/v/ - Video Games

>>15792361

This. You'll want to kill yourself, thus relieving you of all pain.

>>15792348

What you're looking for is the "iyashikei" genre. I hope you find happiness.

DCSS has a religion that lets you heal other creatures and there is a chance they become your allies IIRC

>tfw WoW is the only MMO with good healing gameplay

>>15792348

Well, you could try going on a dating website and catfishing someone into thinking that you're their perfect person. It'll make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, at least until they realize you're not authentic.

That, or play something like Earthbound, which is supposed to be a "chicken noodle soup for the soul" kind of experience.

Silent Hill games, Yoko Taro games.

>>15792348

That doesn't seem really like a healing thing

Side note this scene was fucking horrifying, torture is only for subhumans and CIAniggers

>>15792348

VNs aren't really games, though.

>>15792490

We all know that deep down but it's pointless to broach the topic.

The reason JRPGS exist is for this reason I think. Right now it's Final Fantasy games, the magic isn't lost because I've only started playing them recently. It used to be Earthbound/M3 but I've played them too many times.

>>15792348

>Yume Miru Kusuri

My nigga

Most would recommend colourful, comfy-tier vidya, but I would suggest playing some sad games with tragic stories.

Unteralterbach

>>15792373

WoW's healing systems, starting in WotLK, were complete and irredeemable garbage. Just mindless spam healing, with encounters being progressively created around the idea that healers always needed to be healing. The worst example of this degeneration of the healing model was Spine of Deathwing in Cata: random players in the raid would get a debuff that prevented healing on the target and could only removed by healing the target for a set number. The raid was actually taking very little damage for the first three quarters, so as a healer all you had to do was play whack-a-mole with a debuff. It was the single most mindless things I'd ever done in any game.

Tree of Savior had good healing mechanics, of all things. The game had 4 base classes and only the Cleric classes could heal. Actually only the Cleric class and the Priest class could heal. The way Clerics healed was by putting down healing tiles on the ground that other players had to walk on in order to heal themselves (1 tile was about 10% of a player's health). Depending on how many levels of Clerics a player had, they could put down 5, 10, or 15 tiles every 20 seconds. Priests had a small frontal AoE heal that healed 10% of a players's health baseline and could be upgraded to a little over 20%. And that was it. If your party had a rank 1 Cleric, all your entire party had were 5 healing tiles worth half a person's health bar every 20 seconds. So if some asshole at 89% health took 2 health tiles, then whoever was at 10% health was getting screwed hard. Too bad the game had infinite, low cooldown healing potions on invulnerabilities.

>>15792348

Symphonic Rain. Could also try Clannad, Little Busters, and Majikoi. Watch Barakamon.

>>15792348

Unironically play Chrono Trigger for SNES, and do all side quests and get the best ending. It is worth it.

>>15792375

Nah. It is just leftist propaganda.

>>15792537

Ray should just make a daughteru protecting simulator already. Fucking japs can't do anything right these days.

>>15792348

Princess makers

>>15792926

what a giant nigger

>>15792348

Undertale.

Not even joking.

>>15794606

>Steins;Gate won't make you feel better

Disagree; it makes you feel like shit for 50% of it, but that makes the ending all the better.

>>15794655

Steins;Gate is fucking shit aand will just make you wanna break the head of whichever anon recommended that shitpile to you. At least that's my experience with it.

>>15794655

I only say it won't because if you pick Mayuri, Kurisu has to die, and if you pick Kurisu, you leave Mayuri out to dry when I feel like she may very well be the best girl. Kurisu is nice, too, but the bond between Mayuri and Okabe run far deeper than whatever Kurisu has. Maybe that's just my own psychosis. Just hope the anon you recommended it to isn't a Mayurifag.

>>15794693

Mayuri ending is sadder and unfulfilling not only because Kurisu remains dead, but because it represents Okabe giving up and indulging a fantasy he doesn't really believe in. Making peace with the true ending requires making peace with unrequited love in general, and recognizing that it's better to make the right/honest choice than to pretend for someone else's sake. I personally found these themes helpful for shaking off the sort of funk OP seems to be in, plus good life lessons in general.

Only big failing of the game is that it leans pretty heavily on ebin memes and harem cliches.

Unironically - Minecraft. Or Minetest, or whatever floats your boat.

There just is a certain type of comfort when you hear the rain banging down on the wooden house you built with "your own hands", so to speak. Doubly so if you have built a nice fireplace in that home of yours.

>>15794606

>>15794848

This game needs a pc release, controls are unbearable

>>15795499

I thought that first webm was going to be VRchat and everyone sitting in the pews were real people, fuck I was ready for some serious embarrassment

Victoria 2. You can make a better world where Germany pursued coal liquefaction tech earlier and thus wasn't vulnerable to British blockades, thereby winning the Great War and driving the godless American leftists back to their republican hellhole and preserving comfy European monarchies.

any games I enjoy do that, mane

das why i play the game

but it has a flip side. In the end, getting addicted to dopamine won't make your life better.

>>15792680

There needs to be a tag for it.

>>15795949

petting sex comes close enough, only failing for some multi-panel images.

