/v/ - Video Games

Too bad he can't make a good game. GoW was ground zero for QTEs being common in vidya.

>>15818873

No that was Shenmue retard.

>>15818868

SHUT DOWN THIS RACIST WHITE SUPREMACIST BABY KILLER NAZI HE'S LITERALLY EATING CHILD BRAINS

>>15818873

>having taste this shit

>>15818882

He's probably just been blacklisted from every existing western AAA studio.

>>15818881

>>15818883

Oh no, I'm not accepting this bullshit.

God of War is not, and was never a good series. Just because garbage AAA releases were better back then doesn't make them good.

I'm sick of this shit, I'm starting to see the 2000's kiddies grow up, come to /v/ and act like games such as CoD and Halo were the best things ever.

>>15818881

Oy vey, you can't insult based Sega on this board. Mods ban this filth!

these fucking kikes will pay for ruining what was the last bastion of escapism for the common man.

He's a flipflopping cuckold and has gone on record doing this kind of shit before simply for attention. I'm not giving him money, ever.

Remember to report and filter /leftypol/

>>15818893

>you will never live in the alternative timeline where mark bans any criticism of Sega instead of Nintendo

Why live?

>>15818892

>muh Halo was bad meme

Get out.

>>15818892

Seeing Halo go from being widely mocked among hardcore gamers in the 2000's to being a held as one of the best FPS games is really weird. It's so hard to believe all the scrub children who grew up on it are adults now and never had the context for the kind of games that came before Halo.

>>15818897

Your kind is not welcome here leftist.

>>15818925

>if you like halo you were underage when it came out

Not an argument.

>>15818922

> Is he an opportunist like Blazinga, criticizing anything for attention

Yes.

>>15818928

Just get the fuck out already you udnerage spic.

>>15818897

>market will naturally correct their behavior by refusing to buy their products if they go to far

>he actually STILL believes this

>>15818928

>not even reading the rest of his post

Spouting an outdated Stefan Molyneux meme is also not an argument.

>>15818934

>Spouting an outdated Stefan Molyneux meme is also not an argument.

Not an argument.

>>15818868

He's right.

>>15818940

He wasnt memeing, halo wasnt the best, but it was badass at the time. Idk where the franchise has gone since the 2nd one tho, dual wield was gimmick enough for me to come back, now its the industry standard.

>God of War has always been shit because muh QTEs

Holy shit can you faggots fuck off? There's a huge difference between God of War's QTEs and "cinematic" QTEs.

They popularised them because they were good: they didn't break up the gameplay, they were optional and you were actually realistically punished for failing them (only a small amount of the time were you actually killed, you mostly just took damage and were countered).

A lot of you here parrot on about what you've heard before and clearly never played.

>>15818903

>kids growing up

except it happens with every single game, when it first comes out retards especially on here will shit on a game for memetic purposes without ever playing the game, then when they get bored due to the lack of substance in their thoughts they fuck off. Halo was never a bad game. sure it has flaws like mirrored levels but it also has strong points like enemy AI and fairly unique vehicles (UT2K4, while one of my favorite games, blatantly stole almost all its vehicles from Halo) with enjoyable handling. the two gun limit was fine for that particular game; you can't blame Halo when retarded suits will always steal features without understanding them.

Over a decade later and shitting on overrated gen 6 trash still works as the perfect shit taste litmus test. I love it.

>>15819003

>It was shit at the time.

except we know it had objectively good vehicles since UT2K4 stole them and they were also good in that game. if you can name a shooter that isn't rainbow six or some other realistic/tactical game because that has a different appeal that has AI remotely as good as Halo 1 at the time, I'm all ears

The same guy that started a shitstorm over that "superhero prom" photo?

>>15818969

Halo did the same with regenerating health; you had a relatively small amount of shield, and then normal health below it. That way you had a window of opportunity to react to bullets, and were still punished for failing to react in time.

>>15819055

In retrospect, even mediocrity gleams like gold today.

>>15819061

Fair enough but back then they were nothing but mediocry for mass normalfag consumption and the precursors to the cancerous "blockbusters" we see today.

>>15819066

if you wanna go that route, half-life was shit because it influenced many shooters that were filled with too many setpieces. It's important to judge things objectively, not based on forum wars of the era or what they may or may not have "enabled." I'm seeing a whole lot of circle jerking in this thread and not very many arguments.

>>15818925

here we go again with the same pic over again

>IT HAS A 2 WEAPON LIMIT

i guess counter strike and F.E.A.R are shit games them.

>>15818925

This image should be an instant ban along with any other cuckchan memes like NPC. It's just lazy bait.

original god of war had QTE and unsatisfying combat but was absolutely stylish as fuck, its one of the very few games I can say is somewhat fun despite mediocre gameplay, I wouldnt say its good though

halo is the best and only game in its genre that I know of

to those saying halo fans are underageb& and "halo kiddies all grown up" you have your timeline wrong, a person who is 20 now would only have gotten to play on the very tail end of the trilogy with halo 3

>>15819083

>halo is the best and only game in its genre that I know of

can we please stop baiting and agree it's just a decent game with a few nifty things but not an extreme example?

>>15819090

im serious

I dont know of any other game I would classify the same as halo, with movement the way it is, vehicles that get knocked around and knock things around, ect

I do in fact agree with you on its overall standing as decent instead of amazing, but I maintain that it is in a class of its own

>>15819096

Isn't it just arenafps?

>>15819118

/v/ has always been full of conrtarians who hate new things. What's new?

>>15819112

>arenafps

Oh no, what have you done?

>>15819118

It's no Serious Sam, but it's still good. A lot of the shit it got was for the multiplayer base (ex: your pic) rather than actual merit of the game.

>>15819096

I believe they call those "fpses"

>>15819112

"arena" only really describes the multiplayer part of a game. It's just your conventional FPS with a campaign and multiplayer modes. Tribes had vehicles in 1998, doesn't mean we need to invent a new genre label

>>15819118

Honestly, I'm highly suspecting that none of the fags shitting in this thread have even played the game, which is why they keep rehashing 15 year old memes, but the internet sperging over Halo was legendary, regardless of the game itself. It was a hit for a new console that no one had seen before, and like Goldeneye it introduced a ton of consolefags to a decent FPS experience. Combine that with asspained Sonyggers that didn't know what the game was like and therefore were jealous and you have a recipe for some top tier schoolyard autism. There were several Penny Arcade comics made about it (or that referenced it in some way). That thread is more a parody of the retards that played Halo first rather than the game itself. As another example, Doom isn't retroactively bad just because a bunch of manchildren in their 40s write articles about how they were totally scared of flying tomatoes that made fart noises. Halo did, unfortunately, usher in the death of good FPS gamemodes like CTF because of the complete retards that tended to play it online, despite the warthog making the CTF experience in that game quite fun.

