07c92e No.15249123
Grand Strategy Games
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>>>/sengoku/1
>Where do mods go and other info?
https://pastebin.com/dTCRqZuN
>Anon's Edits (EU4, CK2 and V2)
https://pastebin.com/VZumvXiR
This Day in History, August 4th
>1578 A crusade against the Moors of Morocco is routed at the Battle of Alcazar-el-Kebir. King Sebastian of Portugal and 8,000 of his soldiers are killed.
>1789 The Constituent Assembly in France abolishes the privileges of nobility.
>1879 A law is passed in Germany making Alsace Lorraine a territory of the empire.
>1914 Germany invades Belgium. Great Britain declares war on Germany.
>1944 A tip from a Dutch informer leads the Gestapo to a sealed-off area in an Amsterdam warehouse, where they find and arrest Jewish diarist Anne Frank, her family, and four others.
>1971 The U.S. launches the first satellite into lunar orbit from a manned spacecraft (Apollo 15).
>1988 The US Senate votes to give each Japanese-American who was interned during WWII $20,000 compensation and an apology.
>2007 NASA launches the Phoenix spacecraft on a mission to Mars.
59c19f No.15249284
>>15249123
First for death upon all t*rks.
f32323 No.15249302
a218ae No.15249360
>>15249284
Speaking of dead roaches, it seems the Hellenic Empire/Greece rework in Anon's edits introduced a decision for restoring the Byzantine borders, but it needs the claim on Rome decision to be taken. The claim on Rome is entirely commented out in the text file and also requires the claim on South Italy to be taken, but the South Italy one requires the Byzantine Borders decision. I'm assuming this is an error of some sort since not being able to take the Byzantine borders decision also prevents the Vassalize/Intergrate Serbia and Montenegro events and other claim events.
a218ae No.15249368
>>15249360
My bad, it isn't the vassalize/intergrate Serbia and Montenegro decisions. It's the other Claim X decisions that rely on the Byz borders, including the western Balkans one. So it might not actually be a typo if the whole Justinian/Makedon borders were meant to be ignored.
59c19f No.15249472
>>15249360
>>15249368
Fuck, I won't be able to fix that error for a few days. Thanks for noticing.
How come I keep leaving stupid typos and not noticing until like 2-3 weeks later?
2dd002 No.15249685
>>15249284
I think we can all agree on this.
834662 No.15250155
>>15249472
Because you are a shit modder :-)
nothing personnel
50c7df No.15250402
To that guy who was trying to hook me up with Elder Kings for version 2.7.2 of crusader kings: apparently I specifically need the complete SVN build before the 2.7.0 patch you gave me, the patch only works on the SVN build.
0a697a No.15252244
>>15250402
From what I read I'm not sure if it's possible to get older SVN builds.
One that worked with the patch is version 1027, the current build is 1972.
Aside from the 0.2 and the 0.2.1 releases I can't see any other official releases.
I can download or point you to the current SVN but that one will certainly not work with CK2 2.7.2
471c72 No.15252704
Which victoria 2 mod has the best Japanese experience? Preferably something where I don't have to be afk for the first 60 years.
Last time I played nihon was in CWE. It was ok but I didn't find a way to restore the status of the emperor or anything neat like that.
50c7df No.15253781
>>15252244 (Check'd)
Thanks for the help anyway. I'm actually amazed it isn't more widely available online. The mod is pretty popular and 2.7.2 is the most updated pirated version.
c2c5e3 No.15254002
Just became the Spanish Raj and ate all of Britains colonies while dismantling the rest of their empire. Germany and I are the top dogs in Europe. Feels pretty good.
2dd002 No.15254039
>>15254002
>Spanish Raj
What?
0a697a No.15254057
>>15253781
>most updated pirated version
what do you mean with that?
I'm pretty sure I've seen 2.8.3.2
c2c5e3 No.15254101
>>15254039
British Raj was the rule of the British over India, now I as Spain rule over India.
2dd002 No.15254152
>>15254101
>now I as Spain rule over India.
As a spaniard i find that utterly disgusting.
50c7df No.15254429
>>15254057
>Checks
So… basically TPB is a joke now?
59c19f No.15254439
>>15254002
CACA EN EL INODORO
f3cee0 No.15254649
>>15254152
>As a spaniard i find that utterly disgusting.
At least the Brit didn't create a whole race of disgusting half breed. If Spain had control over India who know what kind of monsters they could have made this time.
7f6c95 No.15255603
>>15254002
>Still hasn't conquered Portugal
7f6c95 No.15255606
>>15254649
That's terrifying to imagine. What would poo-Spaniard halfbreeds look like?
f51111 No.15255618
>>15254002
poo favor envía tetas
0a697a No.15255651
>>15254429
Hasn't it been that for a while now?
Take a look in the Op's archive
ff5320 No.15255665
>>15255606
>What would poo-Spaniard halfbreeds look like?
They would look like shit.
d322b0 No.15255669
>>15254002
You can do worse
7f6c95 No.15255686
>>15255669
Why does HoI4 suffer from such atrocious border gore? I Have yet to see a single campaign with a historically plausible outcome.
0a697a No.15255779
>>15255686
I think it is because of how a few things interact together.
States are made up of multiple provinces.
In a peace conference every winner receives points depending on war contribution.
It is only possible to change government, liberate, puppet or annex a nation take some states.
States have an associated cost which is payed with war score depending on war contribution and only whole states can be chosen not single provinces.
There is nothing else to spend the war score on aside from territories.
The peace conference AI is pants on head retarded and doesn't care about where the states it takes are located even if that means they can not supply the area.
It is possible that the cost for states is lower for the current occupying nation, which can be worse considering the way occupier is chosen is beyond comprehension
As an example: Germany attacks France trough Italy.
I see two issues, states become occupied by Italy because Germany moves trough their territory making those cheaper for them or states where Germany arrives first become occupied by them leaving you with a green/black polka dot France.
As if all that wasn't enough everyone, I repeat everyone, who fought against a nation or faction sits at the peace table.
Which wouldn't be terrible if not every state is open for grabs by everyone if they can pay the price.
Meaning: If Mexico invades an Allies US and the Axis defeat the Allies, as long as Denmark joined the Allies and Mexico has the points they could take Kopenhagen and if nothing else is left the AI fucking will.
2dd002 No.15255801
>>15254649
Say what you will about hispanic america, but atleast they dont shit on the streets nor are the dump of the world.
d322b0 No.15255865
>>15255779
>>15255686
Which by the way is really stupid, since even assuming a complete capitulation of the country, there's no way in hell that the invaders can keep the entire place pacified after the war, so instead of having actual war score that reflects what you've done through the war you get these situations where the AI will just try and annex any state neighboring its territories with no relation to whether they're useful land or not. Another horrible thing of this system is that, in multiplayer, it allows two players to basically pass their turn to accumulate their war score indefinitely, so you can get situations where, like the other anon said, Germany pushes through Italy into France and maybe let's assume that Belgium goes fascist and attacks it also, capitulating the country, now Belgium and Italy get the highest war score because it technically was them that conquered the victory points despite the Germans doing all the work, two live players can just take all the war score and annex the entirety of France and the German player can't do shit about it.
Also Warscore only takes into account your losses compared to the enemy's and territorial occupation, so let's say you try and just play a support role via sending your entire navy and army, which also nets you a lot of casualties, the game though doesn't keep track of them, only of ground units, meaning that you could easily beat Japan as America but then some sneaky Chink could get to mainland Japan earlier than you and claim more shit.
But HoI4 is only for memes and casual multiplayer.
d98f6e No.15255898
>>15255779
>>15255865
I expect parajews to make some expensive DLC to mitigate this in the future and fail miserably
080773 No.15256039
>>15254002
Imagine a Spaniard/Dravidian mongrel race.
080773 No.15256047
>>15255801
>nor are the dump of the world
b18e98 No.15256048
>>15255669
Hungary STAHP. I also thought that the new decisions to create puppets would fix this issue but apparently not, I'm assuming this was AI Hitler, if so that would explain why this happened.
The decisions let you puppet chunks of Russia without peace conference, good for preventing those annoying bordergore issues.
e66feb No.15256051
>>15249284
Not until Bannerlord comes out.
b18e98 No.15256054
>>15256051
<Bannerlord never ever because muh e-sports
080773 No.15256055
>>15256051
>Wanting to exterminate turks
>While playing a game made by turks
e66feb No.15256057
>>15256055
Make the devs and their families honorary allies and let them make expansions and sequels to the game in peace.
d322b0 No.15256058
>>15255898
No they just release more bloat like taking the decision of converting to Islam mid war or something
e66feb No.15256064
>>15256060
Hopefully never. CA are more greedy and incompetent than Paracuck even.
7f6c95 No.15256633
>>15256571
>>15256337
>>15256291
>>15256290
>>15256286
>>15256284
>>15256282
>>15256186
>>15256155
>>15256137
>>15256125
>>15256099
>>15256074
What is happening?
2dd002 No.15256656
>>15256047
You dont see hispanic america being the huge garbage can that india is.
e66feb No.15256711
>>15256656
India is a literal shithole, South America is a garbage dump and Africa is a black hole.
2dd002 No.15256730
>>15256711
>South America is a garbage dump
You guys really think all of south america is just a huge favela with monkeys dont you?
e66feb No.15256750
>>15256730
No, just most of it.
2dd002 No.15256774
>>15256750
> just most of it.
Not at all, infact, most of it is rural or completely uninhabited.
The major cities have favelas because population grew rapidly in the 20th century and the goverments still dont have the resources to deal with so many people in capitals, and theres nothing to do in the rural countryside so they are stuck there while cities slowly expand their infastructure to deal with the population.
If you see any pictures of the cities during the early 20th century or late 19th century, you will see they look mostly colonial.
The perception you guys have of hispanic america is that of brazilian movies (when brazil isnt even a hispanic country) and of the central americans the reach the US ilegally, so the worst of the bunch.
0e2f1b No.15256820
>>15256633
it's obvious there's been a huge influex of TORpedos, cuckchanners, redditors, and the like, this past week.
2e4ed6 No.15257592
>the persian empire was conquered by a gay manlet fake greek
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF IRANIANS
ea14da No.15257598
>>15257592
Nice projection you've got there.
d98f6e No.15257608
>>15257592
>falling for the gay meme
The guy had three wives a a couple kids. He got more pussy than you will in your entire life
a11f9d No.15257669
>>15256633
What was deleted?
b4ea2c No.15257720
>>15256774
Fair enough, my view of South America was colored by the fact that Mexico has a southern wall. I assumed anything bad enough to make Mexico want it out was Africa-tier.
c90650 No.15257753
>>15257669
Guy on a rampage about China.
462882 No.15257758
>>15257592
Macedonia WAS a Hellenic nation ethnically indistinguishable from Greece.
d98f6e No.15257836
>>15257720
>I assumed anything bad enough to make Mexico want it out was Africa-tier.
It is. It's called Central America.
834662 No.15257864
>>15257720
They can't tho, its downright impossible to pass the Darién Gap.
84ee43 No.15257879
ea14da No.15257972
>>15257879
>manlet
Considering that he was the son of a King with the best food available and in times when average height for a man was less than 170 cm I'd say he was higher than average.
1f851f No.15258058
>>15255669
>>15255686
>not just hiding in the faction viewer to avoid the border gore
d322b0 No.15258260
>>15257592
if I may interject, Alexander was a great man, but he also had his father's great diplomatic skills to thank for setting him up with the best possible outcome
also he could only conquer but his kingdom died out like the instant he did too
c50686 No.15258363
>>15255898
They are going to change it in CK2.
When your ruler dies all provinces that are inland (or overseas within a certain distance), not conected to your capital and not part of the De Jure titles you hold will be seized by local warlords or become independent if hold by vassals.
Not sure if they have something in mind for HOI4 but since the bordergore in it is almost as bad as it is in CK2 theyll probably do something.
c2c5e3 No.15259413
>>15255603
I could have formed Iberia since this is HPM and I have them sphered, but Iberia seems too ahistorical for my tastes.
2dd002 No.15259496
>>15257879
Everyone was a manlet back then.
>>15258363
How will that affect byzantine italy and mediterran islands then?
>>15257720
Really though, latin america gets a lot of bad rep for mexico, and most of the migrants arent even mexicans to begin with but central americans, that are the equivalent of the balkans.
59c19f No.15259779
>>15259413
> but Iberia seems too ahistorical for my tastes.
Not that ahistorical since Portugal and Spain had an actual union under the Habsburgs around the 1600's
a11f9d No.15260848
>>15257753
What's wrong with that? I mean fuck China, they're the jews of Asia.
5ca453 No.15261005
>>15259496
If those lands are part of the De Jure Byzantine Empire then they are fine. If not they are fucked but it all depends on a distance from your closest De Jure county I think.
1efedc No.15261055
>>15261005
In the old gods start, the byzantines hold mallorca and sardinia.
3dfe38 No.15261121
>>15259413
Make it Celtic and drive out the spics
c50686 No.15261866
>>15259496
>How will that affect byzantine italy and mediterran islands then?
