cb1fa6 No.15562639
Considering how Linux isn't a solid foundation anymore, what is a good alternative OS to use for computer gaming, aside from using previous OS versions, or even considering macOS to be a serious possibility? These few posts over on /tech/ listed some options available: >>>/tech/979674
>>>/tech/979707
>>>/tech/979709
However, I have no way of knowing how useful they are without actually testing them myself, or asking Anons for their experience with them.
2a4db0 No.15562675
Linux is still a solid foundation you dull monkey, just use a fork lead by someone not fucked in the head
cb1fa6 No.15562784
>>15562675
>just use a fork
<When the original agreement developers helped make the OS under applies to all variations of Linux, meaning that them taking it to court over how they revoke the continued usage of their code will also result in all Linux forks getting shoahed
8b046a No.15562827
b88bae No.15562958
windows 10
it can run minecraft c++ edition
7571d3 No.15563678
>>15562639
I hate drawing because usually, the hard drive, mouse, keyboard, printer and all that shit should be at the bottom and the applications (userspace) should be at the top, now that I look at it It's fucking retarded, you still have to communicate with a printer in both ways
dbbb66 No.15563682
Linux is fine
Windows 10 is also fine
Stop listening to alarmist retards from both sides cherrypicking shit to fit their personal narrative and form your own fucking opinion by trying shit out yourself
cb1fa6 No.15563849
>>15562958
>>15563682
>Promoting Botnet 10
>>>/cuckchan/ is that way.
97eec0 No.15563918
175665 No.15563924
>>15563849
>muh botnet
Take your meds schizo.
12c7cf No.15563929
>>15563924
Go shill for your pajeet software somewhere else.
31b36e No.15563947
Despite the cuck of conduct thing, Linux is still the most viable "alternative" platform.
e5fd5c No.15563972
Linux is the most solid foundation because of freetard autism creating drivers, commercial support, and lack of cost.
also, the new CoC was already edited to remove necessarily politicized direct references to flavours of discrimination.
It's still not as cool or fun to use as a BSD but the updated drivers are what matters for
>muh gaymen
windows keeps breaking drivers and backwards compatibility to defeat vulnerabilities and to promote wheel reinvention so it is no longer very good at anything except specific office applications
d7bded No.15563982
>>15562639
Chrome OS op, Chrome os.
d7bded No.15563994
>>15562675
>>15562784
>>15563682
>>15563972
Fucking kill yousrelf you fucking retards! Linux had little 40 years to try and beat windows or mac and it failed and still fails, its only used by servers because it's the least expensive and uses less memory because all it does it run server applications without bloat.
Chrome os all the way
faccec No.15563997
>>15563972
>also, the new CoC was already edited to remove necessarily politicized direct references to flavours of discrimination.
What the fuck? Source on this?
31b36e No.15564004
f95254 No.15564011
>>15562639
Windows 7 with the updates turned off. You need literally nothing else.
e7f73c No.15564015
>>15563994
>Chrome os all the way
fucking moron
6f9cad No.15564019
>>15563994
>unironically recommending Google anything
>>15564011
This, W10 shills love to talk about nebulous "security threats" as if the greatest threat to one's machine isn't Windows 10.
cd7001 No.15564026
There is no "next best" for gaming. There's hardly a next best at all.
d7bded No.15564032
>>15564026
Actually there is a very good one but i don't want to spread it. because its going to attract normal shit feminist and deranged trannies and ruin it like they did to linux.
but you should all download Chrome OS.
c5d3b3 No.15564033
>using Linux for gaming
Makes about as much sense as using Windows for security and servers.
>>15563994
>Chrome os all the way
Got a good chuckle out of this, cheers mate.
f95254 No.15564035
>>15564019
The only real issue is eventually Direct X will move on and prevent you from playing new games on 7. However that won't happen until maybe 2024 at the latest and there aren't any new games worth playing anyway.
837f02 No.15564057
Windows 7 is the best for everything, except older software and vidya, then Windows 98SE is the best.
000000 No.15564058
>>15562639
>Considering how Linux isn't a solid foundation anymore
Linux never was a solid foundation, and most of its game pool ran under a fancy windows emulator.
