/v/ - Video Games

>>15525637

>Havent seen a NieR: Automata in awhile.

That's because there's not much to discuss.

Most people already played it and talked it to death already

I am not one of them; its on the backlog

How come one of the most important characters in Drakengard 3, Accord, gets discussed as being around offscreen while never actually appearing in person in Nier: Automata?

How come the series' villain's shadow can be felt cast all over Nier: Automata's events - and yet its presence is never actually explicitly revealed in Nier: Automata?

Never got the real ending, refuse to play online. Kinda shitty they did that.

AND WHERE IS THE NIER REMASTER

>>15525659

Pretty sure you don't need to be online, its just harder offline

>>15525661

this

>>15525659

E isnt the true ending. its literally "i hate the other endings, so im going to fight SE to get the ending i want" which is fine

Respect the robots

>>15525649

Accord sells old weapons, and is hinted as the source of many of the weapons you purchase in game.

>>15525659

man, all the yoko taro games are in desperate need of a remake

>DoD1 is a shit monotonous game with a bag of chips as budget

>same with Nier

>DoD3 is a ps3 exclusive made with unreal engine, 'nuff saied

Man, I hate how Square Enix constantly got in the way of Taro… I'd pay them to redo them from scrath

>>15525798

Too bad that the games that get a remake are usually popular franchises that are already playable in the original form, slap some HD graphics on with no quality changes and the work here is done

>>15525798

You forgot a DoD there. :^)

>>15525812

actually i've heard that dod2 is a little better in the gameplay department, but i've never played it so i can't say it for sure

>>15525838

It's a shit tier musou with giant retards as protagonists. Remember Manah? She's back but she's an amnesiac so she wants to fuck the world again. Meanwhile Caim loses an eye and gets a pretty sweet cloak that never actually appears ingame, and one of the bad guys is fantasy Billy Mitchell and exists solely to give the middle finger to Nowe(the protagonist) because he(Nowe) is a colossal faggot.

You can play as a qt spearwoman(for all of two-four levels and then forever in NG+) and some of the music, while being generic, is fairly nice.

The second you get crouching wolf or whatever that move is called(Square Square Square Triangle, nowe jumps and slams his sword in the ground, gaining a literal second of iframes, and giving off a giant half screen shockwave that propagates as far as the draw distance and knocks down pretty much every non boss enemy).

Unfortunately neither Caim nor Gismor(Fantasy Billy Mitchell) are playable.

>>15525649

Nigger shit from all the games in the series gets talked about.

>>15525798

>man, all the yoko taro games are in desperate need of a remake

They don't deserve remakes.

>>15526025

DoD 3 doesn't really need better gameplay though (arguably more things to kill at any one time would be neat) it needs a framerate above 10 fps.

Because it's all lewds

>>15525637

Whats wrong with ending E? I thought it was beautiful and i gladly gave up my save. Was i wrong to do that?

>>15525993

>whining about the music

Underrated as fuck, the music of that game is amazing

>>15526034

bad framerate damages gameplay

so it needs better gameplay

I’m goibg for a second 100% run any challenges you guys would recommend?

>>15526170

Try not to cry

I want an drama/slice of life anime series about 9s and a2 with 2b's memories living together on earth.

>>15526175

I didn't cry at anything at all during the entire story.

the only time I did was the ending shoot em up because ai was legitimately worried I wouldn't get past the last section solo

>>15525637

why is the dude such an effeminate looking bitch?

>>15526263

It's a frail nerd boy.

This game is trash

>>15526302

How is it trash?

>>15525642

Sure there is. The "there's nothing to discuss" meme is cancerous and kills interesting discussion before it happens.

>>15525993

>and it's now borderline impossible offline and takes 40+ minutes of 2hu tier grazing to actually clear

Or be a casual like me and cheat engine yourself infinite health.

Am i the only one that found normal way too easy but hard way too difficult?

>>15526263

It's so dumb faggots like you could make wrong assumptions about the manliest shota to ever be put into a videogame.

I just have a problem with the waifu cucks who have a problem with there being a playable male character in the game. It's like they never played the first Nier or something.

>>15526263

Because he isn't made to look like an adult. He's a fucking android. Who cares?

>>15526686

The only real problem with 9s is the fact that his gameplay is a tad boring.