Since southern Italy is De Jure Byzantine land it wont affect it (they are seashore provinces so the naval path will apply to them too), the islands depend on how harsh you set the game rule at the start but they must be connected by a naval path of less than 1000 units to your territory.
I believe this change aims to deal a BIG nerf to hordes (finally) since they can expand like the cancers they are but once the khan is dead it will fragment very fast and very hard, mimicking real life nomads.
Also it will be harder to hold crusader states, especially Jerusalem for far away kingdoms.
bfa01e No.15262754
>>15256730
Yes. That and a few tribals living in mud huts.
bfa01e No.15262759
>>15257592
There are still hill tribes in the Iranian and Afghan mountains that sing songs about how Alexander was the devil.
d98f6e No.15263227
>>15262754
And seas full of garbage with niglets swimming in it all
7f6c95 No.15263271
>>15262754
>what is Uruguay
>what is Argentina
>what is Chile
>what is south Brazil
59c19f No.15263307
>>15263271
3rd world shitholes who fell prey to the socialist meme way too many times.
526172 No.15263316
>>15263307
>Chile
>falling prey to the socialist meme
229a46 No.15263374
>>15263316
With something akin to 55% of population being self-reported White and the remaining 45% being various shades of brown Chile doesn't really have much time left before it becomes Brazil 2.0.
1efedc No.15263400
>>15263374
Keep moving those goalposts anon, surely that will show him that youre right.
3aeae1 No.15263414
>>15263227
>Haiti is in South America
Common Core, everyone.
02d6ec No.15263516
>>15257592
>die
>your amazing empire immediately disappears
Great work Alex
1efedc No.15263555
>>15263516
It was an ugly blob anyway.
7f6c95 No.15263568
>>15263374
Chile has never been majority white, but they do admittedly love LARPing as white. Them being brown hasn't prevented them from maintaining a semi-decent, economically successful nation though. Most Chileans who identify as white are mostly mixed.
02d6ec No.15263592
>>15263555
Might have been cool if he'd got around to conquering Arabia before popping his clogs. Speaking of which it's funny how people knew you could reach India from the Red Sea since time immemorial yet nobody got around to conquering that great desert blob in the middle.
a27d5d No.15263605
>>15263592
Who sane would want to conquer such big pile of sand?
1efedc No.15263609
>>15263592
Anon, before oil, there was literally nothing there, arabs only gaine money because they traded with india and then sold that on the mediterrean.
c6cb7e No.15263615
>>15263568
LARPing as Germans, no less. I wonder how many of them play Victoria 2.
ecb57c No.15263626
>>15263592
Would've been even more interesting if he had also marched along the coast of North Africa all the way to Morocco. Carthage would've been wrecked a century before the Second Punic War. The madman might've even invaded Italy once he was done with that.
1efedc No.15263725
>>15263615
Thats because their army was drilled by germans, aswell as other countries in south america.
South americans have a hard-on for germany and france.
f3cee0 No.15263739
>>15263626
>The madman might've even invaded Italy once he was done with that
He wouldn't have gone anywhere in the west. Rome was already a thing and they had no problem invading Macedonia while they were still using the same tactics and formations as Alexander.
59c19f No.15264940
>>15263749
>Kriegs unt cazuelas
kek
d98f6e No.15266077
>everyone talking about Alexander and Rome
>"Lol, Cyrus the Elder? Who was that?"
I yearn for a game set prior to the Achaemenid Empire, if only to learn more about the period, but GSGs seem to never go earlier than Philip of Macedon
fb1195 No.15266498
>>15266077
There's a great series on Persia on Hardcore History if you wanna get your Persh on.
1efedc No.15267327
>>15266077
Imperius universalis is for you then, you can form persia, rule as babylon , form china and such.
3d2c70 No.15272146
>>15267327
>>15266077
Seconding this, though there's a few problems with it.
- Slavery is broken and will either do nothing or lock you into a negative modifier that causes constant slave revolts.
- Once garrisons/whatever they're called become available, you'll see an ocean of no-upkeep forts in every mid-sized power, making wars into atrocious slogs.
- Sacking cities is worthless unless you have slavery (which is broken), so you're better off just using the events as an infinite prestige farm.
The dev also briefly bailed on the mod when Imperator was announced, but he came back when people pointed out his mod will probably be the superior product.
If you want a challenge though, try to get Persia's historic borders at the end of Cyrus' life. Even with all the claims and beefed up CBs, it's pretty rough. Though I guess it would be pretty busted to just let you integrate all of Babylon with minimal effort, even if that's what more or less happened in reality.
65e6db No.15275687
>Germany
>Byzantium
>Prussia
>Japan
>Vikings
>Kekistan
7f6c95 No.15275955
>>15275687
Vikings are undoubtedly the most Reddit tier faction one can pick. Japan is a close second.
930be7 No.15275961
>>15275687
God forbid actually playing as the good guys.
7f6c95 No.15275977
>>15275961
>Viking savages
>The good guys
930be7 No.15276005
>>15275977
Vicucks and kekistanis are obviously not included.
0e2f1b No.15276172
>>15276005
Vikings weren't savages, and they were good guys overall. they founded many cities that stand to this day, for example dublin.
>>15275687
as far as EU4 goes yes i know, babby's first gsg, it's still fun to me byzantium and japan are a helluva lotta fun. a free-for-all almost, on japan between all the daimyos. prussia is kind of overdone, and forming it isn't even difficult tho, so it's not as fun as some of the more challenging starts.
7f6c95 No.15276381
>>15276172
>and they were good guys overall
Britain had the best scholars in the entirety of western Europe until the vikings burned all monasteries and the libraries within in Northumbria and Elsewhere, raping and slaughtering every monk in sight. British intellectuals were so renowned, in fact, that they were in high demand by the kings of Francia, who granted them the highest bureaucratic positions available. Ireland was the only region in western Europe where ancient Greek texts were circulated, which inspired some of the greatest early medieval philosophers. The Viking invasion put an abrupt end to Britain's flourishing intellectual life, so much so that later British scholars were not fluent enough in latin to comprehend the works of their predecessors. The Vikings single handedly destroyed western Europe's greatest intellectual center, plunging it into a dark age that would not be lifted until the 1600s.
65e6db No.15276578
>>15276381
this is all true, and it can be applied to the middle east and the levant as well during the islamic golden age; if it wasn't for those shit eating steppe faggots it could have preserved its beauty..
f51111 No.15276735
a39c56 No.15276805
>>15276381
>>15276578
Mongols and Norse did nothing wrong. Unbathed cowards deserve slavery.
7b0aa1 No.15276861
>>15276805
Shoo shoo Sven Sveninson son of Sven.
65e6db No.15277022
>Mongols and Norse did nothing wrong. Unbathed cowards deserve slavery
a39c56 No.15277182
>>15277022
>the islamic golden age; if it wasn't for those shit eating steppe faggots it could have preserved its beauty
65e6db No.15277262
>vikings are SO FUCKING BASED I wish I could pillage christcuck monasteries too. Just imagine how much girls will dig a VIKING SEARAIDER, too bad I get bullied at school, black dudes call me a faggot -_-
526172 No.15277322
>>15276578
>islamic golden age
You're stinking up our thread muzzie
3d3cd7 No.15277433
>>15276805
this tbh
the weak deserve bullying
1efedc No.15277457
>>15277182
>>15277322
It is true though, muslim hate aside, apart from the byzantines and the chinese, they were the only people to actually write down things of the time and develop things that we know off, everyone else was too busy being barbarians or being in the middle of the great clusterfuck that was the early middle ages.
>>15277433
Anon, they just raided unprotected bvillages and monasteries, they rarely faced actual soldiers and when they did they would get fucked.
fd4d05 No.15277474
>>15277433
>get entire army defeated by a bunch of starving peasants on a 2 week march from southern end of the country
who is the weak one here?
3d3cd7 No.15277481
>>15277457
Guess those monks should have put down the books long enough to hit the gym, eh?
1efedc No.15277496
>>15277481
Anon, thats the equivalent of men at arms from france going to norway to pillage farmers and rape their women while the soldiers where on campaign.
Also, bakas get no loot.
75f2a0 No.15277634
I wish CA wasn't so fucking terrible these days so that the latest TW would be playable and enjoyable after all this Vikang talk
protip: it's so casualized I couldn't play a pirated version for more than an hour
d98f6e No.15277784
>loot and raid because stealing is easier than hard work
>only ever target monasteries and unprotected villages unless at great numerical advantage
>get their asses kicked whenever they meet an actually trained force
>glorify their shittery centuries afterwards as some sort of glorious thing rather than just murder and theft from civilian populace
No matter how you look at it, vikings were the niggers of medieval Europe
1efedc No.15277788
>>15277784
Even worse, because atleast mali traded in gold at the time and aksum (modern day ethiopia) fought muslims constantly in the name of jesus.
75f2a0 No.15277802
Can anyone tell me what happened to the Himyarite kingdom in Yemen?
Were they truly some of G-d's own (((chosen people?)))
d98f6e No.15277827
>>15277802
It's quite possible. Small jewish kingdoms were fairly common in pre-islamic Arabia, which is why Quran mentions them so often.
7f6c95 No.15277936
>>15277496
>rape their women
It has been recorded that Vikings had no qualms about raping monks and male peasants either.
429028 No.15278233
>>15277634
Why anyone plays anything past Medieval 2 is beyond me. Just play a viking mod, Im sure theres like 20.
a39c56 No.15278236
>>15277784
>>15277457
They were the last people conquer England and Russia, and did so permanently despite being assimilated.
>>15277936
We're not interested in your fantasies faggot.
0e2f1b No.15278245
>>15277262
>i know so little about norse society and culture that i assume all norsemen were vikings and the civilization consisted of nothing but pillaging
>calling niggers "black dudes"
go kill yourself.
7f6c95 No.15278270
>>15278236
Conquest is a horrible measure of cultural integrity. Were the Soviets superior to the Nazis? Were the Turks superior to the Byzantines? The overarching spirit of Viking civilization was degenerate and vile, fit only for despotic conquest devoid of any civil qualities.
>fantasies
Homosexuality was quite prevalent in pre-Christian Scandinavian societies. Unlike the Germans, who had taken an active stance against it long before their Christianization, the Nords reveled in it. Gesta Danorum, a 13th century chronicle of Danish history, suggests that Freyr was worshipped by a group of effeminate/homosexual priests. I also recall reading a poem that has Thor crossdressing. While there is evidence to suggest that passive homosexuality was frowned upon, though not nearly as much as it was frowned upon among the Germans, active homosexuality was deemed perfectly normal.
c90650 No.15278294
>>15278270
>passive homosexuality was frowned upon
>active homosexuality was deemed perfectly normal
>be gay or fuck off
Wow, Sweden really hasn't changed much has it?
7f6c95 No.15278300
>>15278294
Active/passive with regard to penentration. It was quite shameful to be the one getting fucked, in simpler terms, but it was generally acceptable to be the one doing the fucking.
1efedc No.15278310
>>15278300
So the greco-roman rules.
Its interesting how widespread that attitude towards sexuality was before christianity blobbed all over the world.
7f6c95 No.15278463
>>15278310
Pre-Christian Germans were intolerant towards homosexuality in all its forms, as were the Jews.
>Its interesting how widespread that attitude towards sexuality was before christianity blobbed all over the world.
Paganism is in essence the worship of primeval instinct, so it should come as no surprise that it embraces the basest desires of man. Polygyny, either in the form of polygamy or concubinage, and homosexuality, usually in the form of pederasty/traps, can be found across all pagan civilizations. Ephebophilic bisexuality was pretty much normal for almost every pagan society there has ever been, including India, China, Japan and Persia, with some notable exceptions.
I would argue that Christianity's greatest innovation has been its effort to curtail instinct and force mankind against what it is programmed by nature to crave, but this is just my subjective opinion on the matter. No other religion has fought nature as relentlessly as Christianity, and that is precisely what makes it so magnificent. It is no coincidence that the notion of original sin is as prominent as it is in Christian doctrine, as it essentially acknowledges that mankind's core is corrupt and decadent, and mankind is doomed to a perpetual state of absolute depravity by extension. Salvation is only attainable through the grace and sacrifice of god, a force outside of humanity, because humanity is intrinsically abominable and irredeemable.
Whereas nature exalts strength and pitilessly punishes weakness, Christianity exalts weakness and elevates its protection to the highest form of virtue. Whereas nature exalts sex and fertility, Christianity exalts celibacy and abstinence as the ideal mode of being. The institutions enforced by Christianity, most prominently monogamous marriage, are directly contrary to the social conduct our species has evolved to naturally uphold. What this means, practically, is that Christianity is also the most oppressive and unnatural of all religions. As its influence over the masses wanes, so do its institutions, as their oppressive nature renders them unsustainable without constant brainwashing, and so we regress to a pagan state. It should be fairly easy to draw parallels between the social mores of ancient Rome and those of the Liberal west, the similarities are quite striking.
Nietzsche has written extensively on the unnatural essence of Christianity, though his conclusions were quite different. He declares Islam noble as an expression of savage masculine instinct, and Christianity the ultimate evil as the greatest adversary of life and nature.
