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I never got good at it as a kid. Still liked it. Dunno if the later games are better, dunno if it was actually good. Never got the feeling I made much progress.

I'm shitposting in a thread about shitting while shitting.

>>15670164

Later games didn't follow the the first one that's for sure. World 2 is a dungeon crawler, World 3 is your typical JRPG…World 4 is shit.

>>15670161 (OP)

Because the whole point of the game was to care for the little shit you were given?

This is why your digimon even has needs and why he has them and you don't. He is supposed to feel like a living creature with it's own desires and needs.

It's also why Virus carries on beyond death, so you can't just forget about your mistakes. And even then, there's King Sukamon so why would you complain about it this much?

It's really fucking weird to go from playing Digimon World to Pokemon, which was basically my experience (with an emulator, of course). You are given 6 little fags at any time that don't matter since all they do is spam combat moves and you're rotating them around based on your own personal needs. I remenber there was a barber for pokemon in one city and it said it made them happy when I used it, but honestly I never noticed a difference.

To me, Pokemon always was this weird version of final fantasy where the main character isn't in the party during combat (try playing FF 2 and 3 while you're playing Pokemon to see what I mean) while World was actually about caring about a digital monster that could grow into a terryfingly powerfull creature if you knew your shit but you couldn't just sit on your laurels since he'd die and you'd have the whole journey of raising it again.

Shitting is just one aspect of it, Hunger, Sleep, the different training methods, death by old age, Happiness&Discipline, all of it played a part in making the game stand out and be different from the usual RPG you get all the time.

So, is the game good? Never been into digimon but kind of interested, would be cool if someone sold me on it.

>>15670665

It's….pretty intensive. If you like a sim game, this is for you.

Digimon World was an awesome game.

It is needed patience and autism to play tough, but is a really great game. You do need to git gud, i failed lots of time before getting the hang of it.

>>15670758

In World 1? Did you poop on the field 16 times?

>>15670727

I only remember watching most of the first and a bit of the second anime, and the start of Tamers (which was my favorite, really need to watch it to the end). Also watched Tri for the nostalgia and it was meh as fuck.

On the game, I don't really like games that achieve difficulty by hiding all the info from you and expecting you to waste hours on experimentation, but I'll take a look at it sometime

>>15670758

because your digimon didn't meet the requirements to digivolve into anything else

>>15670280

I think they were testing the waters with different mechanics with 1-4, based on Next Order and the Cyber Sluts games they seem to know that people liked 1-3 along with the DS games. I'm still waiting on a new digimon card mini-game.

>>15670727

>It is insanely unforgiving and doesn't explain anything to you. That said, it has neat ideas and is a fun little ride

It manages to use the idea of being flung into an alien world with a pet well because it doesn't give a lot to you other than hints at the beginning. It makes sure the player is committed to learning the game or they're fucked. That doesn't really excuse some of its more obtuse design decisions though, good luck to anyone trying to get all digimon (evolutions and recruits) without a guide.

Because Digimon games are driven by ideasguys who come up with terrible ideas, which is why the whole franchise is an incoherent mess.

>>15670758

Your Digimon took after your waifu.

>>15670161 (OP)

>If you're going to try playing Digimon World, you'd better make sure you're wearing two pairs of underpants

What anon, didn't get you get the memo from the ad? :^) Other than that, the annoying needs mechanic was the devs playing household personal pet on you, and depending on how you treat your Digimon, he'd evolve into horrible shit if you neglect him.

>>15672814

>he'd evolve into horrible shit if you neglect him.

just like IRL children

>>15673410

Sounds more like a sequel to Re:Digitized anyway.

>>15672679

Decode has more content.

i remember getting mad my digimon kept evolving into shit and just stopped playing. the only memorable thing about that game was the poop and how you could make your digimon eat it

>>15673497

I would love to be a young trainer, perhaps under 12, with Guilmon as my partner. He'd be naive and innocently dominate because "it feels good"

>>15673518

How did so many people get sukamon repeatedly? Even when I was younger and barely understood the game I got stuff like drimogemon or centaurmon.

i havent messed with digimon since i was a kid. what animes should i watch? are there any actual good games?

