bcb45b No.15123094
DON'T FORGET TO SUPPORT THE GAMES, BUT DON'T FALL FOR THE NISA BULLSHIT
>Latest News
- The Ao no Kiseki fan translation was leaked. It's higher quality than the Zero leak and minus a typo here and there and the odd awkward line it's pretty good quality. https://www.romhacking.net/translations/3679/
- The PC port of Ys: Memories of Celceta releases on July 25th, 2018.
- The Switch port of Ys VIII released with a litany of bugs, including not even having dual audio (NISA's sole claim to fame) at launch.
- After an email campaign, a retranslation, apologies, and 7 months of delays, Ys 8 finally got released on PC. And NISA fucked up, the port is so terrible that only 51% of the Steam reviews being positive (it was originally at 25%, but shills will shill). Western and Japanese websites are reporting this story. In other words, a huge backlash. Meanwhile, NISA promised to fix everything. Don't worry, they'll probably be able to fix in a few weeks what they couldn't fix in 1.5 years. Absolutely. Ha.
- Trails of Cold Steel I & II is now on PC through Steam and GOG with gameplay enhancements and newly voiced lines of dialogue.
- Ys Seven ported to PC by XSEED, available now on Steam/GOG/Humble Store
- Ys: Memories of Celceta ported to PC by XSEED, coming this summer
- Zwei!! and Zwei II are finally released on PC by XSEED, available now on Steam/GOG/Humble Store
- Tokyo Xanadu released on PS4/PC with an improved translation, but there are a few issues like slangs, memes and random chtulhu lines.
- Also available on PC: the Trails in the Sky trilogy (now with Turbo mode), Xanadu Next, Ys: I & II Chronicles, Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim, Ys: The Oath in Felghana and Ys Origin.
- Trails of Cold Steel 4: The End of Saga to release in the fall of 2018 in Japan.
- XSEED's E3 2018's line-up includes a "PC/PS4/PS4 Pro RPG".
>Fan-translations
>Trails from Zero at 70% (being edited by Geofront/Zerk)
>Trails to Azure was leaked. There are a few typos and every once in a while there's an awkward line or two but all in all it's a solid translation. https://www.romhacking.net/translations/3679/
>Everything else in the works seems to be MIA.
>Undubs
- Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection
https://mega.nz/#!Bw5SURQK!fsrMwjX72trMpoXK3Vx6kKn7cgcj1h5sf5E1OSqgA0s
- Trails of Cold Steel: JP voices + Dummy files (Required to write over the newly recorded English dialogue)
https://mega.nz/#!WkUyhDbb!B8dXNO2aBwNHibQ7tjTCyQLrX-bbBUV2jkZVUYxJ0Q4
https://mega.nz/#!AoVmhDoL!h7fYCD14LQD14Ema9zWVvqHZegYJX2PF9EYWbn3x-DM
Magnet: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6A260B5B9AA460EB5A71AA88A5B314583DF419D4
-Trails of Cold Steel 2: JP voices + Dummy Files (same as above)
https://mega.nz/#!ywdFnKSD!c9E15HA0bRqU-5kro8gmqcQeRBg8Priqjv3d7dX0W5U
https://mega.nz/#!x11giKyL!ucCRM3OkmGQGbpRdVGdYeg-svzJ7cgUEuFzT2TaQyD8
Mega of every undub: https://mega.nz/#F!k5ZjwTCD!A4Uyb67OpQQ_qCoB-zvx0g
Merge the JP voices and Dummy files into one folder and dump that folder into the voice folder.
>Falcom pastebin (download links for scans, Falcom Magazine volumes, soundtracks and more)
pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
a9ee66 No.15123284
Does Tokyo Xanadu Ex+ or whatever fix most of the localization problems?
bcb45b No.15123470
>>15123284
From what I understand, no, it doesn't really change the script at all. Fukkleducks and such is still there.
21ae73 No.15123766
And here I thought Zero was going to be done in a jiffy.
d6edd7 No.15124035
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky," 254,152 "
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC," 37,625 "
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd," 14,844 "
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel," 47,881 "
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II," 17,349 "
Ys I & II Chronicles+," 140,737 "
Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim," 36,523 "
Ys SEVEN," 11,563 "
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA / ‹â_‹Ä_‹â_VIII-Lacrimosa of DANA-," 8,874 "
Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure," 49,773 "
Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection," 3,466 "
Zwei: The Arges Adventure," 2,229 "
Tokyo Xanadu eX+," 10,220 "
Xanadu Next," 8,093 "
>tfw the Zwei games and Xanadu Next are amazing but no one buys them
Why, /v/?
fc03ec No.15124046
>>15124035
I heard xanadu was shit and heard nothing about zwei
b24421 No.15124064
>>15124035
>the_land_with_no_taste.jpg
>>15124046
What Xanadu? If it's Next, you heard wrong.
ac7d7f No.15124067
>>15124046
Tokyo Xanadu's the so-so one. Xanadu Next did nothing wrong.
d6edd7 No.15124080
>>15124046
>there are retards now that use "Xanadu" to refer to Tokyo Xanadu
Do yourself a favor and get Xanadu Next, it's a great game.
fc03ec No.15124098
>>15124064
>>15124067
>>15124080
I have it confused with Tokyo Xanadu apparently.
Does it play like Ys?
Also how's Zwei, shit looks too cute for my taste, but if the gameplay,story, and music are good id give it a shot.
d6edd7 No.15124130
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>>15124098
Imagine a game like Diablo, but having full control of your character (instead of giving it orders like "go here" "attack this") and the main thing is to bait enemies into attacking you, then you avoid the attack and hit their backs, which is what you'll want to do always for extra damage and to have 100% accuracy on your attacks. Then you have stats points for leveling up, gear to wear, guardians and multiple items with different benefits. Lastly, the game's map is pure Metroidvania and some key items will let you open new routes to old and new places. The story is pretty light and mysterious, but it's also good. It's the only direct sequel to the original Xanadu game from… 1985? but you don't need to play it.
The Zwei games may look cute but they are full of humor and fun to play. The story in Zwei!! is pretty small but Zwei II has a much better plot with some twists. The main thing about Zwei is the leveling system: you eat food to level up. But the food you get can be saved for later, because if you get back to the town, you can change it for better food that gives you way more experience. So it's a constant fight between eating or not the food. Alsoo both games have a lot of stupid extra shit (like a TV screen to watch what your pet does, or how many steps you've taken in the game) but that's the charming of the games.
