[–]▶ 8125bc (9) No.15706614>>15706748 >>15707289 >>15709126 >>15718663 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]
Just 100% 1.0 version of AM2R.
I can only be angry at Nintendo for being such huge faggots, out of touch niggers, that they DMCA'd this lovechild of respect and autism.
What a lovely little gem, not perfect, but damn if it wasn't a nice game.
Gameplay is tight as shit, there is fanservice and great atention to detail everywhere, and the only weak point in my opinion is the sometimes lackluster AI of Metroids, specially Gamma and Omega, that once you get past the initial "oh shit" moment and learn their pattern, the threat kind of falls off quickly.It's neat that Samus gets launched if she gets hit by them, as annoying as it is, it's a really nice touch, just like when the Gammas catch you and zaps your shit
Seems that the game was built with speedrunning in mind, as I've seen a lot of speedbooster/shinespark shortcuts around the levels.
Having played both the official remake and this fan remake, I'm kind of inclined towards the fan remake, for a number of reasons, those beings 1- better new bosses and boss fights (The Tester was some fun shit compared with the also round Excavation Robot that gets annoying as fucking shit really fucking fast) 2- Chozo infrastructure is better fleshed out and more in-universe, and more believable shortcuts rather than magic bird teletransport (And simpler approach to how you can go deeper inside the planet because of tremors like in the original, not because you collect Metroid DNA to pass through, that shit's all but fucking retarded)
All in all 8/10 great game, music is the weakest part of it, but far from a deal breaker, would pay the dude that made it 15-20$ for the effort and love put in it.
I've seen there is a 1.4 version that is created by the comunity. I think I might want to test that one out.
Also, general Metroid thread, discuss Metroid games, how Prime 4 is never coming out (it's been two fucking years since it's announcement and we got 0 info on it) and post tubes.
▶ 8afd9e (2) No.15706707>>15706729
AM2R was the final straw for me
▶ aafe7c (1) No.15706729
>>15706707
Mine was pkmn essentials. Fuck Nintendo. I'll only pirate from now on
▶ a33cd1 (1) No.15706743>>15706771
>not posting a dl for the free fangame am2r
faggot magnet:?xt=urn:btih:71c3dbdf9d7962c0cf359bea43ec99c8948ecac5&dn=AM2R_11.zip&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969
▶ b3e0a2 (1) No.15706748>>15706771 >>15706774 >>15706785 >>15706795 >>15706820 >>15707979 >>15708637
>>15706614 (OP)
>I can only be angry at Nintendo for being such huge faggots, out of touch niggers, that they DMCA'd this lovechild of respect and autism.
You are legally obligated to protect your IP if you wish to retain the right to protect said IP under US copyright laws. How about you fangame fucks STOP RUNNING YOUR RETARDED CUNT FUCKING MOUTHS IN PUBLIC BEFORE THE GAME IS FINISHED?
▶ 8125bc (9) No.15706771>>15711074
>>15706748
Hey, at least the game 'was' finished and it will forever be on the internet, as per >>15706743
kindly provided.
>You're legally obliged to protect your IP
Sure I guess. You could also understand your costumers better, evaluate if this small group of autismos is doing a good job, and I dunno, contact them, negotiate like "we will help you finish this and we will sell it digitally, you get a cut and may even consider hiring your worthy ass for a future project"
Maybe know how a fucking fanbase works and give them what they want. Instead of overpriced plastic toys for unlocking energy tanks or what have at you, bundle up your official game with the fanmade game, announce it properly, and make it some kind of hidden content, or fuck bloat the price a bit more, I know I would have bought the damn thing.
I don't know, there must surely be a more pleasing way to do this rather than completely alienate those that actually spend money on your shit.
But they will cave in and remove a fucking feather out of G&W because das raycist
Fucking niggers
▶ 9e23f4 (4) No.15706774
>>15706748
this game was at least finished and uploaded by the time the C&D hammer struck, but yes fangame fags need to SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT and finish their games before bragging on all forms of social media and various imageboards.