>>15819161

>Doom isn't retroactively bad just because a bunch of manchildren in their 40s write articles about how they were totally scared of flying tomatoes that made fart noises

Anon, what in the good fuck are you talking about?

>>15819162

Cacodemons.

>>15819124

>>15819128

>>15819080

>>15819077

I can't wait until 2030 rolls around and we see this exact topic come around again, but people are talking about Fortnite and PUBG instead of Halo.

what's funny is that he's a jew

probably the best jew in the industry

>>15818868

Why is this a thread?

Remember that fucking graduation picture?

He just wants attention and you gave it to him.

I bet you bought Daikatana on launch day.

>>15819173

That really depends. People's attention spans have already become quite short. Hardly anyone even talks about Overmeme anymore.

>>15819077

Also FEAR has a 3 weapon limit, you would know if you actually played any other FPS aside from halo yet still proclaiming it as the best FPS ever. The entire fanbase is comprised of shitsucking retards who fell hard for microsofts marketing when they were 12. Bungie has always sucked dick, they've been failing miserably since leaving microsoft because they no longer have the power of their marketing team. Nothing makes me happier than seeing modern Halo get pozzed hard and the fanboy butthurt that ensued.

>>15819173

>This bullshit again

Funny, nobody is going around saying that CoD4 was a good game, or CoD3 which was even worse, or Daikatana or…

Could it be that those games are objectively shit because they are tremendous wastes of time?

Here's a protip frim a guy who knows a few children: Kids don't actually play Fortnite, they watch faggots stream it. Those games are only popular for streaming and Chinese bugmen playing them.

>>15819124

Cute attempt ad downplaying it, but you're still not fooling anyone.

>>15819128

Halo as actual zero merit, the TECHNOLOGY (if you can call it that) that it did, like showing the number of projectiles on the gun, were surely impressive, for a 9 year old kid, that is. It has to be said that loving halo today is very easy, seeing the trash that is being put out by soulless developers today, and comparing it to the care and love Bungie put to craft the trilogy just makes you appreciate the game out of principle, but there will never be actual merit if not for the OST being the true pillar of this series affection. The lore was nice and the story your standard xeno-conflict with more ancient evil ayy's on top, cheesy at times.

>>15819183

>Funny, nobody is going around saying that CoD4 was a good game, or CoD3 which was even worse, or Daikatana or…

You stay away from the normalfag part on the internet, I see. And there's a big difference with Daikatana, people didn't like that game even when it came out.

>>15819188

tl:dr it was exciting at the time, negatively nostalgic today but forever subpar for anyone with half a brain

>>15819183

>Funny, nobody is going around saying that CoD4 was a good game, or CoD3

I'm honestly wondering if you're baiting with this.

>Kids don't actually play Fortnite

Fuck me, I've been baited this whole time. I feel like a dumbass now.

>>15819195

They don't, though. I have never met a kid in real life who actually plays Fortnite instead of watching it on streams. Sorry that you believe marketing memes and not real life experiences.

>>15819206

Three of my little cousins and two of my nephews play Fortnite.

I know this for a fact, whenever I stay at my sister's house there's a 50% chance at least one of her two sons playing it.

>Sorry that you believe marketing memes and not real life experiences.

Anon, don't be a condescending fucking asshole who assumes their experiences are the be-all-end-all.

>>15819200

Shut your wore mouth, faggot, the driving was absolute trash and either a retard or a 9 year old could find it exciting. Again, the IA was good, for the time, that is. I've already said that Bungie put love and care to craft the trilogy, things that just don't happen today, search engine "reading comprehension" and reread my previous post before spouting shit again, nigger.

>>15819219

Can you blame me when nearly everything on the internet is lies? What am I supposed to believe other than what I know happened in real life? I'll take your words to consideration, but it's difficult for me to imagine that children have the attention span to play a game like Fortnite, where you spend most of the game running around picking up items that are only used in the other miniscule part of the game. But then again, I guess those kids didn't grow up playing good games.

>>15819234

I'd say it's bizarre to believe what you read online, but to each their own I suppose.

>>15818925

the only problem with halo is that heroic is a relatively fun cakewalk and legendary is sadisticly difficult.

it needed something in between. in heroic you were able to pull off heroics, but those heroics that made the game fun became completely unviable in legendary. legendary was ok because it forced you to conserve ammo and use alot of strategy, however many parts of the game were clearly not planned out for this and it was constantly leaving you forced to use the plasma pistol for long stretches of time.

this made exploration and platforming often worth it if you were able to find a "secret" stockpile of ammo/weapons like in classic FPSs, but there was not enough of it.

>>15819206

i've seen kids randomly do the fortnite dance in the street and some young adult dab after he successfully threw something in the bin.

>>15819232

>AI was good, for the time

For all time. FPS studios have gotten lazier. Halo should have informed everyone that they need to up their AI game, but they haven't. And that's sad. It's a testament to how shit the industry has become that Halo and even Half-Life 1 have more complex AI than most modern games.

>the driving was trash

Again, what is this standard you're comparing to? Drifting the warthog is easily the best part of the entire game.

God of War was mediocre at best, only standing out because it had polish behind it's gore and animation.

>Combat is made to be as flashy as possible with every attack being some massive AoE attack which also stunlocks most enemies

>bosses were mostly just nothing but loads of flash and QTEs

>time wasters like hold R1 to open chest/tap O to open door/Balance on planks with left analog analog, they were boring, they added nothing to the game but breaking the pace every now and then which wasn't needed because they had good looking backgrounds and okay puzzles

<the babes

<while it is mostly flash and polish, I can't deny it was great flash and polish for its time, and there definitely was effort put into it even if it's geared more towards the casual player. The trials of olympus, unlockable skins with different gameplay effects(or am I remembering this part wrong?), those clay pots which gave you unlimited mana/health/rage/whatever making for a really replayable series

<As much as it felt that the game wasn't even designed for it, the unlockable new game+ difficulties were extremely satisfying to master and beat.

>>15819251

>FPS studios have gotten lazier

It's not laziness, it's lack of passion and abundance of greed, I see slave developers, designers, working their ass off to shit out merchandise instead of a well done project with the main idea being creating a playable dream instead of pleasing (((economic speculators))) and the (((market))).

