2f34b8 No.15624725
>He doesn't pick tech over magic
What's your excuse? Don't tell me you think jerking off with other mages in the woods over useless fireballs compares
b11451 No.15624745
>he thinks his little toys can stand up to the infinite power of magic
b1d361 No.15624762
Teleportation saves so much fucking time in Arcanum. Needing to depend on items/rest for healing if you go tech is a horrible pain in the ass. Not to mention that you need to keep around a half-ogre just to be able to carry enough ammo to use guns for any reasonable span of time.
7e4c9c No.15624775
Cyberdragons will always beat normaldragons.
2f662c No.15624781
>not mixing magic and technology together in order to create the perfect weapon
34cc17 No.15624786
>Technigger shitting on pure virgin magic.
Not my fault you gave in to 3DPD before receiving your powers.
f4efed No.15624789
>>15624786
>not multiclassing
Fag
e24f5d No.15624811
>he doesn't pick apples over oranges
53fee6 No.15624836
>>15624745
>He thinks his soft soy ridden mage body can stand up to 7.62.
f8ae95 No.15624854
>>15624836
But the magical barrier can.
f97b2d No.15624872
>picking tech over magic
>not making tech based on magic
>accidentally create AI that can understand the subtleties of magic and most efficient ways of using them better than you
>oh no
7e4c9c No.15624877
>>15624854
Can you cast it faster than i can twitch my finger?
2b5760 No.15624882
>>15624872
>it immediately starts killing niggers and has to be banned by the (((archmages)))
53fee6 No.15624883
>>15624854
Not if you don't see them coming.
70dfd5 No.15624884
53fee6 No.15624887
>>15624882
That's always the case, I'm sick of hearing about the fucking genocide of the mages.
973093 No.15624891
>implying orc tech isn't derived from WAAAAAAGH magic.
7e4c9c No.15624893
So would railguns with magic penetrating adamantite shells be more on the tech or magic end ofthe spectrum?
7420ea No.15624894
I like tech and I like magic, they're both sides of the same coin.
Got any recommendations for games that have aspects of both, /v/? I didn't really like the shadowrun series and the only one that comes to mind right now is pillars of eternity, but I ain't cuck enough to play that.
2f34b8 No.15624937
Magic is Technologies bitch.
Mage
>Hurr durr I shoot magic missile somehow without actually know why or how it works
Tech "wizard"
>By understanding the laws of what magic is based on I can use the heat generated in order to power I giant fucking walking spider
2f34b8 No.15624939
>>15624894
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
8de7ea No.15624952
>>15624725
Why did you have to remind me that GATE exists? I'm still mad that they wasted such a fun and interesting concept on slice of life harem shit.
53fee6 No.15624961
>>15624952
Hey the butt hurt caused by questioning of supposed war crimes committed by the Japanese government is pretty good.
8e935e No.15624969
>>15624952
It was always JDF propaganda, it exists to get neets to join the army now that the japanese goverment is beefing it up.
Of course they want neets to believe they are going to become gary stews and get a harem of qts if they join the army.
63774e No.15624978
>>15624836
Not that Goblin Slayer can stand up to any mage himself, he's the weakest of his silver rank himself.
34cc17 No.15624984
>>15624952
>>15624969
I watched the first Ep and thought to myself that it may go down that road. What a fucking dissapointment.
53fee6 No.15624987
>>15624978
True, but he isn't really interested with fighting mages, and he does pretty good against Gobo casters.
8e935e No.15624993
>>15624978
Because he has optimized himself and all of his equipment to fighting goblins and goblinoids.
If a wizard had killed orcbolg's parents and raped his sister then he would be autistic about wizards and would engage on magic genocide.
06680f No.15625010
>>15624993
Now that sounds like a fun manga.
e57699 No.15625015
>>15624969
>It was always JDF propaganda
This, in big fucking letter. If the JDF (or any other army, for that matter), they would be too busy raping the locals as if they could bother protecting them. Especially those idiots who build their shanty down right next to a military base.
8e935e No.15625023
>>15625015
Besides, they dont even try to hide that they are destroying the (not) roman empire because grorius nippon strongest!
cdeddc No.15625035
>>15624725
I always choose tech over magic. Using normal humans and their basic tech to triumph over (usually) smug and over powered magic wielding fags is great. Relying on your own skill + creations beats magic fags relying on the elements/gods to do their work for them. At least that is how I view it.
53fee6 No.15625036
>>15625023
Maybe Roman's should be better fighters, truly the spaghetti should fear the sushi.
7e4c9c No.15625042
>>15625035
This. Pure magic is like winning battles with "the power of friendship," and that's gay.
8e935e No.15625043
>>15625036
Anon, scutums and laurica segmentatas wont stop an 7.62x51 round.
872b04 No.15625046
I think you're forgetting something.
Magic can do literally anything, including doing what tech does but better. So feel free to use a normal gun vs a gun that creates a shield over the user, never misses, never needs to reload, and has explosive shots.
673a49 No.15625047
>>15625042
>>15625035
I completely agree. While I'll play mages as well, if I can play tech instead, I will.
f816cd No.15625060
Magic is cool if it's logically based, like sympathy in The Name of the Wind where you link objects and based on how similar they are you have an efficiency which decreases the amount of energy or other aspects transferred between them. It also allows a lot of fun things like linking a magnet with a huge slab of metal and an iron coin with a dragon so that the slab falls on it whenever it approaches. It would never work for vidya though.
7e4c9c No.15625066
>>15625046
If you want to take things to the extreme
I think you're forgetting something.
Tech can do literally anything, including doing what magic does but better. So feel free to use a magic spell vs a shield generator that never runs out (fusion power), and teleporting plasma charges that never miss, never need to reload, and have explosive shots.
2f34b8 No.15625071
>>15625035
>Going guns blazing into a crowd of stupid faggy elves killing them all before they can even cast a single spell
ff7d12 No.15625078
>>15625071
>Elfs already saw what you planned to do, used magic to paralyze you and then continue to have flow buttsex, turning you into a tranny with tiny dick plus aids
2f34b8 No.15625079
>>15625046
>Magic can do literally anything
No you are thinking of technology. Most mages haven't landed on the moon for a reason.
2f34b8 No.15625082
>>15625078
>Elfs already saw what you planned to do
No they didn't. They live 10000 years and yet all they do is live in trees. They are the nig nogs of fantasy.
7c8455 No.15625083
>he doesnt harness "magic" with technology
Magic is just an ancient word which actually translates into "mystery". Magic is essentially the understandings of our universe.
ff7d12 No.15625085
>>15625079
Technology can't make you not-ugly though.
03698c No.15625086
>>15625046
this is one of the few times I feel the need to explicitly tell an anon I absolutely love an image he has posted.
63774e No.15625087
>>15625079
Most technocrats haven't, either.
ff7d12 No.15625091
>>15625082
They actually have cities though, unlike niggers, who live in turds or ruins of cities white men created.
70dfd5 No.15625096
2f34b8 No.15625101
>>15625085
>Technology can't make you not ugly
65310e No.15625102
>Not picking Magic
>Not smashing a brass horn to dust in your bare hands
>Not killing someone by calling them a faggot really loud
936edb No.15625104
>>15624877
>not pre-casting them beforehand
That's a nice gun you got there ,it would be shame if it jammed and exploded in your face right as you pulled the trigger from some unknown reason
54312e No.15625109
>>15624725
There's two things I like in my fantasy settings: science based magic (be it mathematical magic or alchemy (bombs away!)) and necromancy. With science based magic, you get fun shit like granades powered by fire, railguns, and golems with gatlings. With necromancy, if you don't have your own army, you (or the game) are doing it wrong! Necromancy is just awesome, even if it can be a gory practice not suitable for little children.
Case in point, Grim Dawn have the granadier class, which combines tech with magic. Awesome. Spread fire all around, be a walking inferno, and fire exploding ammounition at your enemies with no regard for personal safety! If there's no smoke, you fucked up. It also has a necromancer class, and does a decent job at it, even if I don't have as many skellies as I would like. On the brighter side, those skellies are fucking brutal (at least as far as I have gotten in the game. I need to remake my necro, I don't like the female voice). You can summon six skeleton Death Knights (big fuck-off knights with a large sword and shield) and they will murderfuck anything you ask them to in just about no time. I just focus solely on the summoning line of skills, ignoring everything else. So much fun.