▶ 6c6c25 (2) No.15706785
>>15706748
>You are legally obligated to protect your IP
That only applies to trademarks, ya dingus. Trademarks can only be infringed through commercial use (the remake was non-commercial). They also disclaimed any ties to Jewtendo, so it's not like they're misleading people. Finally, Jewtendo fired a DMCA, which is concerned with copyright infringement, meaning Jewtendo are absolute dicks.
if you're going to spew unfounded bullshit go somewhere else.
▶ 420850 (4) No.15706795>>15706804
>>15706748
sure, but Nintendo didn't need to be dicks about it either
▶ e457d9 (8) No.15706799>>15706817 >>15706871 >>15707289
Is it better than the 3DS remake? Haven't played either.
▶ e457d9 (8) No.15706804
>>15706795
Eh. The game was complete and out there by the time the C&D was issued. They can't ruin anyone's fun this way. You can get it if you want it.
▶ 8125bc (9) No.15706817
>>15706799
It's different. I'd say play both (even better if you do after beating the original title)
They are both good remakes if you ask me. There are a few new mechanics in the 3DS one, while the fangame just puts already existing shit on the game and gives it more polish.
Frankly, and considering it's been done by a small group of people, the fangame is at least as good (if not straight up better in some aspects) than the 3DS title.
▶ 64c902 (1) No.15706820>>15706927
>>15706748
You're confusing a trademark with copyright. Nobody has ever lost copyright from fan works.
▶ cdfc2d (1) No.15706846
I can't really blame them in this case, considering they had their US team working on a 3ds remake of the same game
▶ bcca71 (2) No.15706871>>15707800
>>15706799
MSR for 3DS is really solid, and Nintendo did nothing wrong against AM2R. Guy blatantly stole their IP…wtf. He could've just reskined it and sold an original game, but he was too dumb to think of that
▶ e457d9 (8) No.15706878>>15706887 >>15706985
It would be nice if all companies were cool, but the moral indignation when a company decides to act like a company rather than a charity is a little naive, to say the least.
▶ ec87c0 (2) No.15706887>>15706890 >>15706902
>>15706878
How does not being an ass make you a charity?
▶ e457d9 (8) No.15706890>>15706904 >>15706910 >>15706913 >>15706955 >>15706981
>>15706887
>3DS remake of Metroid 2 in production
>fan remake drops out of nowhere
>be cool, and potentially lose profits, or shut it down hard
What do you expect a company to do?
▶ e457d9 (8) No.15706896>>15706985
Even Sega, who are cooler than most with fangames, will shut down full remakes. That's money they could lose flogging rom compilations. What do you expect them to do?
▶ bcca71 (2) No.15706902>>15706981 >>15706985 >>15707001
>>15706887
switch the roles
>guy makes good indie game by himself, Axiom Verge
>EA decides to just steal it and make a sequel, Axiom Verge 2: Microtransaction edition.
>sells like opium in China
>original creator gets upset, sues them for theft
>WOW WHY YOU MAD BRO?!! DON"T U WANT GAMERS TO BE HAPPY?
▶ fe2cd5 (2) No.15706904>>15706908 >>15706965
>>15706890
>Nintendo was working on a remake before AM2R dropped.
▶ e457d9 (8) No.15706908>>15707219
>>15706904
Most likely. You don't announce a game the second it's greenlit, and it was shown pretty shortly after AM2R. Just because we hadn't seen it yet doesn't mean it didn't exist.
▶ ec87c0 (2) No.15706910>>15706912 >>15707207
>>15706890
You are overestimating the reach of a niche fangame. By issuing the dmc they achieved the opossite effect. Hell, they did nothing at all since the game still exists on the internet.
But, you know, the lawyers need some excuse to justify their salaries.
▶ e457d9 (8) No.15706912
>>15706910
I'm not saying Nintendo's leadership aren't autistic old Japanese men who don't understand the internet.