>inb4 "wine is not an emulator"
By any sane definition it is, its entire purpose is to mimic the behaviour of another system.
cbab58 No.15564063
>>15563682
>Windows 10 is also fine
no, it's the opposite of fine
90aff8 No.15564069
>>15562639
>Considering how Linux isn't a solid foundation anymore
This is complete bullshit. Not like anyone forces you to upgrade after bad changes are made, Jesus fucking Christ. I wish I could nuke /tech/ personally.
e89097 No.15564108
>>15564069
>This is complete bullshit. Not like anyone forces you to upgrade after bad changes are made, Jesus fucking Christ. I wish I could nuke /tech/ personally.
How long are you going to leave your version of the kernel pre-4.19?
90aff8 No.15564122
>>15564108
What part of "nobody forces you to upgrade" do you not understand?
e89097 No.15564131
>>15564122
What about security exploits and fixes? Are you just saying the Linux kernel is going to be perfect as it is forever?
e89097 No.15564147
>>15564131
Also new hardware? Just to have my video card supported I needed to have kernel version 4.15 or later.
90aff8 No.15564339
>>15564131
>>15564147
Most exploits are in obscure kernel modules and only relevant because shitdistros like Ubuntu enable absolutely fucking everything by default. The others will get backports. As for hardware, my machine is from 2012 and plays all I want perfectly fine.
e89097 No.15564348
>>15564339
You realize there'll be a case where 10 or 15 years from now some hardware is going to require kernel version >4.19? You might be fine with playing what you want at the settings you want, but not everyone shares that opinion. Example being my hardware upgrade from 2012 to now was going from 1080p @ 60 Hz to 2560x1440 @ 144 Hz.
a4d2ce No.15564354
>>15562639
>what is a good alternative OS to use for computer gaming
Bare metal
3a4497 No.15564357
> Linux isn't a solid foundation anymore
>anymore
It never was
077007 No.15564373
e150c3 No.15564378
>>15562639
Haiku OS. It's an actual desktop operating system.
77cb93 No.15564696
>>15564378
RISC OS is far superior, but I think the real alternative to Windows and Linux will be TempleOS.
54dd8c No.15564702
cb1fa6 No.15564772
>All these shills pushing a Botnet, Google, and saying the "Linux isn't technically cucked" even though it completely is
Where do all these people come from?
>>15564011
>>15564057
I don't mind still using 7 until it's "end date" (Though M$ has cancelled that plan, since so many people refuse to update to 10, in favor of turning 7 into an "OS as a service" system), but I'm just trying to keep my options open so that I can jump ship at the earliest opportunity with the least amount of damage. Also, two of my devices have to run with Windows 8 because of the default drivers, so I'm also looking in that regard so that I can replace the OS on those.
>>15564702
It's still in alpha, if that's what you mean.
e71a9b No.15564930
>>15564058
Wine is not an emulator
3f7f93 No.15565326
>>15564772
>Where do all these people come from?
Google HQ brainwashing seminars
51df44 No.15565353
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Workbench 3.9/Morph OS.
Failing that, Linux.
For fucking idiots, Windows 7.
For complete fucking idiots, Windows 10.
bffedc No.15565856
I'm considering trying Qubes for native VM support.
d567e6 No.15566441
>>15564004
It's a bit better, but still cucked as hell.
I'm so fucking pissed that after all the advancements on Driver and Software Support and WINE/Proton development Linux had to fuck itself so bad. I knew it would gonna happen the day Linus dies, but not this soon and for the dumb reasons it happened.
3426d0 No.15566495
>>15564058
An emulator is a piece of software that pretends to be hardware, you clown. WINE doesn't need to emulate anything, all it does is translate API calls.
3426d0 No.15566505
>>15564772
>All these shills pushing a Botnet, Google, and saying the "Linux isn't technically cucked" even though it completely is
Look, it's really not fucking hard to understand that you can copy an open source piece of software, change it, and give a middle finger to the people who are now in charge of maintaining it. I don't understand why you want to categorize everything POSIX based–or whatever, honestly I have no clue what your criterion is–as Linux so badly. The fact of the matter is if you want to use an OS with reasonably good drivers for gaming, at all, you are going to be "cucked" in some form or another, because those drivers simply don't exist on any other platform.
7f276d No.15566520
ce2359 No.15566551
>freetards still pretending that their philosophy hasn't been proven to be irredeemably flawed
d7bded No.15567868
>>15566520
The irony is he was a glowing cia nigger himself so he killed himself.
000000 No.15568095
>>15564772
your spoiler is completely wrong, Win7 is still getting EoL at the same date and extended support must be paid for, which is exactly the same thing that was done for XP.
