/v/ - Video Games

>>15737483

Go away Pete.

Why do you waste our bandwidth?

>>15737483

I think they don't pay you enough for this.

Kys corporate knobgobbler

I'm looking forward to the release because this mess of incompetence is almost guaranteed to work with pirated copies spoofing server data and running cheat engine.

Griefing retards with infinite nukes is going to be really funny for an hour or two.

>>15737498

yeah, same here

>>15737490

F4 is shit, but NV, an actually decent game, has a dogshit engine. What I'm saying is that a TTW like mod that brings this region of the game to F4 is the best we got until that mod that was going to port NV over to the F4 engine is going to be made

>>15737518

yes, which is why F4, with a actually decent engine, might make for a better over all experience for the NV fan remake. I don't know how they will handle multiple dialogue choices and any quests beyond "Kill, Loot, Return", tho

fuck off shill

>>15737519

The only news of Fallout 76 I've heard is that the uninstaller doesn't work.

>>15737524

>which is why F4, with a actually decent engine

>literally more polished turd gamebryo will make new vegas better for graphicsfags

>>>/suicide/

>>15737483

In otherwords the trashpile known as F4. How much are they paying you?

>>15737536

It's just Gamebryo, anon.

>>15737533

Ackshully, f4 engine is worse because of the dialogue window downgrades, the reload animations being made worse and impossible to implement like they were in New Vegas, where you only loaded only what you were missing

>>15737541

it is, at it's core, but they somehow lawyered their way into calling it a separate fork. even though they're keeping it for their next two projects there was supposed to be a job-listing at their company for someone competent enough to fix their shitty programming on the the engine. who knows

>If we slowly raise the temperature the pepe doesn't realise we are boiling him

Get fucked and fuck off.

>>15737483

>if it was a single player game.

Actually, it would be interesting to see how a bethesda game was just a world map and a modding tool kit would be received

>>15737483

>fun

Kys

>>15737577

I actually hoped F76 will basically be that with multiplayer slapped on top of it. It ended up being multiplayer game with 0 support for mods and microtransactions. It also manages to run worse than F4 making it objectively worse mod platform.

It also is not that interesting. Bethesda would put minimal effort towards mod support and it would be enough for remnants of their modding community to jizz their pants.

>F76 looks like it could be fun, if it was a single player game. Cut that cancer out, add in NPCs and quests, and you got a beautiful word and some great visuals.

So Fallout 4.

>In before Vegasfags start moaning Fallout 4 WAS the worst Fallout until 76 became a thing but it was still fun in a plotless build a hut kinda way.

>MMO skinner box would be better without the M the other M or the O

What do you even mean by this? I can't make sense of this statement.

>>15737483

>F76 looks like it could be fun if it was a different game entirely

And you'll buy it anyway.

>shit would taste good if you took out all the shit and ate regular food instead

>>15737735

I don't know why but FemTodd MILF makes me hard for some reason.

Where is the porn spam?

The most horrible thing about Falliut 76 is that it's gonna kill any chance that a Co-Op Fallout game will ever appear. They will take the results of this game and conclude that multiplayer in any form or shape simply does not work and will never try it again. Sounds good in principle, but what this means is never playing with your friends, backing each other up, combining different builds to use multiple skills and equipment and have combat with a greater scale.

It's funny that any time anyone suggested a multiplayer version of TES or Fallout, the idea was always some LAN fun with friends in Co-Op. The base games themselves seem like they'd be great with that. A Spellcaster that supports and buffs a Fighter while a Thief handles the locks and scouting in TES, an hacker\energy weapons traveling with a marksman with lockpicking, etc.

Even the problem with main quests is simple to fix: every player that joins afterwards is a companion, only the host can advance the story. It's a simple compromise that wouldn't upset anyone.

But instead of comfy local Co-Op with friends, what they gave us was 2 MMOs that are terrible for the genre each is trying to emulate.

It's actually pretty amazing how spectacularly they can fuck up, sometimes.

>>15737654

erotic

We could always just play the superior FOnline.

Minus the fact that eso is a success. On steam alone, it has about 15k players a day, which doesn't account for people using just the launcher or consoles.

I think theyll learn from this. Game bro sucks and shouldn't be used for multiplayer. People dont want fallout gameplay in a mmo level scaling world. The world needs story and npcs.

>>15737830

The engine is fundamentally incompatible with multiplayer of any kind. Failout 86'd is actually worse than Star Shitizen in this regard which is something I didn't think was even possible. It's about to be utterly destroyed by hackers too.

While you could be right, to actually achieve that would require total replacement of the engine, all staff and all management,

>>15738189

That only makes it worse, since they have an incentive to make an MMO instead of Lan Co-Op instead. Even worse if other devs take this "lesson" as well.

>>15738241

Obviously they shouldn't use Gamebryo for anything ever again, multiplayer or not. The [Bethesda Game] already requires a new engine for many reasons, not just multiplayer.

However, there's already a few mods that enable multiplayer for some of the games they have, Morrowind, Skyrim and New Vegas for instance. It's not perfect for obvious reasons, but it works far better since you'll often play with friends who won't try to fuck everything up and won't ruin the rest of the game, which is what they should have done in a new engine.

I mean, the mods clearly show there's interest for this kind of content, an untapped market for them. All they had to do was pick a new engine, make another [Bethesda Game] and have multiplayer be an extra form of getting Followers that hopefully aren't as braindead. Essentially the co-op you have in Dark Souls, for instance.

Not only ignoring that kind of solution but also screwing the possibility of modding entirely means they not only squandered an actual niche in the market waiting for them but they also pissed off the niche they had in the first place, because let's not pretend anyone plays a [Bethesda Game] without modding it till it breaks.

Besides… Multiplayer lewd mods, for fuck's sake! Entire servers of degenerates enslaving and raping each other! It's a money-printer!

>>15737483

>Using rick and morty to shill for fallout 76

>The show quickly declining in ratings after the diversity hires

https://www.quora.com/Why-has-the-viewership-of-Rick-and-Morty-dropped-significantly-for-the-start-of-season-3

>>15738304

Boy all of that diversity in viewpoints really helping them out there huh? Not like it matters since they have a contract giving them another four seasons at least.

>>15738356

>Not like it matters since they have a contract giving them another four seasons at least.

Friendly reminder that the last OG adult swim show was killed off too make room for more rick and morty.

>>15738304

>implying diversity hires are the reason it fails

>posts people talking about how the first episode was released unannounced in april's first as the reason it had lower viewership

Not that I disagree that the diversity hires aren't doing the show any favors, but don't contradict yourself this hard or people will call you a retard.

>>15738361

did they finally cancel ATHF/Whatever the fuck it's called now? Over rick and morty, of all things?

>>15737488

>I think they don't pay you enough for this.

They probably aren't paying him at all. He was probably one of those poor bastards who played the Beta and now Bethesda won't allow the game uninstall off his HDD unless he shills for FO76. It'll just sit there bloating up with paid mods and updates… 100GB, 200GB, 500GB, 1TB… and so on, until he does a good enough job and Bethesda releases him from his "obligations".

Can we fucking stop with the threads for this game? Last thread was deleted, why is this one still up?

>>15739190

Adult swim wants to be taken more seriously. ATHF had to go.

