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More like a job than a game. I don't understand how anyone enjoys this.

>>15157386

i just binge it for a few weeks then take a break. its nice to mindlessly grind sometimes because it takes no effort and you can listen to music/watch other things whilst doing it

>>15157415

>le reddit turn your brain off meme

You're not helping.

>>15157386

Never played an MMO before?

>>15157447

Nobody is pretending that Warframe is anything but a grind

>>15157447

>reddit this reddit that

scum

>>15157466

I played for 70 hours before I had to stop.

Took a long break and tried to play again.

Couldnt make it another hour in the game.

Taking an even longer break atm.

Dont even remember the last time I played which was definetly over a year or two ago

>>15157466

>>grinding is fun

what actually gave you this impression

you think people are playing this game for fun?

>>15157466

dedication

>>15157490

Because the gameplay, as in the movement and the shooting are pretty good, and there's a decent amount of both weapon and character variety.

>>15157490

It makes me feel like a space ninja and a space jew if you know how to work the markets

>>15157500

>>15157505

Whatever you might imply there fagets?

>>15157517

Oh, shit, sorry, wait,

GAME GOOD BECAUSE IT FUN TO SHOOT LOTS OF GUNS AT LOTS OF BAD GUYS AND MOVE

>>15157530

Oh shit nigger, you really got me right there with your big boy arguments.

>>15157466

>just for grinding

I like it because of the frame and weapon designs, the grind is a necessary evil to be able to have a lot of different weapons to dick around with. I get that you're trying to be contrarian but at least come up with something more than "it' shit because I say it's shit."

Trust me: there's a lot to shit on the game for.

>>15157562

This happens every thread. It's best to not respond to them. Everyone on this board who plays this game knows what's shit about it already. Trying to tell us it's shit is pointless, and the contrarian shitposters have already formed their opinion so talking with them is pointless. It's just tedious to read.

Then again I suppose the back and forth does help people interested in the game form a consensus if they happen to stumble in here.

Now that mega baro is gone I don't know what to do. Yes, I have the focus tree to grind, a couple frames I want to go for, and cetus reputation, but I want a point to it.

>>15157718

There is no point to it. Every time you finish another category you will only feel even emptier rather than satisfied. I got all the frames and their primes and then quit because the game is a disaster of design.

>>15157616

>spoiler

it's purrfuct uwu

>>15157762

Just do a fissure for forma.

>>15157798

>>15157804

But fissures just give me more blueprints and it's not like I can multicraft

>>15157811

Ah, sorry I didn't know you could get completed Forma from the music puzzle. I guess your only recourse is to focus on other things and let Formas stay on the backburner.

Actually you could be top Jew, earn some plat, and just buy the 3 Forma bundle for 35 plat each.

>>15157861

Yea I should probably focus on earning some plat but trading is my least favorite thing in the game. I could also farm some endo I suppose

>>15157865

Every time I make 10+ relics radiant and I just end up getting it from another player at some later time, trying to get valkyr prime systems at the moment but I never even see other people with a V relic equipped.

>>15157811

Just play once and farm a shitload of fissures for forma BPs, then once you have like 20, start making one a day. For a while I didnt even play the game, I just

>logged in, claimed reward

>checked alerts for any weapon parts

>claimed forma, started a new one

>closed game

>>15157940

>animu face

>>15157940

Do you have any of Liger's art? :^)

>>15158019

>that first pic

It still pisses me off that before Mynki was fired he got the designer of that skin fired becuase he tried to inject the faggy ember chicken meme into it.

>playing it with my son who told me I should try it

>not bad, even if it's sometimes ridiculous

>he quits to play something else with his buds

>I decide to play one more mission

>my plain white ship is flying in loading screen…with two other multi hued ships

>level starts and two unknown degenerates take off running while I'm just standing there dumbfounded that these fags were able to join me without my permission

>hear the sounds of slaughter in the distance as they efficiently rob me of the pleasure of stealthily shooting the enemy in the back of their heads with arrows

>quit without moving an inch

>>15158036

If you're too fucking stupid to turn off public matchmaking, I'm glad you quit.

Fortuna better let you join a workers revolution and murder corprus bourgeoisie

>>15158019

I was joking, Liger draws gay porn. He's behind Nezha's recent skin that gives him a huge bulge.

>>15158073

> the only way I like Nezha is when he looks like a girl.

So you like him constantly?

Noah?

>>15158095

Which one? Also note that on the first pic the changed version is on the right. Again not much of a difference but enough of one.

>>15158085

>We will never get a decent ember helmet

Only one I dont hate is the ember prime helmet but thats more of a long term goal once I jewed enough plat.

>>15158115

Speaking of helmets, I have TWO vanilla volt helmets for some reason (I don't have Volt Prime.)

>>15158117

Something seems amiss.

>>15158132

Did you build him twice or something?

>>15158141

I sold the old one I had when I was playing like 2 years ago (then quit), then I decided to build a new one since he works well for Eidolons, but is not the first frame I rebuild.

>>15158085

>This design needs a big stupid fucking horn

Why?

I tried getting back into this on PC after putting hundreds of hours into it on PS4 and I'm already burnt out. Any of the frames or weapons I actually want to use are locked behind at least a 60 hour grind and I just don't have the patience for this shit anymore.

>>15158132

Tits are flat and rounded instead of pointed, missing the aux cables going to the chest walkman, and the stomach has muscle definition instead of a flat cloth. Looking at the concept reminds me of a chinese/japanese dress, the model just looks weird

>>15158085

Don't like either of those Ember skins, but Mag, Trinity, Frost, and Ash are pretty top-tier.

>Braton Prime 32p

>Overextended 25p

>Blind Rage 20p

>Akbolto Prime 125p

niggers in the trade chat try to gouge you more than those faggots on warframe.market.

>>15158964

W.M isnt as expensive as people make it out to be. If youre flipping things take quite a while to make any kind of profit but the average on everything is miles better on W.M than ingame trade. Some faggot in some thread claiming he got price x for whatever doesnt determine market value and w.m has leveled down absolutely everything.

>>15157523

WHOA, BIDEO GAEMS!

Is this game actually good? I was thinking of trying it out, but it looks weird.

>>15159390

Good luck with your mod farming anon. Hope you have Nekros.

>>15159390

Rolling

>Do a shitload of fissures

>its_shekel_time.jpg

>All the things are 1-2 platinum, maximum was 6

Is this shit even worth selling on the .market or i just shouldnt bother and sell it all for ducats?

>>15159388

It's hard to say. I like the gameplay but the actual content leaves much to be desired. You have a cool toolkit to play with, but the things you do with it are pretty uninspired. The gameplay is really good. Imagine if Platinum made Destiny instead of Activision.

>>15159401

Either hold onto it or sell it for ducats.

>>15159388

its a love it or hate it kind of game. if you do try it out then make sure to keep the wiki open at all times so you actually know where to get shit you need. im sure some anons will help you out with starter mods depending on your platform

>>15159401

Sell full sets

>>15159401

Warframe sets, stance mods like Crimson Dervish, acolyte mods you know the one I'm talking about, rivens, and corrupted mods sell well. Due to the weapons overhaul many players who would be interested in Prime weapon sets are too low MR to buy it, so a whole section of the market is gone, thus lower prices and a slower sell rate.

If you're okay with grinding the plains, people will always snap up Radian Sentrium and Heart Nyth, you can sell it for 5-10 plat per gem.

>>15159436

Fuck, I just got done doing that.

>>15159462

I want to fuck it

>>15159462

No that helmet is way too busy and it doesn't change that shitty chickenskin at all.

>>15159469

That's Warframe in a nutshell.

>>15159484

Oops, the sound is broken on your webm there.

