c20960 No.15439507
Over Half of The 211.2 Million Video Gamers in The U.S. Play Games Across Multiple Platforms, According to NPD
>67% of Americans age 2 and up play games. This is a total of 211.2 million game playing Americans.
>90% play on mobile, 52% on PC, and 43% on console. These are percentages of the 67% of Americans playing games, not of the total US population.
>To be clear, PC includes stuff like Facebook or browser gaming.
>Handhelds are down to 9%, but I think NPD counts the Switch as a console, so I'm not sure how much longer that stat will be relevant.
>59% of gamers play on both mobile and (PC and/or console).
>41% of gamers play on only one device type (mobile, console, or PC).
>For people who play games, it tends to take up 16% of their leisure time, which turns out to 12 hours a week on average.
>For comparison, internet browsing is 18%, listening to music is 15%, and social media is 13%.
>Active gamers (the group studied) were counted as anyone who played games within the month of June 2018, were age 2 or higher, and had access to one of the devices mentioned (mobile, PC, or console).
https://www.npd.com/wps/portal/npd/us/news/press-releases/2018/over-half-of-the-211-2-million-video-gamers-in-the-u-s--play-games-across-multiple-platforms--according-to-npd/
Thoughts? Just another attempt to fuck the stats by including females and casuals playing on their phones?
edc0e6 No.15439511
>90% play on mobile
>Just another attempt to fuck the stats by including females and casuals playing on their phones?
Don't ask dumb rhetorical questions.
c20960 No.15439515
>>15439511
>rhetorical questions
1248b4 No.15439517
>>15439507
Just because I play some shitty mobile game while sitting on the bus doesn't mean I'm "video gaming on multiple platforms".
c20960 No.15439523
>>15439517
Out of interest would you say the same thing if it were ~10 years ago and you were using a handheld?
dc8b02 No.15439540
>>15439523
Handheld=Dedicated hardware for video games =/=mobile=hardware that incidentally can play games
Playing solitaire at work does not make you a gamer
c20960 No.15439543
>>15439540
Most mobiles nowadays can run pretty much any classic handheld game you care to name along with a lot of older PC games. I do agree that playing casual shit is different but if you're sitting down playing say nethack that's clearly actually gaming.
d4ef79 No.15439546
>>15439507
>NPD
Sieg Heil xD
9b6a49 No.15439547
>>15439523
>Out of interest would you say the same thing if it were ~10 years ago and you were using a handheld?
Probably not, because handheld game systems have only one primary task - and that is to play video games. It stands to reason that if you own one, then you have an interest in mobile gaming. On the other hand, a phone is a utilitarian device that nearly everyone has for a multitude of tasks. Only one of which, and far from it's primary, being games. So it stands to reason that one could play games on a phone to kill time, but that's not the reason they purchased the phone or indicates any special interest in games.
ce9f48 No.15439548
mobile gaming dwarfs pc and consoles tho
sadly the next gen of 8 9 10+ will be all multiplat llike fortnite is now
b7efa5 No.15439552
>>15439515
What's your problem with rhetorical questions?
Asking for a friend
c20960 No.15439556
>>15439548
I blame the chinks.
1aabac No.15439557
>>15439507
Reminder that every time industry treats mobile games seriously, something like pic related happens
1248b4 No.15439560
>>15439557
I die a little more every time I remember this
160df7 No.15439571
>>15439507
>52% on PC, and 43% on console.
>These are percentages of the 67% of Americans playing games, not of the total US population.
The only percentages that matter to be frank.
9b6a49 No.15439574
>>15439548
They'll all be multiplat because that's where the money is, and because publishers have brow-beat hardware manufacturers into adopting only a few core hardware standards to reduce development costs across platforms. For the same reasons, crossplay (and maybe even the death of paid multiplayer networks) is going to become standard. As games become more and more "services" - the drive to increase player retention is going to concentrate most players around only a handful of currently popular titles that they have invested significant time (grind) and money (lootboxes/mtx) into. Everything else will fail spectacularly like Battleborn/Evolve. To minimize that risk, developers are going to push to consolidate playerbases rather than allow them to be fragmented by platforms and paywalls. We're already seeing that now with the push towards mtx and the willingness of some platform owners to allow multiplayer outside of their paywall for free-to-play titles.
If consoles don't go entirely streaming the generation after next - then their multiplayer paywalls will certainly be dismantled in favor of other services like GamePass/PSNow.
