1a4056 No.15142870
Is this the peak of stealth gameplay at the moment?
Or should one go back and play Siphon Filter?
1ecca0 No.15142948
Thief and Splinter Cell are better. I still love MGS, but no, anon, there is much better out there.
b6f287 No.15142952
Even Dishonored was a better than game than that
f4287f No.15142957
>You will never get a finished MGS5
f4287f No.15142976
Also no, it isn't the best, but it is one of the best
28b979 No.15142980
>>15142870
It's easily cheesed but pretty good with the right settings/conditions. Anyone crying other wise is just slyly begging to be bullied for their lack of self-control.
e55dd4 No.15142987
I hope Death Stranding flops and Kojima's finally revealed as the retard he is.
f4287f No.15143021
>>15142987
>I wish video games are bad!
Kill yourself. MGS5 was great gameplay wise and you can't prove me otherwise. I have no reason to believe that DS is going to be bad when every single MGS had good gameplay. I don't care with who Jew and Holywood actor does Kojima hang out with. All I care are the video games. If the video game is good then I will buy it. I have no reason to wish for an upcoming video game to fail, because that makes one less good video game for me to enjoy.
f5cf18 No.15143035
>>15142980
>Anyone crying other wise is just slyly begging to be bullied for their lack of self-control
It's up to the developers to establish a level of difficulty for the players to experience, which usually involves providing different difficulty modes or challenge modes to suit different types of players. The level of difficulty should not arise from the player having to hold back in order to avoid outright breaking the game. Else what's the point of having difficulty settings?
0a01ac No.15143036
Asking because I've read conflicting replies:
Thief: Gold
I know it's shit because the Gold edition adds thief guild missions that are retarded (don't remember if unbalanced for that point in the game or what).
But I remember someone said you can ignore them and continue playing.
Is that true, or am I better off with the original edition?
1ecca0 No.15143040
>>15142957
Surprised no one else has tried to take the ball that MGSV dropped. I still feel open world stealth has massive potential. It could easily be too much of a hybrid of everything else, but that is part of the open world appeal, being able to tackle an objective multiple ways.
1ecca0 No.15143044
>>15143036
Gold does have the Guild mission which is total shit. You can skip levels with a simple button combo anyway, so don't worry about it. Gold also includes some other missions that I liked compared to the turd that is Guild and changes some objectives/item placement. I had no problem with Gold
5ae6cd No.15143075
Pacifist being the harder/more rewarded option is the worst meme.
1ecca0 No.15143105
>>15143075
No traces/ghost should be the ideal, so any kill or knockout is bad. But yes, KO gets too much bias and reward.
5ae6cd No.15143177
>>15143105
I think it should be the other way around, I want managing to kill everyone without being spotted being the harder option that yields the greater rewards.
f4287f No.15143254
>>15143177
>Killing people from a distance is harder
Anon, have you ever played any stealth game at all? Sneaking through the enemy sentries is much harder than just shooting them with a silenced weapon
1a4056 No.15143301
>>15142980
sounds like Crysis
5ae6cd No.15143332
>>15143254
Who said anything about distance? I said that I think that games should make it the harder option to kill people. Putting effort into letting your enemies live is boring.
3ccc5e No.15143976
>>15143105
Agreed, I wish there was a game where guards noticed >open doors
>broken lights
>broken cameras
>missing teammates
>other guards failing to report their status
>bullet holes and spent casing
<inb4 but x game does y thing
I know there's a couple games that have guards noticing a few of those things, but it's never all of them together. If they made a game with guards that were this intelligent and observant, going through the game unspotted would prove rather challenging.
Also I wonder when the "guards forget completely about you if you hide long enough after a n encounter" meme will end.
dfde58 No.15144295
Splinter Cell Blacklist on Perfectionist difficulty.
09c6f9 No.15144327
>>15143332
Killing is against the spirit of stealth because a guard MAGICALLY VANISHING is going to be a red alert for any remotely competent force.
1ecca0 No.15144370
>>15143976
Guards resetting is understandable as some games would just be impossible to progress if they are on alert/caution. Fixed routes and patrols is the cornerstone of stealth and having that permanently disrupted would be unfair unless you finally die or restart. Perhaps as a difficulty option.
9ee438 No.15144399
>>15142870
Fuck following Phagan in that museum
that cathedrar level tho
f23111 No.15144472
Are there any good RPG's where you can play as a cat-burgular and ransack people's houses? I know that the Elder scrolls and Fallout do it, but they've never really scratched the itch.
