380189 No.15675388
real talk: what if it brings back interest in rts's and a solid mod community that makes entire free campaigns that put any neoblizz warcraft 4 ideas to shame?
Last time around this lead to the entire cancer of mobas. With more in depth tools, thirsty as fuck rts enthusiasts and fantasy horseshit what levels of autism could we be talking about here?
efcdcc No.15675399
>what if
Won't happen. Not under Nu-Blizz.
1ae063 No.15675422
>modern blizzard
expect microtransactions up the ass, gimped map maker and retcons to match WoW "lore"
380189 No.15675424
>>15675399
Thats the question tough isn't it. This is the tools being the big deal rather than the remaster of WC3. How do you censor or stop custom games and campaigns from being shared?
Can you imagine if someone makes some "heres my fan fic that happened instead of the story of WoW" style thing and its more popular than WC3 and played by more people? could the current writers be any saltier than that?
7b01b9 No.15675434
NO
GO FUCK YOURSELF MARK YOU DIRTY KIKE
4b0c09 No.15675435
sc2's mapping community was left to die by blizzard. I have no hope for wc3 reforged.
11b0d5 No.15675452
>retcons to match WoW "lore"
This was actually confirmed in the preview.
380189 No.15675463
>>15675435
I remember it being touted as 'the future of rts content creation' and after a few horde mode/tower defence maps doing the rounds it died. Granted nobody gave a fuck about memecraft 2 but i expected it to last longer.
>>15675452
>he thought they would leave the campaign alone.
Gotta compare arthas to FFFFFUCKING DRUMPH you silly goose!
8f641f No.15675710
26b76b No.15676071
>>15675388
Thanks for letting me know, I already pre-purchased the special edition.
7a34c7 No.15676102
>Warcraft 3 Reforged
What the fuck is this.
What the fuck are they doing.
212034 No.15676116
>>15675388
>what if it brings back interest in rts's and a solid mod community
Nope, Blizzard has made it clear that they absolutely do not give a fuck about the mod community. Did you forget that they completely destroyed the custom map scene for Starcraft 2? They'll do the same thing for Warcraft 3-2
26b76b No.15676117
>>15676102
The made a warcraft 3 remaster, like we've been memeing for years now. They warned us not to do it, that we needed to meme responsibly, but we never heeded the warnings. We didn't listen to the prophecies.
26b76b No.15676125
In other news they've announced some delicious goth loli for their ASSFAGGOTS brand.
380189 No.15676147
>>15676117
Chaos magic always comes at a price pepe san.
70231e No.15676156
>>15676125
>expected to release by 12/31/2019
Waiting this long for a game that is going to be garbage
380189 No.15676160
>>15676125
>you've already purchased warcraft 3 reforged
How much money did blizzard make in an hour?
7a34c7 No.15676194
>>15676117
>they're going to use the butt-ugly SC2 engine
>they're going to reuse WoW assets for this
>Blizz may very well have stolen the halfway finished SC2 into WC3 fan project and turned it into a product
>it's just going to divide the community even further
Fuck those giga-kikes, Warcraft 3 did not need a remaster, the game was fine as it was.
This is just greed on steroids.
3db3ba No.15676228
>>15676194
>Warcraft 3 did not need a remaster
Blizzdrones have been begging for it since the SC remaster was announced friend.
630b80 No.15676242
>>15676228
Blizzdrones aren't people.
7a34c7 No.15676254
>>15676228
Fuck those retards too.
And a special fuck you to reddit and the fool who gave them back the Starcraft source code which set off this whole chain of events.
I can't believe I actually liked that company once.
202043 No.15676307
I'd be somewhat exited if
>it wasn't modern Blizzard
>they weren't going to use the cancerous cuckcore art style that plagues vidya
645dd4 No.15676332
>>15676194
>>they're going to use the butt-ugly SC2 engine
I don't think they are. It looks like they're just reusing WC3's engine and they just upgraded it.
There was a group of fans that already made their own Warcraft mod for Starcraft 2 and it looks way, way better
55946b No.15676362
>All these people tolerating this obvious crap
>autists think it's okay for them to take back an active old game, re-customize it, and re-do the graphics and swap around with it. It's suddenly okay to just revise old games and ignore making new content like a Warcraft 4. No, instead you gotta tread back on an old gaming community, a finished product that everyone bought, and start changing it – this is okay, nobody has problems.
<wait until years from now. they are going to take gaming classics and revise them. they are finished products. Who cares? Gotta get cha-ching and push the autists out of older gaming communities because fuck them. Fuck them for not realizing this slippery slope that's afoot.
This is just faggotry, anons. You don't remake a game already finished and done. You don't drive off an older gaming community. Some of us want to play Warcraft 3 in peace. Then faggot nu-Blizzard needs to shove its cock everywhere and now annoy the oldfag community. Is there no escape? Seeing even one anon just accept this crap makes me want to vomit and kill someone. This is going to be a long slippery slope of destruction. Revising and taking apart old games to make them more "modern" is going to be a terrible practice. Just wait and see, /v/. It's about as bad as the on-set of DLC cows. It's as bad as micro-transactions. It's been a frothing kikery coming around for a while now and I'm worried about it.
7e0577 No.15676369
>>15676332
I hate this. People either shit on wc cartoon style or don't care. I think that the low poly stretchy look gave character to wc3 and the fact that styalistic choice could have just as well been governed by technical limitation tickles my fancy but now that we no longer have those limitation I refuse that they follow with this style.
70231e No.15676375
>>15676332
If they were doing that why will it take more than a year to put out?
7e0577 No.15676383
>>15676375
Pajeet work slow.
e61ad4 No.15676391
>>15675388
>>15676332
>art style dead in a ditch
>everything looks like it's made out of clay
>inoffensive slop of a color palette
It's like they're trying to visually represent the gradual neutering and watering down of their Warhammer Fantasy ripoff.
I hope this bombs and increases traffic for W3.
645dd4 No.15676396
>>15676391
Those screenshots aren't from this remaster. It's from the Starcraft 2 mod
The warcraft 3 remaster looks more like this
7e0577 No.15676400
btw anons up for playing? I don't have a legal copy so i really don't know how active this game is
55946b No.15676407
>"We're not good at making new games with lovely features, or going back and re-introducing older concepts. No, need to appeal to the target market that only cares about muh graphics over gameplay."
