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>>15660390

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA

Climbed to 35, haven't even attempted to go beyond that, working on getting my gear up to par.

Did you know that on "shop" days, you don't have to return to the waiting room to reset the wandering shop on set floors? All you have to do is leave the floor and return after one hour. In fact, if you are still in the tower after the day changes, you can continue to visit and reset the shop indefinitely (at least till you run out of money). I recommend simply minimizing the game while you are on the escalator going down from the shop and coming back to it in an hour, every hour.

Neato

I'll see if I'm banned or not after this update, I wasn't for the first ban wave.

So at what point would it be a good idea to fight The Four Forcemen? How tough are they when compared to the final boss? since I can handle him fairly well.

This game is incredibly repetitive.

>>15662885

Fake quote. Ignore all posts from the ID.

>>15662646

Okay so the Forceman's difficulty curve from Normal to Hard is ridiculous.

I was able to get though the Normal fights no sweat, they could barely damage me, then on Hard I get destroyed and can barely damage them, I thought I was at least at the Hard level of the first one, but FUCKING NOPE.

>>15664236

Normal supposedly can be beaten with 3* fighters. It's mostly just a sample so that you can see what the fight looks like. You could probably practice on Normal until you know how to dodge all his attacks properly, since it costs less and you probably won't die.

Hard should probably be done at some point between 41 and 50. One of the quests to unlock the 6th fighter tier (for the shooter) is "reach floor 50 without using any Forcemen gear", so if they didn't expect you to be able to kill the Forcemen at all by that point it would be a pretty redundant quest.

Nightmare of course is basically post-game. Get the best equipment and best fighters from floors 50+ and it should still be hard.

>>15660371

free to play = guaranteed gay

>>15660371

Update when live so the event started, Some heard this is probably in preparation for the No More Heroes event so you should be saving your Death Metals for when it comes around.

>>15665388

>saving your death metals

good luck.

What song tracks do you guys like? I've found 123 to make for pretty decent background noise.

I hit diamond 3 in tdm and climbed the tower to the 23rd floor elevator, and I've really been feeling the enemy scaling lately. I'm hitting 100s on enemy defenders with my revolver now, and screamers are soaking up way too much of my weapon durability/ammo. Should I grind some gear up now or make a few really risky cash for a revive is kind of hard to get now that tdm is so dangerous runs shooting to get past goto and up to floor 25 for new fighters to farm on? I ended up killing jackson on my shooter. That was a bad experience. I burned through 3 assault rifles and 2 magnums getting him down. I probably wouldn't have made it if I didn't abuse dropping a snail while using poison eater for infinite regen. I ended up getting a katana addict premium decal. Do they have a good moveset with decent damage?

>>15665533

Does this still use 6gb+ of ram while running?

>>15665539

That's a pretty good one. You have the in game number?

>>15671072

So that's what that was. Also, I died yesterday after the patch in the dumbest way possible. I blew myself up with the grenade launcher kamas rage move. , but it seemed to be the usual continue for a death metal. Do I have to do something special to get the free one mentioned in the op?

>>15671880

You probably just did it too early. The free revive is working now, you get a screen with uncle death instead of the usual one with the DH girl.

You CAN say "no" and still use it on a later death, so if you want to test if it's working right now go kill yourself on a very low floor (eg floor 1) where you can revive for cheep/free.

>>15671072

Other than slow server connections/disconnects which I highly doubt are actually "fixed" the only problems I've had are with keyboard controls malfunctioning, but that was never anything more than a minor annoyance.

>getting raided by full forcemen all the time now with green faggot kamas

Anyone know the best thing to give my defenders against that shit? I already have my forcemen tanks with the headshot reducing decal

>>15673826

>proud of beating low rank scrubs

wait until the rank 85s start targeting you like they target me

i just got (P) Poison eater yesterday and i am so glad i don't have to farm bronze skillshrooms anymore everytime i want to buy one of those now.

still no sign of the Flamethrower blueprint even though i've opened hundreds of bags. There is also a new weapon that i had never seen before, whose blueprint can apparently only be bought with death metals from the Hernia machine. its the Tactical Shovel. and i've actually seen the Screamers in the Tengoku cage fight boss use it.

Has anybody noticed how the game is heavily biased towards giving you things that you already have? whether its TDM bags or Mushroom Stew. the game insists on giving you things that you already have repeatedly. yesterday i got the same 2* (P) decal 3 times, almost in a row, except for another 2* (P) decal i got in between. i wish they actually told you what the chances of getting things actually are.

>>15673826

nobody invades me, nobody i can win against at least.

is it because im always low on resources? my high rank and TDM tier probably scares people who aren't fully prepared.

>>15674617

It's the low resources your far less likely to be invaded since people won't get much extra from winning.

I usually don't get invaded that much, I just happened to have quite a bit of resources when I stopped playing yesterday.

>>15675639

well, there's not much of a point in logging off with large amounts of resources because i don't have a good defense setup yet. but im working on it.

im going to attempt the 3 other forcemen this sunday, because white steel is a one hit kill for me.

>>15675639

I haven't even bothered setting up a defense. It seems pointless considering how outclassed their gear wou, and I don't want to waste time leveling defenders until I unlock rank 6 units. I kind of wish that you could only be raided when you were off line though. spending everything before every run, coming back to constant 3 minute slow mo self battles, and not being able to reliably use stored cash for purchases at the shop inside barbs is kind of annoying. I think I must have pissed a few people off somehow because I keep getting geared hunters sent to me from the same few names. I'm going to have to build some really annoying hunters at some point and retaliate I am thinking a full tank build with the iron and buzzsaw to just focus on running people out of armor and ammo.

>>15676372

base defense is all about delaying the invader for 3 minutes. so put all those +20% defense decals and equip sets of armor that are of the same family, if you got premium emeralds, use them combined with normal emeralds, and if you happen to be a lucky son of a bitch like me and get a Premium diamond, use it too, unless you're using it on your player fighter to fight tough bosses or climb Tengoku.

>>15676397

Yeah, my armor is kind of poorly developed right now. I'm at tier 2 DIY attack gear with a +4 helm, +3 body, and +3 legs. It seems like a pretty good set right now because it's only weak to bullets, and gun screamers give me the least trouble. However, farming green D.O.D. metals is a bitch with no boss to drop them, and I need 4 more to reach the end of tier 2, and then I've gotta start farming for tier 3 stuff too.

>>15676454

just buy them at Gyakufunsha. also, its a good idea to buy the Reversal Metal on every visit. believe me. you're gonna need tons of them later.

>>15671072

they're real "generous" with compensations about this kind of shit.

its not like 5 DM's last very long anyway.

>>15676397

Base defense is all about scaring people off with a high rank number. If you are rank 70 because you've got 10 5* fighters, people with 5*s themselves are going to leave you alone most of the time. It doesn't matter that those fighters are all level 1 collectors, they don't know that. If you are rank 61 though, people are going to assume your entire defense is nothing but 4* because who would put their ONLY 5* on defense?

You can't beat the 6*s until you are one. Even if you are, there's always someone better and he knows it. You'll almost never get raided at 6* unless you have like a million KC on you though, even a fully geared 6* probably isn't going to bother you to get 10k.

>>15676767

i should have held back on climbing further up the tower until i had completed the 50/50 base defense quests, smdh. im boned now

>>15676804

if your okay with losing your high rank fighters you can set up only lower rank ones with better equipment. that bring your TDM rank back down.

>>15676848

im rank 79 right now, i think i dun fucked up at this point.

>>15676873

I think it's based off your fighter levels. So deleting all your characters and making a bunch of level 1s (possibly tier 1s) will drop your rank. Look into it more before committing though.

>>15676914

i know it works, my point is, i've already invested a lot in my current 6* fighters.

>>15676973

If you put yourself on a small team and hand out your ID so I can find you, I don't mind raiding you and dying once. Speaking of teams, does anyone know which ones get in the most conflicts for death metal farming?

>>15678127

My current team, Akita, is probably one of the best at 15 wins 0 losses, but if it gets any bigger it's going to start having trouble I think.

>>15678255

i guess its nice winning everytime because the other teams have literally no targets to invade in their Fight list.

Any word on fixing the port or am I still fucked if I dont download internet explorer?

>>15678818

What are you even talking about?

>>15678875

Shit port that will crash on launch, downloading the latest internet explorer is a known fix apparently.

>>15678918

I see. Well they did what >>15671072 mentioned. I'm not sure if they cleared up your particular issue though. It might be fixing itself because internet explorer comes with a redistributable you're missing or something, but that's just a guess. Have you tried uninstalling internet explorer after getting the game to work?

>>15678918

I haven't updated windows in like 3 years and it works fine for me. Is this windows 10 issue?

Reminder that windows 10 is for faggots.

>>15679077

>>15679123

Well I cant seem to find out what particular part of it works and downloading the internet explorer itself will just give me an error because I run a pirated windows 7.

>>15679468

i run pirated windows 7 too and the game has worked flawlessly from day 1.

>>15679501

I'm talking about the internet explorer giving an error because of it, after installing it you get asked to restart to finalize the changes. So ive been trying to find out what particular file is needed but I havent been able to so far.

>>15679519

Have you tried verifying your file integrity through steam? Sometimes that fixes issues like this.

Link to full OST including 'unused' tracks for the PAX demo

http://pc.joshw.info/l/Let%20It%20Die%20(2018-09-26)(Grasshopper%20Manufacture)(GungHo%20Online).7z

If I could play the game offline, I would actually keep playing after floor 40.

