bad as the humans based on assumptions before they even do anything. What we do know is that humanity reacts terribly to the concept of coexistence with another sapient species. Hell, it can't even coexist with itself, it our entire written history is anything to go by. We don't even need to destroy the world with a nuclear war to get to that point. The past 100 years alone spawned man-made horrors you wouldn't believe, but on we don't understand what the Dark Ones really are or how they operate, so they must be a terrible threat to us. See what I mean?

>we can't even be sure they aren't molding Artyom's memories to use him as a tool by this point.

They don't need humans in any shape or form. They mutated to thrive in a post nuclear hellscape, have telekineses and telepathy, and feed off of radiation. They could let humans rot underground for all they cared, but they didn't.

>>15855835

How is it an irrational fear? It's what even got us to this point in the first place

>Hey Grug, there's a pack mountain lions around our cave, we should do something before they attack us

>Don't do it Grog, what if they're friendly? Sure, they kill a tribe member once in a while, but what if they're really on our side?

Why WOULDN'T you reasonably assume the dark ones are a threat to humans?

>>15855835

That's stupid. This scenario hasn't happened since before we were even called humans, and even in that case, the "Neanderthal genocide" happened through assimilation. We did not nuke the Neanderthals, we FUCKED them. Literally. Which is probably a sign of acceptance everywhere but high on /pol/.

I despise all these "humanity is bad, literally anything else is better" stories. The scenarios are outlandish and sometimes downright nonsensical, just to put mankind in a bad situation in order to point at ourselves and laugh about how terrible we are. And normalfag retards (the same kind of people who post "the more I know people, the more I love my dog LMAO SO RELATABLE LIKE IF YOU AGREE" in their Facebook walls) pretend this is an actual deep message, instead of angsty teen level social commentary.

Humanity is chaotic. Due to our composite nature, we are both saints and devils, and everything inbetween. But this is kind of a downer epiphany, so nobody ever mentions it. It is cooler to perform mental gymnastics to categorize ourselves in black and white morality.

>>15855852

how fucking stupid are you

>>15855895

>They mutated to thrive in a post nuclear hellscape

They were completely boned by the time they went all-in communicating with Artyom, dingus! Nukes were ready to fly, they absolutely DO care about humanity when that's on the table.

>Naivety is denying that your own race can do no wrong just because you think the Dark Ones are as bad as the humans based on assumptions before they even do anything

>before they even do anything

>All these implications that Dark Ones haven't proven themselves to be a threat

They killed several stations' worth of people. That isn't 'unknown,' it's clearly established. Who is naive again?

>>15855883

>>15855895

>>15855917

>no, you're supposed to agree with the author!!!!

get fucked, he's just propagandising muh xenophobia because of his gay humanist agenda

>>15855570

holocausting them is the canon ending, even for the books. Actually the book was a lot better.

>People ITT getting mad because the author of a book didn't want to dilute his story, and having integrity, decides not to cave into kikewood

>>15855900

>Confirmed for not understanding.

The dark ones are considered by some in universe as homo novus, or the next step in humanity. It also doesn't help that the dark ones can't communicate with most humans, they fry the brains of people they try and talk to via telepathic link. It's because of this people consider them a threat.

>>15855922

Accidental

>>15855437

>Pathological hate to foreigners IS NOT either racism or opposition to mass immigration. It's an entirely different and worst beast

There's nothing wrong with xenophobia. For big part of history people were right and reasonable to be wary of strangers - other groups, other tribes, other states, and eventually other nations. Now there's more reason for it than before. Kids are told not to talk to strangers all the time.

>>15855900 (checked)

Humanity knows the dark ones are the next step of evolution which implies they are sapient hence might be reasonable.

>Why WOULDN'T you reasonably assume the dark ones are a threat to humans?

Because they didn't deliberately kill all the humans. Why didn't they kill every living human they encounter. Why did they left some insane?

>>15855932

>Accidental

There is no proof it was accidental, only a desperate plea when there's a gun to their heads. That's not good enough to absolve them.

>>15855939

that's the problem, we don't know. Because the dark ones cannot verbally communicate.

>>15855941

Which leaves 2 possibilities.

1. They killed a ton of people on purpose

2. They killed a ton of people on accident

Either way they're a negative force on humanity that should be removed. We see zero indication that they want to help, except when they are desperate to not get eradicated.

Maybe Artyom should just say "oops, that nuke is my people's way of communicating, sorry you didn't get it. We just tried to help." It would be as much a defense as te Dark Ones put up.

>>15855941

But we do know they've killed a shitload of people. There is zero doubt they are a threat whatsoever, just a small doubt that it was intentional. Regardless of if it was intentional, manslaughter is still a crime.

>>15855900

>Picking a fight with lions because they happen to be around the area

>Approaching lions at all

<Hey Grug let's go fight those lions

<WOW WHY ARE THEY MAULING US

Lions only attack when you approach them or when they're hungry, at which point it's fine to fight them off. But why the fuck would you deliberately go after an animal that is not at all giving a fuck about your presence and just minding its own business? Just because you can see them? Ever heard of the phrase "don't bother them, they don't bother you"?