>"If we could just keep revising old games, we can get people to buy them again because they'll like the graphics!"
This is a dangerous mentality developing. I hate this practice.
7e0577 No.15676408
>>15676396
That actually looks way better. Still doesn't excuse everything else they will change and add.
7a34c7 No.15676410
>>15676396
Holy fuck it looks like a mobile game.
Fucking dead on arrival.
>>15676369
This.
The reason why WC3 stuck so much with me was because I genuinely liked the low-poly aesthetic they had going for it.
>>15676408
It looks much worse than the original.
What a fucking disgrace.
6e56eb No.15676413
Best outcome: It revives interest in WC3 and Blizzard fails miserably in this venture.
Worst outcome: New friends to the genre willingly accept broken practices and shady deals and eat up Blizzard's attempt at WC4.
55946b No.15676414
I call upon every anon to tell me your favorite older game and imagine a nu-male making it "better" and "modern". Your favorite new game. Write a greentext story about what that would look like.
c1c122 No.15676467
You just saw what they did to diablo. They took a good franchise and killed it and then sold the corpse to the Chinese.
You also saw what happened to sc:r. The port was shit, they killed the ASL, and custom games were effectively ruined. Nublizzard has a reverse midas touch where everything they touch dies.
b00d8b No.15676498
>>15675388
>brings back interest in rts
not gonna happen
not to mention W3 was the start of the death of rts
fcae1d No.15676820
>>15675422
>>15675452
Forgive me for not keeping up, but what lore would they need to retcon? If I recall correctly most of the WOW content takes place after Frozen Throne.
f74171 No.15676828
Soulless, looks like a chinese mobile game.
>$45 AUD
nah, cunt.
05635d No.15676891
>>15675710
i want to look at her panties
6aa857 No.15676956
>>15675388
>Bring back interest in RTS
<Why is this game so slow!
>Paid map packs
>Starcraft 2 fuck ugly UI and always online retardation
>Ugly as shit WoW-tier in-game cinematics
No, fuck this shit.
05635d No.15677156
but yeah, how do the girls look? they had big titties in warcraft 3.
i would just find it ever so dreadful if that were not to be the case here as well.
f74171 No.15677170
>Changed the original maps to look like WoW zone layout.
oof.
6aa857 No.15677183
>>15677170
That's my major gripe, there's this disconnect between the units and environment, that's pretty much WoW-shit tier of being bland and dead, while looking color and pretty. And fuck the UI
ff79f4 No.15677210
This reeks of desperation
34576e No.15677212
Don't fool yourself. It looks like HoTS. It will play like HoTS. It's shit. Blizzard died when North was canned, and that was a long time ago.
34576e No.15677218
>>15677170
It looks fucking awful. Mix between HoTS and a mobile game.
05635d No.15677244
>>15677170
i sure as hell dont remember the layouts of those maps. i feel like wowfags would appreciate it more since they spend a lot of time in cities. then again, they probably wouldnt be too bothered if it remained the same either.
is there not value in consistency though?
42236d No.15677694
WC3 is actually huge in China. This will actually succeed where SC:R had mediocre success.
6aa857 No.15677744
>Using the same voice audio
>Uses WoW-shit music
>Skips "Glad you could make it, Uther"
FUCK YOU
7a34c7 No.15678239
>>15677170
I took a look at the video.
>awful WoW music plays during the cutscenes, completely killing any impact
>cutscenes look like they're straight out of WoW
>unit portraits that focus more on the body than the face, you can barely see their features (still animated, at least, but you won't be seeing any titties from the sorceresses or Jaina)
>new icons that look terrible and don't blend in with the old ones
>new map design for some retarded reason, completely missing the mark with Stratholme which now looks like a small, irrelevant town instead of being the big city that it should be
>units and buildings redesigned to look like they're straight from WoW
>former WC3 tournament champion reduced to a paid shill with barely any views
>"t-they wanted to make it playable now so you wouldn't have to fix the game through the registry just to uncap the framerate"
Maybe they should have fixed their spaghetti code if they wanted to do that.
But the worst of all are the fucking idiots in the comments praising this turd.
This was so clearly made for the WoW crowd in mind, it hurts.
I didn't think they'd rape Warcraft 3 since it just sat in the corner of obscurity with a couple of fans, but they really fucking went and did it.
I hope it was worth it, you pieces of trash.
7cb159 No.15678275
>>15675388
What's with that picture? The Arthas, Jaina, Uther trio and the title "The Culling" seem to allude to the purge of Stratholme, but that city looks a lot like Stormwind.
b9de62 No.15678312
>>15678275
That's how the entrance of Stratholme looks in WoW.
55125a No.15678318
>>15677170
>That Arthas unit portrait
I knew Blizzard always stole from Warhammer, but fucking hell, how are those pauldrons not crushing his shoulders.
Also, that fucking hair.
eaec7d No.15678326
>>15675388
>>15678239
>Arthas voice somehow sounds simultaneously more dramatic and more bland
11b0d5 No.15678490
>>15676820
Characters who died in Warcraft 3 reappear in WoW, usually with poor explanations of how they came back to life, or sometimes no explanations at all. Sometimes this is done just so they can make you re-kill that character in a "totally epic" raid fight.
>During the war against the Lich King, adventurers of the Alliance can see a flashback of the interaction between Arthas and Muradin prior to Arthas claiming Frostmourne in the Frostmourne Cavern in the Dragonblight. It reveals that Muradin was not slain when the ice encasing Frostmourne shattered, but was merely wounded and knocked unconscious.
And yet when Arthas returns to Northrend in the Frozen Throne expansion, Muradin's fellow dwarves are there, and they're pretty sure that Arthas was responsible for Muradin's death.
There's also stupid stuff like the Dranei you see in Warcraft 3 aren't the original Draenor natives, but rather corrupted ones. The real ones sail the cosmos on a spaceship, because that totally fits into Warcraft lore.
I only played WoW up to the Wrath of the Lich King expansion, so there's probably a lot of later retcons I missed out on.
e7a310 No.15678506
>another blizzard thread
>full of imaginary what if scenarios
Fuck off. It's dead.