Doubly so for the fags that couldn't figure out that he actually had heavy attacks

>9S and 2B don't take the bait of the machines being able to feel anything

>go through the entire game with copious amounts of new information where machines are clearly designed to think and feel for some reason

>clear the game once

>end with the concept that machines must have some reason for why they seem to adapt to human culture

>think that for some reason, clearly, the machines might be trying to cling to humanity so they can learn how to kill them better

>get through second run with 9S

>humans are dead, moon base is just a computer

>obvious signs that machines have some reason for doing what they do, and in fact they go so far as to explain that machines continue to try understanding humanity by interpreting and implementing old information into their lifestyles

>finish Emil's sidequest and find out Emil made copies of himself to fight the aliens

>for some reason figure that Emil must have made the machines, since he is first found within one, and he seems to speak as though he is part machine

>found the desert heads and quickly realized that there was a bunch of bullshit that happened and I still don't get it

>get to the second half of the game

>struggling to understand what the fuck is going on in the background of everything

>A2 is a shithead like Kaine, in fact she is just Kaine

>running through and continuously selecting to follow A2 because I want to play as a battle droid and she's more fun in every way

>lose a ton of side missions because I went too far too fast

>play as 9S

>figure out by the second I saw his face that I was supposed to select him, then A2. and back and forth so I wouldn't fail 45 different sidequests at once, since A2 was hard hard progression path

>get to the end of the game

>"it was actually a proxy war within a proxy war"

>machines were created by the aliens

>androids are just replicants with higher combat capabilities

>YoRHa is just a means for morale boosting

>the moon server was designed to morale boost

>The machines only did that weird shit so they had weaknesses in their programming, so they wouldn't completely eliminate the androids, so they wouldn't lose an enemy, so they could keep fighting

>the machines in Pascale's village are strong enough to eliminate everything and everyone because they basically have the programming that tells them not to completely destroy their enemies turned off (substituted with pacifism, but one such ending implies that those are strictly choices)

>literally every feel bad ending is meaningless because everyone that you save or kill is just destined to be torn apart and scrapped in the end

>all the soldiers you kill on quests, all the machines your explode in missions, none of those feelings are real

>the air they're breathing isn't even air

>on a meta level it becomes even more desolate because there is a total manifestation of the concept of a video game being torn down; the characters within the game are only there to move the story along, nothing more or less

>they are destined to die when they are supposed to, all by a higher design (the dev on a meta scale and within the game by their creators)

>any feelings you have for any of the characters are purely manufactured and meaningless, as are the feelings characters have towards each other

This game is fucking weird.

>>15526795

Because 9S is fucking boring to play.

>>15528315

And is ending E basically saying that what you said is actually bullshit and that it did matter?

I REQUIRE ANAL PEEKING

>>15528347

A realtime hacking system would be more interesting. What I mean is a system which doesn't pause the physical world.

>>15526617

RPG levelling mechanics and infinitely spammable healing items were mistakes. I want concrete and unchanging difficulty modes with limited healing.

>>15528370

Ending E is basically just a weird secret ending that gives the player hope for the fate of their beloved characters. In the end 9S was completely justified for trying so hard to kill the machines, he just became an asshole in the process, and wanting to kill A2 was pretty much a meaningless effort that didn't matter as to the outcome; if she lived, or if she died, the machines would never completely carry out their mission because their mission was a MGS4 style endless war.

Basically all I can think of is Nier:A did what undertale was doing, but went on a bigger scale and shifted from RPG to CHURAZEE

On the note of meaningless lore

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT ON THE BEAST LORD

IS THE BEAST LORD TALKING ABOUT THE ALIENS

ARE THE MACHINES HUMANS THAT BECAME MACHINES FOR THE BEASTLORD QUEEN?

ARE THE THREE QUEENS THE SYMBOLS ON THE CHEST OF EVE WHEN HE GOES SHADOWLORD MODE?

WHAT THE FUUUUUUCK

>>15528376

>>15528347

>Play EYE Divine Cybermancy

>love running and gunning

>especially love the basic hacking system

>love the Cybermancy of control that is basically just a high-tech necromancy

>play this game

>it's a fun little shooter section that gives the same basic function of breaking through a firewall and attacking the core of a device

You don't want real time hacking, especially in a fast paced fighting game; you would be forced to park your body somewhere safe to begin the hack process. This is actually high octane, despite the fact that it feels like everything stops for you.