1a4056 No.15144482
>>15144472
thief 3 has hub type areas where you can do that but its a small part of the game
a4a13e No.15144673
>>15144327
That's part of why it would be harder to accomplish, so killing everyone without setting off the alarm should be encouraged because it should be the harder (cool) route.
ee7485 No.15145120
>>15143040
>I still feel open world stealth has massive potential
Only if the game is entirely done in a sandbox way with enough random elements thrown into it that give it enough replayability.
It's a shame that open world games get done for the Action genre, Just Cause being the best example, but the same thing for Stealth seems to be extremely rare.
Even the AssCreed games are more hack&slash than stealth anyway and they squander the potential that open world gives them.
Something as simple as the basic concept of MGSV: aproach a situation from any angle, after adquiring enough information before getting in and afecting it with sidequests.
Let's say it's a Thief-like game, where you have the goal of stealing something from a mansion. It's a building on the open world surrounded by tall walls and many guards inside. You can just head there right away to get in if you feel confident enough.
Or you can explore the city around, visit bars for rumors, take a look around the mansion and find several different ways to get in. A sewer tunnel, an employee that will sell you a key, a way to adquire a disguise, some tower nearby you can climb and rappel from. Basically all the fluff that Garret tells you about in a cutscene before a mission, but now you gotta look for it yourself around the city, especially since in every playthrough, not all ways are available. The sewer tunnel might be collapsed, the employee might not accept bribes, etc.
I'd also like to see Social Stealth done a lot better than we usually get. Simply being capable of bullshiting your way into anywhere, win the trust of everyone to betray them afterwards, pull off disguises and personas to walk amongst guards and civilians at will, etc. Gathering information to know what to say, keeping your story together so your lies aren't discovered but also having to lie or it's all gonna be traced back to you, it's all neat gameplay to add onto a game.
1ecca0 No.15145228
>>15145120
>mfw if that game existed
bd81d0 No.15145277
>>15145120
You're describing AssCreed Unity, which I maintain has genuinely good gameplay. It just needs a non-shit story, enemy variety, and better AI and boom, you have an 9/10 game. I would also like all targets to naturally exist in the world rather than be activated my missions, but that'll never happen.
ee7485 No.15145357
>>15145277
I only played the first AssCreed game and a bit of the second.
From what I remenbered, the entire open world aspect barely mattered at all since every key assassination was a specific sequence in a specific location done in a specific way. The most you got out of the open world was when escaping after the kill.
Even the sidequests were mostly done in a specific location, not different at all from standard open world games anyway, and although they did provide some advantages for the final assassination, they would be incredibly minor do to the necessity of an entire "cinematic experience" for the main mission, meaning that it couldn't detour that much from what the devs planned for the player.
6e85ad No.15145501
>>15143976
I wish there was a game where guards were actually pretty perceptive along with what you say
>No creeping behind guards to choke them out, they can and will hear your footsteps and have enough time to fight back or at least yell to alert a few more enemies. Best way is to lay in wait where they patrol or bait them into a good position with a gadget
>Or you can use the stealth pistol, but it has very limited ammo and it's not that silenced, so you have to be very careful when you use it
>Moving undetected makes too much noise, you'll probably spook someone
>Even if you stay perfectly still you'll have to hold your breath in the dark when guards are close by, otherwise they can hear your breathing
>Guards notify command center every five minutes, so you either take out the command center first or knock out a guard and have 5 minutes to take out the command center, otherwise the place goes on alert
>If on alert the guards get paranoid as fuck and will call for reinforcements and act as cautiously as possible even just wait patiently until the rest of the squad comes to enter where they think you are and fuck you for anything they find out of the ordinary
At least for a game on the hardest difficulty level or something
21f299 No.15145586
I'm replaying Thief on a CRT monitor and it's becoming one of the best gaming experiences I've had in a long time.
>>15143036
Thief Gold adds a bunch of missions, not just the Thieves guild. Also the first Thief game is probably not going to be what you expect. Some of it feels like you're playing a Thief in a D&D campaign. A lot of the missions are what you'd expect from stealth games, then there's shit with Tombs filled with zombies. I hated this shit when I first played, but it really grew on me and is one of those things you just don't see in games anymore. They ripped it all out in Thief 2, which is basically pure stealth and nothing comes close to this fucking day. Not even the Dark Mod.
d5d289 No.15145701
>>15145120
So… Hitman but with more stealth?
3ccc5e No.15145753
>>15144370
>fixed patrol routes
that's another shit I forgot to mention and it's gay as fuck; stealth should be about adapting to the situation not just finding a path that's been laid out for you to go through the level undiscovered 100% of the times because you already know it.
21f299 No.15145808
>>15145753
This is kinda the reason I find it hard to play most stealth games. It never feels like you're sneaking in somewhere.