What are some comfy life sims?

Animal crossing comes to mind but it's a bit bland in it's execution.

Slice-of-life VNs, you basically answered it yourself. I'm not giving any names I believe you can do the research yourself, or humbly ask in the VN thread. Just watch out because lots of them have some pretty heavy emotional rollercoasters, but you read YMK so I guess you don't give a shit.

I don't consider VN games, I see the core of vidya as challenge, and challenges are not supposed to heal anything, so I guess you are searching this in the wrong medium

It really depends on whether you can empathically feel good from seeing happy people and not feel more depressed or angry with jealously, lots of miserable people are like the latter and instead feel pleasure from schadenfreude, it's why NTR exists.

>>15796512

Not all depression is created equally, you can hate the world, hate yourself, hate the world for making you hate yourself, or even hate yourself for hating the world. Some people choose goal terminating worldviews to compensate where everything must be shit and corrupt to justify their fervent belief in their own inability to grasp it. Foxes and grapes, so you get sour grape fanfiction.

>>15794587

>The eternal impotent leftist.

Earthbound is leftist propaganda, and thus, shit.

i like touhou games for this. even if im kind of lousy and have only 1ccd a few of the games on normal. ill do my best but i dont really get very attached to the outcome of the playthrough and to me its more like "an episode of that loli show".

even though it can be on the more difficult side of things its just so damn light hearted and the music really helps with this and i definitely gravitate towards the games with what i deem as better soundtracks. listen to this shit. perhaps the combination of requiring my attention, pleasant visuals and the lovely music all contribute towards being a sort of mental vacation.

>>15796764

youre the fattest smelliest most broke ass bad with money nigger to ever walk this earth you have been in jail for such a large portion of your life that you forgot how to climb trees so you stopped eating bananas and thats why you eat watermelons theyre always on the ground and covered in dirt and thats why you have bad taste you eat dirt all the time because you cant figure out how a water faucet works and the river is too far for your lazy ass to walk to and you wouldnt want to accidentally take a bath anyways so you just sit there with your bad taste and your fleas

Go dating, OP.

>>15796995

You'll only find sluts through dating apps and services.

Go outside you fucking loser OP. Start working out, start worrying about your future more than being lonely and chances are you'll find a girl. Faggot.

>>15792698

>healing

Maybe if ending it all is considered healing.

>>15792348

>Stuff that help you to feel good/less lonely or a connection?

not that I know of but killing thousands of people in a video game might help you forget for awhile.

>>15796995

>go put yourself in a situation where you'll be constantly ignored so you become 200% self-conscious about every little thing you say\do\are

>go be surrounded by tons of people dating so you feel like you stand out and end up feeling more miserable

>go on a date with a roastie that's only interested in what you can give to her

Women really should shut the fuck up when giving addvice to men.

Dating to you is just smiling towards someone and enjoying everything he throws at you afterwards for as long as you want.

Shit's not so easy for a guy below 8/10, everyone you ever knew that's been nice to you were either family or they wanted to have sex with you and that's the reality you live in, whether you acknowledge it or not.

>>15797229

>go put yourself in a situation where you'll be constantly ignored so you become 200% self-conscious about every little thing you say\do\are

Stop being completely self-centered and pay attention to others instead of thinking what you'll do or say next in response. If you have nothing to say about anything, you should probably think about things other than yourself for a while to gain insight.

>go be surrounded by tons of people dating so you feel like you stand out and end up feeling more miserable

If you are introverted, then find someone compatible and go to locations that are less populated.

>go on a date with a roastie that's only interested in what you can give to her

Oh my god, women actually have practical desires and aren't perfectly selfless? Life isn't a romance manga, a relationship is about mutual exchange. There is a middle ground between doormat wallet and first sight devotion.

>Shit's not so easy for a guy below 8/10

Get over your victim mentality, nothing less attractive in a man, and make the best of what you have. If you failed the genetic lottery you should take one for your ancestors who struggled and clawed through painful life and death situations and be looking for someone to improve your line, even if it is by a minuscule amount.

>>15797287

>Stop being completely self-centered and pay attention to others instead of thinking what you'll do or say next in response. If you have nothing to say about anything, you should probably think about things other than yourself for a while to gain insight.

He's not being self centered. He's pointing out that the person giving shit advice is being so self centered that they cannot empathize with someone who doesn't have a pussy pass and doesn't get automatic affection from the majority of society.

>If you are introverted, then find someone compatible and go to locations that are less populated.

>find someone compatible

That's the trick, isn't it? Especially because introverted women also have their pick of the litter, and everything else about the pussy pass still applies to them.

>Oh my god, women actually have practical desires and aren't perfectly selfless? Life isn't a romance manga, a relationship is about mutual exchange. There is a middle ground between doormat wallet and first sight devotion.

>a relationship is about mutual exchange

The thing is, men don't get anything in the exchange. All they even ask is for acceptance and affection, which of course they are also wanting to give. But that's not enough for women. They get insulted by it if the guy doesn't also have other stuff to give them.

>Get over your victim mentality, nothing less attractive in a man, and make the best of what you have.