2f34b8 No.15625111
>>15625091
>Cities
>homeless people living in trees = a city
53fee6 No.15625114
>>15625102
>Wear earplugs
>magic is ineffective
65310e No.15625118
>>15625111
That's gnomes dickhead
feebd3 No.15625119
fire is the only viable magic, change my mind.
65310e No.15625124
>>15625114
>Wear earplugs
>Still die like a retard because your organs have been liquified
8e935e No.15625128
>>15625119
Water makes you useless.
53fee6 No.15625131
>>15625104
>Shitty mage thinks he can precast before my round is down range shredding his organs into meat chunks.
7e4c9c No.15625132
>>15625102
Hydraulics and concussive weapons are aready a thing.
2f34b8 No.15625134
>>15625119
You are right considering the fire nation was able to kill off all the lesser races simply because their fire bending allowed them to make steel
53fee6 No.15625137
Healing magic is the best.
7bad2d No.15625139
>>15625131
>pshhh…. I teleported behind you with my gun before you could even move….
2f34b8 No.15625147
>>15625139
>Try to use gun
>It explodes in your hand because wizards can't into tech
65310e No.15625149
>>15625132
>Build massive array of audio equipment to deliver lethal force in sound form with enough mass and volume to absorb the recoil
>Smash a trumpet
Gee, that's a real toughie.
936edb No.15625156
>>15625131
>mage
>shredding organs into meat chunks
how can one post have so many errors in it is simply beyond me
Protip:webm is a lichgood luck faggit
53fee6 No.15625158
>>15625149
>tries to smash trumpet
>doesn't because of the multiple rounds of big boy rifle rounds ruining his guts.
65310e No.15625162
>>15625158
FAGGOT
Oh dear, you have died!
f884f6 No.15625164
>>15625147
He'd stumble over one of the bazillion shotguns the fuckin wizard conjured and break his neck.
53fee6 No.15625166
>>15625156
Okay faggot, I'll use a deer slugs.
53fee6 No.15625168
>>15625162
Not an argument nerd. Try casting spells when you ain't got no lungs.
7e4c9c No.15625172
>>15625149
It's called a hand grenade, you dumbass.
65310e No.15625182
>>15625168
>implying you need lungs when you're a wizard
864f11 No.15625185
>Those non-magitek faggots who don't use use magical energies in advanced technology to create mecha Gods.
How does it feel to pick the objectively worst option?
7e4c9c No.15625188
>>15625182
>implying cyborgs need to breathe
936edb No.15625189
>>15625166
i certainly hope you have more of them than i have skellingtons and no need for reloadoh wait that would be magictherefore you're fucked
53fee6 No.15625190
>>15625182
Nigga it's gonna be really hard to cast unless you can form farts into words when everytime you try to chant it comes out whistles from your collapsed lungs.
8e935e No.15625195
>>15625189
What would be an ideal gun to kill skelletons?
Shotguns?
Because we cant use the mace as an option.
7e4c9c No.15625196
>>15625189
I cast cruise missile, your skellingtons are worthless.
53fee6 No.15625198
>>15625189
Listen negromancer, I know those skellies are low in calcium density, I can bribe them for refreshing ice cold milk.
53fee6 No.15625202
>>15625195
Why not a bayonet mace for your shotty?
7e4c9c No.15625203
>>15625195
If you want future tech, pulse weapons/concussion rifles would be ideal
feebd3 No.15625205
why won't games let me use a shield as an archer? i want to be a fortress
2f34b8 No.15625214
>>15625189
>Being scared of fucking skeletons
A skeleton weights 10lbs. You can lift one up with a single hand.
8e935e No.15625215
>>15625202
Thats not how maces work anon, it would be more viable to have an axe-bayonet and tht wouldnt be as effective as a mace against skellymans.
>>15625203
What about sonic weaponry?
53fee6 No.15625218
>>15625215
Fair enough I agree with your point.
feebd3 No.15625228
>>15625215
a good way to dispatch skellys is with acid bombs, problem solved and negromancers btfo'd
88d856 No.15625230
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15625189
>Being scared of skeletons
7e4c9c No.15625236
>>15625215
Those rotary grenade launcher guns would be good.
8e935e No.15625239
>>15625228
Wouldnt white phosphrous be better to destroy their bones?
And if we are at that, just give them a massive shelling, the concussive force of the combined artillery will make them fall to pieces.
936edb No.15625254
>>15625198
AYO ,HOL UP
*rattles ribcage*
SO YOU BE SAYIN DEM NIGGA SKELINGTONS AIN'T LACTOSE INTOLERANT NO MO AND BE ABIDIN' SOMMA FINNA PRIMO WHYT MILK?
971152 No.15625258
>>15625195
For one, definitely don't use flamethrowers as you will end up with a band of burning skellingtons coming right at you.
864f11 No.15625260
God I wish there was a magitek necromancer faction in some setting. Imagine the necromancers actually being like mad scientists that besides creating awful abominations, also create crazy, over-the-top technology using Tesla Coils and unstable magical energies.
>Tfw, will never create undead specialized extermination squads with machine guns to mow down peasants with
>Will never create evangelion-esque abominations to fight for me
>Will never create an efficient man-mower that autoamtically takes parts of defeated enemies for later use.
>Will never run over some stupid knights with a fucking magical tank.
14cdc4 No.15625279
>>15625260
Warjack Cryx is essentially that. Too bad they're stuck on a figure-selling vehicle.
7e4c9c No.15625284
>>15625239
Actually, just flying a jet over them at supersonic speed would kill them. (This is a real world tactic with the B-1 bomber)
864f11 No.15625291
>>15625279
Didn't Warmachine have a videogame though?
864f11 No.15625294
>>15625279
>>15625260
Also I guess Warcraft's Scourge is also kind of like that, but not really, so I don't really count them.
14cdc4 No.15625298
>>15625260
>>15625279
Oh, and here are some images for reference.
>>15625291
Well, I'll be damned, Gotta go check it out.
01b863 No.15625311
> not investing your time in crystallography with some spicy necromancy
ISHYGDDT
936edb No.15625324
>>15625198
>>15625254
SO YOU BE SAYIN
*adjusts femur*
SO YOU BE SAYIN
*scratches nose*
SO YOU BE SAYIN
IMA GONNA BE HAVIN SOME KINDA AN ARMY OF SUPASKELINGTONS?
you're fucked now boi
2f1f83 No.15625325
53fee6 No.15625336
9d380b No.15625354
>>15625137
The Healslut meme is a joke. The true sluts are the faggots(DPS) who need big strong men around them while they gobble down semen healing from others.
f48e17 No.15625364
>>15624725
>not mixing tech and magic
*laughs in binary*
You’ll cowards don’t even praise the Ominissiah
872b04 No.15625372
>>15625079
If you play tabletops you know that yes, they have and can do it daily. Usually with little to no cost. Hell they could teleport to any celestial body really, interplanetary teleport is a relatively normal spell.
Theres probably a fucking cult on there building towers and shit.
>>15625131
What is Divination?
b11451 No.15625374
>>15624877
>not walking around constantly enhanced by magic
It's like you want to be a mortal or something gay like that.
b11451 No.15625378
>>15624836
>he thinks his weapon based on physics can harm a being who can manipulate the laws of physics
01b863 No.15625383
>>15625378
> says the dude who just stepped on a landmine
910a4e No.15625385
>>15624725
Setting where magic and technology cannot coexist is a bad setting. I want to pick both, I want them to have their own strengths and weaknesses. Imagine D&D magic. Pretty much every school instead of Evocation (battle magic) cannot be replicated by current technology. So you can use a grenade launcher instead of fireball and save spell slots for divination and necromancy and such. Or consider Harry Potter. Instead of running around British Isles like headless chickens looking for horcruxes, why didn't they just Apparate into military base, steal a Challenger MBT and some manuals for Hermione to read, get Arthur Weasley to make it fly, and then shell the Voldemort's undying ass until he gives up the locations of horcruxes himself just to stop it? Good luck Avada Kedavring me, you pasty abortion, I'm behind a fucking Chobham! Electricity not working in the Hogwarts? Guns don't use electricity!
f36a99 No.15625386
>>15625128
>water makes you useless
fire evaporates water you dum dum
01b863 No.15625388
>>15625383
Dammit programmerprimate
Friendly sage
de3427 No.15625389
>>15624887
WE WUZ ELDARS AN SHIEET
a2a4dd No.15625395
>>15625010
Sorcerer hunters was a fun manga
5acdf4 No.15625396
Consider this:
Magic is for sissy faggots.