9b6a49 No.15439582
>>15439560
The sad thing is, they probably will make significantly more on that C&C mobile shit than they would with a proper C&C sequel for PC.
dc8b02 No.15439591
>>15439543
Mobile games are games made to be played on a mobile phone, whereas a classic handheld game was made to be played on dedicated handheld hardware.
If a person is playing classic handheld games via emulator on on a mobile phone then they may count as a gamer, but these studies never make a distinction of what kind of games are being played, only the hardware, while there might have been people who participated in the study who were using their phone to play actual games, we cannot tell if that is the case and how many of them were part of the study.
As you yourself have just said, there is a difference between people who play nethack on a phone and people who play balloon pop on a phone, which would indicate, assuming you do have suffer from some sort of cognitive dissonance, ought to be well aware of the glaring fault in this study.
ce9f48 No.15439600
>>15439574
>They'll all be multiplat because that's where the money is
THATs because mobile phones have been on par with consoles for a long time, tegra and similar console/pc class gpus/soc have been available on mobile for the past 2-4 years hence why its been so insanely profitable the hardware finally caught up and is "good enough" for idiot normalfags to play for a hour or so a day while shitting on the toilet or taking a unpaid lunch break so the dont go postal
3e05fc No.15439611
>>15439591
Don't forget the ports of some older games like GTA, FF, Kotor and Sonic are on mobile. Seeing these numbers, it's very weird for Sonic 3&K and Mania to not yet be ported to mobile. Mania just requires 2 buttons and a d pad.
4fef01 No.15439613
>90% play on mobile
So 190M of that 211M aren't gamers.
Shame they don't split the Facebook crowd on PC so we can see how much to take away from that.
f2afd8 No.15439618
BULLSHIT
PHONE GAMES ARE NOT GAMES
FUCK OFF
4fef01 No.15439632
Calling people who play games on mobile gamers is like calling people who read baby popup books a book fan.
The term gamer is honestly butchered at this point, we need a new word for actual fans of videogames.
dc8b02 No.15439647
>>15439574
>If consoles don't go entirely streaming
>implying the internet infrastructure exists for that
Internet providers overstate what they are selling to their customers, this is why neighborhoods that are dominated by 1 ISP can experience slow down during peak hours because everyone is trying to access the internet.
Additionally most people use 2.4 GHz wifi which is know to experience interference from other internet users and the fact that cutting down of that interference requires coordination between customers in different households doesn't bode well for the game streaming business model.
Not only that, but a shit load of people in college play video games and college internet infrastructures would not be able to handle the increase in usage if everyone who played console games suddenly needed to use the schools wifi for it. I know my college had set up a dedicated gaming wifi network, but it was still prone to slowdown even though most of the people using it were probably using it for overwatch.
>implying people can afford the real costs of game streaming services
Truth is that people would have to upgrade to more expensive plans with their ISPs, that wouldn't necessarily be able to provide what they are paying for, in addition to having to pay for the subscription services, in addition to possibly getting new duel band routers and 5GHz receivers, and buy the consoles that are used for the streaming service, in addition to paying the monthly fees for the for the streaming service. This is way too much for most people to afford in this economy despite the fact that it may be recovering, and the economy is likely going to shit itself once the trump tariffs are removed in 2 years by whoever wins the next election.
Anyone who thinks game streaming services are viable is a retard.
>>15439611
IIRC Sega lost the source code for the original sonic genesis games, the good ports, that were made by the guy who would later be hired to work on Sonic Mania, were lovingly crafted recreations of the original games physics.
68750b No.15439671
5034ca No.15439738
>90% play on mobile
Mobile trash doesn't even count as vidya.
86ce96 No.15439822
>>15439507
All games are lumped under one umbrella category, be they time consuming strategy games, or time-wasting color-matching puzzles. How do these statistics tell anybody anything when they don't separate demographics and types of games? Of course the stat for mobile is going to be that high if they factor anyone who has spent 3 minutes playing chess on their phone while waiting for a bus this past June. It's also going to drag average play time way down.
This could be fucking stats to prove some thesis about profitability of phone games or it could be just pure cluelessness. Marketers love to do sleazy things and then play dumb, though.
ce9f48 No.15439857
THE instant humor like this became problematic and social media killed any banter is the reason gaming culture has gone to politically correct sjw shit
040b1e No.15439912
>>15439738
>i don't like it so it doesn't qualify as vidya
Why don't you tip your fedora off from here back to reddit, cuck
5034ca No.15439919
>>15439912
Mobile trash is objectively not vidya, kike. Why don't you go eat a foreskin?
bf8848 No.15439929
mobile and social media games aren't real games
9aecc7 No.15439964
>>15439511
Fuck me is ESPN going to be hosting Candy Crush World League Her-nament?