6c46a2 No.15124283
>>15124035
>both zwei's barely break 5,600 sales
Steam's userbase is literally tasteless. It is a bit reassuring that YS VIII barely sold more then Xanadu Next even though Next deserves more sales to.
ac7d7f No.15124290
We need the GOG numbers to know how much they really sold. :^)
17969a No.15124683
>>15124283
Ys VIII is 60$ and never went on sale yet unlike those games
It made about 540K in revenue and will likely make more
People are actual retards
5a75d5 No.15124729
>>15124683
Can't wait for more ys games by NISA.
a9ee66 No.15124747
>>15124729
It will stop when customers get some goddamn principles
fc03ec No.15124752
>>15124130
Alright got you, ill check it out tonight. Though im still not sure about Zwei
7381ed No.15124756
>>15124747
So you're saying it will never stop?
79863d No.15124758
>>15124747
We're fucking doomed.
5f01b9 No.15124781
>>15124683
>It made about 540K in revenue and will likely make more
You're forgetting NISA went through two separate 3rd party contracts to fix the port that's not even stable still. 200K of that is probably sunk into the company they hired after it's launch mess.
a9ee66 No.15124886
>>15124781
>two separate 3rd party contracts
When was this?
I remember they handed it off to a porting company but what was the second one?
More importantly where's the 200K number coming from?
ca9449 No.15124983
>>15123284
Playing through it right now, yes it still has memes in there. That said, at least for me it's not THAT bad, like Neptunia Re;birth 2 bad, I was expecting worse (maybe my standards were too low, who knows). The memes are there occasionally, not frequently, and the rest is kind of fine from what I can tell.
cb0bbb No.15125003
>>15124886
>More importantly where's the 200K number coming from?
He said "probably", so he was obviously estimating.
a9ee66 No.15125009
>>15125003
I know that fag, I'm asking where the fuck a 200K estimate comes from
cb0bbb No.15125053
>>15125009
Obviously a sum he made up, you faggot.
a9ee66 No.15125140
>>15125053
A number made up out of thin air is literally meaningless and useless to everyone.
bcb45b No.15125175
>>15125140
None of us knows the exact amount to hire 3rd parties, anon, bit it's likely not insubstantial and I'm still willing to bet that figure is well below what what NISA was hoping for. You're coming close to black-pilling with your "NISA has won" attitude, anon. They've fucked up hard and their fuckups have been highly public and they are a common topic of ridicule. The Falcom Twitter still hasn't brought up the PC port, so stop getting so demoralized because a few shills bought a game.
a9ee66 No.15125346
>>15125175
>accusing me of blackpilling
You nigger, we don't know if NISA has won or lost on this yet is what I'm saying and that's important because people get complacent when they think they've won
Case in point, they've went from mostly negative to mixed on Ys VIII's steam page, and nobody has been able to respond to my request last thread for an email address for Falcom that actually fucking works
Spouting numbers or random speculation is a bigger waste of time than anything. To this day people are still speculating about made Falcom give NISA their contracts when its admitted outright by their President that it was the offer of a French localization that made him give it to NISA (Along with them being friends as well, with NIS's president being especially insistent)
Nothing mentioned about contract bidding amounts, promised arrival times or anything, that's all meaningless without anything to back it up
00451d No.15125382
>>15123094
Why do anime girls always get stuck in places they can't fit?
e040e1 No.15125394
21ae73 No.15125505
I'm finally done with Trails to Zero. I felt it didn't really get going until the last third, but I still enjoyed it.
Now it's too late so I'm might write something more substantial after sleeping on it.
ac7d7f No.15125531
>>15125505
Trails from Zero* :^)
ac7d7f No.15125540
>>15125505
But yeah, the last third was definitely the best part.
f6a206 No.15125554
Man these series have too many games, too intimidating.
bcb45b No.15125558
>>15125346
Personally, anon, the number of sales for Ys VIII is far lower than I was expecting. I was thinking they had topped 10k at least, so I'm not nearly as brought down by these figures as you seem to be. I asked for the email too last thread and didn't get anything. As for reviews, sadly that's fairly common. Typically products hit with bad reviews early on tend to recover over time. I guess the only thing people could do is make lots and lots of dummy accounts?
5b6dc3 No.15125679
>>15124035
I don't think the numbers for Tits1 and Gurumin should be considered usable "sales" figures since Gurumin was given away for free to greenlight voters and I believe Tits1 has been bundled several times.
>>15125558
It also only counting Steam numbers. obviously
Did you you forget NISA also handled the PS4 and Switch releases? Do you have sales numbers for those?
I'm guessing most of NISA's sales were from console anyway, particularly the Switch, because the soy demographic is the exact group to take that sort of shit and be ok with it.
39183e No.15125694
>>15123766
I love the Crossbell games. They are beyond the average gamer though- it requires reading and attention span. Thank Aidios I'm not a millenial.
39183e No.15125698
>>15124035
I buy games on GOG. And I bought Xanadu Next.
61ae49 No.15125720
>>15125679
True, console sales tend to be the bulk. However that also goes for Cold Steel too.
a9ee66 No.15125746
>>15125679
Any game that's popular and been out for a while will get bundled
TitS 1 was the breakout game for trails on PC, of course it sold well
5b6dc3 No.15125907
>>15125720
I'm not concerned with Cold Steel's "lack" of sales so much as I am suggesting caution with Ys VIII's "lack" of sales. on PC
They've lived through this shit before, celebrating early leads to NISA recovering. It isn't over until NISA is radioactive worldwide, including France, or gone entirely, before that point they can and will always recover.
>>15125746
>Any game that's popular and been out for a while will get bundled
I'm aware of that. That isn't the point I was making.
What I'm saying is, even going solely by PC numbers, celebration for a NISA flop is too early. There are still dumbshits who will defend NISA on the grounds that
<they fixed it, it's not as bad as on launch
I'm talking about those "sales figures" because, as far as I know, those are the numbers that were leaked from the Steam API which measures ownership, not sales.
Gurumin likely sold close to zero copies on PC because, as I said earlier, everybody who voted for it on Greenlight got a copy for free.
