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1edaaf  No.15762418

I have just finally played Starcraft 2 in its totality (I played only WoL before, and now I have replayed it plus HotS & LotV). And boy, game have so many wrong things with it, plus many good things but not done/pushed enough.

>The campaigns style of feeling like a commander with options to choose upgrades/troops, and more is good, but should be more, having more options. So many times it feels like its an incomplete feature.

<Also, campaigns overall feel really short, and makes the end-game features in the campaign mode underused, and feeling like wasted stuff.

>One big problem in 2 is that you arent a Commander/Cerebrate/Executor anymore, and now you are like just controlling the nu-Blizzard characters with the mouse, following the retarded story-line imposed to you so there isnt any inmersion given to you in the game.

>There is some non-linearity in the game, but is mostly to either go directly to the big story mission (And then go to do the other "growing you army up" missions) or not. and there is some choice to missions, but is barebones, an should be more.

>Game being, and should obviously be, and RTS, still the singleplayer mode sohlud have been more of managing more in depth your organization/army/faction, but instead, we get just an above than average campaign mode.

Really disappointing, and it would be too long & tiring to describe all wrong with the story, to be honest.But even if we forget the story/style of the game, the gameplay part of the singleplayer feels like it should be more, and for being a 2010s game, backed by a very rich company and a strong franchise (So no need to be worried about it failing). Yet it only marginally improves over other mainstream RTS singleplayers…I expected the other games to improve notably over the first SC2 game, but i didnt happen!No wonder the game failed miserably, compared to its first game, and now SC is almost dead as a franchise.

Starcraft thread, I guess, too. I would like also to know if there any videos about decribing how shitty is SC2 to watch. I remenber one video of WoL that parodied Cuckasa RedLetterMedia format about reaterded history of WoL., but I cant find it anymore…it is down?

b1ebc7  No.15762430

>starcraft 2's story is shit

stop the fucking presses


bed255  No.15762462

>>15762430

You didn't read a single sentence of OP's post. He focused on the gameplay part rather than the story and shat on it. I don't agree with him but he's got a more interesting argument than the usual.


72d693  No.15762469

I dont care if it has been said before

but turning kerrigan from cool big queen bitch into space jesus was a fucking bad move


1edaaf  No.15762496

>>15762469

>I dont care if it has been said before, but turning kerrigan from cool big queen bitch into space jesus was a fucking bad move

Obviously, but its normal when the story itself is an ==AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS== one. And therer is no other choice given to it. you know what could have been cool? That they gave you the choice to either kill Kerrigan (Making the later campaign harder for you, but at least you avenged billions od deads, plus you make Tychus alive), or let her live, with some other disadvantages. That would have been cool, plus in the Zerg part, you would have as her replacement a truly Zerg general to controll (If not Zagara, then a new OC Zerg).


4641ad  No.15762514

There's lots of video series and internet forum threads breaking down the ridiculousness of SC2's shitastic story. This has been discussed endlessly. As far as the actual game goes-

>The campaigns style of feeling like a commander with options to choose upgrades/troops, and more is good, but should be more, having more options. So many times it feels like its an incomplete feature.

Having more options would have had an adverse effect on gameplay. The point is you aren't able to get every upgrade so you're always missing out on something. A noob on Brutal is railroaded into getting specific upgrades otherwise the game becomes needlessly more difficult as not all upgrades have equal values. A master on Brutal doesn't need any of the upgrades because the game is still too easy for them. So having more is meaningless and opens up a door where nu-blizz would create upgrades that are insanely more powerful than others forcing you to play a specific way.

>One big problem in 2 is that you arent a Commander/Cerebrate/Executor anymore

Yeah it's shit. Jim still talks to you as if you're a commander at certain points and in the game world it makes no fucking sense. I never played LOTV expac because I gave up on the game by the time that released. Kerrigan's campaign was just fucking awful how you could solo a lot of missions with just her even on Brutal. No reason to micro units just throw them at the enemy base and only focus on Kerrigan.

>There is some non-linearity in the game, but is mostly to either go directly to the big story mission (And then go to do the other "growing you army up" missions) or not. and there is some choice to missions, but is barebones, an should be more.

If you were given more missions they wouldn't have had any meaningful effect on the overall story. In the world they created what could they have done with Jim? Some side missions where you're bounty hunting? For what purpose though? To get more money to spend on unit upgrades you don't even need? Yeah, if this was a good game by competent developers I would have loved more side content that expands on the universe but as the game stands extra content is a fucking waste of time.

>Game being, and should obviously be, and RTS, still the singleplayer mode sohlud have been more of managing more in depth your organization/army/faction, but instead, we get just an above than average campaign mode.

Yes, another company should have made this game instead.

