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rumored to have been a different game entirely until itsuno took over as director half way through. from there he either ruined or possibly saved it from being even worse. hard to say. seems like nobody really wants to take reponsibility for it so a lot of the ire gets directed at itsuno.

Just skip it and play 3 instead.

>>15188385

I'd say just finish it but rush to 3 as soon as possible.

I beat the game earlier this month and I completely agree.

The entire game is also a joke if you consistently use devil trigger, which puts the game from piss easy to little baby mode.

>>15188394

All of the DMCs matter and you have to play ALL of them DmC DMC does not exist to get the full dmc experince.

Also remember that dmc5 takes place after dmc2.

The most fun you will have with this game is just playing through the Lucia disc on normal mode and imagining that it's some generic PS2 action game that doesn't have Devil May Cry in the title. I played it a load of times recently and that was enough to make me never want to play it again. Probably the fundamental problem once you get up to Must Die is that you can tell they just didn't give a shit about being able to consistently avoid damage at all, which is why enemy attacks still deal only a pixel of damage on the highest difficulty. It makes things completely trivial until you run into some mindbogglingly stupid situation like the Tateobesu fight, and even then it's only difficult because the dev team was fundamentally incompetent.

You really may as well finish it just for the experience, and it's not like it's a particularly long game, you could have finished it by the time I was done with this post probably.

>Aside from the new fluid movement and dodging system

"Fluid" is probably the last word I'd use to describe anything in DMC2, and the dodges are practically ruined by the way they briefly softlock you to directional inputs like every other attack in the game.

It's bad… Really bad. Should have been cancelled. Maybe watch the anime at the same time? They both suck I think. Moody Dante is worst Dante.

it get's slightly better when you realize that there are no pause combos, rather combos are branched off when you move the stick.

While it has allot wrong with it, it was in the end necessary, since you can see the beginnings of DMC3 in the game, and you know they learned allot of what not to do.

apparently by the time Itsuno was shoved onto the team to fix it, pretty much nothing was actually made, and they had to rush everything in 6 months.

I can't imagine how I managed to stomach playing through BOTH DISCS of this fucking game when I was a kid, but I did. At the very least, it has some pretty cool atmosphere. I like how the bad guy has this enormous fucking tower, I always thought that was cool.

>>15188396

>The entire game is also a joke if you consistently use devil trigger, which puts the game from piss easy to little baby mode.

Yeah, I've noticed, there doesn't seem to be a penalty for toggling devil trigger like the first game had. Also the "difficulty" in the bosses is their high amount of health, so devil trigger negates that and makes them incredibly easy.

it's pretty simple - the Crapcom execs never even told Kamiya they were making a sequel until it was practically being released. the first game being so fucking awesome apparently triggered them to decide that going with someone that had zero experience with the series was necessary for greater success

>>15188560

>there doesn't seem to be a penalty for toggling devil trigger like the first game had

There's a brief cooldown so that you can't rapidly activate and deactivate it, but that wouldn't be useful anyway since it's essentially a mana bar instead of a timer now. Your DT will only really deplete if you're using DT moves, it depletes incredibly slowly if you're just running around.

Okay niggers, which is worse: DMC2 or DmC DMC?

>>15188581

DMC

>post DMC instead of DmC

Well fuck me.

>>15188603

I'm hoping 5 doesn't even mention that the remake exists.

>>15188620

Agreed, i'v heard people say they want a black wig joke or something of the like, but i'd rather the real DMC not stoop to DmC's lows, I just want it to be forgotten.

besides after DMC5 was shown there was an artical writen about how Capcom threw the reboot under the bus, (which they didn't) but someone from Capcom on twitter still went though the effort of going "that wasn't our intention, we don't hate the reboot"

So I doubt they going to pull any jokes at the reboots expense .

>>15188638

you are confusing an overlay graphic with an actual subtitle to a game. think about that for a little bit before you post again

Only fun I had with it was running the Bloody Palace.

Unlock Trish and then you'll have fun.

A lot of people blame 9/11 and in turn the jews.

>>15189113

You are confusing a joke with an actual statement of fact. Think about that a little bit before you post again.

>>15188353

Crapcom is a shitty company. That is what happened. Every single first success in all of Crapcom's history were all made by teams that the company did not pay attention to. As soon as any team's game became a surprise success, Crapcom's higher ups started to meddle and ruin everything.

You can see this pattern in every single successful game made by the company.

Crapcom's higher ups are a bunch of old men nearing dementia, with a "groupie-like" mindset that just want to add clothing brands and shitty celebs to their games, while interfering in the production with their shit taste and ruining every single franchise that they notice.

>>15188353

melee attacks replaced the delay with stick movement i think and guns are fuggen op but they dont have the intricacies like grenade rolling or shotgun twitching that makes it fun to use

I reinstalled DMC3 but for some reason I'm getting really dodgy framerate. Should I just go emulate it instead?

>>15188407

DmC DMC does exist, it's just not a DMC game.