>>15738361

It's always for the worst shows, isn't it? I hope AS regretted kicking KOTH for Cleaveland Show.

>>15739202

Your game failed.

I hope they try this "other players are the NPCs!" shit in Skyrim 2, maybe if Beth starts to piss off fans other studios will try making open world RPGs that aren't just Gothic clones.

>>15737498

>downloading 100gb for an hour or two of fun

ANON, STOP!

>>15739540

Is this that Castlevania show? The one headed up by this faggot?

>>15738304

>>15738375

>>15738356

>go out of your way to fuck over samurai jack fans for a shit meme show

Yeah I wonder why it's declining.

>>15739634

Yeah all games have bugs at launch dumbfuck

>>15739620

The animu was truly fucking horrible. The main casts spends the better half of the second season reading books in a library. About the only redeeming feature in it was the battles, and there's far too few of those.

Also, the plot is paced like shit and Belmont is a superfluous character when the story should have focused on Alucard.

>>15739661

Uh, actually Simon was the first Belmont to kill Dracula

>>15739686

No, trevor was.

Simon came way later.

>>15739661

Then the plot shouldn't have been driven by the death of Dracula's wife, nor should Alucard have been in it.

Alucard is fare more emotionally invested in the plot than Belmont, who goes off to fight the vampires just because. Point is that the plot is poorly paced, wastes time on dumb side plots that go nowhere (the Speakers, the Sleeper, Carmilla) when it should have either been a straight up tale of Trevor fighting vampires or a story of father against son.

>>15739691

Simon killed Dracula 2 games before Trevor. He has him beat by a country mile.

>>15739702

I assume you're baiting but 3 was a prequel.

>>15739709

The only question now is if they recycled the Skyrim dragon model. Surely they can't have been as pathetic as that?

>>15739718

I'm talking about the anime you stupid shit. The plot clearly doesn't work in this format.

>>15739714

>The only question now is if they recycled the Skyrim dragon model.

Nah, just the rigging and animation ;^)

>Surely they can't have been as pathetic as that?

You didn't notice it in the beta footage?

>>15739729

The series is a fucking adaptation of castlevania 3 you dumb fuck, just deal with the fact that you have no fucking idea about what youre talking about and stop posting about it.

>>15739620

No, it's a pretty damn good anime movie called Tokyo Godfathers.

>>15739694

>nor should Alucard have been in it.

Anon is right. You faggots haven't even played the game. There are a lot of reason to criticize the show, but you are failing really hard at it.

>>15739738

>It only takes 20 years after a nuclear war for literal fucking dragons to start flying around according to Todd.

Ah, but you're forgetting about midichlorians FEV.

>>15739747

>There are a lot of reason to criticize the show,

Like the fact Trevor is a pointless protagonist when Alcuard is already in the story? And before another autistic subhuman mentions the game, I don't give a fuck what was in the game (and neither does the anime considering how much new shit it introduced), there's simply too many characters and plots going on for something that is only 12 episode long. Then again, considering that the three heroes spend most of season 2 in a library even 24 episodes would likely not have been enough for the shit writers.

Why even shill here? Do you think people are actually retarded enough to play your shitty game Pete?

>>15739765

>the story about the first time a belmont killed dracula shouldnt have the belmont in it

>>15739774

There's people retarded enough to buy this garbage, Mark chiefly among them.

>>15739765

How Alucard being in the story dennies Trevor from being the protagonist too? Did you never realized an story could have more than one protagonist, you fucking idiot?

>I don't give a fuck what was in the game

But I do, and that's how it was in the game. Despite all the changes that was one of the few things that the anime got right, but actually not quite, since Grant wasn't in the anime, something you'd know if you played the games, retard.

The anime could have worked if the writers weren't hacks and (((Warren Ellis))), but it's amazing you're complaining about the single thing the show more or less did right.

>>15739779

He's more likely saying that Alucard shouldn't be there, despite the fact that, you know, Alucard was there.

>Cuckolding looks like it could be fun, if you had a really nice sound proofed cuckshed with thick curtains.

>>15739801

More like

>Cuckolding looks like it could be fun, if you had sex with your wife, she was pure, and didn't take nigger dick with your recording the whole ordeal.

>>15739798

The thing that pisses me off the most about grant not being in the show was that hes the most used character in that game by most people, since its like playing with spider-man.

I bet he also would have been a banter-mancer.

Stilll, i enjoyed the show, i expected way worse things.

>>15737540

>>15737541

I only use the term so I don't have to type out "fallout 4's gamebryo" or "skyrim's gamebryo," because each of Bethesda's iterations of the engine tends to have its own peculiar ways of being shitty.

>>15739823

>because each of Bethesda's iterations of the engine tends to have its own peculiar ways of being shitty.

Considering the engine still suffers from bugs carried over from Morrowind I'd say they're all shit in the same way.

Also, I can't quite grasp the fact Bethesda will still use this turd for Skyrim 2 and Not NMS. I genuinely thought they were going to have the good sense to finally change engines for a project that far out.

Remember to report and filter /co/cksuckers who defend netflix shit.

>>15737483

>F76 looks like it could be fun, if it was a single player game.

No it doesn't.

>Anyways, anyone actually playing the game?

No one is.

>What do you think of it so far?

It's shit.

>>15739829

Oblivion introduced havok physics, which has a whole heap of problems in their games. Skyrim removed the ability to easily add animations in mods. Fallout 4 ties several things, including loading, to your fps. Each one has, amazingly, earned it's own brand of shittiness. Bethesda has somehow exceeded just carrying over the same problems, but adding more, as well.

>>15739839

>bethesda

>good sense

>>15739646

It was bank rolled and managed by netflix. It's no more an anime than boondocks or the old animated Lord of the Rings/the Hobbit movies.

fallout 76 is gonna be awesome tbh

>>15739842

Its fucking retarded anon, they could have just made him a random brigand/higwayman that ends up helping the party, but no, pretentius writers are too good and high on their own farts to have fun and do the game justice.

I still havent watched season 2, but tell me, do trevor and sypha end up together?

Because thats the canonical reason why belmonts can use magic afterwards.

>>15739856

Are you too retarded to read?

>>15739856

>>>15739842

>Its fucking retarded anon, they could have just made him a random brigand/higwayman that ends up helping the party, but no, pretentius writers are too good and high on their own farts to have fun and do the game justice.

>I still havent watched season 2, but tell me, do trevor and sypha end up together?

>Because thats the canonical reason why belmonts can use magic afterwards.

>>>15739856

>Are you too retarded to read?

>>15739938

THIS

https://archive.fo/ZMaYq

>a steelbook case to house the game's, er, cardboard insert of a download code.

>smells like cancer

>blurred vision

>cheap plastic

200$

>>15737483

> add in NPCs

But anon the other players are already the NPCs.

>>15739721

>cropping out the best part

Nigger.

>>15741046

ok reddit

>>15739709

PORN WHERE

>>15741234

>4000x5648

Where the fuck did you get that image? Every booru has the 752x1062 version.

>>15737483

10 bucks, there will soon be articles displaying a black female character and it will be about how not liking Fallout 76 is racist and promotes misogyny

>>15737483

>>15739940

>I still havent watched season 2, but tell me, do trevor and sypha end up together?