7a34c7 No.15678563
>>15676125
I just noticed
>expected to release by 12/31/2019
That shit has probably been in development for a year now and they'll still need one more just to push buggy 3/4 of it out the door.
And you actually preordered it.
>>15678490
I always hated the Stratholme (Caverns of Time, not the original) dungeon in WoW.
It's so stupid because you fight actual undead the whole time there, not the diseased citizens who are just about to transform.
The retcons for the sake of "WoW lore" are absurd.
But here's another thing – Blizz just set themselves on fire.
This string of blunders in such quick succession was so bad some of the drones are actually waking up.
Classic is DOA thanks to all the stupid shit they put in, and they're going to end up saying "well it seems you didn't want classic after all!" despite every mistake being their own fault.
No one will care about Diablow.
WC3 remaster is going to sell 100k copies from the most die-hard drones, success depends entirely on whether the chinks pick it up.
Their IPs are drying up and soon they'll have nothing but a handful of drones and whales.
7e0577 No.15678590
>>15678563
>It's so stupid because you fight actual undead the whole time there, not the diseased citizens who are just about to transform.
Fucking really? The gameplay of that mission complimented the morally ambiguous story beat in that mission. You cant direct attack pre-transformed citizens, you have to attack move on them. So if you want to make it easier for you you have to raid and attack innocent people without them even being able to fight back.
e7a310 No.15679020
>>15675435
Blizzard is terribly afraid of custom map communities.
They don't want to have their games live long, else they cannot milk the drones with new products.
b00d8b No.15679076
>>15679020
>Blizzard is terribly afraid of custom map communities.
I don't know why, custom maps are one of main reasons blizzard survived to get the WoW cash stream started
fugg, people rave about starcraft's multiplayer and shit but the real thing was the easy to use map creator and various things you could do with it
f187a5 No.15679088
>>15676116
How did they completely destroy it? I'm not up to date
e7a310 No.15679135
>>15679076
Because they can evolve into separate games and blizzard wants to own the right to those even if they didn't do jackshit.
Like dota did and now earns valve millions.
Like Red Solstice did from Resident Evil maps.
Like hundreds of tower defense maps.
Blizzard cannot manage what they have, but they want to keep all rights of a product. Even if their idea of the future of dota was something more casual than league of fucking legends.
55125a No.15679142
>>15678490
The funny part is where Arthas complains no-one will stay dead after he sees Baelgun. Perhaps some dev saw what was going to come.
e0a591 No.15679229
>>15678239
>former WC3 tournament champion reduced to a paid shill with barely any views
>with barely any views
This is wrong. The rest of what you said has merit though.
f74171 No.15679454
>>15678239
I made a post in another Blizz thread. (forgot I posted ITT) They're also re-writing parts of the WC3 story to implement new wow lore, some feminist female is at the helm too, expect the worst. Especially with "free gender confirmation surgery" nu-blizz.
>>15679395
7a34c7 No.15679509
>>15679229
I meant in regards to what he was showing. His video is sitting at 70k now.
Also, there's half a million views for the reveal cinematic and it'll probably climb to one million over time, so I guess I was wrong about the level of interest for this.
>>15679454
I've noticed that some lines of dialogue have been altered or that their order was changed.
>>15678326
This is the weirdest thing of all.
He sounds hoarse, or maybe he has a cold.
A complete downgrade from the original either way.
8018cd No.15679571
>>15677170
> second pic with the fucking obvious wig
Fun fact: married Jewish women shave their heads and wear wigs. Why? Because it is considered indecent for a married woman to flaunt her hair in public, so (((they))) figured they could get around the rule by flaunting someone else's hair around in public. The kikery of kikes knows no bounds.
a914fc No.15679739
>>15679571
> Because it is considered indecent for a married woman to flaunt her hair in public
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
What the fuck? You know how bird have shiny and colourful feathers and how that is for attracting mates? Well I've established that human hair serves the exact same purpose. To all the tomboy fags have you ever noticed that if you take a character with normally short hair and give them long hair they because instantly more sexy? Or how when a woman lets down her tied hair.
8bfd4d No.15679749
>>15679537
Carlin, the funniest boomer cuckold to live.
513586 No.15679779
>>15679571
The Jewish "faith" is all about loopholes. I'm not kidding. Their piece of shit version of the bible - the Torrah or whatever it is - has these bogus ass rules in place like you can't own a horse and have it sleep next to a window so they have these workarounds and loopholes and try to get around everything that is said.
As much as I hate to say it, it's why kikes are such good lawyers, they're used to finding loopholes since they do it all the fucking time in their jackass religion.
fd6c7e No.15679783
>>15675388
Is there some compilation of retcons yet?
cc9f06 No.15680382
>>15679783
Do they not fucking understand that more polygons doesn't make a game better? This looks like something Blizzard in their prime would have done for April Fools. I want to find whomever is responsible for this crap and shoot him (calm down FBI, I'm only venting frustration) .
What's most boggling is that mostly everyone is eating this crap up. I don't know whether they have three pairs of rose-tinted nostalgia googles on or are just sheple. There won't be any new good games, and all the classics will be (((remastered))), milked drier than Satan's asshole.
dc364f No.15680590
>>15680382
Oh my god, what the hell have they done to the infernal face!?!?!?!?! It looks like a meme edit of it taken from old 4chan. The old one looked menacing & evil, but now I only see a green and fiery /fit/ Papyrus.
89d275 No.15680718
>>15680590
That's the Wow model for the inferno, anon.
dc364f No.15680749
>>15680718
Must be modern Wow, because last time I played, not long ago in private Wrath server, it looked like this. Didnt looked as over-designed and bland as now, for the looks of it. Fucking Blizzard.
df0063 No.15680767
It's nice to know my nostalgic RTS favorite won't suffer the same fate as Warcraft 3.
89d275 No.15680769
>>15680749
My mistake. I think it's more from the Wow trading card game. Second pick is how they look in Wow Legion
7a34c7 No.15680832
>>15680749
>>15680769
>old infernal
>big guy
>strong arms and legs
>no hands, all he has are fists to nuke your shit
>looks like he can and will fuck you up
>body parts are connected through the power of infernal fel fire straight from the void
>menacing look on his face
Would stay away from unless I'm at a higher level than him.