3a4844 No.15625397
>implying they're mutually exclusive
The Scientific Method was invented by a grand Magus. The Arab scientists were all magicians and practitioners of Sufist mysticism. The philosophs of Greece were studied in theology, biology, history and thaumology. The separation of Religion, Myth, Science, History and Philosophy was a mistake.
872b04 No.15625401
>>15625386
Well yes, but then you're a steam wizard and not a fire wizard which takes out most the fun.
>>15625396
So are guns. What faggot wants to pull a tiny lever and kill someone like that gay ass tinkerer in the dungeon?
Grab a sword and stab shit. Or punch it to death like a man.
5acdf4 No.15625405
>>15625401
Stabbing shit has been the most manly game since there was a man on earth.
de3427 No.15625409
>>15625134
And Earthbending can evolve into Steelbending
b11451 No.15625410
>>15625383
>walking
>not levitating everywhere
feebd3 No.15625413
>>15625410
>not teleporting and internally explode your enemies
smh
01b863 No.15625415
>>15625410
Didn't see that claymore coming, did ya you floating faggot?
872b04 No.15625416
>>15625405
I dunno, I think bludgeoning gets a place next to.
Cutting something up shows the intelligence to make a sharp thing and probably slap a handle on it. But beating it shows brute force which has it's own charm.
3a4844 No.15625426
>>15625405
It's more manly to manipulate nature and the laws of the universe to do your bidding, enslaving the very mechanisms which God laid about for personal gain.
0131c4 No.15625428
>>15625085
It can but it shouldnt.
b11451 No.15625434
>>15625415
>not drinking potions of detect metal so you can feel every scrap of metal within 1000 miles
Step it up my lad, these toys are for children.
5acdf4 No.15625435
>>15625416
You're right. If you're not just picking up the body of a fallen tree and bonking your enemies on the head with it until their dead, you're a fucking beta fag.
01b863 No.15625443
>>15625434
> going insane over the fact that you can feel every iron particle up until the core of the earth
> still get outplayed because of composite weaponry
7e4c9c No.15625447
>>15625434
>He spends his every waking moment chugging detection potions
Why would you want this lifestyle?
5acdf4 No.15625452
>>15625434
Mages are drug chugging degenerates confirmed.
8e935e No.15625459
>>15625435
>bludgeon
>cutting
The manliest way to kill something is to stab it to death, literally penetrating someone until they die.
387eac No.15625463
>>15625035
I always choose wood over tech. Using normal humans and their basic tools to triumph over (usually) smug and over powered tech wielding fags is great. Relying on your own skill + creations beats tech fags relying on the guns/machines to do their work for them. At least that is how I view it.
01b863 No.15625467
>>15625459
I dunno anon that sounds pretty gay to me
>>15625463
> ooga booga why boomstick hurt from far
5acdf4 No.15625469
>>15625459
Idk fam, I've taken the Caveman pill now. The only way to defeat rival tribe is to get big stick and bonk longnose on head.
2724d7 No.15625477
>>15625463
>Niggers lost tp whites with guns
>Indians lost to whites with guns
>Nanderthals mixed a little with superior species and died out
5acdf4 No.15625481
>>15625477
Yeah but guns are for PUSSIES
My ancestors will smile as I die like the
ALPHA CHAD WARRIOR
I am, with club in hand.
VIRGIN GUN WIELDING PUSSIES
like you couldn't understand such manliness.
15f972 No.15625485
>>15625463
Injuns adopted guns as soon as they become available to them. Hell, they loved guns so much, they made clubs in shape of guns when they couldn't get their hands on guns. And do you remember any African tribe that, when presented with AKs, refused to use them? It is natural for humans to love guns, only liberal cuckolds from California or Bongistan hate them.
2724d7 No.15625494
>>15625481
>if you die by your enemies, you win
Sound plan m8.
15f972 No.15625498
>>15625481
Your ancestors did not used the guns because they didn't had them, you retard. Humanity become so powerful and successful because humans always used the best weapons available to them.
feebd3 No.15625499
>>15625481
>muh ancestors mudduhfugga
learn how to make a fire first and then come back to this thread
527a3c No.15625505
>>15624725
Okay lets rationally and honestly compare magic vs Tech
Tech
>Can shoot 600-950 rounds per minute or an rpg missle
>With proper bomb can kill 60,000-80,000 in a single blast.
>Can fly 9,000 miles in 16 hrs
>With electricity and fuel one can keep his house warm and have lights on at any given time
>Information with a tap of his finger
>Armor to protect against other technological weapons.
>Can create robots to do basic manual labor.
Now lets compare and contrast Magic
>Can shoot anything from magic missles,fire balls, chain lighting or a psychic scream that makes everyone who hears it die.
>A proper spell can kill 70,000 with a flick of a finger then use the dead corpses as fuel to summon unholy eldritches monsters to continue you work
>Can fly but also teleport to any location with a proper cast.
>Can keep flames going indefinitely
>Can get any information he desires.
>Can cast his magic to protect himself from weather,elements, magic and more
>Can create servants to help with his everyday task.
At the end of day magic is doing everything technology does with one major difference he doesnt have to carry around 100kg of equipment.
5cbdf8 No.15625510
You made this thread because Sseth uploaded a video today, didn't you?
5acdf4 No.15625521
>>15625494
>Implying cavemen's muscles don't just reflect virgin bullets
>>15625498
And if they were alive today theyd use the blunt end of the gun to kill you because its how god intended things to be done
>>15625499
Degenerate roman faggot go fuck a kid up the butt and talk about how civilized you are
2724d7 No.15625527
>>15625505
You can train much more people to use technology and its weapons compared with magic. To cast the super powerful magic spells, you need to have the mana and the skill level that was obtained from an extreme amount of effort.
2f34b8 No.15625534
>>15625512
The club is clearly going to hit the white boi first
01b863 No.15625535
>>15625505
> implying you won't run out of mana as soon as you TP in battle
"Oh fuck where is my fireball" - Wizard, before getting sieved by my glorious battalion of soldiers
>>15625512
Forgot to mention the "gun as big as his penis" on the glorious gunman
6896ef No.15625537
>>15625481
Look at this faggot and laugh.
Mad as fuck that a little old lady that can barely lift a bag of oranges can lay you out flat with a 357 and all the pushups or martial arts training in the world can't save your ass.
5acdf4 No.15625552
>>15625537
Look at this unga whos too limp wristed to even pick up a stick, let along swing around at giant club to mash longnose brains with. I bet youve never even wrastled a mammoth before. When big arm tribe kills boomboom loser tribe we laugh and poop in your guns.
cdeddc No.15625554
>>15625463
>>15625481
>ooga booga
Go eat a firestick. Melee only in an age of guns is suicidal without some other kind of advantage. Melee + Guns is great tho.
387eac No.15625557
>>15624725
>being a human
>being a animal
>having a brain
>having any sort of complex nervous system at all
I hope you enjoy carrying me around and giving birth to my babies and spreading my race. All with minimum effort on my part. Truly being a malicious microorganism is the most manly of occupations.
01b863 No.15625562
>>15625552
t. Caveman/fine red mist, we hardly knew ye.
feebd3 No.15625572
>>15625554
lad you can't even bend your knee to take aim with that armor and after your guns run out it's gonna take you a million years to load your guns
01b863 No.15625582
>>15625557
> Gets owned by a funky vinegar or some moldy bread
Being mono-cellular comes with a price, you amoeba
f816cd No.15625614
>>15625535
>> implying you won't run out of mana as soon as you TP in battle
Just play D&D then
387eac No.15625623
>>15625582
>Implying you can get any of those things while you're drooling on the ground because of my magnificent proliferous might
1fe8eb No.15625634
>>15625623
WhenThePurpleDrankHits.jpg
ff0e9e No.15625655
>implying a mundane, non-magic gun can make it past a basic wind wall, let alone any DR granted by any of the various abjuration spells that exist
Better yet, try out that confetti cannon you call a shotgun on an iron golem and see how well it works.
