ef3f02 No.15814052
Well, Bloodstained got Virt as one of their guest composers assuming they actually made good on that particular stretch goal, and he's pretty damn important to WayForward, maybe they just decided to hop on board or something because of him encouraging them or something.
ef3f02 No.15814054
>>15814052
Was* pretty damn important
3e5138 No.15814055
>So why are they doing this? How does WayForward benefit from helping the development of Bloodstained?
They get paid?
55cb1b No.15814061
No idea, but I haven't had high hopes for this in a while, although the Castlevania 3 knockoff they made was pretty good. Also,
>that man jaw in that third fan art picture
ugly as fucking sin
5e4e78 No.15814068
>>15814055
Then why doesn't this kind of shit happen more often? Or is Bloodstained so deep in development hell that they desperately need help from competent people?
55cb1b No.15814098
>>15814068
>Or is Bloodstained so deep in development hell that they desperately need help from competent people?
This was my first thought, you see it all the time on kikestarter
>hi, I'm legendary vidya developer x! I'm a veteran so your money's safe with me!
>oh shit we're running out of cash and the game isn't even close to finished
Recognizable faces add absolutely no more reliability to crowdfunded projects, and it would seem Bloodstained is no exception I'm still going to pirate it if/when it comes out
3e5138 No.15814110
>>15814068
>why doesn't this kind of shit happen more often?
What kind of shit? Calling competent dev when your game falls apart?
Because it means you need to spend money?
Kojimbo did that with MGR, author of DSfix was hired to fix some other game's port, but that's all I can think of.
3e5138 No.15814112
5e4e78 No.15814117
>>15814098
That's pretty funny. You'd think people who worked on huge critically acclaimed games would know how to make a game. Then nobodies who come out of nowhere actually make decent games like the Hat in Time dev.
>>15814112
That happened with Sonic Mania? Or are you just referring to the game not being developed by Sonic Team?
382dc0 No.15814118
Wayforward = sales. Look up the games they've worked on, and you'll find a lot of great stuff. Contra 4, Mummy De-Mastered, Snowboard Kids… Opinions vary on recent Shantae games, though.
3e5138 No.15814128
>>15814117
>Or are you just referring to the game not being developed by Sonic Team?
This.
7041a9 No.15814130
>>15814118
>Opinions vary on recent Shantae games, though.
>vary
it was shit compared to the previous games.
f75102 No.15814133
>>15814068
It happens all the time. Plenty of games are credited to numerous studios and teams. Wayforward is a mediocre studio but at the very least they're competent enough to ship working products even if they are all ultimately middling.
4a407b No.15814145
>>15814040
They're massive retro fans. They like making games for old school IPs like DuckTales and Double Dragon. They probably just wanted the chance to work with someone they highly respected. Koji Igarashi did help in the creation of a lot classic entries in the Castlevania series after all. Such as SotN for starters. Shit doesn't always work out for these spiritual successor IPs (see the Mighty No. 9 & Yooka-Laylee shitshows), so maybe they're helping out to make sure Bloodstained is actually Good.
I sincerely don't think they have a sinister ulterior motive, OP. If it was Ubisoft or EA that volunteered to help out, that's a definite red flag for trouble. But if it's WayForward helping out, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they earnestly just want to see Igarashi's title succeed.
d25567 No.15814149
>>15814068
Project Phoenix basically died because the people they hired to develop the game ended up going off and doing something else. Also the developer may have stolen funds but that's being hashed out in court. Kickstarter doesn't do a great job of holding onto talent.
c30a2b No.15814151
I can help but think they made that woman monster look like a penis with teeth with the breast acting as the testicles intentionally. The nes castlevania bloodstain game they released was fine.
Kickstarter and stuff like them always have such problems for video games. Money dries up quickly or they mismanage the funds since they get it all at once. I would prefer video games moved to doing it in milestones reached. Reach a certain level of completion in game and then you can ask for mor funding once you've proven that the concept, progress is going at a good rate.
28f32b No.15814224
Didn’t they already cuck out and shrink a characters bust?
df92eb No.15814243
>>15814224
No, they were asked by faggots to do so.
28f32b No.15814246
>>15814243
Here’s to hoping they don’t
c48646 No.15814247
>>15814040
>How does WayForward benefit from helping the development of Bloodstained?
Money. Doing grunt work for other devs and doing licensed games is how Wayforward pays for most of their own projects
3ee36c No.15814258
>>15814040
Trying to stave off the complete implosion of the crowd funding model for video games? The system can only take so many more Mighty #9's and Star Citizens before the balloon bursts and Way forward is up a shit creek for funding pet project games again.
5e4e78 No.15814279
000000 No.15814280
>>15814040
It was announced in 2015-2016, to be released in 2017. It is still in development. The teams of developers are changing again.
It will be shit.
A delayed game will eventually be shit.
28f32b No.15814291
>>15814279
I was going to say, I remember anons talking about it. I think they also shrunk the main characters bust as well. Question is, is that IGA giving into the Kickstarter comments of people pretending to be fans of his old games, or 505 Games telling them how problematic their vision is?
df92eb No.15814318
>>15814246
>>15814291
They didn't change the breasts of the main character.
4a407b No.15814337
>>15814264
You can't compare the two. The unfinished top 3D model looks like it's just in the blockout phase. The bottom model looks like it just finished going through the pipeline.
It would be rich though if Shantae's creators did start censoring tit sizes. Their main series was built around girls with sex appeal.