1efedc No.15278496
>>15278463
>Christianity exalts weakness and elevates its protection to the highest form of virtue
Not even weakness, but control.
For example, one of jesus followers pulled out a sword and cut the ear of one of the jews that wanted to imprison him, his followers could and would fight for him, so could jesus, but he told them to stop and healed the man, thats not weakness, thats self-control and self-sacrifice.
3fd4f8 No.15278614
>>15278463
>Islam noble
Was Nietzsche brain damaged?
7f6c95 No.15278619
>>15278614
He wrote the antichrist right before he got brain damaged, so you may be onto something.
db8563 No.15278651
>>15278614
Period illiteracy as to Islam's true nature is also a likely candidate if fisher king madness isn't the cause. Something something 'muh golden age,' something something 'prosperity during the dark ages,' something something 'mysterious east.' A better transmission of Sufist exotericism rather than proper Islamic eso & exotericism is also a potential culprit. Sometime past the renaissance, people who aren't directly bordering the Muslim realms stop understanding the nature of incessant war with them and their sheer backwardness.
Hence how you can have Churchill the mischling puppet of the City of London despise Islam virulently though he remains a slave to its bloody-handed antecedents, and have Hitler & Himmler table talking (allegedly) about how they could've had a Germanified Islam instead of slavish Christianity had the French failed against the Caliphate, with only the vagueries of 'Islam rebuffed the crusades,' 'Islam is fanatical,' and 'Islam is militant' to work with in delivering them to this shoddy conclusion, and not the rest of the rotten mess.
With only the meagerest slice of the complete picture, men of mild orientalist interest would- and do- go Islamaboo and whatever else in the vacuum of any true religion, latching onto an object of false yearning attempting to fulfill the religion of their own hearts. And so these persons, who could not tolerate contemporary empty Christianity, but who did not push through to actuate their own pure feelings for one reason or another, have created embarrassments in posterity that nevertheless do little if anything to stain their legacy, knowing their ignorance.
23b083 No.15278657
>>15278463
>as were the Jews.
Which is funny considering jews are 10X more likely to be gay than any other race.
59c19f No.15278797
>>15278270
Odin would also drink the semen of hanged men to gain their powers. It's pretty fucking gay.
3839f3 No.15278843
>>15275687
how come that thing doesn't have a chin?
59c19f No.15278846
>>15278843
He kinda looks like egoraptor but with a SEVERE lack of chins.
3839f3 No.15278861
>>15278846
maybe arin stole leafy's chin to add to his chin collection?
979536 No.15278971
>>15278463
>mankind is doomed to a perpetual state of absolute depravity
the protestant reformation and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
c6cb7e No.15279054
>>15278463
>No other religion has fought nature as relentlessly as Christianity
To the eternal celebration of the urbanite, nature-hating jew.
65e6db No.15279093
>>calling niggers "black dudes"
d98f6e No.15279155
>>15278651
It's not exactly surprising, anon. Christianity as a religion is, sadly, an empty shell at this point. Almost nobody but the clergy has knowledge of it past the superficial, and the clergy (in both the catholic church and the many protestant and reformed branches) push a very docile and humanist interpretation of the Bible and of world history. It's funny, but in that it perfectly aligns with the political left which seeks to exploit man's weakness – you're weak? Good. Join the collective and together we will be strong. Of course, the left will still attack Christianity despite having fully subverted it, due to the desire to be the only ideology brainwashing the people. A right-wing person, who values individual strength and wishes to excell himself rather than be a cog in the leftist machine, thus cannot find much solace in Christianity, and so he compares it to the other religions he knows. He wants one that is strong, that doesn't consider weakness a virtue, that promotes strength and punishes decadence, and Islam seems to fit the bill – the thing's chock-full of things about jihad and conquest through strenght, it tells you to stone whores to death and throw faggots off the roof. It's very appealing in that regard, since he doesn't actually know much about Islam thanks to it being such a clusterfuck with a gorillion sects and schools that all teach something different. He might think he'll just read the Quran and get the idea, but the funny truth is that Quran alone isn't going to tell you jack shit about the practical implementation of Islam in muslim countries – all that crap is in the hadiths, with basically every school having a different opinion on which ones are valid and which ones are not.
The western civilization desperately needs a better religion, either through the revival of Christianity (maybe an import of Orthodoxy? Orthodoxy doesn't seem to be nearly as subverted) or through a formation of an entirely new religion. The wish to revive paganism is understandable, but doomed to fail – those religions all died out for a reason, and if one were to believe a being like Thor actually exists, he is bound to ask "well why did he let all his worshippers either die or convert away, if he's supposed to be some grand warrior and shit? Either he doesn't exist or he's powerless."
b5f9cd No.15279159
>>15278496
That's just your interpretation. For me it screams of weakness and submissiveness. I guess Justin Trudeau would be a model Christian then. He exhibits all the self-control and self-sacrifice in the world. After all, if you kill your enemies, they win.
0348f0 No.15279173
Would Rome 2 with the Divide Et Impera mod count as Grand Strategy?
f51111 No.15279205
>>15279093
Go back to cuckchan you Moldavian chinlet
75f2a0 No.15279224
>>15279173
I think it's RTT
b5f9cd No.15279231
>>15279155
I live in a country with a substantial Orthodox population and the Orthodox priesthood wants exactly the same thing like any other Christian group. All they care about is enriching themselves and getting new adherents no matter their race or ethnicity. In the end, most Orthodox countries spent the last couple of decades under the yoke of communism and thus the clergy was purged and replaced with self-serving buffoons, Jew-lovers and bleeding heart liberals. You don't have to look far. Patriarch Kirill is very supportive of the current Russian regime bringing tens of thousands of unwashed savages from Central Asia into Russia each year and sees no problem with them mixing with the natives. The Greek Orthodox Church sold their last possession in the Holy Land to the Jews for peanuts and is very active in helping the rapefugees to get into Greece. Patriarch Irinej is a civic nationalists at best and cucks for EU whenever he can. Aside from his correct stance regarding Kosovo and faggotry he can't help himself and has to accommodate as many invaders as possible from the Thrid World coming into Serbia as well. Not to mention what the various Orthodox groups do in America. Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A., Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada, Ukrainian Orthodox Church in America are all heavily involved in helping to stop the ICE and shield those godly spics and niggers coming there illegally from prosecution. At this point Christianity is no longer refromable. Most Christians nowadays aren't even White to begin with. Christianity is quickly becoming a faith of niggers, gooks and spics. With the massive birthrates of Africa and Christian charities working day and night trying to feed and clothes niggers living there and preventing any population control measures from being implemented most Christians by the end of this century will be black. Christianity is a dead weight that is now pulling us down into oblivion of racial mixing and massive, uncontrollable immigration. The faster we distance ourselves from this shitshow, the better.
52a725 No.15279258
>>15249123
>be humble slav fucking your 3 slutty wives and praising Perun all day
>in civil war against tatar bulgarian ruler
>get your slavic boipussy decimated by stronk turkic horse-lovers
>chad serbian, orthodox peasant leader rises
>sends clopper army back to tyrnovo with their tails between their hooves
>also crushes gayreek byzabitch army
>lose war against blond haired, brawny, temperate chad without even raising a single levy
>get assimilated by new chad state
>chad lets you keep your states
>ends all wars and forces weak b*zantine and tengri slave to sign peace treaties
>state colored bright pink because fuck neutral colors
>Marry your youngest daughter to chad because superior genes
>chad dies 5 years later fighting off two empires
>leaves your county richer than before
I will never forget you Serbian, orthodox, peasant ruler-sama!
>>15276805
t. Svenghali Mohammedson
db8563 No.15279278
>>15279155
The answer is not to 'form' a religion at all, as one can do no such thing. Forge a practical doctrine in keeping with truth, and the metaphysical Truth- if it in fact exists- will manifest itself in full. I'm partial to Serrano's ideologically fanatical played-by-ear cosmology for various reasons, even if I remain skeptical of certain aspects, but the combination of Jewish smear-by-embrace actions by one David Sephir and the autistic shrieking of some mulatto /christian/ flat earther who can't take his eyes off the former are making the subject less popular to expound on.
This is really too far a tangent for /gsg/. Things have gotten so slow that the thread is just a stomping ground for the usual suspects of failed meme forcing literal turks from the old cuck/gsg/ shitposter clique, and occasional postings like this. Not enough map painting and 'what do now anons'ing.
>>15279258
Any map shots, particularly of pink peasant blob?
65e6db No.15279322
>>15279205
I could smash your shit eating face with my CHAD jaw you disgusting basement dweller, don't ever reply to my posts again.
fab1ee No.15280016
help me anons how do i crack dlcs in steam version of ck2?
t.brainlet
9bb1b0 No.15280024
>>15279231
Russians are worse than immigrants. Russians are not even white. Everyone who disagrees is russian or never lived among russians
7f6c95 No.15280051
>>15279231
>a country with a substantial Orthodox population
Are you Greek by any chance?
7f6c95 No.15280108
>>15279054
>To the eternal celebration of the urbanite, nature-hating jew.
Why are you inclined to view what is natural as desirable? The notion that nature represents unadulterated purity is in my view utterly moronic, but sadly widespread among circles that otherwise share many of my ideals.
f51111 No.15280118
>>15279322
Speak less Romanian I can't understand you over me fucking your dad
1404de No.15280150
>>15280108
>Why are you inclined to view what is natural as desirable?
Because everything unnatural will inevitably end up destroying itself.
7f6c95 No.15280181
>>15280150
It is true that we are instinctively driven to regress to the bestial state of nature. Most who spout such platitudes are unaware of what horrors that state entails, or how antithetical institutions we now take as a given are to our fundamental evolutionary drive. The state of nature is one of savagery and unrestricted lust, not in any way alike the romantic Fascist ideal you probably espouse.
02d6ec No.15280198
>>15278657
The "Jews" of today are not connected to the Israelites of the Old Testament.
7f6c95 No.15280262
>>15280198
Only Ashkenazis have Khazar admixture. The Mizrahis, who are coincidentally the least subversive, possibly due to their comparatively low iq, and inhabit Israel in higher numbers than any other group, have always inhabited the middle east.
3264b2 No.15280291
>>15280198
They are the exact same people like. You don't have to look far. Mizrahi Jews are what Jesus and his followers looked like. Yids push the Khazar myth to convince the masses that Jews are just another religious group and nothing more. Granted, Ashkenazi Jews do look different than other Semites but that's due to mixing with White Christians in Western Europe. Jews never changed one bit. They are still the same subversive element they always were.
d14a13 No.15280421
>>15279159
That weakness must have been the reason why Christianity became the world's dominant religion, hm?
979536 No.15280442
>>15279231
You've taken immigration reform and getting the brown people out of your country as your god. Liberals in the church are outnumbered and outgunned by the number of conservatives, reactionaries, and probably Codreanu-like fascists.
t. orthodox too
6b6ba0 No.15280471
>>15279159
>hurr durr people will surely care about my paid shilling
lol
7be0aa No.15280509
>>15280181
>romantic Fascist ideal you probably espouse.
I didn't said anything about that though.
b4ea2c No.15280554
>>15280357
>werewolves
>depicted as monkeys
0/10
fab1ee No.15280609
>>15280554
its werewolf monkey. as you can see it cannot transform as the moon isnt full yet
077e6d No.15280854
>>15280421
Spot on. That's exactly it. It glorifies weakness and promises that everyone will be saved even if their current life predicaments are shit, as long as they believe that is. It values servants above masters. It promised paradise and salvation to the poor and downtrodden. It was a religion of slaves, women and disfranchised masses before it was adopted as a useful population control measure by the crumbling Roman Empire. It gained power through trick and treachery. Like Marxism today it firstly spread in the cities among the weakest members of the society; among urban poor and women. Whites dropped it like a dead weight the moment it was convenient to do so. It took hundreds of years of dedicated missionary work to eliminate Pagan elements in White societies but they are still there. They were simply coopted by Christianity. On the other hand Christianity without the fear of death for apostasy is loosing White adherents fast. No wonder nowadays it's a region of choice for niggers, mongrels and spics. I don't know how any self-respected White man can pray to the same God as those savages.
81f20e No.15280876
>>15279155
>those religions all died out for a reason
Yeah, because of forced conversions just like how islamic conversions killed middle-eastern pagan religions. Most Europeans latched onto paganism even after having converted to christianity and it took centuries for the church to root those elements completely out. But funnily enough, it never truly died. In Northern and Eastern Europe many pagan rituals and festivals survived but its meaning was just changed to either being a secular fun time-killing thing or to something related to christianity.
>and if one were to believe a being like Thor actually exists, he is bound to ask "well why did he let all his worshippers either die or convert away, if he's supposed to be some grand warrior and shit? Either he doesn't exist or he's powerless."
Most European neopagans (but even the National Socialists and esoteric figures who influenced them had similar ideas regarding this) push the idea that the gods that were worshipped by pagans are not so much bearded guys on clouds that fuck around with people all day but more so natural powers that exist in both the common aspects of nature (rocks, trees) but also ourselves. They believe that the native gods that is worshipped by a group of people represent their own unique traits, thus the religions of the Semites and South-Americans were far more cruel and depraved in nature with a focus on murder and sex while the European ones had more so a focus on being connected with nature. Their view of the gods is similar to that of the Shinto Japanese who believe that "kami" (god) is less of a being and more of a natural force that exists in every aspect of the universe and thus also in the gods themselves.