>new infernal
>small arms
>soyboy's legs
>massive shoulders to compensate for his lack of upper and lower body strength
>looks like a toy, wouldn't scare a toddler
>limbs are connected by weak strings of fel power, he might crumble under his own weight
>small hands with tiny fingers on them, can't punch for shit
>protection on legs so he doesn't get hurt during combat
>"I am a faggot, please punch me" face
Would not be afraid to engage even if 10 levels lower than him.
89d275 No.15681096
>>15680832
Goys, it keeps getting better and better.
As commanding general of your army, you can now discriminate against the natural distribution of white males in dangerous hero occupations. This will have, of course, no combat and gameplay impact whatsoever, because we're all equal. End discrimination by having full choice in the race and gender of your units.
fcae1d No.15681104
>>15678490
Thanks Anon. I totally forgot about the Space Goats.
5ba0cb No.15681299
>>15676332
It looks like that fucking phone game. It's ugly as fuck. But here's the question.
Does Jaina still have her cleavage?
aac0a7 No.15681398
>>15680382
>orc literally WAAAAAAAAAGHs
>in warcraft
4c1140 No.15681429
>>15679142
I'm quietly glad they soft-killed Arthas when he merged with Ner'zhul. He was replaced by the Lich King just before things got awful
>>15681299
You know she won't
a914fc No.15681467
>>15681096
>there will be skins to customize their appearance in-game
THERE IT IS, THERE IS YOU FIRST HINT AT MICROTRANSACTIONS
42236d No.15681478
It looks like an early 2010s mobile game
c46c17 No.15681553
>>15681096
I can have a male priestess of the moon? what the fuck
13711d No.15681610
>>15681096
i can see the potential for more lewd avatars if they keep custom maps like they do in non remaster.
but its nuactiblizz we are talking about so they'll probably lockdown custom maps like they did with sc2 like an iron fist and the only good way to play custom maps would be to find a key for war 3 and play those
b23b9f No.15681690
>>15681096
If one discounts suspicions of motive (left-wank, cosmetic microtransaction bait) donut steel hero units is actually a neat if pointless to the core game feature. Depending on the visual customization depth, whether you can import new model swaps for free, and if these visuals can be modified by scripting flags in-game and not just through a Dawn of War pseudo-army painter hero menu thing, that might be very useful for Diabloesque RPG custom maps or RTS-RPG maps that have generic custom units equipped through items, allowing you to hotswap visible armor and weapons. It'd be a lot less crude than vaguely attaching floating item models onto body parts, at least. I'm pleased to see it.
Whether genderswaps are motivated by soyniggatry, shekelmeistery, or just the art people having a brainfart and some spare time plus development lead approval, I don't know, and artstyle is up to personal taste (I think it looks off, but not unacceptable where it doesn't look like total playdough like the human buildings,) but that isn't concerning compared to, say, the highly inflated polycount relative to units still having no hit response animations, in spite of there surely being enough know-how and resources to backport them in and blend them with any other unit animation. It's dead simple. Unit gets hit from neutral, unit torso bobs/recoils, unit returns to neutral position in time for its next attack animation. Unit gets hit within attack animation, attack animation diverges a little.
Warcraft III is lo-fi enough that you would never really notice the fact enemies slap each other without reacting, but the idea that the remaster team can't do something like this when even vanilla WoW (which was bootlegged and expanded out of the WC3 engine in the first place) has this exact kind of blended torso bobbing on hit is ridiculous. It takes you completely out of it when these high-poly models, smoothly modeled and textured with defined greebly armor details & 3D muscles, just stand there without reacting to getting slapped in the face with a big silly Warcraft sword, not even in the outright bullshot with the Blademaster yelling. The lack of care paid in these details is what makes me suspicious, not customizable/genderswapped heroes.
There's no love; the effort is inattentive, by the book, phoned in. They are making Warcraft III on a newer engine iteration with technically shinier graphics. No one told them to sharpen the visuals of certain things, so they didn't. No one told them to put in new animation functions to make sure units don't look uncanny when fighting, so they didn't. And no one told them to put a spin on the original UI instead of just sticking some extra new buttons (nor to make those buttons adhere to the original art style strictly; unless I'm losing it, see >>15676332 and pay attention to the gold border dimples on the right-hand minimap buttons relative to the new hero portrait and control group buttons) and so they didn't. Most likely, no one is telling them to make sure the custom map scripting is at least as complex/open to dicking with as that of Warcraft 3, or Starcraft II for that matter, so they probably and unfortunately won't. And if that's the case, that means no custom map community carryover or defibrillation, which means no one gives a shit, because when was the last time people played WCIII melee skirmishes on a large scale?
42236d No.15681785
>>15681690
>no one is telling them to make sure the custom map scripting is at least as complex/open to dicking with as that of Warcraft 3, or Starcraft II for that matter
A large part of how WC3 custom maps took off was how easy it was to make maps there while SC2 was notoriously difficult
b23b9f No.15681840
>>15681785
And doubtless there'll be no improvement over SC2's deficient standard. More likely, this team will take things further downhill in terms of flexibility. It's not an aspect they've been told to fiddle with, let alone revamp. If anything they might just orphan and dummy out certain things on orders from someone higher up. Saying, 'make sure the world editor won't compete with our homegrown gametypes,' maybe.
5ba0cb No.15681870
>>15681553
Male priestesses.
Female keepers.
Female farseers.
Male wardens.
Female paladins.
42236d No.15681882
>>15681840
>make sure the world editor won't compete with our homegrown gametypes
Oh no, part of the reason why SC2 custom maps never took off is that Blizzard claimed ownership of everything made in it. They're quite happy for there to be a next smash hit game made in it since they'll be owning it.
c5d82e No.15681894
Looks like they added an easter egg to the campaign mission too.
e4160e No.15681906
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15675388
am I being fucking pranked? This this is on par with a fucking sc2 mod made by randoms, the SC2 arcade is free by the way you can play video related without spending a dime
15540d No.15681981
>>15681894
>added an easter egg to the campaign
I have some pretty heavy concerns about that. Adding, altering, these are things that have to be done with a delicate touch to respect the originals which I simply do not trust Bliz to do.
In fact, I'll wager $300 they'll fuck with something in the story to whitewash a certain character who they've been trying to push as a hero from the original path of being a flippant, patricidal, traitor who basically could have stopped everything if only there was a single fuck to give.
