/v/ - Video Games

>>15687354

Daggerfall or Ultima Underworld

Japanese games are better 9 times out of 10, even back then. Fucking westaboo.

>>15687372

The recent influx of cuckchanners derailing threads with shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the thread sure makes me glad there's a filter option.

Dynamite Headdy

I'm going to get shit on, but Fallout 4's map actually has a lot of cool, unmarked things to find. The rest of the game aside from the gunplay is incredibly mediocre but the world is nice to explore.

I don't play it anymore, no bully.

>>15687354

Disappointed

>>15687362

Far off, but you're closer to correct

>>15687466

Bethesda's world is always immersive and nice to explore despite what the fags here might say. All they lack is the fundamentals of NPC writing and quest design.

>>15687701

>apocalyptic wasteland

>generic fantasy

Cant be that hard to mess up, Todd.

>All they lack is the fundamentals of NPC writing and quest design.

Will fallout 76 get around this by having dynamic quests only and no NPCs?

Darksiders 2 is a personal favorite. Great music and environments and the dungeons are fun to go through.

>>15687852

It had glass breaking, ice melting, and water evaporation mechanics.

>>15687701

Too many skeleton gags in their environmental storytelling. Other than that they're alright.

>>15687454

My brother.

Dark Souls 1 and 3.

Stalker SOC of course, hell I wish there is button to sit with fellow stalker around the campfire after a mission.

>>15688226

Too bad the gameplay pulls you right out of the immersion.

>>15688398

Oh, and New Vegas also had a quite sensible map layout. I used Oblivion as a comparison because it's made by Bethesda too, but F:NV may be a better example of an overworld done properly.

>>15688403

>completely empty desert

>0 content means it's done properly

Fallout 3 had actual dungeons to explore and cool ruins. New Vegas only had a long road filled with Deathclaws.

>>15688473

So you never played NV

>>15688483

I fucking hate that cover art and the 2 add on it still doesn't fit with the Star Trek rip off title of the original.

ME2 is probably one of my favourite games

>>15688483

>>15688508

ME2 had issues but it still had soul and it hurts that we'll never have a Sci-fi RPG like it again.

>>15688501

Says the guy who never played Fallout 3 properly.

>>15688508

>>15688514

That cover art was always shit tier lol

But yeah, ME2 was something special. Too bad they never made a sequel or a spin-off series.

So much potential…

>>15688226

>visual detail in the world was top fucking shelf

Either my standards are too high or you retards are very easily impressed by low-res textures, shitty draw distances and pre-rendered reflections.

>>15688766

>clunky

get lost mate, deus ex is smooth, it runs on the unreal engine

>>15687701

My problem with Bethesda's open world games is after you play one of them, suddenly the magic is gone for all the others. You realize it's a big empty box with set pieces dropped around it. It always pales in comparison to a smaller game where everywhere is handcrafted. The only happy medium between large open world and hand crafted ones I can think of is Stalker.

>>15688940

It's bait anon.

>>15688940

The aiming is pretty clunky

>>15688950

>it's bait

sorry bout that, but I'm feeling in a perfect mood to defend Deus Ex after trying the 'predecessors' SS1 and SS2. I'm probably going to be dissapointed by Thief if I try it.

>>15688517

The best way to play it is not to play it, you're right Todd.

>>15688253

What is it with all these weak-tummied fags getting queesy from a little headbobbing? Have none of you ever tried running or just fucking going for a jog in real life?

>>15688950

Stalker is an utterly linear game. If that's your reason then open ended games are just not your cup of tea.

>>15688967

Nah, of those games Thief is the best.

>>15688995

"Utterly linear"

Just like most of real life.

>>15687898

Never forget the fact that shooting sacks of flour makes a pile on the floor prior to the suitable technology existing. It was animated just because.

>>15688967

Thief is actually pretty good. Controls better than DeusEx even and the world itself is pretty nice.

>>15688995

>Stalker is an utterly linear game.

Utterly is too strong a word here. In Shadow of Chernobyl, once you're at the bar, there's plenty of areas open around you to visit instead of a direct one.

Call of Prypiat has only 3 very large areas to which you gain access in a linear fashion but those 3 areas are quite huge and essentially an open world in themselves. It's not so much linear but rather that you unlock another world to explore as well.

Besides, there was that mod that fuses the world map of all 3 games in a perfect combination for an open world game. Dunno how stable it was.

>>15689031

It's kind of like calling GTA3 linear because you unlock each island in a specific order.

>>15689031

Call of Chernobyl, the mod you're referring to fuses all the areas into one big world map and adds a few extra, plus some cut content on top of that. Stable isn't a good word for stalker but it's really popular and very playable if you like having a completely open world experience with almost everything unlocked the moment you start off.

>>15687701

Fuck no.

>>15689234

>video

I haven't laughed so hard in a while, thanks Anon.

>>15687334

>literal muh immershun thread

Just rename this place 8reddit.

Immersion is a byproduct of good gaming, not something that can be developed specifically. That's why everyone who tries that, ends up with a bad game with lots of superfluos details.

>>15689234

>blah blah blah muh details

>blah blah blah muh subjectivity

>bluhbluhbluh muh cyberpunk 2077 isn't a generic dystopian futurism game

>trusting jewtubers

Fuck him, Oblivion is immersive for little things within the game like this.