>>15159540

That Nezha skin still pisses me off.

I don't care about gay art or anything like that, but when you add a character with a slim slim waist, toned ass and huge bulge it feels fucking forced.

>>15159588

so remove most of the male frames in the game?

you do understand girls (female(female)) play warframe too

>>15159593

>"girls"

Trannies don't count, you know.

Nezha was faggy enough before we had a literal gay porn artist hop on this. Like it's not even subtle, it's just THERE.

>>15159593

Nezha is a little androgynous hatsune miku motherfucker

That skin is Big Gay

It doesn't fit in the slightest

>>15159593

Don't act fucking dense, anon.

He's not designed to be attractive to women, he's designed to be attractive to gay men.

>>15159434

Also, if you ever get Gladiator Vice, that reward in particular sells upwards of 50 plat each on the lower end, late at night the lowest prices on warframe.market tend to shoot up to 80-100.

>>15159607

There is this thing among certain gay men sectors in which liking femboys is frowned upon, that is, apparently gay men should be attracted to manly men.

>>15159607

this >>15159629

also, lots of women are attracted to the same things that some gay men are

>>15159629

>that

>femboy

>>15159629

>>15159632

Guys, he was literally designed by a gay porn artist.

You can't brush over that no matter how hard you try.

>>15159640

Is the closest to a femboy you can get in Warframe, remember, you can even get banned from the chat for saying Nezha is a trap.

>>15159646

You mean the DX skin? yes, that's what I meant, the notion that gay men like manly men is actually the majority among them, not the opposite.

>>15159650

>the notion that gay men like manly men is actually the majority among them

I'm going to say that's pure bullshit.

My city has huge pride parades, the kind of guys you see there aren't bears.

>>15159647

A bogstandard masculine body is not a femboy. It's just a guy. Also the artist favors masculine figures anyways so this is right up his alley.

>>15159650

Gay anon here.

I'm not sure where you heard this, but it's not true. Twinks are very much extremely popular in gay circles. It's usually cute guys who like big burly men.

>>15159656

Are they super effeminate them? because it is usually not even close to that.

>>15159659

Exactly.

Arguing with war cucks is pointless. They are addicts. And addicts will do anything to justify an addiction.

>>15159692

I play this game for a couple weeks a year because it's easy to get burned out

You're just retarded

Hit mastery Rank 3 yesterday

Which Syndicate has the best items?

Also how does one raise mastery points?

Finally how do I properly Synthesize enemies for the library?

please respond

>>15159536

All limbo mains have go back to the void and stay there

>>15159742

You can get 4 syndicates maxed instead of the usual three if you pick arbiters of hexis, cephalon suda and steel meridian. rank up steel meridian last so you rank up red veil alongside it. you raise mastery points by using new weapons and warframes and getting them to level 30. do NOT sell any weapon or frame that has not been leveled to 30 (mastered) at least once. you do not gain more mastery rating from using forma on it. go to any relay and to the second floor where cephalon simaris (yellow ordis) is and get some synthesis scanners from him. hold q in a mission and equip the scanner to add enemies to your codex/simulacrum

>>15159746

NO FUCK YOU NIGGER LIMBO IS ONE OF THE BEST FRAMES THERE IS FITE ME FGT

>>15159742

Browse the frames for the ones youd want and then look up which Syndi has the augments. You can max 4 syndis at a time so keep that in mind.

Use new shit.

With the synthesizer, duh.

>>15159602

>>15159605

>>15159607

nidus has heels and a fucking pitched tent yet the nezha skin is too far because it was done by dude that draws gay porn? what kind of warped mindset do you all have? do you avoid hentai comics because it was drawn by a girl too or it doesnt work like that. i would like to know your logic here.

>>15159787

>the nezha skin is too far because it was done by dude that draws gay porn?

No, it's too far because it looks like shit

>>15159797

its looks like nezha's original depiction though just more masculine and mechanized. did you want a twink skin or something?

>>15159816

Yes, if possible, I wanted something that actually looked like a nezha skin

Though I would have settled for something that looked good, instead

Big bara chinese spandex man is neither

>>15159767

thanks, should I wear the sigils of 2 diffent syndicates or just focus on each one seperately?

>>15159776

>With the synthesizer, duh

whenever I launch a mission the computer tells me my target is there I take a snap with the synthesizer, later when I head back to the library it shows that I didn't do it since the challenge wasn't updated, what the fuck am I doing wrong or is this game just a buggy mess?

>>15159816

Have you seen how Nezha looks in some cartoons?

>>15159848

You probably dont synth him but codex-scan the target. There are two scanners with the synth one being sold by Simaris. You can drop the codex scanner once you aquire the synth, the one you need.

>>15159848

you can only wear 1 syndicate sigil at a time so it doesnt really matter if you start off with suda or arbiters, since you will get the worst rep with red veil (corrupt) in the end anyway. as you start to focus on steel meridian then red veil will rise alongside it. just make sure you keep an eye on red veil rep if you go back to farm some rep with arbiters/suda after youve maxed out red veil as well so you dont go down ranks

>>15159898

>>15159848

Keep in mind you only have to sacrifice items for syndi upgrades once, so if you drop down a tier dont worry, you can upgrade at your leasure without costs.

>>15159767

>not having loka, perrin, red veil and steel meridian maxed out

smh tbh

>>15159904

i actually didnt know that, thanks anon

>>15159935

>spending potatos just to slowly rank up clem meme

you are a fool

What are the best syndicate items to sell for plat? augments usually seem to go by 10-15p but what about weapons?

>>15159772

Limbo is a pure defensive frame in a game where defense is only needed if you're bad. "Limbo mains" announce to the world that they are terrible.

>>15160096

what about fun anon

>>15160104

There is no fun with Limbo. Hes terrible, you are terrible, just be wrong where you are and stay there.

>>15159627

I've sold a Condition Overload for 100 plat during late night hours. I don't like gouging people but if someone's willing to pay more then I'm not going to say no.

>>15160098

>wanting literal trash that is the grineer

Shes an ugly cunt and will probably die soon, and given that the Grineer is a matriarchy getting with her would be like dating a red haired feminist. New "Reich" Loka and her pure as fuck dick sucking lips is where its at.

>>15160131

Whys the Grineer a Matriarchy ?

>>15160140

The queens.

>>15160112

I don't even HAVE limbo, but I'm just objecting to the previous poster's "only the best things are worth using" mindset

>>15160148

That just makes them a female led monarchy. Matriarchy means all around female rule. The Grineer have a council which sports males and male generals.

>>15160149

Limbo is not "not the best" but straight but shit.

>>15160160

>>15160148

>>15160140

Both the queens and the fact that females are treated in much higher standing than males. The lowest males become butchers, while the lowest females get to be Scorpians who have better equipment, and most of the officers are female.

I've been an Oberon main since I've started playing Warframe and I can agree with the anti-meta mentality. Not everything has to be the best to be enjoyable. The problem I have with limbo is that he's lost his fun factor. He can't nuke like he used to and he can't go full DIOframe post rework for better or worse, I enjoyed Stasis in solo but never used it while in a squad. He has a useful kit regarding defense missions sortie especially and can act as a niche Eidolon hunter but he's like a lot of underutilized frames in that he's outclassed by other more popular or accessible warframes.

How's Octavia? I'm building her right now.

>>15160206

You can literally kill without firing a single shot or swinging your melee.