The revival of paganism is actually happening in certain countries like Iceland but also in Caucasia and former USSR regions.
7f6c95 No.15280995
>>15280509
I assumed that you share the ideological sensitivities of most who browse this place. I certainly do.
7f6c95 No.15281082
>>15280854
>paradise and salvation to the poor and downtrodden
To respect weakness is not to promote it. Pagans typically regarded strength as a virtue that justified the dehumanization of all who failed to resist it. Christianity reversed this paradigm, most righteously.
52a725 No.15281106
>>15279278
Nah. What's left is a portion that's turned bright green as of the kang conquests. I quickly grew to like him. He basically saved me from having my county taken. Now I have to praise satan with a bunch of weirdos to get le epic game breaking powers to get out of being beheaded by jamal.
>>15280854
>choice for niggers
Islam is and has been replacing Christianity in Africa for decades. It's speculated that shiaism will become dominant in the 100 years. As for losing white believers; it's losing everyone no matter ethnicity in rich urban areas. If you've been in rural towns you would see people still practicing like it's the 19th century. Rome changed religion once christians outnumbered pagans, under discrimination of course. But you're right about one thing. Most of Europe converted peacefully because christian morals appealed to them more than what was the norm at the time. Usually, only the rich and powerful afforded pagan rituals. Now either talk about video games or fuck off back to role playing in the woods.
52a725 No.15281107
>>15281106
sorry for doubleposting, here's the image
e17669 No.15281149
>>15281106
>christcuck being this mad
So how does this explain niggers and mixeds flocking to religion that promotes the meek and doesn't glorify greatness? It's communism lite.
0e2f1b No.15281202
>>15281149
not a christian myself, but 'weak' and 'meek' don't mean the same thing. meekness is not bragging or being boastful and conceited regarding your own strength and ability; it and greatness aren't mutually exclusive.
"But the cowards, unbelievers, vile, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars–their share will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death." -Revelation chapter 21
it explicitly says that cowards will not be included in the kingdom of heaven. the book of proverbs speaks against weakness and cowardice on many occasions.
there are plenty of reasons to not like christianity, such as the fact that god's definition of freewill is little more than coercion since he punishes those who choose any choice other than worshipping him. but saying it promotes weakness isn't really accurate.
and to answer your question as to why niggers and spics like it so much, it's partially related to why most 'christian' countries are cucked and most christians are themselves cucks: they don't actually read the bible. they take a single sentence or two here and there, mash them together and create their own doctrine; or more often, they just listen to whatever their priest or pastor tells them and believe it all.
anyone who's actually read the bible and studied it in-depth is easily able to see that all of the prophecies concerning the children of israel all apply to the white race, and none of them apply to the bastard race which falsely calls itself 'judean' today.
fab1ee No.15281214
alles gutte but can anybody explain to me how to crack these dlcs? please, i am very bad at computers and dont want to waste a month trying to make it al work again
0e2f1b No.15281218
>>15281214
go to cs.rin.ru, go to the thread of the game in question, and follow the instructions. it's that easy. not gonna spoonfeed you more than that, since the threads themselves have instructions.
fab1ee No.15281348
>>15281218
fuck i forget this had comment section and now i feel like a total retard
not my best moment
077e6d No.15281363
>>15281106
Both religion spread like a wildfire there. However, slightly more niggers are still Christian nonetheless and that number may even be growing as a lot of the places with the highest birthrates are now Christian.
1efedc No.15281379
>>15281202
>anyone who's actually read the bible and studied it in-depth is easily able to see that all of the prophecies concerning the children of israel all apply to the white race, and none of them apply to the bastard race which falsely calls itself 'judean' today.
Holy fuck, the mental gymnastics you go on.
Christianism is an universal religion, has nothing to do at all with race.
8b6b43 No.15281399
>>15281106
>But you're right about one thing. Most of Europe converted peacefully because christian morals appealed to them more than what was the norm at the time
This is complete bullshit, the Romans destroyed pagan temples and tortured spiritual leaders. The conversion of Southern-Europe was a long road of suffering for pagans. Go read Rome Contra Judaea ; Judaea Contra Roma.
There may have been some European tribes who converted peacefully because their leaders did so but they in turn would force their religion upon neighbouring tribes with violence. The few tribes that converted peacefully only did so because they believed that the christian god would lead them to victory in battles so those conversions were mainly done from a pagan mindset.
Appealing morals my ass.
0e2f1b No.15281412
>>15281379
christianity was only meant for the white race, and it is inherently racial.
http://archive.is/NA0Um
1efedc No.15281451
>>15281412
It originated in judea, being preached to jews, trying to make chritianity something racial is even worse than pagan larping.
Chritianism doesnt give a fuck about who you are aslong as you obey god's commandments..
0e2f1b No.15281459
>>15281451
>ignores evidence from a link provided
>repeats previous statement
gotcha.
1efedc No.15281478
>>15281459
>evidence
>random page
That is as much evidence as people claiming the chariot with spinning wheels was an UFO.
Christianity being racial would mean god is an hypocrite and the whole godspell is bullshit, youre just looking for straws to look good for stormer larpers.
0e2f1b No.15281483
>>15281478
>being so smart you don't even have to look at opposing evidence before you can dismiss it
gotcha.
1efedc No.15281491
>>15281483
Then youre saying god is an hypocrite, what a great christian you are!
0e2f1b No.15281504
>>15281491
>an hypocrite
>an
christianity being racial doesn't make god a hypocrite. perhaps you should investigate the evidence instead of dismissing it without looking, then perhaps you wouldn't come to such stupid conclusions.
0e2f1b No.15281510
>>15281491
sage for doublepost, but if you had even bothered to read my first post you would've clearly seen me state that i'm not a christian. so not only do you refuse to look at evidence, but you refuse to read the entirety of the posts you respond to. retard.
1efedc No.15281549
>>15281504
>christianity being racial doesn't make god a hypocrite
>everyone inherited the original sin
>everyone is flawed
>everyone can find salvation through the sacrifice of jesus
>but only white people are allowed to find salvation even if the rest are actually good christians
Do you fail to understand how this renders all of christianity null and god an absoulte hypocrite?
So acording to you everyone that isnt white goes to hell just because they arent white?
Does this really soudn like something god would do?
Stop pretending youre a christian.
0e2f1b No.15281572
>>15281549
>stop pretending youre a christian
i never claimed to be a christian you illiterate nigger. try actually reading what i fucking posted. holy shit you're dumb.
and not every race was created by god. the pure descendents of adam and eve thru seth are the heirs of the promises of god, and the nonwhite races including modern jews have no place in heaven.
>everyone can find salvation through the sacrifice of jesus
no, they can't. salvation is based on both behavior and race. those races which were created as a result of the fallen angels mixing themselves with men have no part in that.
1efedc No.15281601
>>15281572
> those races which were created as a result of the fallen angels mixing themselves with men have no part in that.
Those where the fucking nephilim, they died in the flood, what kind of mental gymnastic do you have to go on to claim that non-whites are nephilim?
This is exactly the kind of shit the bible warned would happen with the perversion of the word.
>and not every race was created by god. the pure descendents of adam and eve thru seth are the heirs of the promises of god
All of humanity are descendants of adam and eve in the bible, holy shit.
077e6d No.15281610
>>15281412
If Christianity was meant for White race only then why most of it's adherents are non-White? Why is that? Why the second country to adopt Christianity as a state religion was nigger as fuck Ethiopia in 330? The first one being suspiciously brown Armenia a couple of years earlier? Why Christianity shares the Original Testament with the Jews? Why the holiest of the Holy Sites is in Judea instead of somewhere in Europe? Couldn't God reveal himself to the Germans or the Slavs instead of the Jews?
0e2f1b No.15281667
>>15281601
the only one perverting the word of the bible is you, by claiming that the promises intended for the white race actually apply to niggers and spics.
anyway, i provided you with a link that has tons of information and goes into great detail, with many citations of ancient historians, showing what i've claimed. read it or not, you're still a dumbass.
>>15281610
first, the fact that many adherents today are nonwhite is largely due to the perversion of the teachings of christ along with the work of cucked churches who care more about foreign mongrels than about their own race and kindred.
next, ancient ethiopia was white. before you start with 'we wuz', all of the ancient historians refer to it as white and differentiate it from the 'wooly-haired black-skinned savages' of nearby lands. ancient armenia was also white, they didn't become mixed until later after several nonwhite empires conquered them along with allowing themselves to mix with other nonwhites by other means.
regarding the old testament, the ancient israelites were also white, and all white europeans are their descendents. the jews, however, aren't. in the time beginning around when the judahites returned from their captivity in babylon, they began allowing nonjudeans to follow their religion and granted them equal rights. they conquered several neighboring nonwhite tribes such as the edomites, several canaanite tribes, the remnant of the amalekits, the kenites, etc, and began mixing with them to such an extent that by the time of christ a large amount of the inhabitants of judea weren't white judeans but mongrelized with the various nonwhite tribes, and an edomite was even king (herod).
http://archive.is/2O871
there's a link to a detailed explanation, with historical evidence, of the origin of the germanic peoples who migrated into europe.
1efedc No.15281693
>>15281667
>by claiming that the promises intended for the white race actually apply to niggers and spics.
The promise was originally to fucking abraham, a jew, then when jesus came, he was the end of the covenant with abraham and te beggining of god's covenant with the nations.
Stop perverting the bible and christianity, god does not care about race, if he did so, he would have pointed it out, and like >>15281610 said, his area of action would have been in northern europe, the the levant and the middle east.
Fuck off, your not even a christian yet here you are trying to pervert christianity to make it a racial thing.
0e2f1b No.15281711
>>15281693
>being this assblasted
are you a nigger or something, and that's why you're sperging out so much over the idea that christianity isn't for nonwhites?
>>>/oven/
1efedc No.15281718
>>15281711
No, im a christian, and seeing you, a complete asshat that isnt even a christian, make my religion a completely hypocrital racial mess for his own beliefs makes me absolutely mad.
65e6db No.15281731
>>15281711
you're embarassing, just take your ritalin and go to sleep, you shouldn't use the internet for sure.
3da66a No.15281734
Boy, this thread sure is video games.
0e2f1b No.15281736
>>15281731
scrolled up and saw you're the faggot who referred to niggers as 'black dudes'. not really surprised.
65e6db No.15281763
>>15281736
Imagine being so autistic that you don't even recognize when people are making a joke and when they're not. Like I said, you should receive professional assistance by people and your family, not browsing these websites..
0e2f1b No.15281768
>>15281763
>using two periods as ellipsis
>i was merely pretending
077e6d No.15281788
>>15281718
No, I'm not a Christian. I'm a nationalist first and foremost and observing what Christianity does to my kinsmen and how it turns them into good-for-nothing cucks I started to dislike it very much. I'm sorry you weren't lucky enough to be born as a White man but trust my word on this one; it's a great feeling. I'm not a hypocrite either. I'm perfectly aware Christianity is an universalist and proselytizing religion. It was always like that and so I distance myself from it as far away as I could.
3da66a No.15281802
Isn’t it great that two autists are throwing a bitchfit about religion and other non video game related shit in a video games thread, on a video games board which is supposed to be about discussing video games?
65e6db No.15281804
>>15281768
just imagine having this much of a cognitive deficit and actually being unable to comprehend messages that you read.
It's almost like I can see what type of person you are just by what you type out here
0e2f1b No.15281818
>>15281804
because sperging and replying "just get help anon, hurr durr go see a shrink" is worthy of serious response.
oh shit, wait a second. it isn't.
>>15281802
yeah i'm prolly gonna get a temp-ban for derailling at this point, but oh well, too late now. felt like it was worth discussing, and it's semi-related to certain gsg games like CK2, technically anyway based on the in-game religions.
65e6db No.15281863
>>15281818
are you as an individual worthy of an actual well thought out and nicely written reply? ask yourself.and i never allowed you to reply to my posts, so shoo away and go argue about christianity and muslims on the cesspit where you came from
0e2f1b No.15281869
>>15281863
>allowed you to respond to my posts
shoot yourself in the face, nigger.
65e6db No.15281885
>>15281869
why are you so obsessed with them whitey? Did they steal your lunch at school?
fab1ee No.15281910
>>15281863
whatever you say you religoious cuck go watch as your based pope sucks off nigger dicks you fucking disease upon this earth
AND NOW
VIDEO GAMES
077e6d No.15281923
>>15281667
You can WE WUZ all you want but it doesn't change the fact tha Jews were always Jews and Ethiopian niggers were simply just that, good-for-nothing niggers like the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa. Does anyone who adopt Christianity suddenly becomes White to you just because you feel like it, you give them enough time and they share your religion? I guess all those precious goldy niggers in Congo are Whites now and I simply didn't saw that before. What a time to be alive. You can change your race just because you believe in Jesus Christ. Truly a miracle of God.
