/v/ - Video Games

Because Microsoft wasn't deleted after years of monopoly tactics. Blame it all on US corruption.

Because people are retarded and will deal with cancer as long as it's easy to work with, just put it in the disc tray or click download then your down.

>>15836933

>your

>Because people are retarded

Clearly.

Can I make linux work like Altimit OS?

>>15836924

linux is shit

Because most people that are aware enough of Microsoft's bullshit will also be aware of how detrimental is helping Valve's monopoly on PC and will chose not to use Steam.

>>15836924

Because people want to do things on the computer, not to "use the operating system".

>>15836952

what

People who use nix dont really want spyware installed, and sending their shit to data collectors.

>>15836939

>grammatical mistakes define intellect

>>>/reddit/

Hasn't Valve been working on their very own Linux OS, whatever happened to that?

>>15836962

As with every other project from valve, it's half-assed and is not worth a damn. You are better of installing whatever other GNU/Linux distro and only install the essential stuff for gaming and call it a day.

>>15836962

>>15836967

After the steam boxes were half assed and scrapped they took a step back and are now reworking it.

Rumor is that they'll release it once Proton is out of Beta.

>>15836956

Windows and Mac are for people who want to do shit on the computer separate from the OS itself. If you want to use Linux you need to love Linux and spend exorbitant amounts of attention and effort into managing it and learning how it works.

>>15836958

This. Steam is a bad metric of Linux gaming

>>15836976

I don't agree at all. Many flavor of Linux work out of the box, the only setup I had to do for mine was battery optimization.

Linux is still the best option for most development.

>>15836924

The reason why Linux is unpopular is because it's QoL features are dogshit and because it doesn't support nearly as many games as Windows. Mystery solved.

>>15836980

All "user friendly" linux distros are garbage, mate.

>>15836985

install gentoo hehe

>>15836967

>it's half-assed and is not worth a damn.

just like every linux distro.

its right at home.

>>15836924

>How the fuck are there more people using macs with steam than Linux

Normalfags.

>>15836924

Linux is inaccessible. That's it. That's the big fucking answer, and you already know it.

>>15837011

why

Installing linux is easier and more user friendly than installing windows lmao

>>15837014

talking straight out your ass.

>>15837022

Linux Mint is literally 1,2,3, you're done.

>>15837022

Ubuntu comes with an installation wizard that even partitions your HDD automatically in case you want to dual boot and installs all drivers automatically

There's absolutely zero effort

I wouldnt use and recommend a Linux distros for primarily vidya (as in heavy use) with the sole exception of console emulation. PlayOnLinux might make Wine easier in certain cases (specifically for japanese PC vidya) but you still face many technical issues that might or not be fixed by your own.

>>15837038

Windows is literally install and done.

it's actually useful for stuff unlike linux

>>15837048

Ubuntu inspired windows to add cortana into their os and spy on its users.

if you are using ubuntu you are an idiot.

>>15837031

what's the fucking point of even using linux in the first place.

>>15837064

>Ubuntu inspired windows to add cortana into their os and spy on its users.

>if you are using ubuntu you are an idiot.

I can't possibly believe someone would say something so stupid and actually think people would take him seriously.

I mean really, what do you expect someone to tell you when you write stupid shit like this? What kind of fucking claim is this? Are you just trying to wind me up? Cause you've succeeded.

>>15836956

Most people aren't keen on building/maintaining their own OS as they go, the lack of features, compatibility and general pissing about to get anything new working is a combination of inconvenient and pointless. Factor in that anyone sane already knows how to use Win, that one button hipster faggots on their Macs aren't going anywhere near it, that growing the mandatory 3 foot beard full of crumbs and fostering a head full of unwarranted smugness over a broken mess of code is asking rather a lot of commitment from the user and one is suddenly enlightened as to why it's not so popular.

Oh and its main contributors being horrifying corporate monoliths and the main leg of it was recently taken over by trannies. Linux smells worse than a neglected dog.

>>15837072

Hello dipshit is anyone in there?!

If you don't even know this basic fact than SHUT THE FUCK UP!

>>15837091

>t. someone that has never used Linux

>>tfw love Linux

I bet you love cock (female) too.

>>15837112

How the fuck are you even comparing linux used as a server with Linux used as an everyday OS? The two things are completely different.

Also the reason why people use Linux as a server is because unlike windows, if someone breaks or crashes, the whole system doesn't go down and blue screens.

>>15836980

>Linux is still the best option for most development

One thing I never understood about this "linux is better for developers!" thing. If that is really the case, then how come Windows has superior alternatives to every piece of software that Linux has, on top of having a load of software that Linux doesn't? If all software was free, Linux would have basically nothing that's better except maybe some server related shit.