>man up and be a cuck bitch! Actually acknowledging the truth means you're not a man!

>>15795499

Fuck I remember watching the stream. That was a real history moment.

>>15797287

I've always said that taking dating advice from women is a waste of time because their dating advice basically boils down to "take a shower, put some non-trashy clothes on and go to a bar and you'll have people lining up to go on a date with you!". The overwhelming majority of women lack the mental capacity to understand/empathize with what the dating scene is like for men. For a man to even be considered dating material, he'll need to spend a lot more time and effort than a woman ever will. And when I say "a lot" I mean "several orders of magnitude more". And that's still an understatement. A slightly chubby guy with an uninteresting job will, at best, get pity sex once in a blue moon. And even if the guy is great, works out, has a nice face/body, has a good stable job, an interesting personality, and is funny/good at communicating, he'll still have to deal with 1) approaching women and 2) being constantly rejected. And the more 2 happens, the harder 1 becomes. Pussy pass isn't some myth, it's an established fact of life. Women like you who try to deny it are just oblivious to the fact that they're playing on easy mode.

>>15794675

You need to explain why though, "it's shit" and "I didn't like it" don't mean much without context.

In any case, I don't think Steins;Gate can be considered "healing" or heart warming or comfortable. Sure there's romance, friendship, happiness, good endings, and all that. But the core of S;G is conflict, and not the "you hurt my feelings, but let's make up and still be friends" kind.

>>15797324

>He's not being self centered. He's pointing out that the person giving shit advice is being so self centered

I'm giving advice on how to talk freely with a person, being self-centered is the root of self-consciousness.

>pussy pass

>men don't get anything in exchange

Stop being like a tranny and envying the gifts that women possess. The goal is to make a better situation for your descendants, that is the purpose of a man and what women bring to the table, the furtherance of your line. Modern people are just selfish hedonists who think only of their own 'happiness' and thereby make themselves the most miserable people to have ever lived.

The trick to finding a good mate is to look to their family and see if there are traits you think would bolster your own.

>>15797373

I always go to /v/ for all my expert advice regarding women and dating.

>>15797404

Sexual envy is the bane of modern relationships and a cause of societal disintegration, just like feminists screeching about how men are able to be more successful with their careers. Yes, it's tougher to be a man and date, stop expecting perfect ideals and overcome rejection. You think like a person who is shit at a game and gives up rather than dying enough to achieve mastery. It's all excuses for your own fear and laziness.

>>15792367

>google it

>find cucktropes page

>examples

>all quiet in the western front

I don't even know how to react.

>>15797287

>stop caring about yourself and start caring about others

>just find other introverted people, that will work out!

>stop demanding equal exchanges in a relationship, don't you understand wamen want things too?

>just deal with it!

>>15797405

>just be yourself

>women have it easier, so what? Just deal with it!

>the trick to finding romance is eugenics

I get it now, you're not a woman, you're a /pol/tard that just wants more white babies to be made because this is how your nigger brain thinks relationships are like. We should just put up with how women are for the sake of our race, uh?

>>15797421

>You think like a person who is shit at a game and gives up rather than dying enough to achieve mastery.

And you sound like a pickup artist. Good luck having stable relationships if that's the game you're gonna play.

Just remenber, there's plenty of other things to do with your life besides literally fucking around and you can't shame everyone else to play a game that's rigged from the start when they have plenty of other choices instead.

The sexual market is fucked, taking part in it does nothing but accelerate it's destruction. You're a gullible idiot if you think making more kids to be taken away in divorce for further indocrination or supporting the lifestyle of roasties will actually help.

>>15792373

literally any mmo had better healing mechanics than wow, even runsecape's lobsters

>>15794865

>implying he knows japanese

>>15800269

A complete inability to see past your own delusions and comprehend an opposing argument. Do you get off on demoralizing young people or something?

>you're a /pol/tard that just wants more white babies to be made

I'm talking about Your genetic line, anon, not your races, not your religion's, not your countries, not anyone else's. The thing that can survive brainwashing and countries being overthrown and all the temporal mess that people associate with their identity. Besides, if you have eyes to see something is wrong with the world, don't you want to spread that ability?

>how your nigger brain thinks relationships are like

>should just put up with how women are

Damn, you are completely self-defeated. Do you actually believe that humanity isn't also an animal that forms relationships in order to reproduce? Why do you think you feel lonely or horny then? It goes well with the thought that you can really change how women are constituted, nature is immutable, but it can be culturally perverted, yes. Yet, you yourself are exactly the same perversion of natural living that you cry about in women.

>sexual market is fucked, taking part in it does nothing but accelerate it's destruction

Wait, if it's fucked, then wouldn't accelerating its destruction be a good thing? The convolution of your thought process is very apparent here.

>>15800269

>divorce

Even if the kids aren't exactly taken away in a divorce, it's still a divorce. A "peaceful" end to a marriage in a family that has children is still a shitty thing. Most divorces are anything but peaceful, though, and sometimes it ends in a tragedy. When I see people who are better than I am, both emotionally and financially, fuck it up, I feel even less motivated to try.