>>15160191

>>15160160

yeah I'm not really disagreeing that limbo is bad (although I think he's fine in lots of mission types, like capture or spy), I just think it's fine if people play whatever they want, even if it's shit, because this game is piss easy even at the highest levels

I will say that limbo is the only frame which can actively make the game less fun for other players so a bad limbo (or a troll limbo) is the worst thing, but I don't have a problem with people who want to play limbo on principle

>>15160175

Youre pulling stuff outa your arse. Simply saying "both queens" still doesnt form any argument whatsoever and female grineer arent treated better. Just because you dont see female slaves doesnt mean they dont exist neither does the small sample size of grunts we see elaborate on anything. Where the fuck youre getting all those female officers from is also a mystery. You just cant stomach being wrong so youre claiming bullshit to validate your invalid point.

>>15160254

>limbo is the only frame which can actively make the game less fun for other players

There you go buddy.

>>15160254

Every single one of limbo's abilities involves the rift

Even his fucking roll leaves a portal behind

There is no such thing as a good limbo if they are doing literally anything other than using their weapons

>>15159698

Case in point. This is a developer who has shown time and again they don't deserve your time or money but you still justify playing. Fuck. Off.

>>15160291

the rift makes you immune to damage and regenerate energy, banishing allies who are under heavy fire, or in downtime (waiting for mobile defense objectives etc) isn't detrimental

>>15160279

He's not. I'm pretty sure the codex entries and such explicitly say that women are treated better by the twin queens, and being led by female leaders quite literally makes it a matriarchy.

>>15160303

>Fuck. Off.

For playing the game the thread is about. lmao

>>15160303

I play because it's occasionally fun, and I don't give them money

Kill yourself you goddamn retard

>>15160309

Banishing me at any point on purpose or not is fucking annoying and any limbo who does it is a nigger

>>15160332

Dude, just press shift.

>>15160332

>Banishing me at any point on purpose or not is fucking annoying and any limbo who does it is a nigger

t. that saryn running fotm braap build who bitches at trinity for not casting EV enough

>banish

>deals damage and knocks foes down

>stasis

>freezes foes for a duration of time

>rift surge

>killing rifted enemies transfers rift status to unaffected enemies

>cataclysm

>creates a huge sphere of void energy that encompasses foes

>while in the rift, players will regenerate energy and can also regenerate health

>can use banish while in the rift much like Nekros' Soul Punch but with a knockdown effect

>While in the rift, Limbo is immune from damage, can use this to give teammates risk-free revives

Limbo is great for defense missions, excavations, and survivals. You're fags who take it up the ass if you don't realize this.

>>15160352

ye, well-played limbo is certainly a credit to any team

I think most people just have bad experiences with shitty limbos who hit 4 and then 2 and then do nothing else

DURR FUCK YOU LIMBO is just an example of nigger-tier binary thinking

One of the main things I really want to see in Warframe is sortie-tier content. Not "cool rewards like from sorties", but the kind of content that imposes various challenges, and ups the level of enemies on otherwise weaker content to fairly difficult levels. Some of the most fun I've had in Warframe were from sortie missions - a Vay Hek assassination mission was the third sortie mission, and holy fuck was it difficult, but also surprisingly fun.

I think the best way to implement this would be "Elite missions" for every planet. They'd be level 80+ content across the board - and to access them, you'd need to unlock every node for that system. In turn, the content rewards would be normalized (and generally superior to the regular missions). Furthermore, maybe keep the idea of random "conditions" from sortie missions that reset every hour or so. Even better if there's two conditions at once, so it'll usually feel different every time.

This would mean less OP demigods surging through content with newbies who are just trying to unlock nodes (as they have better options available), and it would also give more "endgame" content to the higher ranked players.

>>15160315

>I'm pretty sure the codex entries and such explicitly say that women are treated better by the twin queens

No it doesnt.

>I'm pretty sure the codex entries and such explicitly say that women are treated better by the twin queens

No it doesnt. Was England under Queen Elizabeth a matriarchy?

Really I think we can all agree any frame that kills everything around it just by pressing a button is cancer and makes the game less fun for everyone by turning it into AFKframe. This includes Banshee, Ember, Octavia, and a good couple of others.

>>15160376

fuck I need to go to bed.

>>15160315

>and being led by female leaders quite literally makes it a matriarchy.

>No it doesnt. Was England under Queen Elizabeth a matriarchy?

>>15160339

>Making me do work to cancel your dumb garbage

>>15160352

>Large groups of enemies that you can't kill unless you get the nigger to send you to the shadow realm too

>Big ass faggot dome blocking sight lines and forcing you to go in to kill enemies inside, or through it to kill enemies on the other side

He's worse than frost

The best mission type for him is excavation since he can fuck off to another objective and leave people alone

>>15157477

>being perturbed by a less than positive response to a game you like

>>15160382

Agreed. I always laugh when niggers chimp out that their ez frames get nerfed. Especially when 'tards got too used to the insane easy mode that was Valkyr when they turned Hysteria into a toggle, and then they realized "oh shit this is too easy" and ramped up the energy drain over time. Suddenly you had faggots coming out of the woodwork saying she's "unusable".

>>15160398

I wish they would nerf Trinity into the ground but I think they're legitimately afraid of the tard rage that would cause from all the fake gamer grrl healsluts that can't actually do anything else

>>15160409

Trinity's a shit healer tbh, they're much better as energy sluts. Nerfing EV Trinity would be hilarious and honestly fix one of the most broken things in the game, but you're right - the tard rage would be immeasurable.

>>15160370

Endgame content has always been Warframe's Achilles Heel. If you've finished grinding Eidolons for Arcanes and have the Vandals and Peculiar mods from Sanctuary Onslaught there's no reason for a veteran to keep logging in outside of daily rewards and sorties. Even then sorties can easily be solo'd by any competent player sortie spy is usually better this way tbh and all you have to do to get a daily is log in for a few seconds and fuck off.

I'd be happy with some kind of re-introduction of raids that weren't a bug riddled mess. Now that Arcanes are Eidolon loot, there would have to be some new incentive to draw veterans back into the game beyond "more powerful loot".

>>15160376

>Was England under Queen Elizabeth a matriarchy?

Yes, and the grinder have only ever been ruled by the orokangz and queens post rebellion. They are a matriarchy.

>>15160397

>being perturbed by a less than negative thread for a game you don't like

>>15160409

Why nerf Trinity? The only thing she has going for her is being nigh unkillable, but otherwise she sucks, even for support. I'd know, I play her quite often.

I spam EV all the damn time and everyone STILL insists in using their weapons only, despite the fact they could put up a fucking light show the entire time.

Her 1 is just annoying, especially for the "I gotta kill extremely fast!" crowd, and it's not like anyone has problems with health.

Her 3 is usefull for her alone, it's a pretty cool ability but not really what you think when considering "support".

Her 4 is nice if there was more oportunities to be used, because everyone is always topped anyway, and if they aren't, they usually have their own ways to heal up or just get orbs.

I like her a lot, I like using 2 and 3 with a sprinkle of 4 to never die and tank like a motherfucker, which feels more like her role than actually healing. Haven't tried it, but apparently Oberon does a better job at healing, as well as Equinox too since their abilities are far more straightforward for your companions to take advantage off.

>>15160415

Blessing Trin can be useful but requires some micromanaging whereas EV Trin is kinda braindead. Oberon is in many ways a better healer due to his heal-over-time with Renewal. He can even give a party-wide poor man's Defy with that ability's augment mod. Bless Trin does have damage reduction on her side for usefulness, but even then Harrow and Limbo can provide total invincibility, healing, and energy regen with their kit.

She can strip armor with Ablating Link but Oberon can do that without augment mods and Khora's Venari can use kavat armor stripping mods, so another point against Trin.

Well of Life is never built towards because it's an awful ability. It's only useful when shitposting with a Saryn in ESO.

>>15160423

I think plain old hand-crafted content that's just fucking hard is a great way to go. The point isn't necessarily to have "more stuff to grind for", but something that's just fucking challenging to test what you have acquired.