>>15673619

Adventure and Tamers, all subbed.

Digimon World 1 and Re:Digitize or next Order are interesting

World 3 if you can stomach JRPGs, but even then I'd recommend using an emulator and speeding certain sections up by 500%

>>15670758

>Can someone please explain why I always evolved into this piece of shit?

>I

digimons aren't allowed to post

>>15670161 (OP)

>Why was the shitting mechanic so unforgiving?

It actually isn't. There's a lot of toilets in the world. Shitting is also a potential strategy to get some of the higher level ones since they require your digimon hating the player character.

Later on in the game after you unlock the store the player also gets items like one that warps them immediately back to town, and one that acts as a portable toilet you can use wherever.

>>15673759

I thought I had that page with a bunch of the lady digimon on it… seems I don't.

>>15673751

>Before anything you must grind your digimon's stats

This is wrong, you need to train up to your mon's limit -1, so it never gets the tired thought, as that counts as a care-mistake.

What a good start looks like is that you train your monster until its a rookie, then you do the little bit of training you can and go out and beat the shit out of other mons and try and advance your town. Preferably both. Repeat when the day is over.

You can make progress both in the story and in your monsters development really fast that way and usually get some good shit.

I've beaten World 1 in 2 monster generations that way. (Original Agumon, and then its spawn finished up.)

>>15673792

I remember when I first played the game the default starter I had died as soon as I got to the mine. It wasn't til I leveled it up to champion I was able to advance to some of the other areas. It doesn't help the only thing the player can do at this stage in the game is feed your digimon items.

>>15670280

They're not the same series, that's Western naming of Japanese games named differently.

>>15673023

>dub names

>Recommends dub

Opinion discarded.

>>15673619

Digimon is plagued with autists the same way Pokemon is. They all have a hard on for Gen 1 of Digimon and will shit on everything else.

>>15673792

Training while tired is a care mistake. Getting tired isn't.

I don't think any of you understand how Digimon World actually works. Which is fine because you didn't datamine the game, and the game itself gives you no indication of what the hell anything even is. However, we have the technology to know how it works. For example, care mistakes.

https://gamefaqs.please use archive.is/ps/913684-digimon-world/faqs/73845/evolution-requirements#care-mistakes

>>15673857

Wait, when did THAT become a part of gamefaqs URL? I guess I should really be using Neoseeker anyway.

http://www.neoseeker.com/digimon-world/faqs/2557062-evolution.html

>>15673751

>grind

For fuck sake's don't do this, especially when you're starting the game. You're gonna get a never ending amount of Numemons like that.

When your Tamer Level is quite low (TL affects the training amounts you get) your biggest increase in stats comes from digivolving a Rookie to a Champion. It can easily double most stats or go even further.

And in order to get Champions, you do not need a massive amount of stats. Literally just having 200 of 2 different stats is often enough.

Digimon actually differs from most JRPGs because Stats are only 1 condition for digivolution but there's plenty more. You do not need all conditions and late game you can ignore some of the Stat requirements as long as you fill a few others.

One of the conditions for instance, is the amount of techniques in a specific type that your Mon knows, something that's very important for the really good Digimon.

How do you get those techniques? Fighting against other mons.

Which is also good since most Digimons also have a minimum amount of fights as a condition (although some actually have 0 or a "lesser than" limit instead).

Add to this that training takes 1 hour but combat only takes 20 minutes. If it seems like you're not getting many points from combat, just triple their gains before you compare with training.

For the start of Digimon World, a rookie with a few hours of training is enough to do most content in the Forest nearby (except for Kunemon).

You should quickly get Palmon for better meat (and so you can get Vegiemon right on the first day 15) and then head directly to Koela Point at sunset. If you go around, the bridge will be fixed, you can talk to Koelamon to get your first shop and keep the bridge permanently fixed and also get Betamon from the nearby Mangroove area. That's 2 shopkeepers with no battles to get them and Giant Meats right on day 2-3. Centaurumon is easy enough to get as well afterwards for the clinic and once the Meramon situation starts, you can get the Restaurant.