>>15679763

about fucking time the OST was released. it better not be dolphin porn you fucking nigger

>>15680114

Is there a reward for freeing people's hostages when you raid them? I've done it once or twice, but haven't seen one indicated. Is it just something you can do to fuck with them? Also, the pitching machine has improved my life a lot by breaking people's banks and killing any coens that come out of an alarm.

>>15680950

im not sure really. i haven't noticed any kind of reward for rescuing fighters.

but maybe you get bags?

>>15681005

That could be. I've been wondering about the drop chances on those for a while.

I still haven't gotten the blueprint for the stupid Shuriken despite having already gotten it to level 20 from picking it up off the corpses of other haters constantly.

Not that it matters since it probably wouldn't be that useful by this point anyway.

>>15679637

Nothing, latest update gave me a bit of hope but it just extends the black screen on launch for 10 more seconds before it crashes. Suggestions are that I update my windows 7 (which I cant because pirated OS) and install internet explorer 11 (which I cant because pirated OS). Guess ill miss out on a few games if the track record of these jap ports says anything, I wont ever be giving microsoft my money though.

>>15681064

have you tried reinstalling a windows 7 that isn't complete fucking garbage? i use win7 64x, activated with DaZloader, and then i install the Service Pack 1 on top.

you're gonna have to do some troubleshooting to find the exact cause, that problem should not be happening.

the game has a Log file in its folders, go look at it to see what it says and maybe file in a ticket with gungho on the game site.

>>15681611

I dont know if it's my bad english but what I am trying to say is the problem I am having is that I cannot download the bullshit from the microsoft site because once its installing it will detect I am using a pirated version of windows and stop.

>>15681909

look up the problem on google? i mean come on, that sounds like a simple activation issue.

>i cant update my windows 7 because its pirated

lurk more you fag.

>>15682090

I really think you should be able to install updates. From all the pirated OSes I've used and things I've seen you shouldn't be locked out. Have you tried the steps listed at support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/973135/how-to-download-a-windows-update-manually to get what you need? Are you using this link to get IE 11 support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/18520/download-internet-explorer-11-offline-installer ? What errors are you getting?

>>15680114

>playing as a bitch

>promoting dykery

Fuck off, waifu cuck. God damn get the fuck out. Stop playing. End yourself. Everybody like you. Die. All shit like you does is cause stagnation and degeneracy. Get your fucking useless head ripped off you fucking faggot.

this is some prime tard-rage on internet format >>15683415

>>15683512

I'm pretty sure I see a bra.

>>15683520

hmm i must be thinking of another capture i did the same day. for some reason the day of the screenshot i captured like 5 fighters, never had my bathroom so full.

Looks like the tdm season is ending in 22 hours if anyone wanted to farm a rank or two for better bags. I'm trying to make the climb from diamond 2 to 1.

>>15683531

Yeah, I've had a few times where hostages were dropping left and right. It's funny and sad when you have two get knocked out in the same base.

>>15683586

im already like 9500 TDM points in.

when invading is the best reliable source of KC and SPL, TDM rank is just a thing that happens on the background.

>>15683621

Yeah, I think that you get a weapon blueprint or something for being in diamond at the end of it though. So anyone who's already plat 1 or 2 should probably farm it.

>>15683638

Blueprints drop from Gold bags. I'm not sure what all plats drop but I've got a couple Orange metals from them so far. I'd rather purple.

I still haven't seen the Flamethrower blueprint.

>>15683638

you get better bags. and thats it. i've been diamond 1 for 2 weeks now (this will be my third week as diamond 1 at the end of the week) and all i've got from bags is decals and purple/orange metals.

still no flamethrower BP.

>>15683691

Do the quests for collecting 500 animals/mushrooms, and killing 1000 screamers reset today too? I might need to prioritize doing those if that is the case.

>>15683691

i completed both of the 10 gold bag quests and opened them all, all i got was shit and repeated shurikens, like fucking 5 shuriken BPs but no Flamethrower

>>15683701

no, those won't reset until next season. do you even read the message scrolling at the bottom when you open the game? it says the event will run until january 7th.

>>15683708

I get that the event isn't ending, but I was under the impression that seasonal and kill floor 10/20/30/40 boss quest rewards reset to their original state at some point.

>>15683415

>Playing as a mostly-naked dude

>Promoting homosex

Literally 90-95% of the game you play with 0 armor because that shit is expensive and breaks easy. Never play a dude unless you are gay, faggot.

>>15660605

Reminder: Today is moving shop day (every sunday/wednesday/friday). You can park yourself on the escalator between 27/Yukiyoshi and whatever is nearest to the shop. Leave the game running on the "Next area" button LEAVING the shop floor, come back in an hour and buy more stuff. The shop resets on the next time you load the floor 60 minutes after the previous load-in, so maybe write down the times so you don't waste any.

Did they ever fix those issues where the game crashes on startup?

>>15683941

I never had those issues so I don't know.

>>15683935

>just afk all day bruh

excuse me but i've got forcemen to fight and materials to farm, i can't afk on an escalator all day like a faggot. if i need materials i'll just run back to it.

>>15683970

/mu/ please

>>15683960

That's fine, especially if you are already past floor 40 anyway in which case you can easily get red metals and tier 4-5 materials. If you are still somewhere around floor 29-34 especially, it's a good strategy.

Furthermore, you can leave your character there whenever you need to do something else (go out, go to sleep whatever), come back to it later and buy a quick few extra items. Also, the daily rotation only changes when you return to the waiting room, so you can still be there on monday buying shit till your KC runs out.

>>15683737

What's different in the other event-seasons, do you know? I'm fairly sure they are and will be the same every year, so once the pumpkinshrooms are gone what replaces them and are there any other quests?

>>15684052

its the same except instead of pumpkin shrooms its umbrella shrooms for the summer, snowman shrooms for the winter, and so on.

>>15684074

If I'm looking at the right ones, the Winter shrooms restore durability. Probably a really tiny fucking amount, the Wiki says Bronze are +50, but if that's out of the ~1400 durability a non-upgraded item has it's completely worthless. Summer and Spring are sell for gold and consume for XP respectively right?

I wonder if they all restore 600/3000/9000 HP or if that's fall-exclusive. The wiki doesn't even mention the pumpkinshrooms healing effect, even though that's by far the more valuable effect for anyone below tier 6.

I started yesterday and today I got a Cyclone Shuriken BP out of my first Lost Bag. Am I set now?

>>15685022

no.

>>15685022

The shuriken is a good weapon for quickly killing weakly armored enemies, it's hard to avoid and has good durability, but the damage is low and almost completely negated by equal level armor.

It's one of the best weapons for raiding and it's good to have, but it's a side weapon. You need a high damage main weapon to go with it.

>>15685022

the third boss in the game is almost immune to it.

>>15687352

That's because of the ranged immunity.

>>15687370

poison immunity + huge piercing resistance

i think the number is like 97% reduced damage, all bosses usually reduce all damage by 50% with piercing taking a larger reduction in general

I noticed that helmets can increase or decrease all stats except luck, to my knowledge every since set has a 000% effect to the stat, I wonder if they'll add anything since it would be cool to have a set to help with grinding out things like bullet or reverse metals.

>>15687500

luck is critical hit rate, it doesnt boost your droprate.

>>15687540

The game says it influences the amount of kill coins you receive as well as hit rate.

So it does that, but not the droprate? if that's true that's kind of retarded.

>>15687576

its KC droprate and critical hit rate. not item/chest droprate.

>>15687655

>>15687540

It's not known for sure one way or the other. It doesn't hurt to run a Lucky Star if you are hunting for tuber metals. Collector also has pretty good luck.

Since Luck definitely does affect crit rate, it's not a stat to ignore either.

I rolled a juggler premium decal (faster reload), and this thing is game changing. It took my reload time from about 2 seconds down to about .5 making it so I don't have to carry around 3 assault rifles to avoid combat reloading. Also, raging bull decal seems a bit strong if I'm understanding the way stats work in this game. Doubling up on it with a premium one boosts you to 120% increased attack and defense. 180% if you take the lower tier too. It seems like the damage formula is something like damage dealt = (attack * damage type modifier from armor) - defense. So if you have enough defense you just null the damage. Meaning the defense portion of raging bull makes you near invulnerable to normal sources of damage so long as you have some base defense (armor isn't broken). Also, the highly increased damage means you'll lose less weapon durability on every encounter on top of being able to deal so much more damage. Add on to that the fact that life shrooms are very accessible, and running around under 15% hp is starting to look really appealing. I can't see it being useful for tdm because you get healed at the start and end of every run, but for barbs farming it seems like a good idea.

>>15688492

Can you reload guns manually or do you have to empty the magazine?

>>15688748

Hold action button (F) and press the attack button corrosponding to the gun weapon slot (eg left click, for a gun in your left hand).

>>15688754

While you are at it, you can hold F and press the weapon swap button (eg 1) to immediately drop that weapon. Useful for exactly nothing.

>>15688757

I use that a lot though. If I've got a gun with no ammo or a weapon with 1 hit left, I just drop them so they don't clutter my death bag if I grab something else.

>>15688821

ranged weapons (piercing dmg) scale off of DEX

melee weapons (slash and blunt dmg) scale off of STR

>>15688882

So that means Flamethrowers scale off Strength? They do blunt+fire.

I would have assumed any attack that uses ammo is dex, any attack that does not use ammo is strength

>>15688904

I JUST got it like 10 minutes ago, and now I'm farming up mats. Looks like I can get it to tier 4 without needing purple metal/special steel (or equivalent tier bullshit), which has some insane damage numbers.

>>15688882

Oh, so every ranged weapon is piercing and vice versa?

Whack, but would explain a lot of weird shit like the piercing shuriken and slashing spear and saber.