>>15855903

>This scenario hasn't happened since before we were even called humans

I guess animals are going extinct on their own then. And don't say we just do it for sport, urban expansion into habitats is a thing.

>I despise all these "humanity is bad, literally anything else is better" stories

I do too when they're badly written, but seriously, how do you think people are going to react to, say, a bear walking by? For the sake of comparison, how do you think people are going to react to an alien ship coming down to greet them, especially after all these horror/action movies where humans fight aliens and whatnot? Be truthful.

Humanity IS capable of good, but the bad heavily outweighs it. It's delusional to deny it.

I mean, look at all the replies here. Everyone who disagrees has the "we don't know what they'll do, so we have to kill them first" mentality. Not that they're discredited, but it reflects the point everytime.

>>15855923

>You're supposed to agree with the author

You're supposed to understand the message the author is conveying, not accept it, you cocksucker.

Do you people not understand that the author isnt saying "muh poor refugees" but its simply talking about how we would rather kill ourselves than try to understand that maybe we're not the center of the universe?

>>15855962

>Humanity IS capable of good, but the bad heavily outweighs it. It's delusional to deny it.

If you really believed that, wouldn't you have to kill yourself?

>>15855964

I like this explanation for Metro as well; cuts right to the point.

>>15855962

I do understand him, that's why I called his reasoning cuckolded, you utter faggot. You've spent this thread waxing on about how only YOU understand him, because you're so special you've read between the lines and everyone else is ignorant. The fucking op outlines his outright political intention of internationalism. In all, you are a SELF IMPORTANT FAGGOT and you seem incapable of understanding that others disagree with the scatterbrained globalism and tolerance of outside threats that you've espoused. Fuck you, you pretentious fop. I hope you get run over by a truck of peace.

>>15855976

We're arguing whether or not it's right to nuke the Dark Ones, the author has made his cuckoldry quite apparent on various outlets, posted earlier ITT.

>>15855962

>But why the fuck would you deliberately go after an animal that is not at all giving a fuck about your presence and just minding its own business

Here's an easier scenario for you to understand

>Fuck red tribe t. grug

>I kill red tribe t. grug

>Oh fuck my tribe dying t. grug

>Why spooky black monster thing kill t. grug

>They must be like red tribe t. grug

>I kill t. grug

<dindu nuffin man I just be tryna talk to you man shieet t. tyrone

>>15855950

Yes, the brain frying shit, although unintentional according to the story, put humans on alert. Justified, yes, but then they go on to make an entire mission to wipe out the Dark Ones who're in buttfuck nowhere despite all the myriad of other mutants actively rampaging through the Metro. Both sides have faults, but they got Artyom to understand, and it became his duty to either explain their motives to humans, or kill them off.

But the Dark Ones did save everyone at the end of Last Light which isn't canon

>>15855964

There's a difference between killing something when it threatens you, and killing something just because it fucking EXISTS. Do you know what sort of creature attacks things around it on a whim? Niggers. Are you a fucking nigger? I'm guessing yes because you can't see the difference.

I guess we should kill all dogs too because they can still kill humans.

>>15855977

wouldn't you have to kill yourself?

No because I'm not Strelok

>>15855985

I'm explaining WHY I understand it, and defending my points. It's nothing about being special. It's called a discussion, you stupid retard. But by the looks of it you don't have the mental faculties to get that either.

>>15855991

>Still doesn't get the point

>Mudding the topic in current year politics makes me right

>Actually using grug memes

Out of arguments, reddit?

>>15855995

>grug is somehow now reddit

fit in yet pal

>>15856000

Okay, I have to put it slower for you then.

Something attacks you, and kills people on your side. Why should you not retaliate?

>>15855991

Dark ones are smarter, stronger and have super powers, but they dont know how to control them, the whole metro game is about one dark one slowly and consistenly trying to establish contact with artyom in ways it doesnt fry his brain off, maybe just like there are humans who want to understand them, like khan who seems to have a way better understanding of things than you and it notices you not being so determined about killing everything, there may be dark ones who want to in fact establish dominance because after all dark ones used to be humans as well, with all their human past behind.

>>15856000

>but then they go on to make an entire mission to wipe out the Dark Ones who're in buttfuck nowhere

They were right on top of Moscow. Our territories very obviously had significant overlap.

>There's a difference between killing something when it threatens you, and killing something just because it fucking EXISTS

Killing entire towns of people is threatening, man. If you find it excusable, refer to my previous "oops, the nuke is just how humans communicate" remark.

>>15856005

The humans shot first in Metro.

>>15855962

>I guess animals are going extinct on their own then. And don't say we just do it for sport, urban expansion into habitats is a thing.

Yeah, humans consume. Pretty much everything alive consumes. Many species are dying passively, rather than by direct human action. We don't really want to make them go extinct, so to speak. We just so happen to have our own "evolutionary pull field", where many species who can't adapt die, and those who can thrive. Dark Ones, being intelligent beings, would be able to adapt, and had they not killed anyone, we could have come to an understandment through diplomacy.

>a bear walking by?

I would probably run somewhere safe, and then call 911 to take care of it. Only if it entered my safe area I would attempt to kill it. You tell me tthe firdth thing you would think if you saw a bear in the middle of the street would be to shut it down, even if it doesn't pose an immediate threat?

