/v/ - Video Games

>>15801879

Bloodborne.

Super Mario

I'd include Silent Hill 2. You would have to be a fool not to. Metal Gear Solid 2 or 3 (or both) are also obvious. This is assuming that Sony is willing to dole out the yenny pennies (read: they aren't) to get games that they didn't have a hand in making directly on the thing.

>>15801907

Kusony would remove her from the game to bring it up to current standards.

>>15801879

Honestly if I were one of the higher ups I'd go for a hardware replica and limited reprints of classics. Barring that, and you know the bosses on top wouldn't okay that, I'd go for a wide range of classic games with some obscure ones that became cult classics. Then I'd also make the on board memory yuge and have an online storefront for customers to purchase games cheap.

just xenosaga and kingdom hearts, marketed using the original advertisements

or ace combat, whichever

I choose a bunch of easily licensed first-party games to keep costs down, and make sure that it's extremely widespread in its distribution and is wide open to make it more appealing/easy to hack a la the NES/SNES classics. I know tons of people who only bought one or both of those in order to load them with their favorite games and play with an accurate controller and think that'd be the easiest, most consumer friendly way to make a shitload of money

Tekken 5

Ace Combat 5

Ridge Rcaer 5

Soul Calibur 3

Katamari Damacy

Dragon Quest 8

Tidus Fantasy 10

Kingdom Hearts

Gradius 5

Silent Hill 2

Metal Gear Solid 3

Devil May Cry 3

Resident Evil 4

Persona 3

Disgaea

Virtua Fighter 4 Evo

Gran Turismo 4

Okami

God of War 2

Shadow of the Colossus

Grand Theft Auto San Andreas

Jak and Daxter

Ratchet and Clank

Damn there are just too many games idk

>>15802054

Oh shit I forgot about SSX and Burnout series

Fahrenheit

Red Dead Revolver

one of the GTAs

one of the FIFA soccer

BLACK (best shooter on the PS2, the only fault is the inability to skip the cut sceens)

off the top of my head

mgs2, mgs3, katamari 1 + 2, red faction, harvest moon 1 + 2, ratchet and clank 1 2 3, war of monsters, doa2, time splitters 1 2, sly cooper, dark cloud 1 2, gta 3 vc sa, god hand, getaway, onimusha, dmc….. probably forgetting some.

but id never buy it because i own these games and a launch ps2 that still works fine.

.hack//Infection

.hack//Mutation

.hack//Outbreak

.hack//Quarantine

Metal Gear Solid 2

Evil Dead

>>15802157

PS2 Shinobi was just god awful.

>>15801879

>Re-release the system in the shape of the PS2 fat, but with a top loading DVD drive (not the top loader on the slim, those suck and the disc bay isn't deep enough)

>Hard drive slot returns to support loading games off a hard drive and for games that took advantage of the hard drive (King of Colosseum for example)

>All PS2 games work on it.

>Region free

>Burned games work

>Old dual shock 2 controllers work on it along with your old peripherals.

>Yes, PS1 games are still backwards compatible and enhanced

>Other anti-piracy measures disabled, even on PS1 games

>Old memory cards work.

>New bios, system automatically enables HD mode without holding Triangle + X or whatever the key combination was, software switches in the BIOS to manually disable anti-piracy if games won't run due to anti-piracy stuff.

>SD card slot to save games to an SD card. Can transfer save file to memory card and vice versa.

>Hard drive can do the same.

>>15801879

You need pretty decent hardware to properly emulate ps2 games. The ps3 can do it with only about half of the games as far as I know. And the ps3 actually has more CPU power than the stock ps4. I don't think it's viable for them to make one any time soon.

>>15802175

No it wasn't, you niggerfaggot.

>>15802208

You're killing the dream anon.

Simpson's Hit and Run

>>15802208

I guess I'm just a brainlet, but I don't get why it's so hard to make a new thing that plays old games.

>>15802208

It's just a hypothetical scenario.

>You need pretty decent hardware to properly emulate ps2 games. The ps3 can do it with only about half of the games as far as I know

Depends on the model. The first models had PS2s GPU & CPU built in. That's the reason they were so expensive at first. The second model emulated the CPU, but kept the GPU and the "newest" models don't play PS2 games at all.

>>15801879

Fuck off with your market research.

>>15801879

A monolithic pile of shovelware.

How would there be a PS2 classic without a relatively huge amount of storage space that would jack the price to the moon? Keep in mind the games ranged anywhere from 700MB to 8GB per disc.