▶ 8125bc (9) No.15706913
>>15706890
Be clever, make a publicity stunt (Our fans are great, look at what they did just because they love OurThing! Thir work is gonna to pay off, so we announce the FANPACK that will feature both gaems!), sell both games, fans are happy, you get double the money.
I don't think this is such an impossible idea, and more seeing they are making a solid game out of your IP.
Instead of looking like a complete ass, you look like a magnanimous ass, that's still making cash out of someone elses work.
Is that such an impossible scenario?
▶ 6f8cc8 (1) No.15706927
>>15706820
>You're confusing a trademark with copyright
That's the entire point of the term "Intellectual property". It's a term the kikes made up so they could conflate trademark law, copyright law, and patent law, to ruse people who don't know any better into thinking that they all share the exact same set of laws and that there's no difference between the three concepts, since they're all (((intellectual property))). Then they use the confusion to spread disinfo like that retarded bullshit about losing their copyrights if they don't defend it just because that's how trademark law works.
▶ 420850 (4) No.15706955
>>15706890
>fan remake drops out of nowhere
>AM2R
>out of nowhere
▶ 8125bc (9) No.15706975>>15707027
>>15706965
The AM2R fangame was developed for 10 years, so the development started in 2006.
Samus Returns had a 2 year development cycle, so it started circa 2015.
▶ 6412f8 (4) No.15706981
>>15706902
That's not accurate at all, though. AM2R was not making any profit.
>>15706890
>fan remake drops out of nowhere
It was in development for around a decade. It didn't "drop out of nowhere."
▶ 6c6c25 (2) No.15706985>>15706998 >>15707438
>>15706878
>when a company decides to act like a company
You mean like a jew? Being upset at jews is the opposite of naive.
I'd understand if every fangame download literally withdrew money from their bank accounts, but that's not what happens.
>>15706902
>switch the roles
I wouldn't give a shit. At worst I'd be disappointed at the huge megarcorporation which has more than enough resources at their disposition to make its own games for copying fans working on their spare time. The point is, telling people what games they can make, modify, or play is unacceptable.
The only thing in your comparison I'd be upset about is EA whoring out another franchise and milking it to death with microtransactions, but that's another issue entirely.
>>15706896
>Even Sega, who are cooler than most with fangames, will shut down full remakes
Then explain how the Sonic 2 HD remake didn't get shoahed.
▶ 6412f8 (4) No.15706998
>>15706985
>Then explain how the Sonic 2 HD remake didn't get shoahed.
The Sonic '06 PC remake hasn't been shut down, either, and they've been very visible.
▶ 420850 (4) No.15707001
>>15706902
AM2R is free.
AM2R is made by a single man because the big corporation stopped making games for this specific portion of its audience.
AM2R was made to be good and faithful to the Metroid franchise.
You can't just "reverse the roles" in a situation like this, dipshit.
▶ 327e2c (2) No.15707003>>15707070
How do Japan's laws work out that they allow fans much more freedom with doujins, fangames, etc?
▶ 4f0885 (2) No.15707027>>15707054
>>15706975
Yeah, and he said "before AM2R dropped", which is true. AM2R released in 2016.
▶ fe2cd5 (2) No.15707054
>>15707027
Yes, my disbelief was at the claim that the official remake was already in production; and not simply shat out in a year to save face since a fan did it before they thought of it.
▶ 9db8a0 (2) No.15707070>>15707084
>>15707003
Japan as crazy laws, to the point you can't rent games.
▶ 327e2c (2) No.15707084>>15707172
>>15707070
I know about that. I'm asking, how exactly do their copyright/trademark/etc laws work out that gives fans much more freedom with derivative works?
▶ 9db8a0 (2) No.15707172
>>15707084
Well, knowing stuff like not being able to rent games I would say lack of enforceability.
▶ 816e81 (1) No.15707207>>15708967
I think it's a discouragement thing. Go after th big popular fangames to discourage others from making and distributing them. If enough fangames get big and popular, they know they're bound to lose at least some sales. Notice how much attention even small shit like that Unity Bob-Omb Battlefield get.