>For the sake of comparison, how do you think people are going to react to an alien ship coming down to greet them, especially after all these horror/action movies where humans fight aliens and whatnot? Be truthful.

Well, it depends. I know for sure what would the response be if they landed on top of a bunch of people and casually fried people's brains before even managing to say hello. Otherwise, people would probably run, and that's where our armed forces would come in. They would likely not be shot if they got out of their ships and waved at the guys pointing at them with rifles.

If you believe all the testimonies of supposed ex-military pilots who tried to chase UFO in their careers, you will find most claim they don't even try to shoot them down with missiles and those who do, usually experience unexplainable electronics failures and instead just attempt to intimidate them by surrounding them.

Humanity IS capable of good, but the bad heavily outweighs it. It's delusional to deny it.

>>15856009

>Calling out amerimutts is cuckchan

How are burgers so insecure?

>>15856017

Was gonna try to reply to that last sentence, but I pressed New Reply before I realized it was still there.

>Humanity IS capable of good, but the bad heavily outweighs it. It's delusional to deny it.

Ya blew it.

>>15856000

They're not just mutants, they're INTELLIGENT and SeNTIENT mutants. That makes them a far greater threat, so

>who're in buttfuck nowhere despite all the myriad of other mutants actively rampaging through the Metro

is justified. They posed a far greater threat than anything else, and they've already shown they kill humans. You're misconstruing their motivations.

>>15856013

Yes, then there is open hostilities and even more justification to kill them

>>15856020

> and killing something just because it fucking EXISTS

Did you forget the entire 'frying minds, killing and making people retarded' thing?

>>15856020

>People are dying the most to Nosalis stampedes in the Metro.

And we kill Nosalises too, rightfully so. If we were able to make them extinct, we would and should do it.

>IF it actually happens.

It did, though? Are you suggesting the entire impetus of the plot is fake somehow?

>>15856017

>You tell me tthe firdth thing you would think if you saw a bear in the middle of the street would be to shut it down, even if it doesn't pose an immediate threat?

It's what most people would do around the world. Grizzly bears for example are endangered specifically for that reason.

>and that's where our armed forces would come in.

And that's when you get my point.

>They would likely not be shot if they got out of their ships and waved at the guys pointing at them with rifles.

You overestimate the friendliness of governments Anon.

>>15856023

>they're INTELLIGENT and SeNTIENT mutants. That makes them a far greater threat

Because…?

That's the point.

>>15856029

>>15856040

>Did you forget the entire 'frying minds, killing and making people retarded' thing?

>It did though

Which was preceded by humans shooting them on sight when they first came down to the Metro, and unintentional

>They were not bloodthirsty beasts as most of the inhabitants of the Metro believed, but sentient beings wanting nothing more but peace with humanity. Unfortunately, Metro citizens didn't understand their desire to live in symbiotic society, thus "striking back" before any attempt to create peace was ever made. As the Dark Ones would approach VDNKh in long strides, trying to simply walk into the station, the station guard would fire upon them out of fear, desperation, and a sudden onset of madness. It's revealed in The Gospel According to Artyom, and suggested by the opening scene in Metro Last Light, that the Dark Ones never intended for the death of humans, yet their very presence and psychic influence drove the humans mad, and they subsequently killed each other.

>>15856049

>because?

Because you stated

>justified,yes, but

There's no buts. It was completely justified. If there's a threat you neutralize it and it makes sense to prioritize on risks and danger. They're more dangerous than the other mutants in the areas so it makes sense to attack them over the other mutants.

>>15856049

>It's what most people would do around the world.

Yeah, if your sources say so.

>And that's when you get my point.

No, I don't. What would you send if you were facing a potential unknown threat? Students from a cooking school?

>You overestimate the friendliness of governments Anon.

Maybe. What I don't underestimate is that the military is not fucking braindead. A species advanced enough to come to Earth in a spaceship capable of bending the laws of physics to reach FTL speeds is probably advanced enough to wipe us all. It is worth trying not shooting first.

Unfortunately, in the case of the Dark Ones, they shot first. Unfortunately for them, they are not powerful enough to actually wipe us.

>>15855672

>I can't wait for S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 to be revealed and to be consolecucked, Americanized and leftycucked.

At most S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 will be like fallout 76 with Battle Royale.

>>15855175

"Dark Ones" is a PC mistranslation in the original Russian it's basically "NIGGERS".

>>15856063

>Killing a sapient species is justified because they're sapient

No.

>>15856073

>There is nothing irrational about treating disfigured, psychic creatures with the utmost caution

Correct, but there's a difference between treating cautiously and exterminating on sight.

>The survival of your species > The survival of any other species

Shitty truth about existence, thanks to mortality.

>>15856074

>if your sources say so.

I didn't make the first claim that "this scenario hasn't happened since before we were even called humans", but if your sources say so.

>What would you send if you were facing a potential unknown threat?

Why would I send anything unless it attacked me in the first place?

>What I don't underestimate is that the military is not fucking braindead.

Oh boy you'll be amazed at all the stories of the Cold War.