>>15528438

is that why the moon man endorsed undertale? im sure he's played it and loved it for that reason

>>15528438

>it's a fun little shooter section that gives the same basic function of breaking through a firewall and attacking the core of a device

Which would be fine for me if you didn't always get the same handful of hacking sections or 9S's moveset were not gimped by replacing heavy attack with hack.

>>15528473

The themes are very similar, and the shooter sections being so similar to undertale's bullet hell mixed with ikaruga's actual shootan combat, I'd understand why entirely.

>>15528482

9S's combat is made to teach you to up-swap your weapon and use varied, timed attack presses as well as having diversified combat with the shootans. I am a big fan of DMC, so I immediately tried timed presses, since I'm used to having one attack button in a CURAZEE in the first place, and because I absolutely love the shooting sections and I love taking control of big enemies to add them to my party, I had no problems with any of it.

>>15528541

has*

>>15528541

>The Cult of the Watchers

>Read

>death of humanity

it makes sense immediately why he'd have a symbol like that on his chest.

>>15528541

>never explained too.

Both are explained, I just think you weren't paying attention. You did the video game equivalent of speed reading, saw it but didn't grasp any of it. The earth stopped rotating in Nier Automata, this is said plainly, it's why there's a kingdom of darkness, the part of the earth where the sun never hits.

>>15528579

No, the red eye infection replica makes sense because White Chlorine fuckery yadda yadda, but not The Cult of the Watchers, the Queen Grotesquerie would have made more sense.

>>15528594

Ditto, you misread me, It is never explained WHY the earth stops rotating.

>>15528603

>Queen Grotesquerie would have made more sense.

>queen of the watchers

I'll give you a second to process that all.

>>15528612

I get you, but still doesn't make sense since the cult and symbol never actually appeared in this dimension, while the queen alone did (briefly), what you mean would imply that the machines had methaphysical knowledge of where the queen comes from and what she actually was.

A fucking depiction of the queen would have made much more sense, that is the true "death of humanity"

>>15528624

>>15528631

Accord is enough to tell the player that multidimentional bullshit is fair play.

>>15528603

>It is never explained WHY the earth stops rotating.

it is, had to do with the poles.

>>15528633

Aye, but while Accord can be a common cameo for taro games, such a big event in the story requires at least some coherent hints.

>>15528648

The poles? Apologies, must have missed that, where is it explained in the game?

>>15528664

My mistake, the cause isn't explained but it's something from the original Nier. I don't think it needs to be explained. It just goes the extra step into establishing how thoroughly fucked the world is.

>>15528681

You went through puberty, you're a big boy now.

>>15528755

>everyone draws 2B+9S

>clearly because no one has finished the game and just decided the main two characters should be fucking I know 9S goes crazy over 2B by the end, but I can tell no one has put any major thought into it due to the fact that 2E is clearly aware she is required to kill 9S

>no one drawing 21O+9S /ss/

>>15528814

well the fact that she has to makes it hotter right? and she doesnt have to anymore after ending E

>>15528889

>>15528906

9S+2B shipping is just kinda weird.

>>15528814

>>clearly because no one has finished the game

A large majority of Nier:A fans are secondaries due to 2B becoming popular with cosplay skanks

>>15529014

sad but true

>>15528927

Why do you say that?

>>15528927

You're a retard

>>15529158

A2 doing cute things is a huge untapped market in general.

>>15528721

tfw the only good part of Undertale was the Sans fight due to how CRAYZAY it was

tfw nothing else in the game is as exciting as that.

>>15529222

undertale is just the poor man's LISA

>>15529253

Lisa was a ham-fisted RPGmaker tripe

>>15529267

You just described undertale.

>>15528541

I've always assumed Nier's earth and the drakenguard world are stuck in a time loop.

The magic city gets transported from future earth to the distant past of the drakenguard world->this causes magic and other crazy shit to start happening in Drakenguard world ->Drakenguard 3 and 1 happen->magic salt lady gets transported to earth in the past-> this causes magic and crazy shit to start happening on Earth-> Nier 1 and 2 -> at some point in the future someone on earth builds the magic city that will eventually get thrown through time and space to the Drakenguard world->repeat forever.