>>15688911

My bad, tier 4 requires tier 6 alumninum. I'm sure I'll find one of those somewhere

>>15688898

Flamethrower is pierce, this >>15688882 information seems to be correct. The wiki was wrong.

>>15688964

alloy 9048, you can find it in floors 41-50 on the DESIGNATED aluminum floors, or you can find it in tengoku during the aluminum rotation.

here's a very interesting detail i've noticed about Tengoku, materials in here follow a pattern.

Cloth > Wood > Iron > Oil > Aluminum > Copper > Cloth ….

>>15689006

Yeah I haven't cleared 40 yet, everything below tier 6 can be made with moving shop parts, and there's a rare chance to get tier 6 materials from platinum TDM bags or the vending machine.

>>15689035

before the tengoku update, the hernia machine even had a chance of selling purple metals for Kill Coins, but then they changed that, now purple metals are DM only and very very rarely you get tier 5-6 materials for KC.

couple of days ago i bought 5 Biofuel for 40k, that was pretty good.

>>15689178

Question about that decal, "fatigue time decrease", does this mean you recover faster overall, or is it referring to the time you spend "out of breath"?

>>15689240

time you spend out of breath and stamina consumed while running.

>>15689255

So with Marathon Runner it's probably more efficient time-wise to run until your stamina is completely gone rather than alternating run/walk

>>15689262

I think you can double up on the premium/normal decals and just sprint forever.

>>15689299

yep. you can even do that with the Olympic Athlete decal (-50% stamina consumption when dodging) and also dodge forever.

>>15689365

Do you know how quickly the out of stamina animation goes by if you have two of the marathon runners equipped? If it's instant, then I could definitely see running that on a melee character and just ignoring stamina entirely.

>gamesfourever

Why does this cuck have forcemen gear on 3 star fighters?

>get to floor 30

>wipe the floor with Crowley

>get to floor 31

>ambushed by 3 screamers hanging off the side of the building that are using electric rapier, moto cycle, and pitching machine

>pitching machine destroys me pretty much single handedly

>try to raid some people for money to revive

>every single base on the list is a 9 or 10 hater ordeal made by somebody twinking with post game gear and alarms so they can complete the successful defenses quest

>would end up using more money for weapons to beat their tanky haters down than I would get at the end of the raid

>assuming they don't tap me on the shoulder with a single kamas bullet at some point

I really dislike that screamer encounters are harder than the previous floors boss. Also, tdm reset sucks to play around, and it should be made into a monthly event.

>>15690168

>I really dislike that screamer encounters are harder than the previous floors boss.

get gud

>Also, tdm reset sucks to play around

how does it suck?

>and it should be made into a monthly event.

weekly is fine. getting bags is already shitty enough to get even less bags.

>>15690220

It sucks because for the first couple days after reset everyone who isn't an active twink drops down to plat. A better system wouldn't reset at all, and would instead make climbing in the first place more variable and ability-based instead of just grind.

>>15690237

just get better and you'll be getting diamond bags every week, whats the problem?

>>15690272

Im already getting them, problem is just farming KC

>>15690272

It's easy to get diamond bags. You just need to wait until a day or two after reset, then start raiding. The problem is making money through tdm after a reset. I don't think skill is taken into damage calculations, and there is a time limit on raiding. Also, there are decals for anti brainshrooming, confusing, etc so mushroom cheese isn't always an option. Additionally, post game shit has about 3x the durability of everything else so breaking a twink's gear isn't exactly an option either. If you don't have the damage numbers to win even in theory, then having all the skill in the world won't change that. Even if you somehow win you will have used so many weapons that even a capped bank wouldn't reimburse you.

>>15690311

skill is good but it won't compensate for the numbers in this game. farm strong gear and go invade, predicting the strength of the enemy you're invading is pretty easy if you haven't figured it out yet, invade more.

>>15690311

You realize if you hit low rank targets with nothing in the bank, odds are good 3 out of 4 won't even have defenders

>>15690331

All the information you get about targets is a name, kc amount, spl amount, rank, and tdm score. The only one that is supposed to represent progression is rank, and these faggots are purposely abusing the system to make that lower than what it should be. It's a strong hint that the target will have heavy resistance if they've got 40k kc means they've been playing enough to get their bank up to a decent rank, but I'm talking about raiding guys with 50kc so you can profit off of the bonus.

>>15690345

Go raid rank 50s in diamond right after reset. They're basically all twinks.

>>15690352

how shit is your gear? i mean im invading pretty easy but thats because i got White Steels armor, i got Night Raider uncapped armor, and i got the Dragon buster sword and the Bowling Crusher both uncapped to +8 and +7.

predicting the enemy strength is easy with the rank. if the rank is below <=55, you know it only has rank 4 fighters, regardless of gear, thats an easy kill.

if the rank is 85 you should step back, but if the rank is 78 or 79 you know thats not that many 6* fighters to deal with.

there is literally no penalty for losing an invasion now, like there was in the past, so what do you have to lose other than some durability and maybe your time?

>>15690367

You realize most of us are still climbing right? The person you are talking to is probably only at 4* himself, and desperately needs the cash just to upgrade some basic gear.

>>15690367

>how shit is your gear?

About what you'd expect from somebody that just farmed the 20s. My kamas E is hitting less than 30 on non blocked shots. I've got a bronson magnum that helps with people that are only slightly above me, but even that won't do shit to the average defender right now. I don't expect to be able to plow through people that have a higher rank than me, but it would be nice if I had a theoretical chance at winning against someone that is supposed to be the same rank as me. Again, this isn't typically such a problem. It only becomes a common enough occurrence to be a problem after a rank reset. Anyone who isn't online to raid people gets thrown into platinum after a single defense loss so only the offline people that have a really solid defense are left. So at this point diamond is made up of people who are active enough to be online and raiding within hours of reset (probably also active enough to have top end gear on defenders) and people that haven't been successfully raided yet (strong defense). I've tried sticking to people that are my rank or lower, only going after people that have a tdm score higher than 3600 lowering the possibility that the person has stayed in diamond by having a 100% defense rate, and targeting people that have a low kc/spl amount. None of that has made my matches any more even.

>there is literally no penalty for losing an invasion now, like there was in the past, so what do you have to lose other than some durability and maybe your time?

You're right about this, but you originally asked how tdm reset sucked to play around. It makes the match ups drastically more difficult if you have low end gear, and at this point I'd rather just stop playing for 24 hours and wait for things to go back to normal. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiers other than diamond suffer the same fate.

>>15690367

>trying to reach 30

<lmao jus git gud

Did you blow in from fucking reddit? You're extremely prideful for this game, like you want people to respect you so badly for something so pointless. You haven't at all begun to eexplain what and why certain ranks are easy kills or bosses that are a joke other than "not many 6* fighters".

Now fuck it with the pride and either show us what we need to do, or fuck on off back to wherever ego circle jerk you came from. you're accomplishing nothing but stroking your own ego.

Also where the fuck are people getting steel from so easily? I've only found a few from tdm bags and the daily vendor. And like fucking hell I'm dropping what meager DM I have for 1 steel.

>>15690352

For what I've found out, the tdm score can be a good indicator on their defense, like if you get wins +59 and loses 0 he probably has a very high defense but wins 0 loses -19 then you can probably win pretty easily, I may be wrong tho.

What I do for KC farming is raiding completely naked, only with weapons, trying not to guard at all, only dodging and avoid using rage moves as they decrease your weapons durability quite fast.

If everyone is way stronger than you then the only thing you can do is try to decrease your rank, however, doing that is pretty hard as you get a lot more points from winning than what you lose from losing.

>>15690504

steel is a common drop from floors 31-40

>>15690545

forgot to remove flag

>>15690545

>For what I've found out, the tdm score can be a good indicator on their defense, like if you get wins +59 and loses 0 he probably has a very high defense but wins 0 loses -19 then you can probably win pretty easily, I may be wrong tho.

I think their ui does kind of a shit job describing what that is. I think you think it represents how many wins and losses the player has had. I thought that for a while myself, but I found out that it is actually the amount of tdm score you would get on a win or lose on a loss. Unfortunately, that number seems to be derived solely from what their tdm score is, and after reset everyone has the same number in those slots because everyone has the same tdm score. So when you need to properly size up your opponents the most that form of measurement gets fucked up. Going naked is probably a good idea. I think I'll probably have enough gear to be okay next reset, but right now I'm sitting on a 170k kc resurrection cost, my main form of money making is considerably more harsh, and I don't have confidence I won't just end up dead again within 5 minutes of resurrecting. I think it's best that I just take a break for a while and let things cool off.

>>15690374

>You realize most of us are still climbing right?

yes, but his complains are still silly, even for a guy around the 20's

>but there's a time limit! of course there is, you cant expect to be in their waiting room forever, people could just kill the train station area and then afk there to grief players trying to get back into their rooms

>but muh skill if you can't even make a general prediction of enemy strength, you don't have much of it

>but anti-shroom decals! that literally nobody uses because there's far better decals to put in your measly 5 slots than those, just for the rare off-chance occasion that somebody brings a shroom to an invasion

if you're not up to fighting, invade weaker people. if thats not an option, farm KC by running floors repeatedly. i dont get what the problem is. hell, today is monday, that means KillCoin rotation, where you can run to Kankamata in the lower floors and open a bunch of chests full of coins to fund your trips to the moving shop.

>>15690498

>waaa pride

did you just blow in from resetera you faggot?

im saying his complains are silly because he's too low level to go after targets with 50k killcoins and SPL, dont expect having an easy time and weapons that do 10k+ damage if you don't put in the time and the grind.