>It is worth trying not shooting first.

Guess we'll have to wait and see, but you can bet some grunt or suit will freak out and shoot first.

>they shot first

By being shot by humans?

>>15855464

So this pretty much is the Attack on Titans syndrome but they went further after revealing that the Titans were the good guys all along and the real evil nazi's are humans or Marleyans. From what I'm gathering, it seems the books were more subtle about it.

>>15856049

>Because…?

You don't understand how intelligence and psychic powers translates into offensive effectiveness? Don't pretend to be stupid, it's tiresome.

>Which was preceded by humans shooting them on sight when they first came down to the Metro, and unintentional

>their very presence and psychic influence drove the humans mad

Do you see the relationship here? If Dark Ones respond to human threats (which the Dark Ones aggravate through psychic shit) by killing a station of people, but are also fundamentally incapable of coexistence with humans, they are FAR more deserving of hostility than any other human faction, and morally on similarly poor footing. The only reason they get focused on more than other mutants is because they are 1) extremely dangerous in a prolonged fight and 2) are concentrated and so can be killed off in a single easy stroke, unlike most mutants.

It has nothing to do with them being sapient or not, ironically nullifying one of the author's intended messages.

>>15856097

>no

Yes it is. They've shown that they can kill people, they've established themselves as a threat. It's smart to prioritize threats. So what you said here >>15856000

>Yes, the brain frying shit, although unintentional according to the story, put humans on alert. Justified, yes, but then they go on to make an entire mission to wipe out the Dark Ones who're in buttfuck nowhere despite all the myriad of other mutants actively rampaging through the Metro

Is wrong. It's not

>justified, but

It's justified, fully. That attack wasn't "out there" or irrational or any less justified to attack them over the other mutants. You take care of threats and the bigger threats get high priority. It was justified.

>>15855835

How is it in any way irrational? On the contrary, it's a perfectly rational response to a potential threat of which you have well-founded fear. Even if we assume the ideal scenario in which the dark ones are perfectly peaceful, they would still be a drain on Earth's resources which YOU could use instead. Genociding the Dark Ones is the correct choice no matter how you look at it.

>>15855164

>a convinced internationalist

How horrifying.

>>15856105

>You don't understand how intelligence and psychic powers translates into offensive effectiveness?

I understand that they translate into offensive effectiveness when they're actually used to harm humans. Stop being dumb.

>If Dark Ones respond to human threats by killing

Read that paragraph again. Start to end. I just told you to stop being dumb.

>>15856111

>they've established themselves as a threat

Unintentionally. And I see yet another aspect of humanity here, which is arrogance. Humans attack first before knowing if the Dark Ones are a threat or not, and don't stop attacking despite the Dark Ones not fighting back at all. Read the paragraph again before saying they did.

And don't play dumb, they can actually tell when something is aggressive or not. Through the eyes of a Dark One, aggressive beings glow red, fearful ones glow blue, ambivalent glow yellow, and friends appear green. This is why they haven't attempted to enter the Metro after their first encounter with humans, and are mostly seen outside.

>>15856112

It's logical to be alert and keep a gun ready, not to shoot before you know what they'll do.

>they would still be a drain on Earth's resources which YOU could use instead

Like what? Their diat is literally just radiation. They're actually trying to help humans GET those other resources they need.

>>15856097

It's the fact they're sapient which not only justfies, but demands their complete extermination. Were there more sapient species, humanity would lose its position as the sole masters of the world. By allowing the existence of another sapient species, you allow the possibility of them out-competing (and thus eventually replacing) humanity. Were humanity to go extinct due to the actions of said species, the causes would be traced to the idiotic decision of not exterminating this species when there was still chance. So on hand, we have the threat of our species going extinct, on the other some… vague hopes of cultural enrichment from? What is there to gain from allowing more sapient species to coexist? What is there to counterbalance the risk of extinction and the certainty of having to share resources?

>>15856096

They're literally called "blacks" in the Russian version. черный

>>15856137

>Like what?

Setting aside that them living literally on just radiation is bullshit, even then there would be a matter of living space and the necessity of having designated lots full of radiation so that they could be fed. Why have that? Why have patches of irradiated land we cannot use, instead of fields of wheat? Why suffer their nightmarish hives upon the landscape when there could be a village?

>>15856150

>Or combining forces of both species to speed up the process of achieving interstellar travel and leaving to find more habitable planets with more resources. Ever thought of that?

are you a sodomite, or a woman?

>>15856147

>implying commies or nazis wouldn't set off another nuke before you could even restore an apartment complex

lmao

>>15856150

>Or combining forces of both species to speed up the process of achieving interstellar travel and leaving to find more habitable planets with more resources. Ever thought of that?

Why would they bring something that we cannot figure out on our own? If they are more intelligent than us, why would they suffer sharing their resources and living space with lesser species? If we eliminated them, we could just colonise space at our own pace without the need to share it with some xeno filth.

>>15856150

Mate, I get that you mean well, but putting two vastly different sapient species next to each other is a recipe for disaster. There can only ever be one apex predator on the planet.

>>15856137

>when they're actually used to harm humans.

They were, after the shooting. Or do psychic attacks not count as harm to you?