Old TF2's Spy was the only thing that really gave me that vibe, because you had to sneak around other players. This was before the cloak recharged from ammo, so your invisibility got you through checkpoints and you actually had to dance around peoples cone of vision while you where visible or just fucking hide while your cloak reacharged. You where also never in the same situation aside from attacking engineers or snipers, who just camp the same spot. Nobody played the spy back then because it use to be hard as balls but then they dumbed it down with shit like the dead ringer.
889ed2 No.15145875
3528f5 No.15145954
>>15144295
I played through blacklist on perfectionist for my first playthrough with no guide, the game is a shit. The mechanics are broken for the dogs and the rest of the enemies have braindead simple mechanics. If you try going for the bonuses and 100%'s on ghost missions its a little harder. But even splinter cell conviction was slightly more difficult on realistic then that shit. And conviction is shit to begin with.
1ff72e No.15145975
Bump for more stealth games
6b6394 No.15147016
>>15145701
Hitman's got the "NPCs have memory of a goldfish, except that they have psychic powers when a very specific set of circumstances or conditions are met" problem, and it's system is just switching costumes and either running without letting anyone stop to complete a check on you or walking very very slowly.
A lot less switching clothes a lot more involved role playing and larping in your disguise with dialogue trees is what he's getting at, I think.
6f62b4 No.15147045
>>15145501
>Even if you stay perfectly still you'll have to hold your breath in the dark when guards are close by, otherwise they can hear your breathing
I like this, but only for immediately after you've been doing exertion. If you're rested, your breathing will be quiet enough that it doesn't alert anyone.
199895 No.15147055
>>15142870
>stealth game
>posts non-stealth game
You ok?
720234 No.15147078
>>15142870
When did SF become a stealth game, sure it had one or two levels in the first two games but did that change after?
c9ac68 No.15147333
>>15143036
The problems with the Thief guild is that it's slightly unfinished so you can stand in shadows and still be visible and shit like that. And then there is the backtracking and the 90's-puzzles to solve the objectives that makes you want to tear out your hair.
fc1242 No.15147403
>mgs
>stealth
>MGS V especially
>pinnacle of stealth
Is this what it feels like to be a kojimbot or weebcuck?
The guards have 25m detection radius and while prone you can roll through half the missions.
fc1242 No.15147434
>>15143035
No, I can. The level design is shit, half the map is empty and filled with Ubisoft tier collectible and outpost map design, the non lethal weapons are absurdly overpowered compared to lethal ones, half the game is fucking stupid timers if you do decide to unlock shit, you spend like 1-2 hours MINIMUM for the fucking helicopter rides if you play just the main story and the guard AI is brain dead retarded. Get fucked kojimbot/weebcuck.
>>15143036
Thief Gold is basically no different from the normal game. You can skip missions by pressing control + alt + shift + end, which I highly suggest doing on the Thieves Guild mission. The other missions are fine.
20d26c No.15147447
>>15147403
Not to mention that the dog makes the game even more trivial than it already is.
fc1242 No.15147471
>>15147447
Oh yeah, I forgot about the companions being overpowered as fuck and making half the game trivial or pointless.
099cd9 No.15147520
>>15142976
You should censor bar his eyes for aesthetic effect, Rhodi-san.
171c66 No.15147580
Guide to play The Phantom Pain
1. Start from Ground Zeroes
2. Play the game linearly
3. No side missions
4. Only bare minimum loadout
5. No fultoning enemies
6. No companions with automarking
7. No mother base
8. No weapon development
9. Enable all the previous for Chapter 2, after beating the game proper
2882a4 No.15147590
>>15147580
How do you beat the mech mission at the end of part 1.
39c5eb No.15147599
>>15147590
There's a couple of BMPs you can use against it on the map.
b64645 No.15147758
Obligatory Thief FM's
Needs to be added on, I've gone through more than half the list. For now I've been browinsg TTLG forums and playing FM's I find there. Amazing how FM's are still being made.
439fde No.15147797
>just recently playing hitman 2: slient assassin'
the snipers in the 2nd level in japan are retarded, if they start shooting at you for some random reason, restart the level because you're fugged, i don't know about the nip with the hueg cans giving you the special keycard, i should actually play the original hitman.
the penthouse level was extremely good and well-designed, as soon as the girl near the painting starts checking the money, break the fuses and get slient assassin as you go for cash, statue and fibre wire / sliently shoot the target, then hop into the elevator as the tech goes up the elevator, and the patterns should sync up to the point where
the level where you need to kill the lieutenant & colonel i didn't know colonel was ranked higher is easy to break and since the requirements for slient assassin isn't too harsh (depending on the actions you do, you get lee-way with some kills or shots, like you get a free alert if you never shoot), doing it legitimately is retarded, not as free-flowing as the other missions (why the fuck do i have to wait around in this specific spot so the colonel sits in this corner, he isn't taking a piss or anything it's fucking retarded)
The one thing I absolutely hate in hitman 2: silent assassin is sight radius/arc, it's different for each character and hell different for EACH region/location, the ninjas in japan had a wide arc and despite being in the fucking snow, they can hear my footsteps in constant snow and they walk faster than my stealth walk, man that's fucking gay.