Just read this shit, fuck. People are backstabbing each other for a raise, what kind of good game can come out from this maliciousness?

https://archive.fo/EM3Is

>>15819251

That is really a matter of tastes, but the "drifting" part and the warthog weight feeling like foam at zero G was horrible for me, really never enjoyed it.

>easily the best part of the entire game

Isn't that kinda bad for a FPS? The non-shooting part being the best part, I mean.

There's nothing wrong with the new GoW though, there wasn't a single faggot or nonwhite in that game. On top of that, it was about a father teaching his biological son how to make hard decisions and become a man people can rely upon.

Where was the poz in Dad of Boy?

god of war sucks and jaffe has never made a good game, never got why you idiots love twisted metal so much

>>15819314

>Where was the poz

All the blood was orange because everyone had HIV

>>15819080

>halofag is also a jew

Who would have guessed.

>>15819323

Twisted Metal was alright for the time.

The ending cinematics were top tier.

>>15819338

How about you attack my argument instead of me as a person?

>>15819340

i didnt attack you, i asked you a question. do you feel personally attacked because i asked you how much talmudvision you watch?

because that would answer my question…

>>15819340

They transformed an edgy retard with no morals that killed people and fucked bitches to a boring dad.

I didn't fucking like the original games and even I think that's a disservice to the character and to the IP.

>>15819351

That's fine, but where is the poz?

>>15819353

All over his face

>>15819353

Inside your butthole

>>15818892

halo is good u fuck

cod was decent

>>15819353

>go from a womanizing warrior fucking and killing literal gods to raising another man's kid

>where's the moral shift in this?

Is this one of those pretending to be retarded things

>>15818892

>and act like games such as CoD and Halo were the best things ever.

Even though I agree with you about GoW being shit or at least mediocre, the first few CoDs were alright for their times, specially since they were on par with stuff like Medal of Honor. Also, Halo, even though was ground zero for jelly vision, it isn't quite jellyvision and the gunplay was nice for it's time and even today it looks amazing.

They are not good games but they are not bad either.

"Bros before hoes" -Jaffe

>>15818925

I mean, you are right but there is no reason for anons to look back at them and think that they weren't that bad in retrospect. I'm not saying that Halo is definitely like that but that "we hated something in the past" is not really an argument. We used to love Undertale in the past I know, a recent example but still but I don't see the arguments of people who hate it as any less valid that the other side.

t. someone who has never fucking played Halo.

>>15818926

Not really important as long as he changed his mind. You can be wrong about something and realize that later. Better late than never.

>>15819550

Are you trying to shame people for posting now?

Sounds like a new plan for bringing down activity on the more popular boards.

Really, what motivation would you have to do something like that "anon"?

>>15818873

>Too bad he can't make a good game

Nigger, He made the first god of war,which was a good game with an actual greek tragedy for a story.

>>15818925

>Halo was a floaty as fuck multiplayer-focus consolized FPS with a two weapon limit and "cinematic" story-driven single-player mode.

You have to explain why those things are inherently bad though. It's at this point that people tend to say something along the lines of "Quake was different", but Halo was not a Quake game, and nor was it trying to be a Quake game.

Kids liking it at the time isn't an argument. Kids like video games, and they also probably liked your favourite game when it was in vogue. Big whoop.

I don't even like Halo but I find these arguments obnoxious.

>>15819714

Explain "poor feedback and dumbed down design", and then explain why those things are wrong.

>>15819699

>,which was a good game with an actual greek tragedy for a story

I can't imagine being this much of a brainlet. Try actually reading a Greek tragedy sometime. God of War is a generic revenge fantasy.

>>15819241

>legendary is sadisticly difficult.

If you mean Halo 2, yes, but Halo: CE is a breeze.

>The absolute state of newfag /v/

>>15819856

I was here ten years ago and fully on board with the "fuck Halo" bandwagon, and then I grew up and realised I was probably being a jackass.

>>15819797

i found halo 2 to not be as difficult on legendary as halo tbh, but both were pretty hard.

>>15819887

i thought the jackals were pretty easy as long as you knew where they were.

>gimped

my loadout was almost always a big boom weapon, and duel wielding everything else. duel needlers were a quick way to dispatch an elite and possibly his surrounding grunts. especialyl if it triggered grenades into a mega cluster bomb.

but plasma pistol + any human weapon = ez elites. even combining the alien rifle with the smg was a good combo because the laser rifle depleted shields and the smg cut through health.

halo2 also gave many opportunities for sneak attacks/melee and sword kills because of the level design.

the only times i used sniper rifles was in long range engagments, and id usually throw some type of AOE down to pick it up, then pick the AOE back up. the battle rifle was almost entirely useless in legendary later levels when compared to the other guns.

overall i liked halo2 on legendary better, but i found it easier because i always had a choice of weapons. meanwhile halo1 i often found myself running around looking for plasma pistols that dead grunts dropped because ammo became so hard to come by.

>>15819926

cuckchanners think this is cuckchan 2.0 and often confuse their time there with their time here.

>>15819924

my bad, i wasn't talking about the weapons being used in the campaign, i was talking how bad they were on multiplayer

>>15819605

>no body in a first person game

Why the fuck is this a thing?

>>15819150

Why hasn't there been a ton of Souls clones other than 2D indievanias?

For all its memery is souls much less popular than quicktime forestwalking?

>>15819948

Lazy developers that know they can get away with it.

>>15819951

is this some kind of Berserk meme

>>15819942

actually, i used to rape people with duel wield weapons. plasma+smg was a super common pickup and it was 1-shot no shield, 2 shot, no health. death was pretty instant at medium range. friends would have to be able to dodge that plasma charge for any hopes in living.

battle rifle replaced the pistol, but was trumped by a single sniper round to the head. duel needlers have that soft lock-on so id be able to hop around and move like a fool and still connect… using 2 let the pink shards build so quick they'd explode within seconds… and the way they traveled, even if i was killed, most of the time they'd still die from the explosion or the individual shards popping.

i felt it was pretty balanced. i cant really name a weapon that was complete shit. the needler was probably the worst but 2 of them was completely viable. the shotgun was trash, but it was the best/easiest way to kill swordfags

>>15820063

Oh, Anon. It's been since 2015 that people came back to this meme.