>Read that paragraph again

I did, that paragraph is Artyom making judgements in his own mind, not some divine truth of the scenario. No, I'm not denying events of the book by saying that, simply his interpretation of how a military response was not justified.

>arrogance. Humans attack first before knowing if the Dark Ones are a threat or not

Everything on the surface is a threat. Pattern recognition is not arrogance, but ignoring patterns is most certainly at the root of foolishness.

>Their diat is literally just radiation.

Learn how the laws of conservation work.

>>15856150

>combining forces of both species

Will always come at the detriment of the better species among large animals. Always.

>>15855835

>>15855791

The weaker species dies, that's the rules of nature. Also the commentary is falwed. From humanities perspective, these giant black things were killing everyone it came into contact with. So why wouldn't we kill them whereever we found them?

>>15856097

>I didn't make the first claim that "this scenario hasn't happened since before we were even called humans", but if your sources say so.

When have we encountered a sapient species as smart or smarter than us? Yes, we have encountered Neanderthals. They now form part of our DNA, or at least the DNA of some populations. This is a scientific fact. You can read about it here

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/

No, I am not going to archive it. Do it yourself, I don't care enough to wait for the archival

If we did not "accept" them, we wouldn't have intermingled with them, or if we did, their genetic lines would have been lost to time. The fact that their DNA has been kept to this day shows they, or the sons of homo sapiens-Neanderthal rapes, if you are going the edgy route, were embraced in primitive societies

>Why would I send anything unless it attacked me in the first place?

To keep it watched. I mean, it's one thing to be a pacifist; it's a completely different thing to be completely carefree. You don't know what they want to do, so you need to send a recon team at the very least. And they better have some weapons in them in case they do decide to attempt to kill them.

>Guess we'll have to wait and see, but you can bet some grunt or suit will freak out and shoot first.

I'm just gonna reply to this with a smug

>implying

>>15856049

>>15856137

You're fucking mouthbreathing retard. Here's what it boils down to from anyone sane person's reasoning"

>They are intelligent and sapient

>They have killed entire villages/towns

>They can't (or seemingly won't) communicate, and even if they could, they could be lying and manipulative

>Their powerful psychic abilities makes them extremely dangerous

If you were living in the metro, you'd weigh the chances of survival of YOU AND YOURS as higher than some monstrosities that have demonstrated that they are hostile from your perspective. You would be unfit to lead anybody in any scenario.

>Humans attack first before knowing if the Dark Ones are a threat or not, and don't stop attacking despite the Dark Ones not fighting back at all.

Humans retaliated to their group being threatened.

>>15856147

>Setting aside that them living literally on just radiation is bullshit

Well it IS a work of fiction.

>a matter of living space

There's about 50 of them total living outside in a trench somewhere. One MOAB is enough to take them all out. Also, the entirety of Russia, if not the whole world, is vacant. It's a post-nuclear war world, plenty of people got purged. There's plenty of space.

>the necessity of having designated lots full of radiation so that they could be fed

I bet there's plenty of that to go around after a nuclear fucking war.

>Why have that?

They consume the radiation and now humanity can use the patches of land that are no longer irradiated. Why have that indeed.

>instead of fields of wheat? Why suffer their nightmarish hives upon the landscape when there could be a village?

Why survive in a post-apocalyptic world at all then? Just commit mass suicide.

>>15856151

Sorry, I don't speak retarese. You got an argument or not?

>>15856163

>Why would they bring something that we cannot figure out on our own?

Did you figure out all the thing you've learned at school and college on your own? What's wrong with having them figure out new shit for us to use?

> If they are more intelligent than us, why would they suffer sharing their resources and living space with lesser species?

If they choose to help, it's because they chose to help. Empathy comes naturally with high intellect.

>If we eliminated them, we could just

Die stuck on this rock because it's covered in fucking radiation.

But if you're talking outside of Metro's universe, then we could die stuck on this rock because there's no fucking way in hell that's happening while jews, niggers and welfare are still around, and it's not gonna happen anytime soon either. Think about it, 40kman.

>>15856166

That was my point from the beginning.

>>15856185

>As the Dark Ones would approach VDNKh in long strides, trying to simply walk into the station, the station guard would fire upon them out of fear, desperation, and a sudden onset of madness.

This is canon, not his judgement.

>Learn how the laws of conservation work.

Energy transforms, buddy.

>>15856191

Because it happened once, it happened after they were shot at, they did not know their psychic powers were harmful to humans, and they never bothered humans again (until humans came after them instead).

>>15856192

>When have we encountered a sapient species as smart or smarter than us?

Do we need evidence of what happens when we already either kill or dubdue every other species already?

>it's one thing to be a pacifist

You don't have to be a pacifist to understand basic dynamics of socialization.

>You don't know what they want to do, so you need to send a recon team at the very least. And they better have some weapons in them in case they do decide to attempt to kill them.

I already said this was valid, but the humans in Metro shot first and indiscriminately.

>Implying

Have you ever seen how uncontacted peoples react to civilized humans? You can even find videos of it.

>>15856202

Read the entire discussion before opening your whore mouth. It's already been established that humans attacked first before even being harmed by psychic effects. Get off that wall of dicks and pay fucking attention.