0e2f1b No.15281932
>>15281923
well, no, i never claimed that anyone could change their race. it's well-documented by ancient greek historians, such as strabo in his book 'geography' that the ancient ethiopians were white. it's also attested that the ancient armenians were white. neither are white now, obviously, they're almost entirely mixed with turks and arabs in the case of armenia, and have been overrun with niggers and no longer white at all in the case of ethiopia.
additionally, i provided a link to backup my assertions which has much evidence from ancient historians. read it. or don't, doesn't really matter.
65e6db No.15281955
>>15281910
when did I ever even say that I was a christian? what you really need is to get beaten up by a bunch of niggers to deflate your autistic ego for good, not videogames..
7f6c95 No.15281974
>>15281923
Ethiopians are around 45% Semitic, not even remotely similar to west African Negroids.
077e6d No.15282039
>>15281932
Not really no. You're mixing a lot of things I'm afraid. If you try to refer to those so called White Aethiopians that Pliny the Elder wrote about then you are once again wrong. i'm sorry to burt you bubble but Etiopians were always black as coal. Moses himself married a niggeress. Genetic studies show that. Granted, their skull shape is different than other Apefricans but that's it. They are still savages which never accomplished anything of note. Once again adopting Christianity doesn't make's make you White.
>>15281974
That doesn't make them White at all. Jews are Semites incarnate, are they White to you?
7f6c95 No.15282063
>>15282039
I never claimed that they are white, but they are certainly superior to most sub-saharans.
077e6d No.15282162
>>15282063
They really aren't, and they never accomplished anything of note. They are still the same savages like the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa. Their only noteworthy feature is that they adopted Christianity earlier than Rome. Aside from that they are just another tribe of niggers squatting around doing nothing productive at all. .
7f6c95 No.15282175
>>15282162
>they never accomplished anything of note.
They are the only sub-saharan civilization to have its own alphabet. Their history goes back thousands of years, with monumental architecture that the rest of Africa can only dream of. The kingdom of Aksum was among the most powerful in the ancient world.
526172 No.15282196
>>15282162
Compared to whites and asians, no they haven't done much of note. Compared to Africans, well they're leagues ahead though to be fair that's not hard at all.
7f6c95 No.15282235
>>15282162
>adopted Christianity earlier than Rome
Recent Archaeological evidence suggests that they were actually the first to adopt Christianity. It was previously believed the Armenians preceded them.
0e2f1b No.15282249
>>15282039
you haven't really bursted a bubble or disproven anything. even if you disregard pliny, strabo also wrote about the ancient ethiopians being white and distinguished them from niggers. there are even illuminated manuscripts and icons from early times inwhich they depict themselves as white.
the modern ethiopians being niggers isn't evidence that the folk of ethiopia were always niggers, because nations and peoples move. the fact that niggers inhabit modern ethiopia is unfortunate, but it isn't evidence at all that the ancients who inhabited that area were of the same race. using that logic, egypt was always inhabited by shitskin sandniggers because it's inhabited by them today.
077e6d No.15282263
>>15282175
They were lucky enough to be in the sphere of influence of ancient Egypt and thus could learn from it. Their writing system is based on Egyptian hieroglyphes and was later perfected by Jewish missionaries spreading Christianity there. Subsequently it was used as a liturgical language of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church with many Semitic loan words, especially those related to religion. The Kingdom of Aksum never projected much power outside of its borders nonetheless. I give you that and admit my mistake as thay tried to create a semi-competent state but your assertion that the Kingdom of Aksum was among the most powerful in the ancient world is simply wrong. Their power laid in trade routs (especially in ivory trade) They never interacted with the rest of the Mediterranean world and they din't have much impact on the world overall. Once again, most of its accomplishment occurred before Christianity was adopted as a state religion so it's not the faith in Jesus Christ which made them who they are.
159c38 No.15282277
>>15279231
Religions tend to be supra-national and designed to appeal to all people, so it makes sense that they wouldn't care much about immigration. In fact, the only nationalist religion that comes to mind is judaism with its "chosen people" and all that shit. The core issue here is, however, that (((modern))) interpretation of Christianity spreads values that are basically watered down socialism along with masochistic shit like "turn the other cheek" that's torn out of context and presented as some kind of maxim about how one should be a pussy whipped bitch all the time. At the same time, all the good values that have kept Europe strong and healthy for millenia are either barely mentioned, or outright retconned. The problem here isn't that the religion doesn't have "don't racemix" in the 10 commandments, but that it spreads poisonous values and mindset that allow shit like this to become a problem in the first place.
>>15279278
>The answer is not to 'form' a religion at all, as one can do no such thing.
History disagrees with you heavily. Seeing as how there are multiple religions that contradict each other in their very premise, it stands to reason that at least some of them were literally "formed" by some dude who was either high on shrooms or planned the thing as a way to get rich.
>Forge a practical doctrine in keeping with truth
That's ideology and that's fine, but the people need faith as well. Why do you think all the "atheist" in post-commie countries tend to "believe in something, but don't wanna call it god"? Personally, I take the agnostic stance and consider God to be both impossible to prove or disprove, but the existence and effects of religions are a fact. As such, in order to both make an ideology more appealing and for it to satisfy the spiritual needs of the people, there ought to be a religion that incorporates a proper, pro-white ideology. If it is impossible to use an existing religion for this, then a new one has to be made. It's a very pragmatist and perhaps cynical approach, as it basically admits that the actual nature of God doesn't even enter the equation, but it's not like any of the current religions is any better – they've all become a tool of politics in one way or another (or have, perhaps, always been that), with interpretations and even content changing when it becomes advantageous to do so.
>>15280876
>Most European neopagans (but even the National Socialists and esoteric figures who influenced them had similar ideas regarding this) push the idea that the gods that were worshipped by pagans are not so much bearded guys on clouds that fuck around with people all day but more so natural powers that exist in both the common aspects of nature (rocks, trees) but also ourselves.
So literally the religions of primitive peoples, aka the caveman's first step on the way towards spirituality. I don't really see a connection to Norse gods in this, since even those were significantly more advanced. Mystical "powers" of rocks and plants are wiccan-tier bullshit that usually lacks even a creation mythos and cannot be taken seriously. You'd be better off claiming spiritual powers inherent in anime waifus, as that way you'd at least get weebs on board.
1a5e90 No.15282338
>>15278797
I don't recall reading that in the Havamal. Source?
1a5e90 No.15282353
>>15249123
Apparently HOI3 has more mods than HOI4. I have not played either. Am I better off ignoring HOI4 and sticking with HOI3?
7f6c95 No.15282354
>>15282263
>Their writing system is based on Egyptian hieroglyphes
The Greek alphabet, from which the Latin alphabet was subsequently derived, was similarly based on that of the Phoenicians. This fact does not detract from its significance as an innovation.
>it was used as a liturgical language of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church with many Semitic loan words, especially those related to religion.
Thailand developed its alphabet for the sole purpose of transcribing Buddhist scriptures. It too is packed with loan words pertaining to religion. I do not see how this lessens Thailand's cultural value, or the significance of this achievement.
>most of its accomplishment occurred before Christianity
Christianity was by no means detrimental to them, but I have not stated that Christianity was responsible for their rise. Ethiopia's downward spiral towards irrelevance was initiated by the arrival of Islam, which forced Ethiopia to weather constant defensive wars, and severed its commercial and cultural ties to the rest of the world.
1efedc No.15282356
>>15282353
Why would you ever play HOI4?
Play 3 or darkest hour.
0fe5e8 No.15282358
>>15282353
Yes, and I actually like HOI4. It's massively casualized compared to what came before it, and they're slowly releasing stuff that should have been in the main game as DLC.
9451c6 No.15282366
>>15282175
AWW SHEEIT NIGGA U HERE DAT
>starts hooting
DIS CRACKA BE SAYIN DAT WE
>tips $2 on a $100 dollar bill
MY NIGGA, DAT WE FINNA WUZ BOOLIN IN ANSHUNT EEGYPT
>takes a hit of crack
CUZ GESS WAT NIGGA WE
>pours out a 40 for my homie trayvon
WE FINNA WUZ
>stabs a kid and steals his shoes
I AINT SHITTIN YA NIGGA
>yells at a movie theater screen
WE WUZ
>yells "worldstar!"
FUCKEN
>trashes rental house
KANGZ
>douses self in grape soda
N SHEEIT namean?
>gets shot by the police for doin nuffin
1a5e90 No.15282398
>>15282358
>>15282356
Thanks for the information. I was ignorant before, but now I know to go straight to HOI3.
7f6c95 No.15282423
>>15282366
I suggest that you look into it.
>butt naked
How are Liberian west Africans even remotely connected to Ethiopia?
f38ffc No.15282445
Anyone got a download link for HoI4's Kaiserreich? Been playing the DH version for so many years and there isn't much left to do, I also want to see the damage the cucks developing it now did.
I have up until the Death and Dishonour DLC, got the torrent from scurv, picrel is the checksum. Thanks in advance.
3da66a No.15282452
>>15282445
Aren’t the devs for Kaiserreich commies? They’ll have done a lot of damage.
f38ffc No.15282469
>>15282452
I was curious and had to take a look at their leddit, it's pretty disgusting alright. Lots of syndicalist LARPing going on, see pic.
Although it's to be expected given their main outlet is reddit.
7f6c95 No.15282472
>>15282452
>Aren’t the devs for Kaiserreich commies?
Yes. The playerbase is also overwhelmingly leftist.
db8563 No.15282615
>>15282277
I really shouldn't continue, but I feel compelled while the iron's hot.
>Seeing as how there are multiple religions that contradict each other in their very premise, it stands to reason that at least some of them were literally "formed" by some dude who was either high on shrooms or planned the thing as a way to get rich.
The problem is one of definition; these manipulator cults, rooted in falsehood, cannot be called 'religion.' They are not revelatory or transcendental. They do not have actual metaphysical root or implication that is not either negative or thieved from the ideal haze of earlier ages, and usually contain both. Everything that can be called 'religion' is not Religion, all 'truths' are not Truth, but the blended product of incessant mutual well-poisoning by forces apparently external to this present world. Squint hard enough and the myths match up fine enough. Start looking for a perversion of something greater in each and every aspect of a religion- start looking at each figure as at once hero and villain, with a confirmation bias for the Ideal- and you will arrive towards some capital-letter concepts.
As example, the serpent in the garden. The usual interpretation is of a fall of grace elicited by a subordinate to a singular, infinite God and his temptation; the gnostic interpretation is of the derailing of an inferior godlets' tyranny, after which the tyrannized are spited and the Promethean liberator tortured & condemned in martyrdom, having submitted himself to the rules of the world in entering it for this purpose. Both are valuable interpretations, but cannot be directly reconciled as literal events, unless one considers through the haze that both archetypes can have been fulfilled separately; first the lion-faced snake godlet tempting curious things into his midst to devour, and the Promethean sneak-thievery of the soul follows. The latter is recorded and interpreted as the former, while the former is to some degree lost.
Then, the Jacob-Israel Esau-Edom dichotomy, or that of Cain & Abel. The former consists of at root an eternal blood feud between unalike brother elements in the Christian Israelite mindset, with Esau-Edom being brutish, jealous Jewry and Jaboc-Israel the noble inheritor of the divine; on the other hand, you have simple, honest and physically virtuous Esau cheated heinously by his own blood brother and scorned by the lower god that presides over them, slandered by the involuted progeny of his kin through extrabiblical Rabbinic material. In Cain & Abel you at once have the first accursed murderer and the blessed martyr, and also the scorner of the illusionary world, who strikes down his ignorantly obesiant brother as a traitor to himself and shoulders crushing weight forever after.
The simple state of antithetical existence of all life & truth to Jewry and the existence of 'principalities and powers' malevolent is simple to grasp, easy to reach. The follow-on step of both obsessively and noncommittally looking at all aspects of all things through the lens of this in full confirmation bias, as the most pigheaded shield against subversion and most complete tool of extraction imaginable, is less so.
>That's ideology and that's fine, but the people need faith as well.
Faith cannot be placed in dead things. Stories, scriptures, doctrines and dogmas with or without context. Faith lay in things that live, or things that show themselves before the faithful before being obscured, and not things totally unseen before being revealed. It's why all of the above dual interpretation does not consist of faith, but navel-gazing investigation in the interest of finding that living ideal to place Faith into. False shortcuts to Faith by way of contemporary religions or non-revelatory reconstructions will only chimaerize and puerilize that nascent Ideal or rather its implementation.
db8563 No.15282617
>>15282615
>Why do you think all the "atheist" in post-commie countries tend to "believe in something, but don't wanna call it god"?
Because God was killed in them, the living soul of him beaten and extracted out of them, but the bones of spirit remain. This done by a totally dead and material ideology, totally antithetical to the spiritual or romantic world, although it will eagerly co-opt them if it is of more utility to the cannibal mechanizing power structure of Marx to do so rather than to destroy them outright. Hence Stalin's parafascist rollback to 'socialism in one country,' the half-regeneration of art through socialist realism, the induction of Soviet pseudonationalism, the more or less nominal unbanning of Orthodoxy, in the face of Trotsky's internationalism guttering and failing with the ghost of world revolution given up. All infectious viruses engineered to parasitize the Ideal, since it couldn't at that time kill it or attempt to kill it and survive. Another attempted hammer blow against the Ideal would shatter the tool; instead it sacrificed itself slowly, to ensure a mutual rot.