>>15819312

>Isn't that kinda bad for a FPS? The non-shooting part being the best part, I mean

Meh. Every FPS has shooting. There are only a few that stand out with truly interesting shooting mechanics, and they are usually arena FPSes. If anything, I'm glad Halo isn't entirely a hitscan shitfest like CoD even if the plasma weapons mostly suck in multiplayer. Really my only standards for "Is the shooting interesting" these days are "Does it have only hitscan weapons." FPSes have been expanding in non-shooty ways since QuakeWorld with CTF, and then Tribes shortly after with its vehicles, jetpacks and smorgasbord of objective based modes.

>>15820117

reminder that >>>/4chon/ is a thing in this website and is getting more ids rapidly

>>15820072

And it's been cancer ever since it ever started. I'm sick of not having actual discussion on vidya, only memes masquerading as such.

>>15820085

ok, the magnums were trash, but it was 2 shots to kill someone, even at long range after the plasma charge landed so it was a descent alternative at range.

but youre right, it didnt work well because at range the battlerifle was quicker. and the plasma charges get easy to dodge at a range like that.

but if i was within 10m of you, and that plasma charge lands… even with magnums, 2-3 body hits is a kill.

the needlers in halo2 were muuuuuch better than 1 but you HAD to use 2. 1 was only good for someone that was running away because it would prevent their shield from recharging.

duel needlers was insanely OP. the time from the 1st needle landing to the explosion was like 1 second. this was very effective especially at a distance if it caught them by surprise since the needles seemed to delay in air until they got close. the second the 1st needle lands its too late and the directional damage markers dont tell you where the needles are coming from.

plus they were fun as hell to use

>>15820085

an easy fix to halo 2 would be to just make it so when a duel wield weapon is held in 1 hand, it adds some kind of perk. like maybe the needles travel faster in 1 hand, or the smg is better at long range.. instead the duel wield weapons are just incomplete without the other weapon.

>>15820222

Weren't dual weapons in Halo 2 supposed to be just "higher dps with higher recoil" or something like that?

>>15820230

using 1 was just trash. using 2 was always better. i dont know if they intended on a difference, but they failed since its not really a viable option… using 1 is always the lesser.

>>15820239

Technically certain weapons should also be less accurate while dual wielding.

Oldfag here. I was 19 when Halo first came out, and had already played countless hours of games such as Doom, Quake, DN3D, Blood, NOLF and HL on PC. And I thought Halo was pretty good, even if not nearly as good as the previously mentioned titles.

>>15819161

This. I remember quite well that 90% of the people who shat on Halo back in its day were butthurt Sonyggers and Nintoddlers going "fox and grapes" - the same people who also shat, for example, on the 6th gen Ninja Gaiden when it first came out on the OG Xbox, or in the case of the Sonyggers, shat on RE4 when it first came out for the GC.

PC gamers for the most part didn't really mind it.

>>15820232

>brigade

Filthy newfag

>>15819185

It had good art style and good ai. After Destiny 2 and The Division, I'm loved that enemies flank you instead of being bullet sponges that stay in one place. I can't stand that shit at all.

I played FEAR without the slowmo in Maximum difficulty and it felt like a tactical shooter where you played as a lone wolf. I kept on running out of ammo constantly.

>>15820309

>PC gamers didnt really mind the game that destroyed a genre

Haloniggers and WoW fanboys área one and the dame, delusional faggots with shit taste

>>15820309

>>15819161

Halo is pretty great, but what sucks is that nearly all AAA shooters copied or simplified it's mechanics. The majority of shooters in established franchises dumbed down their mechanics so that they could get the console crowd. (see Red Faction 2, Deus Ex: Invisible War, etc)

>>15820352

Any kind of fanboy is a delusional faggot, including the ones from mine and yours favorite video games.

>>15820309

Halo is fine, missed potential and the repetition is a sour point but people think it lasts way longer than it actually does. Never even played it as a teen, didn't play it until recently in my mid 20s and the whole series deserves praise for its enemy design and behavior, combat that isn't just shoot it until it dies and making good use of a two weapon system.

There's just the pc inferiority complex race that can't get over it. There aren't any shooters out there that managed to have good on vehicle, on foot, or in air combat as halo did. Unless you are gonna mention bf2 or tribes in which case no, halo still did it better than the flaccid guns of bf2 or the paper vehicles of tribes 2 that only serve for quick grabs.

The halo games are well rounded even if they never reach perfect synthesis of mechanics and design.

>>15820364

You are new, no one else uses brigade. Go back to twitter.

>>15819218

> it's just people here that try to fit in too hard saying "i'm based le oldfag and halo was always shit you guys!!!11!"

Or maybe people just don't like it and you're a faggot who can't handle that?

I remember getting bored of the game quickly because my family kept wanted to play it all the fucking time. Same empty ass 4 man deathmatch. Same boring weapons. Same moonjump. Meanwhile, Perfect dark, a n64, has a full suite of features like bots with personalities and dual function weapons. I was 12 when halo was new, and even then I was thoroughly unimpressed.

>>15820400

i can give you that gaylo doesn't have bots and that is a big no no but you know there's a lot of gametypes that you can edit and play with more than 4 people? assault is fun as fuck

>>15819733

Fucking based Jaffe.

>>15819711

>>15819727

While I do think that weapon limits do have a place in shooters they do kill a lot of the depth in combat.

Suddenly having to think about what weapon to use in what situation is simplified to "when to use switch to the one other weapon you have right now".

It also means the death of interesting niche weapons. Got an idea for something that's really situational, but cool nonetheless? Well the player isn't going to want to use that if it's going to take up an entire half of their arsenal.

>>15818868

Fucking clickbait. Let me know when he actually says tits are wonderful and only mentally ill ugly landwhales and cucks bitch about cute and sexy women having them and I'll believe the uncuckening has begun.

>>15818873

>>15818892

They weren't, but the first God of War and even 2 Halos weren't shit games in spite of the shit normalfags were responsible for, though I won't defend what Halo subsequently did to FPS. They were simple, but hardworking "what can we do to make this perilous journey fun" mentality driven forward and held together with a simple, but not braindead plot. Even with these games the biggest concern was actually the gameplay itself and not the story and you can even fucking compare this with the nu-shit. I found the first GoW easily replayable to carve through a gigantic multilayered dungeon in search of power to atone for a warrior's crimes while avenging his wife and child. I non obsessively wanted to fight and fuck up Ares for what he did and seeing all the clever and diverse areas the gods each individually prepared to safeguard a literal god slaying power never fails to satisfy me. It's just the QTEs that fucked over the series. Would have made it something like "start this sequence at high damage risk then input button and stick presses specifically to offensively interact while actually doing it yourself".