0fe9be No.15682018
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>>15681096
>Orc female blademaster waifus
I'm ok with this.
c5d82e No.15682062
>>15681981
well the layout of the city was altered to align with the wow version. I'm fine with the campaign having some variations as long as the multiplayer is the same.
70231e No.15682194
>>15681882
what i want to know is if they will be doing that for reforged
It was literally the only reason i didn't buy SC2
c5d82e No.15682198
>>15681096
so female dk hero model would be balumeux?
Male dark ranger could be nathanos, but hes gonna be his wow model now which would be disappointing
I could see SJW point being thrown on having a tauren chieftess too, considering they put one as the leader of the high-mountain tribe in legion. I dont know if a female anubarak is desirable.
70231e No.15682209
>>15681096
I'm fine with this if its for non-custom maps like what SC remastered did. starcraft remastered actually wasn't too bad compared to remasters like what beamdog does
Which isn't to say i support them doing it, but its not the worst they can do
However if its for fucking custom maps I'm going to be pissed
7e6592 No.15682387
>>15675422
They already mentioned skins. The example given was Jaina on a Horse for ranked melee instead of archmage.
d0adf2 No.15682415
>>15678490
implying wow was canon to begin with
55946b No.15682751
>>15680382
I feel your pain, anon. I also feel that the classic graphics are better in their own niche way. We are talking about a game made long ago around 2002 with a completely different development team. What faggots don't understand is it isn't the same people developing it. They aren't remastering it; they are trying to turn an old game into a new game. Quintessentially, not the same game anymore.
>muh graphics doe
This is the most infuriating tid-bit I encounter. Graphics don't make a game better. It doesn't need to look more 'enhanced'. Minecraft doesn't have the most advanced graphics. It was still a hit. This is the biggest dump on the WoW franchise as a whole. New graphics belong for newer games. This is an old game, ffs.
>muh Warcraft 3 players demanded this
As a WC3 player, I didn't demand this crap. All nu-Blizzard does is favor the MMO over the RTS. How has that worked out for them? If they made another RTS instead of an MMO after Wrath, the game probably would've been better. They cater to MMO autists and you get a shitty story because you can't do much with an MMO like you can an RTS for the WARCRAFT universe. WoW owes so much to Warcraft 3 as the RTS and the new development team has no hand in this craft. It wasn't their game they developed. It was different people over a different time.
>What's most boggling is that mostly everyone is eating this crap up. I don't know whether they have three pairs of rose-tinted nostalgia googles on or are just sheple. There won't be any new good games, and all the classics will be (((remastered))), milked drier than Satan's asshole.
I feel you, anon. All of /v/ is going to ache when their favorite old games get (((remastered))) and cashcow'd for a new cha-ching when game developers these days realize their repeated formulas need to re-introduce older mechanics or older styles. They'll go back and break old games that were successful and finished products long ago. This is going to be a massive cancer for gaming as an entertainment industry, I promise you.
f74171 No.15682780
From Polygon Article.
<Writer Christie Golden, who has worked with Blizzard on multiple novels set in the Warcraft universe over the past two decades, is helping to bring “parity” to the stories of Warcraft 3 and World of Warcraft, which will require retconning some of the strategy game’s story. Those changes will bring “renewed focus to a few central characters that we thought deserved a little bit more time in the limelight,” Stillwell said.
>“There’s been 16 years of evolution of this franchise outside of this game,” Stillwell explained. “Some of that, especially central characters like Jaina and Sylvanas, these people who mean so much more to the world now who didn’t get as much focus [in the original Warcraft 3] because we just didn’t know where they were going to be.”
>“The missions themselves, like what you see in ‘The Culling,’ we didn’t just replace the artwork, we relayed it out to be what people expect from World of Warcraft,” Souza, a lead artist on Reforged, said. “[Players have] gone through Stratholme while it’s burning. They’ve gone through Stratholme with Arthas as he’s doing the Culling, and that’s one of those things where we’re recreating the [Stratholme] that people know, rather than one that was in the original Warcraft 3, which if you looked at it really didn’t make much sense — it had Greek columns, and these whale statues and this river going through it. So where we can make those changes where it brings parity with World of Warcraft which has done so much with the characters, with the lore, and the locations…”
>“And a lot of stuff in Warcraft 3 was just kind of put in as ‘Hey, isn’t this awesome? This is cool.’ Like the Murlocs for instance. One of the artists back in the day, he came in over the weekend because he felt that there needed to be more creeps on the maps … so he just retextured what the ghoul was and he made a Murloc. That was how the Murloc was born. Just this guy [being] really passionate wanting more stuff. Then in World of Warcraft, Murlocs are everywhere — they’ve gotten a society, they’ve got heroes — so we want to make sure that [Reforged’s] Murlocs, are those Murlocs.”
acff1a No.15682791
>>15682387
That sounds like a change of class and likely animations/model as well to me, which is far from a reskin.
456c9e No.15682809
>>15679779
You sure seem to know a lot about the Torah, Shlomo. Tell us more.
4eff84 No.15682879
>>15682780
Oh no, theyre going to meme garithos into the alt-right garithos
6b1956 No.15683145
>>15682751
Just because you can change the rendering and add more polygons doesn't mean you should. There's a very good reason why unit-models in a good RTS are simplified and streamlined. All the details and fluorishes can make for arguably better cinematic, but when you're controlling an army of those fuckers, each one is about ant-sized, and they all become a grey indistinct mass. Which wouldn't have happened with proper unit design. You can't tell your units from enemy units . You can't tell your units from each other. They're all overly-complicated, muted, and muddy. But boy does it look good when you zoom in on one.
I remember each and every Warcraft 3 skirmish unit. They just "popped". I can only say that for one other game I've played, Red Alert 2. Now, Command and Conquer Tiberium Wars might have been a good game, but dam if I can recall any of the units (that's not quite true, the obelisk tower and redeemer were awesome).
That's the difference between good graphics and bad ones, good design and bad design. Less is more . It's sad to see Warcraft 3 look like a C&C ripoff.
8018cd No.15683176
>>15679739
Did you miss the """maried""" part? They are expected to cover their hair when they get married because they have already attracted a mate.