5c1ee9 No.15147804
>>15142976
Now that’s what I call edgy
8fe7aa No.15147900
>>15142976
>not playing as FlamingBuffalo
wew
4b2c94 No.15147913
>>15147900
>not Spunky Leopard
f4287f No.15147930
>>15147804
>>>/leftypol/
>>15147900
Her face is fat and she has asthma.
1ecca0 No.15147974
>>15147930
You can mod the Mother Base grills right?
e1de22 No.15148094
>>15142870
No. It's certainly the peak of MGS in terms of gameplay but nothing else, the game has top tier mechanics but barely any content to use them on.
The peak of the genre is still Thief 2 & Chaos Theory and maybe STYX 2 if I'm feeling it
f4287f No.15148197
>>15147974
Yeah, I'm using the 'New Female Faces and Hairs' mod while simultaneously mass-farming S+ girls with the 'Maidens, Money and Materials' mod which allows you to get 9+ females per sidequest and allows you do only take the ones you like and kill the rest without failing the mission.
This way I have a 100% Aryan motherbase without any niggers or nigresses
1fcff6 No.15148343
>>15143021
>MGS5 was great gameplay wise and you can't prove me otherwise.
<generic third person shooter with light easy mode stealth mechanics like every fucking game now
<good
>every single MGS had good gameplay
<PW, 5
<good gameplay
>I don't care with who Jew and Holywood actor does Kojima hang out with. All I care are the video games.
<doesn't care that a failed filmed director has been trying to Hollywoodize his games for nearly 30 years so he can elbow his way into Hollywood
<doesn't care (((AVI ARAD))) wants to produce an MGS movie
<doesn't care what a libcuck Kojima is
Yeah I'm sure you "care about games", Kojimacuck. Bet you think he wrote all the scripts for all his games too.
20d26c No.15148373
>>15147471
Are the other companions also that good? I never really cared about them since they didn't fit my playstyle (even took out the dog for a while because he made the game autopilot mode). I only ever used the sniperthot for the missions where you have those shitty boss fights.
f4287f No.15148390
>>15148343
>Has shit taste
>Never actually played the game
>And yet thinks I;ll take his shit opinion seriously
Fuck off nigger. Nothing you say will ever change my opinion. MGS is great and based on that DS also has the potential of being great. Go whine about muh kojimbo somewhere else faggot
199895 No.15148421
>>15148390
Imagine sucking kojangles' cock this hard
dbe35d No.15148428
>>15148343
>generic third person shooter
There's very little that's generic about MGS. Not that many other third person shooters have the same amount of gun customization or enemy AI, not to mention the entire idea about fulton extractions and all the fun little bits like the boxes.
You can dislike the game if you want, but you're gonna have to do better than this if you want to claim it has bad or generic gameplay.
>all that shit about movies
Who cares? Would you actually pay money to see it? Would it affect the games anyway? It's Hollywood business, why does it matter to videogames?
1a4056 No.15148464
>>15147580
>Start from Ground Zeroes
how much mgs backstory do you need to play 5?
1ecca0 No.15148523
>>15148464
Quite a bit. I'd assume you're PC only so no go for a lot of the games. You'd have to watch a longplay of MGS3, then PW just to be up to speed for GZ. Even then you miss out on things if you don't play/read up on MG1 and 2 as well as the other Solid games. The timeline is all over the place but release order is definitely the way to play MGS.
f4287f No.15148531
>>15148421
>Zero vidya, just politics
Imagine being this desperate
6e473c No.15148534
>>15145586
>I’m playing this old game
Good
>on a CTR monitor
I want Reddit to leave
3f6f8d No.15148535
>>15142870
>Is this the peak of stealth gameplay at the moment?
No.
bb1ffe No.15148543
>>15148534
What do you have against one of the best kart racers around?
139d4b No.15149115
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51aabc No.15149158
>>15148373
Since mission ratings is based on speed you can just use the robot to get the highest rank at OKB Zero by zipping past everyone with a shield on your back right into the front door then just run, sniper slut is free kills and take downs without the pesky need for things like getting close so you can just hang back and take everyone out and she never ever gets caught.