>>15818925

>multiplayer-focus

As it should be

>consolized FPS

The only bad part about Halo - they had to slow movement speed because consoles don't let you turn around quickly enough so it'd make strafing into a problem.

>with a two weapon limit

Is a good feature since it forces you to actually switch around weapons according to what you can scavenge off of enemies and/or supply caches.

>and "cinematic" story-driven single-player mode.

It was never cinematic, you're thinking of Shit-Life 2.

>>15819887

I never once found the shotgun to be shit in Halo games. Favorite overall vidya gun hands down, I gravitate towards it every different game every chance I get for one and it's given me hours of enjoyment in Firefight just listening to all those fucking wonderful reload sounds while carefully deciding when to attack supporting my brother.

>>15820085

Wasn't the Needler actually broken in 1 for multiplayer? I vividly remember frag grenades having almost guaranteed killing power and deceptive range. They were just one devastating earth shaking boom. Someone must have complained or Bungie themselves amusingly literally stumbled upon it while casually playing together.

>>15818873

>Not having played Twisted Metal

/v/ is so underage Jesus Christ.

>>15820582

>Is a good feature since it forces you to actually switch around weapons according to what you can scavenge off of enemies and/or supply caches.

shit arguement, you can run out of ammo and be forced to other weapons, also as other anons pointed out there's no more "fun" weapons as basically all weapons have to be viable (imagine just having the bfg and pistol in doom)

>It was never cinematic

yeah it was man, every mission starts off with a pseudo-cutscene and also sprinkle it through the missions, it slows the game down

>>15820381

Yeah, the 2 weapon system was something completely new and I found it strange and off-putting in the beginning, but quickly got used to it and then started understanding why it existed - it added a bit of strategy and at the same time it kept you from hoarding guns and ammo for stronger enemies that we end up never using.

It wasn't a perfect game by any means, and talking about weapons they were really unbalanced, with an overpowered and overaccurate pistol, and an underpowered assault rifle with the accuracy and bullet spread of a sawed-off shotgun (things that were improved a bit in the sequels). But with the weapons system and vehicles, they tried to do things differently, at least.

And the AI was really good like you say, not as good as the marine AI in HL1 but it was the best AI ever seen on consoles.

And like I said, in my experience the pc community only really started shitting on Halo years after its release, mainly because of the blame it takes for casualizing the genre. Which is at least a bit unfair of course, why blame Bungie for other copycat devs imitating Halo's mechanics without a good understanding of it from a game design perspective like >>15820354 pointed out.

>>15820531

>. Sometimes you just want to shoot your friends and Halo helps you scratch that itch with couch multiplayer

Just keep in mind my positive opinion of the game has always been based on the single player campaign alone, and comparing it to the single player campaigns in the other fps I've mentioned. I've always played video games to get away from people, not interact with them either online or offline.

>>15818969

>They popularised them because they were good

Is it wrong opinions day?

>>15820625

>>15820626

I didn't know he helped make Twisted Metal. I never kept up with celebrity devs.

>>15819860

>>15819926

>>15819945

They mean /v/ in general, dumbasses.

>>15820728

tmb has objectively the best gameplay though

>>15819183

>: Kids don't actually play Fortnite

Jesus Christ

>>15819338

He didn't say it was acceptable. He said it had no poz.

>>15819427

He's still killing gods and that's his own biological son, who inherited his rage

>>15820780

Fuck the tower level though, such bullshit.

>>15818892

>Oh no, I'm not accepting this bullshit.

That Shenmue was a QTE infested game?

>>15818903

This.

I'm with you, oldfag.

History is being wiped by the fucking retards that consider halo to be the birth of gaming.

It was a joke of an abomination and the biggest anti-climax of the time.

A disappointment on several levels.

Was supposed to be a PC game, huge open world, go anywhere, coop.

Suddenly xbox exclusive, corridor and totally linear on the rails shit. 2 weapons, and dull gameplay.

2 years later after microsoft lifts the block, it comes to pc with coop stripped out deliberately to appease the microfaggots.

Dustbin.

>>15820840

>>15820804

the artstyle is disliked by many but the game has the most strategic and mechanically complex gameplay of the entire franchise by far, hence why vets who prefer 2's artstyle almost never play it online

>>15820856

forgot proper embed

>>15819956

>>15819981

Maybe because to create a Souls clone, even a mediocre, half-assed one, you must have competent devs who know what they're doing for shit to even be playable.

Meanwhile, any of us can create a forestwalking simulator by flipping assets from Unity or UE4.

It's a real shame there can't be more Souls clones trying different settings like The Surge and Nioh did, 1990s beat'em-up Souls never ever

>TFW Car Combat is dead

Man, you know what's a great RPG? Oblivion.

>>15821037

>showing how much of a newfag you are by admitting you were oblivious to the drama of the late 90's that still exists to this day

furthermore i am worshipping nobody, jaffe is a fucking idiot

>>15821060

FYI that smiling Nigger reaction image is only popular with guys who used to be on /intl/.

>>15821092

>keeping up with

no, just hearing about it once in a twenty year time span for a franchise you supposedly are aware of

>>15821092

>reposting an image I saved from /v/

>saving /intl/ images

>not knowing who /intl/ is

fuck off newfag or /intl/

>>15820354

>what sucks is that nearly all AAA shooters copied or simplified it's mechanics.

It's a tale doomed to repeat itself many times. Every game that achieves unexpected success is scrutinized by moronic suits with microscopes who will never realize that they're standing in a forest while they identify tree bark. They remove piecemeal elements, convinced that this particular thing is what caused the game to be successful, only to make their own game shit with poorly thought out design. Always take a wholistic approach.

>>15821033

Yeah, I definitely believe everything on this board. Do you not understand the concept of shooting the shit? Banter? Idle discussion?

>>15820381

>paper vehicles in Tribes that only served for quick grabs

Only gravbikes in 2 were good for that. Tribes had an economy, if you were wasting vehicles your team would quickly grow to dislike you. Scouts were held on to for as long as possible for nailing flagrunners and APCs were frequently used as gunships. They were fragile but that didn't mean they weren't valuable.

It says a lot about how fucked up our society has become that this thing he's said–which should be inarguable common sense–is worthy of articles being written about it and threads being made to discuss it.

The bad times haven't even begun yet.