>If it is impossible to use an existing religion for this, then a new one has to be made.
Made is the problem in your conception. You can't make a religion. You can make a falsity, or a theory, or a frame, but you cannot manufacture Faith. You can put yourself on the road to truth, you can pave the way for it, you can unconsciously fulfill it, but conscious grasping or cynical construction of the metaphysical is doomed to failure if going beyond theory and the base, vague needs of beginning the mission of Movement. Either God is there, or he is not. If he is not there, we should not consume ourselves trying to directly manufacture him as opposed to constructing a pseudo-religion of ideology, and if he is, we will arrive in time. A living Ideal neither kills nor ignores nor puppeteers God; it finds Him in the process of its own fulfillment, alive and well, awake from a too-long sleep.
>Mystical "powers" of rocks and plants are wiccan-tier bullshit that usually lacks even a creation mythos and cannot be taken seriously.
Nonsense. As literally, presently manifesting metaphysics, yes, you'd be right, it's a very silly thing to believe. If there's any leyline or such-and-such system of living energy, it isn't something men of the present can tap, and if it exists and can be, the effort at present must be so monumental that any returns given would be very diminished. But in terms of abstract aspects, the notion of a living superior undercurrent in all things we can identify as 'good' in nature and the elemental world of forces is a very useful complement to the notion of a benighted world with external supra-somethings in watch and waiting and enchained men with the stuff to transcend their bonds.
Again keying back to Serrano, he rejected the usual escapist gnosticism, which denounces materiality totally, in favor of the notion of the world and all that is natural in it as a divine plagiarism; twisted by inferior hands, but rooted ultimately in the superior world in its mold, and thus worth fighting for tooth and nail to seize it from its plagiarist maker. His and Savitri Devi's communing with the natural, be it the Andes mountains or the black forests of Germany, is far from empty sentiment or petty affectation, but a key aspect of all-unifying idealist fanaticism, ready to scourge the evil and save the good in all things down to the last blade of grass. If we are going to speak of Religion or 'religion' as matters of utility as you conceive them, then I will plainly say that animism is useful, insofar as it is in our hands.
>>15282338
The source paraded around is a homophile Jew seemingly making shit up on the fly (in much the same fashion as the 'Hitler is a gay Jewish pedo who pooped on his niece' schizoid lie market) and his alleged source by people spreading this is a couple excerpted verses out of context in a /christian/ autist infograph with colored text screaming 'HA HA ASATRU ARE CUMEATERS' while pointing to a line that reads, 'I began to become fruitful,' with the 'fruitful' in original Norse being 'fertile,' or very literally 'semen.' I don't remember any hanged men in context of said verse, except maybe Odin himself if it related to his crucifixion and acquisition of the runes. Whatever the context was, I was rather unconvinced at the time.
5669d8 No.15282678
>>15281693
>he would have pointed it out
Except he fucking did you fucking sperg, he literally created different races by handing out recognizable "marks". He selected the Jews as his "chosen people". Why can't you Christians read your own shitty book?
7f6c95 No.15282688
>>15282617
I recognize your writing style. I'm absolutely certain that I've come across you on one particular forum. I may be wrong, but the similarity is too great for me to ignore.
7f6c95 No.15282776
>>15282617
The pompous, unnecessarily poetic prose, the Occult fascination, the needless analogies, the Nordic fixation, it is all there. I'm 99% certain that it must have been you. If I am indeed correct, then you must have joined that forum on February 2nd. Am I correct?
a4cc78 No.15282778
0e2f1b No.15282792
>>15282776
stop being a faggot and tell us which forum he's from so the bullying can commence.
also reminder that lucifer did absolutely nothing wrong.
>all of you angels must worship adam
<why? you told us to worship only you. how can you then say 'worship adam'?
>doesn't matter why. do it or i'll curse you.
3da66a No.15282800
Don't you just enjoy this video game discussion anon?
59c19f No.15282810
>>15282800
>I'm too much of a brainlet to engage in a conversation that's tangentially related to grand strategy games
3da66a No.15282820
>>15282810
>I'm intelligent for derailing a thread with shit that's only tangentially related to video games and belongs on /pol/ or /christian/
4633b3 No.15283085
>>15283070
First, you're a stupid nigger because you're playing hoi4, second you're twice a stupid nigger for asking where to get something you could easily search online.
I could spoonfeed you, but I will not. Fuck you.
f38ffc No.15283096
>>15283085
Wow that's pretty rude, buddy.
db8563 No.15284836
>>15282778
>>15282800
Sorry. The thread was slow. It's still slow. Historical & theoretic tangents used to be more balanced with game posts and tie into them more directly, but I've taken things too far off the rails. I'll strictly cut my own input on the subject off after this. If I had to try and tie it back into /gsg/, I'd ask, 'why does no one ever bother with Cathars, Bogomils, or other Christian heresies?' You have your Pagan blobs and your Zoroastrian blobs starting out in the relative boonies before working their way back to relevance (with or without a looming Caliphate or imperial state threatening to end you) and your conventional Christian blobs, but no one here seems to go for the all-in madman option of flagrant heresy in the middle of developed western or eastern civilization. Not anymore at least.
I liked the Paulician Russia anon from way back for this reason, because although he wasn't any less in the boonies, it led to some very interesting developments through the Christian world and made for neat gameplay. Third Rome forming centuries early from eating through Byzantium & Orthodox moral authority, Christian raiders in the Caucasus and the Levant, Islam turning to calmer waters in the face of screaming Rus. It was nice.
>>15282688
>>15282776
I don't think so, but who knows. I don't do forums for the most part, and I've never bothered with any /fringe/ forums. Too impure a vector, and I'm not that dedicated anyways. I can't really see where you're getting the 'nordic fascination' part, considering the Odin bit was clarifying a shitpost and the rest was all Christian-Gnostic spiel, unless you're reading into the Serrano angle.
>pompous
>unnecessarily poetic
Man, that's harsh coming from you, Mr. 'man is better as a shackled shutter-minded thing in as unnatural and slavish a mindset as possible, also the only alternative to passionless lid-eyed lukewarmness is total anarchic hedonism so don't dare try to get out from under this.' So let's get at you now if you're going to be prickly. What is conscious application of positive & negative eugenics with a slant to the former, increasing collective strength through average individual strength rather than or in addition to grafting people together as compound units, without striving to stymie them? What is the imposition of dual praise-shame systems oriented towards individual quality, merit, and service to collective over shame away from 'pride' and 'sin' that in practice is largely invoked against high & middle strata refusing to tolerate these exact ill qualities in lower or alien strata of society?
How exactly are we incapable of imposing or rediscovering a better system in line with the natural that retains the organizational strengths of civil society without the crippling moral weakness & timidity of your fetishized virus - that's your description, not mine, of Christianity as a foreign imposer in a natural body- that is responsible for its own downfall, rather than it becoming more abhorrently 'natural' and 'pagan?' God forbid things act in their proper order and reach their proper heights; we need to mechanize and enslave them all with a veneer of equitable sanctity or it'll all go to the dogs & goys just like that. You're offering up spiritual factory farming as the end-all be-all for humanity, decrying the notion of working with and enhancing ordinary systems of growth to his benefit as impossible; let the man-beasts get a whiff of green pastureland and they're gone to the woods to feed on their own and whack it on the trees.
db8563 No.15284838
>>15284836
With this antihuman line of thinking, you're only a few steps away from that Gilgamesh-raping psychotic from way back on pre exodus 4/pol/, and his monstrous 'post-Marx posthumanism' concept of a universal servitude-loving lobotomized gelding clones supervised by a class of nerve stapled 'bliss rider' administrators with the electronic fingers of a single narcissist arch-technician on their dopamine buttons. The only part lacking is the technological sophistication, the Keith Thompson art, and the willingness to replace the stodgy lie of control mechanism pseudo-Christianity and its stolen salvation, with a more tangible chemically induced heaven & hell and a computerized watchman in every head as opposed to an Archon over every shoulder.
To 'upraise' humanity from a natural state of basically good potential in his well-conceived but in implementation vicious environs to one of dampered flesh-cogs in a machine of all-protecting weakness, insofar as all its moving parts fall under a standardized set of mechanical and obedient psychological tolerances and cannot be oppressed any more than any other or any more than they already would be, if they had the mental capacity to actually suffer external oppression in the first place. Man is horrible, after all, and has to be saved from himself. And since he is so lowly, so wretched, the means to save him have no need for the obsolete dignity you propose to fool him into it. It's all extraneous fluff to make you feel good, or satisfied, in place of the naked sadism which you cannot bring yourself to enjoy as a constant.
Man isn't free any further than his own strength can free him. So, we would like him to be strong, to be as absolutely strong as possible. The key is to teach him what he should do with this freedom of strength, and always and ever encourage the means and the ends of this strength in all respects. The notion that transcendent reaching will end in man-animal rutting is the most insulting notion I've ever heard to man's potential, though I should not be surprised based on your conception of him as inherently irredeemable. It is my strong conviction that your road of tolerating shackles on natural potential, if it does not co-opt the aforementioned ethic, and it did such unfortunately too often up to now, will end in milquetoast failure, or total slavery beyond human imagining, depending on who seizes the reins. And if it does co-opt the self-improving, transcending ethic, then it will unfortunately stop the fullest fulfillment of it, because this road fears its subject and it fears its own limits. And fear leads it away from co-option down the purer road again, to gilded chains and empty holy-of-holy mantras, praising the unnatural gatekeeper of better days, until one very unfortunately manages to find him.
tl;dr why do you have to be a pretentious, no-fun, insincere faggot with a boner for Christianity as a social control mechanism while you consciously reject its bearing any actual truth in favor of subjective 'glory' in its twisting effects, and a misanthropic streak so passionlessly wide? If you're going to trend with misanthropy, at least be conflicted about it. Be befuddled and agonized by it. More pathos that way. If you're really not just pretending to be apathetically jaded with the state of others to the point you can look at them as you apparently do, what exactly is human in you with this sheer a degree of fastidious disdain? How exactly have you not crossed the gap into posthumanism? I see little stopping you.
adfb6c No.15285634
>>15282277
>Religions tend to be supra-national and designed to appeal to all people
>the only nationalist religion that comes to mind is judaism
>what is Shintoism
>what is Hinduism
>what is Yazidism
>what is Tengriism
>what is Druzism
>what is Yazdanism
>what is Chinese Folk Religion
>what is African Folk Religion
>what are the de factio nationalist versions of already existing religions like the Armenian Church for Armenians, Assyrian Church for Assyrians, Alevism for Turks and Kurds, modern Zoroastranism for Parsis
>what is every form of paganism I haven't mentioned yet
You're talking out of your ass. I'd say that islam and christianity are one of a few religions throughout history that were meant to be universal. People have always preferred having a faith for their own clans and tribes and even among muslims and christians, people made their own sects to distance themselves from other ethnic groups.
1efedc No.15285666
>>15282678
>he literally created different races by handing out recognizable "marks"
Except he fucking did it, the covenant with abraham is where the whole jewish thing come from, but that shit ended when jesus comes into play, since he is the end of the covenant.
527985 No.15285696
>>15285634
>I'd say that islam and christianity are one of a few religions throughout history that were meant to be universal
Even early islam had an undercurrent just being a version of kikery for arabs with the intend of uniting the camelfuckers against foreign religious influence and political domination from the surrounding empires, but then the empires fucked up and the muslim conquest just steamrolled on until it morphed into a would-be-global endeavour. Arabs were already kicking the Roman and Persian teeth in before they got around collecting their scriptures into a written guideline.
159c38 No.15286019
>>15285634
You miss the point, anon. While those religions are restricted to one culture, they do not require said culture in their teachings. If a Spaniard wanted to convert to Shinto (well, "convert" given how vague the whole thing is after MacArthur dismantled the imperial cult), he would be free to do so. Judaism, however, strictly maintains "chosen people" that need to be of the proper blood in order to be considered proper jews.
52a725 No.15286057
Is anyone looking forward to the new ck2 expansion? It looks like the same shit as secret societies but with more wars.
384fe3 No.15286075
>>15286057
No because it's going to be about as messy as 30 years war was in terms of gameplay functionality.
159c38 No.15286127
>>15286057
the only thing I look forward to are the bloodlines, as that way the mods that already include the damn thing since forever now have a proper UI for it
6a63d7 No.15286152
>>15286057
I like the new pagan reformation mechanics. I hope modders can use those mechanics for more relevant things though, like heresies.
52a725 No.15286186
>>15286152
We finally have a reason to reform and not just convert. This could've been done in a free update, but ya know, 20 dollars is reasonable price for an extra window.
6a63d7 No.15286222
>>15286186
I didn't even consider purchasing it when I wrote that. Obviously it's not worth $20, but no one on here is going to spend $20 to get it anyway.
a0d753 No.15286262
>>15286019
You're still talking out of your ass because all religions I mentioned except for the varying versions of christianity or islam don't accept converts. Parsis don't accept converts because they want to remain ethnically clean and intermarrying is considered taboo, Yazidis have a religion very similar to Judaism where they believe to be the only descendants of Adam, Druzes believe in reincarnation and that a Druze can only reincarnate as a fellow Druze if he was born from two Druze parents thus you have to be of their blood to be considered one of them.