254,152 TitS owners sounds impressive however it is likely that a decent chunk of those owners got it from a bundle The humble monthly bundle specifically, which doesn't show games before it's released which is less money than a full price sale from Steam/GoG/etc going to XSEED/Falcom directly.
Bundles will also generally still be purchased by people who weren't specifically interested in TitS and didn't buy other releases. This is shown somewhat in the steep dropoff in ownership from FC to SC however that obviously that isn't the sole reason in ownership decline
I'm not attacking XSEED or Falcom. I'm merely trying to encourage caution with incomplete data.
8f3630 No.15125972
If dubs NISA get's Sen III
fc03ec No.15125991
>>15125972
bitch you jinxed us
6fb7de No.15126380
>>15125831
>When the tomboy gets out of puberty.
4bf044 No.15126526
fuck there's so many damn games I just started Trials of Cold steel, I have that first crossbell game on my psp but i haven't past the prologue. Judging from the pics, do they intertwine in the 4th cold steel game or somethin?
05f5de No.15126542
>>15126526
Every arc starts getting intertwined heavily in Cold Steel 3 and to a lesser extent in 2.
6c46a2 No.15126598
>>15125831
Josette a cute A CUTE.
f7524a No.15126685
Please post more Falcom ass
6c46a2 No.15126705
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ac7d7f No.15126712
>>15126705
>someone saved my edit
nice
7c98ae No.15126925
>>15125907
Anon NISA isn't going to die. I never thought there was a chance of that. NIS sustains them too much. I can believe, however, that this experience will make them look toxic to Falcom. The biggest thing is the Switch, though. The Switch overnight has basically become the system for casual weebs. Ys 8 will probably at least do decently on it. XSeed really should look into porting their Falcom games to it. They'd make money, I'm sure.
a9ee66 No.15127045
>>15126925
if Xseed isn't aware that the Switch is a money-making machine by now then there's no hope for them
I wish a real goddamn handheld would come out from someone now that the Vita is all but dead and the 3DS too
3e3cc2 No.15127053
>>15126695
She must have had Mexican If the gas is keeping her ass flag up like that.
5b6dc3 No.15127375
>>15126925
I know NISA won't die but they could at least be relegated to only fucking up NIS releases as much as that is even possible and being the physical distributors of LE for small publishers.
It may only be a couple of devs now but it could reasonably expand over a few months or years until the only releases NISA gets are the most casual of casual weeb releases.
d70c87 No.15128947
>>15123284
Was ex just a remade version of the vita one? I am currently playing on vita and wondering what major changes were made between them? After playing sen no kiseki I and II, i am far too comfy to play it on PC.
05f5de No.15128970
>>15128947
New playable characters and a new chapter.
21ae73 No.15128988
How do I get Azure to not display fucked up text?
a9ee66 No.15128992
>>15128947
I heard that it was supposed to have a much improved translation
05f5de No.15128998
>>15128992
Again, you heard wrong from people trying to damage control.
a8f606 No.15129009
>>15128992
>>15124983
As far as I can tell, there's literally NO changes to the script. All the memes/typos/bullshit like fukkleducks people posted about in the vita version are still present.
d38db9 No.15129011
>>15125746
TitS sold well because Japanese games on PC were fashionable back then.
Personally I thinl sales numbers mean little, I doubt many of the buyers ever finished it.
2b530a No.15129022
a9ee66 No.15129038
>>15128998
>>15129009
I've been hearing otherwise, and I've never really heard oprainfall to be untrustworthy
http://operationrainfall.com/2017/12/20/251674/
Plus it even says in the OP that the translation was improved
>- Tokyo Xanadu released on PS4/PC with an improved translation, but there are a few issues like slangs, memes and random chtulhu lines.
But now I keep hearing that nothing in terms of the script or translation was changed and I don't know what to think anymore.
I know Aksys isn't good but these kinds of mixed messages isn't helping at all
05f5de No.15129047
>>15129038
That line in the OP was thrown in there because of confusion on whether or not things were changed in Ex+. I have yet to see anything changed. Until I do see actual proof and not just people going "trust me, my man" I am going with the option of skepticism.
a8f606 No.15129245
>>15129038
I've played through the game and done mostly everything that can be done without ng+, I can confirm that all the slang, memes and cthulu shit is still in. Any improvements to the localization would probably be regarding things like typos or grammar mistakes, but that really doesn't address the real issue with the localization, which is aforementioned slang and memes.
21ae73 No.15129279
>>15129022
Thank you kind sir, have a Shizuki.
Don't mind the odd tiles, it hides a little spoiler.
bcb45b No.15129706
I wonder what cargo they're bringing into Erebonia…
a42735 No.15129767
>>15129706
A load of debts.
38667d No.15130054
I currently do not have a computer powerful enough to play any of the Ys games on PC so I was thinking of playing the SNES Ys.
Which one should I check out? III, IV or V?
05f5de No.15130168
>>15130054
The original Ys III is shit, Dawn of Ys is the better Ys IV releases at that time I believe and I haven’t played V.
21ae73 No.15130250
I think Elie's boobs got bigger since I last saw her.
bcb45b No.15130283
>>15130250
You aren't the only one who noticed.
d288f8 No.15130289
>>15125382
Because a sizable portion of nip artists like ass for some reason. Do they not know that tits are life?
bcb45b No.15130331
>>15130289
But that's why Rixia is great, because she has both.
53f462 No.15130363
What is the appeal of those games?
556ed3 No.15130392
>>15130363
>Those
You'll need to be more specific.
6e74fd No.15130396
>>15130363
I think Ys is a nice pure action hack/slash.
I wanted to start from the beggining so I started from PC version of the first Ys, and oh boy, is the combat broken.
Who the fuck came up with that system?
I dropped it because of that, but a friend that saw me playing was autistic enough to power trough both it and the second one.
Nowadays he's been playing them all and said the combat gets very good on the later ones, even showed me some bossfight where you actually attack the enemy with an actual attack animation.
I've been meaning to try the series again, but was shoved right in the end of the backlog line.
If annyone has a recommended list of the Ys games chronologically but with the versions that have actual functional combat I might give it a go since I'm feeling like playing some action RPG.
9a7863 No.15130415
>>15130363
Trails Series: Long burn series of JRPGs with gradual character development (on a huge cast, to boot) alongside diligent and consistent worldbuilding. It pays off if you become invested in either (or both).