>>15818925

Le contrarian face

>>15821540

Obviously the layman will never know the real extent of FBI's control, but this article is from almost 6 years ago: http://archive.is/pyMax

>>15820629

>It wasn't a perfect game by any means

Then again, what Shooter is? Doom has its stinker levels, Doom 2 has its stinker quarter of the game. Duke 3D's level design quality shifts significantly from episode to episode, a consequence of designing games from episodes 2, 3, 1 and way later 4. Quake is a miserably ugly game with enemies that are pretty easy, Marathon has some of the shittiest game play imaginable and Fear desperately lacks enemy variety despite having a decent cast of enemy types most of them go unused.

The genre as a whole has its best games bloated with questionable designs and it's pointless to obsess over it. Just enjoy things for what they are, flaws in all. The reason these games stand out so well is because there's so much entertainment to have with them despite their flaws. Doom for its ridiculously fun while being challenging shooting galleries that have you dodging and weaving between projectiles, Quake for its atmosphere and some of the chunkiest weapons known to man, Fear for its satisfying enemy reactions and highly reactive combat, Halo for its cohesion and dynamic behavior of the enemies. You can't get those experiences elsewhere.

>>15821540

Most TOR nodes are hosted by cia/fbi. Gotta imagine if you bounce between a few of them you're leaving a fresh trail they're happy to document.

Member when we said no e-celeb threads?

Member when we said no leaders?

Member when we actually played video games?

Now we have an Alt-Right of our own.

Amen /v/, continue pushing for the good fight,

Fite da powa

>>15821324

>>15821540

Back when the Snowden leaks happened their own slides said they could deanonymize some Tor users some of the time. They've probably improved since then.

>>15818881

No, that was Dragon's Lair, you dumb nigger.

>edge the game is against censorship

well that just makes sense

>>15822708

Notice how every retard immediately snaps towards Half-Life whenever someone dares attack Halo? That's a pattern I've been noticing over the last year.

>>15818925

Pros: Halo 1 had a good scifi story, impressively wide maps and interesting vehicles. When it came out, the gameplay felt fresh even in things like recharging shields which have since become costumary.

Cons: fisher price weapons, repetitive levels in the second half of the game, fanbase is preteen obese yankee kids.

It's high time you drop the console war mentality and look back to your childhood with equal judgement.

>>15818868

Jaffe is based

https://soundcloud.com/ben-kuchera/jaffe-confrontation

>>15820870

they need to understand the principles of animation and action well enough to make even a mediocre one. I'm not sure most developers or even players know what that is unless they play fighting games or DMC type games well.

>>15823081

They're both shitty nuFPS games liked by sjw types so I don't personally see the problem.

>>15818990

>>15822907

>Muh Dragons Lair

But in Dragon's Lair, that was the main meat of the game. QTEs as we know them today are sprinkled among actual gameplay, and Shenmue was the first to do that.

>>15823081

>>15823299

>>muh doom is the only good fps

kys doombabby

>>15823830

doom 2016 might be the only good "modern" fps

>>15819506

prequels work best if you treat anakin as a dumb hick with big dick (=force).

>>15822950

topkek

>>15823299

>half-life

>literally quake on quake engine

>quake is literally doom in 3d

>nuFPS

you have no idea what you're talking about and are trying way too hard to fit in

>>15821110

http://archive.is/suPIW

>This game was difficult to write about because it so sorely lacked spark, guts, heart, and well, drive. We're not fans of ripping into games, especially ones that started off as well as this franchise. But it must be said that there is little reason to buy Twisted Metal 3 if you own the first or second.

this is just one review, all tm fans were pissed about 3/4 assraping the franchise aside from ones who started with 3/4, usually when they were between 3-13 years old. the fact that you have no knowledge of this shows a lot, you either have lived under a rock since the late 90's or you are lying.

>>15822962

>instakilling opponents = strategy

>ost and cinematics relevant to gameplay

>completely unaware of the depth of skill required to play twisted metal black online

>completely unaware of the strategy, planning, and skill required to beat twisted metal black on hard difficulty

i get it, you don't like the artsyle, visual design of stages, and soundtrack of black, and you prefer everything about twisted metal 2. however, you don't know what the fuck you're on about.

learn little man, watch >>15820860

>>15823940

adding to this, enter tma and literally any and all vets that has been playing for decades will tell you that tmb has infinitely more depth, strategy, and complexity than 2 hence why they still play it online over 2.

>>15823853

Name another modern fps you've played.

>>15824057

skyrim 2

>>15820627

you mean like half life and Half-life 2?

ESPECIALLY HL2, which forces you to stick around the "cutscene" till it's played out..

>>15823029

> The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>>15824117

>yes enviromental kills do count as strategy because the reverse also applies to yourself

twisted metal black has a skyscraper stage and other stages where you can fall off and die, have you ever even played it? furthermore such a minor obstacle is nothing compared to the actual weapons

>twisted metal black online

skill based weapons still apply to tmb sp, as does literally everything in tmbo aside from minor balance changes

>and that would be completely true if it was possible to begin with

newfag, showing how little you actually know about tm yet you talk as if you know anything

www.invidio.us/watch?v=h2qdP2p75EM

Wasn't Jaffe also the asshole who was browbeating DreamcastGay recently over the FTC investigating lootboxes. Confusing schadenfreude directed at a corrupt industry for cries of big daddy government, and then calling the people laughing at EA/Activision entitled crybabies.

>>15824758

>he at least knows that anyone who thinks the jews did 9/11 is just a crazy person.

Back to >>>/Cuckchannel/

>>15818873

>not bayonetta

nice dubs kid

>>15819737

>>>/cuckchan/

I'm not surprised, this iis the guy who yelled that Morgan Webb was hot live at E3.

>>15826373

He's not wrong though. The God of War games are just a run-of-the-mill revenge story, even if it was enjoyable. Greek tragedies are WAY more complex and touch deeper themes about human nature than GoW ever really could.

>>15820552

Is he stupid? The girls simply don't want to put stupid shit on their dresses, or wear stupid superhero themed dresses, this has nothing to do with soggy knee.

>>15826628

>tornigger believe the official story of 9/11

This is contrarian even by /v/ standards

>>15826848

>He's not wrong though.

Never said he was.

>>15823940

So show me where that was archived in the game. I didn't ask for a review. I didn't ask for a tv show, radio show, or newspaper. Show me drama archived in the game. A negative review isn't even drama in and of itself and it isn't in any of the games. Are you trying to be a dumbass or is it uncontrollable? Have I not made it abundantly clear that my only concern was playing the games? Do you even play video games?