>>15836924

Because macs have more games then linux.

>>15837141

Had my current installation of Linux for 3 months and I have not had any problems with it. My server has been running uninterrupted for the past 3 years.

You know why? Because I'm not a tech illiterate retard, unlike you apparently.

I use it because having Linux on my laptop, linux gives me a 100%+ increase of battery life. Not even kidding. Bought this shit and it had 2 hours and a half of battery, installed Linux and it now goes up to 7 hours.

Not only that, thanks to the way Linux is built I can switch between integrated graphics and dedicated without having to restart my laptop, something that somehow windows has yet to figure out.

You've only got yourself to blame.

>>15837178

You're saying it's okay Windows spies on you because other things spy on you. You are using retard logic.

Your server isn't a company server that has possibly hundreds of users you fucking retard, you can't compare.

>>15837188

Don't use Windows, don't use Intel, delete or block cookies.

>>15837183

>he trusts linux and thinks there is no spying

>he didn't read line by line the entire code by himself to check everytime there is an update.

Do we have a winblows shill bingo?

>using tranny CoCold software

when will kikes and fags stop pushing (((UN*X)))

>>15837201

There are other processor architectures you can use. Use a vpn. Don't use Chrome. Backdoors in what OS? What are these backdoors? I know Windows has a few for sure. But you'll have to point out backdoors in other operating systems.

>>15836930

>monopoly tactics

Like what? I actually remember "Ma Bell" being split into the "Baby Bells" along with why the government did that. In what ways do you believe Microsoft is/was operating as a monopoly?

>>15837201

The entire purpose of free, libre, open-source software is so you can >>15837195 and know there is no backdoor in the FLOSS software you use.

Doesn't stop things at the hardware level though, somebody needs to make FLOSS hardware that has even a tenth the performance of modern hardware.

>>15837215

Check out the Talos II system. It has very good performance, but depending on the model get, it can be very expensive.

>>15837144

>maybe some server related shit

Everything server related on windows is garbage though

>>15837014

it doesn't matter how easy to install it is, normalfags want to walk to a store, buy a pretty computer without doing any research beforehand, complain when something doesn't work because they didn't do any research, and use it as a dedicated web browsing machine.

>>15837065

Wait, why's the grading scale 0-20?

>>15837220

You should look up guides on how to use the internet anonymously. It's wasted effort for me to duplicate in a post here.

>>15837237

I'm quite aware of how internet surveillance is conducted without requiring a guide. I was merely suggesting you use a guide for an introduction.

>>15837144

Windows and Mac has better consumer facing software, but not dev tools. The way linux itself works in tandem with all the gnutils is like programmer magic with all the ways you can wire shit up on the fly. I'd argue though that this power and flexibility is why you don't get the same level fo consumer facing software for linux. The user base is generally so knowledgable and the tools already available to them are so flexible that they can construct their own solutions as needed.

the case of Linux is an interesting one, games are gravitating rapidly towards platform ambivalence with Vulkan and nVidia drivers now being up to date across platforms, despite the apparent lack of growth on the OS. Even games just released will frequently work out of the box with Wine, or have a direct Linux port like Total War or even most recent CRPGs.

>>15836985

by what standard? There's nothing wrong with Mint, although I wish they would just ship with actual nVidia drivers instead of that nouveau garbage that barely works. manufacturers make the best drivers for their hardware, who would have guessed? but muh non open source software

>>15836962

they gave up in favor of supporting a Wine branch, I wish I were joking not that I would want to use a ValveOS anyway but it's still kinda pathetic

>>15836984

>fully customizable interface and desktop environment

>updating your software is even easier than Windows

you and I have very different outlooks on QoL

>>15836924

>How the fuck are there more people using macs with steam than Linux

Because macOS comes pre-installed on Macs. Most people don't really care, they will just use whatever is on the computer by default. To use GNU/Linux you would have to install it yourself or the person maintaining your computer would have to install it for you.

Installing GNU/Linux is piss easy with the noob-friendly distros, I'd say it's even easier than installing Windows, but you have to make the conscious decision to install it in the first place.

I love how desperate the windows shill is trying to deflect from windows by shitting on linux. He probably fell for the arch meme and tried using that as his first dirstro, massively fucked up and he's been butthurt ever since.

I wonder if we'll get dykecuck or blackpillfag levels of damage control in this thread?