Ys: Didn't like the old ones with the weird bump system, but from Ark of Naphistim onwards they became decent action-adventure/RPGs.
Other games: no fucking idea since I didn't play any of them
a9ee66 No.15130540
>>15130363
Play them (with patience) and find out faggot
1cc26e No.15130712
>>15128970
Thanks for the tips anon, guess ill just suck it up and play it next time on pc. Vita is just so comfy to play on like i said. On that note, why the fuck do i feel like im playing rean in a modern tokyo setting and why the hell does towa exist??
ac7d7f No.15130747
>>15128947
>>15128970
>>15128992
There are also a bunch of gameplay changes, like a new attack you use by pressing R2 that gives i-frames and a new higher difficulty setting.
fc03ec No.15131490
>>15130396
>If annyone has a recommended list of the Ys games chronologically but with the versions that have actual functional combat
shit out of luck in that regard.
Just try ys 3 oath in felghana PC version.
You don't need to know the story of the games because its all self contained.
bcb45b No.15132767
Could this be an extremely blurry gypsy? Find out on Thursday.
21ae73 No.15133281
We are about to enter levels of shit's about to go down that shouldn't be possible.
05f5de No.15134812
>>15132767
I don’t know if it’s just wonky lighting and the blurriness, but her skin looks whiter than it should be if it is Schera. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
b2e717 No.15135989
>>15133281
No way. Fuck me, I don't think I can wait to play Zero/Azure any longer.
bcb45b No.15136126
Hold on to your butts, the Brights are being revealed for CS4. Expect pics in the next 24 hours.
d6edd7 No.15136844
>>15136767
We really need HQ scans, don't we
f6fbc7 No.15137216
>>15135989
You don't have to. Unedited translation for Zero no kiseki is out.
d6edd7 No.15137220
>>15137125
He looks like fucking Sen III Rean lol
d6edd7 No.15137221
>>15137216
>playing with that shitty translation
People like you is why NISA has a chance on taking over Falcom games
d6edd7 No.15137224
>>15137223
How much does NISA pay you?
d6edd7 No.15137230
>>15137227
Then you are a fucking autist with some weird hate against a fan translation team for no reason.
b2e717 No.15137378
>>15137216
>>15137218
I want to play the fan-translation that the OP purports to be at 70% completion. I'm not aware of any others being done. Would you say the unedited tranlation is serviceable?
>>15137235
>I try things for myself and decide on my own whether or not something is worth my time
I don't want to get started on Zero only to discover it's translation is poor as I feel this would spoil my experience.
05f5de No.15137537
>>15137220
You’re blind.
>>15137221
You’re a fucking dipshit if you honestly believe a fan translation has any bearing on whether an actual company gets to bring over games or not.
d6edd7 No.15137552
>>15137537
>You’re a fucking dipshit if you honestly believe a fan translation has any bearing on whether an actual company gets to bring over games or not.
And you are retarded by not understand the point: people being ok with shitty translations.
>>15137235
>I'm a rational human being.
>every patch release that isn't theirs is automatically shit
>I'm rational but I'm going to make up bullshit, even if the leaked Zero patch was utter trash with lines such as "cum shot" or "eating a cousin"
Maybe you should try killing yourself, altinafag.
ac7d7f No.15137560
>>15137197
Her dress looks like Alisa's and it's annoying me.
9a160c No.15137974
05f5de No.15137983
>>15137125
>Last image
"And that's why you will always be the worst Sora girl."
a8f606 No.15138209
>>15137974
Accusations that if you're waiting for the Geofront release you're a Geofront shill, "I bet you voted trump" and cuckchan filenames.
fd9541 No.15138286
>>15130331
is this version of ao on pc?
fd9541 No.15138298
>>15130331
where the fuck did my post go
i thought that was a screenshot from ao, but then i looked it up and now i regret not buying cs2 when it was on sale
dec783 No.15138338
5b6dc3 No.15138541
>>15137537
>You’re a fucking dipshit if you honestly believe a fan translation has any bearing on whether an actual company gets to bring over games or not.
Isn't JAST USA known for almost exclusively bringing over shit that's already been fan translated?
They even brought over Eiyuu*Senki instead of Eiyuu*Senki Gold when Gold was nearly the exact same game with additional content.
the difference was Eiyuu*Senki had previously been translated by both a professional studio for the ps3/all ages version and a fan patch translated the 18+ content
Not to say every company operates like that but I'm guessing a statistically significant portion probably do take partial/fan patches and "edit" them with "flavor" before reselling it.
21ae73 No.15138595
>>15138536
I think she wears to much clothing for her to be Schera.
bcb45b No.15138612
>>15138541
No one is going to bring over the beta Zero translation. For starters it's way too messy. I only reccomend it to the desperate, as it at least conveys the meaning most of the time. However it's full of extremely awkward dialogue, like pic related. The Ao leak is cleaner, though still very awkward at times. For instance, Guren and Flame have no idea how to deal with honorifics, so they just literally translate them. So there's a lot of stuff like "Randy bro" or "senior Randy." Think of it as bad 90s subs, pretty much.
5b6dc3 No.15138637
>>15138612
Yeah but if you're a shitty (((localization))) outfit that doesn't matter when you can just do shit like
>replace all dialogue with "…"
>We wanted to give it "flavor" so we gave everybody regional speech patterns even where it makes no sense
>We translated it as literally as possible to appease the PURISTS so blame them and we won't do this next time
bcb45b No.15138643
>>15138637
Anon I haven't heard of a company doing that in quite a while. Not even (((NISA))).
fe0731 No.15138700
>>15138541
At least it provides a way to give the original devs some money because fanslated shit is almost always pirated
Does JAST USA provide anything else with their fanslated games like additional CGs from the original artists, features that weren't seen before or any goodies or anything?
The way I see it is if they have the original creator's blessing and the fanslators get paid, everyone wins
05f5de No.15138705
>>15138643
Disregard the dipshits who don’t know how shit works. Fucking faggots trying spread fear and paranoia into the community. Fuck ‘em.
21ae73 No.15138770
>>15138643
I think the "…" he is referring to is the fire emblem fates (I think) by nintendo treehouse.
They also thought rewriting a character to be obsessed with pickles was a good idea.