>>15856219

>assuming a differnt sapient spiecies is friendly only because you wish that way

You're either a woman or you have a brain like one.

>>15856219

>This is canon, not his judgement.

I literally said i wan't denying the events described, but the interpretation that the strike was unjustified. Learn to read.

>Energy transforms, buddy.

But not into matter. It can be used to increase mass, but that's not a means of sustenance

>humans attacked first before even being harmed by psychic effects

>Before

See your own quote, retard >>15856049

>a sudden onset of madness

>their very presence and psychic influence drove the humans mad

As for the alien invasion discussion, I like how you conveniently ignored the neanderthal history poster who blew your ass out of the water.

>>15856219

They are superior to humanity, therefore they will eventually replace us and cause us to go extinct, either intentionally or not. This is seen all over nature with invasive species and can even be found in the fossil records. Exterminating them before they become big enough to be a threat is the most rational choice, if you want your species to survive. Otherwise you are a cuck.

>>15856256

Also true, not to mention that for surviving, humankind will evolve and progress on it's own, and will still achieve greater biological success in the long term for the struggle.

>>15856219

>Empathy comes naturally with high intellect.

No, it fucking doesn't. Intelligent people are no more empathetic than anyone else.

>It's already been established that humans attacked first before even being harmed by psychic effects

Absolutely irrelevant. These creatures are a threat.

>and they never bothered humans again (until humans came after them instead).

Until they decide to do so. All it takes is a charismatic leader to unify their group and point out that they have rightful claim to the world now by being most adapted to it, a variety of divine right, and start cleansing, you soy-gulping faggot.

>>15855164

>and the Dark Ones don’t work. Washington DC is a black city basically

Its like he doesnt see the similarities.

>>15855175

play the game you double nigger faggot!

>>15856219

>Well it IS a work of fiction.

Which ignores even the most basic laws of physics.

>There's about 50 of them total living outside in a trench somewhere.

I naturally assume they will reproduce.

> Also, the entirety of Russia, if not the whole world, is vacant.

But it won't be in a thousand years.

>I bet there's plenty of that to go around after a nuclear fucking war.

Yeah, but when you bring in a new species, you need to take long term into the consideration as well. Will there be enough of that a hundred years from then? How about a thousand? Ten thousand?

>They consume the radiation and now humanity can use the patches of land that are no longer irradiated.

First of all, the whole "world is irradiated because nukes" argument is bullshit, but for the sake of the setting, let's assume it's true. Even then, it is a temporary problem at best, as land does not stay irradiated forever. A new species in the mix, well, that IS a permanent problem unless you genocide it somewhere along the way.

>Why survive in a post-apocalyptic world at all then?

Because it's not going to stay that way forever? What kind of argument is that?

>>15856219

>Do we need evidence of what happens when we already either kill or dubdue every other species already?

Yes we do. You can't remotely even compare animals to humans because despite being animals ourselves, we work very differently. And yes, we already have proof of what happens when we approach a species of similar intellect to ours. It's in our DNA.

>You don't have to be a pacifist to understand basic dynamics of socialization.

If they are so intelligent, they will surely understand it's natural to be wary of a monster orbital-landing in your yard. They can understand we do not understand yet whether they are friendly or not.

>I already said this was valid, but the humans in Metro shot first and indiscriminately.

Well, let's assume they found the wrong humans to talk to. Those who can not control their instincts and stupidly decide to react to their fight or flight instincts with "fight" in the equivalent of attempting to fight a bear in a melee battle with your bare hands. Turns out the humans manage to harm these aliens who have just come to Earth, and they retaliate (which is perfectly natural and comprehensible).

First, the aliens probably understood contact had some risks. Shame on them for not taking precautions, like attempting to contact from afar via telecoms or behind a barrier, but okay, I can understand if they come from a culture where distrust is nonexistant. Second, let's say the aliens are so good and pacifist they still attempt to peacefully contact humanity again. Did they decide we were a bunch of assholes and dropped any and all future contact attempts, or even declare war on us, I would be able to understand them, but let's say they are beings of light and they can hold no grudge. They attempt the same strategy, and sadly, they are met with similar results. They try again, and they seem to find some humans who do want to be contacted, and they somehow drive them mad when they attempt to speak to them. They have luck with some willing humans again, and again, they accidentally kill them. Really, at this point you should get the message; if you keep trying, you are either not as supremely intelligent as you say you are, or it is not "an accident" at all, and the humans are completely in the right of their attempts to nuke you.

>Have you ever seen how uncontacted peoples react to civilized humans? You can even find videos of it.

Depends on the tribe, really. As I said earlier on, humanity is chaotic, and we are both saints and devils. Some uncivilized tribes are actually more cautious, yet friendly. Just think we were "those weird slimy pale boys" at some point to all formerly uncontacted, now contacted tribes.

>>15856219

>What's wrong with having them figure out new shit for us to use?

We can figure that shit out ourselves without the need to introduce such a threat among ourselves.

>f they choose to help, it's because they chose to help. Empathy comes naturally with high intellect.