Another way to go is to have long-term "campaign" style missions which demand some degree of tactics and planning from the player for some long term shit. I don't know how EXACTLY they could accomplish this, but the idea would be like going through the starchart under specific restrictions. Like a melee-only run, etc. Obviously you wouldn't need to play this all the way through, but could jump in and out of a "campaign" at will to break up the tension.

>>15160436

Oberon is a fantastic healer/support, by simple virtue of being able to cure status effects with his 2. That shit's a godsend in high level infested missions, or when dealing with faggot noxes.

>>15160435

>Yes

No. Matriarchy and Patriarchy both refer to the rule of the individual dynasty and distribution of the inheritance, not the sex of the countries ruler. There was never a time in Englands or Europes history in general when women were the natural leaders of their dynasties and also women could never directly bequest, only under strict circumstances.

Uneducated faggots.

>>15160479

This. It'd be a bit more compelling to say the Grineer are a matriarchy because all of their officers/higher ups (sans maybe a few brutes) were female, but they're not. Most are still male - Tyl Regor, Vay Hek, Vor, etc. The only aspect that's "matriarchal" is the Queens, but that still doesn't mean shit if the female-centric aspect doesn't also run down the chain of command.

>>15160250

Named characters are exceptions to the rule they want.

Kind of like how we all know AIDS Skrillex, MovieSlob, and Density more than the feminists they white knight for.

>>15160451

>I think plain old hand-crafted content that's just fucking hard is a great way to go

I can agree with that, if anything it would incentivize newer players to git gud because it would serve as something to grind towards instead of for. The veterans will enjoy it because it will push their minmaxed builds to the limit.

The issue with this idea is that DE can't into difficulty beyond "has more health, deals more damage." Challenging, tactical fights would be the best implementation of this kind of content and enemy AI would need to be improved. The Grineer should be squad based, with many squads coordinating to take you down. The Corpus should have an avoidant AI, sending out robots to deal with you instead of the crewmen themselves. The Infested should remain much as they are now but should reserve their more intelligent and powerful units for the "raid" tier fights, they're hivemind zombies after all.

I'd also like to see areas beyond Lua and the Plains where Sentients are more common, hopefully we'll get that with The New War.

>>15160494

Technically, the case of the notable Grineer males in command positions is similar to the position that Queen Elizabeth is in. Sure, they are leaders, but they weren't picked because of merit and would have been passed up if they weren't the only people who could do their fucking jobs.

Funnily enough, the only way a "matriarchal" society can even survive is it doesn't actively prevent the men from doing the things necessary to keep shit functioning. Which still isn't adequate when faced with a Patriarchal opponent.

>>15160506

The AI is certainly the weakest point in Warframe. Honestly, I wish they'd do a total overhaul of the visuals and general behavior for enemies in the game. Too many enemy units feel same-y and look same-y. Fixing this would be the first step in creating good endgame content. They should take some cues from classic Doom, where everything has "orthogonal design" in mind.

>>15160509

>Sure, they are leaders, but they weren't picked because of merit

You dont necessarily know that.

>the only way a "matriarchal" society can even survive is it doesn't actively prevent the men from doing the things necessary to keep shit functioning.

Yes and no. There are very few recorded instances of actual matriarchies in human history and all of them were in remote places to which no patriarchy could get to or simply didnt care getting to for various reasons. The only example of one still existing that comes to my mind is one in 2 small chinese villages somewhere in the mountains. There women literally do all the work in and around the villages with males being vagabounds housing in cottages around town, not allowed in the dynasties refuges until a women calls one for the night to fuck.

Another example of males simply not giving a shit about anything is in middle/noth africa where women nit and gather while the men chew and smoke leafs all day since their inherited role is being a warrior to protect the tribe. Theres nothing really to protect anymore and the state has has the monopoly on violence so all they do is sit on their asses all day. Its kinda hilarious to watch.

>>15160536

>The AI is certainly the weakest point in Warframe.

Don't get me fucking started on Warframe's shit AI. The amount of times I've had to ditch Defection missions while grinding out Harrow because some Kavor faggot decides his best ticket to salvation is slamming into a wall until he chokes to death on his own incompetence.

>Too many enemy units feel same-y and look same-y.

That's because most of the "different" units are just retooled palette swaps. Lancers, Hellions, Troopers, Bombards, and Seekers all share the same base model as do Crewmen, Snipers, Detron Crewmen, Prova Crewmen, and Techs. If anything the Infested are the most diverse faction design wise, the Leaper's model is only used for itself and it's more volatile cousin. You could argue that the Crawlers are just Leapers cut in half but they act differently so I don't count them

>>15160569

>That's because most of the "different" units are just retooled palette swaps.

Feels and looks weird when you do stealth kills and the unit changes sizes to adjust to the stupid animation.

Watch this homos.

>>15159390

Fuck it, I need something to do now that my sortie is over.

>>15159390

Rollin'

>>15160569

Infested still have the same problem of "same thing but a paint job and different stats", though - at least with the Ancients. Still, yeah, that's exactly what I'd like to see them change - add more unique mechanics for each unit. There's already some great units in the game, so I'd like to see them expand on them in a similar fashion.

The most interesting units already in the game, to me, are

>Nullifiers

because they straight up say "nah, fuck you" to Warframe abilities, and actively encourage the player to prioritize them as targets in a specific way. You can't just look at them and then BOOP dead - you have to whittle down their shield, or specifically target the little osprey thing that hover around the bubble.

>Ancient Healers

because killing them later means enemies become a lot fucking harder to kill - which isn't going to necessarily cause panic, but when trying to down a squad of enemies, does make you think "is this unit more important to kill than the healer?".

>Bursas

These are nice little mini bosses that encourage the player to either maintain alarms, or risk being fucked up the ass by these robot tanks. Furthermore, you can't just aim at them blindly and shoot at them to destroy them - you actually need to aim at specific parts to damage them properly. On the flip side, they can be useful assets if disabled and then hacked.

>Tar/Swarm Mutalist Moas, Sapper Ospreys, Hyekka Master

I feel they'd do better to give the "tar" ability to toxic ancients, but the premise of them is nice all the same - a unit that dances around the map, setting down environmental hazards, encouraging the player to actually watch their fucking step. The other units for Corpus and Grineer, respectively, handle the same role of setting down environmental hazards (just in different, unique ways)

>Manics

Encourages the player to move around and be aware of their surroundings, or risk getting raped to death.

There's some other good units in the game, but they all usually are more of a neat concept with poor (or outdated) execution. The rest are just variations of grunt units that beeline towards you like a pack of lobotomized pugs. Seeing more distinctive units would seriously freshen up the game in general, especially when combined with my previous ideas.

>>15160608

>lore

>>15160638

The Scrambus type units in the Corpus faction are great imo, They can cancel abilities, sap energy, or do any number of things based on their headgear. You don't even need to kill them to neutralize them, if you land a non-lethal headshot their helmet flies off and you can take care of them at your leisure.

Orokin Reactor alert you niggers

>>15160645

>anons discussing lore

>don't post lore videos

bog off.

>>15160608

You are a faggot and so is he. Only because a youtuber declares them a matriarchy doesnt make it a fact.

>All female units have mandatory military service

What a shocker. As do the males. He also ASSUMES in his intro that theres barely no civilian life left to the grineer, which is pure speculation and with that in mind the sole purpose of a clone is the military anyways.

All we actually know about the grineer hierachy is a) its a monarchy b) they have a council so its not an omnipotent monarchy c) nothing.

This video is 75% speculation and idiots like you eat it up because it serves your headcanon and you need a headcanon because uncertainy hurts your youthful, precious spirit.

>>15160667

A video from 3 years ago doesn't count too well towards lore with all the material which has come out since then.