20d26c No.15149213
>>15149158
>Since mission ratings is based on speed you can just use the robot to get the highest rank at OKB Zero by zipping past everyone with a shield on your back right into the front door then just run
Oh, so that's another busted way, but I liked my method better which was even more busted, which involves just chucking a smoke grenade into your jeep and then hightailing it outta there, all the guys in the base even move away from you because they're afraid of the smoke and they don't even see you.
ee7485 No.15149757
>>15149158
That robot trick stops working the second they get better weapons.
And Quiet can actually be taken down if there's an alarm. It takes some sustained fire on her position, but she can indeed be forced to retreat.
Are we doing the old "I'm going to judge the entire game over it's intial segments alone" again?
21f299 No.15150118
>>15148534
>Giving up retro gaming to Reddit
For shame.
I played Thief a shitload on multiple LCDs and never noticed random details like the bar shadows on the main menu. The colors are way stronger, but more importantly, the shadows look 100x better and transition evenly. Enemies actually blend into the darkness. It's not about fucking scanlines, blur and other faggy shit you see in pic related, which I don't even experience. That's the shit I could see reddit caring about.
c9ac68 No.15150210
>>15148464
Nothing, as long as you know your old action-movies you have nothing to worry about, since Kojima stole all of his plot-points from old action-movies.
3f6f8d No.15150462
>>15150118
>It's not about fucking scanlines
Regardless of if you notice them your set still has them anon and they are adding the contrast and sharpening it up. Don't be insecure about the features of your CRT because "muh reddit".
4e986b No.15150603
>>15147913
>>15147900
>Not installing infinite heaven, expanded female soldiers, and the touched up faces mod for your own personal S++ unique soldierfu you play as
I got a blonde rusky that refuses to learn or know anything but the language of squat and is a perfect soldier. One of a kind.
200e72 No.15150637
>>15148464
peacewalker probably
Peacewalker was the only metal gear game I never played because it's on PSP and I didn't really understand what the hell was going on in 5.
>>15148421
Now I believe fukushima poster because kojimbo talks like a hack and hangs out with hacks and likes hacks.
61fcb7 No.15150644
>>15147804
Shut the fuck up redditor.
574c9e No.15150678
Will one of you kind anons post the Splinter Cell cutscene that references Metal Gear Solid by saying Snake retired with Fischer's response being: "I'm the only one left."
200e72 No.15150697
>>15147016
>Hitman's got the "NPCs have memory of a goldfish, except that they have psychic powers when a very specific set of circumstances or conditions are met" problem, and it's system is just switching costumes and either running without letting anyone stop to complete a check on you or walking very very slowly.
A lot less switching clothes a lot more involved role playing and larping in your disguise with dialogue trees is what he's getting at, I think.
This is obviously due to limitations of ai coding. The perfect social stealth game with NPCs involved will never happen because "AI" is not truly AI it's just shitty fuzzy logic and can and will be gamed.
860523 No.15150702
>>15150637
Get the HD or Legacy collections, they have Peace Walker but with better controls because two thumbsticks. They're probably pretty cheap by now. Better yet, get two copies and co-op with a friend, then lament over the fact that V doesn't have co-op.
063ac6 No.15150962
>>15142957
He needs to stop being a faggot and port the early games to PC before I buttrape him
99abc8 No.15151564
>>15148535
I did a re run of this last month and I fucking love it even more ,last time I completed this I was around 14 ,didn't know english that well and wasn't into /pol/itics
First mission briefing,"This is a new kind of terrorist ,he believes in information warfare" ,And at that point I knew that I am going to enjoy the game
Changing speed with the scroll is still great ,I noticed that if you walk to the sides you make more noise on the same speed than just turning your mouse to turn , which I assume is because of how you would sneak with a controller
There were 2 thing I didn't like about the game:
1.Every time you knock out a guard you can hear his radio going "Are you ok guard X , guard X respond , I think we have a man down" but nothing happens,Maybe they changed their plans during development
2.I have no fucking idea how to do Bathhouse on 100% with the enemies in the last part being aware of you all the time and it made my final score 98%
There is also a problem that a lot of games have which is connected to being a saving bitch ,the alarm state sometimes doesn't noticed that you loaded a save were you didn't get detected yet
574c9e No.15151621
b64645 No.15151901
>>15150713
Wew, neat cameo. Does this mean they're going to make another splinter cell? Why didn't Ironside do the 2013 game?
efadbb No.15151903
>>15151901
>Does this mean they're going to make another splinter cell?
If they are it's not for a while, they gave us bupkis at E3.
7fae45 No.15151979
>>15151901
Ironside was disgusted with Sam's character progression in Conviction and quit the project. He was a big part of Sam's character in the first 3 games, he had the writers rewrite a lot of things because he didn't like the original character and added a lot of Sam's humour.