9ac7d9 No.15441623
>>15439919
It's officially vidya as per mark.
9ac7d9 No.15441637
>>15439618
>>15439613
>>15439738
>>15439929
Again, mobile games are games even if you don't like them.
86ce96 No.15441699
>>15439912
>buzzword
>buzzword
>buzzword
>buzzword
faf29b No.15441720
>>15439507
>Active gamers (the group studied) were counted as anyone who played games within the month of June 2018, were age 2 or higher, and had access to one of the devices mentioned (mobile, PC, or console).
I want to know what kind of two year olds were filling out their survey. Alternatively, how they collected data on two year olds in violation of COPPA.
3d5353 No.15441738
>>15439507
Video games are your soma if you play for more than 5 hours a day.
7ad86e No.15441742
I bet those retards would consider using a phone to keep track of scores for a mahjong game played IRL as mobile gaming. Also they really should be taken to court for gathering data on children as young as 2.
84c97e No.15441813
Kikes datamining children so they know exactly how to pull in the cattle for easy shekels. What marketing kikes call "games" and what an actual enthusiast calls games are completely different things.
9b6a49 No.15441920
>>15439647
It won't happen next gen, but in a decade? A lot is going to depend on how robust the rollout of 5G and TV White Space solutions are. There's no way they're going to invest the kind of money needed to upgrade the old phone lines and lay new fiber necessary to bring internet up to par in those areas that don't already have it… but wireless technologies can be installed for pennies on the dollar comparatively. For everyone else who is either unserviced or underserviced - they're just going to be shit out of luck. You really think Netflix stresses over the handful of rural customers who can't get internet better than 56k? Fuck no… and neither will Sony or Microsoft. Or Steam for that matter, if rumors are true that Proton is intended to allow windows games to run on Linux servers for streaming.
It doesn't matter that internet infrastructure is not capable of handling game streaming. [[[They]]] aren't going to be dissuaded from that goal of having absolute control of software access. If it means cutting off 20% of their market, they'll gladly do it to get total control of the 80% who live in major population centers under their thumbs.
98279f No.15441931
>>15441920
Any way you put it, the kikes win. They always do. Cloud gaming is an inevitability and any autist that says anything different is fooling himself.
9b6a49 No.15442040
>>15441985
And even if you do live in those areas, or an area where streaming works, the problem of input lag is intractable, which makes entire genres of games non-viable as they currently are. Games will have to be dumbed down to account for the input lag, and you'll see design shifts in other genres comparable to what has happened to FPS games since they became popular on consoles and were forced to have their design altered to accommodate controllers.
3e714e No.15442059
>>15442054
>>15441985
Your ban still hasn't expired blackpillfag.
3e714e No.15442087
>>15442075
Ban evasion is still against the rules blackpillfag.
ba9d16 No.15442091
3e714e No.15442117
>>15442112
Samefagging is pretty fucking gay blackpillfag.
8a4b78 No.15442135
>There are more PC gamers in America then Console gamers
Americans confirmed superior taste tbh
3e714e No.15442159
>>15442147
>>15442155
>He's still samefagging
3e714e No.15442173
>>15442168
Stop pretending to be someone else blackpillfag.
3e714e No.15442401
>>15442254
>>15442393
>He's still samefagging
86ce96 No.15442450
>>15442401
I really can't tell who is worse, you or the faggot who keeps resetting his modem to argue with you. The entire thread is derailed by your slap fest and you're both spergs, great going.
3e714e No.15442459
>>15442450
Anon, this thread wouldn't have been derailed in the first place if the blackpillfag hadn't posted.
7b3c8e No.15442460
86ce96 No.15442481
>>15442459
Well I also replied to his original bait, so I can't fault you for that. But you're the only one still humoring him.
457543 No.15442526
>>15442075
Cloud computing is a ridiculous meme that only got off the ground because of constant shilling from (((Jewgle))), (((Micro$hit))), and (((Amazon))). It's only as big as it is for the same reason. Cloud computing is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If you store data on the cloud you're, quite literally, cucking yourself.
3e714e No.15442534
>>15442481
I don't care if it's bait at this point, even if no one takes his bait he'll just keep posting the same stupid shit.
4ad31b No.15442559
>>15442526
>disparaging nicknames for Google and MS, but not Amazon
Shamazon, anon.
0fd473 No.15442566
>>15439507
>Facebook counts as a game.
Wut.
3e714e No.15442573
>>15442566
>Mobile games count as games
457543 No.15442593
>>15442559
My lack of creativity amazes even me.