>>15160663

Scrambus were nice in theory, but their unpredictability of what they actually do from each encounter is too random for me to consider them good design. I feel like it'd be better if you had whole missions chock-full of them, rather than the rare one-off appearance of one. Then again, that's more to do with placement than design of the unit itself, but still.

>>15160679

It wouldnt count either way since its neither from DE nor do his statements all come from ingame input. He just connects dots left and right as he sees fit.

>hight is a battle advantage so it counts towards a higher ranking

>in a time where prosthetics are all around and thriving

Hes an idiot. You can already tell by the sound of his cucky voice.

>>15160673

>As do the males

Nope, as he says in the video, men are available to become scientists or research drones.

>>15160683

I think their random nature in terms of their abilities prioritizes them as targets, you want to dispatch the Scrambus types first because you don't know what they'll do.

What they should do is introduce these units rarely at lower levels i.e. Noxes should rarely show up on Earth, Scrambus should rarely show up on Venus, Bursas showing up around Phobos and increase their density in higher level missions for a nice variety of dangerous units to keep budding players and old-timers alike on their toes. Lorewise it would make sense as the stronghold areas of each faction would want to make life for an invading Tenno hell to keep their more important holdings safe. I appreciate the recent changes to the Kuva Fortress in this regard, as Kuva Guardians will occasionally roam around to harass players.

>>15160719

Hm, good point. I'd definitely like to see a bigger difference in enemies depending on the planet I'm on.

>>15160697

Guy can claim whatever he wants, and neither does that statement deny women becoming scientists.

>object A is red

>object B is not blue

>HURR DURR B IS CLEARLY GREEN

You lack basic comprehension. If female clones cannot NOT become militaries that would imply that female clones 100% are always better than the worst male ones. Which is bullshit. It would also imply that female clones cannot reach the same intellect potential as the males. Which makes no sense in that universe either. If there is something akin to mandatory service then that has to have an end somewhere in time wherein soldiers could put away the gun. Like becoming a scientist or councilor or whatever the fuck. If it doesnt have an end then thats not mandatory service, thats being bred for the sole purpose of military serfdom.

Warframe simply, absolutely, no fucking way whatsoever, give you or anyone else on content hungry youtube enough data to make educated guesses about the whole of grineer life and hierachy.

Go.Fuck.Yourself.

>>15160638

>Nullies

I can stand these guys, simple with how they work and to counter them. But

>>15160663

>Scrambus

>great

This is bullshit. Those enemies are bullshit. With nullifiers you at least can see them coming and be smart. With Scrambus you can't and they'll get in range and fuck you up. In the higher missions it can cost you your life, depending upon the frame.

>Ancient healers

Very annoying, and its not always easily possible to target them. Usually they are behind a mass of other enemies or are hidden somewhere in the messy infested maps. In higher levels they make the units they protect invincible against anything but the best weapons.

>Bursas

They are easy to deal with, you don't need to focus on alarms at all.

>Sapper ospreys

Man I hate these guys a lot. They do so much damage. I remember there was one sortie where a ton of them kept spawning. It was pure hell. Mutalist Moas and Hyekka masters are pretty meh. Although I have to say that Hyekka Masters have far too much armor compared to the average soldier.

>Manics

Nothing really special. He appears, you shoot him, he becomes invulnerable and disappears. Repeat until dead.

>>15160741

I hate those things that spawn corpus blue mines.

>>15160741

Pretty much all that comes down to

>These guys can kill me, so I hate it

That's kinda the point, you fgt

>>15160770

Retards with lacking comprehension spouting bullshit make me angry. It wasnt me who took a stroll on youtube to find any fucking old ass video by another asburg that proofs a bs point.

Most annoying enemy type in the game? It's gotta be those grappling hook faggots who can knock you on your ass and prevent you from moving around for a few seconds.

>>15160797

The problem with these is the lame execution on DEs part. The hook still grabs even if the animation is stopped by a knock down right at the start or if theyre killed BEFORE the animation even becomes visible.

>>15160797

those shield carrying fuckers, get too close and your ass gets slapped onto the ground, worst of all is that hey sometimes come up behind you and give you a good slapping

>>15160741

there was plans on more complicated enemies but people backlashed at the thought of having to aim so it got scrapped. Nox got nerfed and isnt even threatening anymore

>>15160818

The thing about that is so many weapons and abilities operate on different rules, that it would invalidate so much shit and only the boring regular weapons would be meta kings. Stuff like the lens, atomos, or maim would be ruined.

>>15160322

>thread being about a game justifies wasting your time

>>15160777

No. My point against Scrambus is that no matter how good you play you're abilities will get blocked, usually fucking you up, with no real way to counter them besides trying to survive long enough to kill the unit.

For example, if you are playing Chroma or Inaros or Rhino. As soon as the Scrambus field hits you the warframe becomes very squish.

Compare the Scrambus to the Nullifier. Against nullies you have a way to avoid losing your abilities. You see their field, and can shoot it down. Makes sense and at most its a bit annoying. If you're an Inaros, Chroma, or Rhino you'll hopefully play smart and not get hit by it. Also requires you to focus shoot it down and can't ignore it.

>Ancient Healers

My largest point against these guy is that you can't easily target them if the unit is surrounded by meatshields and the meatshields don't die at higher levels.

>Sapper Ospreys

1. They will have shot out a lot of the little blue mines if you can identify them and shoot them down.

2. You HAVE to shoot their mines or just wait it out. And personally I have had some trouble trying to shoot their mines and feel as if the hitbox on it is a bit buggy.

3. Hard to see the mines when there are lots of fancy warframe abilities going on.

>Juggernaut

<do like 5 damage per shot

<almost never reveals its weakpoint and when it does its for <3 seconds

<does a fucking ton of damage

Also, just because some units can kill you doesn't mean I hate them. But that it could have been implemented in a better way and the way it currently functions is detrimental.

>>15160833

>he says as he wastes his time posting in a thread about a game he doesn't like.

>>15160831

Well maybe not since DEs idea of complicated enemies is down time with invulnerabitly. Making enemies fast as fuck or having unique abilities is hard.

>>15160838

>meatshields don't die at higher levels

They dont ?

>Juggernaut

If his weapoint would be always visible but an actual hitbox Id even be fine with having these guys strolling around as normal high tier enemies.

>could have been implemented in a better way and the way it currently functions is detrimental.

completely agree

>>15160838

Scrambus got changed recently, they now cast a visible dome that expand to cancel abilities. They aren't much of a threat anymore, they got nerfed a bit too much imo.

>>15160861

For Juggernaut a corrosive Amprex with hunter munitions usually melts him in seconds.

>>15160861

>They dont ?

Depending on the weapon you use and the warframe you have. Its just that I've ran into situations where I couldn't deal with it well.

>>15160866

>Scrambus got changed recently, they now cast a visible dome that expand to cancel abilities

Oh shit, I never knew. Thanks anon.

>>15160838

Only real problem with sappers is they spam those mines fucking hard. It's like if nullies just went around placing down a million bubbles. If they were rarer units and had more limited mine placement, it would be fine.

>>15160873

Plasmor does as well but I usually just unpack the melee and spam or if I dont have something with efficient lifeleech I go potato mode and be done with it in a few seconds more. Juggys really arent a problem if you just switch the brain on again for a short while after hours of autopilot.

>>15160875

You went into infested sorties without being properly equipped..?

Gold tater alert.

>>15160887

Already mentioned here >>15160665

>>15160838

I've found Juggernaut has a weakpoint on top of him. For example spraying him directly with the Ignis does nothing, but spraying above him melts him quickly. Similarly, as Valkyr I would just spam Launching Spring at insane speeds on him so the second he lifts up he dies however since I noticed how I was melting him with the Ignis I tried doing Launching Spring on top of him. It was awkward but it worked.

