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ab4214 No.15789272
>limited library of games
>no backwards compatibility for original ps1 discs
>still have to buy separate memory cards
So when are you selling your Bloodborne box and never buying from Sony again?
345c40 No.15789292
News just broke that a bunch of the games are fucking 50hz PAL versions for some reason.
09a123 No.15789297
>>15789272
>>still have to buy separate memory cards
You're fucking shitting me
ab4214 No.15789314
>>15789297
Wait I have that wrong. Memory cards don't work at all. It has a built in memory. The slots are pointless. But it also seems Sony doesn't have plans to add to the library at all in the future.
45e687 No.15789322
>separate memory cards
Are they vita memory cards?
09a123 No.15789329
>>15789314
Ah then that's fucking nothing. NES/SNES/Atari/etc classics won't have their libraries built on either. The only classic that was even designed to let you add more games to is the commodore 64. It even explains how to do it. Rest of them are dust collecting trash.
8ae1ee No.15789333
>have to pay for additional memory cards
>games are 50hz PAL versions
How do you fuck up something so simple; so badly.
2362fd No.15789335
>>15789272
>>limited library of games
Known for the past month
>>no backwards compatibility for original ps1 discs
"
>>still have to buy separate memory cards
Fucking what?
>>15789314
>Wait I have that wrong. Memory cards don't work at all. It has a built in memory.
Oh, never mind.
>>15789329
>The only classic that was even designed to let you add more games to is the commodore 64. It even explains how to do it. Rest of them are dust collecting trash.
What about that Mini Genesis box that Sega sells?
09a123 No.15789362
>>15789335
>What about that Mini Genesis box that Sega sells?
They have like 10 of them now and they're all produced by a Chinese company with no quality control. Lots of angry reviews about them being flimsy garbage with shit libraries and technical problems.
e1f4f6 No.15789372
>>15789272
So basically emulation wins again?
e1f4f6 No.15789379
Sorry for doubleposting
>>15789335
>What about that Mini Genesis box that Sega sells?
From what I've seen those all have garbage sound emulation, and good sound emulation is something very important for the Genesis.
d4f747 No.15789414
>no backwards compatibility for original ps1 discs
You wouldn't want Sony to lose money from people buying old second-hand games, right anon?
e6b9f6 No.15789451
>>15789292
>for some reason
Amerimutts, most pal ps1 games had spanish, french and german languages in addition to english.
524c4a No.15789464
>>15789414
of course. Don't want people to remember the days of completed games.
2362fd No.15789476
>>15789464
>Don't want people to remember the days of completed games.
Anon, do any of these people even beat the games they buy?
524c4a No.15789600
>>15789476
the modern soyboys and gaymer grills? of course not. They don't play games at all.
2362fd No.15789631
>>15789600
Should have provided a source to the pic: https://archive.fo/4hqgF
56b51c No.15789809
Well since the PS Classic is a sham and a scam, how about we dedicate the thread to the people that have half a brain and actually emulated the PS1. What are the must plays in your opinion?
I have been playing Ace Combat 2 and Ridge Racer 4 with OpenEmu. So far, each of those games are fully fleshed out and great, it's a shame gaming has descended into a money grabbing industry. Overall, though I am (((excited))) that I am finally able to play games on a console that I haven't touched in decades.
f7318e No.15789819
>>15789272
>>15789297
>>15789322
>>15789335
The absolute state of /v/.
Fact checking goes before posting
476923 No.15790051
>>15789451
Yeah, but that stopped being a problem when even Europe got 60 Hz TVs back in the early to mid 2000s and now even they have 60 Hz TVs nowadays. Why they don't just ship the 60 Hz NTSC versions of these games in 2018 makes no sense, considering that fact.
0de04a No.15790072
>>15790062
>Emulation
>How it was meant to be played
9cbdfe No.15790077
>>15789451
Then why not release the American Playstation classics with the fucking American disk images?
Yeah, that's smart. Using fucking PAL disk images on an NTSC standard.
ab1f8f No.15790154
I don't fucking get it. If they can shit this stuff out there is zero reason they couldn't just restart console production. You can't tell me this is any significantly less expensive to manufacture than a standard PS1 which would benefit from modern technologies making it cheaper to produce. Game makers hate second hand game sales so they're making it incompatible out of spite.