295beb No.15138835
>>15138770
Fates story wise was a mess, and the localization only made it worse. I bought a Japanese copy just to avoid the localization, even though I cannot read a single sentence. Removing features because it might scare western people, changing personalities to appeal to "western" tastes, while also changing conversations for no apparent reason at all.
>>15138612
Having the voice lines modded into the game helps quite a bit when trying to understand the tone and context of the slightly awkwardly translated sentences.
f6fbc7 No.15138881
>>15137221
Sure you do you. I'll play it NOW thank you.
f6fbc7 No.15138890
>>15138541
I'll take JAST flavor over Xseed flavor. Ever wondered why TitS has so many neoFAG fans?
ac7d7f No.15138919
Is it just me or is Estelle's skirt way longer in concept art than in-game? It looks better in the art tbh. Does Erebonia have a law against skirts longer than 2 inches? At this rate in Calvard they're just going to be wearing belts. :^)
bcb45b No.15138946
>>15138919
It doesn't matter since she's gone back to spats. Her unmentionables are now unmentionable again.
ac7d7f No.15138969
>>15138946
Yeah, unlike that whore Fie. :^) I'm just not really a fan of how it looks either way.
9cd8b1 No.15138980
>>15138946
Well she's already caught the bus, so she doesn't have to keep running.
5b6dc3 No.15139256
>>15138643
Just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean it hasn't happened and vigilance has never hurt anybody.
The only reason NISA hasn't been able to claim flavor lately is due to how shitty their baseline work was for Ys VIII that everybody is watching them like a hawk.
If it just had been stupid bullshit like replacing honorifics with
>Mr. X, Ma'am, etc
You'd have just put it down to NISA/localizationisms and accepting anything near that is what allows NISA and similar outfits to continue to produce subpar work.
The goal in anything you do should always be imporvement. The current localization industry is allowed to translate a lot of shit poorly because
>well, that's how it's normally translated so it's ok
Like retards continuing to translate ゆり as "lily".
Sure it's technically the correct translation but it has a meaning and use other than "lily" and future releases can improve how you translate the intent and meaning of ゆり based on context.
>>15138700
I didn't say I disliked the system entirely but I'd rather have new titles rather than just "official releases" of older games such as, for example, Clannad at it's full $50 release price ten years later.
There are better ways to support the devs than buying localizations of fan translations Import, buy their newer games, etc. and I don't think a company that touts itself as a localizer should work almost exclusively with other people's translation work unless they end up working with them longterm.
I'd also prefer more than just the one game in a series be translated before they never release again but I presume that is a profitability issue.
5b6dc3 No.15139259
>>15139256
fuck me, improvement*
c40cfc No.15142719
>>15142710
She grew her hair out again, and she's got sides to her midrift but that cleavage is bigger. Yeah, both Josette and Tita have to long strands on the side in front like she does there. Hmm.
bcb45b No.15143689
>>15142710
Also we got a lot of appearances by minor CS characters.
Please don't die, Alan.
52aaf6 No.15143746
>>15130994
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
5d9468 No.15143879
>>15130331
>ass
>ever good
Ass is for savages and faggots.
05f5de No.15143892
>>15143689
The relationship between Alan and Bridget was one of my favorite side things in CS. I hope everything is fine, man.
6adbb2 No.15144068
>>15130363
because they are fun?
bcb45b No.15144504
>>15143892
He's being sent to the front lines and he's saying "when I come back we'll get married." It would only be worse if he had a picture of her in the cockpit of his soldat.
bcb45b No.15152580
>>15149077
But she's a filthy traitor, anon.
2591d6 No.15152892
>>15149077
A girl in uniform is always good. Even Fran.
21ae73 No.15156768
File: a5005fcd896ce78⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 106.93 KB, 455x841, 455:841, a5005fcd896ce78b8cdd5361f9….jpg)
21ae73 No.15156785
>>15156768
For some reason the only tab that checks the spoiler box for me it this thread, even though I have posted images without spoiler checked.
Anyway, it's the most villainous of villains responsible for poisoning the minds of women all over the Zemurian continent.
f65aba No.15158733
So Ao no kiseki keeps on crashing won a certain part of dialogue when Arios lets me ask questions. Anyone have any Idea on how to get around this?
f65aba No.15158827
>>15158733
Please help, I want to actually be able to finish the game.
fc03ec No.15158897
>>15158733
just a wild guess. But try switching to Japanese locale
bcb45b No.15158904
f65aba No.15158919
>>15158904
Thanks, that worked.
21ae73 No.15162595
>>15162550
Who would win in a fishing duel?
2591d6 No.15162615
>>15162595
I feel like Estelle is a way bigger fishing buff.
b4c230 No.15162668
>>15142710
She did catch that giant one in lake valleria plus she beat 3 members of the fishing guild in duels in 3rd.
b4c230 No.15162669
3a62f7 No.15162714
>>15162595
Estelle but I don't think Rean would be far behind. Mostly because I think Estelle has been into fishing more and for a longer time than the others
3a62f7 No.15165414
>>15165366
>master1200
you downloaded the sample
bcb45b No.15167366
Could this be a bonding event?
21ae73 No.15167381
>>15167366
Is she getting bullied by sheep now?
f3e8a5 No.15168007
>>15167991
Some girls have their priorities straight.
d84cd6 No.15168454
>>15168431
Are those eyes shooped? They're freaking me out.
bcb45b No.15168598
>>15168454
No. The cosplayer was fucking weird looking. And Kondo's face is full of regret. That's the joke.
2591d6 No.15168611
>>15168598
>>15168454
She probably did her makeup in such a way to make her eyes look huge. I'm not too bothered by it other than the fact she's cosplaying as worst girl.
ac7d7f No.15168701
Cosplayers are the worst.
ff2ba7 No.15168736
Cosplay is a shitty attempt at transferring my cute, perfect 2D girls into disgusting 3D masses.
All cosplayers should die.
122ef6 No.15169172
>>15168431
I suppose this is his punishment for going with NISA for Ys VIII.
bcb45b No.15169351
>>15169172
Well that was from the CS1 launch so…
>>15165414
Found the real source. Plus some extra.
bcb45b No.15170913
So does this steel case confirm Crow is the main heroine of CS?
295beb No.15171019
>>15170913
No. Rean is the Damsel in Distress, and the main hero Crow has to save him.
21ae73 No.15171128
>>15170913
On the left, everyone is alive.
On the right, one is dead.