01b863 No.15625670
>>15625623
Preventing is better that treating anon. I'd like you to meet my friend formaldehyde
>>15625655
See oekaki
1fe8eb No.15625676
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15625655
>Breezy Wall
Modern technology would like a word.
9d380b No.15625683
>>15625676
Fucking DARPA babies needing autoaim.
ff0e9e No.15625702
>>15625670
I have no idea what the fuck this is supposed to convey. A legless man with a magnetic ass is beaten by a buried magnet?
>>15625676
>extremely advanced cutting edge tech can only barely beat out a low level spell
>not even trying to pretend you could beat any half decent spellcaster on a level playing field
75244c No.15625712
>>15625477
>with superior species
Didn't neanderthals actually have bigger brains and were overall more smarter back then though?
smarter as in using tools'n sheit, pretty dumb to mix it up until ya'l gone
aaa71f No.15625771
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15624882
>(((Archmages)))
>Not (((Gnomes)))
78656c No.15625787
>not combining magic and technology
If magic is a thing, why the fuck would you not use it as an energy source for you tech?
88d856 No.15625795
Fact: A nuke would fucking destroy wizards and there would be nothing they could do about it.\
Fact: Scientists would easily be able to figure out how magic works, Mages wouldn't even be able to learn Algebra
01b863 No.15625800
>>15625702
It's your shitty iron golem, stuck in place by the magnet. Enjoy your ironic failure.
>>15625759
That's the point, dipshit. Spray it on the ground and use it externally to kill every trace of microbiological life.
>>15625787
> Wanting to side with the conjurers of cock, the summoners of schlong, or the warlocks of willies
78656c No.15625804
>>15625795
>there would be nothing they could do about it
>teleport
Was it worth making a large stretch of land unlivable just to destroy his tower? That is assuming the wizard didn't teleport his tower with him.
2f34b8 No.15625805
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15625655
>Iron
>This is supposed to mean shit
Keep in mind, this is a basic bitch gun too.
58acae No.15625807
>>15625804
that image is extremely homosexual
2f34b8 No.15625809
>>15625804
>Teleport
>Implying they could react in time to a sudden fucking dropped nuke that will destroy them literally before they can even comprehend that it was dropped on them
70dfd5 No.15625818
>>15625805
Really activates my almonds.
78656c No.15625820
>>15625809
>see flash
>slow time
I can do better.
>not setting up your tower to slow time all the time anyway
2f34b8 No.15625823
>>15625820
>See flash
You idiot you don't "See flash" when a nuke is dropped on you, it literally destroys you before your brain can comprehend that you saw a flash. If you see a flash it's already too late. Also this is given your wizards already know what a nuke is (they won't) and can react in a split second to it and even with that they would still be dead.
88d856 No.15625827
>>15625655
Not even the best metal armor ever constructed by man could do shit against a high powered weapon.
78656c No.15625833
>>15625823
He does if he's in his tower cause I see no reason to not have a slow time field inside of your tower. I mean why would you not want your work place to slow time around you?
2f34b8 No.15625837
>>15625833
>Slow time
>Still dead because he would literally have to stop be in time stop before he would be able to react in time to see a nuke and run away
DAY OF THE ROBE
14cdc4 No.15625839
>>15625837
DAY OF THE VOBE
78656c No.15625849
>>15625837
Very well, what if the wizards put safeguards on his tower so it casts stop time when it detects flying nukes?
01b863 No.15625864
>>15625849
hurr durr look a flying iron golem - ooh this is some fancy explosion magic
387eac No.15625890
>>15625800
>he thinks he can spray his shit when I'm already inside wrecking his organs
78656c No.15625892
>>15625864
Are you trying to argue wizards are known to be retarded?
70dfd5 No.15625914
I'll cast another fireball. Just let me sleep for eight hours first.
01b863 No.15625923
>>15625892
Just a tad dumber than orcs
259133 No.15625940
>Not combining technology and alchemy
>utilizing your ability to understand the world and how it works (as well as knowing what you are creating and doing) to enhance your combat skills and technology to handle any situation.
>craft bombs, special ammo, and coating for melee weapons with ingredients and materials from the world to create the perfect counter to whatever you are fighting, while also crafting potions and antidotes to heal yourself and allies.
>being able to see through the trickery wizards, mages, sorcerers, etc. use and make them useless thanks to said understanding of the world.
Never underestimate the power of crafting, preparation, and (actual) knowledge.
af8f5a No.15625977
At one time electricity and magnetism were magic, now they're as mundane as springs and gears.
56ef35 No.15625995
>he doesnt rain spells down from the top of his land-ship
>his factories, mines and refineries are not hasted
>his steam golems werent upgraded from living suits of armor
>he never learned the repair spell
>he has never gotten a fairy village to obsess over firework rockets and invented touhou
>he doesnt train crack teams of navy selkies
0ad745 No.15625997
>>15625324
>that webm
Ban this scary filth.
aa2d4b No.15626018
>you get captured
>allyour gear is taken away
>you are now the best swordsman in the galaxy using your fists on the bars while seething
>or..
>you are the best spellcaster in the galaxy and portal yourself away
Stay mad weaponcucks
55d92d No.15626062
>>15625378
>thinks he is tough shit
>dies to some poisoned dagger
Go back to the library, nerd.
55d92d No.15626065
>>15626018
>errbody has portal magic
Ebin delusional magic fag.
5ffa42 No.15626069
>Bullets
I'll just fucking put my soul in a painting and hide it under my mattress. Now I'm an invincible lich.
932670 No.15626089
>belong to a race of sky stemlords and cowboys
>all your kin know is how to genocide
>fall from the sky world into some world below that nobody else is sure it exists because why not
>genocide goblins/elves/faeries/tauren/manlets with big guns
>become heavy weapons guy, own an orbital laser
>get more /fit/ and become mvp of the army you just walked into because everyone else is dyel
>learn to lift bigger guns to do bigger damage
I wish more games did this.
b11451 No.15626094
>>15626062
Just try and hit me faggot I'm behind like 100% sanctuary.
2f34b8 No.15626126
>>15626094
That anime should get her wrists looked at
5c07f4 No.15626140
>break a wizards back over your fucking knee
>take a techno dorks fancy tool and beat him to death with it
>druid turns into a tree and make firewood from him
>punch a hole through the paladins armor, neither it nor god will protect him from you
56ef35 No.15626165
>>15626140
>in some settings, barbarians dont believe in magic so it affects them less
>strength in ignorance
sounds like an act of god to me *tips wizard hat*
5c07f4 No.15626167
>>15626165
Honestly I'm a pretty big fan of silly rules like that
55d92d No.15626173
>>15626165
It works irl a lot.
>hey Alexander there are all these rules you should follow in warfare
>fuck that
>proceeds to conquer anything in his path
>repeat Genghis Khan
>repeat Napoleon
14cdc4 No.15626179
>>15626140
>>15626165
>Barbarians don't believe in magic
Isn't it usually the other way around, since they're more superstitious? Maybe they have superstitions that protect them from magic, but its not the same as "not believing in magic."
b11451 No.15626180
5c07f4 No.15626186
>>15626179
Barbarians know better than to listen to the ramblings of the long nose shaman who's shown up in the village
55d92d No.15626192
>>15626180
Reading is for nerds. And nerds are for bullying.
14cdc4 No.15626194
>>15626186
Just like they believe armor is for the weak, right?
f884f6 No.15626213
>>15626094
>100% sanctuary.
I wouldn't trust this newage bullshit.
Go bone, or go home.
15aea4 No.15626215
>implying that sufficient enough technology wouldn't be able to slowly recreate and automate the environmental factors that allow magic spells to be materialized until the two merge and become inseparable from one another
>he doesn't want to be a technomage
1dce7b No.15626229
>>15625670
>formaldehyde
How do you take yours?
79cb90 No.15626238
>>15626215
>this nigga right here
For real though, why choose either over the glorious combination of Technomancy?
715d1c No.15626242
>>15624725
>What's your excuse?
>not incorporating technology and magic to create the ultimate synthesis
Get on my level pleb.
b11451 No.15626243
>>15626213
I mean all sorcerers need to go Lich eventually, you're right there.