>>15837282

He reminds me of a guy who I used to play games with, he claimed to be a /pol/ack and name dropped 8chan who discovered it during the 2016 election. for the record I never told him I used 8chan or any imageboard even after he started namedropping the site anyway he would act suspicious of everything except microsoft because he worked for microsoft, guy was the biggest shill for cloud computing/storage and microsoft I've ever seen. He claimed to hate the company but whenever anything technical came up his trusty old microsoft had a totally secure and oerfect option for all your needs.

It disgusted me and it made me hate him

>>15837277

I find Mac OS and Linux pleasant to develop on but I can't fucking stand developing on Windows. What a terrible environment. I struggle to believe there are programmers that actively like it instead of just being ignorant of other options.

Linux vs Windows console wars need to be banned.

>>15837321

>trusting NSA/windows

>trusting Mao/OSX

>>15837311

>dykecuck

I must haved missed that one.

>>15837295

related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4jiOuCnXc

>>15837313

it's painfully obvious he's a cuckchanneler, probably asspained about getting banned - not even /g/ tolerates that 4/v/ level of blatant faggotry for long.

>>15837301

> I'd say it's even easier than installing Windows,

Now you're just lying, anon. Windows is five "next" presses and, on a desktop, that's all. Never on any of my attempts has Linux been that fucking easy.

You can make arguments for everything else, but "installing it is easier" is just fucking lying.

>>15837052

Use Lutris instead, I find it easier. Also, compatibility seems to be good for everything I tried.

>>15837366

What do you expect? News about Linux getting CoCked has been known for the past few months. Anyone still using it is a hypocrite to attack Windows and MacOS users.

>>15837361

if you have supported hardware and use something like ubuntu or mint it's literally the same, except you have less to deal with the shit that comes afterwards. also keeping the system up to date is ''way' easier.

on laptops it's even worse, especially when most companies stop providing drivers and software.

>Windows just happens to be the one where it's the easiest to get things to work.

really depends on the use case, windows has way more stupid shit to deal with than general incompatibility of a different OS.

>>15837361

Then post-installation:

>uninstall spyware updates

>disable Windows Update

>disable the various Windows Update re-enablers built in

>open IE and download a desired browser

>download all your desired programs with said browser

With Linux:

>install desired programs with package manager of choice

>>15837401

meant to quote

>>15837389

>>15837401

>windows has way more stupid shit to deal with

I've never had to do anything to Windows 7 after installing than disable updates. Linux on the other hand I've never gotten to work 100% even after spending days trying to tinker with it. And that's not even getting to the worst part, the complete and utter mess that is installing software on Linux.

He's just obviously shitposting anon. Look how he replies to nearly every post and how much he's posted. He's over 10% of the posts made in this thread.

>>15837428

really depends on the hardware, even 7 had stupid shit like raid drivers you had to inject into your custom windows setup etc.

more exotic shit or stuff that's not officially supported isn't really the fault of linux. yeah ndiswrapper is a pain in the ass to deal with imo, but even fucking intel provides linux drivers, so there's no excuse for other companies.

> the complete and utter mess that is installing software on Linux.

but it's literally an appstore, you just install the stuff from the repo, and getting the 1-2 repos (if needed depending which dist to use) is easier than getting installers from handful of different websites.

>>15837445

The nigger openly admitted he can't keep a Linux machine going longer than a few weeks. Of course he's retarded.

>Wanted to switchto linux forever

>solutions for running windows software are Hope it's popular enough that it works on wine or use a VM

>trying to run Video editing software in a VM

Also fucking CoC

>>15837498

Depending on what features you need why not run e.g. Lightworks, DaVinci Resolve, Cinelerra or Blender natively in Linux? Why do you need VM? If you build your workflow around Linux you have a number of professional level options for a video editing software. Also imho DaVinci Resolve > Adobe Premiere Pro.

Also aren't there some weird shit about using linux off an ssd?

>>15837531

No I use Vegas like a regular person.

this christmas i will buy Bible linux book, but i don't know which is better between R.Blum and C. Negus, someone can help me? and also which books suggest to me to increase my hack skills. I know C (dead language with C++) sql and python.

Maybe i will buy sql advanced with python advanced but later because i'm studying other things.

Thanks to all.

Why would I run Steam natively instead of running it in a Windows 7 VM? I don't use Steam for anything but buying and downloading DRM-free games I can't get elsewhere, including pirate sites.

>>15837366

>>15837374

yeah, the shills here are definitely the people advocating that you get that corporate cock out of your ass, very logical.