>>15160983

Well, just in case.

>>15157386

For me, the grind is just an excuse to play through the normal gameplay loop. I don't even touch PoE shit because it's not fun at all. I also don't like to play multiplayer because most fags just have nuke everything warframe builds. The fucking redditors whine about everything that doesn't instantly trivialize the gameplay as being underpowered.

>>15160983

>>15160887

What are orokin reactors even used for?

>>15161023

Doubles the mod capacity of your warframe, sentinel or pet, worth using on your main warframe if you are new and got one you like a lot.

>>15161030

>>15161023

>worth using on your main warframe if you are new and got one you like a lot

*and it doesn't have an available prime in the current or next cycle

Current primes are:

- Limbo

- Zephyr

- Hydroid

- Oberon

- Valkyr

- Mirage

Also Trinity Prime if you wanna go full hebrew and get a *free* twitch prime for a month to get it.

Next cycle unvaults

- Nyx

- Rhino

- Mag

Apparently at least.

>>15160634

Made 60 plat by having warframe in the background while I jerked off to anime tiddies and alt-tabed back in every so often to check trade chat not bad

>>15161050

Trinity from Prime Loot comes with potato installed.

Honestly looking back to when I had started playing this forever ago I'm remembering my disappointment with the corpus. They're described as preferring to use robotic Proxies and the fact that the first real corpus boss is a big robot, followed by a guy with a robot standpartner I was hoping that as I went along I'd see less humanoid units and more robotic units. The few that showed up at higher levels were kind of like gang leaders that came with a ton of different robots. Like one corpus "Technomancer" surrounded by a good mix of defensive and offensive units. I mean we kind of have that with frost eximus and nullifier bubbles attracting units but really I feel like I'm being screwed on corups encounters as I kill what are basically IT guys with guns.

>>15161093

I wish the jackal units would show up on normal missions. They do only on razorback for some reason.

>>15161128

Yeah. In the original Dark Sector trailer one was roaming the hallways and it's sad that isn't a regular thing. Same as there aren't hyenas on corpus planets past alad's bossfight, since he's working on the Zanuka project

I really wish there'd be organized groups of grineer in missions, or just corpus mulling about doing corpus stuff until either you're spotted or the alarm goes off. I'd like to go into a room and see either a group of enemies in a relaxed state, or see them already waiting for me behind corners or barriers. The levels might be semi-random but that doesn't mean AI can't be a little bit better at reacting to players.

>>15161179

>or see them already waiting for me behind corners or barriers

It's pretty funny how few units give a shit about cover. Even the grineer that deploy the walls don't even use them.

>>15161192

it probably means they are already working on a skin for him but havent showed the progress yet. you better hope that dont pull a chroma deluxe

>>15161249

>you better hope that dont pull a chroma deluxe

What's wrong with chroma's deluxe?

>>15161259

It looks like a goddamned lobster is whats wrong with it

>>15161271

Is there something wrong with lobsters? Do you not like trinity either? Do you not enjoy being a sentai hero?

Vanilla spira, worth keeping or am I better off praying to get Despair one day?

>>15161277

Neither spira nor despair are that great, considering they are crit weapons but have a real fucky throwing pattern so getting headshots is rather inconsistent.

>>15161282

I really want some throwable knife that doesn't need detonation (I can get sancti castanas for that), maybe is just a gimmick from my part, is there no good throwing knife/kunai type of weapon that is not prime/vaulted?

>>15161301

Uh, there was a video from some YTber who was theorizing about The Sacrifice and he was playing Chinese Warframe, his operator was wielding that sword if I remember correctly, yes, apparently in China operators are already upgraded somehow.

>>15161294

Well, there's spira prime, but like I said, they all have weird aiming mechanics, so it's a bit of a pain getting reliable headshots. They aren't awful, just finicky.

>>15161301

I see

>>15161804

IZ YOU SAYIN DAT WE WUZ MONKEY KANGZ N SHIET?

>>15161809

>meet wukang in game

>check profile

>kid is nigga

>every time

You can't make this shit up.

>Alert happens right when I fall asleep

Fuck you DE

>>15157447

Turning off your brain meme isn't always bad though. You don't need an epic and thrilling story in everything. If you were to make a fallout game and then start with the turning off your brain XD then you'd be right. Warframe is a game where you mindlessly grind and then jew out to get as much platinum as humanly possible eventually making you extremely suicidal

>>15161179

That's been one of my main issues with the game, the ai is fucking trash but when you're spotted the only reason you'll die is either because of their aimbot or the fact that they pile up two hundred thousand fucking units in your asshole.

>>15158036

>my son

>not playing solo

OK cuck

>>15160409

>nerf stuff

>in a pve game

this mentality is so stupid

>>15162121

It's the only move a shitter has. These people act a lot like niggers in that they can't stand to see someone do better than them. Just like a nigger calles a well-read black man an uncle-tom, these people cry on forums and beg for nerfs to frames or builds that do better than them. And, just like niggers, they would prefer to tear everything else down rather than build up the weaker parts.

You'll see a dozen more posts for the nerfing of a good frame before you see one asking to buff one of the weaker ones. It's funny that they're talking about nerfing trinity because trinity's been nothing BUT nerfed constantly since her debut. I still remember when Blessing had no range limit and gave invulnerability, while Link let me fire my breadbox ogris at my feet and kill things. Trinity used to be a complete monster and her current state is a hollow shell in comparison.

But you can't expect a forumnigger to understand that.

>>15162019

why?

>>15157865

I can't get Banshee chassis either

I don't even want it to make the frame, I just need it to max out New Loka

>play this game year ago

>use aimbot hack + visible enemy + visible loot

>everything is okay get to rank 10 or so

>try to login week ago

>your account has been banned until year 2035

Thank you tencent or whatever chinese chicken company bought this shit.

>>15162332

>Using hacks

>For fucking warfame

How bad are you

>>15162355

I was wondering why the fuck anyone would use an aimbot in warframe but your pic reminded me of fishing. I cant reliably hit the far away fish, is there even an arc and does the game actually have proper water graphics where the fish appears to be higher than it actually is?

>>15162369

fishing is extremely easy, do you have just one eye?

or just git gud

also wait for them to get close or find a rock to stand on, there's no arc if I remember correctly but I could be wrong.

>>15162369

it's sorta fucked. you can compensate for travel time but dont compensate for drop when you fish. i dont think refraction is properly implemented either

>>15162374

Yea that's what im doing most of the time but sometimes barely any fish spawn and when they do some stay far away.

>>15162378

Alright that clears up a lot of things, thank you.

>>15162391

You're probably in bad areas maybe, I haven't done fishing in a while but last time I tried I got tons easily. Just wait for them to get close and click on them, I never really account for distance or anything.

>>15162121

>>15162154

One would think that a game about OP space ninjas would let you play as an OP space ninja and every variant would be equally OP on its own way, for starters, the main problem is not using proper scaling and instead frames have mostly flat numbers.

I just keep wondering, this thing exists before Dark Souls and yet somehow the devs think they need to make it overly difficult, I don't think people ask for spongier enemies when they ask for end-game content, Eidolons are close (except for the usual 1HK they keep pushing), sometimes I just don't get it.

I still resent Nova's major nerf, expanding MP is just not the same at all, complete immunity with Trinity was perfectly balanced if you ask me, you still had to minmax your build to do that.

>>15162308

I had to get a second one because I am still short one piece for a full set (to sell for plat) but now I have New Loka maxed.

>>15162374

Lately fish doesn't spawn for me, even with drop chance boosters (from login rewards.)