They're charging $15 for a stupid fucking "mini-arcade" with Pac-Man. 15 fucking years ago you could buy one of those joystick boxes that had Pac-Man, Galaga, Dig-Dug, Tetris, and a half dozen other game on it for less than $20. This stupid soy-boy reproduction game box shit is ridiculous. The quality is lower and the price is higher than when it wasn't some fucking soyfuck fad.
d195b7 No.15790186
>>15790154
Old consoles use a lot of very specific chips. They'd have to start up manufacturing for all of them and it would come out to being more expensive unless it does extremely well. Hell, most 8-bit home computers now have authentic replacement chips go for several hundred dollars, and the alternatives are imperfect emulation chips. Either it would cost a lot or be imperfect.
This is just a shitty Arduino-type that they're probably already manufacturing for their TVs or some other division, or could just buy in bulk for cheap from someone in China.
ab1f8f No.15790213
>>15790186
I didn't know this, but they wouldn't have to make an exact copy. Isn't the technology there for them to make a new console that appears the same externally and plays the same discs but has more economic internals?
2362fd No.15790231
>>15790213
That would require them to actually put in some fucking effort. Heck, they could have even used all those now discontinued Vita units and re-purpose them to exclusively play PS1 games, but nope. THIS thing running a RetroArch core.
809225 No.15790234
>>15789272
Piracy and emulation are always the best options.
Never buy.
>>15789911
Scalper won't get any money.Fun is always free.
d195b7 No.15790237
>>15790213
Think about it like this: not even the PS2 has perfect BC with the PS1. They would have to design hardware that's damn similar to the PS1 at the very least, and while it could be cheap in terms of cost, setting up a production line just for it would probably not make it worth it in. They certainly could make a box that runs disks and memory cards, but it would still be an Arduino and emulate it instead of running it natively. The problem there would be price of components (if they're unwilling to add sticks to their controllers, imagine how they feel about a fucking disk drive and proprietary memory card/controller slots) and they would most likely need to write up emulation for at least the memory card slots, since emulators don't exactly use authentic PS1 memory cards (and if they're using someone else's emulator entirely, do you really think they're willing to put even that much effort into it?)
f2e978 No.15790251
>>15790213
Hardware was specifically made to significantly speed up operations software couldn't do fast enough. You either recreate that fucking expensive hardware, or you deal with inaccurate emulation. Remember how computer audio development was fucked over after Creative fucked up?
26dd5d No.15790314
>>15790077
I'd imagine it's so they could sell it in Quebec. The agreement the ESA reached with Quebec is that if there was no French version of a game they could release it in English only but had to include the French version if there was one.
The SNES mini ran into this problem and was barred from sale in Quebec for this reason..
5deded No.15790369
>>15790200
>Someone wants to play a video game without graphical errors
>That means we must recreate the Statue of David using 3d printers that spit out ugly-as-shit resin strands
>Pretending that people don't make modern recreations of classical art anyway
4cabb0 No.15790385
>>15790376
> You're probably one of those fags who plays games at 10x their original resolution and then complains about how ugly everything looks.
They are still above the "HD Texture pack" scum.
c03fec No.15790386
>>15789911
>dirt-tier single board computer with extremely inaccurate and hacky emulation
>original hardware
>(1)
Hello cuckchan.
81abac No.15790393
>>15790376
>Basically the same thing as shitty emulation.
Yes, but good emulation is far superior.
345c40 No.15790438
>>15789451
>sacrificing frames for gay dead langauges
345c40 No.15790444
>>15790072
It's not. it's better.
b336de No.15790446
>>15790424
> playing on an emulator that introduces new glitches, lag, and other issues improves the experience
We're talking about PS1/PSX emulation, not PS2, Saturn or even N64 emulation. Unless you are talking about old ass emulators like Bleem!, PSX emulation has been near perfect for almost 10 years now as you can play pretty much any game made for the PSX with no lag,glitches or any real issues and you can improve the graphics if you are into that, skip tedious dialogue or FMVs and savestate in areas that are either tedious to get to or really difficult in a game. Just because you have a preference for the original PSX hardware doesn't make it superior to modern PSX emulators.
f2e978 No.15790531
>>15790517
Here's no negative impact from upscaling.
6b16a4 No.15790565
>implying i bought a bloodborne box
8a3a00 No.15790938
>>15790563
damn that picture on the rightlooks like fucking ass
looks like the kind of pig you would tap (13)
bb16fd No.15790951
Why do these threads always attract gamezard? He hasn't even played on consoles in 10+ years.
e6b9f6 No.15790993
>>15790051
Because the 60hz aka the ntsc versions don't have languages other than english, and SOnY ain't gonna spend a dime on porting the languages from one release to other, they didn't even give us the dualshock ps1 controller.