811625 No.15683186
>>15682879
>Make Lordareon human again!
46b248 No.15683192
It will be shit, because even if they don't instigate the same level of politically correct censorship and shit that killed SC2 mapmaking before it could even take off, all of the custom content will probably be incompatible with the new game.
They probably think that ladder or the campaign was the best part about Wc3, the fucking retards. I played that game for 10 years, and it wasn't for either of those. Hell, even that patch for Wc3 recently killed compatibility for a bunch of older maps that don't see updates anymore, why does anyone think they care?
e953d5 No.15683196
>>15683145
But in warcraft you can have like 30 solders max anyway.
9940e2 No.15683199
>>15683145
Will never understand why EA would literally flush C&C down the toilet after how good C&C3 was.
e953d5 No.15683208
>>15683199
Because they are fucking evil and greedy?
7a34c7 No.15683235
>>15682751
>>15683145
Warcraft 3 was made to look good in motion – if you took a screenshot, it would look like ass, but while actually playing it would be gorgeous.
This is because the models were very simple and all the detail was implied through clever texturing and animating. Less really is more.
But now you have these overly detailed models that are tiring to look at because they have too much detail on them.
The eye will have trouble keeping up with their movement and focusing.
The original was pretty and easy to look at, anyone using the new graphics is going to be at a serious disadvantage in multiplayer.
>>15682780
Yep, it pretty much is WoW the RTS.
Right now there is overwhelming support for this turd, but I wonder if that is going to change as time moves on.
251307 No.15683243
I don't even understand why you cucks are still salivating over blizzshit.
>"muh warcraft 3 remake!"
>"just wait for diablo 4!"
are you fucking serious LMFAO
7a34c7 No.15683253
>>15683243
Go back to cuckchan, you illiterate retard.
251307 No.15683257
>>15683253
t. triggered blizzdrone NPC
7e6592 No.15683262
>>15676125
the new artwork makes Arthas look like he has PTSD. The in game remake he looks like a fucking giraffe.
82954a No.15683266
>>15683231
They fucked the grunts up, Shoulder armor is supposed to be on the left man.
9777a6 No.15683271
>>15683231
Somehow for my eyes, the upper images has easier way to distinguish objects, while the lower part has the terrain and units all mixed together.
b45ae8 No.15683282
>>15683231
The buildings look neat in the bottom, but the characters are way too large, they need scaled down a little.
Whoever remastered the game didn't think about the way the characters armor was actually working and just did Muh Looks, the armor is on the left shoulder, because the right is protected by the Grunts sword. The grunt can use the sword on his right to defend attacks, but if he has a shoulder plate added on that side as well, it'll make him off balance and leave his left side totally exposed.
Also, maybe it's just because I played WC3 back in the day, but the top image I kept thinking was animated, and I was seeing the bobbing of the horse, or the characters actually getting ready to move. Lastly, I think the game would benefit more from having just been a remaster in the same sense as the halo remaster, where you press a button and you can switch back to the way WC III looked when it was released.
7a34c7 No.15683290
>>15683282
>you press a button and you can switch back to the way WC III looked when it was released
I think they're going to allow that.
251307 No.15683308
>>15683290
>paying for a warcraft 3 remake from nublizz just so you can turn off the remade content and play the original game
actual blizzdrone logic
f52edd No.15683341
>>15683282
>the armor is on the left shoulder, because the right is protected by the Grunts sword. The grunt can use the sword on his right to defend attacks, but if he has a shoulder plate added on that side as well, it'll make him off balance and leave his left side totally exposed.
If you look close the axe is in the grunts left hand so the armour is still on the opposite side
094304 No.15683350
>>15675388
We had a solid mod community, then one of those faggots made DotA and nobody wanted to play anything else. Pages and pages of DotA DL=KICK. All I wanted to do was run around as a peon hiding in bookshelves from some dude killing people. Fuck if I know what the game was, couldn't ever find the fuckin thing. Fuck mobas.
d794b0 No.15683372
>>15681690
> (nor to make those buttons adhere to the original art style strictly; unless I'm losing it, see >>15676332 and pay attention to the gold border dimples on the right-hand minimap buttons relative to the new hero portrait and control group buttons)
That aint the remake, that's SC2
7a34c7 No.15683395
>>15683372
Honestly, after seeing Blizz's actual remaster, the old fan-made SC2 to WC3 mod looks golden.
It's so stupid how modders can adhere to the old aesthetic better than the people who are paid to do it.
25a4af No.15683465
>>15683395
The modders give a shit about the game, the paid poz crew are jewish golems of the board of directors.
000000 No.15683824
>if you buy this we wont make warcraft 4
wtf I love blizzard now
brb pre-ordering
000000 No.15683829
11b0d5 No.15684071
>>15683829
I don't have a link to the video, but it was stated in an interview with a dev that occurred later in the day the game was announced. It was confirmed again by a different dev in the article mentioned here >>15682780
http://archive.is/ROJPR
56a21c No.15684088
So, what are we gonna call this version? "War Craft 3: RePozzed"?
3d9ba3 No.15684128
>>15684088
>"War Craft 3: RePozzed"?
Refudged
000000 No.15684180
>>15679088
they completely destroyed it for warcraft 3 too, they updated the game to 1.29 which made every single custom map unplayable, so modders had to re-do the maps from scratch to fit in the new coding. there used to be LTA/LTF/AWLR games every day and several times a day, a while after some updates after 1.29 there are 3-4 a week
they also later made it so custom maps cannot be bothosted anymore by introducing some vpn tunnelling for hosting
d4c98a No.15684203
Official reminder that it was Warcraft 3 with associated novels that made Orcs into the dindus we know today.
>>15681429
>I'm quietly glad they soft-killed Arthas when he merged with Ner'zhul. He was replaced by the Lich King just before things got awful
He wasn't though. It's canon that Arthas mindkilled Ner'zhul after TFT but before WotLK. The Lich King in WoW is just Arthas in a helmet.
>>15681553
>>15681870
The NEs were supposed to be Warcraft Drow with Wood Elf cloth. Hence the gender roles in WC3 with the females all archers and priestesses and otherwise infantry while the males were shapesshifters/casters. The exceptions were Demon Hunters who were supposed to be rebels against NE society.