Considering there's fuck all PS2 emulation for ARM chipsets, they would either have to basically build a small PC, or actually make an emulator themselves.

>>15802924

There actually is a PS2 emulator on ARM called Play!, and performance is surprisingly good, with its main weakness simply being game compatibility. So that show's it's certainly possible.

>>15802990

>performance is surprisingly good

I heard it was absolute ass. Didn't PCSX2 almost sue them because muh gee pee ell?

It'll be another generic ARM box that will run on a forked version of PCSX2

The list of games for it will be the only 10 or so games that qualify as playable on the emulator and performance will be trash.

FFXI :^)

>>15803857

>someone in this shithole actually remembers skygunner

You are a good person.

>>15803865

>>someone in this shithole actually remembers skygunner

Of course, on a system with nearly 4,000 games SkyGunner is easily in the top 10.

>>15801879

Snake Eater.

Issue is that the PS2's library is fuckhueg, even just looking at actually worthwhile titles. Personally I'd like it to include some of the lesser known stuff, but we all know it would be sampler pack-tier, with very limited slots compared to the sheer amount of stuff that could be on there, and the bulk of what would make it on there would be either super popular mainstream games and/or games Sony doesn't have to pay extra to license due to owning themselves (admittedly not all of which would be bad choices). Fuck, one series I know of where the devs would love to see them rereleased, be it digitally or as a compilation, the publisher gives zero fucks about other than continuing to sit on it doing jackshit (and as the system owner, modern sony probably wouldn't allow it anyhow). Regardless, like the PS1 Classic, it would be missing a lot of "must plays" regardless of whether they went the mainstream or "this actually deserves a second chance in the sun" route. I think the only people particularly satisfied would be newfags to the system, who aren't all that aware of key games being missing.

>>15802151

>Four slots out of however many dedicated to a single series game.

>>15803857

Shame Atlus only ever seems to clear games that are developed in company for reprint, but I suppose that's a lot easier than trying to negotiate with the original rights owners again, some of whom might not be around anymore. Annoys me that Skygunner jumped from $30 to $50 recently as well, but there's always HDD loading and such.

>dual layer dvd games are very uncommon. Only one I can think of off the top of my head is Yakuza 2.

It's only a handful in the grand breadth of the library, but they do include a number of good games. I'll see if I can find the list.

>>15802913

PS2 had three media formats: CD-R, DVD-5, and DVD-9. Most games are either at or beneath the four point whatever cut off DVD-5 is. But that can still wind up being a lot of space for a single game, times however many they'd want to include for $[X] or can fit into storage of [Y]GB. And a few games on the system still used multiple DVD-5 discs of continuous content (as opposed to demos/bonus features), and I know one game, Sakura Wars 5, used two DVD-9s (instead of cutting the voicing to fit on one disc, it's one language per disc instead).

>>15803875

>>15803857

PS2 DVD-9 List is here. For whatever reason (((wikipedia))) purged the page on it, which this was ripped from.

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_DVD-9_games.html

>>15803875

>but I suppose that's a lot easier than trying to negotiate with the original rights owners again,

According to Atlus Sony owns the rights to Skygunner. In the past they've made statements saying if you want a re-release or a sequel to ask Sony. I really think it's a massive disservice to have all these game libraries and do nothing with them. Everyone is guilty of it. Just a bit of presentation, a bit of colorful advertising and you can easily drum up a lot of excitement for a classics section anywhere. People love it.

>>15803875

I can see Sony putting 10 games on it and calling it a day. Personally I would think 40 games would be big, but perfect for a thing like this and you can pick maybe 15 games everyone already knows then focus on some more obscure goodies.

GTA 3

>>15803878

Not the first time, nor the last time, sony didn't deem their own games worth publishing themselves (a fee of which Atlus picked up instead, like Skygunner, Tsugunai, and Demon's Souls). And at this point, I don't know how I'd feel about fractional money, even from a reprint, going back to sony for an admittedly good game. On the other hand, it would certainly fuck the scalpers, which is always nice to see, so it's a mixed bag if it were to happen.

>>15803880

I've had the thought that with the PS1 classic, part of the amount of games on there had to do with not just how many games can be deemed worth $100, but also how much their PSN versions have been priced at. Some admittedly don't have PSN versions, but the ones that did total up to $90 at standard prices, ranging from $6 to $10 each.

But yes, forty slots would be nice for the PS2 one, space permitting, but sony wouldn't be apt to spring for the memory that could require, and with the existing PSN PS2 Classics prices ranging from $5-21 each (the bulk being between $10-15), barring bundles for $30+, I'd say they'd have one of two problems on their hands, those being either trying to convince third parties to license those games at $2.50 max profit each, or convince potential customers to drop some $400-600 average on it.