>>15688536

>something special

specially shit you mean

>>15688753

It's a small map

>>15689031

Stalker is utterly linear because the upgrades are very linear. In Elder Scrolls, you can acquire endgame gears without actually doing the main quests. Yep, the mod you're referring to is Call of Chernobyl, it's pure sandbox. It's not the only sandbox stalker mod out there, even stalker fans dislike the linearity of their favorite game.

>>15689139

But you could kill anyone and do highly difficult side missions before completing any main mission.

>>15690943

GTA 3 is smaller and 4 isn't much bigger.

>>15688967

>I'm probably going to be dissapointed by Thief if I try it.

Maybe. Thief 1 doesn't pull any punches with its world at all. It is mystical, dangerous, and some sections are closer to an adventure game than a stealth game. It is very rough around the edges. In Thief 2 they watered it down a bit so it's more closer to pure stealth. It honestly reminds me a ton of sneaking around in Deus Ex since it's all about medieval robots.

>>15688995

>If that's your reason then open ended games are just not your cup of tea.

It's not that at all. It's Bethesda's random generating algorithm. I would rather explore tunnels and forests in Minecraft than a Bethesda game. Something about their level design. It just feels so empty and lifeless.

>>15690953

>In Elder Scrolls, you can acquire endgame gears without actually doing the main quests

doesn't it all scale with level? shops and loot doesn't have end game items until youre end game level

>>15687765

>no NPCs

the game still has NPCs, just not humans.

>>15689234

the reason this is stupid is because this motherfucker based his entire opinion on a demo that he was shown. something he never even played. that pretty much ruins everything he's trying to say. he doesn't actually know if the game will be any good. he's essentially saying he was more immersed in a movie than a video game. sounds to me like maybe video games just aren't for him.

>>15691145

You mean someone would really make a demo video full of lies?

>>15691090

In Morrowind, no, everything has a fixed place. In Oblivion, you can grind by exploring dungeons and training to level up faster than doing the quests. In Skyrim, you can grind your smithing skill anytime you want and craft daedric gears.

Red Dead 2, its the autism outlaw sim I always wanted. It just needs some Ned Kelly armor to be perfect and a Hardmode though. Better than Ultima 7 if you know what I'm talking about. And before any boah goes on about the kneecap shots since that's the only thing crowbcat has on this game. They do make them limp and grip the wound. I've been testing it, I shot a guy in the shoulder and he was holding that while limping from a leg shot. Sometimes they flee screaming and stumble, dropping their gun and roll in their own blood from the squirting out wound. Most shotguns can blow limbs and heads clean off, and they give out a good scream too. There is a whole internal organ system and that goes for animals too. Its like R* actually watched crowbcat video and then went overboard just to spite him.

>>15691158

Fucking ubisoft, that shit should be illegal

>>15690953

>Stalker is utterly linear because the upgrades are very linear.

This is a faulty reasoning because you're changing the definition of "linear" as it suits your argument. We were talking about map exploration but you're now shifting it to upgrades instead.

Yes, you can grind XP\Fame in Elder Scrolls games to get better versions of loot but the progression is still linear. Iron->Steel->Orchish->Ebony-Daedra for Heavy Armor for instance.

And it's not like any of your "upgrades" in any Elder Scrolls actually open up parts of the game, they just provide you better statistics to improve your odds in combat. In that case, it's almost as linear as a JRPG with the sole exception being Morrowind that lets you "sequence break" this if you know the game well.

However in terms of "linear vs open" world, while TES remains the clear winner in this regard, Stalker does not stop being an open world game just because the weapons you find in an area are inferior to the next ones or because there's a requirement of a main mission before you can unlock more of the world, especially considering how large the areas are.

Short list that came to mind without reading the shitposting or even the OP's qualifications.

Shadowgate 64

Arx Fatalis

Blue Stinger

Skies of Arcadia

Thief

D2

Shenmue

Way of the Samurai

Anachronox

Freespace

Homeworld

StarTopia

Nocturne

Gabriel Knight

Soul Reaver

Gothic

Silent Hunter

SWAT

Alone in the Dark

Mystical Ninja

STALKER

VtMB

SHoWW2

FoW

MoW

OFP

ARMA

Mark of Kri

Kengo

>>15693039

Haven't touched it since ~2013. I've heard it's lost its wheels.

>>15692902

You're confusing open world with nonlinear game.

>the progression is still linear. Iron->Steel->Orchish->Ebony-Daedra for Heavy Armor for instance.

That isn't linearity. Those just denote the quality of the gears the player uses. The means to acquire those gears aren't restricted by the game's events, only by player's capability (and the characters' capability when the gear availability is tied to the player's levels). The method of grinding in Elder Scrolls games in particular is incredibly open ended compared to most other RPG games. You can choose to grind through combat, repeated skill use, training, or crafting valuable items for Skyrim's instance.

Compare it to STALKER. You can't get the power armor without following a specific sequence of quests in specific order.

>>15687334

>deus ex

more like deus I spill my drink ex

>>15688514

>mass effect 1 comes out

>good game with some questionable gameplay but amazing story and atmosphere to most areas

>mass effect 2 is similar but more combat oriented

>mass effect 3 is just a tps

>andromeda

webm related

>>15695503

That picture is bullshit. They stole that 3rd element from DeviantArt.