You assume an entirely different species will be empathetic, which you have no grounds for. Even then, you'd wager the future of a species on "They'll be too wuss to genocide us"? You're an imbecile.

>Die stuck on this rock because it's covered in fucking radiation.

Again, radiation is temporary. And when I mean temporary, I'm not taking millenia, I'm talking a few years at most, but more likely just days (the whole "Fallout lasts centuries" is just authors being uneducated retards who know nothing about the problematic)

Wait, was Metro 2033 multiculti propaganda?

>>15856408

The author intended it to be, but it really isn't because the setup supports the opposite message.

>>15856408

Doesn't really seem like it. While it does use it to furher its message, it seems the actual morale behind the book is simply "we hoominz are dumb"

>>15856408

The book was very anti religion and anti nazi

>>15856421

>>15856422

>>15856427

I see. I never played/read it, just assumed the only moral was an anti-mutant one.

>>15855164

Why does it have to be a Hollywood made movie? Are there not any other countries that could to the story justice?

>>15856408

No, more of an exercise on how groups work even one station apart during crisis. It is a good read, with an easy blueprint to make a movie, which is why I am happy it is not going to turn into sjw propaganda over here. The ghosts of the soviet subversion program are over in America, Artyom. The Dark Ones are over here now. You are just seeing shadows and are afraid of the unknown.

>>15855397

>I'm an internationalist

>It's funny that Learned these gay ideas from an illegal kike nation state that insists it's entire population be jewish

Really makes my brain do things.

>>15856427

Considering the new game coming up (exodus) is going to be pulling shit from the third book, (and the bad guys from the trailers appear to be Orthodox clergy, and other assorted ebil people) I feel like exodus is going to be more on the nose than 2033 or last light.

>>15856440

The nazi's are the one's who are anti mutant

That side is portrayed as evil

>nazi's want to kill all mutants and genetic duds

>>15856408

It's more of a natural reaction of humans towards the fear of the unknown and how history repeats itself, nazis, commies and other factions are just used because of the whole culture and story their country has.

>>15855164

>The planned MGM film would have moved the story from Moscow to Washington DC.

I can't even comprehend how stupid this is. The charm is that the series is about some Rooskies squatting in a Metro replaying 20th century Yuropeen politics.

I thought that Metro was a cool and interesting insight on cold war fears and the metro system within Russian culture. Why in the fuck would it take place in DC?

>>15856009

Using cavemen as a primordial example of basic ideas has existed before Le epic wowjak edit you fucking newfag.

>>15856219

>all this bullshit to defend commie "writing"

lol

Anyway, Roadside Picnic and STALKER were much better than Metro. I never bothered with this series after the first game.

>>15856289

>play the game

No, the only thing that was good about the first one was how beautiful it was, the story is weak and the themes are even weaker. The other anon was right, the writer is a communist faggot and the games (especially Last Light) show that proud as can be.

Stalker did radioactive mutants better, it didn't feel the need to shove cartoonish depictions of political entities down the player's throat, every faction in Stalker made sense, each had goals that you as a player could both understand and sympathize with. But fuck freedumb, they're niggerish hedonists

Good story telling insists that all characters in the story have understandable motives and believable reactions, Metro provides none of that. It's just the former USSR wanking about how they dindunuffin and that nuclear power is evil, it even makes the "dark ones" the good guys Hurr spoiler, as if nobody could see that shit from a million miles away. Oh how poetic, you fucking faggot.

>>15856680

Did you play vanilla STALKER?

>>15856694

I still don't quite understand why modern shooters can't get guns right. They always feel like peashooters. I mean, some HUE faggot modding Doom does a better job in his spare time than the whole gaming industry combined.

>>15856712

are you talking about BRUTAL doom? good bait

>>15856725

There's nothing worse than a Doom hipster.

>>15856737

>he actually thinks brutal doom is good

hahahaha. Should've recommended Hideous Destructor

>>15856737

>>15856857

Wait, what gave you the idea there was going to be an NG+ in the first place?

>>15856857

First mistake. Don't play vanilla stalker, all of the damages are messed up due to slav coding. Go grab the ZRP mod and play on master difficulty, if all goes well and you finish the game, go play CoP next. When you're done with that, try out several different mods such as AMK, Autumn Aurora, CoC, Radiophobia, Last Day, Dead Air, STALKER Soup etc.

>>15856937

>usually those types of games have NG+

No, they don't.

>>15856937

The game is playable in vanilla, but it's highly recommended to play with a few fixes and/or mods because of how janky it can be at times.

>the damages didnt seem messed up to me

Are you playing on master? Do you play with crosshair on?

>i also thought there would be a secret ending if you killed yourself after finding out you where strelok the whole time and the quest was completed, i ended up having to redo an entire area.

That actually sounds hilarious. There's some cut content where you're thrown into a Merc jail cell with Doctor and you fail the mission when he tells you who you are.

>>15857021

Might as well be Gangs of JewYork with nuclear magic.

>>15857113

>going so far to not let them represent themselves in the Senate

I think you have a pretty warped idea of how the Roman Republic actually functioned.

>>15857120

Well it was gone in the next decades.

Show me my errors, I'm open minded.