I'll fix the world's pain, though. I think the answer lies in Switzerland: they have lots of guns but not that many shootings, so they must have the Holy Grail stashed in a vault or something.

>>15796995

If anything it will make you appreciate video games more.

>>15800773

Obsessed with what the Other is doing, seems to be the common thread here. Voyeurs who think they are different (and probably are) think that they will experience the same things as the people they observe. Have some faith in your own individuality. The only thing you have to do is not be selfish, that's what ends families, men and women caring about themselves more than their children or even when they think of their kids it's always My kids and what I want for them. You do not have to be like them and there are people out there that think the same way or would if exposed to someone who truly understands this way of thinking, it is actually natural and therefore easy.

>>15800822

>just like b urslef and the roastie won't stab you in the back at the first sign of money

Between your reddit-tier pseudointellectual faggotry, and this shit, I feel like you haven't actually been around women long enough to get fucked over.

>>15800822

Can't tell if roastie, reddit, or /leftypol/.

If dubs, all of the above.

>>15800714

>Wait, if it's fucked, then wouldn't accelerating its destruction be a good thing?

I agree with you mostly, but if sinking the ship faster meant I had to be on it I'd be reluctant as well.

>>15800831

Is this all you guys can do? Greentext "just be yourself" and "roastie" while pretending I'm saying things I'm not, and then you call me the one being a pseudointellectual? You've had your brains colonized by people who get off on fucking with you and now you can't even have an argument.

>women

See? Not a woman, not a specific woman, but women. Identity politics in the same vein as feminism.

>>15800853

>women, not a specific woman

>he actually believes the "I'm not like other girls" meme

You're a funny guy, you know that?

>>15800714

>A complete inability to see past your own delusions and comprehend an opposing argument.

Right back at you. The dumbest part of these "debates" is that you're always gonna do that which you accuse your oponents of doing. I wonder who usually does this…

>wouldn't accelerating its destruction be a good thing?

I'd really want to see this car crash happening as soon as possible, but I sure as fuck wouldn't want to be inside the car once it hits the wall. How hard is that to understand?

Way I see it, the best way for this to go is for all Betas to become Omegas and withdraw themselves from the sexual market. Then once there's only Alphas, who are always far more rare than every other male, and the ratio goes something like 10:1 for women to find a partner, let the free market teach them a lesson about "supply and demand" or basically, what happens when an Alpha can switch women around more often than his shirts and they can't opt out of it.

If you're really concerned about the next generation, move to Eastern or Northern Europe (not the shitskin infested countries, though) where you can find women that still understand what a relationship is and stay there.

Rome's gonna burn again whether you're in it or not, so why not move over to a neighbor country where shit isn't as fucked?

>>15800822

>don't worry about the future, everything will be alright if you're positive!

Do you know where most of the delinquents and "rebels" comes from in America? Single Parent households, especially the ones raised by a single mother.

These are your underachieving kids with no motivation for anything, these are your autists with no social skills, these are your petty criminals, but these are also the Antifas and feminists over there.

I'm not making some doomsday prediction about what's going to happen, I'm telling you what already does happen. It's not news, you get married, make 2 kids, she divorces you for alimony and barely tries to raise the 2 kids that you'll likely not even be allowed to see.

They'll come to hate you because you're not present in their life (not your choice, but it's still your fault), they'll have no paternal figure and grow unruly and either end up shooting a school or they'll go study Gender Studies.

If this is what already happens, why would you suggest at all that it is a good idea to get married and make more kids, just to worsen the problem?

>>15800853

>le "all identity politics is bad" maymay

There's absolutely nothing wrong with identity politics. Saying "I'm pro-white" is identity politics. Recognizing that roasties fuck men over far, far more than men fuck over roasties is identity poltiics.

>>>/out/

>>15800858

Still no arguments. Do you think only in some kind of fuzzy meme recognition? I'm pointing out that the 'been there, done that, and I totally get the world' attitude is a narrow-minded pretense built on an image fed to you by the same type of people that convince women that there is a global patriarchy fueled by men's toxic masculinity.

>>15800878

This is way too meta of a thought process though, and as such it relies on many presuppositions about human nature, it's completely missing that it's Your line that will be extinct because of you reaching for an ideal. This isn't a strike for better working conditions, this is removing yourself from the gene pool. Things will crash and shit go to hell and then be rebuilt, just as has happened before, but your descendants will not be there to take part in it. It's an alien and unnatural thought to not value yourself and your line like this, I'd say it is a big part of the reason that things have gotten this bad, this overthinking socially conscious materialism.

>>15800880

Not what I'm saying, I said identity politics in the vein of feminism, i.e. trying to fix human nature, i.e. leftist social engineering. Think outside your memetic box where all you do is search for keywords and ignore context.

>>15800901

>if you recognize that women in modern society have life on easy mode, this makes you just as bad as the feminists and kikes who made it that way

No.

>>15800880

Not him, but I'll disagree with you. There's nothing wrong but there's nothing good about identity politics either. "I'm pro-white" is stupid since you're advocating in favor of ALL whites, including trailer-trash and SanFran faggots.