There's no SaaS in there, the planned combined support plan for enterprise win10 is kinda SaaS and it's a whole different thing.
000000 No.15568097
>>15564930
>>15566495
>linuxtards trying to hide behind technicalities
Emulators that emulate pure software are not uncommon.
bc2809 No.15568107
>>15564011
What's more, you can get Windows 7 to work just fine on (some) newer hardware. A laptop with a intel 7th gen processor only needed small edits in one text file to allow drivers to be installed as normal. Benchmarking showed negligible difference in performance between Win7 and Win10.
8b060c No.15568119
>>15568097
But it doesn't emulate any pure software, then it'd have to be a specific program for each .EXE you want to run with it. It translates API calls. Nothing more, nothing less, and it still is not an emulator.
07b983 No.15568179
GNU/Linux has been getting better for vidya every year for the past several years now, not sure what OP is on.
5f713b No.15568204
I have been using Ubuntu MATE for normal stuff, but I dualboot W7 for vidya, and the when not playing, Istill use it for net stuff, TBH. Wine when I tried a year ago was tiring with its drivers and shit. Maybe I will try it for bidya again when I can.
And maybe I try another distro I heard about, Solus. Any Solus users here? How it is? Anything to say about it, or at leat compared to Ubuntu MATE?
8b060c No.15568216
>>15568179
>not sure what OP is on
Not on the CoC, at least. Do you happen to live under a rock?
92478a No.15569083
>>15562784
If they fork it and make it GPLv3 (they can btw) then nothing is fucked. The FSF will protect it.
6a7b81 No.15570357
>>15569083
>the FSF
>doing anything useful
a1a5a8 No.15570420
>isn't a solid foundation
Sane people are already modifying TrannyCoC, the code revocation meme is a pile of shit and no prominent/long standing kernel developers have resigned. You're getting the exact same shit as before and the few invalids who tried to leverage it to attack developers got shot down. If there had been a purge and devs were replaced with incompetent Intel-friendly fuckwits I'd be on board, but as it stands considering Linux lost is sensationalist bullshit.
8203e6 No.15570440
>>15568204
Shit packaging system and Budgie is incredibly overrated. If you don't care about systemdicks just stick with ubuntu, you'll have every single package available. Or if you really want install virtualbox and try solus.
000000 No.15573385
>>15568119
>But it doesn't emulate any pure software
Is windows not a software?
>It translates API calls.
That means it emulates the software those API calls were intended for.
>and it still is not an emulator.
kys
3972f4 No.15573529
>>15573385
But it doesn't emulate a different hardware. It translates between Windows/Linux, not x86/68000 for example.
e64e59 No.15573594
>mfw year of the linux desktop happens and no one will be using it but me
Feels good.
a74dde No.15573613
Learn to mod consoles, and pirate their entire library of games
a74dde No.15573618
>>15573613
also, no good games have been made in the past decade
a74dde No.15573625
a38da8 No.15573629
>>15564378
I never tried Haiku, but about 10 years ago I installed BeOS on a potato PC and was amazed at how blazing fast it was, especially video (it had native drivers for the Matrox video card it was using) and file operations.
It's a dayum shame it has no software and no drivers for current hardware, so at its current state it's pretty much a novelty OS not unlike TempleOS.
But if it gained adoption and support I'm sure it would be the best alternative, with even the potential to succeed where Linux failed.
077007 No.15573654
>>15573625
>now
"The next release will be in 2019 according to Microsoft, and it won't be called LTSB anymore but LTSC. LTSC stands for Long-Term Servicing Channel, and it is the new term for that special branch for Enterprise customers."
Ok… so next year at some point I'll notice somewhere in the branding the letter B changes to a C. Anyway, my point stands. Zoomers think everything should be free to the point they will complain hardware prices are too high they can't afford the best. Why would anyone listen to an uneducated, unexperienced poorfag when it comes to technology recommendations?
Being too poor to buy or too stupid to pirate Windows LTSB 2016 is their damn fault. The best part is people still force meme-ing "muh botnet" are blissfully unaware of existing and mature tools to extricate oneself from said "botnet".
c3b56d No.15573685
>>15573654
and still, we can't get this piece of shit complete clean and usable with those metro control panel (even tho the windows 7 menu still exist, some options and menus are gone)
5dd8b5 No.15573887
>>15566495
>>15568119
The correct term is "compatibility layer".