Wouldn't know, anon. I canceled my netflix before finishing it because I was sick of the fucking social marxism on it.

>>15742719

>>15742727

I want to see the child of Todd and Todette

>>15742729

See

>>15737626

>>15742745

Don't forget the bolt being on the wrong side of every single gun.

>>15742864

Alternatively, your retarded war vetaran character only finds lefty rifles and still holds them in his right hand.

>>15742978

Not really, most people seem to hate it.

>>15737483

>F76 looks like it could be fun, if it was a single player game.

The game looks too fundamentally fucked, honestly.

>>15742748

>tfw you'll live long enough to see Todd fired for gross incompetence

>>15743212

I am the only real person in the universe and you're all too NPC to admit it.

Any negative reaction to this claim only proves me right :^)

>>15739738

>m-muh mutations mutha fucka

>>15743062

It doesn't matter if they hate it if they go ahead and buy it anyways.

>>15742978

Didn't they already do that already in Failout 4? Like the VTOLs were just reskinned dragons or something?

>>15741234

Hello yes where do i put benis :DDDD

With a little more refinement and polish, Kenshi could be the kind of open world/survival/civ building game that FO4 and FO76 are pretending to be. The game is even close to FO1 & 2 in terms of gameplay style and presentation. If anyone feels compelled to try FO76 because the idea of wandering a wasteland and rebuilding civilization sounds fun, just try Kenshi instead.

>>15743547

>literally

>using the NPC meme

You forgot to also call him a 30 year old boomer.

>>15743386

They had the dragon flight patterns in the code somewhere, yeah.

>>15743562

why would I? Are you a cuckchanner? I mean, maybe that's what they would have done, maybe you're an expert on the subject

>>15743113

>firing the man that made Bethesda millions by selling the same game over and over again

Do you have any idea of the absolutely maddening profits this man brings? It doesn't even matter if F76 flops (which it will), they spent like 10 bucks producing it and the losses will be entire meaningless compared to the profits they make with everything else

>>15743128

It can be fun to rp but this is the lamest shit ever.

>>15743584

one good thing about this game is all the assets that will be ported over tbqh. I'm already digging that pip boy 2000 skin

>>15743562

The npc meme is applicable here. The only problem with it is overuse to the point of being uncreative.

>there are hundreds of thousands of people that have bought this terrible game just because they saw the words "fallout" and "Bethesda"

What a word to live in. Most people really are utter morons.

Game would of been great if they didnt nuke the griefing shit. I could spend all day duping mines and covering the entire game. I could make horrid traps and cause people to uninstall. There were so many possibilities to fuck with people until safe spacers cried.

>>15741625

It's bait you nigger

>>15743692

Lol fucking wow.

>>15743692

mad that I can't grow a beard while these fags can

I actually have a good chin I don't need to hide fat

>>15743776

Im mad that these faggots have an entire fucking food industry catering to their retarded bullshit because its "trendy".

>>15743800

>>15743386

>Like the VTOLs were just reskinned dragons or something?

FO4 Vertibirds follow the same flight patterns of Skyrim's dragons, including the hovering.

>>15744406

I think the idea that Pete Hines was going for was that "if it's a prequel, there's no lore. If there's no lore, we can do whatever we want without contradicting or caring about the previous lore!" which is an incredibly retarded way of thinking.

Crafting lore for the past involves caring about the present just as much as if you were doing something in the future just so you avoid creating paradoxes or contradictions in your story.

They don't much care about the origins of the Brotherhood of Steel, they just want the cool power armors in their game. Since it's a sequel, they can say they were present in any place they need the power armors to show up because "it's just another chapter we didn't knew about yet!"

In reality, they end up screwing the BoS story just as much as they did with FO3

They want cool new enemy types so the game isn't just the same as previous games and there's a reason to buy it, so they put different ghouls, those big large monsters and a few new others, and even that bat thing as the final boss.

In reality, the short time from the war does not justify the presence of any of these creatures and worst of all, why are they gone in Fallout 3\4? Why do we see Super Mutants and Deathclaws in 76 (despite Super Mutants only showing up on the other coast by the time of Fallout 1) as well as everything else, but only they show up in later games?

Were all of these freak abominations created by FEV and are sterile by nature? Did the Deathclaws and the Ghouls manage to drive them all to extinction?

No, it's just that Bethesda wanted the enemy variety without considering the implications of that. The interesting bit is that, if the game was set as a sequel, they could easily add new creatures that mutated or evolved with time, as well as everything they have in it, they really didnt want to risk a sequel again after the backlash FO4 got.

This is likely the explanation for no NPCs either. They don't want to risk having a faction show up that really shouldn't be there since their story would not show up in the next games, as well as not wanting to put fixed locations for raiders. Scorched do not need bases, raiders do.

That, or they really didn't want to record any voices for the game at all and they were hoping the players would end up being the NPCs, creating towns for other players to visit, which is incredibly stupid. Everyone knows players in these types of games make hyper isolated communities that anyone that's not friendly.

Fallout 76 is Bethesda doing the exact same mistake as Fallout 3, but in reverse: They want all the perks of making a story that happened in a different period than it actually did.

With Fallout 3, despite happening several years after 2, there's plenty of locations and events that only make sense if the world was a few months past the war.

With Fallout 4, despite being a sequel, there's plenty of things that only make sense if it had happened long before Fallout 4.

Thinking about it, either they really hate lore or they have a natural talent to fuck up continuity like no one else!

>>15743800

CHECKED

>F76 looks like it could be fun, if it was a single player game.

Fuck you and the Subreddit you came from.

>>15744502

>This is likely the explanation for no NPCs either. They don't want to risk having a faction show up that really shouldn't be there since their story would not show up in the next games.

They could have put just about any factions they wanted to create in the games and explained their lack of presence in later games as having been wiped out by a new faction or infighting or whatever. Instead, they actively fucked up an existing faction by putting them where they don't belong in a time that makes zero sense.

No, Bethesda wasn't concerned with boxing themselves in with new lore. They don't give the slightest fuck about Fallout or lore. The BoS is in 76 for the same reason they are in FO3 and FO4. Because Bethesda thinks in terms of branding, not in terms of narrative. If the went off and did something new on the East Coast, the "brand" of Fallout would be unrecognizable to the masses of mouthbreathing retards. Atmosphere, themes, tone… it doesn't matter if those are spot on. If it doesn't have power armor and super mutants and BoS and enclave and harold… then idiots won't recognize it as Fallout.

Bethesda didn't buy "Fallout", they bought all the branding materials so they could slap it on a generic Bethesda game and have an established brand to jumpstart their new franchise.

>>15744502

actually, V87 Super Mutants(The ones from F3) were around right after the war, and BOS does have the ability to move around pre war america via blimps(And humvees, if you consider tactics as canon). It's just that BOS expanding to west virginia doesn't make any sense. How

>>15744572

said, BOS needed to be in the game no matter what, because otherwise, the mouth breathing retards would whine about it. V87 supermutants actually make sense, they kinda took over the surrounding territories after the war, and are one of the reasons D.C never prospered, and WV isn't that far from D.C, the bigger problem are those dragon things. They don't make any sense, my head canon is that they came from another dimension via a portal or some wormhole, and they're actually just magical creatures, not even a FEV mutation. F76 is non canon, but if it would be, it would be an x-files/twilight zone episode where dragons from another dimension enter the fallout universe

>>15739641

When Bethesda says there will be bugs at launch what they mean is you're getting the Beta version of our game.