Everything else are religions you can't really convert to. As an example, you mentioned Shintoism, there is no specific ritual to become a Shinto like with islam or christianity, you just are one or you aren't. Shinto is a religion meant for ethnic Japanese and thus only Japs regard themselves as official followers. Also, while Shintoism is mainly a term used for all native religions that exist in Japan, there are also specific sects with their own temples and leaders and I doubt that they'd accept gajins into their community. Same goes for Chinese folk religion; you can perform the rituals and call yourself a follower of a Chinese folk religion but Chinks themselves will never regard you as one because you aren't Chinese.
853288 No.15288015
>>15280016
Download the crack from a Russian website, get rid of the viruses, and then just dump the dlcs in.
159c38 No.15288433
>>15286262
Don't accept converts due to the culture of its adherents, not due to the religious teaching itself. Had Japs conquered China and decided to annex it and subjugate its people (instead of genociding them), you'd see devout Shinto chinks in a few generations. Judaism, on the other hand, explicitly states in the religious teaching itself that you need to have the right ancestors in order to qualify.
69bdda No.15288636
>>15286057
I like that Paradox finally buffed Catholics. I always thought it was the weakest of all Judeo-Christian denominations, aside from some meme heresies that is. Previously crusades were simply too weak, crusader states disappeared almost immediately and papal interaction were seldom any useful. It just didn't have the punch and raw offensive power of Islam or reformed Pagans (especially reformed Norse) nor did it have the stability of Orthodoxy. Now Catholics look quite good with thr new crusade mechanics, reconquista and the northern crusades added in. Sadly history got raped as usual. Paradox doesn't have a clue how to properly flash out the 4th Crusade or the Children's Crusade turning them into spicy memes for the Reddit crowd instead. Changes to holy orders, bloodlines and new Pagan reformation aside, everything else was simply stolen from HIP (coronations for feudal kings and emperors, sainthood for pious Christians). Also, their map changes look amaturish at best in comparison to SWMH. Even the UI changes were done better in HIP. Overall it looks okay but still not worth the money obviously. It's a breath of fresh air after Memes & Mystics and Chink Dragon but presents the rather typical low quality Paradox is known for. I like the new movement lock though. Finally you will fortunately stop having to play a game of cat and mouse with the AI everytime you decide to invade their realms. Also, Paradox couldn't help themselves and had to expand Africa even in a DLC solely centered around religious wars in Europe.
159c38 No.15289043
>>15288636
>everything else was simply stolen from HIP
That's Paradox's modus operandi. Steal the idea from a mod, make a UI for it, and sell it as a brand new DLC.
527985 No.15289080
>>15289043
Integrating mod features into paid patches means the modders only have to fix the features instead of coming up with clumsy workarounds to implement them, so it's a win-win for the non-paying audience.
41f848 No.15290196
>>15290157
Hey that's kinda cool, keep it up!
c6cb7e No.15291121
>>15286019
>If a Spaniard wanted to convert to Shinto (well, "convert" given how vague the whole thing is after MacArthur dismantled the imperial cult), he would be free to do so.
And no actual Japanese practitioners would accept him as having converted; because he isn't ethnically Japanese he's not actually Shinto.
526172 No.15291159
>>15290157
Now we just need an Anon's edit of Kaissereich.
a218ae No.15291265
>>15290157
Deleted my post since I went to double check it for glaring issues. The PLC immediately decides to become Poland since it doesn't own Minsk. I noticed that before, but never fixed it for some reason. No point downloading something that'll have the AI shit itself immediately in Eastern Europe.
5e6267 No.15291305
I know Victoria. Hearts of Iron III looks pretty familiar, but I suspect that I will put in 40 hours of learning curve before I git gud. Also, unlike Victoria, it looks like HoI III has no way to build new factories.
6aa6f4 No.15291372
>>15291159
It's been years since I've last played Kaiserreich, what would need to be changed?
5e6267 No.15291394
>>15291344
Nice dubs. Yes, I learn video games slowly. Too bad that this offends you.
a218ae No.15291415
>>15291265
Alright. Fixed PLC killing itself. Now, losing Lithuania's capital, Minsk, and Kiev is needed to give up the country with the commonwealth only having Lithuania at the start in order to leave it in a semi-precarious spot. Also fixed Sweden giving up claims on Finland despite owning it by making the requirements either not owning Helsinki, not having Finland as a vassal yourself or it being the vassal of another nation, or by not having it in your sphere.
As such, here's take two of an edit of HFM, Anon's Edits, and Napoleon's Legacy:
Not Tonight Josephine
https://mega.nz/#!STQRVCoJ!kkhsTRVFmS8iOCYSmfOzpgw-Krq23fNJ7A_S22QTA14
Based on a mod that primarily focused on Europe following Napoleon's victory around 1812, I decided to attempt to update this mod with provinces, decisions, and events that have been added in HFM and Anon's stuff to add a bit more flavor alongside the focus on Europe. Spain and the United Kingdom were forced out of their European holdings following the installation of Joseph Boneparte on the Spanish throne a republican uprising in the Isles. As such, Europe focuses on keeping France together in the face of a civil war around 1862 or reuniting the other nations as either pro- or anti-Boneparte flavors. Some neat formable nations include the Federation of the Rhine as an alternative to the NGF and the Teutonic Empire if Prussia decides to expand eastward instead of going for German unification.
As is, this is largely a WIP mod, but it should be playable. Posting it again in order to more or less give others access in case something happens on my end regarding the mod.
526172 No.15291420
>>15291372
It needs to be updated, needs the HFM edits, needs the commie shit removed.
1efedc No.15291450
>>15291415
The UK didnt hold the lands east of the essequibo river until late in the 19th century.
a218ae No.15291495
>>15291450
Yeah, there are several areas that strike me a off regarding the map that I might end up changing. As it is, the map was ported over from Napoleon's Legacy as-is disregarding new provinces, misplaced provinces, and South America. If there aren't any events or decisions that rely on Canada/the British Empire owning that part of Guyana, I may go ahead and remove their ownership of the two provinces, but that'd place them in the hands of Venezuela, who can easily just get absorbed into Gran Colombia since the original mod maker went with it not immediately collapsing following Bolivar's death.
f51111 No.15292190
1efedc No.15293594
>>15291495
>who can easily just get absorbed into Gran Colombia since the original mod maker went with it not immediately collapsing following Bolivar's death.
Well, the grand colombia could have survived if a couple of things hadnt gone horribly wrong, like the assassination of marshall sucre by possible peruvian seccesionist.
a39c56 No.15294320
>>15282617
>source is a homophile jew
Yeah, it's from 'the construction of homosexuality' by (((David F. Greenberg))). The book also says that Christ and the apostles were all sodomites.
233e13 No.15294717
>>15282175
>>15282175
>The kingdom of Aksum was among the most powerful in the ancient world
So was Carthage, and Rome raped the fuck out of them and they went into the dustbin of history. Power doesn't mean jack shit if someone just comes along eventually and wipes all your shit out
233e13 No.15294725
>>15281788
So you're a faggot
3cacc3 No.15295464
>>15288636
If they have it so that the Pope is still part of the fourth crusade, they fucked up big time. Historically, the crusaders were excommunicated, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just ignore this.
1efedc No.15295483
>>15295464
So how would that work?
Crusaders get constantinople liek that just because without byzantines being able to do anythign to stop it?
Because normally the byzantines remain pretty strong although they dont expand much.
91239c No.15295503
Are there any good NonParadox GSG? I dont like seeing a genre dominated by a few developers alone.
5932a0 No.15295545
>>15294725
Putting the well-being of your own folk as your primary objective is somehow equal to being a faggot now?
3cacc3 No.15295586
>>15295483
As I understand, the Byzantines were in the middle of a succession crisis when the events of the Fourth Crusade occurred, so it was easier for the crusaders to conquer them since they were already divided. Not to mention that the empire was also in decline at that point.
In Holy Fury, it seems like the game just generates a pretender to the Byzantine throne, and has an event chain that allows the crusader to press his claims. There's been no rework of how the Byzantine government functions, so it's most likely just going to be a huge crusader army fighting against a huge stable purple blob.
1efedc No.15295607
>>15295586
Well thats fucking retarded.
8d30a4 No.15295695
>what do you call black people that live in trees?
c43a85 No.15295970
>>15295695
>Elysian Empire
wut
1efedc No.15295994
>>15295970
Its a mod where the byzantines pack up their shit and flee from constantinople, they end up in america and you have to settle the land, fight natives and decide over various matters that will affect how the empire changes through time.
43cbf1 No.15296376
What is this shit? Invariably leads to a game over. Odd since I've watched Oregon have an easy time in plenty of my other games.
6b6ba0 No.15296394
>>15281788
>lol i'll lie through my teeth
>You'll believe me now
nah
a73ea7 No.15296400
>>15295994
Sounds fun what's it called?
41f848 No.15296421
>>15296376
Did you release Oregon from the beginning?
43cbf1 No.15296453
>>15296421
Yes, from Hudson's Bay Company.
41f848 No.15296482
>>15296453
Yeah that was a small oversight from my part, should've added an extra condition to the event which triggers after the 1843 migration, disabling Oregon from appearing again if Cascadia already exists. Don't know when I'll be able to fix it, but it won't be soon. I'm in the middle of a big update and won't release it in a while, can't release it either cause it'd break any pre-existing games.
Let me release a quick hotfix so you can reload an earlier save and still be able to play as Cascadia.
41f848 No.15296519
>>15296482
>>15296453
Also the intended course of that event is to wait until ~1843 when Oregon gets released after the Champoeg Meetings; you'll get the option to switch tags while playing as either USA or Hudson's Bay Company. Just to clear any doubts
Here's the hotfix, just reload an earlier save and the event shouldn't show up anymore.
https://mega.nz/#!M8lABYJC!dW7D86todmasRt8kaFbhykbLzO-QIwhYbW3vNG_BKgE
43cbf1 No.15296879
>>15296482
>>15296519
Thanks a lot, m8. Just curious, would releasing by event also have prevented the eternal burger from kicking my shit in?
Also what's with the core on Trinidad? Doesn't seem to actually take effect upon enacting the decision either.
64c206 No.15297875
Does anybody have MEIOU 2.5 on torrent or mega?
Steam downloader doesn't work for some reason.
1efedc No.15297950
41f848 No.15298138
>>15296879
>Thanks a lot, m8. Just curious, would releasing by event also have prevented the eternal burger from kicking my shit in?
No, I gotta make a decision to remove USA's cores a la Texas.
>Also what's with the core on Trinidad?
That's Trinidad in Northern California, also part of the original Cascadia.
>Doesn't seem to actually take effect upon enacting the decision either.
How so?
1463f3 No.15298471
>>15297875
Base:
www.mediafire.com/file/xc3d4aa82x76ffj/M%2526T_v2.50_FullRelease.7z
Patch:
www.mediafire.com/file/r1wrys44uu4j724/v2.50.02FR_Patch.7z
f108c2 No.15298826
>>15295994
shit, man, that sounds great. Too bad EU4 is unplayable to me without MEIOU mechanics
1efedc No.15298870
>>15298826
You should give it a play just for the sake of the "choose your own adventure" thing it has going on, you can end up with a hellenistic republic of sailors trading with vinland or a theocratic orthodox empire evangelizing the americas while dealing with internal schisms and albanians.
64c206 No.15298950
>>15298471
Thanks lad. Here's a mommy for you.
526172 No.15299798
233e13 No.15300968
For someone who's never played CK2, is it worth getting into? I was watching tutorials of it and it's confusing the shit out of me but looks like it would be "fun" if I got it
20a244 No.15301268
>>15299010
bitching cape though
fab1ee No.15301336
>>15300968
its actually very easy in practice, its worth checking out. remember to get the version with all dlcs and to not buy from paradox. ireland and sardinia are good starting locations. if you are hardcore play your first game as georgia
>>15295503
you might try revolution under siege, its honestly quite good but its entirelly focused on war. setting it up takes aeons though
43cbf1 No.15302030
>>15298138
>How so?
Just me being a brainlet expecting the core to be in the Caribbean. Don't worry about it.
f108c2 No.15302334
>>15298870
>albanians
Why the hell would BYZ bring those niggers along on their voyage?
33395d No.15302339
>>15302334
Albanians weren't always niggers. The T*rks really fucked them up.
031ee7 No.15302343
>>15301268
>shitler
>hero
nothing spells hero like entire young generation of dead germans huh?
1efedc No.15302355
>>15302334
They didnt, they literally followed the byzantine fleet and then you have to decide what to do with them.
0e2f1b No.15302357
>>15302343
>being this much of a nigger
>hurr durr hitler totally is the reason for the dead germans, goy!