5c07f4 No.15626249
>>15626215
>needs to impact the target to work
good idea but beaten out by monks and speedy barbarians
1cf665 No.15626291
>>15624725
>Being a wizard, fighter, barbarian, technician, or any other class or combination of only two or even three elements at once
>Not omniclassing into technowizfightbarian and murdering everyone using all tools available, but most importantly out of all of them the tool of violence
WEAKNESS
15aea4 No.15626295
>>15626249
<I'm sure to win because my speed is superior
What if he was using a pre-loaded crossbow faggot?
e72a4d No.15626367
>>15626242
I want more settings with magitech. Like the smallest, simplest bits of magic could turn our current society into a fucking utopia. Like let's say you have a wand of sparking. It's literally just a magic stick that draws magic power from the aura of the world and turns it into a small spark, useful for lighting fires and scaring animals. Something that an average adventurer might carry with him as a convenience so he can start a fire with damp wood light or light an explosive on demand. Maybe they're standard issue for cannon operators.
Now take that same wand, scale it down, and put it into a completely bog-standard combustion engine. Bang, you now have a car that runs on magic instead of gasoline. Assuming ambient magic is not a limited resource, you have effectively solved the oil crisis in one fell swoop. I find that kind of shit fascinating and want more of it.
aaa71f No.15626378
Surprised no one has posted this yet tbh
56ef35 No.15626397
>>15626367
those oil fuckers would just suppress the magitech spark engine like they do everything else
7dfc0c No.15626402
>>15626378
Came here to roll this. Also I can work with either, both, or a combo.
21e90e No.15626410
>>15626242
>Critical miss guy
feebd3 No.15626411
cf37ca No.15626412
>>15626378
Cause that pyramid is shit. The only reason it gets posted is because it has lost of shit on it.
Also rolling
58acae No.15626424
>>15626378
techno-mancer plese
1cf665 No.15626449
>>15626367
Well, with the output of a lighter or campfire starter, or a big firecracker as you describe it, you aren't going to run a combustion engine bigger than a toy or novelty demonstrator; the energy output you can get at any one time, the throughput, is way too low. You will, however, be able to replace the spark plugs and battery for the purpose of starting the engine, and any other devices can be powered by similar aetheric means, meaning no matter where you are or how long the car has been sitting idly running small electrical/magical components with the engine off, as long as you have gas in the tank and a working magic sparkcap, the engine will start the first time, every time. Scale up your combustor element on the other hand and you could have a piston engine that runs indefinitely.
The problem with this kind of thing in setting building is you have to answer lots of questions if you want to go indepth, like, 'how do you draw the magic/aether/whatever from the air in principle?' 'How efficient is the process?' 'Are the means of tapping ritualistic, an alternative physics set, or a combination of the two?' 'How can this energy be stored and how densely, if it even needs to be?' 'How well does it scale up or down device wise; is it less or more efficient going bigger or smaller?' 'Does it replace conventional physics/engineering or supplement them, and does it resemble them outwardly or have its own alien principles of design?' As a result, most seem to gloss over these questions and focus instead on the mere aesthetic of these elements as a supplement to whatever story is being told, or on the social/societal or other results of their existence without worrying about the 'why.'
21e90e No.15626453
>>15626291
Psy-power+tech is the only good setting, everything else feels like bland bullshit.
e14a44 No.15626484
8a066f No.15626506
56ef35 No.15626632
0808a5 No.15626695
>>15624725
>>15624745
Magic is just physics and technology that isn't properly understood.
56ef35 No.15626730
>>15626695
does that still apply when its granted by spirits and deities?
fff656 No.15626747
>>15626730
Yep, we just don’t understand how spirits and deities work,
Quantum mechanics can get pretty close to magic
c4db8e No.15626766
>>15626695
Magic in Arcanum is clearly defined as bending reality to your will, technology is using the laws of reality as they are. They can't mix because of this.
449bd9 No.15626771
Magic is Satanic and for sodomites. Become enlightened with Christ's infinite wisdom.
0808a5 No.15626788
>>15626730
Of course. Science is just the process of discovering how the world works. Technology is the application of that science to create tools. A long time ago, people would have thought our use of electricity was magic, and maybe even a sign of divinity. Now, we know its just the movement of electrons across atoms of a conductive element.
>>15626766
>Magic in Arcanum is clearly defined as bending reality to your will
That just means that reality has laws that allow people to shape it through certain processes. It isn't being broken or changed; it's just following rules that people haven't yet properly discovered.
2e7237 No.15626804
Psionics are the best "magic" because the only limit is how smart you are and how powerful your will is. 40k >>15624725 and >>15626291 are both good examples.
Tales of Maj Eyal is the first game I can think of with the most varieties of "magic". In the same game there's
>Arcane magic drawn from the aether powered by mana
>Arcane magic drawn from the demon realm powered by stolen life force of living beings
>Arcane magic drawn from celestial bodies powered by balancing sun power and moon power
>Arcane magic that manipulates time threads and can cause anomalies if overused
>Nature powers that require you to do things to stay in balance with nature to pay for using them
>Psi powers that negate magic because magical energy is drawn from outside the material world and is not natural
>Psi powers using your 400 IQ brain to directly manipulate kinetic, thermal, and electric energy
>Psi powers to explore dreams and burn minds
>Psi powers fueled by pure rage and hatred
5879db No.15626827
>>15625923
Wizards are only morally and ethically retarded. Intelligence wise they are quite smart.
608682 No.15626999
>>15624725
>he's not a cummiemancer
Shut the fuck up mundane, this is a wizard only board. Who even let you niggers in here?
8a066f No.15627005
>>15626788 (Checked)
Underrated post
a6abe7 No.15627008
>>15624781
>Mixing the white man's technology with nigger voodoo
a6abe7 No.15627029
Also if y'all niggers want to >>>/lit/ there's a book series called powder mage. Basically you got pure magic casters that can wipe out or support entire armies and fortresses singlehandedly but get absolutely smoked by a couple of faggots with guns that can get high off of snorting gunpowder, since they can kill the mages from such stealth/range. The books are fairly colorblind, but it's too bad that on one of the covers it reveals on of the main characters to be a nigger. That's when I quit.
422eae No.15627035
>>15624725
<Technology
Shitty over-expensive complicated thing I can do better, easier in real life.
>Magic
Anything you want to happen can happen
enjoy trying to reproduce with your cogs, engisperg.
c8bcc4 No.15627040
>Tech
>Limited to laws of physics by screeching autists
>Magic
>Openly pisses on Newton's Grave while starting you down demanding you try to say something
7aa494 No.15627108
>>15624836
7.62 what? there is a massive amount of different 7.62 calibers out there. name your fucking case length, jackass
a6abe7 No.15627176
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15625572
Wrong
>>15626378
rolling
>>15626449
If you want a decent anime, this one has ritualistic magic that can be cast programmatically with technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Irregular_at_Magic_High_School
499f10 No.15627204
>>15627035
>>15627040
>implying this kind of magic is real and not mere tricks of the mind
All it takes is believing your magic is bullshit or understanding how it works, and it all falls apart. True "magic" is learning and understanding the ways of nature (and in turn the universe) and how it works in order to properly utilize it without changing how things work. To try and alter, change, or pervert the laws of nature and the universe is in a way denying reality and always ends in tragedy for the one making the altercations (and pissing off the gods).
This is why Alchemy will always be better than "magic".
>>15626378
Rolling
70d0f0 No.15627266
>when any school of magic is insanely OP if you apply it creatively
350eec No.15627295
>>15626378
Pretend this is a quality post, not just a roll.
d7a32d No.15627344
>>15627176
You'd think most people here would have seen this video or the others like it at this point. This topic comes up so damn much.
>>15627255
Embrace the 'tism anon.
>>15627295
>Pretend
This is some deep shit anon. I'll join you in this deep thinking. >>15626378
520c86 No.15627378
>>15627344
>You'd think most people here would have seen this video or the others like it at this point. This topic comes up so damn much.
the video doesn't take into account adverse conditions though such as rain and the mud that comes with it. the greatest example is the battle of agincourt where french knights in armor got bogged down in mud and just got clubbed to death by english archers in light armor
520c86 No.15627396
>>15627344
i should also add that the visor does make it harder to breathe even though the technology advanced enough with the duck bill visors to make it easier, it still limited your breathing. also armor being susceptible to heating up from the sun didn't help things
350eec No.15627428
>>15627378
>>15627396
I wish zombie games let you roll around as a full mobility plate armored tank using melee, even if there were significant handicaps in adverse terrain or weather.
d7a32d No.15627477
>>15627378
>terrain/environment effects
Good point, though that pretty much goes for all things combat related. Going to go look shit up now. You got me curious about some things. Thanks for giving me something to do anon.