>>15162607

>Lately fish doesn't spawn for me

Where are you fishing? I usually go the place to the right side of the gate with the rock in the middle of the water.

also is anyone playing and farming for relics currently? I need a shit ton of literally everything but no idea where to go

>>15162629

Everywhere, depends on the fish I need but they are spawning less, usually I throw a dye and wait, if there are some I throw bait, when I am lucky I manage to get some Norgs in the lake, otherwise I can waste bait and get no rare fish and even common ones are not spawning as often.

As for relics, when I am leveling up or cracking relics on endless missions I am usually resupplying mine that way.

>>15162691

I'm fine on relics actually, got tons. just wish I could do endless fissure missions whenever.

Not sure about the fish though, might be a bug.

>>15162710

People keep saying may be a bug, according to a few people on the forum I am not the only one, the problem with endless fissures is how only DEF is good because you can opt out whenever you feel like it, in the others you usually have to wait until the others are satisfied.

>>15162369

There is no arc BUT the how you are standing affects the flight path and fish dye incorrectly shows fish location, sometime they are slightly below the outline

>>15163319

put it into warframe builder or a riven calculator

>>15163319

Are those the max rank stats? I would go for the critical one.

>>15163384

>>15163450

Apparently cold and damage was better.

>>15163460

In general raw damage is your best bet.

>>15163450

If those number seem low it's because the Lex has the lowest possible multiplier for Rivens. As well as the Marelok, Akstilleto, and Sonicor. https://semlar.com/rivencalc/lex%20prime/321

>>15163506

That site is slightly out of date, or? It has a selection for the Kronsh zaw strike but not the Dokrahm.

>>15159390

ROLLIN ROLLIN ROLLIN

>>15163621

Weird, they have it in the Zaw Calculator. The Riven Calculator is also missing Pyrana Prime which functionally isn't a problem but is inconsistent. Same with that strike since all strikes seem to have a perfectly neutral disposition.

As far true dispositions go it shouldn't be a problem though since DE doesn't even keep up to date with weapon popularity.

>>15164271

I just use ivara with prowl and activate EZ mode.

>>15164271

Never pug spy, let alone sortie spy, and they all indeed have their secret passage ways.

>>15164271

This.

>Niggers jump into onslaught with new frames

>Go down every 20 fucking seconds

>Two of them leave halfway through

>One leaves after wave 7, cucking me out of the last reward

FUCK YOU I JUST WANT THE FUCKING KHORA PARTS FUCK

>>15164384

It really shouldn't matter what frame they have as long as you have saryn.

1. press 1

2. press 3

4.???

5.Grofit

>>15164405

I will never use the fart fetish frame

>>15164405

>regular onslaught

>even ESO

>needing the 3 ever

>>15164411

>fart fetish frame

forced meme is forced

>>15164414

they spread much faster and farther with it on.

>>15164427

Faster yes, farther no, where are you getting that from?

>>15164292

>>15164382

Still need one more ivara part, only spy missions I never learned inside out are the lua ones and the kuva fortress. Tomorrow ill fuck around in the kuva fortress and learn those I suppose.

>>15164443

Just from the old way she worked, they probably changed it. It used to be spores spread only 50% range on death and at full when popped, dunno how it works now considering they don't spread at all on death.

>>15164447

Yeah she's a real pain to get.

>>15164450

If the spores kill, there's no spread. If anything else kills them, they spread their listed distance. Simple as that. Toxic lash does nothing but make it so you can spread without killing the target.

>>15164512

hey fuck you kuva survival is great and gets you kuva

>>15164512

>Being retarded

>>15164523

>needing kuva

How? I'm sitting on 100k just from sorties.

>>15164546

They probably got lucky enough to get the Rivens they want but not lucky enough to get the rolls they need.

>>15164546

>sorties

>giving kuva

nigga I've gotten nothing but anasas for the last two fucking weeks

>>15164546

>I'm sitting on 100k just from sorties.

You're a lucky dog, I usually get Ayatans or shit-tier rivens.

>>15164571

The fuck is up with that anyways? I have a shitload sitting all over my ship because I got tired of them shitting up my inventory. Is the drop rate bugged?

>>15164835

nah, they're just the most common drop.

>>15164838

Supposedly Exilus adapters and shit can drop too but I've not seen or heard of that dropping for anyone a single time.

>>15164859

i got 2 from sorties

>>15164859

I've been playing long enough to have gotten almost everything from sorties except a legendary core. I even got nezha while he was still a sortie reward.

>>15164576

Now you will have to look for a decent song.

>>15164959

Just fuckin put notes everywhere no one really gives a shit about the music and it punishes you for making actually listenable music

>>15165025

How does it punish you?

>>15164271

>kuva spy missions

For the bunker room one, you can go left and down then wrap around to the right and back up, past the drones and mines on the ground to something of a back door into the spy room. Pop the sensor bar, hack the console, and you're in the main spy room itself.

Alternatively, you can go up around to the right, wait for the Grineer-sensitive door to open when a Grineer on patrol passes through it, run in after, then proceed around to the left and into the vault from there.

For the room where the vault is right under where you start there's a way into it that uses the piping under the walkway where most of the patrols are.

For the third one, where you have to disable the three locks to unlock the main vault room I always just use a stealth frame and do it the old fashioned hacking way. If there's a secondary entrance I don't know it, cause I've never needed it.

>>15165042

>How does it punish you?

Because to utilize her 3 effectively, you need to perform actions in-time with the circles of light that converge on Octavia's feet. This generally means something nice and simply like a 4/4 setup is preferred, but anything that has a constant steady beat to it will naturally be easier to use than something that has interesting twists and off-beat notes to it. I.e. I made the first 4 bars of vid-related starting from the main verse at 1:09 until about 1:16 and while it sounds pretty accurate given the pentatonic limitations of the Mandachord, it's a bitch to actually time any of the notes correctly. Whereas the ever-popular Doom M1E1 is just notes constantly going every chance they can, making buff application brainless and therefore easy. They tried to balance it out a bit with "big" notes causing a bigger wave of light and thus granting more % progress towards activating a buff but in practical use Warframe is just too fast-paced for that kind of nuance to be effective.

>>15165157

reminder that there was a time when explosive weapons had the same ammo pools as regular rifles

reminder that the Tonkor was an explosive weapon that did NOT blow you up

I prefer the Penta to the Ogris because I am a weirdo

>>15165157

>play nyx with ogris and 4 augment

>aim at the floor the whole time

what am I supposed to do with the sacred inaros vessel

>>15165259

Daily tributes can give you blueprints for weapons you haven't mastered yet.

>>15161804

WUKONGAAAAAA

>>15161804

WUKANGZ

>>15165234

kill the enemy on the face of the jar. It's gonna be either bursas, brood mothers, or hyekka masters.

>>15165266

not very. I think I've only ever found like 7 or 10 from just random spawns.

>One guy says he needs to leave halfway through

>The other two people don't say anything, they all just silently decide to leave me alone

What a bunch of cunts

>>15165482

Were you Banshee using RQ?

I got Valkyr Prime. It's a melee frame? What's good about it, what's bad about it, how can I best use it?

>>15165789

1. She's hot

2. You can be invinciblefor long stretches

3. Your claws do massive damage

4. You have gorillions of armor

That's about it.

>>15165822

>melee a shit.

>The other half of her skills are worthless.

are you clinically retarded?

>>15165789

Her 1 is marginally useful for pulling down flying enemies while in Hysteria and extra movement beyond what a bullet jump can provide.

Her 2 is best when combined with the Eternal War augment if you want to go that route.

Her 3 I use for breaking containers behind walls and rarely for setting up finishers.