Lore ended up losing this since it introduced Maiev's brother and female Druids.
>>15682018
>supporting racemixing
Goon.
>>15681981
You talking about Illidan?
>>15682879
He was already a strawman there to drag down down Humanity by being mean to the poor widdle Sun Elves. Like how Admiral Proudmoore was a dastardly White Male hunting the noble savages.
7a34c7 No.15684392
>>15684203
To be fair, the reason the Orcs got that treatment was because Blizz was balls deep into the idea of developing WoW even way back then.
Don't forget that the TFT disc came with a trailer for WoW, which would be released only a year later.
000000 No.15684404
>>15684203
>it's canon that arthas mindkilled nerzhul
it's not, in warcraft 3 Arthas is told he has no soul and he says "then I'll have to make do without one". it's canon that Arthas is soulless and completely a vessel for Nerzhul
>warcraft made orcs into dindus
no, Tolkien did, and then Warhammer did
6aa857 No.15684431
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15684203
>Official reminder that it was Warcraft 3 with associated novels that made Orcs into the dindus we know today.
You must be mistaken, they've been planning to make the Orcs dindunuffin since 1997 or 1998
d4c98a No.15684498
>>15684404
>it's not, in warcraft 3 Arthas is told he has no soul and he says "then I'll have to make do without one". it's canon that Arthas is soulless and completely a vessel for Nerzhul
Metzen's word, the Arthas novel, Chronicle all say no. Arthas is the Lich King. Not some composite entity.
>no, Tolkien did, and then Warhammer did
So you didn't read Tolkien (where Orcs are abominations forged by their world's Devil). Warhammer Orcs are football fans. Warcraft Orcs were retconned from conquerors killing off inhabitants of another world to rule it themselves (ala Huns and Mongols) to noble savages magically corrupted by demons and enslaved by a dastardly White human.
>>15684431
Warcraft Adventures had no demon curse.
5ba0cb No.15684529
>>15684203
It's because they didn't feel the need to stay completely true to WC3 lore in WoW. Just like WC3 didn't stay true to WC2 lore. This is why "we are going back and retconning the female characters to line up with WoW lore" is such a contrived lie. You know the feminists are losing footing when just a couple of years ago, they were proudly and obnoxiously waving the banner of "abolishing misogynistic tropes." Now they use more neutral language and completely beat around the bush to justify the things they keep doing. They know the public is rejecting their rhetoric.
e7d4ba No.15684545
>>15683231
DUDE BANNERS LMAO
e81914 No.15685501
>>15685240
why can't the model match the concept art?
71cc42 No.15685533
>>15685501
Garithos looks pretty cool here.
>>15685508
>sylvanas with pants
Fucking trash.
f3e068 No.15685566
>>15685501
I find it funny that all of those armor designs are 5x better than anything they can come up for high tier raid sets for wow.
fd6c7e No.15685583
>>15685501
>>15685508
>these pauldrons
Now I know where did accusations of plagiarizing Games Workshop came from.
9d84a8 No.15685599
>>15685583
It's not like they completely ripped off their entire everything or anything like that.
816bbb No.15685618
>>15685599
Are you somehow suggesting that Warcraft was originally going to be a Warhammer game until Blizzard couldn't get the rights and then they merely filed off anything copyrighted and made totally not Warhammer instead? Where would you get a crazy idea like that?
f9f3fa No.15685629
>>15675388
Why does every fucking company that attempts a remake, or HD version of a classic game, ALWAYS fail to leave the original game design, gameplay and artstyle INTACT?
There's always one fucking asshole that goes "oh, this is bad, we need to change this because Tyrone told me to while he fucked my wife".
Why is it so hard to just give the project to fans, that have always been proven to produce better results than any company? Just hire them, or make a contract that still lets you get money from it.
5f47f0 No.15685700
>>15682780
Wow, this will be terrible.
5f47f0 No.15685706
>>15685501
>they removed all sex appeal from Jaina.
Trash.
7a6913 No.15685707
>>15685514
the concept art for this is pretty nice, its trying to be similar to the old artstyle which was some sorta 90s metal, the taurens dont look big and cuddly and its nice they dont have eye pupils, much like warcraft 3.
hopefully they will make the 3D models actually good. because Arthas current 3D model looks dumb.
000000 No.15685998
>>15680382
>This looks like something Blizzard in their prime would have done for April Fools
Probably because it IS one of the April Fools jokes they did. They announced they would release a prequel to World of Warcraft which was just Warcraft 3.
8d61de No.15686041
>>15685240
He looks like a giraffe with that neck, and the pauldrons are fucking floating.
218def No.15693474
d5f9b8 No.15693496
>>15685533
>Sylvanas in any way, shape or form
Absolute garbage. She's the new Korrigan now since no one in Blizzard can do anything but write the same shit over and over.
d4c98a No.15693764
>>15693496
Sylvanas wasn't too bad in TFT, if only since this was back when Kerrigan wasn't a dindu. Helps that her voice acress was better too.
fc2cff No.15693843
>>15678318
Blizzards design was always shit.
At last space marines are super strong AND wear power armor on top of that, and thair weapons are more reasonably scaled.
Blizz design:
- giant, redicolous additions for no reason
- massively oversized weapons
- armor that looks like it's made of stone or bone
9a9002 No.15693862
>>15675388
My biggest gripe is the fucking terrain textures. Warcraft III had the best terrain textures out of any game bar none, you could spray random textures like diarrhea all over your toilet's walls and it would still look solid.
Look at this shit instead, it doesn't even have any fucking tridimensionality at all, where's all the shadows? Where's my comfy moquettes instead of this disgusting plastic grass toddler puzzle jigsaws?
Big mistake not hiring Samwise's team, in fact you could wager Warcraft III's (and vanilla WoW's) immortal design is all due to him and his boys.
89d275 No.15697761
Heh, all you haters are just insecure about ur tiny shoulders.
2a59f8 No.15697766
>>15697761
Reminder Games Workshop owns a trademark on giant shoulder pads. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why do we live in this world
550912 No.15697771
>>15685518
>pointless glow on everything
>female demon hunter
why?
0d0dbe No.15697779
>>15693862
>My biggest gripe is the fucking terrain textures. Warcraft III had the best terrain textures out of any game bar none,
? You should get your brain tumor removed.