>lmao just git gud

sort of, its more like "lmao just put the same amount of grind hours everybody else has" than "git gud".

>>15690632

the +/- number indicates how many points you'll get/lose when you win/lose the invasion, its so obvious im amazed anyone has any problem figuring it out.

if they're higher tier in TDM, you get more points, if they're lower, you get very little. however you always get a bonus for the amount of things you killed in the invasion.

>>15690632

Yeah I also though those numbers where the wins and loses the other player had, still, a few days after the reset they can be useful.

Well today the 200k kc quest is available again and it should be pretty easy to do for anyone over floor 20, also there is the defeat 50 screamers for 50k kc.

Another way to make some kc is sending your extra fighters on expeditions, it may not be that much, but it adds up when you send them repeatedly, you'll also get mushrooms, equipment and beast that you can sell for extra cash.

Something you can do is making another character and start farming materials from lower floors until you have enough to ress your main, also you get a minimum of 1k kc every time you defeat a hater, so while leveling up and farming you'll also get some kc at the same time. You can probably go from floors 1 to 10 naked with a rank 3 character quite easily or a rank 2 if you're careful, it's even easier with the poison eater decal and a snail in your inventory.

>>15690685

>That entire first half of your post

You may want to head back to reddit, you're ego is way too big for this thread.

>>15690685

I've explicitly stated that I've been trying to raid targets with low kc and spl. I've also been raiding people with the lowest rank and taking tdm score into account for what it is worth right now. It's cool if you want to say I lack skill because I can't overcome this brick wall of post game twinks, but don't try to twist what it is I'm complaining about. I've been saying that I don't like the weekly tdm score reset, and I don't think I could have been any more clear about that. The only thing I can think of that would lead you to thinking I'm complaining about not being able to raid people for 50k kc is poor reading comprehension. On the other hand you have been making vague statements about how it is so easy for you to tell which targets will be soft and how your skill can easily overcome massive gear differences. Please, tell me which of the defenders' stats am I overlooking that tells me a base is unguarded in this situation. How should I got about killing 5 defenders I can't damage? How do I keep that within a range where I spend less than 10k kc to make a profit at the end of it?

>>15690774

>how should i go about killing 5 defenders i can't damage? How do I keep that within a range where I spend less than 10k kc to make a profit at the end of it?

sounded like whining to me, but i could be wrong. i mean you're expecting to profit off of invasions without having even reached Bttt. you can, but it requires some meticulous grind.

the solution is getting better gear. its that simple. game is a powercreep.

you said you just defeated crowley right? farm some candle wolf black metal from GOTO on 23F, he's right next to the elevator. that should kick some of your armor and weapons up a tier. and the Kawabe gold chest. everyone has to go through the kawabe gold chest phase.

as for KC, fund your repeated trips and fights with expeditions. they're literally free money with no consequence for losing.

i cant really tl;dr this advice any other way

On what fighter tier should I start grinding for decals and armor/ materials?

>>15691105

All of them? Once you have access to the shop on floor 27 you can basically make anything pre "end game". For armor, focus primarily on Chest armor, it offers more defense and degrades slower, a single piece of chest armor will probably be all you need for all but the toughest fights. Push for 5* when you can but I wouldn't worry too much about 6* since you have to pretty much beat the game to even start unlocking them.

>>15691105

>grinding for decals

well, you can always buy one or two stews a day, see what you get

>and armor/ materials?

you start grinding materials at level 1, and never stop. every area brings a new wave of equipment and materials that allow you to develop the next tier of gear.

>>15691135

i'd say focus on ONE chest armor and ONE leg armor, instead of multiple different ones.

>>15691190

>i'd say focus on ONE chest armor and ONE leg armor, instead of multiple different ones.

That helps, but personally I'm finding that it's better to just neglect the leg and head armor almost entirely. Wearing chest ONLY is an efficient way to survive. Wearing all three at once is ludicrously expensive and they break so fast as not to be worth it.

>>15691283

One thing you can do though, notice that the resistances and attribute bonuses do NOT increase with armor levels. If you just want to wear a cheap tier 1 head/leg for resists and bonuses that might be worth the cost.

>>15691283

not a bad thing to do if you want to save money.

>>15691135

>>15691190

Thanks I'm getting my ass kicked at floor 19 so I wanted to know if it was worth it to just grind for good weapons and armor since or if that's not efficient.

>>15691641

defeating jackson is pretty easy. all you need to do is find one stingshroom, and one transparagus.

though, ideally, you'd rather defeat it the fair way. in order to save yourself some grinding pain later on. have at least some War Ensemble related armor and weapons at +4. Jin Die in KAGA 16F drops green metals. you can also run the NOKEJIRI 11F gold chest on available days for random greens. the rest of the materials you can find all of them in KAMOTO 13F.

the most useful WE weapons are the KAMAS and the machete. though the KAMAS rifle has a special version, the KAMAS-RE (the one thats sold for recycle points in the hernia machine) which is superior to the regular kamas in every way. it has more damage, more durability, more ammunition, and larger magazine (so you can shoot more before having to reload).

the KAMAS-RE is an upgrade in every conceivable way, and i haven't found any downsides to it, but then again, thats just because i havent developed it yet, and it doesn't drop from random haters like the regular KAMAS does.

>>15691774

>stingshroom

I keep seeing this being talked about, but the tooltip seems to imply just double damage which doesn't seem like much when you're doing nil to him. Whats the secret?

>>15691105

you cook the stingshroom to do 120% more dmg, make sure its not a red stingshroom

>>15691774

Thanks again. One last thing I’ve been using death medals for storage expansion is this the proper way to go about it? Should I just have 2 collector fighters horde my items?

>>15691925

Your doing it right you need quite a bit of space, having beaten the main 40 floors now i'v got about 270 storage for all my shit, it goes to 800 I think, but for me at least i'v seem to have gotten to a point where i'm using what I gather and it's staying at around 200's.

You still need space for gold beasts and rare materials you can't use just yet.

>>15691774

The main downside to the RE is that it costs a million recycle points. By the time you get that, you could already have upgraded a regular KAMAS to tier 4. The same goes for the Longsword RE. In fact, I'll be able to uncap a Longsword as soon as I find 3 more Silver Skillshrooms (already have 2x special steal, thanks Hernia), and I only have ~200k Recycle points. If I sold off ALL of my "defender" class decals I could just barely make it now.

>>15693304

Oh, right, the OTHER downside is that they glow bright green. Anyone can spot from a mile away if your defender/hater/hunter has an RE weapon and they WILL take the threat seriously because almost everyone who has RE weapons has them at tier 4. If you use a regular tier 4 Kamas you can take raiders by surprise.

>>15691789

kill a scorpion.

>>15691842

it doesn't really matter, for jackson, any will do. having a weapon with attack above 100/150 and the invisibility shroom (either an umbrella rib or transparagus) is what really counts.

>>15691925

literally the most efficient way to use DM, second would be buying (P) decals during an event like the one that ended yesterday, where it guaranteed you a 4* decal.

i have 500 storage slots and im full again. so yeah, pump that storage space up.

>>15693304

>The main downside to the RE is that it costs a million recycle points.

500k. the 1m point blueprints are the -RE armor setpieces. both the KAMAS-RE and the Longsword-DE cost 500k recycle points. which aren't really that hard to get, just buy more stew and recycle the trash.

>Expecting COEN (floor 36) to be a problem like he was the first time I encountered him

>5 bullets

>>15693519

Ok, so I can sell some of the less useful Defender decals (shit I get in lost bags) and afford ONE of the two RE blueprints. Right now I use both longsword and kamas, both are at tier 4. I don't mind leveling up another since I know it's better, the question is which one.

The KAMAS is without a doubt the more powerful of the two, but I can only level it to tier 4+1. However, I'm already prepared to level the longsword to tier4+5. If I bought the Longsword RE I could hold off on that and get the RE version to Tier4+5 instead, I'll probably have to wait for the thursday event to get the skillshrooms for that, I could level up the non-RE to tier 4+5 today.

Does anyone know how damage stacking works in this game? Does 100% damage increase from stingshroom on top of 300% damage increase from gold oak equal 500% of base damage (1+(1.00+3.00)) or 800% of base damage (1*(2*4))? The wording on superalloy makes me think it would be multiplicative "deal 20% more damage to enemies when their hp is 70% or more", but oakshrooms' "attack up x%" sounds more like it would be additive. It seems somewhat easy to verify. However, I've searched around, but I haven't found anyone that has tested it.

>>15695104

Good to know.

>>15695114

No idea, but if you are going to test it, I recommend doing it on a bank during a raid with fists, that way you can get multiple tests with the same attack on the same target without changing durability or any other variables

>>15695114

good question. im not really sure about that one even with all the hundreds of hours i've put into the game.

>>15695210

>>15695171

Alright, so I did a really basic test and hit a bank on a raid using fists and buffs. I used a t4 shooter with 78 str, only damage decal was a premium giant slayer, and hit a level 16 kc bank using only the first hit from my left fist. Base hits were in a range from 201-210. Using a grilled red stingshroom +75% brought the range up to 349-363. I hit it one time with a grilled oak shroom +150% luckily it didn't crit because it was my only one, and it dealt 887 damage. The expected range for the hit would have been 653-682 if damage was additive, and it would have been 879-919 if multiplicative. It fell cleanly into the multiplicative range. So, it looks like oakshroom + stingshroom, the combo that sounded least likely to work out, is multiplicative. We'd need to test other stuff to say for sure, but I'd be willing to bet it all works the same. If the numbers stack the same for defense, then that makes raging bull builds look even more attractive.

>>15695981

Guns are nice, but there's no way a 20% boost is doing THAT much.