Is bad things going to happen?
ac7d7f No.15171142
>>15171128
really makes you think
295beb No.15171217
>>15171128
Ellie should have kept her defensive plating.
2591d6 No.15171359
>>15171128
>Estelle dying
You stop that line of thought right now, young man.
05f5de No.15171510
>>15170913
Going to assume they did that because those are the perspectives you’re going to have while playing. One for Rean, one for Crow, one for Estelle/Joshua and one for Lloyd/Ellie. But boy I’m not a fan of the box art they’re going with for CS4 already. If they’re doing that with the steelbook then it’s just going to look bad.
eb0926 No.15172528
>>15168736
Meh if a cute 11 year old girl wants to cosplay as KeA or dare I say it Renne by all means. Cosplay away.
bcb45b No.15172600
>>15171510
There's way more perspectives than that though, because you also have Kurt, Juna and Altina and Musse and Ashe. Honestly this game is going to shift more povs than any Trails game before it.
Also that's the inside of the case. The outside is pic related. Also the regular box too.
ac7d7f No.15173023
>>15170913
On the left, everyone has boots.
On the right, one has boots.
Is boot things going to happen?
>>15172600
>best crossbell characters on back
nice
ff2ba7 No.15173605
>>15172528
>if a cute 11 year old girl
I wouldn't have any problem in this case either. The issue is that there are no cute 3D girls because it's impossible for 3D to be cute.
a9ee66 No.15173625
>>15172528
>cosplay as Renne
You sick fuck.
3ae158 No.15173660
I think Falcom has just given up on the west and that is why there still isn't a Cold Steel 3 announcement. I think they got into some kind of dispute with xseed and don't want to deal with them. So they went to NISA since they are pretty much the only other option for a game this size. NiSA was NSA so now they just don't know what the fuck to do. This whole theory is pretty much based on them refusing to give xseed japanese VO for any game. Then they gave it to NiSA for their first one.
5b6dc3 No.15173673
>>15173660
Pretty sure JP VO are negotiated for separately by the localizer. The fact that XSEED wasn't able to and NISA was just says that NISA has a lot more money to burn or will take worse deals.
There also hasn't been an announcement for Cold Steel 3 in China and that is a huge market for Falcom. Do you also think they abandoned China?
2591d6 No.15173684
>>15173660
>them refusing to give Japanese VO
When it comes to Japanese VA, it's up to the localizer.
XSeed turns down JP VA because it's expensive. NISA can shell out the money for it. Some anon made a post here a while back lining out how VAs are handled in Japan and how localizers have to jump through legal and monetary hoops to get them. Especially if the game they're localizing does not belong to their parent company.
bcb45b No.15173756
>>15173660
>He thinks Falcom owns the vo audio
>This is what "no dual audio no buy!" fags actually believe
Falcom does not own the voice over. Seiyuu in Japan have ridiculously lucrative contracts (honestly the kind of shit Burch and co were angling for) to the point where I think seiyuu can be a bit too pampered. Of course, that's all tied up in anime too, so you can't make the video game point of "the VA is a small part of the experience."
It also happens that Cold Steel has a fucking all-star cast in Japan of extremely well known and expensive seiyuu. This is part of the reason why the voice over is so inconsistent, because Falcom aren't exactly drowning in cash themselves. Easier to just have Rean be mute half the time. So it would cost a huge chunk of money to licence that audio (because seiyuu get paid essentially again when it happens), while the non-union English VA get paid peanuts and will record more lines.
NISA has more money, so they can burn it on licencing audio. Also keep in mind Ys 8 has way less audio than Trails.
3ae158 No.15173779
>>15173673
>>15173684
>>15173756
Aren't Xseed owned by Marvelous which is owned by Kadokawa? Were as NiSA is owned by NiSJ which I've heard are in really rough shape? I don't blame Xseed for not getting the Japanese VO they do in everything else why would they not for Falcom's stuff. However that also made me think oh Falcom must be ones stopping them since they shell out for the VO for everything else. I know Seiyuu get a cut and have a say however I thought the dev also had a say as well.
bcb45b No.15173808
>>15173779
Unlike NISA who have their parent company drip feed them money like a San Francisco trust fund kiddy, Marvelous doesn't give shit to XSeed. It's possible that because XSeed is technically owned by Marvelous things like the Senran VO might be included in deals. They have no such relationship with Falcom, though, and Falcom is way too poor to justify essentially paying for the VO again for porting purposes.
5b6dc3 No.15173810
>>15173756
>Seiyuu in Japan have ridiculously lucrative contracts (honestly the kind of shit Burch and co were angling for) to the point where I think seiyuu can be a bit too pampered.
This would not be an issue if they were actually good at being English VAs or had more than two characters.
And, while I am aware it is part of the "culture" in English VA that they are stuck doing those same three fucking archetypes I also feel like they could have at least tried something new every once in a while and taken vocal lessons.
>>15173779
Xseed is called "Marvelous USA, Inc" on paper, so yes they are owned by Marvelous.
However as far as I know Marvelous is not owned by Kadokawa, they were formed by a merger between Marvelous Entertainment and AQ Interactive and I don't think they are a subsidiary of anybody else.
Allegedly, other than the titles Marvelous gives them to localize the other titles they localize are done as any other US company would, that is, they have to make a contract with the dev/publishers who made the title in the first place.
It changes after that because most devs/publishers in JP do not have localization clauses in the contracts so those have to be done separately. That is where the costs get high and I've heard some VA outright refuse to be in releases overseas.
2591d6 No.15173825
>>15173779
XSeed acts independently of Marvelous unless Marvelous wants them to localize their games.
Therefore all risk is taken on by XSeed themselves when they act independently.
3ae158 No.15173859
>>15173808
>>15173810
>>15173825
I wonder game contracts with Seiyuu are going to change soon when it comes to video games. Barely anything comes out anymore with no Japanese VO. Even Square and Nintendo are doing it now and they have been really big holdovers. You also have the practice increasing of releasing the Japanese VO as a separate, but free, DLC purchase most likely to limit the amount of royalties needing to be dished out only for people who actually use the feature.
bcb45b No.15173921
>>15173859
Probably more and more contracts are including clauses for localization, not to mention companies having western branches (Atlus, Square, Nintendo, etc) probably have easier access to it. It's these niche games where things fall between the cracks.