>>15837537

no? I have it installed on my m.2 just fine

maybe you should do some research instead of regurgiating half-baked rumors

>>15837724

See: >>15837338

>>15837758

I'm not going to bother to explain how open source software to someone as retarded as yourself. You've fallen for corporate shilling because of "SJWs." You literally sound like a Polygon journo writing about the "spectre of GamerGate," afraid of ghosts that cannot even affect you, and corporate shills have latched on to that. Oh no, some cocksucker in one group of programmers did something retarded. There's this luxury we have in the *nix community called using other software that you simply don't have with a single-sourced OS.

>>15837428

>I've never had to do anything to Windows 7 after installing

In my experience, after installing the system, I still had to install a bunch of drivers from the motherboard's CD. Otherwise, even network didn't work. And after that, I still had to get the video card's driver. (I suppose the SP1 might have fixed that, but I haven't used Win7 in ages.)

>>15837779

>There's this luxury we have in the *nix community called using other software that you simply don't have with a single-sourced OS.

That's because of the fact that you're OS has no useful software, so you have to keep relying on WINE to actually do shit.

>>15837796

>you're

*your

>>15837796

Well, it's your choice. You can keep playing "all" video games and suck corporate cock – enjoy inevitably dealing with third parties not supporting Win7 at all – or you can switch to an OS where you're not beholden to the whims of kikes and only play 90% of video games.

>>15837803

Oh, is there a Win10 compatibility layer now too?

>>15837803

Or, I could switch to an OS that isn't run by a bunch cucks who deluded themselves into believing their their OS is the only alternative. And, besides, who actually places games on PC anymore since nothing produced in the past 5 years is actually worth playing, and the game that do come to computers are optimized for consoles first with computers users getting shafted every single time?

>>15836924

Good, look at what more exposure has already done to Linux.

I can only imagine what horrors would emerge if it were to become even more popular.

>>15837816

So you admit you're willing to install Win10? Wow. You're hopeless.

>>15837821

You're blinded by your console war schoolyard mentality. Linux isn't "one OS" the same way Windows or MacOS are. It's a piecemeal OS with only a few fundamentals in common between different implementations. If your software is made by "cucks" you throw ir out like rotten garbage. It's very simple, but here you are, shilling for megacorps.

>>15837836

No, I'm asking because in >>15837803 you said:

>enjoy inevitably dealing with third parties not supporting Win7 at all

Why is this relevant at all if you're not concerned with playing Win10 games?

>>15837854

I'm not, which is why I'm using Linux. You're projecting. I assume you use Win7 because that's generally the reasonable course of action if you want to play video games and not use Linux. Read the writing on the wall. Microsoft is controlled and staffed by Pajeet. Their new OS is a service that they are aggressively pushing to replace old versions wherever possible. Eventually, through contracts, Microsoft will make Win7 support a thing of the past. It will either be Win10 or no Windows at all. I suggest you get acquainted with a non-corporate alternative while it's still easy.

>>15837848

>Linux isn't "one OS" the same way Windows or MacOS are. It's a piecemeal OS with only a few fundamentals in common between different implementations.

It's built up on other people's code, which is built up on other people's code, which is built up on other people's code, which is built up on other people's code, which was developed under an agreement that the original developer could pull their code at any time, which would mean that any and ALL Linux offshoots can be shoahed at anytime because of how the previous developers dislike the direction the platform is taking with how trannies and Intel are turning the OS into everything you say that you're against.

>>15837878

Oh, okay. So men in black are going to break into my house and arrest me because I replaced systemd now? Fuck off, shill. The chances that community built replacements for integral Linux software components will magically vanish is about the same chance that video game piracy will be thwarted for good.

>>15837889

Why can't you just get over the fact that LINUX IS FUCKED?!? There's a few other OSes out there that are an easy enough replacement (And I don't mean Windows or Mac).

Linux users are a joke

Loudest, yet tiniest minority ever

>>15837876

You have not answered my question, why is support relevant?

>>15837909

How are you going to play video games if no one supports your OS? Communities can't support it due to the locked down nature of the OS and MS won't. So how is it going to happen? How are you going to play new video games on Win7 in 2025?

>>15837912

Furthermore, enjoy browsing the internet at all when all of the OS's security holes are both public knowledge and unpatched.

>>15837912

>How are you going to play new video games on Win7 in 2025?

See: >>15837821

>And, besides, who actually places games on PC anymore since nothing produced in the past 5 years is actually worth playing, and the game that do come to computers are optimized for consoles first with computers users getting shafted every single time?

>>15837918

So if you've given up on PC gaming, why are you in this thread?

>>15837920

To blackpill obviously

>>15837920

>>15837924

The cuckold is also painfully ignoring emulation.

>>15837912

>>15837914

It doesn't matter if MS supports it or not, it's still usable.