That's 3 convenience stores in just a few days really cheap.

>>15673857

Also this, check guides for the conditions for digivolution. Some of this shit you'll never figure out.

Just keep in mind that some guides may be missing a few Digimon. I've seen many stating that Phoenixmon is just a rumor but I had one.

Fortunnaly Digimon World Order puts this information on the game itself, but requires you to unlock it by raising your relationship with your mons, which is pretty cool.

>tfw the only one who likes World 4

It's just very similar to Gauntlet and Champions.

>>15670629

This is why I personally think the Digimon World formula is better than the Digimon Story formula. That and real-time combat is more exciting.

If there was a sequel to Next 0rder with a similar "solo MMORPG" combat system to Xenoblade it would be the perfect Digimon game. But apparently turn-based combat sells way more.

>>15670869

I love the song in the Tamer's opening.

I also kinda liked Frontier a lot before it went balls to the walls retarded with its digivolutions, rendering everyone useless except two faggots.

>>15674786

Frontier could have been cool, if they went the body horror route with the evolutions, had actual character development and writers that gave a fuck.

But its pretty bad and was only made because some executive saw that Tamers ratings spiked during the mega episodes, so he thought that what kids wanted was kids turning into mons.

That is why Powerrangers: Digimon Edition exists.

>>15676792

More like it's because Guilmon has a big weenie

>>15676792

he's not a retard, he's a child, mentally speaking

>Why was the shitting mechanic so unforgiving?

<buy porta-potties

<if digimon throws a fit, you scold it and offer it again

A better question would be why the fuck are most digimon's evolutionary lines fucked up. It's like getting a squirtle, evolving it into wartortle, and ending up with alakazam, and blastoise not being in the game

The most puzzling thing is why there are 2 mega digimon (Hercules Kabuterimon and Phoenixmon)

>>15670665

The game fails to show plenty of info like tiredness, care mistake count, and evolution conditions (weight, stats, care mistake requirement, etc.), but discounting that shit it can be fun. As you populate the city you get better shit, like an item shop, better food, etc.

>>15670727

>It is insanely unforgiving

I would call it frustrating due to trial and error. At least it's kind enough to tell you when you've fucked up (sweatdrop bubble, ignoring hunger bubble, skipped sleep, sick, lost battle, shitting). Some ultimates allow up to 10 care mistakes, others require 15+. So if you fucked up just suck it up and reload. Also there's no RNG variation on tiredness; each training has its own tiredness value. Once you find out how much training your current digimon can withstand you won't fuck up anymore.

>>15672733

>DW2

The main problem with that game is the retarded level cap mechanics which force you to burn digimon (and then grind back up) to raise it. Digimon from trades or caught in the wild have few moves and shit stats, so you can't escape the grind. The SLOW battles make grinding all the more annoying.

The kicker is you have fuse specific digimon if you want to keep your current one, and evolutions are decided by digivolution points, but at least they had the decency to include grindable chips to adjust DP and increase stats.

at least it's not as bad as DW3 where you had to get all 8 partner digimon to lv 45+ for the post-game

>>15677438

Fucking give over the images

>>15678825

Sweet, thanks anon.

I'll wait for Sony to stop being shit this gen, pray for a port, or pirate it.

>>15673823

Dude, it's called the Digimon World in Japan too. Don't give me that bullshit it's the Western naming.

>>15672730

I want a new Digimon Card game.

>>15672733

Phoenixmon, ExTyrannomon and Pumpkinmon. Was aiming for a Magnamon but I fucked up the DP count..

>>15670629

>I remenber there was a barber for pokemon in one city and it said it made them happy when I used it, but honestly I never noticed a difference.

Some pokemon only evolve when they're at a certain happiness level. I think there might be a move or two that is affected by Happiness level as well.