The capabilities and values of each individual tell you what their worth is, not their race. If I had a brain tumour, I'd rather be operated on by a black neurosurgeon than a white bartender.

Now, if you're talking about "white culture", that's entirely different. Cultures have inhate value due to their uniformity and some are indeed superior to others. Too bad white culture is actually harder to find these days, however.

>>15800893

I expected that those countries would eventually catch TEH GHEY too, but last I heard, they are at least fighting against them. Feminist studies are getting defunded in Romania, for instance.

>>15800896

Why would I care about my descendants, though? I'm not them and I don't want to live through them like some degenerates do.

I wouldn't mind making the world a better place by putting a few more guys and girls like me around and pass on my culture to them, but I already know that's not a realistic option, so why would I delude myself?

The only one delusional here is you, that somehow believes things work out if you have a positive outlook on life and try hard, but the reality is that we only have 2 options: make more NPCs for the world or not. And when you come out of the woodworks to advocate for the first option, you're either part of the problem or fucking mental.

Yeah sure, there's always the third option that you can meet a girl who's worth your time and won't fuck things up. Maybe it can happen, and I'm sure nobody here would turn that away if it happened, don't worry there.

But the chances of that are currently so slim you're gonna have to excuse me for not spending every waking hour working for it. Might as well play the lottery instead and trust that to solve your financial problems, just as realistic too.

>>15800917

Culture doesn't spring up out of the void, but is created by the race in question. White culture is a product of the white race, and if the white races dies out through racial mixing, which you say you're okay with since you just said

>individuals matter, not race

Then white culture, which you claim to admire, will die too.

Lastly, with your neurosurgeon example, for every black neurosurgeon, there are ten thousand whites who could do the job better due to their innate racial characteristics, but were screwed out of the job by (((affirmative action))).

Culture is a racial construct, and only exists as long as the race which created it continues to exist; otherwise it spirals downward. For proof, compare India after the Aryans conquered it to India today.

>>15800917

>fighting against them

Sure, people are trying to fight back, and the fag parade still gets glassed every year they try to actually get it going in my city, but you can't fight the whole world forever. The women of the 1995-2000 generations are absolutely hopeless, while the guys remained mostly normal people the fags got bullied until they stop being fags, but in the generations after 2000, the girls are turbowhores due to infulence of mass media, the internet, etc., while the guys are either peak fags who are so fucking gay they get off on the bullying or outright nazis. But that's just my personal experience, in my little corner of the world. If you want to bro it up with some slavs or balts, they're usually great people. Just don't touch the women.

>>15800962

>posts a pro-Ustase image earlier in the thread

>for some reason disparages Nationalsocialism

Hmmmmmmm.

>>15800917

You're a moron with a retard's conception of how society functions. No one but you is interested in your impossible autistic dream of a totally "meritocratic" society where racial identity doesn't exist, certainly not the half-dozen competent nigger neurosurgeons in existence, and even if they did their moron offspring who have regressed towards the mean won't. The banana republic of Amerikwa is what you get with retarded attempts at "meritocracy", a dysfunctional shit country of asocial bug-mem which punishes whites for being capable and rewards niggers for existing.

Tldr; kill yourself lolberg nigger

>>15800917

>Why would I care about my descendants, though?

Feeling a connection to the past and future is the method by which people find meaning and then succor from their own mortality.

>making the world a better place by putting a few more guys and girls like me around and pass on my culture to them

Biology is real, anon, we are all not simply a product of a culture or upbringing. People are like memory foam, you can shape them for a while but eventually they bounce back to their natural form as long as they don't spend their time chanting the self-hypnotic 'rational' beliefs that the modern world perverts us with. This line of thought you have is what got us in this mess in the first place, self-interested hedonism with a base of nihilism. You'll slap away any rope thrown to save you from your own emptiness.

>>15800966

Ah fuck nigger, I said "nazis" because I'm not thinking straight, since I'm about to go to bed. I apologize for triggering your autism.

>>15800974

It's okay, I forgive you.

>>15800932

>Culture doesn't spring up out of the void, but is created by the race in question.

No. Culture is influenced by far more things than simply your genetics. The climate surrounding you, your neighbors, your natural resources, all of it changes how a culture develops far more than your genes. Even race itself develops based on those characteristics, so if race affects culture, it's a secondary effect of those conditions.

>for every black neurosurgeon, there are ten thousand whites who could do the job better due to their innate racial characteristics

And for every white neurosurgeon, there are ten thousand basic bitches and swaglords that have never progressed beyond an high school mentality because of their own decisions.

You're changing the topic here, the debate about why some people reach or miss a specific position in the world is something entirely different than their worth being based on skills or race.

>Culture is a racial construct

We are getting to SJW levels of argumentation here. Almost all of Europe was caucasoid for most of the middle ages and yet every single country managed to have it's own different culture. Same race, different cultures. You can argue they do have genetic differences but they are incredibly small and irrelevant when you consider the massive differences between each countries culture.

The fact that it's cold as fuck in Germany and a warm weather blankets all Mediterranean countries did far more to shape those cultures than the shade of their skin or shape of their cranium.