>>15818892

That's been happening for a while now. The niggers here have no taste that they defend the shit out a fuck awful series like Halo.

>>15818868

He also defended lootboxes as being "muh artistic expression"

>>15827061

>joos did 9/11

>implying

>>15826628

Fuck off torpedo.

>>15827225

>So show me where that was archived in the game. I didn't ask for a review. I didn't ask for a tv show, radio show, or newspaper. Show me drama archived in the game. A negative review isn't even drama in and of itself and it isn't in any of the games. Are you trying to be a dumbass or is it uncontrollable? Have I not made it abundantly clear that my only concern was playing the games? Do you even play video games?

yet you browse the internet on an imageboard, thus you have no excuse for being ignorant of drama that isn't even related to ecelebs no matter what you claim, dipshit

i know you want to be sanctimonious with "oh but i actually play video games anon, i don't have time for such silly drama online nor do i notice it" but that's bullshit

>>15844193

At least ASSCREED has niggerified greeks for you to fuck. We live in the worst timeline.

>>15844206

>yet you browse the internet on an imageboard,

Twisted Metal was released in 1995, over 20 years ago. 20 years ago isn't today. Now you gonna show me the drama in the game or are you going to waste my time with more poorly written posts?

>>15844235

There's still worst timelines. Like the Berenstein universe.

>>15819699

> with an actual greek tragedy for a story.

*with a pale imitation of a greek tragedy for a story

>>15818868

/ourguy/

>Halo was good

Halo was the shitskins game of choice and was never good

>>15847282

>shitskins

>playing anything other than madden and fightan games, maybe some cod

>>15847320

>>>/tv/

>>15847309

They actually play a lot of kart racing games.

>>15847312

>halo

>niggers

>>15848438

>Post 2017

2016 was already like this

>>15855734

Halos fanbase was filled with spics and nigger from day one.

>>15818868

God of War was never good and the new one was the only mediocre thing to come of this shit franchise.

>>15855746

>Halos fanbase was filled with spics and nigger from day one.

[citation needed]

>>15819041

Old hags never get censored only the lolis

>>15818892

God of war was always a generic hack and slash that people wanted to be Devil May Cry. It's legacy is the Uncharted series and it only pushed more towards that as the series went on.

>>15818903

Halo got very good on the 360. The Xbox ones are a bit lame but no one can call themselves a gamer without respecting what Bungie did in 3-ODST-Reach. If you ever want to see what polish can do for a game you need to play those ones. They're pretty generic but the atmosphere, the level design and the polish that went into those games is astonishing. ODST is the closest we've ever got to a good noir game. It's moody, it's grey and it feels like you've just been gut punched the whole way through. All it's missing is a stiff whiskey and an old hat.

You can shit on Halo for many things but you should understand that Bungie's ability to polish a game was the best in the industry. There's very little in the presentation to complain about and they respected the old FPS traditions and gaming traditions. Halo was hated by many for being popular and I was the same for the Xbox ones. It looks blurry brown and purple all the way through. With the 360 Bungie got the tech to push the universe and they did. If I was writing a 100 best games ever list ODST would be on the list. Fire fight is fun as hell and the campaign is worth it. It pulls off a genre that most games struggle to.

>>15823351

>QTEs as we know them today are sprinkled among actual gameplay

Except they were used in cutscenes only, newfag.

>>15818873

Not entirely wrong, but I'd argue RE4 was ground zero for QTEs substituting for actual gameplay. Coincidentally both GoW and RE4 released in 2005.

>>15818883

>>15819699

>>15820575

God of War fucking eats ass. You only liked it because you couldn't play DMC or Ninja Gaiden.

>>15820626

I am far from under age and I never played Twisted metal. People have different tastes and each country had it's own top games. It's like saying no one ever played Megaman in the UK is underage, no one in the UK gave a shit about the NES.Destruction deby was much bigger here than Twisted metal and filled a similar niche. Driving games and arena battling games are both a rather niche genre. If it's not FPS arena then people didn't have a big interest back then and Racing / sports games have always been their own thing.

You need to stop being underage and learn about different markets. Twisted metal may of been huge in your area but no one knew it existed in another area. Take Silent Hill, it's considered one of the corner stones of a genre. The first game didn't do so hot in Japan or the UK. The entire series is nothing to Japan. The American market soloed the franchise. DMC has a similar story.

Living in a different "meta" doesn't make you underage. Thinking your tiny region is the only region makes you underage.

>>15865078

It's hard to blame any single game for QTEs, it was the direction the industry went. Too many games were already in production for RE4 to influence them all coming around the same time. RE4's influence was like Halos was before it and the industry shifted direction and wanted to do what it did. As you said GOW and RE4 were both 2005 and had it. They were trying to find a way to make boring cut scenes still interact with the player and picked a bad solution.

I would say Bayonetta is the worst offender for QTEs. They happen very rarely and you can go through hours of game without one then suddenly dead and you lost your rank for it. QTE games like Dead rain and Tomb Raider's bullshit have done away with QTEs as a primary focus these days.

>>15865104

>They were trying to find a way to make boring cut scenes still interact with the player and picked a bad solution.

Except they didn't. RE4 and GoW were games that shoved QTE button presses in the middle of actual gampelay, robbing the player of doing any complicated commands so as to achieve a goal or escape a perilous situation. Shenmue kept QTEs confined to otherwise non-interactive cutscenes, mainly as way to keep players on their toes and not set the controller down while the game is on. What RE4 and God of War did was far more cancerous in that they used QTEs as a crutch to conceal developers running out of ideas for actual, player driven mechanics.

>>15865183

Hitting a button to escape an attack has been part of gaming forever. If you want to bitch about that bitch about street fighter making you button mash to break a stun faster.

As much as I hate the difficulty of it, the knife fight is good use of QTEs. It's randomised and requires you to respond immediately to knife attacks. That's the sort of place a QTE can work well. I didn't mind the boulder or the water boss fight using them either.

Die Hard arcade did them pretty well. If you succeeded you got an advantage in battle or you skipped a battle. Mess it up and you have to fight them normally. Once you know that exists you can prepare for it.

>>15865385

Dodging or blocking usually requires directional input in addition to positioning. QTEs are lazy because they reduce it to JUST a single button press.

>>15865385

>Hitting a button to escape an attack has been part of gaming forever.

No nigger, pressing a button as a quick fix to avoid danger is not the same as positioning and knowing when to press the right inputs. The latter requires reflexes and actual skill, the other is just pressing a button when prompted to like a trained monkey.