5b6dc3 No.15173935
>>15173859
>I wonder game contracts with Seiyuu are going to change soon when it comes to video games. Barely anything comes out anymore with no Japanese VO.
Probably only for JP companies with worldwide branches which is becoming more common anyway
US specific/pozzed companies would bitch about it raising the cost of localization and I suspect even if it didn't localizers would claim it did and it would devalue most English VA even more. because frequently localizers are friends with VAs
Those are both things non-branch localizing companies would prefer to avoid because, for the most part, they want to pump and dump for the most profit and least effort. Them having to have dual audio or be seen as even worse trash would be counter-intuitive to that goal.
ac7d7f No.15174240
>>15173660
> them refusing to give xseed japanese VO for any game.
Hatsuu has said that they have the budget for either English dub or Japanese licensing and they feel English fits Falcom games better.
21ae73 No.15174979
>>15173684
I think this is the post you are talking about.
a9ee66 No.15175001
>>15173684
I don't think money is the reason, at least if its possible for Xseed to get it unless they just flat out do not have enough money to pay for it without putting them in horrible debt. Tom said that they'd be willing to pay any sum but they just can't do it with Falcom's VAs because of rights issues. They can do it for a lot of their other games though, which is weird.
bcb45b No.15175072
TV spot for CS4
>Elie and Lloyd vs Mariabell
>Adult form Rosalia
>Playable Duvalie
>Glorious returns
>Cassius and Kloe
19fbac No.15175089
>>15175072
You sure that's him?
05a587 No.15175133
>>15175072
Estelle with Renna, Tita, Tio, and Altina
Since when did Estelle command a loli army ?
295beb No.15175169
>>15175089
They mentioned that Rean would meet another Eight Leaves user. I doubt that Cid classifies, unless if he received training during the events of Crossbell and Erobonia.
21ae73 No.15175279
>>15175169
What about Arios?
bcb45b No.15175438
>>15175279
It said specifically it wouldn't be Anelace or Arios.
a295d2 No.15176004
No wonder Ao no kiseki was never localised. This game is too problematic! Ellie just got raped.
a295d2 No.15176045
>>15173825
Yeah it was Xseed themselves who wanted to do Falcom games. Their Japanese parent company doesn't care.
The dual audio situation is on Xseed and Falcom: Xseed doesn't have money and Falcom doesn't negotiate the contracts to allow for worldwide release.
I think Xseed is in trouble. They are pretty much only doing Marvelous games now. And nobody is in a hurry to pick up Cold Steel.
bcb45b No.15177273
Hey, Rean, how's that smile and optimism coming along?
4236bf No.15179793
I just beat Ys Origin and was wondering, is it necessary to play through it all again as Hugo or Toal? Does playing as either change the canon (that is, if Yunica's story is the canon one) or add super important details?
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a9ee66 No.15179840
>>15179793
What beautiful artwork.
96d888 No.15179842
>>15179793
Very yes. I'd argue Yunica's story was the weakest of the 3. For best results do Hugo next.
3ab851 No.15179881
It's too bad all the waifus in the world and complex overarching story can't make the gameplay actually fun.
4236bf No.15179950
>>15179842
>>15179824
All right then, thanks.
I was sort of hoping I wouldn't need to play through all three, but I suppose it can't be helped.
295beb No.15180182
>>15179881
You dislike turn-based combat, or is it something specific with Trails?
2761ec No.15180415
What the fuck is the appeal of trails in the sky?
I'm guessing it's to do with the story because this gameplay is disgusting.
05f5de No.15180710
>>15179842
I felt as though Hugo’s was the worst. His sudden love for Epona while she dies in his arms just being a too quick, “oh god I’ve fucked up” realization for him especially after just nearly killing Cadena and Miuscha. His story is just him being a shit, then realizing he’s being a shit, but then still being a shit later until his arc closes I felt Yunica’s was the second best and actually had something there. A little girl proving that magic ability isn’t all there is and going through the struggle of realizing that herself.
ac7d7f No.15183513
>tfw beat the abyss worms in Ao without a single s-craft or combi-craft
ac7d7f No.15183517
a9ee66 No.15183934
>>15180415
It is, as is all elements of writing (dialogue, characters, worldbuilding). Music is also great.
Gameplay wasn't anything special to me, it was okayish. I'd give it a 6.3/10, maybe 7.6/10 at best when you get into the autism and orbment configuration and the satisfaction of using a buffed powerhouse and/or S-breaks
08347e No.15185757
Did they fix the Ys VIII translation?
ac7d7f No.15188019
>Tio doesn't join until Day 3 of Chapter 2
Damn it.
07d008 No.15188511
>>15188019
Worth the wait, anon.
d96047 No.15189502
I just finished tokyo xanadu on vita. Anons, who the fuck did localization? I mean it was awful. I know a wee bit of japanese and am still learning but there was so much wrong with it. I thought it was a joke about fuckleducks. And the final boss including the abbreviation "fyi" in its speech. I mean it was horrible. All the more reason to learn japanese to avoid these god awful translations.
Also, what is it with this true ending bullshit. The original was fine. I didnt mind the game overall but the localization and true ending really made me see the game as a bit of a doozy.
5b6dc3 No.15189531
>>15189502
> Anons, who the fuck did localization? I mean it was awful
Aksys.
They're known for having extremely uneven translation quality, they also localized Muramasa Rebirth but somehow didn't fuck that up.
I thought for a while they had said they were redoing and fixing the shitty areas of the translation but I think that changed from "both versions" to "only eX+" then into "it's good enough for us" but was still shit.
ac7d7f No.15189637
Does a steel wrist prevent Lloyd from fainting at the end of Burning Heart?
d8ba56 No.15189787
>>15188019
Tio's VA is great. I shudder to think how Xseed would cast it.
21ae73 No.15189970
>>15189637
Just give him a bunch of automatic CP regeneration items so he never runs out of CP.
950f09 No.15190030
>>15125694
I'm playing TiTS sc now, when you say beyond the average gamer do you mean combat wise, or you need to pay attention in order to wrap quests up and stuff?
I accidentally kinda spoiled myself a little bit on the Crossbell games seeing that Estelle and Joshua are in them, but how different are they really?
