3a8f5c No.15516369
Nothing's really going on in regards to Sonic right now, so let's have a Sonic thread. What's your
>favorite game
>favorite character
>favorite OST
>opinions on the cartoons/comics
>thoughts on the future of the series
Also there's a movie coming out next year, God help us.
121db3 No.15516432
>favorite game
Mania or Generations, or Adventure 2
>favorite character
E-102 Gamma, easily
>favorite OST
Mania or CD
>opinions on the cartoons/comics
AoSTH is a good silly time and I always thought it looked like the animators had fun with it, never really got into the comics myself all I know is that Ken Penders is a chump
>thoughts on the future of the series
I hope the Mania sequel is all original content, maybe call it Sonic Discovery like they wanted to in the first place. I'm also hoping they take a few pointers from that Sonic Utopia guy regarding the next 3D game. Sega probably won't but a man can dream
b93c87 No.15516506
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Sonic sucks now tbh. It used to be ambitious, even if it ended up being a burning train wreck, but now it's too "safe".
f81b39 No.15516540
>>15516432
Speaking of Ken Penders
a94924 No.15516555
>>15516540
Glad Sega dropped Archie.
4653ee No.15516558
>>15516506
I hate how everything so far looks worse than Racing Transformed.
941359 No.15516615
>>15516558
did they remove any features? the racing seems more or less the same to
acf1b9 No.15516620
does rouge have stds or can i bareback jackhammer her bat anus like im trying to fuckstart the auxiliary life support system before i suffocate on a derelict cruise ship?
8e6844 No.15516621
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>>15516369
>favorite game
Adventure 2 or S3&K.
>favorite character
Robotnik, which I didn't expect. He finally has the perfect balance of serious villainy and comic relief that they've been looking for since the 90s. Unfortunately, the protagonists are now so one-note that there's almost no point in seeing them interact with him.
>favorite OST
Adventure 2 on its own merit, but remixes of S3&K songs are good shit.
>opinions on the cartoons/comics
Growing up, the comics always felt weird, dark, indulgent, and aimless, and the early cartoons had a similar feeling, with the exception of AoSTH, which was fun. Sonic X was obnoxiously written, poorly paced, and horribly acted. I hear it was passable before 4kids got hold of it, but I'm not about to take the time to watch it again. Sonic Boom wasn't what I would have hoped for, but it wildly exceeded my expectations.
>thoughts on the future of the series
They have no fucking clue what they're doing, and they're not going to make anything worthwhile again until they can get talent to stick around for more than a year. They don't understand the physics that made Sonic games satisfying, and they've lost their ability to tell a story.
The games have become saturated in this Disney Channel cartoon vibe that totally betrays any serious story line that they want to tell. I don't mean that Sonic necessarily needs to be a serious series all of the time, I mean that it used to be capable of treating serious events with a serious tone when it wanted to, which was to its benefit, and distinguished it from its main competitor. SA2 was where the series hit maximum cheese, but is still remembered fondly for its tone. The story of the ARK meant something to the audience because it meant something to the characters involved. It was told like a series of refrigerator drawings, yet it conveyed so much emotion that it impacted a generation.
Forces never gives the audience a chance to stop rolling their eyes, because it works on a double standard of seriousness. They don't treat the topic of global war with the sobriety that it deserves, yet act like you should be taking it about as seriously as SA2, just because its topic is also serious. But that's not how it works, because execution is everything. The last 15 minutes of SA2 will always have more emotional weight to it than the video game equivalent of Phineas & Ferb getting drafted. If they're going to keep including serious topics like they did in the Adventure era, then they have to start understanding tone like they did in that era too, otherwise, they should just become a totally safe, family-friendly game series like Mario, and save themselves a lot of embarrassment.
8a4f2c No.15516657
>favorite game
Probably Sanic 3 & Knuckles.
>favorite character
No opinion.
>favorite OST
See above.
>opinions on the cartoons/comics
See above.
>thoughts on the future of the series
FUBAR.
3a8f5c No.15516793
>>15516506
I completely forgot this game was even happening until a few days ago. I don't think I have anything to say about it other than it looks standard as fuck.
>the items are wisps
Couldn't they've just made a Colors 2 then left them alone? Putting the wisps into everything just screams
>we had one really good idea almost a decade ago so we're gonna keep repeating that idea over and over because clearly that will make the games good and not stagnate
bdfee8 No.15516889
>>15516657
>favorite game
Sonic CD. Really don't see how other games except Mania can compete. Sonic 3 & Knuckles is only good cause of nostalgia.
>favorite character
Knuckles
>favorite OST
Sonic CD Japan and America OST
>cartoons/comics
Comics were good until issue 50. The silly one with Sonic, Tails, and the bird robot and the Saturday morning cartoon with Sally were good. Everything else was garbage.
>thoughts on future
Optimistic. Generations and Mania were great and they're pretty recent. Wouldn't be surprised if we hit another decade of garbage either though.
313194 No.15516895
>>15516621
>Sonic should be more serious in future games
I'm all for better storytelling but we shouldn't let the preachy types touch the story of Sonic. We don't want Sonic lecturing us about the benefits of diversity and BLM.
8364d8 No.15516957
>>15516369
>favorite game
sonic CD. It actually made me throw up when I first played it as a child
>favorite character
robotnik. also let's have a sonic OC thread.
>favorite OST
green hill still.
>opinions on the cartoons/comics
>he knows how to read
fuck no. the cartoons were shit also.
>thoughts on the future of the series
it'll now turn into fan service to go together with the cringy 3D games. nothing more to see here folks. sonic is dead again probably.
9e0a89 No.15517809
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>thoughts on the future of the series
Sonic Team should stay the fuck away from classic Sonic. They're trying so fucking hard to recreate the genesis games, yet it never fucking works. Hell, they can't even get the music right, they went through all the trouble of making the songs sound like they'd come from the genesis games, but it's entirely in FM, which is something only western developers did.I also hope they get the mania devs back for a sequel, this time without the fucking nostalgia mandate,.
How are the new sonic comics by the way?
0340a3 No.15518432
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>>15516895
>Sonic should be more serious in future games
I'm not saying that it has to be, I'm just saying that if they want to play that game, then they should play it right. They've proven it's possible, but the last time it happened was 15 years ago.
>We don't want Sonic lecturing us about the benefits of diversity and BLM.
They put Sonic in a gay pride event, but their Twitter memelord shits on Tumblr and Communism. They're vulnerable to severe infection, but they're not there yet.
9e0a89 No.15518465
>>15518432
>They put Sonic in a gay pride event
Well that explains why Tails is so fucking lost without Sonic in Forces.