Also back (kinda) on topic of tech and magic being effected by weather, should fire magic become steam magic in a rainstorm or should the fire be strong enough to resist it? I'm no mage lover, but it would be pretty cool to combo magic with the environment to create new spells like that.
ad2938 No.15627495
>>15626788
>It isn't being broken or changed; it's just following rules that people haven't yet properly discovered.
They already discovered it, that doesn't change the fact that magic is changing the physics the technology in the game relies on. Even if you pull the excuse of making a device that changes reality for you out of your ass the problem still remains that the rules changes so everything reliant on those rules fail.
88f56c No.15627511
>He needs cast times
>He needs to use tools to measure up
Psionic master race.
0fc38b No.15627953
>>15626449
> or on the social/societal or other results of their existence
That's just if not less explored, small changes can have big consequences, most of the time writers don't think about the implications and consequences this kind of things would have in their world.
a29905 No.15627977
>>15624836
>cast time stop
>cast Invisibility
>cast Mind Control
>>15625035
>becoming a skill mage is not skill/effort
Really now? I guess that's why everyone is a mage, right?
a29905 No.15627984
>>15625066
What you are describing isn't Technology. It by defninion cannot do everything, because it is limited by the laws of physics.
For example, you mention teleportation, which has no sceintific backing at all.
0fc38b No.15628007
>>15624725
>not basing your technology on magic
8fd79e No.15628012
>>15624725
The magic vs science meme is the worst in all fiction
8fd79e No.15628015
>>15627008
Ah, how logical of you. What a scientific mindset
a96051 No.15628027
>>15627984
> It by defninion cannot do everything, because it is limited by the laws of physics.
But the magic in a given universe IS physics in that universe, as a matter of modern scientific semantics. Magic would be a spiritual force of the universe that can supersede the universe's known laws of physics. But then, because science in that universe would include such a force, the questions of "What is the spiritual force like?" and "How does the rest of existence interact with or control the spiritual force?" immediately become new laws of physics on top of our known ones, or another set like Chemistry is. By definition, if magic has consistency, it immediately becomes scientific within the universe it exists in, and if it doesn't have any consistency at all, then it doesn't even really exist, since it can't be categorized.
ab3687 No.15628124
>>15628027
>But the magic in a given universe IS physics in that universe
But what if it is it is a power channeled from another universe entirely that, because it's not compatible with your universe, manifests as what we would call magic that breaks the physics/laws of nature of that universe? Like a literal glitch but in reality. Like a four dimensional object in a three dimensional world would not make any sense to us.
966c67 No.15628131
What about tech-magic? Or magic tech?
0fc38b No.15628132
>>15628124
Wouldn't that have to be governed by some rules of even higher order? there might be different universes, but they'd still be part of a greater whole, otherwise how would they even interact with each other?
673a49 No.15628133
>>15628131
More like fag-tech.
ab3687 No.15628150
>>15628132
>Wouldn't that have to be governed by some rules of even higher order?
You could really write novels about that kinda stuff.
I doubt that right now as we are we could even come close to some sort of theory for it, seeing as we still argue over things like gods' existence.
>otherwise how would they even interact with each other?
Could be a spontaneous occurrence, a whim of all universes aligning perfectly for a brief moment which to us could feel like centuries.
Maybe there exists a means to forcefully use your own universes laws of nature to establish such a connection or the connection is force on your universe like the 3D and 4D example, where a 4D being could perceive any dimension lower than 4 but a 3D being could not perceive that 4D being.
But then there would be the question of how far up does this go?
If we try to think about it rationally we imagine there to be an end to it, like some might assume with our cosmos.
78656c No.15628152
>>15628132
Do universes usually interact? Considering how many there would be if they could be confirmed to be real, seems to me if 2 universes interact it's more likely a freak coincidence than some rule.
0fc38b No.15628157
>>15628150
>Could be a spontaneous occurrence, a whim of all universes aligning perfectly for a brief moment which to us could feel like centuries.
that means they share some sort of "space" that that must have some rules that keep them apart or together, there's no way to space it, interaction requires a common set of rules.
>>15628152
We don't know if there are even different universes, or how that would work out, but if there are, they'd exist in a space akin to the one we live in
0fc38b No.15628158
b5f6ae No.15628165
>>15624725
Yeah tech is usually applied in much more interesting ways then magic aside from very specific settings where the magic draws on really old school type sorceries and glamou-
>Gate
Opinion discarded.
ab3687 No.15628167
>>15628157
A "higher" universe could be built upon the same rules as ours plus some extra, like an updated version of a software. If you tried to launch a file made with that updated version in an old version you'd get error messages out the ass. That's what I would imagine magic to be, a force that adhere's to the laws of another universe entirely but in out universe manifests as a corruption, the best out universe can deal with it without just exploding.
These universes can share a common "space" while still being completely separate entities. Now how to describe these "connections" that occur I'd have no idea. Portals? Wormholes? Dark Matter? For all we know those are out there, waiting to be explored.
0fc38b No.15628171
>>15628167
But the point is that you could still try to understand it, those would be some weird ass physics but still physics, you could still do science on them and also on the "space", with time it'd just become another part of our understanding of the cosmos.
8732b7 No.15628174
>>15625434
That's fine, nothing a missile fired from space won't fix
78656c No.15628176
>>15628167
Portals and wormholes would imply travel between both realms, you could maybe see it as a reaction in one that affects the other on a surface level, like 2 sheets of paper on top of eachother, if one starts curling or whatever if affects the other.
d18018 No.15628185
>>15628133
More like gradeschool-magic.
>>15628027
>But the magic in a given universe IS physics in that universe
Only if it is stated to be the case. If not, then you cannot ascertain that the shit going on is due to the laws of physics proper instead of laws of mind. The laws of physics being the laws that regulate phenomena in the physical world, but merely influence mind instead of binding it.
>>15628167
A higher "universe" does not follow more rules, on the contrary, it follows less rules, thereby granting it more fluidity. That's the very basis for the "higher" distinction: it's less base, more detached, less limited.
0808a5 No.15628284
>>15627495
>They already discovered it
They apparently didn't. If you think anyone can assume they know all the laws governing exactly how their reality works, you're really, really dumb.
>the fact that magic is changing the physics the technology in the game relies on
That doesn't change the fact that their magic is just the application of physics that they don't understand. What you seem to fail to comprehend is that, if observable reality can be changed like that, then there's some consistent set of laws governing "behind the scenes" of observable reality, dictating how that change can be initiated and how exactly it works. Discovering how those rules work is still science. Creating tools that exploit those rules is still technology.
28bdb0 No.15628321
fdfb3e No.15628332
>>15625805
>direct linking to youtube
>direct linking to a video with stock royalty free audio
>direct linking to a video where 75% of it is spent talking about nothing
>direct linking to a video of a spic
>direct linking to a video with next to no audio mixing skills involved
a6abe7 No.15628393
>>15627204
>Alchemy a win
I tend to agree. You might like this game.
bb2587 No.15628441
>>15626242
>First pic
>What is a pepperbox
b30225 No.15628457
58acae No.15628465
>>15628167
JESUS CHIRST HUMANIZED MLP CHARACTERS MAKE ME SO FUCKING HARD THEY ARE JUST SO GOD DAMN FEMININE
7d2b8e No.15628497
>>15627176
I'd like to see these fags run a mile
7d2b8e No.15628511
Super advanced technology is actually indistinguishable from magic.
Magic is just remnants of an advanced society that once existed before it was destroyed, the only ones that remember or can use the magic are the mages, witches, and secret societies that pass down knowledge on the special words needed to use the "magic"
for example your phone can speak but only when you tell it a certain phrase.
56ced3 No.15628513
>>15626410
Holy shit I remember making that image years ago. I'm glad someone saved it.
14cdc4 No.15628514
>>15628441
>shooting a gun with no trigger or firing pin
ok
58acae No.15628517
>>15628514
>no trigger
look closer
7d2b8e No.15628524
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>>15625557
actually bacteria control human emotion, wants needs, intelligence and many factors. if you flush the human of bacteria it becomes an emotionless shell.
You can transplant feces from one human to another and they can develop symptoms based on the donor.
if you are fat neckbeard your patient may become a fat neckbeard.