DMC might be one of the few franchises that is revered but the fans tell you to skip playing half the games because they are shit.

>>15188353

I actually enjoyed the helicopter fight

>>15188407

>dmc5 takes place after dmc2

Pardon?

>>15190912

He is just a retard pretending DMC2 is canon, when the devs said 5 takes place after 4 and made zero references to 2

>>15190367

there are only 4 DMC games and the only one you should skip is 2 or you could play it just to see how bad it is. DMC 1 still holds up well and its amazing that how good it is that 2 is just so shit

>>15188407

>>15190912

>>15190932

They made no mention of DMC2 for obvious reasons, but seeing Dante on that motorcycle is very reminiscent of how DMC2 ended, it's certainly possible it's after DMC2, and I'd really like to see Lucia in a better game, but it's likely they'll just continue to ignore the game's existence.

>>15190962

>Mark is even less human.

Mark is twice the human anyone else is because of all the cake he eats.

>>15191049

>Eating the sugary Jew

In Mark's case, that's cannibalism.

You know what's gay? Metafags. You know what I mean, the faggots who don't think for themselves so much as they follow a guide in order to achieve what is considered to be the most optimal character build or strategy they can use. Metafags are gay because they just parrot the opinion of some other faggot instead of thinking about all the game's possibilities before deciding on a certain approach or playstyle.

In the same way, a prevailing opinion is sort of like an "optimal build" that fags just parrot every time the game in question is brought up. It's gay because half the people who want to talk about the game just spout the same bullshit opinion and hope that they can pass themselves off as intimately knowledgeable on the game in question.

The point is, the most common opinions, like "hurr DMC2 is a shit game" and "hurr everything past Anor Londo is shit" are just shitty metafag opinions that may or may not have a basis in reality, but certainly do nothing to further the discussion on the subject of whether or not the game is actually good, or what could've been done to improve it, etc.

>>15191088

DMC2 is beyond saving though, they should have built on from what 1 did rather than completely changing everything. I played the first few missions of DMC 3, and that seems to me what DMC 2 should have been, it fixes the problems the first game had while adding enough new things to still feel fresh. DMC is an action series where every battle feels important and you're encouraged to play stylishly to get better combos, DMC 2 does none of this, which is why I think >>15188385 is right and that it was supposed to be a different game entirely.

>>15188603

I actually enjoyed DmC for what it was as a guilty pleasure. Sure it is unequivocally a trash Devil May Cry game that shits all over the fan-base but its a competent compared to other (non Hideki Kamiya) beat em ups and far better than God of War. Plus I sorta enjoy a developer that takes a dump on the fans just because of the ensuing trainwreck is fun to watch.

Its the Dark Souls II of character action games.

>>15195623

dark souls 2 isnt THAT much of a train wreck as DMC 2

>>15195644

I think it works as a comparison.

>Both the sequel to a landmark game that got a lot of press and acclaim

>Both went through development hell

>Both were disappointing

>Both had directors change midway through

>>15196398

>Third playable character

Are they stretching themselves too thin?

>>15196447

I don't think so, this game has had the longest Development time out of every DMC game.

They've been working on the game since form at least the release of DMC4SE, so it's been 3 years already.

>>15196398

>Nell Goldstein

>Goldstein

Is this a joke?

>>15196491

Nell Goldstein was a character in the DMC1 novel from 2001, she was the one who made Dante Ebony and Ivory.

>>15188353

>using guns is boring (and you can easily kill any enemy with just the handguns)

That's Lady mode

>>15196491

bit slow on the uptake aren't you?

>What the hell went wrong with this game?

absolute development hell. I think you can find interviews and videos regarding it anywhere now. The game was all over the place for months in development and nothing got done and then capcom through itsuno at it in the last few months of development to try to salvage it. There's an interview somewhere claiming they were fucking with the animation for Stinger for months

>>15196447

Hopefully not, it has been a long time in development. I'm assuming three main playable character with proper new moves, cutscenes and levels, yet Vergil, Trish and Lady will still be there, just ported over from DMC4.

>>15196501

It's still a kike, which makes the whole game shit.

What is the deal with rolling?

It feels like the most unreliable part of fighting and it's really flaky whether I roll, or jump because dante was turned a few degrees to far left or right, or because locking on caused dante to turn and change orientation completely, or any other myriad of things that can cause a roll to turn into a jump. Am I just not meant to use it?

>>15189198

Welcome to H8chan. Now kill yourself, faggot.

>>15200100

Dante has i-frames in mid-air from jumping right? I don't remember struggling too bad with the rolling, controller issue maybe?

>>15200763

I'm playing with a keyboard, but it's not really input (I had the same issue emulating PS2 using a controller), it's just the control scheme itself. I'm talking about DMC3 if it changes anything, because I dont recall there being anything like iframes on jumps.

>>15203936

All games have given i-frames at the start of the jump, yes, including DMC3. Use Trickster style if you can't roll or jump consistently at the beginning, or try Guard-rolling if you want to show off.