6c048e No.15518492
>favorite game
After all these years, it's still Sanic the Third and ya boi knux tbh fam
>favorite character
Spiky goku, I like it when he uses the dragonball crystals to turn super saiyan
>favorite OST
Stardust speedway tends to get stuck in my head, but Hydrocity Zone act 2 is fucking great, and there are numerous good tracks to choose from. I don't have a favorite.
>opinions on the cartoons/comics
Eh. That cartoon network show wasn't so bad, huh?
>thoughts on the future of the series
It's dead. Sonic Forces ruined it. Sonic Mania, while good, was a one-time thing that can't be replicated. The next Sonic game will likely be worse than Forces, but Sega has proven time and time again that they'll never let Sonic hit rock bottom, just so they can trudge him out again for the audience to laugh at, and all because they know that the franchise has brand recognition and will sell. He's their Mickey Mouse. Their bread and butter. He's the pewdiepie to their YouTube. If you catch my drift.
e779aa No.15518896
>>15516793
SONICS ARMS ARE NOT BLUE
acf1b9 No.15518949
>>15518921
is the siege tower supposed to be a tetris line block?
aa1f16 No.15519640
I'M THE BIGGEST OF MASKED MEN, I AM THE CRASHER OF PLANES
I'M THE BREAKER OF SPIRITS, I AM THE RISER OF FLAMES
I'M THE LAST ONE THAT'S FLYING, DON'T BRING YOUR FRIENDS IN MY WAY
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN UP AGAINST BATMAN, JUST TAKE A LOOK AT MY NAME
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE FLYING WITH ME, I AM A FORCE TO BE RECKONED
I AM THE MASTER OF PLANS, I'LL CRASH YOU DOWN IN A SECOND
'CAUSE I WAS BORN IN THE DARK, IT ONLY BLINDS IF YOU LET IT
SO IF YOU THINK YOU CAN SHOOT ME, YOU MUST BE FEELING HOT-HEADED
AND WHEN YOU FILED YOUR PLAN TO HAVE ME BOARD
I played you right into my own game
SO I'LL GRAB YOUR PRIZE AND START THIS WAR
I'm gonna sink you like a tidal wave
WHEN EVERYTHING YOU'VE PLANNED FOR FLIGHT IS GONE
CIA has fallen, I am rising higher
AND EVERY WING YOU'VE HAD HAS BROKEN OFF
What they'll find in the wreckage is fuel to my fire
AND THERE'S NO AIRCRAFT LEFT TO FLY YOU ON
My fire is lit, your crash is imminent and
I PERMIT
YOU DIE IN IT
AND REST IN DISGRACE ON THE INTERNET
SO LOOK ABOVE YOU AND TELL ME WHAT YOU REALLY SEE
I'M NEVER FALLING, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN YOU AND ME
SO WHEN YOUR FLIGHT IS STOPPED AND EVERYTHING IS CRASHING DOWN
IT'S ONLY PAIN FOR YOU, WHO IS GONNA SAVE YOU NOW?
SO LOOK ABOVE YOU AND TELL ME WHAT YOU REALLY SEE
I DON'T FAIL MY PLANS AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN YOU AND ME
SO WHEN YOU'VE GOT NO FRIENDS AND NO SURVIVORS LEFT AROUND
IT'S ONLY BANE FOR YOU, WHO IS GONNA SAVE YOU NOW?
c64e3b No.15519707
>Nobody posting the autistic genderswap Sonic gun gals
Someone still needs to submit Coldsteel.
acf1b9 No.15519884
>>15519766
well now thats just adorable
4d4aaf No.15520246
>>15519766
Sauce? Or did you make that yourself?
f2f239 No.15520293
>favorite game
Sonic 3 & Knuckles or Sonic Advance 3 for 2D, Sonic Unleashed or Sonic Adventure 2 for 3D
Honorable mention to Sonic Battle
>favorite character
Metal Sonic, just wish he'd appear in some better games
>favorite OST
Sonic Adventure 1 is pure sex throughout the entire soundtrack.
>opinions on the cartoons/comics
Some cool shit hidden throughout the autism. I really liked Scourge despite literally being evil Sonic, but he was basically what Shadow should have ended up being.
>thoughts on the future of the series
Sonic Team managed to trick everyone for a few years into thinking things were getting better and that bad times are over. But now we're back to the days were it's obvious they have absolutely no idea what they are doing.
>>15519766
Humanized female sonic characters are the greatest thing.
522f52 No.15520333
>>15519766
God, if only sonic wasn't bound by its terrible art style.
daa11f No.15520341
>>15516369
Fucking Rouge the Bat stealth game when? It should have been done years ago but SEGA is too fucking dumb to do the obvious.
4653ee No.15520390
>>15516615
>the racing seems more or less the same
>vehicles don't transform
>tracks don't transform
>less characters
>less tracks
941359 No.15520416
>>15520333
wasted trips big guy
941359 No.15520450
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>>15520390
selfish maybe on my part but i sucked shit at the boat/plane vehicles, i get why that sucks though
>tracks don't transform
yeah that's gay
>less characters
makes sense seeing as it's only sonic and not sega, but still shitty
>less tracks
dumb goy, wait for the exclusive edition !!
game still looks quality though
f81b39 No.15520539
>>15519766
Reminds me of the human shota kirby that someone here made
65b448 No.15520560
15dcb7 No.15520733
>>15519640
So glad to have this saved and easily accessible.
b5d12f No.15520802
>>15520341
Shadow kind of fucked any chances of a spinoff game with his own.
65b448 No.15520881
>>15520560
Might finish this tomorrow
4d4aaf No.15521084
>>15520881
Legs could use some work, also where're the hands.
0ff1e6 No.15521096
51c969 No.15521103
>>15520881
You should not finish it ever, and instead put your talents to better use.
f2adb0 No.15522764
>>15519766
def cute, but it's been done
000000 No.15522793
Daily reminder:The sheer autism of the fanbase ruined the franchise. Polite sage.
26a0e8 No.15522804
what future? the series is gonna get whored by Sega and Porn artists until it gets pushed into obscurity
not to mention the 2D gameplay is starting to get stale, i had more fun playing as Lilac in Freedom planet than playing as Sonic for the Gorillionith time
3D sonic is doomed, not because of the cringy fandom but because the publishers know that at least a Million or so customers will buy whatever rushed garbage they pull out because fan-loyalty=free shekels
i have seen impressive Sonic 3D engines that by far surpass the hedgehog engine by miles (both in terms of physics and detail)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tCtkPbb1gE
personally if the Fans created the games instead of Sonic Team 3D sonic might've actually had a chance, but… life is a struggle.