You could be running WinXP well into the 2020s and be fine.

>but muh exploits!

Security-industry hype. It's not difficult to never have any issues whatsoever, you just need to take basic precautions.

Dumb bitch nigger.

>>15837912

>How are you going to play new video games on Win7 in 2025?

This goes back to why I'm asking about a Win10 compatibility layer, because "new games" are going to move to Win10 as Microsoft tries to force it upon third-parties.

Does Linux have a Win10 compatibility layer similar to Wine? Will Wine take up this role?

>>15836924

>only a .08% increase in linux use

Good. So long as it remains unpopular it will not need a virus scanner running in the background since it's not worth targeting.

>>15837940

It doesn't need one, at least if recent trends continue, because modern libraries make compatibility with Linux very good. I was able to get Prey running perfectly in Wine for example and it was released last year. On the other hand, MS is actually heavy-handed enough to sabotage software compatibility with earlier versions of Windows. They want to make Win10 their "OS as a service" for the forseeable future.

>>15837939

>i should probably upgrade, maybe <new game> will actually be decent for once

>time to download some WinXP drivers!

>…oh

>>15837930

Sure man, whatever. I'm sure that Pajeet cum tastes delicious.

>>15837953

>new game

>decent

There's your problem.

>>15837963

They exist, they're just fewer and further in-between.

>>15837940

I think you are talking about UWP wich is rather different from the normal exe's and is basically anti tamper rolled into the OS and so far has been harder to crack then even Denuvo.

So if we are talking playing win10 games on Linux, probably not because A: There is currently no real way besides from the microsoft store to buy them and B: That even if you get it cracked you'd still need the UWP API implemented for Linux via WINE or something new.

>>15837945

Also unpopular means no (((people))) trying to milk their userbase.

I mean, look at ubuntu, one of the most popular distros and they got caught with that amazon shilling-spying bullshit.

>>15836924

Once you start installing UNIX-like OSes, you just lose all interest in video games, or at least playing them. Tinkering with shit is far more fun.

>>15837292

>you and I have very different outlooks on QoL

If it requires any customisation, it's already bad QoL. I haven't updated my windows for years and I've never had to customise a single thing in order to make things easy to use. Then there's also some absolute retardation going on with some really elementary things. Like having menu bar on the left by default rather than at the bottom or moving window buttons to the left rather than having them on the right, which just seems like a contrarian move to me.

>>15838917

It depends on the desktop environment you have loaded by default, but for me it's the opposite. Not having customization options is automatically bad QoL. I'm sure there's at least a few times in Windows where the interface presented itself as an obstacle to you and you just don't remember it or worked around it. That has been my experience. The concept of workspaces is also very useful–you can keep apps running without them taking up space on your taskbar by shunting them off to a workspace somewhere else, and come back to it with a key combo.

Personally my favorite desktop environment is MATE, but there's options for everyone, including Apple esque interfaces if you have insufferably bad taste.

Because loonix is just as big a pile of bloated, broken, buggy, overly complex shit as windows is. Between dumb commie faggots chasing windows and corporate sponsored malware, loonix went off the rails nearly 20 years ago. Anyone who wants a useful computer uses openbsd. Anyone who wants to play video games uses windows. Anyone who wants to suck dicks uses a mac.

>>15839056

> Anyone who wants a useful computer uses openbsd.

Okay, let's check the TOP500. Because, if you have one of the world's most powerful supercomputers, you must be doing something useful with it. Logically, they are running… oh, guess what. Linux, all of them.

Compatibility is GARBAGE

>>15839373

>supercomputers

>useful

Are you retarded? Nobody uses them, they just accept network jobs to crunch numbers. "Gee, whatever is used to simulate global warming with bad data to make crazy fearmongering predictions must make a great desktop!"

When MS makes Windows an OS you rent and not own.

YEAR OF THE LINUX

>>15839731

The sad thing is that there are actual Arch users who seriously believe that bullshit.

Arch is a shitty systemd mockery of a system. Slackware is vastly superior and works much better.

I guess only a linux loving faggot could use steam

>>15836924

>How the fuck are there more people using macs with steam than Linux

I feel I'm very qualified to answer this for you.

Windows is sjw converged but easy to use. Kills macs and linux when it comes to PC gaming and libraries.

Macs are sjw converged but easyish to use. A notable chunk of artist types like using macs for photoshop and video editing software. Windows PCs can do this too

Linux is sjw converged but hard to use. Eh.

I've seen public places use Windows PCs and Macs but never any PCs running Linux. It's just not mainstream, cumbersome to use, and now sjw converged to boot.