>>15800987

>lolbertarian thinks that culture has no basis in the race which created it

>defends niggers as long as the individual nigger in question passes his test of what qualifies as a 'good person'

Yep, I shouldn't have expected an intelligent response from someone who unironically defends

>muh intelligent niggers tho

Hang yourself.

>>15800994

Now do you see that lines of thought saying to remove yourself from the genepool because women are being manipulated by a shit culture has its roots in leftist egalitarian social engineering?

>>15800970

What are you so afraid of, nigger? If you do good in school and get a decent job, you'd do really well in a meritocratic society. Something you'd get away just from being white, isn't it?

Only reason anyone would be in favor of race instead of merit selecting someone is if they are white but have no merit themselves because they squandered their life in pointless endeavors.

If that's you, you can get fucked, society would lose nothing if you were to jump off a cliff anyway.

>>15800972

>Feeling a connection to the past and future is the method by which people find meaning and then succor from their own mortality.

It's the method YOU find meaning. Likely others do as well, but not everyone thinks in the same way or finds meaning in the same way. Something, something, you can't understand oposing arguments, or something like that.

>Biology is real

Oh right, I forgot. My kids will be imprinted with my culture, so regardless of how they are raised, they'll turn out to be alright, nothing to worry about.

Hey faggot, last I checked the cultural shift towards feminism happened BEFORE race mixing was wide-spread, so somehow a new culture was implanted on an entire generation that did not came from someone else's genes.

All this talk about biology you guys like to use is all fun and games and I had biology when I was in college too, still watch a few videos by big brain biologists.

But when you look at the real world and how things actually happen, suddendly biology doesn't actually explain everything.

>>15801007

>not everyone thinks in the same way or finds meaning in the same way

'I am not an animal' the elephant man cries!

>But when you look at the real world and how things actually happen, suddendly biology doesn't actually explain everything.

Look deeper than the last few centuries.

>>15800994

>lolbertarian thinks that culture has no basis in the race which created it

Causation and correlation, Anon.

Let's say we are talking about French culture. You see french generations perpetuating the same culture, generation after generation and you assume it's because they are caucasoid, but you're forgetting that they are also french and therefore there's 2 different things that could contribute to passing on their culture. The fact that they are born in that culture, that their family was raised in it and the environment surrounding them is like that will result in them keeping that culture with them, the fact that they are caucasoid is a paralell factor that doesn't really influence it that much.

I get that whenever someone says "migrant" the first thought that comes to your head is a mexican or an iranian, but here in Europe there used to be a very different view to that since migration was quite common here due to economic reasons many years back.

Me specifically, I've had part of my family migrating to another country. A couple that was 100% born and raised here.

Their kids barely speak my language anymore and are more accustomed to that countries culture because that's where they were raised.

We are all still part of the same race, but our culture is quite different and they were changed into it by being in different conditions.

Let me put it another way too:

The reason why germans work hard but ethiopians don't is because if you don't work in germany, you fucking die from starvation or cold. Meanwhile in ethiopia, you just grab a banana and walk around naked all day. Germans needed to work to survive, ethiopians did not. This created a very different mentality and shaped the culture of both countries, but it's their environment and not their race that did this. In fact, germans might be more resistent to the cold while ethiopians are more resistant to the sun (all racial traits) because of their environment as well, not the other way around.

It's funny that the more south you go in Europe, the more the people in that area are known for being lazy. Mediterranean countries are infamous for just buying and selling shit for a living instead of actually working, for instance.

You also have examples like japanese being genetically weak against alcohol since they never got to make some of the heavier stuff we have here and not the reverse, etc.

All I'm saying is that your race has evolved to adapt to your environment just like your culture did. But culture can evolve a lot faster than your race can with a lot more changes every generation than your genes can do, making Culture simply Genetics 2.0 and something almost unique to the human race that we should focus on. You can't change race except in extremely violent or unethical ways, but you can change culture far more easily, faster and for much better results.

>>15801036

You're disingenuous. You try to say that because environment has some influence on culture, which it obviously does, that race therefore has a negligible influence on it.

Ethiopians are the way they are because of their genetics. If you transported the population of Ethiopia to Germany, and transplanted the (white) populatino of Germany to Ethiopia, then Ethiopia would become a new Germany, and Germany would become a new Ethiopia. Germans are what makes it Germany, not the environment but the German people itself. It's the environment that's secondary.

White South Africans made a great nation, and now that niggers are taking over it's becoming another savage shithole, because niggers are genetically incapable of maintaining a civilized country.

White Spaniards uplifted the Central and South American Indians, and only after mixing with them did they begin to degenerate; and the ones which mixed the least or not at all always won the wars and maintained a higher culture than the ones where mixing was common (Compare Venezuela with Chile).

>>15801036

You cannot change a rock into a duck with the power of the mind though. There exist limits on what is an effective mode of being for humans to live by and those are shaped by the underlying principles that shaped the universe, same as genetics is influenced by environment. We can see that by the last few centuries being continually shaped by ideals that flew in the face of ancient cultures and the outcome of that being mass social disintegration. Of course it's a Yin and Yang situation with Nature vs. Nuture, but you cannot ignore either side. Having descendants is a way to push past any temporary fuckups of human ego. Think longterm.