9e0a89 No.15522863
>>15522804
>i had more fun playing as Lilac in Freedom planet than playing as Sonic for the Gorillionith time
>Had more fun playing a reskin of Sonic 4 because it didn't look like Sonic
You just have shit taste.
6a1a38 No.15522872
Sonic CD in Japanese has the superior soundtrack.
3b7a0a No.15522895
>>15522872
I'm autistic, so the fact that the past tunes in the US version don't match their melodies with the present and future tunes bothers the shit out of me. And I actually prefer some of the US songs more.
26a0e8 No.15522918
>>15522863
Sonic 4 was utter shit
what made do you compare Freedom Planet to Sonic 4??? are you retarded?
f2f239 No.15523217
>>15522804
>All those little details in the movement mechanics potentially letting you do all sorts of crazy shit while going fast if you're skilled enough
This. Right. Here. Is what 3D Sonic games should be all about. You can't really do pinball mechanics in 3D without turning Sonic into Marble Madness/Monkey Ball; and boosting itself is quite boring. So the focus should all be acrobatics/parkour.
43668a No.15523476
>>15516540
>That's the moment when he's talking about his daughters' wisdom
These spineless kniving fucks. Kike isn't even enough of an insult anymore. Ovenbait, maybe?
ac5625 No.15523509
>>15518949
probably represents nintendo labo
>>15520539
this one?
52fcee No.15523532
>>15516506
I feel like Sonics going through it's nostalgia bait phase. I remember nintendo had one as well
52fcee No.15523564
>>15516369
>favorite game
Probably Adventure 2 or mania
>favorite character
Who fucking knows. Nobody knows what Sonic is especially Sega. Ever since heroes the whole thing has had 0 consistancy which is the real reason that it's all gone to fuck
>favorite OST
So much good shit can't pick one
>opinions on the cartoons/comics
Flynns run in the Archie comics pre-reboot was brilliant. When consider the mess he was given it makes it even more impressive, when I first read it I wasn't even aware of the hell the other writers had created
>thoughts on the future of the series
It's fucked
f2f239 No.15524161
Don't recall seeing a Sonic thread be this dead. Then again this board has been getting a tad bit slower in general.
36459b No.15524230
>>15523509
thats some gay shit anon
15dcb7 No.15524282
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>>15522918
Allegedly the game's physics were more faithful to the original Sonic games but was casualized in the final release so people could go through the loops, ramps, and slopes more easily. Embed related.
The sequel has Taxman helping out with the engine, though. So we'll see how that will turn out.
387857 No.15524284
>>15524161
It'll just need a few more lewd pictures to get the ball rolling and exponentially accelerate it into the sunset.
My only experiences with Sonic have been Somari, Sonic R, all those YTPs with Long John Baldry going pingas and holding a diploma while the background music goes dootle-dootle-dootle and all the autism on the internet, but it in my experience these threads always go a little slowly until they devolve into either autism or porn dumps.
4653ee No.15524311
>>15524284
I'll try to help.
64b2fd No.15524372
>>15523509
>probably represents nintendo labo
Are you fucking retarded?
458427 No.15524384
164856 No.15524417
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>ctrl+f sage: just 1 autist
>ctrl+f xtreme: nothing
niggers, what are you doing? We literally have 60fps Sonic (Z)Xtreme running on real hardware looking better than all other versions of the game
4decd9 No.15524423
>>15516620
She probably wouldn't fuck you unless you were literally a precious mineral or had four dicks.
f2f239 No.15524429
>>15524284
You are correct.
>>15524384
Besides being extremely fuckable, her personality is pretty great. Decent waifu material.
654d35 No.15524434
Someone fill me in on the IDW comics. How are they preforming? I haven't read any past the first issue.
>>15524311
>marthedog
9e0a89 No.15524440
>>15524282
>Allegedly the game's physics were more faithful to the original Sonic games but was casualized in the final release so people could go through the loops, ramps, and slopes more easily.
Aren't the Physics just taken from another fangame that also uses Sanic 4-tier shit. Not that i take what galaxy trail say at face value anyhow, the poz is setting in pretty firmly there.
4decd9 No.15524467
>>15522793
Actually what killed the franchise was revisionist history about the franchise in the 7th generation when geek culture took off as a social icon more than intrinsic appreciation for the medium, and it certainly doesn't help that the current readily available sanic for, really, any system was Sonic 06, which was one of the few objective pre-culture boom titles that was genuinely bad.
Doesn't help that it fucked sonic team up and they constantly struggled with trying to get a formula for a new sonic game when really there wasn't a problem with the format they had, it's just that '06 is a fundamentally BADLY broken game. It's why the moment unleashed came out, everyone immediately came all over themselves over the Day stages despite crying about the entire series being irredeemable shit like 2 years ago.
It's a shame to see that they're STILL stuck on the idea they need to reinvent the formula. Because really they could put out Adventure 3 with much of the same of Adventure 1/2 with Speed/Search/Shoot stages and it would actually perform fairly well.
055e58 No.15524482
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Let's watch the episode of AOSTH where Tails grows into a giant and vores a town (not making this up)
9e0a89 No.15524494
>>15524467
>It's a shame to see that they're STILL stuck on the idea they need to reinvent the formula. actually perform fairly well.
Do they even care. Their idea of "reinvention" for forces was completely automating the fucking game. Yet at the same time they've spent 4 fucking years making the damn thing and it's still very obvious the final product wasn't finished.
f358e5 No.15524495
>>15524482
What happened to just calling it "eating"?
9e0a89 No.15524511
>>15524496
>Robotnik gasses Tails
>Didn't kill him because he isn't jewish
4decd9 No.15524514
>>15524494
Well yeah, it is unfinished, they basically shit it out after 4 years of dicking around with Generation's engine trying to make a new game only to make the arbitrary goal of putting out a 25th anniversary game in addition to having a game to shove out in conjunction with Christian Whitehead's project that was set for release.
Incidentally they accidentally retconned the entirety of mania and potentially generations on accident pushing Forces out with a half assed tie in story and arbitrary inclusion of classic sonic.
dba820 No.15524522
>>15522804
Everything in this post applies to almost every video game franchise in existence
>i have seen impressive Sonic 3D engines
The engine is one thing, actually using it for level design is another
f358e5 No.15524526
>>15524514
>Incidentally they accidentally retconned the entirety of mania
How? Classic Sonic in Forces is supposed to be the same one from Mania, right after he gets drawn into the portal at the end of Egg Reverie.