>>15762469

respec wammen


cb21de  No.15762515

>>15762469

Everything about the story was bad. Blizzard didn't like the old RTS way of telling a story, by making the player just some nameless, silent commander that's there for the ride. Blizzard went the Hollywood route and made the story some space epic about saving the Galaxy n shiieeeet. I still can't believe I was supposed to feel sad for Kerrigan when she was the antagonistic for whole first game. What literal troglodyte felt sad when this cunt lost her powers?


3e1339  No.15762554

File: e4febffaed6f2a3⋯.png (25.42 KB, 1241x509, 1241:509, blizz support XDDXXDXD.png)

>>15762515

I haven't played the second or third campaign (because I would need to give my personal information to pic related to get access to my account again) but I have a question. At the end of the Terran campaign Kerrigan becomes de-zerged by the Alien McGuffin. How and why does she become infested again in the Zerg campaign? Doesn't that make the already pointless story of the first campaign even more pointless?


4641ad  No.15762563

>>15762554

Go the website and get the customer support chat. Tell them you're not going to give them a copy of YOUR FUCKING ID to access a video game account. They'll ask you the answer to the secret question you set up and then restore your account. I had to do this 2 weeks ago.


4641ad  No.15762572

>>15762554

Oh and to answer your other question the beginning of the Zerg campaign kerrigan is separated from Jim and Mengsk makes it seem like he killed Jim when he didn't and so Kerrigan goes to the birth planet of the Zerg to become more powerful to kill the whole universe as revenge.


0b0fb7  No.15762617

File: 94ff5d5a476cad1⋯.jpg (106.03 KB, 604x604, 1:1, 031dfd0b807e704df5ff079724….jpg)

I've never played the first game but my impression of 2 is that WoL was fine mission wise but had some stupid story elements. HotS was fucking retarded in both aspects, though the evolution strain thing was pretty cool, where rogue zerg evolved their own shit. LotV was fucking dogshit holy who even designed and wrote those?

Should I play the first game?


1700ba  No.15762632

>>15762430

In hindsight it was the canary in the coalmine for future Blizzard games.


3e1339  No.15762669

>>15762572

that's pretty dumb

>>15762617

Fuck yeah you should. The voice acting and sound design is still some of my favourite. That's in fact where the game gets a lot of its character. Starcraft 2 has some awful sound effects, like a zergling attack sounding like a wet towel thrown against a wall or a hydralisk attack being some air blown through a straw, and most of the unit lines sound flat and muted.


184ab7  No.15762681

>>15762632

TBC woke up more than people are willing to admit. I remember it getting roasted all over ytmnd when the first details were being revealed.


aaae4a  No.15762721

>>15762617

>"Should I play the first game?"

Definitely yes. The first Starcraft along with it's expansion are fucking classics. Apart from the two good campaigns, there is a fucking lot of custom content to play around with. Just please don't give money to Blizzard and fucking pirate it.


1700ba  No.15762735

>>15762681

I thought TBC was considered a really good expansion?


8bd387  No.15762761

File: b55908eb0ecc343⋯.jpg (4.4 KB, 177x168, 59:56, DHjgWkVVoAAGBFD.jpg large.jpg)

What was wrong with the story? I mean yeah Legacy of the Void shat the bed by being extremely boring and anticlimactic but I thought the buildup to it in WOL and HOTS wasn't that bad.


c25105  No.15762766

>>15762721

Starcraft is free now.

>>15762617

Yes, it's worth playing and still has a community to this day. Even more so now that the game went f2p if you're willing to install the battlenet launcher. Otherwise you can just pirate it.

>>15762735

It was a pretty great expansion when lined up next to all the others. Of course vanilla friends hated anything different. It was downhill after that though.


2d9a8c  No.15762803

THE OVERMIND DID NOTHING WRONG! HE WAS A GOOD ZERG!


b1ebc7  No.15762838

>>15762735

TBC, with its flying mounts and insane inflation of numbers was the beginning of the end

>raided in vanilla for months

>best item i ever got was a +7 stamina, +12 intellect, +40 spellpower sword that took weeks to get

>go to outlands

>kill some pigs or something

>one drops a green pair of pants with +112 agility


1edaaf  No.15762854

>>15762669

>Starcraft 2 has some awful sound effects, like a zergling attack sounding like a wet towel thrown against a wall or a hydralisk attack being some air blown through a straw, and most of the unit lines sound flat and muted.

Yes, and I dont know why didnt they just copy & pasted the SC1 sounds for zerg, if they knew the new ones were horrible.

>>15762766

>Starcraft is free now.

But now requires to create/have a battle.net account, and I think now it bothers the player to get the remastered version of it. I think that even it have performance issues now because of it.


184ab7  No.15762863

>>15762735

Being fun doesn't mean it wasn't filled with retarded writing.