>>15743081

I missed that one, what did they copy pasta around?

>>15739709

Skyrim 2.0 confirmed (holy fuck it's sad when modders who reuse your assets make a better experience out of it than the actual developers)

>>15744502

That's Bethesda's problem, they're just creatively bankrupt, but worse they're arrogant. Their writers boast about not caring about the lore, the developers boast about using an engine that everyone else from layman to actually programmer say is absolute garbage in every regard compared to it's competitors. You have a marketing director who thought it was a great idea to play politics with another game, can't define what a Nazi is, and is a fucking piece of shit towards the costumers in addition to just being horrible at this job. Then you have an administration that has no clue what it's doing, who thinks games as a service is the future when their company hasn't produced a single multiplayer game that has broken even. On top of all this they decided to continuously just go about pissing off anyone and everyone they can. Bethesda is essentially EA without investors. Flooding itself with diversity as the company implodes around them with failed product after failed product.

76 is just the latest in that line and everything they did with it is fucked. It's not even a good looking game no matter what OP says. When the community honestly considered a mod to be the true Fallout game of the year and the official release to not be canon you know you fucked up.

I can't wait to watch Bethesda try to claw their way back out of this nightmare they've made for themselves. Short sighted greed that didn't even achieve the short term part.

>With Fallout 4, despite being a sequel, there's plenty of things that only make sense if it had happened long before Fallout 4.

Fallout 4's story was likely originally going to be a prequel to Fallout 3 and was in fact actually going to feature the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steal fighting the Institute ran by a person who was a mixture of the master meets the enclave ideologically.

Then they massively rewrote it, leaving half the shit from the original in where it barely makes sense and shipped out that piece of garbage to have it sell worse than New Vegas.

>>15744572

I wouldn't attribute to malice what is easier to attribute to the fact Bethesda is staffed by arrogant retards who don't know the industry anymore and are instead flooding themselves with creatively bankrupted Diversity hires.

>>15744583

They could have made sense, but the way Bethesda implemented them they absolutely do not. FEV research before the war was quite advanced, they already produced Death Claws under the project and could perfect humanity turning us into Ubermench if they so desired (that line was cancelled because of the wa ha ha levels of evil in the government). Dipping people into vats doesn't guarantee they come out a super mutant. It took the master years to perfect the process as most turned into abomination or freaks.

Nothing Bethesda has done works or even is remotely credible in the eyes of the continuity. At this point everything on the East Coast is just not canon.

>>15744594

F3 and even 4 aren't too bad as far as lore is concerned, it's interesting to see how each region developed. Even in F3, BOS kinda makes sense, since the midwestern BOS is a thing, and even if send by original west coast BOS, all the tech in washington is certainly worth an effort to retrieve it, at least

That tidbit about F4 is interesting tho, it would make a lot more sense if the game was a prequel and the BOS was the midwestern branch, not the lyons branch, and that would also explain the institute, and why in game they're just a bunch of larping neckbeards who jerk off to synths. Any source on that one, tho?

>>15744590

Does anyone have that comic where the guy says "patches will fix it" and "It's a beta"

So I learned in F76 you can esentially have infinite ammo and items

>Get good stuff

>Have friend PvP you

>let friend kill you

>He gets your stuff

>You respawn with your stuff still on you because of babby PvP

>Fast travel back to friend (have him enter and leave building if possible to update your position)

>repeat

>Enjoy infinite ammo and items as well as money

>>15744619

I don't even own the game, someone told me how PvP works and what happens, I just put 2 and 2 together

>>15744603

>F3 and even 4 aren't too bad as far as lore is concerned

No.

In Fallout 3 you have Little Lamplight and Big Town. These are nothing but tropes pretending to be world building. Little Lamplight is the worst offender, considering how it only makes sense if the war happened a year or less ago and these kids were stranded in a cave when they took shelter from the bombing with their teachers.

The BoS being present in Fo3 could be acceptable, their behaviour can't. Knights in shining armor are not what the BoS is but that's what they are presented as. Why? Because Bethesda can't make a game without using black and white morality and an organization of elite warriors to join (The Blades, BoS) to save the world.

Even the GECK was a McGuffin done wrong. It's shown in Fallout 2 that the Geck was a suitcase of seeds to replant and restart civilization, not a magical device that can "create life", which even if it was, using it as a water filter has got to be the dumbest thing ever.

Contrary to most people, I get the idea about that game's plot being entirely surrounding the water purifier. It's a nod to the first game where water plays an important role to hook the player and the factions aren't all "fighting to turn it on", they are fighting for controlling a very important asset that can ensure supremacy over the DC wasteland and beyond.

However, it's still a cookie cutter black and white story with the option of being a dick because "violence is funny ahah" and it takes the entire central plot of the game when in the first, it was but the first hook into something far more serious.

It violates the idea of what the GECK is, it paints the BoS and the Enclave in a completely wrong way and it doesn't even make sense, considering Megaton's water purifier or even Harold.

Fallout 4 is even worse, the Insitute alone takes the fucking cake here.

>>15739190

>indentured vidya servants

It is genius in an evil bastard sort of way.

>>15744610

If that is true, your friend could drop everything he took from you so you could duplicate it and increase the amount of shit you have exponentially.

>Die with 10 bullets and 1 pistol

>Respawn, friend gives me back my inventory

>Die with 20 bullets and 2 pistols

>Respawn, friend gives me back my inventory

>Die with 40 bullets and 4 pistols

Anon, please tell me you are joking because otherwise someone could mass "produce" fatman and nukes to go around nuking everyone and everything for shits and giggles. All it takes is to do this next to a container so you don't even need to physically move to store shit after you are done duping crap.

>>15744650

Again I don't own the game, I was just told a few moments ago how PvP works

Technically you could mass produce fatman, repair them as best as possible, sell those and rake in money off the mininukes and launchers.

>>15737542

67 total reviews, paid shills and mods removing the "toxic" ones and still a 1.87 score, they're fucking serious this time aren't they? Glorious.

Its hilarious to watch Bethesda squirm because of Fallout 76.

All people wanted was Fallout with co-op. That's it.

All they had to do was make a new Fallout game and add super basic co-op features to it, something akin to the co-op from Dead Rising 2.

Instead, they took a decrepit engine that was in no way designed to support large, multiplayer games and made a complete fucking mess. They removed everything Fallout fans like about Fallout games–story, characters, interesting quests–and thought they could satisfy people with smoke and mirrors.

Their incompetence is on full display.

>>15744594

>I missed that one, what did they copy pasta around?

"To be fair you need a really high IQ to understand rick and morty" copypasta.

>>15744630

In fallout 2 the "holy GECK" was a joke, because you were a tribal with no real world knowledge and they send you for this ancient artifact called "Garden of Eden Creation Kit", Shitizen One explains its contents to you, fuck even intro or user manual for Fallout 1 or 2 does it

>pen with a flashlight

>assortment of useful grandfather seeds

>small nuclear reactor and some fuel

>encyclopedia on multiple tapes with useful info to rebuild a civilization

it's as if bethesda launched fallout 2 once, got the cutscene "find the holy geck, save village" and that's the extent of their lore

>>15744688

I'm willing to bet it was originally planned to be DLC for 4 but got turned into its own game when everything they shat out for that piece of shit was panned.