Her 4 is her most useful ability. Even post nerf with a Streamline and a maxed Fleeting Expertise you can reduce the energy per second cost to manageable levels so the ability can last for at least a couple minutes without energy drops. The melee combos on Hysteria are awkward, but they don't matter since her sliding attack, Launching Spring, deals a metric fuckton of damage and can kill Sortie level enemies unmodded.

Her passive is a nice QoL touch.

The downside is that while she can kill quickly with Hysteria she cannot nuke like Mesa or Equinox or whoever. That said I can brute-force things Sortie Defense by killing everything as they come and reviving the objective every time he falls without a care in the world. The only thing that really hurts is multiple Energy Leech Eximus spawns back to back to back. Which a good Eternal War build doesn't care about anyways.

>>15165881

>He's never used Launching Spring

>He's never used Hysteria at all from the sound of it.

>2.0 crit multiplier is "low"

>Doesn't know Exalted weapons do benefit from Gladiator set bonuses equipped to both the frame and melee weapon

You are clinically retarded.

>>15165912

Valkyr is trash. She's outdamaged by almost every other DPS frame.

>>15165917

>Only has one real response to getting called out.

>Still woefully retarded thinking 2.0 is a low multiplier.

>In part because the base damage of Hysteria is much, much higher than other melee weapons depending on power strength.

To be clear I'm not saying 2.0 is a high multiplier, I consider it to be the minimum to not be shit, however calling it "low" is very disingenuous.

>>15165923

I think he's just fishing for (you)s, but responding to his crticisms will help the other anon decide on her.

>>15165930

>I think he's just fishing for (you)s, but responding to his crticisms will help the other anon decide on her.

Well, I've got the thing in the oven as we speak, so I guess I've already made my decision. I just wanted to know what to expect. I really on care about the MR. I hate that I've been stuck at MR10 for so long.

>>15165923

The part where she stays relevant for anything other than wasting everybody's time with her nodamage. Spin to win doesn't really win when your range is so pitiful that you can't hit more than a couple of dudes at a time. You can say finishers but I will laugh at you.

And if I wanted a worthless faggot to run around reviving people while invincible I'd bring a Limbo.

>>15165936

Do as you please anon. So long as you are informed and not retarded like these other anons.

>>15165937

Why do you retards keep saying she doesn't deal enough damage? Hysteria's Launching Spring will one shot everything. Lack of aggro control mechanics is a problem though since I can't really solo Sortie Mobile Defense or Excavation depending on tier and tileset. Otherwise she can reliably solo every other Sortie mission type for me.

>>15165943

>lol she deals no damage because no crit multiplier

>lol nvm she deals no damage because no range.

The second part is a valid criticism, almost, since I can mulch through enemies as quickly as needed, but you've already proven yourself to be disingenuous.

>>15165943

>nodamage

Faggot she can handle any standard unit, and can even rape noxs with paralysis. And again, she's not a dps frame, she's a tank. Do you complain about rhino not having any damage on his charge too?

>And if I wanted a worthless faggot to run around reviving people while invincible I'd bring a Limbo.

b-but muh no damage

>>15165959

>hysteria's launching spring will one shot everything

On 30-40 maybe, afterwards refer to the forma and inability to fit bloodrush.

>>15165972

It's almost like I have experience one-shotting everything with Hysteria or something. You're just proving your ignorance.

Before they made Exalted weapons seperate I would solo things like Shotgun only Sorties with Hysteria. So I had no melee weapon for Hysteria to copy its mod from. Do you know what the difference was? It took 2, maybe 3 Launching Springs to kill a level 100 Bombard and everything else died in one hit still.

Furthermore, since the change I've forma'd Hysteria twice and it's fine. Also do not forget that the Gladiator set bonus applies to it. Does it burn my ass that I can't use Bloodrush because DE is a bunch of faggots who hate people having too much fun? Of course, but I also don't need it or Meming Strike to kill with Hysteria and insisting otherwise is pure ignorance.

>>15166066

Here's my problem with your logic and why we insist you're retarded.

>It's a crit weapon

>With a crit multiplier that's not stupid high!

>Absolutely unworkable. Literally every crit weapon must have a 3.0 or it's going in the garbage.

<But I'm killing things just fine over here anon.

>*smug anime girl* no you have no crit multiplier you deal shit damage

<They're dead anon.

>Nooo, 'cause you can't kill anything :^)

Do you see this back and forth and why it makes you look retarded?

>Cool, you can gib a handful of tosspots huddled together.

Accurate.

>Or you know, you can just walk through the room with a well made polearm or whip and kill the room, doing more damage than those claws dealt to everything within a 20m radius.

Dead fucking wrong about the damage, but I won't deny range is a problem.

>But keep blithering about being disingenuous.

Because you are. Valkyr is my most used frame and my second most used is Valkyr Prime. I know her perks and her flaws quite well. I would never insist she's perfect or a must have, but she is far from Mastery Fodder. However you're trying to tell me and other anons things that are completely false about her because you cannot accept being wrong.

>And you fags need to decide whether you want to defend her ability to deal damage or not. You can't just throw it out there, then retract it saying she's not a DPS frame when someone calls you on your shit.

I know you have a disability, but don't lump in my arguments with his to try and poison the well.

>She's shit for damage and being a "tank" is pointless in this game when there are no aggro mechanics.

That's not what he means by tanking. You're taking a talking point from the other anon and missing the context of it.

>Like the other anon said, she's fun for star chart but she just doesn't get shit done like other frames do.

Name one thing I can't do with her that I haven't already ceded she can't do. That being soloing Sortie Excavation and Mobile Defense and I'll add on endless Defense and Excavation at high levels since she has no real CC to keep the objectives alive.

>>15166107

>fraps

That's adorable.

>>15166093

>loki prime

>not volt prime

>>15166195

Everything this anon says is true period. Valkyr now simply functions with the gladiator set + Eternal War. Shes not a must have but still a keeper. Hysterias biggest flaw is just the stance itself but the unreal attack speed you can squeeze out of her makes spinning not necessary. If you equip her with Hirudos you wont ever have to push 4 anyways, youre already immortal. Naturally this makes her terrible range even worse but gladset+berserk+et.war nearly kills the engine, youll be overleaping most of your targets if youre not cautious with the mouse movement.

Valkys is a good frame (despite rework), so is Oberon(after rework).

Khora is trash, a rework is very needed.

Is there a faster way to get neurals aside from Aladd V?

>>15166814

Never ever, theyve been working circles around her the first 2 months after introduction and have thrown her in the wellfuckit bin. Shell stay shit forever or until a prime version comes out, which should be in 10 years.

>>15166838

Jupiter defense or survival with Nekros or Hydroid.

>>15166093

>needing stealth frames for spy mission

You are a master of nothing

>>15166814

Khora was inteded to be the poster child for the Damage 2.5 IPS rework. When Damage 2.5 was shelved for a complete overhaul because DE's idea was shit, they had to retool Khora's whole kit. She was delayed and then unceremoniously dumped into Sanctuary Onslaught with no quest despite being the mascot for Beasts of the Sanctuary.

>>15166906

I think he means Neural Senors, not Neurodes.

Also,

>region chat

>>15166913

Yeah I meant neural sensors.

>>15166913

Oops, but still best way to get Neurodes then.

And no that was not regional chat, that is a PM i got for one of my Survival farm ads in recruitment chat.

>>15165262

That explains why I have gotten a mountain of archwing weapon blueprints from daily tributes…

Why are they still wasting time on that obvious abortion Revenant instead of bringing out Garuda?

>>15165893

>2.0 crit multiplier is "low"

2.0 is a low crit multiplier.

>>15166998

>Exalted whip never ever

Good, the whole exalted weapon change was a massive con to get people to buy more formas and the playerbase ate it up like retards.