> If you want to bitch about that bitch about street fighter making you button mash to break a stun faster.

Street Fighter doesn't flash a button on screen to do that. The player still has to know that they are stunned and when to mash directions to get out of it.

>As much as I hate the difficulty of it, the knife fight is good use of QTEs.

That's the exact type of cancer QTEs shouldn't be. The button prompts replace what could have been moments that requires actual reflexes and commands based on player skill.

>>15864993

>Halo got very good on the 360. The Xbox ones are a bit lame

Absolute faggot. Halo CE is untouched by the sequels. I'm convinced it was a fluke, because the series has gotten consistently worse with every single installment.

>>15819924

>overall i liked halo2 on legendary better, but i found it easier because i always had a choice of weapons

>meanwhile halo1 i often found myself running around looking for plasma pistols that dead grunts dropped because ammo became so hard to come by.

I guess there has to be a reason Bungie made Halo 2. Apparently it appeals to some peoples brains. Halo CE makes sense to me, and I had a completely different experience than you in both games. Downright opposite.

>>15819185

>FEAR was incredibly overrated

I could never finish it. It's such a slog with the annoying shit-tier Ring-inspired "horror" interrupting the combat.

>>15866197

back to cuckchan

>>15866315

halo is shit

>>15820564

At any given time in Halo you have access to 4 or 5 (sometimes more) different weapons. Basically, your enemies carry most of your arsenal. This adds another layer to the combat that keeps the player on the move and interacting with the enemy. The idea that 2 weapon limits are inherently inferior is a failure to take into consideration how the mechanics of a game fit together, and what is trying to be achieved with their combination. Personally, I enjoy the rhythm of the combat, and would not change it.

>>15818868

I've been playing games for decades and only now do I realize I've thought David Jaffe and David Cage were the same person the entire time. I owe which ever one isn't a cuck an apology.

>>15819699

God of War is fucking terrible, where is all this love for mediocre 2000's games coming from?

>>15867232

It's coming from children who sucked nigger dick at playing DMC or Ninja Gaiden. The mid-gameplay QTEs made them feel accomplished.

>>15867232

Some of it is bait and some of it comes from teens and young adults who played the games when they were younger and are blinded by nostalgia goggles.

Remember when 90's kids always praised mediocre shit from their childhood like the N64? It's the same thing for 2000's kids.

>>15867279

>N64 had some great games on it.

Yeah, all six of them :^)

Still better than the PS4.

>>15866143

Maybe you should go play some arcade fighting games instead of being a pleb. They very much do show what to flail on the screen.

>The input isn't a direction and A to it's bad.

There is no difference.

>>15866146

I replayed CE last week. It's not as good as you remember. The open areas are all empty, the closed in areas are linear and a shooting gallery. The physics make driving a pain since nothing has weight. There's no weapon variety, you use the assault rifle/pistol/sniper for pretty much the entire game. Only the needler does anything different. There's not much enemy variety as there is in later games.Vultures are a ball ache with their shields in CE1. They're the hardest enemy in the game if you're playing on the original Xbox and not the PC release. The machine halo was designed for.

>>15866337

2 weapon limits also make power weapons have a trade off. You have to lose half your ammo supply for a 4 shot rocket launcher. If you're fighting vehicles you want the later. If you're fighting troops the former is more valuable. The gun you trade made not be around for a few maps.

I enjoy Doom way more than I enjoy Halo but I understand Halo is a fundamentally different game to do. I can appreciate both styles instead of saying I like A so I must shit on B.

>>15819948

I have never seen such shitty replies in all my life. It's impressive how bad /v/ has got.

The reason you don't have a body is because it requires resources to render. It has to be loaded into memory like the maps do, it has to interact with the environment so you don't shove your dick into a stone block when you go to pick up ammo. It's a waste of resources that could be better invested in other places. If you want to get this autistic then bitch you never seen any one pick up ammo or use health kits. the best you get is them wrapping a bandage around a graze after being shot with a rocket launcher.

Games are supposed to be games. They're not ultra realistic autism simulators. If you want to look down and see a micro dick just do it yourself. I would rather have an extra enemy or a few spare polygons to use without chugging the frame rate.

>>15867279

Why do people hate the controller? With that one thing that let you play SNES games, as well as Mortal Kombat ports and other games, you could hold left and right and it was like a SNES controller.

Maybe one game used the left and center, and perhaps as a GoldenEye control scheme.

The classic middle and right grip was essentially a prototype for the wiimote

>>15867837

Because it's badly designed for what it was doing. They designed it so there was no way to use every button on the pad and you always had to make sacrifices. The PS1 pad is from the same era and is the prototype for all pads we use today.

>>15867281

>Still better than the PS4.

Even the PS4 has one game in BB. The xbone has literally nothing.

I see there is a lot of IP hopping in this thread.

If a game has nearly 10 sequels and spin offs milking it to death you can be sure that the original was actually decent

>>15869069

Report and filter as usual.

>>15869160

Well crafted bait.

>>15869160

This is baiting hard.

>>15869160

>The X-Box controller is also obviously influenced by the PS1 controller and thus the SNES controller before that.

HOLY NEW FAG

>>15872253

The Xbox and Dreamcast controllers are both influenced by the PS1 controller because they both gave up on the six face button layout, and Xbox eventually changed the controller to have four shoulder buttons instead of six face buttons.

>>15819080

didn't NPC come from here

>>15876896

no, dumbass.

>>15876896

Originally, it was just a phrase from a screencap. Cuckchan reposted the cap and, being that most of them are too normal to know the term "normalfag," jumped on it like soyjak and boomers and all their other cancerous memes.

>>15876752

>hatur

Get the fuck out.

>>15869160

Keyboards are actually better for fighting games than gamepads.

>>15818928

You have a point you may not have been underage but you definitely had shit taste.

>>15818925

Just the nature of life. They never played the games that made Halo look like a joke and the industry has further casualized since then, so the kids who grew up playing the pleb tier Halo compare it to modern offerings and believe it was actually good.

>>15820728

Well 2 IS better than black. Anything after black was trash.

>>15818928

t. underage

>>15823081

Half-Life is Halo's closest contemporary competitor I guess.

>>15820552

wonder how he'd feel if it also had a girl in a wonder woman theme dress with a guy spreading it to reveal the logo

what he should really be ofended by is that Captain America snuck his way into a DC shot

well said, one can make gameplay enjoyable, but good luck making it memorable and last, and decade later get people still playing it