9e0a89 No.15524533
>>15524526
>How? Classic Sonic in Forces is supposed to be the same one from Mania, right after he gets drawn into the portal at the end of Egg Reverie.
From what i remember of the game, that's not actually what they did. Lil' Sonic is said to be just a manifestation of the Phantom Ruby,
4decd9 No.15524543
>>15524526
Because the Phantom Ruby has no other (real) powers than creating illusions.
It's not supposed to be a phenomenal secret gem with comparable powers to a big fucking chaos emerald. It can't be used a giant power source for a titanic robot. It doesn't cause things to happen space time compared to LITERALLY EVERY other various gemstones in the sonic series Timestones, world rings, Sol emeralds.
Despite what it does in Forces, which INCLUDES RIPPING A HOLE IN SPACE TIME TO TRAP SONIC IN A PARALLEL DIMENSION except not really it didn't actually happen it was an illusion shut up
Classic sonic is an illusion.
All of the reality warping was an illusion
And fundamentally, Eggman, or if we're going to be picky Robotnik in Mania would be literally unable to do much of what he did because of it.
f358e5 No.15524546
>>15524533
Your memory is very fucked, then. They don't say that at all. Hell, in the Mania Adventures animation, Sonic appears out of the portal in the middle of him waving goodbye to all the modern characters.
9e0a89 No.15524548
>>15524533
>Lil' Sonic is said to be just a manifestation of the Phantom Ruby,
I meant, *implied
15dcb7 No.15524554
>>15524533
Everything created by the Phantom Ruby, at least in Forces was fake, but Classic Sonic there isn't. The portal was created when the emeralds interacted with the ruby causing a dimensional rift.
Also what
>>15524546
said. The fake copies of the enemies in Forces have red, glitchy cubes when they appear and fade away. They don't show up when Classic Sonic leaves.
654d35 No.15524555
>>15524543
>Forces was an illusion
Finally some fucking sense.
9e0a89 No.15524562
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>>15524546
>Hell, in the Mania Adventures animation, Sonic appears out of the portal in the middle of him waving goodbye to all the modern characters.
While in Sonic Mania Plus, they more or less retcon it so that Sonic goes back to Angel Island.
f358e5 No.15524563
>>15524543
Them being inconsistent with the powers of the Ruby and their explanation of it in Forces does not mean it suddenly retcons everything in Mania. If anything, their own inconsistencies within that one game gives us valid reason to say Mania was entirely real. If they can say the Ruby's powers are purely illusionary, then turn around and use it to trap Sonic and OC in null space, then what stops Classic Sonic from not being illusionary? They show, in that game, that the ruby isn't entirely illusions.
4decd9 No.15524575
>>15524563
Oh believe me, the mania interpretation of the Phantom Ruby makes way more goddamn sense, and it's retarded that they even tried to go for the "it's all an illusion thing" there's really no reason to even have sonic forces happen because Eggman and a furry are having a fucking seizure on the ground because they touched a rock. If I remember right, additionally, it wasn't even the phantom ruby to begin with in forces, it was a blue gem.
15dcb7 No.15524598
>>15524575
Blue gem? Maybe in concept art or you're getting mixed up with something else? It was always a ruby in Forces when Infinite first showed up.
8ab59c No.15524601
Burning Rangers is the best sonic game
4decd9 No.15524608
>>15524598
Well obviously in concept art, maybe I worded that poorly, when I say
>it wasn't even the phantom ruby to begin with in forces
I'm not referring to a gemstone becoming the Phantom ruby in the process of the game, I'm referring to as a design, when the game was in development it was in fact, not the phantom ruby, and some period of time afterwards, probably after most of Mania was finished they made it the Phantom ruby.
7337dc No.15524620
>favorite game
Honestly not that big of a fan of sonic, the only game I have completed with him is Sonic adventure 1 which was pretty fun. didn't play the entire game though, just knuckles tails and sonics part.
>favorite character
Rouge.
>favorite OST
I wanted to say marble zone but the more I listen to that place the more I hate it. live and learn i guess.
>opinions on the cartoons/comics
none
>thoughts on the future of the series
As a sort of outsider looking in it seems pretty fucked in general. I am kinda surprised that they apparently sacked the entire team behind Generations which seems like a terrible idea, I liked generations despite not being a huge sonic fan.
Then again if i was in charge I would just make an entire game out of the knuckles and rouge levels in SA 1&2 for obvious reasons.
7337dc No.15524659
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Also I want to put my penis inside rouge and cum inside.
fea5da No.15524677
So this runs at 60FPS on real saturn hardware. That's really something.
118848 No.15524680
>>15524543
Those illusions seemed to be able hurt people.
It's either some bullshit about pulling/copying stuff from alt-realities, or the illusion is so believable it causes physical harm.
It can be a doozy if you can work out how to control it. Not that I'd want to see it again.
Also, by your logic that means all the Heavy Robo bosses are illusions as well?
>>15522804
After Mania- who knows? Either Sonic Team will may "lets take a chance on another fan". Then again, the 3D community has not been as strong as the 2D community. People even cheered when they saw Whitehalls name come up on the screen at that Sonic event. Who has been "prolific" in the 3D Sonic fan game scene? Or any indie/fan game that was fast?
Like you said yourself, they can make a cheap Sonic 3D for a cool million sales, then put effort in more Mania style games from now on.
Even a Shadow the Hedgehog game that tried to be more functional than the firstone would sell better than your average 3D Sonic nowadays due to the original's reputation and memes alone.
>>15524522
Right. What on earth could the focus even be?
Too fast and platforming has to be made easier. Too slow and it doesn't feel satisfying to pull off, so you may as well play an even slower game with tighter controls and more demanding platforming.
Sonic has been given a stomp and a double jump to make sure players can actually navigate, and them a boost to get him back up to speed. I'm half tempted to say the next thing we'll get is slow-mo to make it even easier to dodge and correct yourself mid-jump. Then tie it into boss battles for WOAH SO EPIC LIKE IN THE MOVIES moments for the kids/tards like dodging a "fast" attack that's heavily telegraphed.
I wouldn't mind some basic light/heavy combo attacks tbh. Not like Unleashed, but stuff where you execute fast attacks and do shit you usually only see in cutscenes and cartoons. Makes bosses a little more engaging than spamming the homing attack. Hell, let the player go into an air combo from a homing attack. But, it's all another slot on the mechanic roulette the 3D games do TBH.
9e0a89 No.15524685
>>15524620
>As a sort of outsider looking in it seems pretty fucked in general
I will say this: It's a hell of a lot more hopeful than it was when Sonic Boom or even 06 shit the bed, but without Mania there to soften the blow and hopefully piss off the Japs into doing better, well, we'd probably be looking at the very end.