>>15801027

name?

>>15801036

I forgot a few more examples:

The Chinese population in France is doing really well because they've integrated into their culture and are now part of it. They are essentially racial chineses with french culture.

Meanwhile I've seen "china towns" where there's nothing but chinese inside and they do not integrate at all, keeping their culture chinese.

You also have the nigger hood culture that you'd expect to be exclusive to niggers, but you can easily find white people partaking in it. All it takes is being raised as part of that culture and you've got yourself a wigger as well.

I also have family that descended from white people but spent a few generations in african countries. They did not racemix at all, but when they came back their skins were still different and even their way of thinking due to the hardships of living in that region.

Then you also have the whole "worth of life" that differs greatly between different cultures.

In Africa, nobody gives a shit about human life. Is that because they are niggers? Nope. It's because everyday thousands die from crocodiles, starvation, a freak storm, the heat, disease, whatever. The population solves this by popping 15 kids instead of just 3 but the result is that life in Africa is worthless as fuck.

Meanwhile in civilized countries, we specialize every individual and spend a ton of resources and time until they are ready to contribute to society. We also understand that you have to care for the biggest amount of people possible in order to find that 1 in 10000 that's a genius, and therefore life here has a lot of worth intrinsic to it.

It's really not the race that dictates that but rather our way of living and the environment around us. Race is just a consequence of all that too.

>>15801064

>You try to say that because environment has some influence on culture

I don't say "some", I say most of it. Race ends up having little effect because race is affected by the environment anyway.

>If you transported the population of

Stop. If you transplanted populations, you'd be taking their genes AND their culture. This neither proves nor disproves anything either of us is saying.

I could just as well say that German CULTURE is what makes it Germany.

However what I could say is that German culture would change over the time if they were transplanted to a completely different environment. They wouldn't have the same resources or the same needs and therefore their way of living would obviously change much faster than their race would.

>White South Africans made a great nation

But is it because they are white or because they brought their culture from Europe with them? You keep conflating these 2 things as if race or culture are the same, you really shouldn't do this.

White South Africans did not changed the society of blacks in that country, they left them to live as they always did, apartheid and all and the result was that black culture did not change. Why is this a surprise?

Meanwhile Spaniards actually imported much of their culture to South America and those countries are far much better than what they used to be or what most african countries currently are.

It's all still a matter of importing a specific culture.

>>15801069

>You cannot change a rock into a duck with the power of the mind though.

That's true, which is why I consider Culture far more important than Genetics.

3 generations ago and 3 generations from now, your family will most likely be the same genetically speaking. But the culture between each generation will look so different it's almost like they came from different countries.

If we want to maintain social cohesion, simply having more of the same race wouldn't suffice. They will be raised in a different culture and will grow up to hate and despise others, even if they are of the same race. Just see most confronts between Antifa and their oponents. It's pretty much whites vs whites but with a different culture on either side.

What we need is to promote a superior culture, to exholt it and live up to it, letting anyone that wants to take part in it to join, regardless of race, and let everyone else that ignores the superior culture to rot away and succumb to time itself.

>>15801099

>What we need is to promote a superior culture, to exholt it and live up to it, letting anyone that wants to take part in it to join, regardless of race, and let everyone else that ignores the superior culture to rot away and succumb to time itself.

Those ancient environmental differences, baked through millennia into our genetic code, will not be washed away by as changeable a thing as your idea of a culture is though. You've probably never really lived in a multicultural land, people will segregate and form subcultures outside of large cities, which are themselves a subculture. You see the flashy outside and think that it is the essential. This, like all the other idealistic utopian ideologies of the past few centuries, is just modern man trying to be a god and remake the world as he sees fit, another Frankenstein's monster on the pile. Well, I just wanted to expose the root of your beliefs for the impressionable here and I've accomplished that.

>>15801099

>culture is more important than genetics

>niggers aren't niggers because of genetics, it's just environment goy! now let's integrate them into white schools and neighborhoods so they'll be just like whites! oh whoops, that didn't work

Go kill yourself you kike. I gave you the benefit of the doubt before, but you can fuck off.

>Sotuh Africa didn't become great because of the White South Africans, but their culture

Even though niggers came and turned everything to shit, you still try to expain it away as only cultural.

Seriously. Hang yourself, you pussy nigger apologist.

Persona 3

NEETs are too retarded to understand that it is basically a self-help guidebook though

>>15801155

>Those ancient environmental differences, baked through millennia into our genetic code

Are irrelevant. Technology solved most of our problems, we adapt the environment to use now, we don't change according to it anymore. There's really no good reason why you couldn't transplant white culture all across the globe besides resistance from every other culture but that's a war you fight without guns, fortunnaly.

However at the end of the day, would it really matter if you had a black neighborhood near yours full of black doctors, teachers and engineers? Would it really matter that those individuals were more resistant to skin cancer but less likely to rise above the top percentile of a bell curve if they shared your values and culture?