>>15790077
Because why would they sell region specific ps classics when you can just slap the multilanguage pal isos on it, ship it to the entire continent and keep the burgers, canucucks and spics happy?
a9dfdf No.15791001
>>15790618
>he thinks that looks worse
Take off your nostalgia goggles
141404 No.15793703
>>15791001
weebshit belongs in >>>/a/
a3c1ea No.15793730
You better sell your soytendo wagglestation too then because the NES and SNES minis are equally shit. There haven't been a single good retro console release so far.
1b398d No.15794097
There's literally no reason for a Playstation Classic because your Playstation 3 can already play Playstation 1 discs via native emulation, allowing you to play the games with an HD connection and using digital emulated memory cards so you don't have to worry about shuffling around physical memory cards or remembering which games are on which card. Or losing a memory card, the data on the card becoming defective, etc.
Aside from that, the selection of games available is pretty sparse all things considered. Only 1 Squaresoft game is included in the entire collection, the racing game collection is sparse considering how many quality racers were on it we get the first Oddworld game but not the sequel, etc. 20 games is simply not enough and at least several of the games can be acquired other ways with digital purchases or via a remake like Oddworld.
12231a No.15794108
>>15794097
>native emulation,
1b398d No.15794173
>>15794108
You can emulate PS1 games from the disc, right out of the box with your PS3. Maybe the way I worded it wasn't the exact way the PS3 hardware works but it's really all semantics at that point, you can play your PS1 games emulated on your PS3 by just plopping the disc in.
28284f No.15794380
>>15789292
>>15790993
>Using the 50hz PAL versions just because of Euro language inclusion
Even Nintendo didn't fuck that up with their mini classics, though it does fuck up some of their past Wii U VC titles (Eg: Paper Mario N64 or other text heavy games).
Why can't more companies do the simple thing and have the option for both NA and Euro versions?
1e3c86 No.15794691
>>15794380
>"Why can't more companies be more competent?"
We'll probably never know…
76f554 No.15794763
>>15794380
>Why can't more companies do the simple thing and have the option for both NA and Euro versions?
double the sd card size for double the ROMs. it's actually amazing Snoy didn't do this. for an added fee, of course.
2eb2df No.15795689
>>15789272
>Buying memory cards for a plug and play device.
This can't be real.
445739 No.15795697
>>15794177
It's a 3d game you stupid motherfucker, not spriteshit.
445739 No.15795856
>>15795822
That port was probably made before you were born shitskin.
341ea6 No.15795865
>>15790200
>>15790277
>>15790355
>>15790376
>>15790391
>>15790424
>>15790432
>>15790451
>>15790484
>>15790526
>>15790570
>>15790618
Imagine being this retarded,
445739 No.15795869
>>15795860
And you're still act like one, good sign.
341ea6 No.15795878
>>15795860
You know other people in their 30s are starting a family while you are sitting getting legitimately getting upset about what someone said regarding a texture in a video game? Honestly if you're actually as old as you say you are it's sad.
445739 No.15795884
>>15795878
That's the worst part, retarded manchildren in their fucking 30s making retarded soy-tier arguments.
46f8f4 No.15795891
>>15795883
>>15795889
>using the phrase 'zoomer'
Get the fuck out and never come back.
445739 No.15795906
>>15795893
Kill yourself cuckchan.
a43f9b No.15795952
>>15789272
I already dropped Sony during their censorship insanity. I'm keeping my PS4 but I won't buy any games for it unless they're used. The only games I want are Trails of Cold Steel 3&4, and if they they do come out they'll get PC ports anyway.
b8dd00 No.15795969
>>15795952
>The only games I want are Trails of Cold Steel 3&4, and if they they do come out they'll get PC ports anyway.
Assuming they even come west, that XSEED doesn't suffer a quality degradation, and that sony doesn't discover content within that offends them to forcibly censor here. I suppose PC ports could avoid the latter issue, but that's assuming it's deemed worth submitting multiple versions of the game for ratings (I know they did so for Senran so people would still buy the game in some format, but still).
6ce200 No.15796684
>mods deleted my entire post history in the thread because they couldn't handle me calling people young
Mods = fags
Fuck this gay ass board.
46f8f4 No.15797650
>>15796684
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.