4decd9 No.15524704
>>15524680
>It's either some bullshit about pulling/copying stuff from alt-realities, or the illusion is so believable it causes physical harm
They wrote in that the illusions are so real that you can get hurt. Which at that point, there's literally no reason for it to be an illusion but, you know, whatever, and actually the Phantom ruby being able to, well LITERALLY CONJURE MASS and AFFECT SPACE would actually fix some major plotholes in the game
>It can be a doozy if you can work out how to control it. Not that I'd want to see it again.
It absolutely could, but it would also be just absurdly broken, but even then they could give it an in universe reason for why it can't just be spammed indefinitely, horrible mutations, infinite actually turning into the eldritch tentacle monster from like halfway in the game.
>Also, by your logic that means all the Heavy Robo bosses are illusions as well?
Yes, yes they are. A giant waste of some decent robos that could have been added, but who knows, maybe they'll get bored and decide "Ok this actually happened lol"
30dcfd No.15524712
I have a challenge for you /v/:
>You are hired by Sonic Team to be the lead designer and programmer in a Sonic Metroidvania game. It must retain some of the major elements of both 2D Sonic games and 2D Metroidvanias.
How would you pull it off and make it good?
654d35 No.15524722
>>15524712
Sonic Pachinko, again.
4decd9 No.15524754
>>15524704
And to give you an idea I'm talking about these fuckers
118848 No.15524852
>>15524712
> Knuckles [Buzzword],
> Or find words ending in -ics or ic and change it to x like with Knuckles Chaotix.
> Epix/Heroix/Exotix/Frantix/Atomix (more robot focused game) /Lunatix (it's on the moon)
> Knuckles follows someone that's stolen the Master Emerald and taken it into a lost city kinda deal.
> City mysteriously has various biomes and what not due to crystal magic.
> Major antagonists (lets say moles) stole the ME for power, or just because they like shiny shit.
> Eggman & robots are trying to dig up the city and are secondary antagonists. (or primary while the moles come in at the last minute, w/e)
> Master Emerald shattered into X shards. To get the best ending, you find all the shards. The largest shards (lets call them Keystone Shards) are held by bosses.
> Knuckles can glide around, dig, and punch like in 2D games. Maybe even add an uppercut to add to some puzzles "move X object to Y", or just as a cool combat thing. You could make digging more complex maybe. You're underground for X second and can crawl around the dirt until it puts you back on the surface where you started. Like a slower version of the Drill Wisp in Colors or the Mole transformation in Yoshi's Island.
> Combat definitely needs to be more advanced if you want a true metroidvania. Basically, avoid the "hit X times to win" and have different ways to attack with different damage so you have different pros and cons to different kinds of attacks in different situations.
> Can unlock more abilities. Like the Air Necklace to never run out of air underwater, the ability to dig into harder surfaces, volleyball spike enemies while in mid-air onto other enemies, etc.
> Sonic appears as a boss, to reference how you often fight Knuckles. This time Sonic has been tricked into thinking Knuckles was tricked into attacking innocent moles or whatever.
> Maybe Nack, the Chaotix and/or Rouge appear as well, but TBH you probably want to avoid friends blathering on (you don't need an NPC to say "get 20 of this thing for me" or offer hints, but it can be in there if the kids need it). Most bosses and enemies should be monsters, moles, or Eggman robots. Rouge could be playable in a new game + kind of deal.
> If you have a boner for Adventure, have the final boss get Chaos/Water powers. Then you try and escape the lost city as it floods.
> Kill Penders and put an end to the Echidna lawsuit nonsense if you want to involve Knuckle's backstory more.
The worst part would be making sure a decent chunk of the game is above ground so you're not constantly underground. Then again its not an issue if the game is nice to look at.
f358e5 No.15524896
>>15524704
>Yes, yes they are.
They aren't. Encore mode shows as such. Even if Force's Ruby is purely illusions, Mania's Ruby is demonstrably different in its abilities. Maybe the rubies are actually different in each universe.
16df02 No.15524949
>>15520341
I just realized you haven't been allowed to play as someone who isn't sonic (or someone who plays exactly like him) since fucking Sonic and the Black Knight.
>>15524434
Don't the comics have some pozzed writer trying to make Sally a dyke with Nicole or am I remembering wrong?
09dd21 No.15524962
>favorite game
It's hard for me to pick I enjoy all of the mainline Sonic games up to and inducing 06 despite it's many flaws.
but in the end it would have to be Adventure 2
>favorite character
Shadow The edge lord himself, for better or for worse
>Favorite OST
I can't even decide, but right now i'm feeling 06, all never forget that orchestrated title theme
>thoughts on the future of the series
I don't even know anymore, there have been Sonic games i'v haven't been too keen on, I mean I probably would play Forces over Lost world if given the two options.
but fucking Chaos man… he was right there, focused on in the advertising, and nowhere to be seen during any gameplay, might as well have not even been in the game whatsoever,
I'v never felt this legitimately betrayed…
All I can do is Dream about how I would have had the climax of the game with a now good Perfect Chaos getting some payback for messing with his reputation and whipping out every single one of Infinites Replica Army.
9e0a89 No.15524969
>>15524949
>Don't the comics have some pozzed writer trying to make Sally a dyke with Nicole or am I remembering wrong?
Fynn on his twitter copped to making Princess fur bait gay for an AI bot, but archie lost the comic license before they could do anything more than it. Who knows what IDW is gonna do.
f358e5 No.15524975
>>15524949
>Don't the comics have some pozzed writer trying to make Sally a dyke with Nicole or am I remembering wrong?
You're remembering somewhat wrong, but somewhat right. The writer basically made a noncommittal "it's a reasonable interpretation of their relationship" reply to someone.
0413da No.15524987
>>15522878
>chris speaking out against bowsette degeneracy
It's nuChris so it's probably because of hedgehog spirits telling him it's bad or some dumb shit but at least it's better than him praising it.
9e0a89 No.15524988
>>15524975
>The writer basically made a noncommittal "it's a reasonable interpretation of their relationship" reply to someone.
More like "Aleah & I were amazed we got away with it being so blatant."
http://archive.is/T97UR
15dcb7 No.15525006
>>15524896
There was something about the ruby Eggman used in Forces as being the "real" one, with the others used, even Infinite's, were weaker prototypes.
>>15524896
Technically Shadow was playable in Forves. This is excluding spin-off/sub-series games like Boom, 4, Mania, etc where you could play as other characters.
f358e5 No.15525021
055e58 No.15526119
>>15524620
What's Rouge's milk taste like?