>>15743800

Nice but why don't you check mine?

>>15744628

Not unplayable, although it certainly wasn't great. 76 is looking far far worse.

>>15744688

It's funny that there's plenty of older games that show how to properly do this.

Dying Light has co-op where you can have up to 3 friends join you to wack zombies and parkour around to help you. Once a cutscene starts to play, everyone sees it from the character's perspective and they can even fast-travel to whoever started it as well. Quest progress is decided by the host and that's it.

Dying Light is the simple way to add co-op and literally all they had to do for Fallout 76.

Then there's MGSV. The multiplayer aspect of it has players invading your Mother Base and, if they are detected, you get a warning and you can come back to deal with them.

Since you can build bases in FO76, have the other players fast travel to some point that lets them "raid" other players base. They show up near them and can either sneak or go full combat. If they are detected, you get a warning and the option to fast travel in order to defend your base.

MGSV is the simple way to add base-defense to the game.

Or they could just do the most obvious thing and pull off a Dark Souls here, which would make for great marketing, with the "souls experience".

Players get a flag or some other device that let's them raid/invade other players. As long as you have it on, when you travel to an area, you might be placed in a server instance with the other player and able to engage in PvP. Should you win, you're sent back to singleplayer but a corpse of the other player shows up with half his caps and ammo as well as whatever weapon he was using at half the durability it was. Meanwhile the other player loses everything the invading player got.

To counter this, you can turn on a beacon on your Pipboy to signal for help and anyone in the nearby regions gets an alert on their own Pipboy that lets them fast-travel to you and assist in defending yourself. Should you win, the reward is the same but split evenly with anyone that assists (but you keep the gun)

There's more that could be done with that, but it's the simplest way of adding raiding and cooperation to the game, using a meme idea from a much older game. It solves and handles the PvP quite nicely, it's a tested and proven formula, it even prevents griefers from fucking shit all day long.

The hubris of Bethesda has got to be astronomical for them to completely ignore the entire market around them, chock-full of simple ideas that are proven to work but instead to use the "live service" model that has been shown to be unpopular as fuck.

>The end game content

AHAHAHAHAH

IT IS INDEED SKYRIM YET AGAIN! This is Skyrim: Fallout Edition after all! Just jump tp 17:47 if you don't want to watch the rest of the fuck ups.

The funny thing is, the bat doesn't have a tail, but it has forearms so it's just about as much of a dragon than Skyrim's wyverns were.

It also has breath attacks, can land and use it's wings to strike at you and everything.

This isn't just copy pasting from Fallout 4, they also gutted some of Skyrim to put here as well too. Bethesda is so creatively bankrupt that it's not enough to put the Enclave and Super Mutants on the same game despite coming from different sides of America, it's not enough to mirror real life racial issues with Androids and the Railroad movement, it's not enough to rip off Minecraft and Rust, they even have to ripoff their own previous games in entirely different IPs in order to have any kind of content!

>>15743800

based

My problem with Fallout 76 is the same for many other sandbox games. (rust, minecraft, etc) Namely, that there isn't a real reason to fight with other players outside of being a dick. All the resources that matter (ammo, food, crafting materials, and weapons) infinitely respawn, and pvp is discouraged since all the goodies you get off them can be acquired easily elsewhere without the penalty of pvp.

Here's an example of what I want. Imagine in fallout76 there being a in game town where a laser weapon factory survived and was functioning. Players that hold the factory would get access to higher quality weapons then they would find in the waste and effectively infinite ammo. But they wouldn't have to just hold it, they'd have to keep it powered and maintained. The power plant would be on opposite end of town, and both would need maintenance through basic crafting crap you could only find outside of town. An player ran town may form around this factory and interesting shit might happen. Roleplaying might actually happen. The shit EVE players enjoy, without having to play the complicated mess of EVE.

And fallout is rich for things like that. Vaults, Nuka-cola factories, farms, and water deposits. Most games like this have fun craft able objects like chairs and furniture that nobody builds because no base sticks around. There either destroyed by bigger players or abandoned for better bases.

>>15739709

I wonder if Bethesda knew that people were joking about and making up rumors that fallout 4 would have nuclear shouts and mutant dragons and didn't realize it was meant to make fun of them, and not an indication of genuine desire.

>>15744594

>holy fuck it's sad when modders who reuse your assets make a better experience out of it than the actual developers

Hasn't this been the case with Bethesda for over a decade?

>>15744937

Is this the new crowbcat?

>>15745558

>Audiologs can be up to 7 minutes.

Fucking why? Pete Hines doesn't have the ability to READ, so why make them this long? Does he need the white noise to play games?

>>15745666

I guess it's to make up for the lack of a radio or conversations.

>>15745681

That doesn't even make sense.

Can it be even "guesstimated" how many sales FO76 did?

>>15745686

That doesn't make sense in the example situation you've given us, though. With that logic, a person listening to the radio while driving means their IQ will degrade. A person and his friendly colleague having a chat while doing their job would degrade their IQ. A man exercising while listening to music means their IQ would degrade. There must be more to that metric than you're letting on.

Aaahahahahahahah.

How do you fuck up THIS bad?

>>15745700

Yeah, that's exactly what happens.

Breathing and looking also degrades your IQ.

You're getting dumber every second.

>>15737490

I legitimately had way more fun with FO4 than any other Fallout game I've played. Settlement building, crafting, and dungeon exploring go hand in hand in creating everything I've ever wanted in a game. It might be a really rare opinion, but I'm genuinely speaking from my heart that I want FO5 to improve upon FO4 instead of any other FO game.

>>15745681

>>15745686

But what about people with ADHD? They literally can't spend a second in their life without multitasking. There are always multiple things going on in their brain no matter what they do.

>>15743562

Read the article you dumb-dumb.

>>15745940

First multi-tasking itself is a myth that no human can achieve, what people think is multitasking is just their brain rapid switching it's focus between each task. This is actually worse then just autistically honing your focus onto one thing because anything beyond skill-less labor always ends up with poor results because it demands your attention.

For stuff like driving it can be fatal.

Second people with genuine ADHD, and not just an excuse for your Mom to milk money off the latest craze "problematic" children are diagnosed with, are prone to autistically focus on one thing exclusively over anything else if they're genuinely interested in the subject. Which goes against the hollywood image people have about them.

>>15737483

>F76 looks like it could be fun, if it was a single player game.

So Fallout 4.

>>15745219

That actually makes me kinda frustrated, because it sounds like a game I would really want to play. It would be fun to play in paradise, rather than another nuked out town. In a lot of ways, F4 felt like something F3 needed to be in the first place, but with the RPG mechanics gutted out, would love to play in boston where the institute already won

What do you mean by the "Old Man" tho? Only played the main game at launch, the only other time I ever fired it up was to try out the mods and RP as a raider warlord, since NW let me, so I didn't bother with the main quest

So has anyone gone online with a pirated version and griefed people with hacks? Seems like it could be fun for a bit

>the goal of F76 was supposed to be all about the players

>provide little to no player agency

>24 player limit

>cant form factions

>the goal of the game isnt even about rebuilding society and seeing which faction/clan do it the best and sustain it

>all this lore raping for no reason

This is baffling beyond belief. You would think this would be a lot more sandboxy but youre even more limited than in F4. They could've easily just allow players to come up with their own factions and can easily explain as to why they arent in the future with something meta as we just wont stop killing eachother.