>>15696062

Its all a numbers game. Alone it isn't much, but I need more skillshrooms and premium decals so I can stack it with others. And considering the highest tier sniper rifle can one shot jackals with the right skills and shrooms, I'd say it might be worth it.

>>15696426

i didn't know that either. thats some super luck

>>15696488

Just checking, I've only ever earned one "rainbow" Lost Bag (From the 100 raids quest) and it had 5 death metals. I assumed it was standard at the time, but is it?

>>15696530

no its not, i got a shitty decal from my rainbow lost bag. it wasnt even fucking worth the 100 invasions.

>>15696360

You have to march all the way from floor 41 to there, right? How do you go about keeping durability high? Is it just a matter of bringing in 6 melee weapons and 20 fun fungus? Bringing in 4 weapons to the mid 30s I can barely make it 3 floors without feeling the need to restock.

>>15696607

41-50 is the Battle to the Top area.

51+ is tengoku, you start at 52 and go up, with a boss every 5 floors.

>How do you go about keeping durability high?

uncapped armor. or 44CE armor.

uncapped armor has 4x the durability, 44CE armor has 10.5x the durability.

>>15696643

wiki mentions you can only bring 5 items past floor 51, that still accurate? If so, his question still seems valid to me, even with uncapped/forcemen gear that would only seem to get you through maybe 5-10 floors instead of the 1-2 you get from normal gear.

>>15696656

because every 5 rooms there is a boss, and you get access to a Chokufunsha shop after the boss, like the one in the waiting room, with hitler and all.

the twist is that this shop is limited to 3 items per visit. so you should plan around that because time limits on purchasing still apply.

>>15696707

>time limits on purchasing still apply

What limit?

>>15696740

the time limit you get on an item whenever you buy it

>>15696756

Oh the manufacture cooldown or whatever you call it. Thought you meant something else, like a set amount of time to buy anything at all.

>>15697786

By money I mean "kill coins", I'm not that foolish.

>>15697786

I'm still climbing, and I've gotten a good number of 3 stars, and maybe 3 or 4 4 stars. It's just a matter of spamming it until you get what you want. I really would like to somehow take the stat discount ones out of my pool though. I really want to get serial killer, katana+outfit bonus, and assault rifle+outfit bonus decals, but I doubt I'll ever spin it enough to get that shit.

>>15697845

The only 4*s I've gotten so far are spear+outfit and +30% crit, not counting lost bag decals that I get tons of of course, crowd pleaser isn't bad.

>>15697845

I've got katana, axe, and chainsaw addicts, and the reload speed one. I don't actually have a leveled katana, axe, or chainsaw though.

>>15698250

That's pretty amazing. I'll need to bring some with me from now on.

>>15698273

i got shuriken, pitching machine, nailgun, and mother fucking Boxing Glove addict.

>>15698463

>>15698493

The safest place to wait is on the escalator. There's a confirmation before moving on to the next floor, so just wait at the perpetual load screen and nothing will bother you.

Jackals only spawn when all the enemies on the floor are dead, so you really just got unlucky.

>>15698569

Are you on a pretty early floor? Dying on floors before 20 really isn't too bad. You can recover all your items by paying a fee which is very farmable from tokyo death metro, and you can get your character back using the freebie salvage if you don't think the fee is worth the amount of items you had.

>>15698630

you should let him know that freebie salvage wipes your inventory.

>>15698630

Freebie salvage is disabled on floors over 20, at that point you have to kill your own Hater if you don't want to pay (which still wipes everything but premium decals).

Is there any point where pay salvage is no longer an option, say tengoku or something?

>>15698672

Salvage caps off at about 250k I think, so it becomes the same regardless of how high you are after 40.

>>15698672

nah, you can always pay to retrieve your fighter with its inventory intact.

like 96e01a said, the cost caps at 250k, at around floor 36, dying anywhere higher just costs the same amount to retrieve.

>>15699714

Is there anything worth farming over just running TDMs?

>>15699737

+9 gear and bloodnium I'd guess.

>>15699793

I meant KC. luck and that decal are for getting more KC from drops/chests, but as far as I know you don't get enough KC that way to be worth the time, unless you just happen to need a few low-tier mats and might as well take the lucky star over the collector.

>>15699737

Materials, the bags are a crap shoot and I've never gotten more than maybe 5 a day.

I was actually looking at the menu for redesigning my hub, and I saw that I had some items from the summer set unlocked pillars and the fountain floor. Is that something I got from an event, lost bags, or tower progression? I'm absolutely positive I didn't buy it.

>>15699803

TDM is for SPL/KC farming, anything else is incidental. The question is why would you make a dedicated KC farmer instead of farming KC the faster way.

As for lost bags, I tend to get a bag every-other raid on average, so I can easily get 10 bags in 30 minutes.

>>15699816

Diamond tier is a pain in the ass to hunt down fat KC targets who aren't low rank four foreskin fags. I'd rather punch my way up the tower with a lucky star than waste money on weapons for failed raids.

>>15699814

I had those unlocked too and I started 2 days ago, pretty sure I didnt see them unlocked because of rewards or anything.

>>15699828

Quantity over quality. If you hit someone with only 5k, but clear the raid in 60 seconds, that's still 15k+ in two minutes. Bigger targets aren't generally worth the risk, at least not before you know you can handle it.

>>15699841

True, but I'll still have the overhead of my weapon's cost, and still the off shoot of a defender with sniper rifle + volcano + super volcano cheese.

>>15699864

You can do like 20 easy raids on a single shuriken. If it's not easy, just die and try another one. It happens, but not often.

>>15699871

>It happens, but not often.

For me it happens way too often. I can maybe attack sub 1000 KC targets with moderate success. Anything else is foreskin fags or uncapped shit. Not to mention with that growing pile of SPL I'll be getting, anyone over 70 will ravage my asshole effortlessly.

>>15699864

>>15699871

I recommend the magnum and kamas. Kamas is great for dealing with melee defenders because you can cheese them really hard by just walking backwards and aiming in for a quick tap every few seconds. They walk towards you at the speed they do while guarding, but every shot hits them while their guard is down. You can even get headshots depending on your aim. If you buy one of those +70% damage on head shot decals for 2 gold skillshrooms and +20% damage on two hand weapons, then you could kill people really cost effectively this way. Magnum is great for cleaning up ranged defenders because they tend to just guard when you close in. A single hit deals massive damage, guard breaks, and sets them up to be shot again. The kamas cheese completely makes a joke of those shuriken defenders people love to use still helps to bring poison eater, and the magnum can stun lock those god awful neon green kamas defenders until they die. You can even swap to another magnum when you need to reload if you want to continue the lock. Reloading can be a bit of a problem, but you can somewhat safely reload one gun during the time it takes for a dead defender to be replaced. Also, taking in multiple guns and switching instead of reloading if you're in a pinch is a pretty good idea.

Besides their performance on defenders, there are also a lot of side benefits to going ranged. Coen is weak to piercing damage, and guns deal with tubers really well. You will probably see the most benefit against the flying ones. The noncommittal nature of the kamas also makes you much safer when attacking while fighting multiple enemies, and the range means you don't have to approach if the slower tubers, scratch or reversal, are spawned. Also, I'm not sure if they're in tdm, but the magnum makes short work of those really fast and jumpy ones because it guard breaks. With guns you can also get the survivability bonus from armor while spending a lot less on it. You're pretty much always out of the enemies range, and when you aren't you've got safe options for dealing with them hide behind a pillar and wait or rush them at an angle, then blow their brains out with a magnum. A good offense really is the best defense when you're paying for each hit you take. Magnums are also good candidates to destroy banks with because their rage move hits for insane damage my 4* magnum hits banks for 30k noncrit and they end up with extra durability once you are out of ammo. Don't try using their rage move on defenders though, they dodge at the last second every time, and I think they're invuln to range during the dodge.

>>15700078

I just wish melee lasted longer than 2-3 floors past 20. And I have no idea how he can use the shuriken for 20 raids when mine flat out breaks after about 10 or so.

>>15700078

I find kamas rage works quite wall on defenders who are just spamming block. No need to rage the bank when you kill it in 2 bullets or less anyway.

Still, i get more use out of the shuriken. The return is unblockable, so against anything without crazy high armor it just takes 1 or 2 throws and there's nothing they can do about it. Working on a magnum now for that guard break

>>15700287

Yeah, the magnum rage move on banks is mostly if I'm short on time or I have a 0 ammo magnum lying around. I usually just use a pitching machine; I feel like it has a really good damage to cash ratio. I just unlocked the recycle point kamas, and I'm working on getting it up. I imagine that I'll start using more kamas rage moves with this due to the increased durability. The magnum really does a lot against any ranged defender. It kind of sucks when it decides to miss, but that happens a lot less than the times it shreds really annoying defenders.

Am I missing some source of bloodnium or will I encounter it more on higher floors? Currently ive found 2 shrooms that gave me some but from the look of it I would need to find 1000s more to actually get shit done. Also, whatdo with gold frogs?

>>15700514

you get bloodnium from enemies killed in TENGOKU, the floors above 52. its not something you should worry about right now.

>>15700514

You'll find a splattershroom now and then, nothing too substantial until later like >>15700524 said.

>>15700514

Gold frogs are mostly just healing. Cheap full heal isn't bad. Most golden beasts (anything better than rats) are for the XP boost. A golden fish will give you >4k, a golden bird >20k, so you can quickly level up a new fighter with just a few golden beasts.