>>15529312

Not exactly. It's just numerous parallel timelines. The queen Grotesquerie does not get sent to an alternate world, just far into the future. Drakengard takes place in 1000s Europe

>>15529298

I agree that both the story concepts are very easy, but when you get down to the thing that makes each of them video games, I disagree

LISA has a very simple RPG combat system. You flip through menus, you mash the attack button, you heal if you need to

Undertale has an actually memorable combat system that sets it aside from all the other trash; while I love OFF, it suffers from the concept of putting the story first above a complex core game. That's why I really don't like most top-down turn-based RPGs; they're all so slow when you get to the combat, which is 50% if not more, and the other 50% is the walking around the world and the story, which are the two least interesting aspects of a game most of the time when the story is very simple and the world is not fun to explore.

The one thing that holds Undertale back is the fact that Toby had a story that he wanted to tell and let that get in the way of making the other half of the game, the genocide route, any fun or at all interesting; I understand why he did that the way he did, but I feel like a person who is willing to kill everything in the world is already determined to get to the Sans fight at the end, so there's no reason to make it a troublesome bout of the most boiled down versions of battles. It especially makes less sense that enemies would try harder to kill you in the pacifist route because you would think these creatures would be trying their absolute top form abilities on a guy brandishing a knife with the intent to use it. Again, besides that, the rest of the game is great. It could even be said that it's kinda backwards, in that most games force you to kill and won't let you have that pacifist option, but in undertale the reverse is true, but the reason I have problems with it is because I'm just a heartless monster and I want to do SSSICK SMOKING STYLE all over the faces of everything I see.

TL;DR no u

>>15529278

oboj/10

>>15529258

>get all weapons

>get all endings

>get all achievments

>get all archives

>all quests

>…

I really mean 100%

>>15526672

Hard is also piss easy, git gud faggot.

9s is best scanner.

>>15530432

Is not that hard, the problem is when you die, losing your chips and having to redo a lot, that's just annoying.

>>15530449

9S did nothing wrong

test

I have two questioned that were never answered in all my autistic discussion of this game. Firstly, why does Eve have the Watcher's symbol on his chest? Secondly, What is the relation between Hegel and the four other spherical bosses? The four spherical bosses are the four great Chinese philosphers, using their Japanese names, Sho-Shi, Boku-Shi, Ko-Shi, and Ro-Shi. Hegel's body is made up of 9 of these spherical machines, but as far I know, the German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel has no relation to the Chinese philosophers.

>>15526617

>>15526672

They fucked up the balancing badly. In the demo, Normal was Normal and Hard was Hard. In the final game, the gap between them is too big. Most enemies die too quickly for any given difficulty and level difference where they don't oneshot you. Game is overall too easy and P* really dropped the ball. There's shouldn't have been a player and enemy level system. It should have just been progressively stronger static enemies unlocked as the story continues with just the chips and weapons powering you up and everything else be pure skill.

>>15526686

The people complaining about 9S getting the most playtime have a problem with his playstyle, not him not being a waifu. Because he is a waifu. :^)

>>15528579

>There's a reason for the Watcher's symbol on Eve's chest

>Read this thing to find out!

Can't find it. Please explain.

>>15528603

>Ditto, you misread me, It is never explained WHY the earth stops rotating.

It's not explained in this game, but in supplemental materials to the Taroverse from before it came out, the planet was nuked to hell so bad in such way as to alter the Earth's rotation so that one side always faces the sun.

>>15529419

>The queen Grotesquerie does not get sent to an alternate world, just far into the future. Drakengard takes place in 1000s Europe

But the events of DoD can't be so easily erased from history, such as magic, fantasy races, all the ruins, etc. She's not just sent into the future, but into the future of an alternate timeline where the magic city did not appear and history proceeded as normal.

>>15528375

I should have save the image, but I never did. You see, originally there was an image where you could just barely see the spokes of 2B's anus and they were pink in color. This image mysteriously vanished and later, after the meme about 2B's asshole being visible in game had been spread, someone make a fake. Initially, this lead people to believe that this fake had been the source of the rumor, but the fake had a brown anus, thus giving hope to anons that the true anus spoke may still be out there.