>>15564702
Assuming you have compatible hardware and all you play is pre-XP, then yes.
>>15569083
>If they fork it and make it GPLv3 (they can btw)
They can't. If that was the case, then Linux-Libre would be GPLv3.
>>15573629
>it has no software
The Haiku OS team is trying to port every open source program under the sun. Just go look at their repositories and see for yourself. They recently ported LibreOffice and there is even a port of the Godot engine.
Supposedly, you can also run Wine on Haiku.
https://wiki.winehq.org/Haiku
000000 No.15573912
>>15573529
Pure hardware emulation is not a thing outside of old console emulators with copyright issues (such as the ps2 one).
Most recent console emus do some level of API translation because shit is so much faster and reliable than trying to build an hardware only emu and a software only emu and then chain them together.
Pretending that emulators only or primarily emulate hardware is silly, especially when their end goal is almost always running some software outside its usual environment.
51c769 No.15574987
Nigger, Linux is the only life raft you're getting for the next couple decades. Yeah, the tranny CoC isn't a good thing no matter what angle you look at it from, but it's mainly a minefield for developers of the kernel to worry about, not people trying to play video games on it.
51c769 No.15574991
>>15563994
Except it has beaten them everywhere but one place that is quickly becoming less and less relevant.
000000 No.15576442
>>15574991
>Except it has beaten them everywhere but one place that is quickly becoming less and less relevant.
Implying Android is a victory for linux, when it's a bastardized, locked down, anti-user version of it and is controlled by Google.
Implying linux VMs running in tightly controlled and monopolized cloud services are a victory for linux.
dbbb66 No.15576461
>>15574991
Android is not Linux, Aboot is running LittleKernel so its really more like Linux being used as a frankenstein monster of a hybrid kernel of Linux and LittleKernel. And as soon as Google adopts Fuchsia as Androids kernel the market share of Linux is going to drop like a brick
dbbb66 No.15576469
>>15563994
> its only used by servers because it's the least expensive and uses less memory because all it does it run server applications without bloat.
Windows can do the same thing. It has nothing to do with that. The reason Linux is dominant on servers is because of history. UNIX was invented by a telecoms company for their personal needs. When the internet first started taking off companies adopted UNIX because it was invented by a telecoms company and they knew it would provide the best framework and support for servers. After UNIX fucking died server admins needed a new upgrade path, by this point there were two options, Windows NT and the then-new Linux. They chose Linux because in the end Linux was compatible with UNIX so it was the most logical upgrade path and the least expensive route. Its just history, nothing more and nothing less.
a38da8 No.15577558
>>15573887
>The Haiku OS team is trying to port every open source program under the sun. Just go look at their repositories and see for yourself.
I took a look and I'll admit it's better than I thought. It has LibreOffice, Krita, Audacious, OpenShot, Gwenview, Mplayer2 + basic codecs, torrent clients, pdf viewers and writers, and even lots of emulators and sourceports so you can even play a few games on it (though I'm not sure how well they'll perform without hardware acceleration). Most are up to date versions, too. I suppose that's enough for basic use.
However, it's still missing some other basic programs (GIMP, VLC, Blender, Audacity, Virtualbox) and it's pretty lacking on more advanced tools such as disk, system info/monitoring and network tools. And of course, there's the no drivers issue.
>Supposedly, you can also run Wine on Haiku.
It runs but it's not really usable, since the Haiku port is very unstable and very buggy. It apparently has lots of issues due to the way Haiku handles memory differently than Linux and Windows. At least that's what the page you linked to says.
a38da8 No.15577572
>>15576469
You're forgetting that Windows NT was a buggy unstable unsecure mess. Windows only started being a proper server OS by Windows 2000.
5dd8b5 No.15578238
>>15576469
>>15577572
Also, the Apache web server was way better than Microsoft's IIS and ran better on Unix like systems than Windows NT.
51c769 No.15580233
>>15576461
>>15576442
Not just talking about Android. GNU/Kernel is currently more profitable for MS than Windows is, and why is that? The desktop in in decline, there is no getting around that, and Windows is ONLY relevant on the desktop.
dbbb66 No.15580257
>>15580233
> The desktop in in decline, there is no getting around that
Nobody believes you, stop being retarded.
80f010 No.15584989
It'll be kde trust me my dad works for him