386a69 No.15526196
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>>15524543
>Phantom
>illusions
>player character
I've played MGSV too much.
2bb46d No.15526736
eb5443 No.15527114
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Someone successfully ported the cutscenes from Adventure 2 (Dreamcast) into a prototype build that has debug tools, allowing for full camera control and other neat shit.
(The first 15 minutes explains the process; everything after that is comedy gold)
ca890a No.15527511
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>>15516621
Forces' story was clearly the result of Sega finally hearing Adventurefags or people who just actually understood the story of the pre-Adventure games saying they wanted Sonic to have a story again. But instead of actually immersing themselves in the old works and finding out why anyone likes them, they just glimpsed at how the internet thinks of them, which is as all the DeviantArt edgy webcomics that they inspired. But of course that's just because the series was aimed at 12 year olds, and the 12 year olds didn't have the skill to replicate what was an actually good story that wasn't written by 12 year olds. Nu-Sonic Team copied the 12 year olds copying old Sonic Team, instead of just copying old Sonic Team directly.
>>15518465
The song that plays during the final cutscene of Sonic 2, when Tails saves Sonic as he falls from the Death Egg, is a 16-bit rendition of an actual song. A romantic duet. Sonic & Tails have always been gay.
>>15522793
The sheer autism of the fanbase is the only reason anything of worth has come from the franchise in over a decade. The comics are good now (and have been for quite a while) because fans managed to work their way to writing and drawing it. And I shouldn't need to explain Sonic Mania.
>>15523217
Sonic Adventure and the sequels up to '06 actually tried to replicate the 2D movement in 3D, and I'd say it worked reasonably well. Sonic Adventure 2 has Green Hill Zone Act 1 faithfully recreated into 3D, and it works very well because the movement is actually very similar. Sonic Adventure 2 also places heavy emphasis on points that are earned by things like combos and tricks, which I think, though not in the old games, makes a lot of sense for Sonic, and made the game a hell of a lot more fun. You could ignore all that and beat the story regardless, but learning that system and getting A Ranks (and tons of good unlockables) was great.
f81b39 No.15527548
>>15527511
>not getting all the Chaos Emeralds and saving yourself
Pleb
ca890a No.15527669
>>15524467
This. Sonic '06 scared them so bad they threw the baby out with the bathwater. They had a good basic gameplay system that was a good adaptation of the 2D gameplay, while also doing stories that were actually reasonably close to the stories of the original games but people who love being shit on by (((localizers))) didn't realize it, but '06 was an alpha prototype, which means we have to completely get rid of the gameplay and story and replace it with what casuals who never played the games think they were. GOTTA GO FAST. NO STORY ALLOWED. So now we get Boost Sonic, pretty much a mediocre single player racing game instead of a platformer, and we're supposed to pretend the earlier 3D games weren't any good even though everyone loved them when they were released on Dreamcast, and it was only when they were rereleased (and partially downgraded) on Gamecube that some Nintenyearolds started complaining because it wasn't like what they thought Sonic was like given the cartoons they saw, which were all based on localizations anyway. And those games still sold like hotcakes. But fuck it, GOTTA GO FAST.
That said, while I liked the Knuckles/Eggman stages from Adventure 2, I also wouldn't miss them if they were all replaced with Sonic stages instead in a sequel.
>>15524533
>>15524543
The Phantom Ruby makes illusions but ALSO has the power to legitimately warp space and time. Probably because they didn't think it through hard enough and couldn't give enough of a shit to pay attention to "details." But there you go.
>>15524949
>I just realized you haven't been allowed to play as someone who isn't sonic (or someone who plays exactly like him) since fucking Sonic and the Black Knight.
Sonic '06 was bad. It wasn't bad because it was an alpha prototype that wasn't even close to finished. It was bad because it had multiple playable characters. I'll bet good money that the reason Sonic the Werehog even exists is so they could use that gameplay style and still try to justify it as being Sonic and not a separate character. I'm willing to bet it was originally supposed to be Chip or as he probably was called earlier in development, Ristar who had stretchy arms and beat people up. But they got scared of having anyone but Sonic playable so they made Chip an NPC.
>>15527548
Tails goes to save Sonic anyway, just turns out he didn't need to.
436b6c No.15527828
>>15527511
I agree on all of your other points, but
>Hurr durr, close male friendships are all secretly founded on homosexuality, and this licensed pop song without its lyrics proves it.
Yeah, and Sonic 3 was about how they feel like a Stranger in Moscow.
15dcb7 No.15527830
>>15527669
>Ristar
I remember there was a PR person who went "who?" in response to people bringing up a rumor that Fang/Nack would be in the game to hunt the werehog. NuSonic Team probably also copied God Of War from the getgo for the sake of padding instead of dredging up obscure past works of theirs pre-NiGHTS, which again, was made by separate staff members of an older Sonic Team. Similarly to how they denied taking any influence from X-Treme for Lost World since the team barring the most senior members have barely heard of it.
458427 No.15527834
>>15527828
>Yeah, and Sonic 3 was about how they feel like a Stranger in Moscow.
Nice one
ca890a No.15527838
>>15524677
So this guy really beat Project AXSX to the punch, then? Because I was following that for years, and to see this guy come out of nowhere is really something.
ca890a No.15527848
>>15527828
I never felt that Sonic 3 song really sounded like Stranger in Moscow, but Icecap Zone is totally about Hard Times.
>>15527830
PR people never know shit. And it doesn't take everyone to know what the genesis of an idea was. Only one person early on.
436b6c No.15527881
>>15527848
>Icecap Zone is totally about Hard Times.
>If I could have all the women in the world
>I would take this time to leave
ARCTIC HOMOS CONFIRMED
9e0a89 No.15527929
>>15527669
>Muh Localization
Why should anyone give a shit about the fanfiction the japs added to the later jap release
4decd9 No.15527955
>>15527511
Tails was also a girl for a very long time in development. You wanna talk about that?
ca890a No.15527958
>>15527955
I've heard this for decades but never seen proof. Is there any proof?
fea5da No.15527960
>>15527838
Yeah. It's got a lot of features and it's got 3D enemy and player models and above all it looks great and runs fast. Like, very fast. The saturn isn't exactly a power house of a console but there's a lot of little tricks you can do to pull off little techniques the system can't normally or easily do, and it'll work well, and you can do dozens of these little things for single digit framerate improvements all over the place, resulting in a solid 30 or in the case of Z-Treme, 60. That is really impressive. It's still clearly WIP and not a good game or anything, but like this is just a year of development by a single guy with a little help and guidance from some other people but nothing really hands on.