242b78 No.15443651
>>15442526
>five eyes
The Eternal Anglo strikes again.
6d5ad8 No.15444006
>>15439507
>90% play on mobile
Counting free shit to waste time waiting for someone or not? I have some old rhythm games on my mobile that I seldom play to pass time. If it counts then it is just stat manipulation to trick (((investors))) and shit.
80055d No.15444162
>>15441637
Popup books count as books, we should include them in book studies and try to influence the book industry to cater to this audience.
84810c No.15444181
If I use my phone to run an emulator to play GBA games, am I a mobile gamer, or a handheld gamer?
522df2 No.15444189
>>15444181
Hard core professional e-sports gamer
b11c93 No.15444352
>>15439557
Hey! It's fart sniffing simulator.
3948df No.15444362
I play some mobile games myself. Gachapon is the future. I don't have to pay shit and much more enjoyable than shitty console games these days. You can play mobile everywhere too and playing online isn't paid like consoles. We just need more r18 games.
46280e No.15444384
>>15444362
>We just need more r18 games.
after all, what are touch screens for?
f8b29c No.15444424
>'Its a mustards still think they are the majority and act shocked that once again it turns out they are not' episode
46280e No.15444665
>>15444580
i would like her to secure my missile site
3f26e3 No.15444763
>>15439857
He is just pretending i hope.
868300 No.15444772
>>15439857
>no timestamp on capture
Nigger confirmed
9de31f No.15444775
>>15439857
Cripes, I don't know why I've only just now seen this pic. That's amazing.
66e675 No.15445001
>>15439857
I wonder how it tastes.
a9071f No.15445046
>>15442566
Facebook is literally gamified social interaction though. It's why it's so addictive to weak willed faggots.
000000 No.15445433
>>15439507
Numbers mean nothing. Quality is what matters.
5c0b04 No.15445466
>>15445433
>quality is what matters
>uses tor
c9968b No.15445595
>>15445001
It’s a bunch of dust and skin cells and bacteria. What do you think it would taste like?
66e675 No.15445647
9ac7d9 No.15459330
>>15449979
Your point is?
>>15445595
Dust itself is mostly skin cells.
8fa4db No.15462750
>90% play on mobile
>90%
>NINETY MOTHERFUCKING CUNTSUCKING PERCENT
It's time to burn this country to the ground.
8a4b78 No.15462759
>>15462750
90 percent on mobile and 52 percent on PC, there's a lot of overlap there retard. I don't play mobileshit myself but I can see where people would consider themselves mobile gaming when it literally takes 0 effort to just whip out a phone on the metro on the way to work
1d4ce4 No.15472995
>>15462750
Pretty much everyone has a smartphone though.
c20960 No.15473413
>>15445466
Not all tor users are pedos.
e9f970 No.15473883
>>15473413
Sure, some are hebe as well.
b65735 No.15473911
>>15439540
This. I programmed Black Jack onto a Ti-83+ calculator during class back in the day. Yet nobody would claim that playing Black Jack on my calculator was gaming or ask "what other platforms do you play games on?" It shouldn't be acceptable for phones.
Until the day they include a side note on how many people are playing what poorly coded games on what graphing calculator, the article is nothing more than a marketing tool by mobile developers. When they do include that information, we've gone too far.
0412a6 No.15473924
>>15462753
>killed so brutally his balls receded in for a few seconds
37b612 No.15474816
>>15462753
What a little faggot.
ba9d16 No.15475205
>>15445001
>>15445595
Salty coins and milk
58360f No.15475666
>people still get mad about "we gamers"
f7a727 No.15475868
>>15439857
I will never look at Blood Angels the same way again after this…
94ce69 No.15475934
If I made a mobile game with micro-transactions, would I then be exploiting women?
9ac7d9 No.15476912
863eef No.15477264
>>15439964
Nah, it won't happen.
43cf7d No.15477268
083126 No.15477587
>>15439857
>all these fags that haven't seen this before
do you think he really does?
71287d No.15478196
93bdda No.15483677
>>15439507
>Americans
What are the stats for white people?
690a9e No.15493367
>all these boomers who don't play mobile games
37b612 No.15498479
>>15475390
Mobile C&C game that got announced at E3.
000000 No.15498519
>211.2 Million Video Gamers
>90% play on mobile
>To be clear, PC includes stuff like Facebook or browser gaming.
DER EWIGE NORMALFAG
65205e No.15498536
>>15483677
Reported for paid shilling.