80c94a No.15152016
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15147758
Do you have the one that also have The Dark Mod recommended levels?
>Only one mention of The Dark Mod on stealth game thread.
Whats wrong with all of you? Above it being the closest thing to a proper Thief sequel, its Free.
Legally.
6b6394 No.15152094
>>15150697
> The perfect social stealth game with NPCs involved will never happen because "AI" is not truly AI it's just shitty fuzzy logic and can and will be gamed.
That's not why a social stealth game is hard to do at all; it basically boils down entirely to writing and building the levels to accommodate for as many possibilities as possible. The coding for it shouldn't be harder then making different states for NPCs taking into account the dialogue trees vs what you're "supposed" to do for your disguise vs what you're caught doing. How many variables and states you'd need to account for that goes back to the writing.
f4287f No.15152141
>>15150962
That's Konami's job anon
c576b4 No.15152155
>>15148390
>>15148428
>>15148531
Everyone laugh at the Kojimacucks
>B-B-BUT MUH GAYMES
Last I checked, hour long cutscenes book-ended by easy mode stealth make for pretty shit games.
>>>/cuckchan/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/resetera/
Those places should serve your need to jerk off his latest upcoming shitfest.
>>15151979
Ironside actually had a cancer scare around Blacklist's development and couldn't make time to record voices for it. I don't think he's that invested in the character, he just knows it's a role that can get easily cast for because it's popular and ensures him a paycheck.
c576b4 No.15152166
>>15142870
Also no, MGS and Siphon Filter are not remotely close to being pinnacles of stealth. This is >>15148535
b64645 No.15152180
>>15151903
They'd probably fuck it up, I want to guess Ubi is made up of 80% of women. Blacklist wasn't too bad but it's missing all the charm the old ones had.
>>15151979
Checks out. Neat seeing him in Ghost Recon I had no idea he did that.
>>15152016
No, I hate the dark mod, it's incredibly clunky and doesn't play as well as Thief. I appreciat their effort on the lockpicking game but fuck that, it's not intuitive or fun.
720234 No.15152183
Is no one going to talk about how Gabriel Logan took out a fucking attack helicopter with an assault rifle?
efadbb No.15152185
>>15152180
>Blacklist wasn't too bad
It was pretty bad anon. Better than conviction, but still such a massive mechanical step down.
439fde No.15152187
>>15150697
>>15152094
>social stealth
hitman is not a social stealth game, it's a stealth game.
c576b4 No.15152191
>>15152180
>Blacklist wasn't too bad
kys ubicuck
f4287f No.15152199
>>15152155
>Even more politics
>Further proves to not having played any MGS
b64645 No.15152203
>>15152185
>>15152191
I went in not expecting classic SC, it's obvious shit compared, but on it's own it's a 6.5-7
39c5eb No.15152219
>>15152191
Hey, my guy, you do know that sage isn't a dovnvote, right? You do know that?
e3bdf7 No.15152266
>>15152155
>politics moving to the right
171c66 No.15152326
>>15148343
>everything is dumb and easy for a leet keed like me lol
You are the reason why socjus is able to infiltrate gaming communities. Always bitching about nothing, just like a kike or a woman. Eventually the attention whoring here won't be enough and you'll make the big jump into identity politics.
171c66 No.15152728
>hitman
>HITMAN
>FUCKING HITMAN
HITMAN IS NOT STEALTH, YOU COCKSUCKERS
STEALTH IS ABOUT REMAINING UNSEEN
HITMAN IS JUST A FUCKING TRAVENSTITE
61aa5f No.15152745
>>15148535
Splinter Cell sucks balls compared to MGS.
I haven't played Thief, but I'm sure it's overrated trash like every other (((Western))) game.
2eb8ae No.15153097
4b2c94 No.15153112
>>15150603
That requires me to play the game past 2015 though, why would I do that?
2eb8ae No.15153214
>>15153112
collecting swimsuits
f4287f No.15153221
>>15153112
To have fun anon
21f299 No.15153277
>>15152016
Something feels off about the dark mod. The controls aren't as smooth and the graphics actually hurt my eyes. Like the textures are way too high quality for the models and lighting. I think the physics in the game are also unreliable, like if you blackjack a guard he plummets like a rock and his armor makes a ton of noise.
97424c No.15153286
>>15142870
It would have been great if it didn't have forced human resource management bullshit.