It's just really cool. The fact it's using an engine anyone can use too is really something.
4decd9 No.15527962
>>15527958
Can you read japanese?
ca890a No.15527968
>>15527962
The autists on Sonic Retro can. You're telling me you have proof even they don't know about? You should tell them.
4decd9 No.15527975
>>15527968
I'm pretty sure it was mentioned on their Sonic 2 page then. Who knows though, maybe some faggot found out about it and got triggered over the concept of a heterosexual relationship and memory holed it.
ca890a No.15527987
>>15527975
Is there much evidence of Sonic Retro being pozzed? They seem like top tier autists who let absolutely nothing get in the way of their sheer autism. These guys are so good they've rediscovered lost games that are fucking popcorn machines, recreated cancelled games from screenshots and demos seen in the background of VHS recordings of Canadian kids' shows from the mid'90s, and have effectively taken over the actual franchise they were autistic for. It would take real effort to poz them.
4decd9 No.15527994
>>15527987
It just takes one bacteria to slip past detection.
a8d895 No.15528051
f358e5 No.15528058
>>15527955
>>15527962
>>15527975
>Tails was a girl. Trust me, my clear and infallible memory says it was mentioned on this one page that doesn't mention it. It must have been memory-holed.
436b6c No.15528063
>>15527958
I was curious about that too, since I've heard it repeated so many times, so I checked, but couldn't find anything.
>>15527975
Sonic Retro is a wiki, which saves every change to every page. I haven't found any mention in past revisions.
http://info.sonicretro.org/index.php?title=Sonic_the_Hedgehog_2_(16-bit)&action=history
http://info.sonicretro.org/index.php?title=Miles_%22Tails%22_Prower&action=history
15dcb7 No.15528102
>>15527848
True, but my point still stands for the Lost World comparison in which they did not intentionally bring back parts of X-Treme as a reference/throwback to it. My point is, the newbies at Sonic Team were more likely inspired by contemporary influences at the time when making the werehog rather than starting it out as a tribute to Ristar, as further evidenced here:
http://archive.is/560yM#selection-429.0-481.456
http://archive.is/4bOBH#selection-1599.249-1599.571
http://archive.is/Z4Hu7#selection-1217.0-1255.263
4decd9 No.15528121
>>15528063
>>15528058
I will absolutely admit this is a mistake, maybe I am mixing this up with something else
ca890a No.15528141
>>15528102
My theory is that they were influenced by things like God of War to do that type of game in the first place, and inspired a Ristar revival, most likely as an independent game. But then Sega wouldn't have confidence in a Ristar game, so they throw Sonic in there, like how Microsoft didn't have confidence in Banjo Kazooie so they threw them into RC Pro Am. Then they got scared of even having Sonic share the gameplay with another character, even if it was Ristar, so they made it The Werehog, and the non-playable remnants of Ristar evolved into Chip, who is also a tiny little cute thing who is actually the embodiment of a celestial body.
I have no evidence whatsoever, but I'm still wholly convinced.
5b3c3b No.15528165
>>15527942
Really a name difference isn't an argument nor is it a defense for the shitty nip lore when the nip name you are referencing is itself shit.
e779aa No.15528170
>>15524987
Chris knows more than the rest of us about bowsette. One day the portal will open and we'll all be taken to C-197.
15dcb7 No.15528184
>>15527955
That was pretty much confirmed as just headcanon since Tails was changed into a girl for the spanish version of Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog, but, use of Sweet Dreams in Sonic 2's ending aside, Tails was always meant to be a boy. I think his creator sad something about that for the 25th birthday of his creation. I'll try to find it.
>>15527987
A couple users there are antiGG, one being the homo female admin Scarred Sun, and the other TimmiT, who fellates the gaming journo press and figures like Rami Ismail and Patrick Klepek Bonus: Mania animators Tyson Hesse and his wife Mariel/Kinucakes also either shat on GG in the case of the former, and the latter being chummy with Wu/Flynt at a time.
ca890a No.15528199
>>15528165
The argument is that the games were made with the American story in mind. That argument is patently false. The games themselves use Japanese elements, and do not use American elements. The closest you get in the old games is Doctor Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, one of many localizations of Puyo Puyo (Kirby's Avalanche is better anyway), and Sonic the Fighters, an obscure arcade game that spells Robotnik's name wrong. I'll take Sonic 2 as a reference above those.
7aebaf No.15528274
If it wasn't for deviantart, Sonic would probably be more popular.
Just think of the countless people who refuse to even play a Sonic game for fear of being lumped in with the autism and degeneracy.
4a4aa7 No.15528345
>>15524562
I'm happy they retconned it, Sonic Forces was a mess. Like it was trying to be Adventure 3, but failed on all fronts. Gameplay was a step down from Generations, Level Design was a mess, story was this weird hybrid of Disney SatAM shit and edgy Sonic 06 shit, Music was a HUGE step down from even Lost World and Colors, 2D Sonic was even more scripted than in Generations. Hell the only good parts were the PC graphics, and even then the PC version did so poorly because of the denuvo shit. The main issue is that Sonic Team doesn't know what the fuck to do with Sonic, I think it's time we got a new team to basically redo what they did with the original adventure and remake 2D Sonic into the 3D space. It says a fuckload when a small team of Sonic fans not only make your best game in 15 years, but completely out do you when it comes to sales. Hell even fan games like Sonic Islands and Sonic Utopia are looking like better Sonic games than anything Sonic Team has put out in years.
436b6c No.15528348
>>15528121
We all get tricked by misinformation and misconceptions sometimes, Anon.
>>15528274
But at the same time, if it wasn't for DeviantArt, Sonic would be in the ground. Little to nothing after SA2 would exist, 06 would have killed anything that remained, and the franchise would be deader than Mega Man. Most normalfags had no idea what a furry was before 07, so there was no major stigma for normalfags to attach to Sonic in the era most likely to have killed it. A timeline without DA is a timeline where Sonic dies before normalfags can know enough to make the association and avoid it.
4a4aa7 No.15528352
>>15528199
Well before Unleashed, the Sonic series was basically a shonen anime when it comes to story.
4a4aa7 No.15528383
>>15528348
Yeah, that's the main issue. Sonic is really only alive because of the OC generated by the community. Sonic Team can't do this series Justice, and SEGA probably thinks that giving a mainline Sonic game to another team is extremely risky. It's why BOOM was made, although things may change with the success of Sonic Mania. Hell Izuka even said that "we can figure out the direction of future titles after seeing the reaction to Sonic Mania in the marketplace". I think the next Sonic game will be an Adventure game, especially with all this hype around the old games. I just hope it's story is written by Shiro Maekawa rather than Makoto Goya or whoever wrote Forces story.