They could've just made this as an Expanded Settlement game with a multiplayer mode. This game is a sandbox without the sand. So many design choices are just laughably bad like why the fuck is the map even fully revealed?

And to think they could do something with the Pipboys like having a phone functionality to them so you could actually call people in-game.

>>15746508

biggest insult to injury was that F4 already felt like an MMO from the get go, just without the MMO aspect: Most of the quest were already generic, and the main driving point wasn't the story, it was crafting and getting the +1 sword and shield to kill the orks faster. And then, they did the unthinkable and fucked up the actual MMO mod, they can't do anything right

West Virginia is actually a great setting for a fallout game, but we will never get to explore it properly now

>>15745831

>this is 60 dollar AAA game from a big developer

>not a survival crafter unity asset flip from nobody on steam

The fuck.

>>15746508

>as we just wont stop killing eachother.

Anon, bethesda writers can't understand the logical implications and meaning of

>War never changes

>>15746387

>multi-tasking itself is a myth that no human can achieve

>rapid switching it's focus between each task

Of course multi-tasking lacks focus, but it's multitasking nonetheless when the brain processes different things at once.

>This is actually worse then just autistically honing your focus onto one thing because anything beyond skill-less labor always ends up with poor results because it demands your attention.

>For stuff like driving it can be fatal.

I can confirm both. I have experienced both. Been in several crashes and I can't stand any chore or studying alone without listening to music. ADD multitasking as an advantage is a myth. However, my IQ has never dropped despite my tendency to multitask and rapidly switch focus ever since I was a kid, so I think your theory is a myth as well. Maybe it only applies to normal people with depression or electronic device and video game addiction.

>are prone to autistically focus on one thing exclusively over anything else if they're genuinely interested in the subject

Partly true, but not very much. ADD in particular makes you daydream almost nonstop unless you actually REALLY like and are engaged by what you're doing, which is quite rarely the case with most daily activities like labor jobs. Yes, they hyperfocus, but mostly on their daydreams and engaging activities instead of the task they're supposed to do.

>>15737510

The fallout 4 engine is shit too though, they need an actual new fucking engine.

>>15746940

hacking is piss easy, probably a modder

what the hell is there to do, anyways? game looks barebone as fuck, literally nothing you can't do in F4, except now you have to deal with other chucklefucks trying to take it from you, might as well make a deathmatch shooter or BR out of this

>>15737483

>f76 looks like it could be fun

>if you cut that cancer out

>cut cancer out

>no game

It's a huge tumor on life support. There is no healthy tissue left.

>>15746940

>Fallout 4 uses the same engine as Skyrim

It's shit then, why bethseda doesn't update their engine is beyond me. It's utter trash, buggy, looks awful and feels fucking weird.

>>15746963

Elder Scrolls 6 (Skyrim 2) will use the same engine but 'updated'.

And probably won't come out until 2024 or some shit like that.

>>15746967

>updated

If it's updated in the sense of the skyrim remastered then it'll be just as bad but with minor graphical improvements that aren't worth the time.

>>15746979

They are stuck with bugs from the Oblivion version because no one knows wtf is going on in that engine's code anymore. They literally cannot fix it. At this point it looks more like they're sticking to it due to some pathological levels of sunk cost fallacy.

Bethesda hasn't just been using the same engine since Morrowind, they've been making the same game over and over and cashing in on it every time. Bare minimum effort, formulaic design, and hype marketing is their philosophy. Exhaustion is setting in amongst their fans though.

>>15746953

>what the hell is there to do, anyways?

Not much, but what makes it stand out among other DayZ clones is there's no constant need for resource grinding. Yeah, I prefer modded FO4 for now.

>>15746963

Because they've been developing Starfield since 2012. FO4's and 76's production became half assed due to Starfield, and they're not using the new engine because it was yet to be ready to use.

>>15746967

All they're saying is however different the new engine is going to be, they'll still use a similar editor.

>>15746979

>>15746984

Skyrim remastered doesn't use a new engine, only a better optimized creation engine with tacked on post processing effects. It's still named creation engine. Bugs from Oblivion still stay because despite all of the whole rendering and post processing overhaul they've did for the engine, the havok AI animation and behavior from Oblivion is still used. They hadn't changed the way the engine loads NIF files too.

In the future it might change, but up to Skyrim they didn't feel the need to update the data loading and animation system yet. Fallout 4 and 76 simply used Skyrim engine because another game that's taking a decade to develop was in the works, 4 and 76 were made to fill the gap between the release of Skyrim and Starfield.

>>15746987

They're not just remaking the same game, they keep dropping more and more gameplay mechanics that made the predecessors somewhat salvageable. F76 is basically the lowest common denominator in game development, like someone who didn't understand anything about game design picked up Morrowind game design document and dropped all the concepts he couldn't understand. Bethesda has no competence or talent left, except liars.

>>15746999

To be fair, 76 has slightly better RPG mechanics than 4 because you can modify more of your attributes when you level up, and Todd has always said that this game was going to be utterly broken at launch, he's been saying this since E3. Every feature in the game like 24 players and anti griefing mechanics have been explained by the E3 conference and numerous interviews far before the BETA. Bethesda has never told a lie about this game, unlike their other releases in the past.

>>15745692

It didn't even chart the top 20 in preorders.

>>15747091

The only thing they have in common is the NIF file loading bruh. Bethesda does have to move away from this slow and flawed game data loading system. I believe this is the reason Starfield's engine can't be used on their current games, they're trying to change the core system.

>>15747106

>Shortly before the release of Fallout 4, while Bethesda Game Studios began development of Starfield and downloadable content for Fallout 4, what is currently Bethesda Game Studios Austin (at the time BattleCry Studios) was tasked with modifying the Creation Engine to support multiplayer content in preparation for the development of Fallout 76. In conjunction with id Software (like Bethesda Softworks a ZeniMax Media subsidiary), BattleCry attempted to integrate id's Quake netcode into Fallout 4's engine, considered a challenge even by experts in the online game industry.

<considered a challenge even by experts in the online game industry

It's a huge project for all the wrong reasons. They did the impossible (and useless).

>>15747157

>homophobic slurs

>at women

Wait what?

>>15747473

>"Look at all those faggots playing as women."

>>15747473

Maybe he was bitching about lesbians. They're homosexuals too.

>>15747510

Fuck off, Hitler, you're dead.

>>15746430

Holy shit, I see this kind of physics bug happen since Oblivion. This bug is older than most of Bethesda's fanbase.

>>15745831

Reminds me of a dream I had a few nights ago. Everyone around me just goes T-pose and I carry on like its normal.

>>15743114

>my network is protected anyway

Unless he's running in a virtual machine, the game has full access to his computer. It would probably be trivial to use an exploit and install malware on another player's computer.

Literally Morrowind with guns made by a bunch of modders

>>15747707

No. Morrowind by modders is more competent.

>>15747713

And has stable multiplayer.