321d06 No.15153361
Before and after transformation using Cheat Engine
Skullface is turning people into zombies, I turn them into female and impregnate them
97424c No.15153370
>>15153361
A weapon to surpass Metal Gear.
f4287f No.15153388
>>15153286
the resource management only makes it better tbh. I want more games to use this concept. Private mercenaries building their own comfy bases and doing tacticool operations against targets or even other PMCs.
c576b4 No.15153404
>>15152199
>Enjoys movies that are crammed with muh politics
>whines muh politics don't matter!
>further proves he has shit taste
>>15152745
(You)
f4287f No.15153421
>>15153404
>Enjoys movies that are crammed with muh politics
?
fbd3c8 No.15153471
>>15153214
that take a fucking week to research!
171c66 No.15153476
>>15153421
>leaves politics to leftists to discuss
>is surprised everywhere in media is just lefty politics
To play vidya is one thing, but to never grow up to understand anything BUT vidya is a tragedy
21f299 No.15153488
>>15153476
Its kinda sad really. Almost all the great games where completely apolitical and had an innocence and purity to them you wont see today. But being apolitical also created a vacuum for leftists to shove their shit in.
c576b4 No.15153558
>>15153421
>Kojimacuck this retarded he can't see the blatant as fuck "politics" crammed into his movie games
>whines MUH POLITICS DONT MATTER even after Kojicuck rambles about muh right wing and takes his knee
Figures you're an oblivious retard like your failed film director.
3f6f8d No.15153609
>>15151564
>I have no fucking idea how to do Bathhouse on 100% with the enemies in the last part being aware of you all the time and it made my final score 98%
You have to do some silly shit, I suggest looking up a guide, the big trick is playing with the smoke grenades.
f4287f No.15153643
>>15153558
>blatant as fuck "politics" crammed into his movie games
Such as?
c1922a No.15153778
Thief 2: The Metal Age is the pinnacle of stealth to this very day.
4d39dc No.15153863
>>15148535
Chaos Theory I'm kind of mixed on. On one hand it's just more refined in general and has a shitton of options open to you throughout the vast majority of the game. On the other hand, it feels like godmode compared to SC1 (or PT I guess). I really like it, but it's doesn't quite pressure me the same way the others did.
>>15151901
I don't want another SC until they fix the shit with Conviction at the very least. Preferably eliminate Double Agent too; angsty MUH DAUGHTER Sam reeks of edgy Hollywood cliche bullshit, and Conviction goes full edgelord retardation. Didn't someone in production say that they were going for a Jason Bourne feel with Conviction?
They should have just left his daughter alone and had him keep derailing conspiracies to fuck over the world.
21f299 No.15153925
>>15153863
How does SC1 pressure you? It's just a linear sequence of stealth scenarios. You basically have to figure out what the devs wanted you to do to get past x group of guards. Or it was shitty forced gunfights.
b2088c No.15153970
>>15153097
What about him? He was a lifelong democrat, he didn't change, politics did.
4d39dc No.15154107
>>15153925
Your options are a lot more limited. In CT, you get the 20k from the getgo and have a bandolier of I WIN buttons that you can use whenever you feel like it, even moreso if you pick the stealth loadout, and the pistol has the infinite-use function that can temporarily fuck up any electronic including cameras and even the death drones flying around during the Korea segment. No matter how you cut it, CT was already easier than SC1 through sheer gear generosity, and that's before giving you contextual options like overhead pipes that often trivialized whatever room you were trying to get through.
That's what I was getting at when I described CT as like being on godmode.
72bf68 No.15154406
>>15154107
Not to mention the sound meter, which took all the guesswork out of sneaking. Every map had at least one guard staring at a wall with a radio on behind him that you could run circles around silently.
Also one button takedowns were shit and SC1 had it right where you had to at least get behind an enemy to KO him.
21f299 No.15154416
Wow. I didn't realize just how shit the Thieves Guild level was until I tried doing a run through without using the blackjack.
bd81d0 No.15154443
>>15151901
From my understanding, Ironside didn't like the characterization of Sam in Blacklist, Ubisoft wanted to use a younger actor that could do stunts for motion capture, and Ironside had cancer at the time.
72bf68 No.15154452
>>15150678
I think this was an addon for Ghost Recon Wildlands, not a Splinter Cell game.
72bf68 No.15154472
This was the best part of Chaos Theory.
Sadly it's around the end of Amon Tobin's good output, I liked his first 3 albums way better than anything that came after.
bd81d0 No.15154512
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Anyone remember how there was a Splinter Cell movie? It's still happening and now has Tom Hardy. Also the MGS movie just got an update.
21f299 No.15154520
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15154472
The soundtrack reminds me of TF2 because of this tutorial oddly enough.