91de72 No.15814355
>>15814040
>How does WayFoward benefit from helping the development of Bloodstained
They're getting paid for it obviously, you double nigger
0677f8 No.15814368
>>15814068
>Or is Bloodstained so deep in development hell that they desperately need help from competent people?
You could ask similar of Square-Enix and nuFFVII, considering how they've brought other companies on and off the project.
>>15814337
>Nintendo DS
There was a Shantae on that? Guessing it was DSi and digital distribution only if so.
d9973d No.15814373
>>15814368
indeed it was, American only at that
5e4e78 No.15814374
>>15814355
But it's not a good idea to be involved with a game that's probably going to be shit, you double nigger
f456ba No.15814375
>>15814133
You call it mediocre. I call it the only good Western dev in existence. All the rest are shit.
29d18f No.15814952
>>15814383
Friendly reminder that more good games have come out of kikestarter in the past 5 years than from the actual games industry
61bfb8 No.15814960
>>15814133
>implying Alien: Infestation and Mummy DeMastered weren't damn good
a161cc No.15814963
>>15814952
Moldy bread is better than literal shit but its still not good.
29d18f No.15814965
1b249f No.15814983
>>15814368
Risky's Revenge on the DSiWare.
ba3b8e No.15815008
>>15814952
>Friendly reminder that more good games have come out of kikestarter in the past 5 years than from the actual games industry
Gonna call bullshit on that one
80b0f6 No.15815023
>>15814952
>more good games have come out of kikestarter in the past 5 years than from the actual games industry
Confess, how many projects scams have you backed so we can all laugh at console you on your losses
29d18f No.15815030
>>15815008
You don't even have to look hard to find relative quality, I would easily trade all of the AAA games from this generation just for the two and a half shadowrun games
>>15815023
>Paying money for things
What are you, gay?
ba3b8e No.15815107
>>15815030
You didnt specify what kind of vidya industry, hence why I called you out. The sole titles I recall coming from Kickstarter are
>La-Mulana 2
>Darkest Dungeon
>Kingdom Come
>Lisa
>Risk of Rain
>Shovel Knight
>Divinity: Original Sin
>Hollow Knight
>some action rpg with a inquisitor-looking dude (forgot the name)
>Shantae Half-Genie Hero that one was pretty meh
I'm not saying there werent a few good games released through crowdfunding, but there are a few and between, and that's really a desolate state of the western vidya industry. I've been playing more jap shit in those past 5 years due to this
3ee36c No.15815116
>>15815107
>Everspace
>Hat in Time
ba3b8e No.15815130
>>15815116
I'd definitely replace Shantae from the list with A Hat in Time instead, even if I havent tested that one yet. I know jackshit about space games though so pardon me on that one if this is an actual good title.
f75102 No.15815145
>>15814375
They're basically a less consistent and slower travelers tales
c5ad4d No.15815223
>>15814130
Games plural, anon. The anon was saying that the more recent Shantae games have varied opinions associated with them. I.e., Half-Genie Hero is mediocre, Pirate's Curse is quite good.
>>15814098
Yeah, it turns out that devs who made good games didn't handle the budgeting for those games.
2f53c3 No.15815257
>>15815223
> devs who made good games didn't handle the budgeting
That is of course assuming they really were the ones making the games good and he wasn't just a leech like inafune.
30a6fd No.15815267
>$5.5 million kickstarter
>made off the popularity of Iga
>only produces an Inti Creates game and a Wayforward game
How many times have we "learned" that these sorts of people don't know shit about making games? Does the pride of being "producer" in a billion games really get to their heads that much?
8846e4 No.15815270
>>15814133
>even if they are all ultimately middling.
Pirate's Curse was really good. Mighty Switch Force was good, they just stretched the gimmick a bit further than what the mechanics justified. Haven't tried Mummy De-Mastered, but I hear it's above average.
Wayforward has the talent they need to make really good games, they just work on a bunch of mediocre shit to keep the lights on, and sometimes that mediocrity spills over into their own projects. HGH could have been a great game if they had just taken the Kickstarter money and then pared back their design focus to fit the budget. Instead the whole thing is a incoherent frankenstein mess of stretch goals and outside influence to appease backers with only the first two ~ three levels being really fleshed out since those were the ones used to advertise for more donations.
Jammies mode is pretty cute though.
8846e4 No.15815286
>>15814337
>Their main series was built around girls with sex appeal.
Wasn't Erin Bozon one the main creative leads up through Pirate's Curse, and had a hand in making all the girls sexy fun characters? And wasn't it also her idea to give them all loads of suggestive poses in order to make the most use out of the 3DS's 3D effect?
c32544 No.15820223
The only thing I care about this is hoping we get fan art of Miriam and Shantae making out and grabbing each other's butts?
87265d No.15820652
>>15814040
It doesn't hurt them, they get some good PR out of it, get to offload some of their spare art, and help a game that they like.
Maybe Bloodstained won't be a complete trainwreck afterall. I'll keep my eye on it now that they have outside help from competent devs really i just like Wayforward
5612f5 No.15821068
>>15814118
Wait, what? Wayforward was responsible for Snowboard Kids?
cad375 No.15821089
>>15814347
you're a fucking faggot
f9424b No.15821111
>>15814337
DS Shantae best Shantae
ec5574 No.15821744
>>15814264
top was 2 big anyway
df5ec2 No.15821781
>>15814337
GBC Shantae is best Shantae by far.
df5ec2 No.15821791
>>15821068
Just checked Wikipedia, they are not. Racjin / Racdym developed that series.