5b3c3b No.15528390
>>15528199
You will take Sonic 2? What do you mean by that? The original barebones lore or the shit that came later to expand upon it and be treated like it was all part of the plan? Sorry, but I really hate this shit where what millions of fans grew up with doesn't count because you got a newer version years later that greatly expanded on the japanese lore with entirely different writers who fagged it all up with the adventure titles. I could be open to the japanese lore pre-adventure, but you faggots want to make it all one package even though it became batshit retarded by the adventure titles. Sonic was better with a simple plot and a focus on gameplay. Not dozens of characters and cutscenes.
6a1a38 No.15528743
>>15528390
>Sonic was better with a simple plot and a focus on gameplay
Yeah, because Lost World and Forces are so great.
9e0a89 No.15528761
>>15528743
>Yeah, because Lost World and Forces are so great.
>Forces
>Focus on gameplay
Never before has sonic ever been closer to having a game that plays itself, yet you want me and everyone else to believe that they really put effort into the gameplay.
7aebaf No.15528775
>>15528348
>deader than Mega Man
Yeah about that.
Not countering your argument or anything, you might be right.
f358e5 No.15528803
>>15528390
>Not dozens of characters
Yeah, I remember the good times, when the cast only consisted of Sonic, Eggman, Amy, Metal Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Fang, Bean, Bark, Mighty, Ray, Espio, Vector, Charmy, Heavy, and Bomb, featuring special appearances by Tails Doll and Metal Knuckles.
9a1da2 No.15528813
stop arguing about gay shit and post rouge tits
aa3b4e No.15528815
>>15528743
Lost World's not so bad.
5cd5d9 No.15529580
>>15522804
Hey if someone was down to make a viable sonic adventure (1) engine in UE4 or something, i'd be down to develop for 3D assets and learn level design. I've figured these past few years that sonic adventure was a starting point for something good.
Of course sonic team has always been incompetent so naturally adventure 2 just took whatever had potential in 1 and made it worse.
I don't think a single fully 3d sonic fan project has ever made it past 5-7 months worth of development, they always die when the potential starts to show. I'd love to make a full fledged sonic adventure sequel with improved physics and tighter level design made for speedrunning/figuring out alternate ways to finish. That's one of the biggest pros to sonic's levels in adventure 1. Figuring out autistic ways to break the level design through spindash.
f1d82c No.15532845
>>15528815
Lost World is a mediocre game, but initially it's fun. You only realize that after you beat one or two bosses and no real new gimmicks com up other than the fact that Sonic moves on a cylindrical plane instead of a flat one.
0f14cb No.15532993
>>15528743
I think all the games 1999 and onward were varying kinds of shit.
>>15528803
>half the characters listed were in single spinoff games outside of the main entries and in such where only 3-4 characters would appear in said spinoff.
You adventure fags are hilarious.
0413da No.15533033
4f16b0 No.15533089
>>15524282
Can confirm. I played the earlier releases and they casualized the final game a lot.
there was a lot of small changes that they made with each build that made the game easier.
>changing the way you build special meter from having to build up momentum and keep it for a while to build meter along with collecting shit to fill it. Later builds made it to where the meter builds slowly by itself. Final build has the meter fill in seconds.
>Characters used to have weight on slopes and momentum actually mattered , unlike in the final build where it's Sonic 4 tier.
>Made enemies easier.
>Shittier soundtrack than the initial builds.
Those are just the things I remember off the top of my head as I don't have the earlier builds of the game as I've long since deleted them and I didn't think it would be important to keep it and I had only a 250 HDD at the time.
000000 No.15533210
>>15516432
>I hope the Mania sequel is all original content
There isn't going to be a Mania 2. Takashi Iizuka clearly sees it as a one off project from his statements. The devs and artists all have bright future careers without waiting on SEGA and its shit Team Sonic to ask for another game from them. Whitehead did an interview saying he wants to make a 3D game. You can bet after such a success someone want to give him money to do that.
9e0a89 No.15533638
>>15528813
>/fur/fag is angry
This was a good thread.
>>15528803
>Anyone remembering characters from some Japanese exclusive Arcade games.
Desperate, your turn.
>>15533210
>Takashi Iizuka clearly sees it as a one off project from his statements.
>Christian Whitehead moved on to work on Freedom Planet 2
>Headcanon is making it's own game engine
>Pagoda West Games website has been "Hacked By Mc'Sl0vv" and their social media hasn't been active since feburary 2nd
Sonic is fucking done and SEGA has once again shot themselves in the fucking foot. How you could just let something like that go would normally be mind boggling, but this is the company that abandoned their massive library of IPs just to peddle Sonic, Fatlus, Yakuza and a bunch of old genesis roms over and over again.
b93c87 No.15541532
>>15527114
Thanks for the OC, champ
NOW DUMPING BRUCE
Just kidding Juicy Boi, don't ban me pls
b93c87 No.15541542
That eggman image should have the caption "Then there's THIS faggot"
b93c87 No.15541559
Gonna make .gifs or .webms of some parts that don't work as static images.
b93c87 No.15541579
Some of these are golden.
b93c87 No.15541593
First two images I'm gonna make a .gif of for sure, had me rolling.
Also, heil.
65b448 No.15541621
>>15541598
Maybe Tails should put it in him
b93c87 No.15541623
"Get a load of this guy, carl"
Also, loss?
b93c87 No.15541636
One more post left.
Eggman looks so fucking to me, he's like a crushed jew roach with a strong will to live.
b93c87 No.15541646
Doesn't shadow look like spergfox in this shot?
3a8f5c No.15543523
Do the Nips actually give a shit about Sonic at all? It seems to me like the series appeals much more to westerners.
b93c87 No.15543529
>>15543523
You are correct.
a94924 No.15543635
>>15519766
I want to give her the headpats!
a3982a No.15543648
>>15543523
Most nips have a low tolerance for fast motion. That's why they prefer slow paced RPGs.
9e0a89 No.15543654
>>15543523
>Do the Nips actually give a shit about Sonic at all?
No. God no. Why they keep publishing the games there is a mystery, especially when it seems like SEGA goes out of it's way to do so.
>It seems to me like the series appeals much more to westerners.
That was the point all along. That's why Japs get the game anywhere between 2 days and 3 years later than the Americans.
4decd9 No.15543663
Here's something really fucking stupid I kind of want.
Make the barrel from Sonic 3 the antagonist of the next game