>couldn't possibly be the kikes who were in control of the US, UK, and USSR who didn't like a nation that wouldn't bow to them
>>>/out/
f108c2 No.15302363
>>15302355
>literal Albanian rapefugees arriving from the sea and asking for gibs
shit, anon, that's nightmare fuel
1efedc No.15302375
>>15302363
Not only that, you also find the norse living up in vinland and they turn into nu-varangians, lots of fun things happen.
031ee7 No.15302387
>>15302357
>it's everyone else's fault
>ignore the fact that shitler was the one who started the wars
>>>/reddit/
52a725 No.15302424
Can any buyfag please upload the latest version of ck2+?
>>15302334
There's a catholic minority there that's still the same before turk rapegenocide.
1efedc No.15302457
>>15302424
Im curius, how do they look like?
Hell, how does an albanian look like?.the only balkan person ive met was a croatian.
233e13 No.15302648
>>15301336
>and to not buy from paradox
I never give those fags shekels, thanks for the incentive, I'm definitely gonna give it a go and just see how long it takes me to get wiped out and learn that way, not sure who to pick though cause I don't wanna be potatoes, and there's so many choices
233e13 No.15302655
>>15302387
>ignore the fact that shitler was the one who started the wars
That would be the U.K actually, do you not remember the U.K declaring War first?
1463f3 No.15302667
1efedc No.15302680
>>15302648
Ireland is tutorial island.
If not, any of the christian kingdoms in iberia on the stanford bridge game start will do.
1efedc No.15302686
>>15302655
Sure, lets forget they were allied to poland beforehand, same as france.
031ee7 No.15302698
>>15302655
I guess invasion of poland never happened according to recent alt right revisions huh
1f9b44 No.15302726
>>15302698
We attacked Poland because poles:
- Attacked Gleiwitz station
- massacred ethnic Germans that stayed in Poland
- Opened Polish Death Camps and started the Holocaust™
031ee7 No.15302746
>>15302726
oh so that's how it happened
b9f9ff No.15302846
I was taught at school that Hitler thought that the invasion of Poland was reclaiming lands for Germany that were confiscated after the Treaty of Versailles. The justification from Hitler's perspective was that those lands originally belonged to Germany and were confiscated unfairly while the people living there were driven away.
6b6ba0 No.15302899
>>15302698
>hurr durr notzeez are the ✡alt-right✡
>hurr durr my nonsensical bullshit is what you believe because i say so
>lol ignore all of history
Reported.
031ee7 No.15302904
>>15302846
That's about right. Hitler also had this notion of ubermensch (germanics) and untermensch (slavs) the latter of which he planned to enslave for menial labor and generally genocide them completely over the years by erasing their identity and bleeding their numbers (by refusing them healthcare). Of course it was convenient of Hitler to leave out the part where the lands he claimed were German had been longer inhabited by Poles than Germans.
6b6ba0 No.15302907
>>15302846
Hitler invaded Poland for two reasons.
1. to stop poles from continuing their GENOCIDE OF GERMANS (at the behest of the ✡british✡ and the ✡polish government✡)
2. because the new ✡polish government✡ rejected Hitler’s call for a plebiscite in the lands stolen from Germany after WWI. A plebiscite. You know, the thing that kikes scream bloody murder about everyone but whites being allowed to have so that they can always get their way? Yeah, that.
6b6ba0 No.15302917
>>15302904
>oy vey i will continue to post jewish lies
>i will continue to say that Germans believed things that only jews believed
>ignore everything Marx said
>ignore everything Trotsky said
>ignore that they are the ones who considered slavs to be subhuman and wanted to (and succeeded in) exterminating tens of millions of them
>ignore that the USSR was both caught (and later admitted to) blaming their own war crimes on the Germans
>once again, ignore all of history
Reported.
031ee7 No.15302930
>>15302917
Ok bro I guess no slavs got deported to be slaves in Germany, forced sterilizations, abortions along with separating mothers from their children (whom later starved in 'special' orphanages) never happened, it's not like Himmler and SS had open plans on genociding slavs while destroying their identity. Those mass executions Germans did to each slavic intelligentsia and higher echelons of society? Nope, never happened. Keep being delusional.
f108c2 No.15302949
>>15302907
Atlantic Charter wasn't a thing before WW2, so Poland had full right to tell Hitler to go wipe his ass with some plebiscite.
>to stop poles from continuing their GENOCIDE OF GERMANS
Got any sources to back that up? Bloody Sunday happened after Germany invaded Poland, not prior to it. Germans were one of the better treated minorities in Poland, having their own political parties and representtives in high positions, only becoming unpopular after Hitler started talking about grabbing Polish clay, using the Germans there as a pretext for it. Even then, however, there were no massacres of Germans in Poland up until the outbreak of the war.
233e13 No.15302964
>>15302949
No offense but you sound like such a faggot kike, Hitler had every right to invade Poland and conquer them, because I hate to be the bearer of bad news, Stalin had the exact same intentions of invading Poland, Hitler just beat him to the punch and the U.K had absolutely no right whatsoever to declare war and it showed because Hitler stomped the shit out of Britain AND France
031ee7 No.15302975
>>15302964
>it's ok to be a shitter because others wanted to be shitters too
>oh my god why are my enemy's allies declaring war against me they shouldn't do that wtf bugged politics
You know for someone who talks shit about the jews all the time, you sure resemble a lot of those stereotypes yourself.
52a725 No.15302979
>>15302457
Nothing special. Like the rest of the balkanites. Most are mutts, but a good portion of them look really white. You can guess which belong to which religious group.
>>15302648
For easiest game play Byzantines in Charlememe start. Quickly blob into Serbia and Bulgaria and move your way up.
>>15302667
Thank you, anon. I don't have pronz so instead have a rare nick
f108c2 No.15303000
>>15302964
>Hitler had every right to invade Poland and conquer them, because Stalin had the exact same intentions
And this is a justification how? The Red Army was in tatters at the start of WW2 (as could be seen during the Winter War), and would never have dared to invade Poland while it was allied with Britain, simply because it'd get steamrolled. Hell, Germany could prove to be the true anti-communist force and send volunteers to defend Poland from Soviet aggression if it wanted to. The only reason why Hitler invaded Poland was because he wanted the clay, and he was fully willing to make the deal with the devil to get it.
031ee7 No.15303010
>>15303000
trips of truth
Also what activates my almonds is that Axis - a supposedly an anti-comintern alliance in conception decided to take a deal with the commies just to destroy basically the only nation to successfully fend of communists in a massive invasion hardly 20 years prior.
6b6ba0 No.15303036
>>15302930
>can’t reply
>nothing but strawmen and reducto ad absurdum
Reported.
>>15302949
>Atlantic Charter wasn’t a thing
We’re not discussing that.
>Poland had full right to tell Hitler to go wipe his ass with some plebiscite.
And Hitler had every right to invade Poland to stop them from committing genocide on the German people.
>Got any sources to back that up?
Yep.
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
https://www.scribd.com/doc/53056883/Hans-Schadewaldt-1940-the-Polish-Atrocitites-Against-the-German-Minority-in-Poland
http://www.danzigfreestate.org/unknownhistory.htm
>Bloody Sunday happened after
Yes, no one said anything about bloody sunday.
>Germans were one of the better treated minorities in Poland
That must’ve been bad for the rest of them, then, seeing as Germans were beaten, tossed out of their houses, had their possessions stolen, and, oh yeah, were exterminated systematically.
>only becoming unpopular after Hitler started talking about grabbing Polish clay
1. Not polish clay.
2. See image and fuck off.
>there were no massacres of Germans in Poland up until the outbreak of the war.
Not even remotely accurate.
031ee7 No.15303051
>>15303036
>calls actual events strawmen and reductio ad absurdium
>his entire post is either german propaganda reinforcing pro-german claims or saying "nope" to everything else
top kek
d14a13 No.15303074
>>15302726
Most important reason though:
Hitler didn't think Britain and France would actually declare war.
f108c2 No.15303106
>>15303036
>source is Hans Schadewaldt, a german national who wrote this in the middle of WW2, in 1940
I'm sorry if I don't take war propaganda at face value. Do you have some actual evidence, like mass graves full of Germans from before September 1 1939? Or at least an account corrobating this who did not have a vested interest in portraying Germans as the victims?
233e13 No.15303503
>>15303000
Clearly you don't know history, Stalin wanted Poland as well
Also
>>15303106
>>15303051
The guy provided you with actual sources and you've provided………zero. Go be a faggot commie over at leftypol you fucking homos and stop derailing the goddamn thread
48d39e No.15303807
>>15302904
>Hitler also had this notion of ubermensch (germanics) and untermensch (slavs) the latter of which he planned to enslave for menial labor and generally genocide them completely over the years by erasing their identity and bleeding their numbers (by refusing them healthcare).
>unironically posting communist propaganda
If he destined slavs for extermination and enslavement, why did he ally Slovakia, Croatia and many other groups when going over the territory of Soviet Union?
Coincidentally the soviets were the ones building their perfect communist system of enslavement of man by the almighty state, perfecting the communist man, transferring entire populations, encouraging rape and destruction of entire ethnic groups via mass starvation or extermination camps.
You should really learn to separate reality from propaganda. Especially with communist one where they intentionally use Freudian psychology to trick your subconscious. And oh do they love projection.
853288 No.15304338
If Hitler was so great why did he lose?
1f9b44 No.15304500
>>15304338
He didn't lose, he was defeated and his Avatar got banished, but he will return and finally end the Kali Yuga.
aa770f No.15304683
>>15302904
The term Untermensch referred to the common Cheka/NKVD thug in the USSR enforcing Communist oppression against the Slavic working class. The modern equivalent would be masked Antifa today - subhumans.
Read the book, Der Untermensch.
41f848 No.15305335
>>15304850
>all those butthurt t*rks
lmao
88dccc No.15306435
>>15303010
It's just politics I guess. NatSoc Germany even stopped volunteers from going to Finland besieged by the Reds to appease Stalin, not to mentiong agreeing for the USSR to annex the Baltic states, eastern Poland and Romanian Basarabia.
f57e56 No.15309151
>>15258058
now that is a map m8
a218ae No.15309937
Can anyone figure out what in the decision may be causing the effects to be ignored in the one on the right? As far as I can tell, in game, the potential section works as seen in the second image, and the allow section works from the third. When trying to find what was fucking with this, I took other decisions that worked for sure and edited one section at a time. It seems like something with the allow portion is causing the effects to be seen with the allow portion, but I can't spot anything wrong with the brackets that would cause that.
1463f3 No.15310033
>>15309937
It's been a while since I last dabbled in the files of a paradox game but the decision looks perfectly fine.
Vanilla's Alaskan purchase doesn't look overly different from it.
Generally I would have said if there is an issue with the effects the cause would be in the fired event.
8c1617 No.15311157
>>15309937
Post the event too.
8c1617 No.15311179
Whoa what kind of obscure historical event could ever occur in such a small and isolated island?
a218ae No.15312021
>>15311157
Event 14680 is the Men for the Colonies or something from vanilla that does either colonial migration or pop growth in a state. Was using it to test since I'd be able to see the province modifier if France took it in order to verify that an event even fired. Tried with other events that should work, including an event I rigged for France that should run after one day, and nothing showed up.
8c1617 No.15313069
>>15312021
try using a triggered-only event. I seriously can't see what's wrong with your decision, seems fine to me, no missing brackets or anything.
c43a85 No.15313593
>>15309937
I think in the allow section you don't need limit = { is_core = CAT }, just use is_core = CAT
limit is when you are in the effects section and have to specify that something is conditional, in the allow/potential section the conditionality is implied.
Dunno if that's the problem though.
>>15312021
I don't think you'd see the province modifier unless you looked in every colony France owned, it's not like your 2nd event targets the core CAT provinces. Just set your first decision to give 10,000 prestige for testing purposes and you'll see if the effects fire properly. Then you can figure out what you want the triggered event to do.
a218ae No.15313739
>>15313593
>>15313069
Thanks for the help, but even changing it to a triggered-only event or going rid of the limit portion didn't allow it to work. Just ended up making a low-effort decision about Normandy to just see what I could add before it broke. Was able to transfer provinces and causes events as I was wanting to in the actual one despite it effectively being the same.
Only issue I'm still getting is that it now seems like the old decision won't show up anymore, but that may have been from the extra bracket I just noticed under the test decision.
a218ae No.15313866
>>15313593
Guess I'm fucking retarded. After removing that spare bracket from testing, the limit = { is_core = CAT } bit does seem to have been the issue, and I even got rid of it in the fucking Normandy one to test. Here's to wasting hours with that Catalonia decision without bothering to remove the limit and see what happened.
8c1617 No.15314171
>>15313866
Next time post the raw code here so we can test it ourselves too.
a218ae No.15314253
>>15314171
Yeah. Just figured I did something extremely obvious or that there wouldn't be responses in the thread at page 13.
c43a85 No.15314805
>>15313866
Yeah, there's a bunch of weird shit you can get into accidentally when messing with scopes and conditionals. You either need a thorough understanding of the logic & programming or resign yourself to always doing a binary search to figure out which line is the problem. And even if you think you know your shit you'll probably need a binary search anyway.
BTW, you're using Notepad++? Switch your language to C++ (or any language really), this will make it a lot easier to track brackets
6a632c No.15314853