>>15675096

Yeah this was stupid since it was so backwards. If anything the good part about the end of Tamers is that it gets much more serious and psychological. Instead, Frontier is much more lighthearted than even Adventure, with none of the character development. Adventure, 02, and Tamers were all about the character development of the humans and the Digimon were, with some exceptions, basically extensions of the humans. So okay, I get if you just remove the Digimon and have the kids transform, but then they don't actually make the kids interesting characters, so it's a moot point. Also, as a kid I didn't get removing the digimon and making the kids transform. it felt too different, combined with being the second reboot in a row, so it was practically entirely disconnected from everything I liked about the series. So I stopped watching.

>>15679025

Especially when Gen 1 Digimon is notorious for basically just recoloring existing Digimon and calling it a day. Case in point, Agumon and his amazing Variants. Granted, they still do the variants nowadays but not as blatant as Gen 1 Digimon.

>>15679172

Yeah, Frustration and Return. Frustration increases damage the lower the happiness, Return is the opposite.

>>15679181

i thought it was more like Nag/Compliment

>>15679204

Oh no, it's a response to >>15679172 who was talking about certain Pokemon attacks affected by Happiness

>>15679177

This is a bit more justifiable in Digimon because they are all related in a giant web, so it makes sense that minor changes in raising them would result in minor changes in their species.

>>15670629

wait, so its impossible to make the virus meter go down without starting a new game? dying by losing all of your lives and then being given a random new digitama won't give you a brand new digimon with no virus meter?

should I be worried if my digimon has taken a dump 3 times before finally getting a source of portapotties?

and what are you supposed to do if your digimon has max discipline and doesn't want to use a portapotty OR autopilot when you're far away from a toilet? do I basically have a time limit before I'm basically forced to get a numemon every time?

>>15679305

This is what people are referring to when they mention "culture". Anything that is a sadistic and backwards ritual.

>Digimon thread

>instantly devolves into furries shitting up the thread with their talking fox

More reasons to purge furries

>>15679451

oh that. fuck no, i've wanted to fuck digimon since Biyomon came on screen during Adventure back when i first watched it in 2001, and then gatomon/tailmon was nearly an insta-nutt.

>>15680030

Give it time, anon.

We only JUST got Renamon X and Sakuyamon X

>>15673497

>>15673759

I'd fuck all of them tbqh

>>15680398

i remember the hack, i just think its a dumb reference to make.

>>15679314

>wait, so its impossible to make the virus meter go down without starting a new game?

That's not what he's saying at all. The virus stat rises until it's full, and then you get a sukamon. You can then take that sukamon to trash mountain where the king will revert your digimon with an empty virus gauge if you talk to him. If you can't/don't want that I'm pretty sure the next digimon cycle after that sukamon will have a clear virus gauge anyway.

>>15679314

>>15680870

reverting from sukamon also resets the care mistake count. It also counts as digivolution so it extends lifespan (96h for perfect), but do note that care mistakes reduce lifespan by a few hours, so you won't get much out of intentionally filling the virus gauge.

Or you can abuse glitches in jijimon's house to prevent the sukamon evolution when the meter fills up (it still counts as care mistake though).

>>15679409

take your degeneracy to >>>/fur/

>>15679409

>Terriermon will never show off his thicc little body and tease you and joke about how much you're turned on by a little digimon boy you sick freak

>>15679314

It don't work like that, boss.

The Virus Gauge is reset when you get a Sukamon, the punishment for getting it full.

Afterwards you have 2 options: either talk with King Sukamon to revert back to your previous mon or leave out the rest of the Sukamon's life.

The first option is good if you're attached to your mon, but otherwise you could just stick Sukamon doing Brain Training until you unlock all Poop techniques. Poop digimons can actually be somewhat half decent with the right techniques and some stats.

Note: I do not recall if a Sukamon gains Virus Gauge when he poops outside of a toilet.

If he does, when you revert or he dies, you'll keep that amount with you. But now that I think about it… What happens if a Sukamon gets a full Virus Gauge?

>>15681112

>virus gauge

isn't it more like a… filth gauge?