0b0fb7  No.15762864

File: 0d0c7573398a92d⋯.gif (17.33 KB, 690x656, 345:328, 0d0c7573398a92dde82ba50f58….gif)

>>15762766

I only need to download Starcraft itself and broodwar, right? Nothing else?

>tfw can't access torrents because im on landlord internet


b1ebc7  No.15762868

>>15762864

just torrent through a proxy


0b0fb7  No.15762872

File: 5c5417d5d2a7dc2⋯.jpg (74.19 KB, 680x510, 4:3, 5c5417d5d2a7dc20b363f2bcff….jpg)

>>15762868

I don't have the mental capacity to conduct such an act.


896864  No.15762879

File: 54f631ec26e10a1⋯.gif (1.97 MB, 350x350, 1:1, 1430472448478.gif)

>>15762761

>HotS wasn't that bad

>Jim disappears off screen and Kerrigan automatically assumes he's dead

>With him dead she immediately goes back to the Zerg

>Discovers that those unstoppable bug aliens of mysterious origins and dubious ability to control them are actually just a species on a planet with a boner for evolution

>But they're also stronger, better and more special than regular Zerg

>So Kerrigan gets ZERGED

>Except now she's even stronger than she was as the Queen of Blades

>Good thing we spent an entire god damn game stopping her from being zerg

>Also the giant primal zerg?

>It's plan was to make Kerrigan stronger, then eat her when she is super strong

>This unsurprisingly backfires

>She finds out Jim is actually secretly still alive and rescues him

>But he's mad at her now because she's a Zerg again

>Then you have a side mission as Terran where Jim learns to forgive Kerrigan, literally one fucking mission

>In the final scene, Kerrigan literally flies off into the sunset while Jim watches, smiling

Stop having opinions like this.


aaae4a  No.15762891

>>15762864

Pretty sure the share threads have some links for the games. It's as easy as mounting each ISO and running the installers with some fake CD Keys that are usually included. Have fun, nig.


0b0fb7  No.15762894

>>15762891

Archives 404 on me.


2e44c2  No.15762916

>>15762418

that's what you get for playing on easy mode tbh scrub


000000  No.15762981

>>15762418

Everything made by Blizzard is shit.

Everything made by leftists is shit.

Blizzard hired leftists.

There you have it.


4083d6  No.15762994

File: 184fe2dd649ccb6⋯.png (71.8 KB, 367x277, 367:277, Windscribe.PNG)

>>15762872

Not that I recommend a free vpn since they keep logs and shit, but if you've been torrenting without a vpn all this time and don't give a fuck, just download a free vpn like Windscribe or something, all you do is press one button and all traffic on your computer will go through a vpn so it's pretty hard to fuck up, just be sure the firewall option is enabled too too, and obviously stop or remove all torrents and close your torrent client before turning the vpn off.

But how is your landlord going to know you were torrenting anything in the first place, much less that you were torrenting anything illegal and not just Linux or some shit?


0b0fb7  No.15762996

File: 0fdc974334280ab⋯.jpg (44.42 KB, 634x434, 317:217, 0fdc974334280ab8097b2ce0aa….jpg)

>>15762894

Nvm found it after some digging.


0b0fb7  No.15763005

File: e3a052f3eabf08f⋯.jpg (58.08 KB, 800x548, 200:137, 9b6f2bed15463bc7e90fa1e382….jpg)

>>15762994

Its more so websites and links are fucked. I can still download with direct magnet. But to do that somebody has to give it to me. Usually its a friend but its fucking 12 and he rarely logs in.


c25105  No.15763047

>>15762854

>bothers the player to get the remastered version of it.

Well there's an ad in the launcher itself that says the remastered is on sale but it's not a pop-up or any intrusive shit like that. I understand not wanting to download the b.net launcher though. I never heard about performance issues in the free version though. The remastered is shit and no one plays it. As a matter of fact Blizzard removed Warcraft 3 from their store after announcing the remaster most likely because they don't want to make the same mistake they did with stacraft. Why buy a broken "remaster" when the original is free


4a7ce3  No.15763060

>>15762418

>Played SC2 campaign

I am so so sorry.


4493d5  No.15763217

>>15763047

I didn't mind the BW remaster because that's all it was. It didn't retcon shit or change anything besides the graphics and BNet a bit (allowed you to host games without manually forwarding ports 6112-6119 etc).

SC2 is ass, though.


791f05  No.15763239

File: 1525d6008bf741e⋯.jpg (42.01 KB, 832x868, 208:217, 0524edee74a4104daca168f643….jpg)

>>15762554

>^_^

>>.<

>=D


16c044  No.15763261

File: a61e956a863ff48⋯.jpg (88.19 KB, 800x548, 200:137, Putin is a fagit.jpg)




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