207f3b No.15154539
>>15145120
>I'd also like to see Social Stealth done a lot better than we usually get. Simply being capable of bullshiting your way into anywhere, win the trust of everyone to betray them afterwards, pull off disguises and personas to walk amongst guards and civilians at will, etc. Gathering information to know what to say, keeping your story together so your lies aren't discovered but also having to lie or it's all gonna be traced back to you, it's all neat gameplay to add onto a game.
Isn't this what Clandestine does sometimes? I remember seeing a video where the agent player poses as an IT worker while the hacker player creates a bunch of problems the agent player is supposed to be there to "fix" and you have to pick the right dialog options to bluff your way in.
72bf68 No.15154543
>>15154512
Did anyone care who Sam was before he put on the goggles?
72bf68 No.15154599
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15154520
What track is in that tutorial?
Embed for your listening pleasure.
31566a No.15154640
>>15145120
Your social stealth description reminds me of Planescape Torment a lot, specifically of a cha/int playthrough. Dialogue with powerful beings like Many-As-One is an exercise in diplomacy in that game.
bc546d No.15154707
I'll probably catch shit for playing such a title, but I figure Sniper Elite 4 could have been a pretty good game had they polished it a bit. It's pretty casual, but has some neat mechanics. On harder difficulties you have to compensate for gravity and wind. In order to stay stealthy you can time your shot to coincide with loud noises and you are rewarded for keeping enemies guessing. I think it's at least worth a pirate.
e4d25d No.15154713
I played Conviction. I didn't like it, but I still finished the main story and every coop mission including dlc.
b8356b No.15154764
>>15154520
o shit i remember that video, inspired me to play spy
fb07b7 No.15154800
>>15154707
>On harder difficulties you have to compensate for gravity and wind.
>you can time your shot to coincide with loud noises
>rewarded for keeping enemies guessing
sounds like TECHNOLOGY to me
3f6f8d No.15154805
>>15153863
>>15154107
So just don't use the godmode tools. Don't get me wrong, I see what you're saying, but personally I play Chaos Theory 100% ghost stealth without touching a single guard if I can avoid it. Nothing says pressure like leaving every guard alive and patrolling.
21f299 No.15154826
>>15154599
Several of them. I think battery theme is most prominent though.
>>15154764
It got me to play TF2 in the first place.
b64972 No.15154832
>>15154707
I only played the original Sniper Elite and it had all of that shit too, with also being able to fine tune difficulty, like for example making it so that bullets don't drop due to gravity, but being unaffected by wind and other crazy shit like that. Also, shooting just as lightning struck would mask both your gunshot and muzzleflash.
bc546d No.15154870
>>15154832
I've played 3 and am currently playing 4. I have a bad habit of getting games just to scratch an itch. I think it would be a lot better if the AI was a bit smarter. The gameplay gets sort of bumbly when you get less than 50 meters from the enemy. Other than that it is extremely satisfying to place you shots without the assistance of emptying your lungs and compensation for wind. I must admit those cutscenes are quite satisfying when you pull the trigger and they play. That spit second before it plays is like it's saying CORRECT.
bc546d No.15154882
>it is extremely satisfying to place you shots without the assistance of emptying your lungs and compensation for wind.
That is to say I like having to compensate for wind. I worded that incorrectly.
c17efd No.15158768
>>15154870
I remember the original game also being quite tough, but I dunno if that was because I was shit or something else. If you fucked up even slightly you'd just get swarmed like a motherfucker and unlike in later games you couldn't just use the easy distraction options that you have in all modern stealth games, you basically had to do everything legit.
315d12 No.15158788
>>15147520
>ywn slot some floppies with /v/
feels sad man
0f367b No.15158853
>>15153471
You can make it instant with mods IIRC
0f367b No.15158860
>>15153361
>making an army of tranies
Do the mods add dilation stations to your base as well?
c9ac68 No.15159194
>>15154512
>Not picking Michael Ironside as a grizzled veteran out on his last mission
Fuck Hollywood, i already played the games, they were fucking great and they would never come close to the experiences i had beating them rather than watching some shitty generic movie.
c9ac68 No.15159210
>>15154707
>Shooting people
>Being stealthy
I guess you don't play on the hardest difficulty, ghosting.
48d13d No.15159260
Is this game even worth a torrent? heard it was dogshit
99abc8 No.15159882
Something important is going on , I am getting 504 and 502 all the time
daa2cf No.15159890
>>15153643
You’re kidding, right?
753b11 No.15159893
>>15159882
It might be a cuckflare problem, I was getting that on other sites too.
99abc8 No.15159902
>>15152185
My biggest problem with Blacklist was being able to rerun the first mission and earn money everytime ,I bought all the gear right away
f4287f No.15160036
>>15159890
Either explain it or fuck off faggot
2eb8ae No.15163285