>>15700281

I said 20 easy raids. A raid qualifies as "easy" if the defenders go down in 2 throws or less, sometimes you even come across raids where they don't bother defending at all and you just fight 2 naked level 1s. If the enemies are significantly tougher, you either use a different weapon or die. Just make sure not to get hit by a death burner because that shit does 20% of your armor's durability in one hit.

I'm using a tier 3+4 shuriken btw. It's not that much better than a tier 2+4, the big jump is at tier 4, which requires purple metal.

>>15700394

Shit happens. You just have to expect that 6*s will raid you now and then. Even with fully capped SPL though they usually don't bother me, it's only when I'm carrying 200k+ KC that I get raided regularly, and I only do that when I'm campling the moving shop. If I'm not mistaken, you don't actually lose the KC until you return to the waiting room, so if you spend it all first you've got nothing to lose.

>>15700597

>easy raids

Those don't exist in diamond tier. Unless you're a fag with a tornado shuriken or higher.

>>15700709

I said I had a tier 3+4 shuriken. Although Tier 2 and Tier 3 have almost identical stats, it's tier 4 that suddenly quadruples

They DO exist in diamond. More than half the people in diamond don't give a FUCK about their defenses because there's no way to stop the 80+s from running through anyway. Most people do NOT have Forcemen gear, I've done over a thousand raids so far, most of them in diamond, I could count on one hand the number of times I've seen that shit.

>>15700728

Then holy shit I am unlucky as fuck then. Every raid I do has at least 5 people with similar gear to me. And after a couple runs my shuriken is just about broken and I still have 5 minutes or so until I can buy another one. I can count on 1 hand the amount of defenses that "didn't care".

I cant git gud at this game and I dont think you're meant to.

It's been a couple months so maybe I got some death metals from the good captain.

I'll never get past floor 25 though.

>>15700756

All you need to do is upgrade the Iron as much as you can, get some decent armor and sprint you way past everything, The iron will get you past any road block and enemies are dropping Spears constantly the spear alt attack is great and you should get it to level 20 in no time.

The quests that gives you red metal rest every weak so that's what you use to make your armor.

You should also have a good supply of lifeshrooms just in case

But really just sprint past everything until you get to f25 then you have your new set of fighters.

I was able to get to and beat floor f40 in exactly a month, it really isn't that bad.

>>15700756

If you're hopelessly stuck on floor 25 I'm guessing jin-die in shimemeno is the problem., then you could actually farm a death burner at that point I think. You need to do your quest to kill max back at floor 10 for a D.O.D. red metal, and then you can farm F24 sumikyo which has a chance for steel you need 2 and F23 Honkawa for pure aluminum you need 2. Then, you can either farm reverse tubers for a reversal metal or take 50k kc to the wandering shop and buy one. If you go into floor 25 with 3 of those you could probably make it all the way to 30 without stopping. It'd probably be pretty time consuming, and I think you might also just be able to wait for the rotation to change to the shop one and buy all your mats. However, you would probably end up using all the normal tier iron and aluminum you get at some point or other so it wouldn't be a complete waste of time.

>>15700833

>>15700756

To put into perspective what kind of an upgrade that would be: The death burner does 543 damage at +0 as opposed to the previous tier's which is still a completely viable weapon on the 20s 107 at +4.

>>15700851

the tier jump is a big deal for some weapons.

>>15700851

The power gap between tiers is large enough to sail an ocean liner through, do it.

>>15700958

That just fortifies my point of "you had better gear than me". I can get the Cyclone S +1 to hit for maybe 500 on a similarly geared targets, your tornado is hitting for ten times that amount. Now how the hell do I find "easy target" for my gear level?

>>15700997

First, the Tornado +4 has 610 attack, compared to your Cyclone +1 at 383. They are not that far apart that it explains you hitting for 500. Second, why haven't you upgraded it yet? You've got 5* fighters just like I do, you've been to AT LEAST floor 35. How much harder do you really think it would be to go kill Goto 9 on floor 36? (Hint: The elevator on floor 37 is right next to the escalator behind the boss room on 36, you can farm Goto from the elevator without ever encountering a single other enemy). If you don't have the gear to kill Goto (how did you manage against COEN anyway?), you can camp the moving shop on sunday/wednesday/friday. It sells everything you need to upgrade your Shuriken to tier 3+4 and even upgrade a KAMAS to tier 4+1 or a Longsword to tier 4+4 (except skillshrooms).

Does u10 have a weakness? I died once and decided to farm better gear. However, I'm not entirely sure which weapon is the best pick against him.

>>15701036

the tail is absolutely immune to all damage. to damage u10 you need to hit the tail tip or the main body when it comes down to do a tail swipe.

I spent so fucking long Grinding Red Candle Wolf Metal the other day, I can kill f 36 Goto 9 before he even has a chance to attack, I had like 30 red metals and it still wasn't enough. But at least i'v almost upgraded the Warrior Armor S set into the Berserk armor and my Muramasa is level 3.

>>15701042

>>15701036

Ranged weapons are preferred because you can shoot the body regardless of where it is. I think the "standard" strategy is the pitching machine (found) and transperagus. Personally I think any strategy revolving around transperagus or slowmungus is total bullshit and you should just grind some better gear, but that's what they say.

>>15701064

At least GOTO is right by the elevator. Farming Jin Die for War Ensemble metals (any color) is a pain in the ass because you have to explore the entire giant ass floor to find her, sometimes multiple floors.

>>15701042

I mean like how jin-die is weak to slash, goto is weak to bash, and coen is weak to pierce. I'm thinking I might try to use golden oak, sting shroom, and raging bull to kill him fast and be done with it.

>>15701083

i bash them with weapons so strong that i dont even need to think about weaknesses

>>15701036

I went into u10 blind and got my shit wrecked and got mad so i then ate like 5 Guardshooms and death burned the shit out of him, then you have to fight a Coen right after and I ended up needing to use 2 death metals.

Really though the thing that has made me use Death metals more then anything else is when random bullshit happens and I get though off the roof.

I once used the Motor Psycho's charged attack to kill GOTO 9 and then leaped right though his body and off the cliff because the small ass opening in the wall.

>>15701014

>why haven't you upgraded it yet

Because I can't afford it and don't have the materials, which is why I'm trying to get cash and SPL so I can afford it and get equipment for my new 5 star fighters, which would end up being farming for the steel I need to upgrade my shuriken. Its a snowball situation that needs to be rectified besides "lol get gear".

Also why the fuck does my naked 5* luck star do more damage with the 1+ cyclone than a 4* attacker who has more dex? Crits aside, that is.

>>15701118

I honestly have no idea how the damage fucking works in this game. I was using a 5* Shooter in that video btw.

>>15701106

I went in blind and still managed to kill U-10 with a battle machete and dodging for 10 minutes.

Also the tail plunge into the ground is your biggest window of opportunity to lay in the damage. Strike hard and fast.

>>15701120

I only asked because I decided to do a few naked runs on my lucky star instead of my attacker just to gauge the waters for easy targets. Fuck me thats a massive gap between fighter power.

>>15701130

Yeah, you should upgrade your fighter tiers whenever you can. I like to have a dedicated raider that is always geared and never goes into barbs. The raider can farm kc if I fuck up while in the tower.

>>15701470

Oh shit, I think I've raided you a few times too. Small world.

>>15701470

I've seen you around too, and raided you a few times.

>>15701620

>Small world.

>800 peak players

>>15701470

Well another random tip if you want to have people to raid: Get the FUCK out of Alaska.

Alaska is a noob trap. As you can see, they don't even win all their fights anytime they go up against a competent team they get their shit kicked. Most of the noobiest, easiest targets are in Alaska. If you want to find someone to raid with >>15701625 800 peak players, you need to be in a small team yourself so that you maximize your potential targets, because remember: you can't raid your own team.

>>15702053

I guess I could replace the Barbarian with the +10% clover I picked up recent-ish. The only other decal I have to improve damage anyway is crowd pleaser. Firefighter and Poison Eater are mandatory on raids.

>>15702372

Is firefighter that important? I feel like just rolling is safe enough if you don't run yourself out of stamina on accident. It's a lot safer than puking anyways.

>>15702432

>>15702489

It's for conserving Armor. With Firefighter burn effects run out almost instantly, which means they don't sit on you doing extra armor damage. Firefighter means that when someone touches you with a flamethrower you won't lose a quarter of your armor durability. Death Burners will still do it on a direct hit though.

Similarly with poison/poison eater, it's not the poison itself that matters, it's the vomiting. No more random vomitting in combat or having to clear off poison to access your inventory. That's one I like to keep on at all times, because fuck vomiting.

>>15702504

poison vomiting isn't random. it happens when you press X (or A for these microshill faggots).

you are still fully capable of fighting while enduring poison as long as you don't press A, thats what triggers the unskippable vomiting animation.

>>15702631

F, for PC. I think it might be a PC controls bug that causes you to randomly puke when you attack

>>15702640

It stops you from reloading manually, and it also causes your camera to shake a lot if you're aiming. It's doable to fight with it, but it's still really annoying.

Do I need to keep Bronze skillshrooms for anything or can I just burn them on random decals? I know silver and gold are used as upgrade materials, but I don't know of anything that uses Bronze

>>15702877

bronze are also used as upgrade materials on some things.

but bronze are much easier to find, so go ahead and spend them. all you need to do to find bronze skillshrooms is go to metakojiya during the skillshroom rotation which is on thursdays, today

>>15702914

I'm doing that right now, which is why I want to know if I need them. I'm looking for silver especially

Any idea what uses them? I haven't been able to see anything on the wiki

>>15702923

Never mind, search containing Bronze Skillshroom gives some results

>>15702923

upgrading those night raider pants eh?

>>15702938

Silver for Longsword tier 4.