8294c4 No.15628526
>No setting where magic is wizards exploiting how reality is programmed
>Magic becomes less and less common not because people forgot about it, but because deities patched reality to remove exploits
>The 'spells' that remain are esoteric and powerful but extremely dangerous to those that attempt to do them without a lot of knowledge (reality segfaults are bad)
a6abe7 No.15628531
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>>15628497
wish granted nigger. Not quite a mile but there you go.
7d2b8e No.15628551
>>15628531
still lost faggot
3598db No.15628552
>>15624725
>gate
>magic vs tech
>GATE
eh? i wasnt that shit just a rice navy commercial against western medieval tech?
7d2b8e No.15628555
>>15628552
the author was in the japanese defence force and shills it hard as if they are the best.
580aaa No.15628558
Daily reminder that faggots who compromise and use an unholy union of Magic and Technology have a future as the Dwemer or Gestahlian Empire. Fucking centrists.
7e17a1 No.15628559
>>15628524
>Humanity is controlled by their germ overlords
a6abe7 No.15628561
>>15628551
>The knight has to be first
Still beat the soldier. Also their times were highly comparable.
14cdc4 No.15628576
>>15628517
Its literally just a decorative shape jutting off the bottom, it doesn't move or connect to any mechanism. Its no trigger, read the panel.
12676b No.15628588
What's stopping you from doing both?
Are you a fucking nigger?
48304d No.15628649
>>15626747
Oh no, let me guess you're on highschool
350eec No.15628757
>>15627511
Unarmed/psionic master race.
fb974d No.15628767
2c07a3 No.15628785
>>15626378
Rolling
Someone should make a tech,mage, and something else.
715d1c No.15628893
>>15628441
The point of those pages is that the wizards only made something that looks like a gun because they have only ever seen a gun but never the construction. It's literally just a barrel, a trigger on the outside connected to nothing, and a handle. They adjust quickly enough.
>>15626378
Give me something good.
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134649 No.15629022
>>15626242
Fuck what is this from its so familiar
cba3dc No.15629038
>>15629022
Gold Digger. You probably recognize the artist for his porn
93ee37 No.15629048
>pick magic
>see enemy with breach loading rifle
>begin casting spell, colours and noise everywhere
>he spots me
>im waving my hands around like a faggot fairy
>he shoots
>luckily i precasted a magic shield
>the bullet destroys the shield
>by the time i've begun casting the next shield, he's fired two into my chest cavity
>loots and sells my items to some old wizard magic items merchant faggot who doesn't leave his tower ever
>a few months later, after grinding for hours i finally have enough money to buy my gear back from the wizard
>go to the wizards tower, there's a young magician buying my items
>he leaves and begins adventuring
>is immediately killed by the guy with the rifle who has now bought a scope
>loots the items
>sells them to the merchant
>he sits there, waiting for me to buy the items back
>waiting
>waiting
This is why magic is for fags
d7a32d No.15629107
>>15627977
>becoming a skill(ed) mage is not skill/effort
This is correct. Seeing as at age 30 every human has the potential to automatically become a mighty wizard (with no additional training required).
05a83f No.15629439
>>15629107
>promoting promiscuity and early sexual initiation
fuck off
56ef35 No.15629480
>>15629439
i wonder if people would be as upset about child porn if it was children fucking children their age.
they would either be twice as upset, half, or no longer upset.
b019f1 No.15629544
>>15625086
Save it. It's all yours my friend.
cf29e4 No.15629872
>>15625354
And who do you think will damage the dps to death ?
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7c29f8 No.15630070
Why not both?
And why don't you call it alchemy?
Seriously though, is there any game which allows you to brew your own grenades (kinda like pic related)? It always annoyed me that alchemy seemingly is limited to
a) brewing potions you consume or
b) poison which your enemy consumes (or which you make him consume by coating a weapon with them and stabbing him in the face.
I vaguely recall the old Infinity Engine games allowed you to craft something like "Liquid Fire" which was a projectile with AoE damage on target, but it seemed laughably weak consumed to the classic fireball from your party mage.
7c29f8 No.15630080
>>15630070
Welp, forgot pic. But I'd really love something like that. The one thing I liked in SC2 was to unborrow a horde of banelings from underneath the enemies that were standing right atop of them, following by that sweet sizzling noise as both groups melted to green goo.
000000 No.15630277
>not picking shonen bullshit powers over both
>not soaking up bullets and spells like they're nothing because you really, really want to fight
>not overcoming poison or other negative effects by being confident
>not growing significantly and permanently stronger for every moment you spend fighting and also being practically unkillable
>not shrugging off concentrated fire from an entire military on principle
>not instinctively knowing the exact positions and actions of every combatant seconds in advance
>not being able to guess how enemy abilities function instantly with accuracy bordering on divination
>not being able to think ten sentences in the time it takes for a bullet to travel 10 cm through the air
>not pouring plastic over paper to create unbreakable carbon fiber
>not planning years in advance assuming the enemy to make several uncharacteristic, tactically unsound and completely retarded decisions and being right every time
>not quickstepping so fast you are permanently invisible to not only the human eye, but any kind of detecting equipment too
>not sneak attacking several guard squads in the same building with huge explosions without alerting anyone
>not only spitting on the laws of nature, but also on basic common sense
>not proving your superior intelligence and morals by punching things
a6abe7 No.15630461
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>>15630080
>>15630070
RIP Nosgoth but when it existed it had an alchemist class. No self brewing but it had rad area denial and support ability.
>>15630277
>not soaking up bullets and spells like they're nothing because you really, really want to fight
>not overcoming poison or other negative effects by being confident
>not growing significantly and permanently stronger for every moment you spend fighting and also being practically unkillable
>not shrugging off concentrated fire from an entire military on principle
>not only spitting on the laws of nature, but also on basic common sense
>not proving your superior intelligence and morals by punching things
Orks?
f30729 No.15630512
are there any games out there besides E.Y.E that let me go full taticool on wizards?
>>15626089
what game?
f2b354 No.15630799
>>15626378
GIB ME THE MIGHTY WIZARD WHO WILL SHOW THE GOLDEN WAY
a6abe7 No.15630856
>>15630799
>wizard
>golden way
314680 No.15630898
>>15630527
>oi didn fink me squiggz could be dis killy
>about dat one toime I gotz reinorknated as a gargant
f2b354 No.15630918
>>15630856
I, too, would enter such a mystical realm. Mysterious and mighty are the ways of the mystical wizard!
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aa2d4b No.15631000
>>15626065
shut up and i might send you a cake with a file in it.
a6abe7 No.15631012
>>15630527
>>15630898
>Ork camp host club
>Boku no Chopping Academy
ad2938 No.15631098
>>15628284
>They apparently didn't.
They did, the primary reason technology fails is because the practitioners simply can't fathom the scale and scope all the technology in the game runs on. Again the changes they make are not retroactive to any technology they try to work on so the technology fails because the rules changed.
>What you seem to fail to comprehend is that
I am not disagreeing with you that is what you fail to understand, Arcanum already defines what magic is in it's setting which is force of will to change reality. Technology isn't science it relies on the scientific method but it is the technology born from this science which only works within the framework of the rules being the consistent and the same.
0808a5 No.15631206
>>15627495
And you're still missing the point. If reality can be changed by force of will, that means that there is a set of rules, governing reality, that say it can be changed by force of will, how that process works, and what effects it has. Things can't just happen without some underlying system dictating how it can happen. While the immediate observable reality can be changed by that magic, there is a higher set of universal laws dictating how that magic works, and thus, those laws can be discovered and defined by science, and technology can be created to use that knowledge. In other words, magic isn't some entirely removed concept from science and technology from Arcanum. Its people simply haven't figured out the higher laws of their existence that define their magic, and they haven't figured out technology that stands above the mere overruling of their limited perspective of their reality.
0808a5 No.15631225
>>15631206
Whoops, how did I do that.
>>15631098
7c29f8 No.15631228
>>15630461
>Nosgoth
Nah, fuck off. People asked for a Legacy of Kain sequel for years, and what did they get? A shitty F2P title.
Just nah.
bd8de9 No.15632672
>>15624725
>a literal nigger on first pic
>a retard wearing plate armour even though it's easily pierced by bullets
>an absolute garbage tier anime
>terrible game in which tech is barely usable whereas mages can roflstomp the whole game with a level 1 spell
It's like you were trying your hardest to undermine your position.