550912 No.15697974
>>15697779
it's like how Wow players argue WoW some how had better graphics than Lineage 2 at the time.
2539bf No.15697995
>real shilling thread
>not locked
>not anchored
>not dubs bombed to death
>170+ replies
Good goyim
7a34c7 No.15698026
>>15697761
>shoulderpads contain more polygons than the entirety of Warcraft III classic
>mfw
It's probably true, too.
>>15697995
>"I didn't read the thread"
d4c98a No.15698537
>>15697761
Hey there you cuckchanner/goon poster.
2a00d0 No.15700760
>>15675388
Didn't warcraft 3 have a recent patch that gave it some HD love and some other features? I think it was 1.3 or something. Any way I can just buy that?
0c117f No.15701031
>>15680769
Anon, thats just the original wc3 opening cinematic. Or im i some how mistaken?
132ed2 No.15701831
>>15697761
>m-maybe if a make a meme like these dumbfuck racists do, they'll buy our game
No anon on Earth, no warcraft player on earth thinks the new "design" looks good.
3098da No.15701849
>>15697771
All heroes will now have"variants" like a different gender or young/old option, reminds me of a certain shit MMO that has raped the Warcraft franchise pass due it's expiration date.
9c6159 No.15701873
>>15701831
It certainly isn't their first try. Pics taken from shill threads in like 2016 or something
a95806 No.15701889
>>15678239
>>"t-they wanted to make it playable now so you wouldn't have to fix the game through the registry just to uncap the framerate"
I hate this near defenseless raping of older, better devs who can't talk back. This air of smugness that these newer devs and players can just go "oh we're so much better than those pesky people of old" and take a giant dump on everything good.
This is pretty much fan fiction. This isn't true Warcraft 3 and these fucking pretenders don't deserve anything but some shitty low rate mobile IP to slave over the rest of their lives for peanuts.
It angers me how these low rate fucks can get a job and then act all high and mighty about it.
35ae96 No.15701967
>>15683208
>>15683199
They wanted the sweet sweet E-sport shekels.
a632a7 No.15702382
>>15701889
>back in my days developers were good!
Than why they haven't made any good games since than? Where are these good old developers you talk about? And do you imply that warcraft was good? In 3rd most of the stories were retarded as fuck. "And than everyone disregarded their differences and worked together!" "He hated demons from hell so much he joined them for some reason". Not to mention making orks into fucking dindus. I have no idea how they allowed undead as playable race at all. And guess what, they made all of the undead into dindus in wow. And now you will shit on wow for being retarded, and yet it was warcraft 3 which started all of this bullshit.
That being said artas story was good and now they are going to ruin it some more.
89d275 No.15702858
>>15701831
>>15701873
It's ironic, faggots. Plus, I really wanted to use "shoulderpad chad" in a meme.
e9c456 No.15702893
>>15702858
Just woke up and saw this thread. For a second I didn't even think it was a shoop.
d4c98a No.15703618
>>15702382
More or less. Warcraft Lore has been bad more than it's been good. Retcons, dindus, pet characters like Thrall.
550912 No.15703674
>>15701873
this is more reddit tier than shill tier
816bbb No.15703703
>>15702858
We can go even larger
cb8ad8 No.15704557
>Modern blizzard is so lazy that they made this instead of Warcraft 4
just think about that for a second, they made a brand new engine but won't make a new game, probably because they know it will either be shit or threaten WoW somehow
9f054a No.15712577
>>15712524
You really think that would stop the undead hordes from raping everyone?
6267bf No.15712907
>>15675435
>You will never experience Island Defense version 1 ever again
It's a mild annoyance, since it was actually fun once upon a time.
132ed2 No.15715862
>>15683231
>Arthas needs to hands to carry Light's Vengeance instead of holding it at his side
How the fuck is he supposed to carry the book?
eaec7d No.15715880
173d9b No.15715882
>>15712602
Shame. She looks cute in the original pic. She just needs eyebrows.
76ddb9 No.15716194
>>15715882
what are you, some kind of acne fetishist?
a078e3 No.15716298
How hard is it to understand the concept "if it isn't broken don't fix it" ? Why do they think resurrecting and then mauling an old game that was treasured and beloved by its fans (you need proof, look at the plethora of custom maps) is a good idea? I just do not understand their thought processes, they could have made warcraft 4 to be a stand alone abomination instead of murdering a classic.
3c704b No.15716310
>>15716298
They knew they couldn't possibly make a decent new game so they shat over their old one instead.
a078e3 No.15716330
>>15716310
mind you, as far as rts's go it's still garbage, especially when you try to stand it up alongside dark crusade or that command and conquer game from ages ago I can't remember but you get to play as ragheads who launch dirty bombs, but blizzard makes themselves a really easy target when they pull stuff like this.
0d948c No.15716602
>>15682780
>remaking ROC and TFT into more like WoW
Absolutely trash.
3afcb9 No.15716731
>>15716345
>using "kys", ironically or not
>>>/cuckchan/
d4c98a No.15717357
Warcraft III to Vanilla WoW with its expanded universe in hindsight was a mistake. See:
>The Burning Legion, and other supervillains like them.
>The Dragon Aspects.
>Orcs going from survivors of a war of extermination whose planet blew up to a full army come WoW. With the Frostwolf Clan as the speshul noble savagey Orcs who avoided getting corrupted by demons
* The interlude between the murder of Terenas and the beginning of the undead campaign. The undead faction being just pawns of demons, killing machines with no passable goals and society of their own.
>Jaina Grassburner siding with the Orcs against her Straight White Male father
* Garithos and his army doing so little beyond straight white male cartoon villainy against the poor widdle elves.
>>15712524
Except the Orcs still rampaged against the Humans, Dwarves, and High Elves. TFT's Orc Campaign was all about reminding you that the EKs were still around and didn't forget that the Orcs tried to exterminate them.
The Scourge was undefeated in the EK. Kil'jaeden was also unaccounted for.
>>15712695
Even ignoring how the Scourge was still a threat, Kil'jaeden never died.
4eff84 No.15717368
>>15716731
>using memes from anywhere at any time on 8ch/v
d1359c No.15725583
Best thing I can see coming from it is maybe people will open up the original again if this flops hard enough.