>>15746912

>>15747371

>>are prone to autistically focus on one thing exclusively over anything else if they're genuinely interested in the subject

>Partly true, but not very much. ADD in particular makes you daydream almost nonstop unless you actually REALLY like and are engaged by what you're doing, which is quite rarely the case with most daily activities like labor jobs. Yes, they hyperfocus, but mostly on their daydreams and engaging activities instead of the task they're supposed to do.

What in a mundane life is really worth focusing on anyways?

>>15741046

Almost subtle.

>>15747706

>hurr durr what is toddposting

>>15747707

Morrowind is leagues better than this dumpster fire.

The worst part is that the lore is kinda good, minus the retarded lore breaks like with the brotherhood. Lack of NPCs is actually explained well, and the map looks pretty fun to explore. Even in it's current state, I would love to play it if it was ported over to F4, lack of notable quests or NPCs don't make a difference when the main attraction is the environment and the map, altho adding in factions, NPCs, quests and other things would also be easy due to it being the same engine

It's disappointing all of this is shackled to a POS multiplayer game, the product as a whole is a soul less cash grab, but you can tell that in a few places, someone tried

>>15748082

>someone tried

no they really didn't

>>15748117

am I on cuckchan? What kind of post quality is this?

There is quite a few locations that are good, actually, that's why I'm upset it's tied to this shit game. Lore side, it's interesting what happened right after the war, we didn't really get this kind of exposure in the other games

>>15748514

he's just an edgelord on cuckchan, he thinks shitting on everything will make him a le ebin shitposter

game is shit, nobody is denying that, but that makes the little parts of it you might find all over, that are actually half decent(With location and lore behind them and what not) that much worse, being tied to such a piece of shit

>>15748571

>From

>>15748577

I'm not, I just always wanted to see something like this, and bethesda did it in the worst way possible, and it's pissing me off

Remember to report and filter cuckchan.

>>15748651

There are no dragons in Skyrim.

>>15748571

>edgelord

fooling no one, redditor

>>15747713

>>15747769

Never claimed it to be better

>>15748651

>center the story around dragons

>proceed to make them a randomly spawning sponge with retarded AI

>make not a single one be a fun and interesting fight; literally just charge in with a two hander or shoot a thousand arrows into it until it's dead

>make their drops be fucking shit you won't even bother picking up after the first two times

>make the entire story around them so stupid and forgettable that even shitty fetch quests manage to outshine it

>"You know what our customers want in the next Fallout? That's right, the dragons from Skyrim!"

Bethshit managed to degrade dragons to annoying pests, and then proceeded to push that abortion into Fallout. Fucking hell

>>15747028

>Bethesda has never told a lie about this game, unlike their other releases in the past.

That you know of yet. We're all expecting them to pull a bait and switch. Before you know it card packs are monetised.

>>15748651

>EPIC! Can't wait for Skyrim 2 if this is Todd's vision of the future!

Skyrim 26*

>>15761664

Even Mass Effect Andromeda wasn't this much of a fall off.

>>15737483

Just make it a coop game that isn't versus.

>>15737483

>F76 looks like it could be fun, if you removed the whole thing and replaced it with a different game

Quality thread, OP.

>>15760449

>fallout 36

>fallout 26

>fallout 16

>fallout 6/100

BRAVO TODD

>>15737483

single-player fallout 76 would just be fallout 4

and fallout 4 isn't very good

>>15738189

ESO is not really a success. A guy in my guild yeah, I play it. Sorry made some calculations based on the number of ESO+ subscribers, and got to the conclusion that they made around €650k/month euros from that alone. Which is fine, but not really MMO numbers. I assume you could double that quantity if you take into account premium currency sales, games sales and expansion sales, but it's still not even close to big MMO numbers.

Besides, ESO kinda "works" because they tacked on MMO mechanics on top of a TES base, which means you spare yourself from the terrible gameplay and get a just acceptable combat system instead. Game still suffers from a lot of piss poor gameplay decisions, like designing the whole game around being a sustain burst DPS (solo content is piss easy and painfully slow as a tank, tanks and healers "suck" in PvP because their skills are nerfed in there and because they made the stupidest fucking decision of giving kill assists only if you deal a certain % of damage to the enemy without taking into account very necessary CC or buffs you give to other players, raids are designed so you have one or two tanks, two or three healers, and between seven and nine DPS… the only thing that's cool is that, since 90% of players are DPS, finding random dungeons is quick), a real fucking shitty store mechanic, an overuse of bound items, or a dumb ass "morph" mechanic which assumes you are looking at a guide to know what kind of stuff will a skill do once you level it up, but at least the questing is marginally more fun than in a regular TES game, so I guess that's the reason it gets a pass.

>>15769876

here we go with THE FUCKING FLAG AGAIN

>>15744937

>Video removed

Holy shit, hold me lads

Anyone downloaded it?

>>15737654

https://dynasty-scans.com/series/teppu

its not porn

They had such an easy job. Make a standard Beth Fallout game but with co-op. Maybe PvP too. Their incompetence and engine is why F76 is such a shitshow.

>>15775391

The funny part is that they would have made more money if they just released $10 co-op add-ons for Skyrim and FO4.

>>15775421

They're still incompetent. Even if they did that add-on, it would still likely fall apart because of the dated engine and their shit tier programming. They need to invest in a new engine and team to make it work because Gamebryo is two decades old at this point.

>collect junk

>scrap for material

>make ammunition

>waste on bullet sponges

>repeat

Oh, and we also severely restrict your stash space, so you are forced into this cycle like a little idiot hamster. Following this direction, the endgame boss is just a huge bullet sponge to eat up everybody's ammunition so they can go scavenging more.

You know a game is irredeemable when you can already see the seams and threads by watching someone else play it.

>>15775710

>This means they need to hit that "well it's crap, but it's fun with these wacky mods!" point ASAP, because that's their only business model right now.

They even tried to force the "meme game" angle with that stupid Rick and Morty stream. The problem here is the base game is irredeemable. It's not just bare bones, or full of bugs, or even just moderately disappointing. Nobody can look at this and say "yeah, I think with a few touch ups and some upgrades here and there we'll have something good".

Imagine you bought a car. It's not a particularly good car, but it still has all the car bits and it gets you to work and home every day. This car has a huge after-market modding scene though, and lots of people go around adding new wheels and turbos and superchargers and gauges and shit to it. Now imagine someone tries to sell you a car that's "supposed" to be modded with after-market shit. The car comes from the factory with 3 wheels, no windows, no seats and a completely 100% plastic body shell. How many people are gonna even waste their time on such a piece of shit joke?

The point I'm trying to make is – no matter how much everybody hates Bethesda games, all of their previous RPGs were at least games out of the box. Some of them were even competent enough that people recommend you play them through vanilla first, then mod later. Fallout 76 is a failure beyond any of the other failures, because the base is so bad I can't imagine anybody seeing any sort of redeemable platform in it.

Dare I ask-

Is this shit worse than FFXIV 1.0?

>>15775710

The toddler and crew are so egomaniacal they probably think people mod their games out of some love or obsession for the games and not in desperation to squeeze at least a smidgen of enjoyment out of the turds.

>>15776152

Fuck yes. FF14 was mostly unfinished and poorly planned out while this is like they didn't even attempt to start.