>>15702944

got them mixed up. yeah go crazy on the longsword, one of the best, easiest to make, and most efficient weapons in the game. i have mine +8 and it'd be +9 if i could find a single fucking Tiger Grease. but tengoku hasn't been nice to me with oil type materials. i had to buy the tiger grease for +8 with bloodnium on the hernia machine.

>>15702956

I'm not entirely convinced on "most efficient", since the fire variants take seemingly double durability damage. I already have a normal tier4+5, but I want to make an RE when I have the spare points, so I was going to stock up on silvers. Sadly I've yet to find a single silver shroom in Metakojiya, 2 golds though.

>>15702970

silver is the rarest one for some reason.

>most efficient

its efficient when you uncap it, because it gets massive durability, like all uncapped gear. and the cost is very low.

40k for a weapon with 7000 durability, compared to 15~k for what, 1400 durability? and the uncapped damage is even higher.

Does anyone else hate the idea of using "improvised" weapons and armor, so basically the entire concept behind DOD and MILK? Even when I KNOW it's better I still don't like it

People who send Hunters with fully upgraded KAMAS should be banned.

>>15703030

>soulslike

Shit has more in common with Dead Rising than dank souls.

>>15703135

>kamas hunters

Its why I do my best to either wait until they are occupied with screamers, or sneak up on them and suplex them. If I can't do either I try and burn their ammo down until they reload, in which case its time to beat the shit out of them.

>>15703135

>>15703626

Reminds me when some faggot sent me a hunter with a death burner when I haven't even gotten to floor 10 yet

>>15703626

Yeah, I have been thinking that this game shares a good number of similarities with dead rising.

>Urban zombie action game where you use a safe hub to scout a more dangerous area for resources.

>Durability system is a core part of exploration and combat.

>Inventory is intentionally limited and grows with player level.

>Death carries a good amount of weight. Dead Rising's save points can be out of the way, and you lose your limited time if you are constantly pulling out to a bathroom to save. Death can easily set you back 30 minutes to an hour if it hits unexpectedly. Similarly you've gotta grind for at least 30 minutes to an hour to pay retrieval costs in Let it Die.

>exploration is rewarded by finding areas of the map that offer various resources useful magazine or hidden gun cache in dead rising and a material floor/gold chest trap in let it die. These areas regenerate, and you can continually benefit from knowing where they are.

>Map changes based on real time passing pretty sure it is even a cyclical rotation based on week days in dead rising's unlimited time mode.

>Heavy inclusion of non traditional weapons on top of guns and military stuff.

>Mushrooms and fires play out pretty similarly to food and blenders.

>Might not be intentional, but the AI is really dumb and easily abused making the focus more on resource management for the current trip than living through each encounter.

>The usual pattern is broken up by various boss encounters that become much easier if you played the resource management game right.

It has similarities to dark souls or bloodborne chalice dungeons, but I think it feels more like dead rising with polished combat, roguelite elements, and some freemium grind mixed in.

Can a tier 6 skill master that has capped (but not uncapped) stats use all weapons without having to take a stat discount decal? Do all the fighter types end up being identical once you hit the uncap limit for them?

>>15702372

Alaska doesn't win all their fights anymore, but they still win more than anyone else just through the sheer number of them they get in to, so I'm satisfied staying. I don't have too much trouble finding raid targets anyway.

>>15704009

wew lad, at least you get a funshot upgrade at least

>>15704009

Upgrading from Shuriken tier 2 to tier 3 is even worse, drops from 482 attack to 466. Tier 3+4 is only 610, so you spend 21 steel and 16 candle wolf Reds to go up less than 130 points of damage.

Of course, Shurken tier 4+0 is 1532 attack, but it costs 3 purple metal, among other things, so you are NOT getting that shit early.

>>15704403

>so you are NOT getting that shit early

Just buy it with DMs from the vending machine :^)

>>15704403

>>15704009

the pitchball machine is another item that does this. but in the end who cares? you know that the +4 of the next tier will be better than the +4 of the previous tier. so keep upgrading.

>>15704452

You can also still buy the +4 of the previous tier, so its not like you're purposely gimping yourself until you reach the next +4.

>>15704470

yep, whats important is focusing on weapon you'll use.

dont develop shit just because you have things "in progress". focus your materials.

>>15660390

>let it die

>letit die

>leddit die

wew

>>15704510

its a japanese game, so suda is probably telling reddit to fucking die. like anyone with common sense.

>>15704486

I only do so for lower tier stuff for the sake of fun shots. Its much easier to grab the wire mountains as a 5* fighter than waste time gathering a million steel for a bunch of armor I never use.

>>15704658

i mean the funshots are nice, but when you're starting, focus on gear that you'll use.

i still dont really understand how they work very well though.

>>15704686

I think every piece you build adds a % increase to the effectiveness of all other pieces like that one. So if you build a hammer, you might get +.5% damage on all blunt weapons you use. It increases for every new item added to the shop. Going from t2+1 to t2+2 on a machete doesn't count as a new item. However, going from t2+4 to t3+0 does count, and your slash damage will be raised by a small percent for any weapon you use from that point on. Helmets, body, and legs are all tracked separately for armor. I'm not 100% on this all being accurate though.

TFW can finally beat Gamesfourever

>>15705320

i love how we've mentioned his name specifically several times now because everyone is raiding his ass for easy resources.

>>15705348

He's the midboss of the TDM ladder, everyone knows who he is, mainly because he's so damn obvious about it. Also I know for a fact he uses the express pass/vip service, so raid away.

>>15705320

I just got my kamas recycling point variant to 4 star. Feels pretty good to finally do 150 damage to horseman defenders. I can take them now, but it's not exactly pretty. I'll need to try raiding him for some resources the next time he pops up. How many horseman geared defenders does he have? Do they all run a kamas?

>>15705370

How'd you figure that out?

>>15705396

Not all, but I'm pretty sure they all run the same equipment. 150 damage isn't enough though. I'm running tier4+1 KAMAS with One Shot One Kill, Barbarian, and Crowd Pleaser decals on a tier 5 Shooter.

>>15705409

Yeah, I need to kill u10 and get to 35 already. I've got the shrooms for the skills after today, but I don't really want to waste them on a t4 when I am so close to t5.

>>15705423

U10 AND COEN. If you haven't already faced COEN on 34, he's kind of a pain in the ass if you don't have the damage to put him down fast. You can't normally get to 35 without killing both in the same run, though I do believe there is a small chance that both escalators you need are on the same side of COEN.

>>15705434

I've never had trouble with coen before. Hopefully I won't start now.

>>15705486

COEN before 34 is a joke. COEN on 34 will one-shot you. He also throws corpses at you at range which can be a bitch to dodge. How easy he is depends mainly on how much damage you can do, but from the sounds of it it probably isn't much.

>>15705559

>>15705486

If you play cautiously and crouch walk around him after taking a shot at him hes not that bad. I ended up having to finish him off with my fists due to my weapons breaking mid fight, so make sure you have plenty of durability to spare when you reach him.

>>15705559

I'll probably be fine. I've been dealing with corpse throwing coen in tdm for a while now, and you've gotta deal with defenders there at the same time.

>>15705600

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

best weapon(s) for farming u-10?

>>15705609

COEN on floor 34 is roughly equivalent to COEN X4, maybe a bit more HP. NOT COEN X3, don't expect him to be.

>>15705916

Still need storage, so I doubt ill have any DMs

>>15705657

I just realized if I buy 6 war ensemble red metals today, then I can upgrade my assault rifle to deal 2,226 damage as opposed to its current 370. I might just have to do that before I progress any further.

I would recommend it yes. The Longsword and Magnum have similar moving shop upgrades. If you can ge 2 Special Steel from the vending machine, you can actually uncap a longsword without ever going past floor 30.

What's the difference between the Armor and weapons you get from Recycle points and the sets that are named the same you get from the blue prints.

>>15707377

The weapons are signifcantly better. They have higher damage and MUCH higher durability. They are also slightly cheaper to upgrade. However, they cost at least twice as much KC to buy.

The armor parts are also better, but not nearly as significantly.

>>15707390

>>15707377

It's not bad to have both, especially if you use those weapons regularly. Considering the cooldown between puchases having both the KAMAS and KAMAS RE means you could buy 2 assault rifles in an hour+ instead of just one. That's especially handy before you uncap, but even after uncap you could have one for "trash" and the other with better durability for tougher enemies.

Is it worth it to horde all of these pumpkinshroooms? They seem to heal quite a bit.

>>15707475

In my opinion, not really, you're better off carrying other shrooms, specially since lifeshrooms are easy to get and pretty much heal you half your hp, plus there are some decals made for healing.

>>15707488

Gold Pumpkinshroom is 9000hp and 3 rage. Not bad to hold onto a few of those, especially if you actually use rage moves. For most fighters below tier 6 that's a full heal which you would be spending a golden beast on otherwise.

>>15707539

Golden Frogs and Rats are only good for healing. The others are usually best used for XP. The only ones I'd really consider killing for shrooms are scorpians and pillbugs.

The problem with (golden) vampire fungus is if you need that much healing you are probably dead in one or two hits anyway. (golden) Oakshrooms are only good with single-shot weapons/rage attacks, since I don't use those I don't need the shrooms, I can always just attack 2 more times. Everything else does the exact same thing it does in non-golden form, but with a longer duration. For the most part you can just use another shroom in that case.

>>15707539

I could see using a rat or frog as a healing item. I also kept eating my early ones because I thought you had to to get the exp from them.

>>15707539

I just bring them back and have my underlevel faggots stomp them for the XP + shroom.

Its a win win.