>>15528814

>>15528927

You're fucking retarded. 9S becomes aware that 2B is made to kill him. Regardless they're still in love. Did you even play the damned game? As 2B, you can pretend not feel or hear anything during the checkup at the beginning of the game so 9S molests you. Having not played the game this appears to be generic fanservice, but having played it it is obvious she's desperate for his touch. When she finds out his memory has been wiped again, after they had grown closer through the tutorial mission, she clenches he fist in anger. They even zoomed in on that shit. When she kills him, she fucking straddles him while she chokes him to death. 9S and 2B being star-crossed lovers is the whole fucking point of this tragedy.

>>15532119

>But the events of DoD can't be so easily erased from history, such as magic, fantasy races, all the ruins, etc. She's not just sent into the future, but into the future of an alternate timeline where the magic city did not appear and history proceeded as normal.

>normal

https://nier2.com/timeline.html

>>15532119

The watchers are the angels that are servants of destruction in drakengard, from what I understand. They are intent on the destruction of humanity, which is the machine's primary goal.

>>15532158

Normal until a giant and a dragon showed up in 2003.

>>15532195

Humanity already ceased to exist long before Automata happened, so there's no reason for the Watchers to interfere in that world by the time Eve is created. Simply having the same goal isn't really an explanation.

>>15532199

You don't understand, you dense fucker

the only reason it's on his chest is because the watchers are a symbol of death to humans; the machines literally do not know humans are already dead, so wearing a badge that blatantly depicts the end goal of "I want these guys dead" is the most symbolic thing you can wear

It's like if there was some symbol that represented the death of all turks, Vlad Tepes would sure as shit wear that all over his body and cloaks; even if he didn't know they were all dead, if he were fighting against them, he'd fucking wear that shit

How does it play on M+KB? I could stomach all the dark souls with it so i don't really mind, i'm just wondering if it's worse. How's the PC port overall?

>>15532216

>so wearing a badge that blatantly depicts the end goal of "I want these guys dead" is the most symbolic thing you can wear

How does Eve, who was literally born yesterday, know about the Watchers? Only the Red Girl and Adam even looked into Humanity's past. I also can't recall if any symbols of the Watchers ever existed in this timeline, but maybe the army the Watchers created spread the symbol? Would need a source on that.

>>15532225

I played through the game twice and it crashed once. I didn't bother with any graphical settings. My pc is pretty nice, and the game ran smoothly.

It has controller and mouse and keyboard support, but I immediately plugged my controller into my pc. Action games simply aren't designed for the mouse and keyboard. If you really insist on it, then go ahead.

>>15532241

Can i *move* in the direction the camera is looking or am i stuck with 4 directions on WASD?

>>15532246

Such as?

>>15532257

WWI and II for example.

>>15532246

I miss Caim, he did nothing wrong.

>>15532158

>>15532266

>The results from a secret study on the corpse of the "Dragon" suggest the existence of a parallel universe separate from this world. The existence of parallel universes is proven.

This is basically taken straight from this link >>15532158

>>15532266

But those would happen in the regular timeline anyways. Where does all the magic and shit go then? It's not like the events of DoD or DoD3 happened before recorded history. The city appears in 856AD. Zero does shit around 1000 AD. Caim does shit around 1100 AD. The world into which the giant, dragon, and Caim are transported is largely incompatible with the events of the magic timeline.

>>15532225

It's awful at first but with some minor tweaks it can become pretty good, I'd recommend a script so you can use the extra mouse buttons, also you'll probably need to up the sensitivity and with thst you're pretty good, definitely playable and really good once you get used to it.

As for graphics you'll need FAR mod

>>15532233

Adam told him everything pretty much

>>15534102

Adam didn't even tell his brother he was going to go fight to the death. He told him some things, like "wear clothes" and "eat apples". Basic shit.

>>15534136

It was way more than that, but it's mostly explained outside the game though, a shame

>>15534501

>RPCS3

How stable is it currently?

>>15534564

I've played to the Facade wedding bit and I hadn't had it crash or have any major slowdown yet.

>>15534607

It's the best kind of DLC. The one that either is just some bonus content, or doesn't even matter. It'd have been much worse if the DLC was important to the story.

>>15534607

>This game really deserved better.

What the game needed was better bosses, because holy fuck they are easy

>>15534611

Story expansion DLC is fine, but I prefer DLCs that are self-contained stories. My ideal would've been perhaps a DLC in which you take part in the Pearl Harbor Descent, maybe you play as A2 or something.

>>15534882

Something like this would be best. A smaller isolated story around the same time as a new character would have been much more fun.