>>15706910
>niche fangame
You mean the niche fangame mentioned in every single fucking review and playthrough of Samus Returns?
▶ a8061f (1) No.15707208
▶ f5003d (2) No.15707219
>>15706908
You do if it's to save face
▶ ef8b65 (1) No.15707224>>15709073
Retro Studios hasnt made a game like since 2014?
what the fuck are they doing, ITS BEEN 5 FUCKING YEARS
▶ beca59 (3) No.15707229>>15707251 >>15707368 >>15708967
I have this shit downloaded for fucking years now.
How does it compare to other classic metroids?
I absolutely fucking hated Fusion, does it have the same linearity, amount of cut-scenes and SO MUCH PLOT I wanted to vomit?
Fusion is where metroid died.
If this shit is anything like that it can burn in fucking hell.
Zero was ok. Good graphics and good controls, but way too much story and way too linear.
Super is easily the best fucking metroid there is, with only problem being unannounced point of no return.
How does AM2R compare?
▶ 8125bc (9) No.15707251>>15707260
>>15707229
There is little to no story. Besides the intro cutscene that's inspired by Super Metroid, you only have a "Scan function" that's automatic, but doesn't force you to read the results of the scan at all (Can read them in the pause menu)
I'd say it's a mix of Zero Mission with Super. Don't expect to be blown away, but it's a pretty decent Metroid game.
If you have it already, why not give it a try?
▶ beca59 (3) No.15707260>>15707268 >>15707316
>>15707251
>If you have it already, why not give it a try?
Because I have unlimited video games and limited times. I would rather play I know what's good, rather than something dubious.
>inb4 posting here
I only spend time here when I can't absolutely play games, only shitpost.
>There is little to no story. Besides the intro cutscene that's inspired by Super Metroid, you only have a "Scan function" that's automatic, but doesn't force you to read the results of the scan at all (Can read them in the pause menu)
>I'd say it's a mix of Zero Mission with Super. Don't expect to be blown away, but it's a pretty decent Metroid game.
Sounds like shit worth playing. I'll give it a roll on this weekend.
▶ 8125bc (9) No.15707268>>15707278
>>15707260
You can finish it in 4-6 hours so that's not that much of a timesink.
I myself found it to pick up after you finish the first area, the golden temple.
Have fun anon.
▶ beca59 (3) No.15707278
>>15707268
Shit son 6 hours of fun is a bliss.
6 hours of shit is a fucking curse. Fusion was such curse, I still hate myself for not dropping it in the first 2 hours, like I usually do.
If it's at least as good as Zero it won't be so bad.
▶ 9e23f4 (4) No.15707286>>15707411
>>15707282
>never once mentioned Samus Returns
▶ 3fa150 (1) No.15707289>>15707355 >>15707471 >>15707868
>>15706614 (OP)
I made the mistake of playing AM2R because of anons hyping it over Samus Returns. It's a short, dull fangame that's not particularly fun. On part with any Megaman fan game.
Don't shill it out of proportion. Sell it like a love letter made with lots of elbow grease, but don't be a jew about his merits - the very few of them.
>>15706799
No. It starts off with the worst levels of the bunch, you get overpowered very soon, and the whole goal of the game is to play repeatedly the same miniboss (yes, you heard that right).
It's not a turd, there's lots of work behind it. But you can see the usual forum bullshittery in the devs who suggest it over the official games.
▶ f5003d (2) No.15707316
>>15707260
>Because I have unlimited video games and limited times.
People say this, but I don't believe it. The number of playable video games out there is strictly limited. If you only have a couple hours a day then fine, but if you are NEET or nearly-so, you're time quickly outstrips the available games if you actually play them
▶ 8125bc (9) No.15707355
>>15707289
Is it dull really?
It makes you backtrack a bit too much at two certain points, but I think it's serviceable and enjoyable in the way it's, as you said, a love letter with lot of attention to detail and lore, and how the guy in charge decided to interpret it.