>>15707570

I've seen people use the 300% attack on the sniper to take down jackals either in one shot or really fucking quick. That first hit can do wonders if you play your decals and equipment out right.

>>15707972

Sniper rifle is one of those "single shot" weapons I was referring to, even more so if they used the sniper rage move. Meanwhile if you are just shooting a KAMAS, there's absolutely no point.

>>15707966

OK I'm an idiot, I didn't realize you got full XP from stomping them

>>15707988

But it has a magazine of 4 :^)

I get you, I just didn't really consider the sniper to be "single shot" due to the mag size. I'm still discovering weapons that do a ludicrious amount of damage on a per hit basis.

>>15708002

You have to cycle the bolt between shots, so you can still only fire like 1 per second. Plus with the total ammo of 16 I think, you have to make every bullet count.

>>15705396

>How many horseman geared defenders does he have? Do they all run a kamas?

I'm pretty sure they aren't running Forcemen armor. It looks like Iron eagle RE helmets and probably the rest of that same outfit at a guess. All but 1 use KAMAS. That one is using (I think) the Spike Crusher from White Steel. Only piece of Forcemen gear he has as far as I know.

Is the first assault rifle worth upgrading? Or is that the kamas you guys are talking about

>>15708461

KAMAS=assault rifle yes. Yes it's worth upgrading, even if you eventually buy the REcycled version, the original is still worth having as well

>>15708513

Alright, thanks. One more question: what is the point of weapons that ran out of ammo? Just for maybe selling them for peanuts?

>>15708522

You can still use them with Rage moves or infinite ammo shrooms.

>>15707972

You should really carry a sniper or a revolver anyways. Fighting a kamas hater with a kamas is getting your armor shredded while you waste bullets on a constantly guarding enemy. Fighting a kamas hater with a magnum is stunlocking. Fighting a kamas hater with a sniper rifle is one shotting him before he sees you. Additionally, weapon switching has no animation so there's no reason not to golden oak + sniper/magnum rage move at the start of a boss and then swap to the kamas.

>>15708002

I think the upgraded variant has 12/48 starting ammo. The low ammo amount on the base version is what is keeping me from upgrading the thing.

>>15708522

The pitching machine also has a multihit (armor shredding) alternative attack that puts out more damage than you might think. It doesn't benefit from the rage move when depleted though.

>>15708570

Working on magnum. KAMAS vs KAMAS isn't that bad. There's a delay before they fire, so you just wait till they start "aiming" and headshot them, they'll either cancel their shot and go back to blocking or fail to hit anything due to flinching.

>>15708606

It feels a lot cleaner shooting at melee haters with the kamas. You can control when they guard, but it's kind of up to the computer when ranged haters attack/defend. I'm also kind of shit at telling the visual queues for blocking with some of the weapons. Spears are probably the biggest offender. It's a lot easier on the magnum anyways. However, if you miss your first shot due to its slight inaccuracy after going for penetration shots to hit both bank and splithium tanks at once I am convinced that it's a contextual thing you're going to eat a good number of shots.

>>15708670

I've noticed the AI can snap up a guard on a whim, even when shot at. Its infuriating when they run at you, you open fire, and they just immediately guard and continue walking towards you while taking fuck all damage.

>>15708709

Yeah, if you turn your back, they drop their guard, and you can get in 2 or sometimes 3 shots. You've gotta shoot them while it looks like they're still guarding though because it takes a second for the animation to go back, but they lose protection instantly.

>>15708709

The first bullet still gets through I think. I usually only single shot with the KAMAS anyway to conserve ammo, if the enemy looks like it will take more than 3 or 4 I use a different weapon.

Floor 40 boss is kind of bullshit, fighting a hater with my tier 4 KAMAS while naked and unarmed, almost pure luck to survive that.

>>15709440

Well they are naked, so you need to rush them immediately.

>>15709440

use your rage move and push them off

>>15709440

Can you bring a tier 1 buzzsaw and equip that before going in to make that part easier?

>>15709482

You have to fight COEN with whichever weapon that hater drops

>>15709457

That's exactly what I did. It's still crazy, feels exactly like what one would expect it to feel like staring down an assault rifle in your underwear. It kills you in one shot, 2 with a lifeshroom.

>>15709494

Do you get your other shit back after coen? I think I'll probably go in with a magnum because the ai doesn't know how to use those.

>>15709506

Yes, they are even nice enough to auto-equip it for you during the cutscene where the main boss appears.

>>15710608

>Kill Coins Spent 28938291

>Kill coins spent at Gyakufunsha (moving shop) 9414000

>Kill coins spent in Chokufunsha (weapon shop) 6233221

I honestly expected it to be higher for Gyakufunsha

>>15712291

Japs have a horrendous arrogance problem in games like this. He'd rather show off that he can do four foreskins at a low rank than anything else.

>>15712408

if he had full red napalm i'd recognize his talent, but whitesteel? whitesteel is a fucking joke. he can't defeat BT or RN, let alone PW for shit. he only defeats white steel because WS is a joke with the right item and shrooms. he's so bloody easy by comparison to the other forcemen its ridiculous.

Is there a more efficient way to grind kill coins than raids?

>>15713763

Not really, my lucky star with the +20% KC decal can pull in maybe 90k if I rush from 1F to Max. but that takes like 30 minutes.

>>15713763

Farm raids with a high tier weapon. Higher tier weapons get a lot more damage to cost ratio so you get more mileage. You can start to raid people that actually have savings and make about 20-30k easily in 2 minutes. Also, your raids go faster, and your armor takes less damage. You should also throw the game on an ssd due to the high number of loading screens while raiding.

>>15713858

>using armor

Its better to just go naked and sure-you-can your way to victory

>>15713880

It's not a bad idea as long as you make sure to focus down guys with irons and assault rifles. I think mine usually lasts like 20+ raids before it breaks, and it only takes the profits of a single raid to buy 20k for tier 4 shirt and pants. It gives me a safety net in case I mess up mildly, and that is probably going to save my life more than once during its durability period. You can use a cheap helmet for stat mods because it doesn't do much armor wise, but you should wear decent stuff elsewhere or at the very least just a shirt. In my raiding I've noticed how huge of a difference an armored defender's survivability is compared to a naked ones. If you die to stupid shit halfway through a raid then you've just thrown away half a raids worth of ammo and weapon durability on top of your invested time. I suppose you could also run the living on the edge decal to save your life once a raid to stop stupid deaths, but it's not as effective and takes the place of a skill you could be using for damage to save on weapon costs. To me at least the armor seems to improve earnings overall. Like I said to 1314a9 though, having the damage to deal with defenders quickly will improve your armor's longevity and make it cost less over time. It's more worth it the more damage you deal, and it probably isn't worth it if half your raids are ones where you have to give up instantly due to the sheer difference in equipment quality.

It’s weird knowing that this game takes place in NMH, Killer 7, and The Silver Cases universe. Isnt this one far in the future?

>we lose another fight because the enemy team literally has no target that can be raided.

this is just such bullshit. i could come up with a better way to balance this shitty system in my sleep.

>>15715441

what just because suda made it, it has to take place in the same universe? i mean, it just might be

>>15715528

He said all of his games take place in the same universe. Also the Death Drive mk 2 exists in NMH

>>15715557

beam katana in the game when

>activate 1 day express pass to get the +20% durability decal

>may as well take a FREE™ elevator ride while I can

>walk into the elevator

>this is pretty cool

>lets go to the 30s

>game shits itself trying to load in the conversation with the stewardess

>still not responding after 5 minutes

>alt f4

>character is dead and have to pay about 150,000 kc for a revive

I guess first class transportation doesn't come cheap.

>>15717032

if the game crashes or your internet gets disconnected during the loading escalator, the game has a nasty habit of counting it as a death.

>>15717140

Yeah, it's the first time I've had it shut down that hard. It's gone unresponsive before, but it is usually pretty good about fixing itself. I found it pretty ironic that it happened on my first "free" elevator ride though. I doubt I'll ever use that thing again.

>>15717189

those crashes usually have to do with memory consumption. did you have any other ram hogging program running while having the game open?

>>15717207

Yeah, I think you're right about it being a memory issue. I've pretty much only got my browser and let it die opened, but I am running it on a machine that only has 8GB of RAM.

>>15717235

the game alone eats 8 GB, the ram hogging son of a bitch.

>>15717242

I'm a bit tight on money now, but I might try to pick some up on Black Friday if I find a good deal. Also, I think the game is trying to push me to play with a katana. I got katana addict, hagakure (60% crit rate/ 30%crit damage set bonus for sengoku + katana), and the related blueprints all really close together.

>>15717269

i got like 6 "addict" decals, mostly garbage ones. everytime i get the 4* stew animation its an addict decal. except that one time i got Diamond.

barbell NEVER EVER

>>15717296

>got shuriken addict

Time to meme even harder. I gotta play around with it along side the dual wield and poison booster one, see what happens.

Might be time for a new thread.

black thunder is such bullshit RNG sometimes. he decides to spam the blue wave for no reason and constantly knocks you down while your shrooms (the ones he allows, mind you) run out of effect.

I just fought Gunkanyama on f40. Going in with a magnum made the fight so much easier than with a kamas. Once the guy with a magnum drops he runs to the very edge of the platform and takes really poorly tracked shots at you. So you can walk (not even sprint) to the side and then punch him off really easily. The magnum isn't too bad of a weapon to fight the armored hater or coen with either. I'm wondering if anyone has tried taking a bunch of snailshrooms and just taking all of the explosive rain that comes on you if you leave the stage. It didn't do that much damage without the immunity so with it you might be able to comfortably just snipe coen from out there.