1cba6c No.15632693
>>15632672
>a retard wearing plate armour even though it's easily pierced by bullets
>meanwhile even period-tier plate armor can withstand small arms fire
It's like you were trying your hardest to undermine your position.
7dce31 No.15632711
Technology is objectively superior to magic for the same reason guns are better than bow and arrows.
Sure, the latter is also more effective at what it does than the former, but do you know why the bow was eliminated by the gun? Because it takes one's entire life to be proficient with the latter, while you only need 2 hours at the shooting range with the former to get a killer out of someone. Have you ever seen nigger wizards? Yet there's plenty of niggers rootin tootin point'n'shootin. It's the same as using a GUI instead of using command line, no matter how efficient the latter is, the former will always have more users and with a readier response to a problem.
So why would you waste an entire life trying to cast a lighting bolt when you can use a Tesla Trooper's machinery to achieve the same with untrained niggers?
a29905 No.15632727
>>15628027
No, it is not. They operate differently on a fundamental level.
"Science indistinguishable from magic" is an oxymoron. A crap meme. Shit statement.
ALL technology MUST follow the basic laws of the unvierse (thermodynamics, conservation of energy, etc..). Magic does not. Ergo it is impossible to confuse them. Tha most sci-fi "technology" is not evne remotely scientific is a different matter.
a29905 No.15632737
>>15628551
The knight was by far the oldest in the group and the time difference was minimal. He wasn't even last.
520c86 No.15632750
>>15632711
>So why would you waste an entire life trying to cast a lighting bolt when you can use a Tesla Trooper's machinery to achieve the same with untrained niggers?
why in your argument do you put arbitrary restrictions on magic like "…waste an entire life trying to cast a lighting bolt…" when there's not any setting worth a shit with magic that has this limitation? you could also think of plenty of limitations for technology. it requires maintenance and can be disarmed or destroyed. the equipment, tools and energy sources/ammo required to maintain them adds logistical and weight issues as well. a wizard at most needs only a staff meaning they are more mobile, require very little supplies and are able to blend in to complete clandestine operations with their unassuming magic
0fc38b No.15632761
>>15632727
Magic has to follow some laws in some way, it just can't not and if magic follows laws and principles (it has to) then you can try to understand it through science and therefore make technology based on it.
a29905 No.15632769
>>15631206
>Things can't just happen without some underlying system dictating how it can happen
It can, because fuck you, it's magic. It doesn't have to make any fucking sense or follow any fucking rule. Not even it's own rules. It is chaos given form. How fireballs are created changes constantly, with no way to measure or predict or wrap your mind around it. Any attempt to understand it makes you go insane.
>a retard wearing plate armour even though it's easily pierced by bullets
Nope. At least not easily by ye olde bullets.
f3a050 No.15632779
>>15625035
Jesus fuck, that's the stupidest, most tryhard image I've seen today.
PNVS mounted so high and away from his face that he can't look through them, armor that get's in the way of shouldering his rifle, a helmet and neck-guard that wouldn't allow him to look down the sight and would obscure his view of his pouches, some weird single-piece waist armor that would dig into his thighs if the crouched and giant shoulder pads that look like they are from WOW or something.
It's a bummer that this kind of mixed-technology stuff is always so retarded.
>>15632672
>a retard wearing plate armour even though it's easily pierced by bullets
This is the sort of stupid shit people who grew up on the history channel and hollywood movies actually believe.
520c86 No.15632798
>>15632779
>This is the sort of stupid shit people who grew up on the history channel and hollywood movies actually believe.
started a lot earlier than that you stupid faggot. england has been spouting their longbow propaganda for hundreds of years
cb3663 No.15632851
>>15632727
>Tha(t) most sci-fi "technology" is not even remotely scientific is a different matter.
I think you're misunderstanding the argument.
>ALL technology MUST follow the basic laws of the unvierse (…) . Magic does not. Ergo it is impossible to confuse them.
But that in itself is something that can't exist in our universe, even before the laws of physics and such are applied. No matter what magic is, if it exists, it falls under the umbrella of the universe, and therefore the umbrella of things that can be subjected to science.
>The universe, by definition, includes all things that exist.
>If magic exists, it is therefore automatically part of the universe.
>In order for something to exist, it must be a definable concept with consistent properties, limits, and boundaries that distinguish it from other things.
>If magic exists in a universe, it therefore must be a definable concept with consistent properties, limits, and boundaries that distinguish it from other things.
>If something has consistent defining properties, this information can be systematically learned about and studied, which is all science is.
>If magic exists, it therefore has properties which can be studied, and therefore can be subjected to scientific study.
If magic isn't subject to the rules of reality, which requires boundaries as a prerequisite to existence, from which all other rules are derived, then magic is subject to no known rules, and the term is meaningless, because that means it could literally anything, everything, nothing, or a random set of things at any given time, which isn't something that could exist, let alone be controlled. In which case, no, it couldn't be scientifically studied, but at that point it would be a meaningless endeavor to try. No matter what magic is, even if it's something that's far beyond our current understanding of the laws of the universe, if it exists, it's still a part of the universe. Learning about it might be difficult, and might be an entirely new field of study, but the study would still be called science.
If the answer is "Well, it only pseudo-exists outside of what we know as the universe which requires boundaries," then it's just random bullshit that isn't even allowed to have an explanation, because it's been intentionally, arbitrarily forbidden from having one. That's just boring, because it means even thinking to inquire about it is futile, which leaves absolutely no room for intrigue. You're also left with the lingering question of why it's even capable of physically manifesting in the physical universe that has such rules, which is an obvious contradiction.
Maybe there's a reason for a setting to decide to go with that idea, but I can't think of one outside of the writing being so bad that they've written themselves into a corner where the plot demands it. And maybe I'm not being creative enough, but I can't think of how that as a concept could ever benefit a setting without the story being largely centered around it, which would probably have to be an edgy meta-commentary on religion. Otherwise, it's just an extremely lazy red herring or plot contrivance.
8fd79e No.15632855
>>15632779
But does the armor protect from the force of the bullet's impact?
f816cd No.15632882
>>15632750
>when there's not any setting worth a shit with magic that has this limitation?
Basically every setting has either this, or has casters be extremely rare because most people don't have the magic gene.
bd8de9 No.15633184
>>15632779
>posts cherry picked armour that endured the bullet one way or another
You have convinced me. But the other points still stand.
0808a5 No.15633223
>>15633184
>posts cherry picked armour that endured the bullet one way or another
Anon, people made armor specifically designed to protect against bullets. It was very expensive, and, thus, only a few nobles used it, but they were able to shape and layer armor in such a way to deflect most of the force of the bullet, so it didn't do much except dent the armor and knock the wind out of the target. Of course, such armor wouldn't be able to stand up to modern, high-caliber firearms, but it would be able to stand up to a more primitive musket, like in OP's pic.
a6abe7 No.15633626
>>15632855
If you're wearing proper gambeson like you should then absolutely. It'll still probably knock you on your ass but that in of itself is also a shock absorber.
f3a050 No.15635281
>>15632798
>england has been spouting their longbow propaganda for hundreds of years
I have no idea what you are talking about.
If it wasn't for the superiority of the English longbow, they'd have lost the one hundred years war.
>>15633184
Look at the armor-piercing ability of early firearms, now look at the thickness of armor worn throughout history.
>>15633223
The problem with bulletproof armor was maybe less the price (since we see bulletproof mass-produced armor) and more the unavoidable increase in weight.
Just look at the Kelly gang's armor, it withstood 19th century guns.
0808a5 No.15635363
>>15635281
Oh, I was referring more to plate mail like this. The shape of the chest piece diverts the bullets energy away from the body, and a smaller chest piece is worn under this to further protect the wearer from impact.
f816cd No.15635435
>>15635363
>Plate mail
Whatever you say, Gygax.
12e842 No.15642595
>>15632711
Technology is superior to some types of magic. Guns are definitely better than fireballs and lightning bolts. A wizard in the modern era wouldn't bother with Elemental magic. Instead they'd focus their studies on shit that modern tech can't touch, like divination, space-time manipulation, alteration of natural properties, telepathy, etc, and also probably trying to figure out how to automate/synthesize his magics using technological principles and infrastructure. Both technology and magic would drastically influence one-another's evolution.