What's the real issue after all? That there's people in your country that resort to crime and wellfare to survive or that they are black? Because you solve the first by changing culture and the second by eugenics, but good luck trying to do the second option and finding support for it.

>You've probably never really lived in a multicultural land

Carefull when making assumptions about other people online, especially in Anon territory. You know next to nothing about someone besides what he posts, so for all you know, I could have lived in such a place.

I also gave you an example regarding this. Chinese in Paris are doing just fine because they adapted and integrated into the local culture instead of isolating themselves. Their kids are fluent in french and get along with everyone else's kids too However in other countries, they'll stick to their neighborhood and make a closed society without integrating at all, resulting in the shitty poor chinatowns we often see.

Same race, different locations and culture with very different results. Now go ask the french who do they have a problem with, the chinese that integrated or the muslims that refuse to change culture.

>>15801193

Are you guys creationists by any chance?

You'll have no problem accepting the entire mechanism behind evolution and how it shapes every animal to be adapted in their specific environment, but when it comes to the human race suddendly race is something inflexible and immutable from the beginning of time.

Niggers are niggers because niggers don't have to work and they don't value life at all. Why? Because their environment lends itself to a hunter-gatherer society where r-selection helps a lot more.

Coincidentally, niggers are black because the environment benefits those that can resist solar rays better.

The environment gave them their black skin, so saying they don't work because of their skin and not the environment is incredibly dumb. Being black is just a consequence of it all.

>now let's integrate them into white schools and neighborhoods

Now you're exagerating shit I never said because that's what you wanted to read. Picking up a random kid from Africa and putting him in America won't do anyone any good or change anything, he's too integrated into their culture to change enough during childhood.

But putting schools and teaching kids in their countries WILL change their culture and improve their country.

>Even though niggers came and turned everything to shit, you still try to expain it away as only cultural.

Black culture came along and turned everything to shit. It wasn't black people that performed badly in their job or anything similar, it was black people saying they had a right to those lands, it was them enforcing and defending their black culture that screwed that place.

>you pussy nigger apologist

You realize that the consequence of your way of thinking is "there's nothing to be done, they will always be niggers!", but you forget that you're not gonna have everyone else cheering on for the mass slaughter of them either. If people actually start believing what you say, that there's nothing to be done and their culture is as immutable as their race, then what you get is Australia world-wide where their natives are allowed and protected by the government to get away with whatever the fuck crazy shit they wanna do because "they just don't know better and we can't change that".

If instead of being a short-term-thinking brainlet you actually acknowledge that culture can actually change (which shouldn't be a foreign concept, what the fuck?) than you can argue in favor of actually exterminating black culture, due to how harmfull it is for everyone, and you can find a lot more support for that than for apartheid, eugenics, concentration camps or whatever ridiculous solution you came up with. Assuming you even have one.

>>15801233

I have to agree that most people living here wouldn't have as much of a problem with sandniggers if they actually integrated and made an effort to become part of the culture.

That said, it's a much different situation than in America. Since the majority carry their religion with them too, causing more division and culture clashes and keeps the newer generations stuck in that rut as well as they become muslims like their parents. I don't know if it's easier to force them to integrate or just deport all the bad ones since the ones that do integrate aren't a problem in the first place.

>>15801330

>the majority carry their religion with them too, causing more division and culture clashes

Now you're getting it. There's nothing wrong with muslims praying to their god in the confort of their house or in their mosques. It's only when their culture clashes with ours with Sharia Law enforcement or when they blast their prayes in loud speakers that we start to have problems.

Because otherwise, nobody actually gives a fuck anymore than christians or atheists shitfling around.

>I don't know if it's easier to force them to integrate or just deport all the bad ones since the ones that do integrate aren't a problem in the first place.

The easiest way would be to keep those that integrate and keep out any that hasn't naturalized yet along with their kids back to their country if they commit any crime or cause problems.

This isn't the easiest simply because it costs less resources. The bueraucracy involved will cost far more than the bullets it'd take to exterminate them after all.

But it's a solution you can get massive support behind since nobody actually wants to live next doors to religious extremists or criminals of any kind, and with that support under democracy you can actually and realistically expel them from a country.

Bonus points if you defend those that actually integrate, not just because it makes everyone else support you even more, it's almost Pavlonian training for every other migrant to integrate since there's clear rewards in ditching their fucked up culture behind.

If you ever wondered, this is what libertarians actually advocate for, tenable solutions you can actually achieve and get support for that result in the best possible outcome with the least amount of bloodshed.

"lolbertarians" however are another breed, just as inflexible as the left or the right.

>>15801435

>It's only when their culture clashes with ours with Sharia Law enforcement or when they blast their prayes in loud speakers that we start to have problems.

Well, those are the most obvious examples, but I'm not sure in how much their religion can be taken away from the culture. I say this not knowing a whole lot about islam in a formal manner, but I don't know if that religion can exist in the West among other religions/atheists along with core western values without some kind of neutering or "westernization" if you will.

Why was this thread bumplocked? We were getting some good discussions going.

>>15801541

Something something video games.

>>15792371

are you talking about the roguelike?

>bumplocked

4channel mods work here now?