It kind of feels a bit incomplete, but i guess there is no much you can do about it. I'll have to try the aforementioned 1.4 version and see what it brings to the table.
▶ 3155ff (1) No.15707368
>>15707229
As long as you keep in mind it's a remake of Metroid 2, an inherently linear Metroid game, it's fantastic.
That said, the more you progress, the more you realize just how much thought went into the level design. With a more traditional Metroid game flow he could possibly outdo Super's map.
▶ bf82d2 (1) No.15707411>>15707446
>>15707286
Roblox memes were never funny, redditor.
▶ e457d9 (8) No.15707438
>>15706985
>Then explain how the Sonic 2 HD remake didn't get shoahed.
Pretty sure it did, at least for a while. Streets of Rage remake definitely got shut down.
▶ 9e23f4 (4) No.15707446
>>15707411
>ur reddit
Never once touched that shit you cuckchan newfaggot.
▶ d0c998 (1) No.15707471
>>15707289
That's because megaman classic is inherently shitty, play rosenkreuztillette instead, gameplay is a mix of classic, x and zero.
▶ b72c9b (3) No.15707519>>15707707 >>15707794
any remakes of the first metroid? love the soundtrack but hate the nes soundchip
▶ f4d32d (1) No.15707610>>15707868
>>15707282
I sure do love that fan made Streets of Rage 2 remake fans were making. It's a real shame Sega fucked it up, and didn't even bother releasing their own. The GB version of Metroid 2 is the best one, fight me.
▶ 9e23f4 (4) No.15707707>>15707786
▶ b72c9b (3) No.15707786
>>15707707
gba one? fucking even worse soundchip, but cheers anyway
▶ f5557c (1) No.15707794
>>15707519
Play the FDS version
▶ 28adf2 (2) No.15707800
>>15706871
Fan games are made out of passion for the original. Just making it it's own thing defeats the point, you don't wanna make just a metroid-like game, you wanna make a Metroid.
There's also the matter of resources, some work is already done, so you can use it to make something else. It's a way for some people to get into making their own products by getting familiar with something else.
▶ 28adf2 (2) No.15707868
>>15707289
Fun is subjective, but it has everything that I want out of a Metroid game, and does it well.
>explore around
>deepest lore and atmosphere
>power ups n shit
>"whole goal of the game is to play repeatedly the same miniboss (yes, you heard that right)"
It's like Metroid 2 or something. You leave out that the remake adds more bosses and shit. That doesn't change the goal but it mixes it up a lot more.
>>15707610
>The GB version of Metroid 2 is the best one, fight me.
You're gay and therefor wrong.
▶ 8afd9e (2) No.15707979
▶ aef382 (1) No.15708449>>15708485 >>15708521
How to hate the game in one easy trick
▶ 48566e (1) No.15708501>>15709383
>>15707159
Anal Milfs 2: the Return
▶ 6d182e (1) No.15708521
>>15708449
what do you have against sleep-aids anon
▶ ccfe87 (1) No.15708637>>15709141 >>15709444
>>15706748
There is nothing wrong with this post and those that disagree with it are niggers.
AM2R, along with all fangames, is unrequited trash.
▶ 6412f8 (4) No.15708967
>>15707207
>You mean the niche fangame mentioned in every single fucking review and playthrough of Samus Returns?
The only reason that even happened is because Nintendo took it down. Most of those reviews and playthroughs only mention it because Nintendo took it down. They gave it more attention that it ever would have gotten, had the game released without a hitch.
>>15707229
>Good graphics and good controls, but way too much story and way too linear.
>an intro dialogue shorter than Super's, a few, incredibly short cutscenes, and a single monologue are too much story
>not knowing how open Zero Mission really is
Zero Mission is intentionally designed to be beatable with less than 15% item completion. Two of the endgame images can only be unlocked by doing that. The game has a ton of hidden shortcuts and passages.
▶ bf2857 (1) No.15709073>>15711018
On the topic of Metroid 2, does anyone else here like the simple overall objective of the game?