>>15801907

>>15801934

>>15802060

While I was double checking the PS store site for prices on the above, I figure it worth noting that Ape Escape 3 has not been digitally rereleased there in the first place. I'd call it fishy but Ape Escape 1 doesn't appear to be up there either, only Ape Escape 2, Move, and On the Loose.

All shovelware so it bombs and Sony dies

>>15802272

Wait, so can these be pulled from PS3 to be used as parts for PS2 repair?

>>15804433

Would probably depend on what the actual make of the PS2 chip is, and what model of PS2 system you'd be looking to put it into. At the same time though, it's not as if there aren't assloads of PS2s in existence already, compared to still working 20/60gb fat PS3s.

>>15801879

hi

>>15801934

>Kusony

Holy fuck you guys actually came up with a Sony pun that isn't unoriginal cringe i.e. Soyny and all derivatives. Using it from now on to describe the current state of the brand.

If they even want a slim chance of it working, they need to make sure of a few things:

>It can play discs

Ideally non region-locked, and can play burned DVDs since one day disc rot will most likely set in.

>They don't cheap out on the IPs

At the very least they need Vice City and/or San Andreas. Of course it'll be as badly butchered as the current Steam version, but that's mainly due to R* not renewing their licenses for the music they originally obtained.

>The hardware is much more efficient

Who doesn't want to play a game that lagged like shit on the original PS2 at 30 or 60 FPS? Richard Burns Rally was practically unplayable. Skip to 3:17 in this video to see how that game performed on the PS2. Same goes for loading times. I don't want more powerful hardware that can put in stuff that wasn't there originally, but I want better FPS and faster loading times.

My ideal list would look something like this:

>BLACK

>Bully

>Burnout 3 & Revenge

>Gran Turismo 4

>Grand Theft Auto: Vice City/San Andreas

>GUN

>James Bond: Nightfire/Everything or Nothing

>MGS2 & 3

>Midnight Club 3

>Need For Speed: Most Wanted

>RE4

>Red Dead Revolver

>The Getaway/Black Monday hahaha even if they do put it on, there's no way the car manufacturers would agree to their presence in what was literally a British GTA again

>>15804623

Forgot to mention Flatout & Enthusia for further racing games as well. The latter was literally better than GT in almost every comparable factor except number of cars.

What fiasco.

>>15801879

> PS2 Classic

> avoiding the fiasco that killed the Playstation Classic

Not gonna happen in a long while, you can't emulate PS2 on a cheapass ARM shitboard, same reason behind no N64 / GC / SS / DC classic consoles (although it's conceivable that Nintendo could come crying back for cheap NGC / Wii CPUs and that SEGA could leverage the fact that both SH-4 and PowerVR GPUs are cheap as fuck and still in production nowadays)

Not to mention that if they did release something and it didn't have at-least some of the following, R&C, Jak, MGS, ZoE 2 and GT, people would shit themselves and those are games that are absurdly hard to emulate due to what they do with the hardware.

>>15803024

>I don't think even sony would use an emulator that shitty.

Considering they hired the guy who made the JIT to make their own on the PS3 (and it's pretty much known that the PS3 emulator uses a non-trivial amount of stuff straight from PCSX2), and that none of their official emulator are really any better than PCSX2 outside of the ones that use real hardware so I frankly doubt that.

>>15804623

>Holy fuck you guys actually came up with a Sony pun that isn't unoriginal cringe

Some anon's been hoping to get it big with the native Japanese base, as it plays to their own lingo. To be fair, it works out pretty nicely.

>>15804623

>Ideally non region-locked, and can play burned DVDs since one day disc rot will most likely set in.

Not even the fat PS3s were region free, aside from PS3 games themselves. Bluray movies/shows, CD, and DVD format media were all still region locked. I'd like to think you can digitally bypass the region lock for pirated games loaded through a CFW PS3, but I haven't tried it myself yet.

>>15804675

I think he means both the absence of quite a few mustplay tier games, and not using dualshock controllers.

> shrek

> shrek 2

> shrek the third

> shrek carnival craze party games

> shrek super party

> shrek super slam

> shrek smash and crash racing

I think it covers all bases and contextualizes the ps2 as to it's historical significance and period.

>>15802151

>>15803875

The .hack// games aren't that big and could easily count as one.

>>15801879

>How many games

50 games

>which games would you include?

Include essentials like the GTA games, FF games and so on.