>thinking anything from Bethesda is good

Kys nigger

>>15776152

Yes. Though I do think it would be funny if they rebooted it in the same way

>>15776152

Much worse. FFXIV servers could hold more than 24 people.

>>15776379

>the first excursion into the West Virginia wasteland was an unmitigated disaster

>everyone returns to the vaults and they nuke it all over again to try again

>Fallout 77 takes place 100 years later when they reopen the vaults again

>>15747707

If only. That'd be great.

>>15775486

They copied all that crafting stuff from a New Vegas mod as well.

>anyone actually playing the game

The fact that you're even asking this is proof that you do not belong here

>>15737483

>F76 looks like it could be fun, if it was a single player game. Cut that cancer out, add in NPCs and quests, and you got a beautiful word and some great visuals

Not really dude. The game is ugly as fuck, the shooting is awkward and the game is too shallow.

There isn't a good game buried under all the bugs and glitches, it's flawed from the core.

>>15749474

The lore in Oblivion is really weird, the reason it's like a European forest and not a jungle is because people didn't like how dank and wet everything was so Talos changed it and made everybody forget.

TES lore is fucked.

>>15800588

>expansions aren't canon

This isn't Diablo 1. And it was developed by the main studio too, by the same people.

>>15800605

But that's a lie, because the Imperial swine you escape Helgen with mentions that as a child he used to hear stories about dragur crawling out of their crypts and attacking passerbys at Bleakfalls Barrows. That would have been 25~30 years before Skyrim. There's also a whole book (''Amongst the Dragur") where a mage lived with a pack of Dragur Gorillas in the Mist style for almost a year and studied their behaviors.

Maybe the Dragon Priests only resurrect when the Dragons returned, but the Dragur have always been around, and only a subset of them are attached to Dragon Priests. Just like not all Zombies are loyal to Mannimarco, but some Zombies serve him.

>>15800588

Expansions are canon in TES I'm afraid.

>>15800564

True.

oops wrong thread, enjoy the video about apples though

>>15746421

The Old Man is the only name given to the real controller of the Institute. From his description and inferences I would guess he was intended to be a cross between the Master and Enclave ideologically.

He is referenced in Kelloggs memories twice, once when Shawn was a kid as a highly manipulative person who always has contingency plans. The second time is later as he is apparently still head of the Institute, but during this time period Shaun is head of the Institute.

My best guess is his goals were simple. He was tired of watching the commonwealth rise and collapse in on itself time and time again. He wanted to advance humanity which is why Gen 3 synths exist. They are intended to replace humanity or at the very least guide humanity through manipulation. If this was the original script everything the Institute is doing suddenly makes perfect but horrific sense. They would view themselves as central planners of a new society.

If they kept the Institute above ground a lot of the story would have made more sense as well, but what's sad is they're so incompetent they missed the obvious solution to their narrative. Your spouse being a synth. Imagine waking up fighting through some rad roaches and finding your spouse alive, saying how she woke up and needed to find healing from their gunshot wound. She'd claim she had amnesia from the cryosleep. When you run into codsworth, she'd stay behind and talk with him and then suddenly regain some memories. She'd push you to get to diamond city, comment on your journey and even infidelity if you opted to. Then when you get to the Institute Shaun your wife is the synth. That would have mind blown so many people. Desdemona should also be a psychotic rouge synth manipulating the railroad to her own ends.

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>>15809600

>English apples

>>15809672

Literally everyone expected the player character to be a synth because right when you get out of your sleep pod there's a skeleton in front of it. I'm kind of impressed how Bethesda didn't go for such an obvious twist.

>>15809718

They wouldn't do that because the game was aimed at the soyboy market with its blatant daddy issues stuff.

>>15737483

It could be fun as the trash fire it is now if they:

>fixed the bugs

>made pve, pvp and pvpve servers

>allowed for several large sections to build several towns made by the actual players

>allow these player towns to colonize settlements and establish trade routes so you're actually conquering the world around you with others

>raiders need to be brought back as npc's there should be raids by them on player towns often to encourage this

>pvp servers let you raid other towns for resources

>add some npc's that are still alive to vary some of the quests and add something to the fucking world

>make the towns nuke immune so there's an actual incentive to build, raids won't do that much damage so rebuilding isn't from scratch

>allow for respecs because high level players pointed out if you don't plan out your shit before leveling you're basically fucked post level 50

>keep level limits only for items that are traded to you, remove these for dropped items

>allow clan formation

>add shit that's actually difficult to kill besides the skyrim dragons

This is all they needed to do to make FO76 SOMEWHAT fun, but they fucked it up royally and can never fix it.

>>15746963

>their engine is shit

Their engine did nothing wrong, it's literally because bethestrash doesn't know how to code shit onto their own fucking engine, vid related

>>15744688

The hilarious part is watching how bethestards are suddenly fucking terrified for ES6 and Starfield after seeing this shit go down. Updated engine also means they're not actually going to scrap the trash they built on for 20 years and thus these games WILL have the same bugs as morrowind and fallout. If one of these releases at the same time Obsidian tosses out The Outer Worlds, they're fucked because they'll have a space rpg made by a company that can actually produce something of worth.

>>15748082

It's better than Fallout 3 and 4's lore that's for sure.

>>15816139

In other words if they made an entirely different game.

>>15816139

That's literally an entirely remade game. Also they should throw out the card system for levels it's crap.

>>15737483

>A shitty game could be fun if it removes all the shitty things

Gee, I what a genius, why didn't I think of that?

>>15836293

>all that hand work is done by machines now, so now we still get cut and bruised fruit for less cost

And no jobs.

An online focused Fallout game was never going to work without having the factions we've grown accustomed to in them. And having PvP not be fucked if Bethesda or whoever they decided would make the game had the balls for it. If you wanted to be someone on the wrong side of the law with bounties on their head, or a raider of some kind, or part of some similar lawless faction, Bethesda's version of PvP in Fallout 76 simply wouldn't ever work. You have to be able to shoot someone freely, which would mean if you go out in the wilderness alone you acknowledge the risks of going alone away from the hub areas or vaults.

I mean what did Bethesda think would happen when they gave everyone a world that was barren content wise, with no humans or NPCs to give you things to do or some direction, no factions to make it easier to group up and fight battles or ongoing conflicts in real time? What did they think would happen shipping a broken mess that was basically early access with no content? What did they think would happen having the game set so early in the Fallout timeline with no established settlements, narratives, factions, etc. to be involved with?

>>15737483

>you got a beautiful word and some great visuals

Sure you do, Todd.

>>15746922

I bet that's what your body looks like when you get inside power armor.

>>15842374

it is, there's a bug where the power armour doesn't show and it fucks up the models

>>15745725

>fire all your competent developers

>replace them with shitskins and women

>cut corners with QC and hope modders will fix it

That's how you fuck up this bad.

>>15842374

>I bet that's what your body looks like when you get inside power armor.

100% true yes. Todd's game is broken.

>>15744603

In 3 they make sense but not as BOS. Like their motivations and split makes sense as a new faction but not as the existing faction they're supposed to be.

>>15816139

I'm sick of people acting like the engine is fine.

Nobody says the engine is to blame for the poor coding and bad game design, they're blaming the engine for being extremely outdated. Even playing a modern Gamebryo game just feels awkward, and that isn't something exclusive to Bethesda.