415093 No.15498552
>>15439557
>CC
That's not a mobile Command and Conquer game is it? god please tell me I'm just being an autist
4726d9 No.15498554
000000 No.15498558
>>15493367
>unironic mobage shilling
>cuckchan maymay
How could you let this happen to this board, Mark? These plebs infest our realms like so many orcs and goblins whom should be rightfully immediately slain.
1d4ce4 No.15499273
>>15498558
>torpedo talking to anyone else about quality
1d4ce4 No.15499275
6c26a8 No.15499312
>>15493367
>mobile games
There are no mobile games, just skinner boxes
c20960 No.15499696
>>15499312
All video games are skinner boxes at some level.
b17277 No.15499919
I play gacha on mobile. Console suck so hard these days and mmorpgs on PC are dead.
b830bc No.15500155
>>15439507
>90% play on mobile
Then they're not playing video games.
>Handhelds are down to 9%, but I think NPD counts the Switch as a console, so I'm not sure how much longer that stat will be relevant.
Because the Switch isn't a handheld.
e9f970 No.15512501
>>15500155
Mobile games are still video games.
976a04 No.15512695
>>15439547
>a phone is a utilitarian device that nearly everyone has for a multitude of tasks. Only one of which, and far from it's primary, being games.
You could say the exact same thing for PCs though. The vast majority of people who own one didn't explicitly buy them for gaming. However, we don't count PC gaming as only people who explicitly bought/built their PC for gaming. Hell, I chose my laptop based on its ability to run AutoCAD and portability, and its ability to run games was only incidental in the end. Does this mean that when I run PSO2 or NieR: Automata on that laptop I'm not truly gaming? It's infuriating to recognize, but mobile gaming is still gaming, even if it's casualshit.
37b612 No.15513226
>>15512695
>However, we don't count PC gaming as only people who explicitly bought/built their PC for gaming
To be fair if we did ASSFAGGOTS would be a dead genre.
a9a30a No.15513321
>>15512695
but seriously WHICH mobile games? this anime gachashit, what's it called, fate or some cancer? What the fug do you even do there
b830bc No.15513414
>>15512501
Only in the loosest most liberal definition of the term. If we include kusoge like gachashit, MMOs, sandbox shit, etc. as video games, the term basically loses any real meaning.
1d4ce4 No.15513934
>>15512695
>Does this mean that when I run PSO2 or NieR: Automata on that laptop I'm not truly gaming?
What retard plays on a laptop.
0df9e9 No.15513956
>I am no longer part of the core gamer demographic
I can't believe this. What a shocker.
976a04 No.15514035
>>15513934
You don't ever get bored in class, in the office, or before a meeting?
36affd No.15514191
>>15514035
I'm neet so no.
0df9e9 No.15514202
>>15514035
Have some self-control you fucking manchild.
c20960 No.15514529
>>15514035
Are you 12? What faggot plays games while he's on the clock.
29feb2 No.15514586
>>15439857
>all those newfags
wew
15cb15 No.15526062
Remember when phones were meant for calling?
b600f5 No.15526166
b600f5 No.15526179
>>15499696
And so they are all the same right faggot
e9f970 No.15530443
>>15526062
Most of /v/ is too young to even remember when they were mostly for texting.
90dd07 No.15530460
These statistics don't mean anything at all because they include browser/facebook shit in the PC market share, and the phone market share is almost entirely browser/facebook/gacha apps. There's no way to differentiate the statistics like this.
31a0b5 No.15530607
I play games both on PC and phone (mainly Clash Royale), and they are totally different beasts. I play PC as a hobby, as pretty much everyone else here; it's how I choose to spend some quality free time. I play on my phone to kill time, when I'm in the train commuting or taking a particularly long dump at the toilet. I do not sit down, in the tranquillity of my home, to play mobile games; they're just a time killer. I think mobile games, for their very nature, should not be consider games at all. It's like saying comics are books, in the same category as novels and essays. Mobile games and proper games are different media and they should be treated as such. Hopefully, the "industry" will realise how separate they are sooner than later. Putting them both together in the same statistics, based on the fact that they are both interactive media, is heavily distorting those statistics, just like putting radio and TV consumption together just because they are both passive media.
*And now you're all free to shit on me for daring to download mobile games*
31a0b5 No.15530615
>>15530607
And I miss-formated the spoiler. I'll go die in shame.
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1d4ce4 No.15533431
>>15526062
Remember when mobile phones didn't exist?
edd51c No.15533459
>consoul war thread
I own a Switch, PS4, PS3, PS2, & a gaming PC
>>>/cuckchan/
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9ac7d9 No.15539081