>>15857113

>he thinks the celtic religion was wiped out

Lmao, i'll let you fill in the blanks. For the mindcontrol of the population and the practice of rituals, the druids used many forms of charms and enchantments, illusions and tricks, all of wich were done by wielding a wand made of branches of _____.

>>15855932

>It's fine that they melt people's brains as long as it's accidental

Jeez, what xenophobic morons, don't they know that the monsters that melt peoples' brains only do it accidentally? We must let them in! So you're saying the author is a brainlet who can't even get the messaging of his own story right?

>>15855630

>Paranoia

Wasn't Paranoia pretty much just the first Resident Evil movie but with some CIA spooks that you kill at the end?

>>15855164

>Nazis don’t work

Nazis are the villains in Metro? Damn, glad I never played those shit games.

>>15858753

The communists are also the villains.

based and russianpilled.

fuck murka shite.

>>15858753

:/

All these anons figuring out what was the point of blacks. I thought it was simply supposed to be like a tragedy, where blacks wanted to help humanity, but ended up screwing them up, while Artem wanted to help people, then discovered he just nuked other, sentient mutants, who could've helped humanity, but too fucking bad, you just nuked them, now go live the rest of your live with a gigantic failure and guilt, while everyone else celebrates you as a hero (or something).

>>15857051

They really don't. Plus, it was from before NG+ become big. It was all on you.

>>15859942

Well, in Yume Nikki it is more like of you get an ending, you kill yourself

>>15858853

>muh enlightened centrism

Sounds terrible.

>>15860460

>Hates nazis and commies

>Muh centrism

Or maybe hating on 2 groups of retards who had both their countries fall is just common sense for most people

>>15860487

>muh nazis

Hello newfriend.

>>15860487

>muh ebil nahtzees!

Go back to reddit.

>>15860510

>>15860504

>Hating nazis

Nobody said anything about hate, just saying there is a reason there is no nazi germany around anymore

>>15855630

I liked how Bourbon turned out to be in the game. He's sketchy as fuck but at the end he was a cool dude. iirc there was an implication that he's going to backstab though.

Based slav does not want any niggers, strong women and drumpf agitation in his game.

>>15860521

The reason is because kikes controlled America and Britain, used those two nations to give massive funding to the USSR, and then ganged up on Germany.

The reason the Third Reich fell had nothing to do with whether their system worked and everything to do with enemy nations joining up to stop them from being free of the kikes.

>>15855164

Good on Glukhovsky for being a man and protecting his IP.

>>15860630

What, you'd rather be associated with reddit?

Fuck off back there, then.

>>15860630

>a handful of retards doing stupid shit negates the ideology

>runs out of arguments so starts strawmanning

We're reaching levels of strawmanning that shouldn't be possible.

>>15860636

I don't associate myself with anything, both sides are unironically retarded, and you can post all the horseshoe memes you want

>>15860641

>Handful

>>15860653

Stating that you expect others to use the horseshoe maymay after making a stupid statement like

>I don't associate myself with anything

doesn't invalidate it. You are the embodiment of the horseshoe fenceshitter and you should truly take your own life, you worthless braindead niggerjew.

>>15860653

>I don't associate myself with anything

Yet you still want to post your opinions about politics online. Guess what, no one cares what you have to say when you offer no solutions.

>hurrr, everyone is bad guize, lol

Fucking wonderful, that's really enlightening, you're totally not just a lazy faggot who can't be bothered to critically examine the world and recognize that certain things are better than others despite still not being perfect.

>>15855570

> but that's not how the author intended it.

Then why is it the canon ending?

>>15860682

He meant that holocausting without a second thought wasn't the intended ending. It's supposed to be 2deep and meaningful shit.

>>15858096

Nice try Moloch, I'll nuke your prison on Saturn

>>15863831

>>15863869

Prepare for full """"modernisation"""" and associated cancer, I'd guess.

Last Light is already a shitty hollyjew movie. Just play that garbage instead.

>the entire story of xenophobia

As much as I enjoyed 2033, it is faggot shit. Kill natseez, and save muh dark ones.

>>15855591

>Dark Ones are beings that are fewer in number than humans but infinitely more intelligent and powerful than humans

A minority being portrayed as enlightened is fully in line with the kike agenda, you dullard.

>>15866399

>he doesn't realize whites are the minority population of the world and are truly enlightened and better than shitskins

>>15855835

>unfounded fear.

Just thousands of years of witnessing the power struggle that is nature. Fuck off, queer.

>convinced internationalist

cue dissolution as you cannot have a cultural foundation built on hot air ideals

>>15866413

I do realize that, but I'm looking at the propaganda from the point of view of people who don't realize that thanks to the (((media))) constantly calling brown people "minorities", because I'm not a simpleton who thinks my knowledge extends to everyone.

>>15866441

fuck off reddit, don't you think we know that?

>>15855962

>kike pilpuls about fucking lion behavior

There can never, and should never be trust between groups. A healthy distrust in an uncertain world is what keeps you alive.

>>15866458

An illiterate like you will never understand the irony of your post.

>>15866475

An autistic retard like you will never understand how stupid you look, or why nobody likes you.

>>15866485

Case in point.