>>15679409

Yeah, we all should yiff yaff till there is only spooge all over the place

>>15681112

It's never worth using a numemon or sukamon; their stats get lowered when they evolve, and they gain less stats from training. So they're not worth it (unless you're aiming for monzaemon or etemon respectively, which require 0 care mistakes btw). also sukamon will clear your neglected digimons' previous shits off the map (by literally eating them off the ground).

>>15681149

>isn't it more like a… filth gauge?

its icon is literally dung so probably.

>>15681194

>yiff yaff

Do i know you?

>>15681149

Yes, but it's called Virus. Because we're in the Internet, Billy.

>>15681342

Of course no sane person would aim for any of the 3 shitmons (everyone always forgets about Nanimon seeing how he's the hardest one to get).

Getting them is even a good way to lower your Tamer Level if I remenber correctly.

But if you're stuck with one, Brains training to death is a quick way to pass the time until he keels over and you might unlock all poop techniques that way. You don't have to move, feed or even sleep unless you want to skip time, but the care mistakes from ignoring him will shave off a few years of his lifetime, so there's that.

Failing this, you can actually make them not shit, ironically. They have cheap attacks, loads of them in area and they are fast to boot. You can literally spam shit all day erryday and be viable.

Also, after some research I found out that Sukamon's don't get Virus Gauge when they shit, so if you get one, it's clear and stays clear until you revert or he dies and morphs to a new digimon.

>>15682201

Speed Poop Toss stun locking is almost good as Ice Statue stun locking. Ultimate Poop Hell is just hilarious. Ironically, it's almost fucking impossible to compete in a Filth Tournament because it seems like nobody can even participate, and then when they can they're too weak because Tournaments are way too hard for any Digimon not abusing the Digitamamon glitch.

>>15683620

>Wasn't next order a bit lacking compared to Digimon World?

It's a lot more accessible, and the main story is fairly easy to do without much effort as long as you've played world or Re;digitize. A lot of the fun I got from it was finding the optional digimon.

>Agumon became a greymon when the basic meat farm and some mushrooms was all I had, BIG MISTAKE.

I always try to get the meat farm upgrade as soon as possible, the champions I tend to prefer are heavy motherfuckers that always need a ton of food.

>>15683932

nobody in this game eats as much as Tyrannomon. seriously unless you have 99 of every meat, dont have a tyrannomon. motherfucker eats four times as much as other champions.

>>15690051

That also means nobody in this game poops as much as Tyrannomon ;)

New digimon games for pc when, I really don't want to get a damn bloodbourne machine for this.

>>15690051

I like tyranomon even though hes a knockoff greymon without all the cool shit.

I'm just disappointed that Tamers, with the premise of entering "Digital Fields" and digimon being hidden in the real world, didn't have a Pokemon Go styled game in the works. An augmented reality game involving raising a digimon and picking fights as you go about your day to day sounds way more interesting.

>>15693951

>only 9 pokemon

They already had the right idea with the pokewalker, just give the pokemon something to do other than find items or whatever for the base game.

>>15693951

I'm pretty sure this means Pokemon are canon Digimon. If only it were still 1999 so I could tell my friends on the schoolyard.

>>15681112

>Note: I do not recall if a Sukamon gains Virus Gauge when he poops outside of a toilet.

Sukamon actually eats shit. I watched my brother lament that after I got my kickass Virus Metal Greymon on the first go.

>>15695804

Don't worry, I lost them all once I got too old for it to be socially acceptable to bond over pokemon and digimon. Also it was 2003 and everyone hated Digimon by that point because Frontier was weird and the kids turned into Digimon.

>>15695877

>lost them

i never had them in the first place, that was the intent of my post

>>15682201

i actually might aim for an etemon at some point after I get the secret training manual

>>15693951

Wait, aint tamagochis creator the same one that created the entire digimon franchise?

Wow, so digimon was always the first one.

>>15695955

I know. Just trying to downplay my "briefly had friends in 3rd grade" chad status.

>>15695965

Digimon are literally just Tamagotchis for boys. It's the same company, yes.