>Kill all Metroids remaining on planet SR388
Is there any other game with a main objective like this of extermination a set number of enemies hidden throughout world?
>>15707224
Working on Starfox Grand Prix Outside of porting DKTF to Switch which I assume would require a smaller team to do.
I wish they were working on Prime 4 (but I think most of the old MP team is gone) but having Tanabe at the helm of MP4 with a new team and his comments about making something challenging like MP2 but with time travel is probably good enough.
▶ 642ac3 (1) No.15709126
>>15706614 (OP)
>I've seen there is a 1.4 version that is created by the comunity. I think I might want to test that one out.
Do it, Fusion mode is great
▶ 8305da (1) No.15709141
>>15708637
How's that corporate cock taste?
▶ b796c3 (1) No.15709398>>15711140
>ledge grabbing
Good riddance to casual faggot rubbish. Zero Mission should not have been the template with which to construct a Metroid II remake.
▶ 000000 (1) No.15710971>>15711009 >>15718434
Favorite suit, anyone? Light Suit here.
▶ 5b3e23 (2) No.15711009>>15711018
>>15710971
> fav suit
Phazon. I dig the black, grey, and red colour scheme since it reminds me of the NES and Hitler-chan
▶ 420850 (4) No.15711018>>15711061 >>15730767
>>15709073
any WWII while playing as the good guys
>>15711009
call me a boring sob, but I really like first stage PED suit from Corruption
▶ afd982 (1) No.15711038
Dark samus does things to my dick and i don't know why
▶ 5b3e23 (2) No.15711061
>>15711018
I like PED1 too. it's got a nice blocky retro sci-fi feel to it. But I especially like the third piece of concept art with the more angular design, which hearkens back to Samus' original power suit form without the spherical pauldrons.
▶ 18bd9d (1) No.15711074
>>15706771
>I don't know, there must surely be a more pleasing way to do this rather than completely alienate those that actually spend money on your shit.
Thing is, as a society we (or normalfags at least) have basically been raised by the Jews to think corporations are our friend, helped further by memories of good times and good games they made. They don't want to abandon them because of peer pressure or misplaced sentimentality and those that do become displeased either sit down and take it/crack and come crawling back because they can't let go of their memories/bullied by loyal fans for daring to question. Or are too minuscule a demographic to actually hurt the company. Such as /v/ unfortunately
Because Companies see that normalfags are willing to continue giving them money en masse regardless of what they do nowadays because of what good they did before, they have carte blanche to Jewishly maximize profit and buttfuck consumers because they have a "Soyboy Safety Net" of battered housewives who will excuse, defend, and/or financially support the corporation in all regards.
In other words, why go the extra mile if you'll be paid the same regardless? Not like Passion pays the bills.
It's probably a minor reason why nostalgia is the name of the game nowadays, and why they kill ROMs to sell to you later. To remind their cattle/introduce Newfags to the Good Times under their (((new-age))) terms.
▶ 98cea0 (1) No.15711140
>>15709398
You can turn it off on the Suit menu, like you could turn on and off upgrades in Super Metroid, if that's more your speed.
▶ 95d71a (1) No.15718434
>>15710971
Light suit is for plebs.
▶ 033140 (1) No.15718663>>15730797
>>15706614 (OP)
>and post tubes.
>and post tubes.
>and post tubes.
▶ f1c005 (1) No.15730767
>>15711018
>any WWII while playing as the good guys
Any there others?
▶ 845701 (1) No.15730797>>15730901 >>15730931
>>15718663
<we can do it!
>posting feminist images
▶ 6412f8 (4) No.15730901
>>15730797
>war propaganda encouraging women to take care of the homestead while the men are off fighting, like nature intended
>feminist
▶ 450930 (1) No.15730931>>15730979
>>15730797
>WWII posters thought up by men to inspire women to go farm while other men fought.
>Feminist.
What the fuck are you on Anon?
▶ d84696 (1) No.15730979
>>15730931
Homelanders tend to have a terrible sense of history.
Did you know that the model for that poster quit after a few days to get a job as a skin cream model?