These first two have really impressed me I gotta say and curious where to go from there. Cold Steel is obvious but if Crossbell is ready to be played and more of a "direct" sequel than Cold Steel and they're translated mostly I'd probably prefer to go there.
bcb45b No.15190122
>>15190030
I think he means there's a lot of plot and characters to keep track of in your head. The plot certainly gets more complicated the longer it goes, which makes sense due to the way Trails works. The longer it goes on, the more complicated the world gets and the more things you need to keep track of and remember. It's definitely a series that rewards autism.
You can do Zero and Ao after Sky 3rd, but just know those are fan translations and those translations are rough. You are not going to get the polished dialogue of Sky or Cold Steel. You're going to get awkward phrasing, sometimes with typos and other such errors. It's not the worst fan translation I've seen by a long shot, but it's far from the best either. It will get the point across, but you have to take it for granted that the writing will not feel the same.
21ae73 No.15190130
>>15190030
Play the Crossbell games first. I wish I did that.
Gameplay wise, they play pretty much like TiTS.
950f09 No.15190166
>>15190122
>>15190130
thanks bros. should take me a while still to finish SC and the 3rd. Is there something wrong with Cold Steel?
As for the crossbell translation, it's still being worked on right? hopefully it'll be a bit better before I actually get around to it.
21ae73 No.15190185
>>15190166
>Is there something wrong with Cold Steel?
Not really, it's just that Cold Steel 1 and 2 spoils a few major events in Ao. Personally I didn't really like the high school setting in Cold Steel, but it isn't a deal breaker.
The translations for both Zero and Ao are both serviceable. By the time you are done with Third they are probably finished with the editing for Zero, hopefully.
295beb No.15190232
>>15189787
Don't worry. They would go bankrupt trying to localize Zero and Ao with voice acting.
bcb45b No.15191196
>>15190166
>Is there something wrong with Cold Steel?
Not at all. Crossbell was just made first and was intended to be played first. The two stories (well the first two CS games anyway) more or less take place at the same time as the Crossbell games, which is why a lot of people say it doesn't matter which you play first. Both spoil certain broad elements of the other when you play them first, though I'd say parts of the ending of CS2 land more effectively if you play Crossbell before CS.
bcb45b No.15191212
>>15190232
Anon, she's in Cold Steel 3 and 4. Games that XSeed certainly could localize and they will give her an English voice.
5a75d5 No.15191234
>>15190030
Does Kloe come back in any of those games?
bcb45b No.15191269
>>15191234
She is in Ao no Kiseki (second Crossbell game) and will be in CS4.
05f5de No.15191761
>>15191411
Instead of coming in here with offtopic complaining, explain why you are dropping these addresses and guidelines. The thread you're pointing to says nothing and is just complaining. Your guidelines explain nothing and just tell us to tell them we feel disappointed. What is this about? What spawned a new wave of bitching?
ac7d7f No.15191796
>>15191761
The GOG twitter posted a couple dumb tweets.
980a64 No.15191852
>>15191761
>not keeping up with current events
Live under a rock or something? OAG made 3 articles about it.
TL;DR of it is that GoG made an advertising tweet for Postal 2's release that was getting popular but it was Pro-GG/anti-journo in message (the gif of the MC pissing on gaming Journalism's gravestone)
They delete it after journos start mobilizing (VG247 especially) and complaining and a day later apologize and say they "didn't mean to condone a movement of hate" and "abusers" and whatnot, basically taking sides on the issue.
a6f750 No.15192011
>>15191761
It's off topic, I already deleted it.
ac7d7f No.15192169
>>15192117
Jusis has shit taste.
980a64 No.15192514
>>15192011
Cake like didn't it hurt your conscience at all when you bought Ys VIII on (((Steam))) for 60 fucking dollaridoos while your board was boycotting it and emailing Falcom directly, spreading the word and everything?
Did it hurt even more when you played it for 4 hours, didn't refund, and didn't even bother to leave a bad review?
You unprincipled nigger, kys
b75f47 No.15192632
>>15176045
Nobody will be in a hurry to do CSIII. The game is a high effort low reward. That is the reason why I think NISA won´t pick it up, to make it work they would have to rush the translation and even then they would have to expect good sales by promoting the game. On top of that people interested in the series will be told by fans on the internet to either start with Sky or CS1 discouraging new players.
6f1273 No.15192843
>>15192169
I warmed up to her a lot in CS3.
bcb45b No.15194794
Protect me from her smile.
f6e7ce No.15198791
f2f0be No.15198873
05f5de No.15201274
>new Dengeki out this week
>It’s 666
>Featuring Sen IV
Oh fuck.
6c717b No.15201330
Obligatory "where do I start?" post now that my immediate backlog is close to empty.
Also, is it viable to make a waifu-only party in the game? are there even parties or am I mistaking it for some other series?
295beb No.15201384
>>15201330
Depends if you want to play an action RPG (Ys) or a turn-based RPG (Trails). I do not know much about Ys, however, for Trails start with Trails in the Sky. It has three games, called First Chapter, Second Chapter, and The 3rd. The graphics are dated, but the character writing and world-building make up for it. If the graphics are totally unacceptable, you could try Trails of Cold Steel. It works decently enough on its own, while not recommended to do it in this order. The game is a little campy and requires one to be able to handle anime tropes.
21ae73 No.15201577
>>15201330
If you are talking about Trails, then play release order.
>is it viable to make a waifu-only party in the game
Yes, but the Crossbell games and Coldsteel has a male main character you play as but you can fill the party with girls if you want.
77a7ad No.15201626
>>15201330
any time you have four female party members, you can run with a female-only party, although you're going to be doing a good portion of the game with only one or two female party members. I know that starting with the third Old Schoolhouse you can actually select three female characters, although you do have to use Rean still.
a9ee66 No.15201735
>>15201577
>release order
Iseruhasa and Gagharv when?
ac7d7f No.15201830
>>15201735
You mean good Gagharv. The shitty PSP ports are already out.
bcb45b No.15202221
>>15201330
>Obligatory "where do I start?" post now that my immediate backlog is close to empty.
If you mean Trails, then release order is ideal: Sky FC -> Sky SC -> Sky 3rd -> Zero no Kiseki (fan translation) -> Ao no Kiseki (fan translation) -> Cold Steel 1 -> Cold Steel 2 -> Pray for a decent localization of CS3 and 4.
>Also, is it viable to make a waifu-only party in the game? are there even parties or am I mistaking it for some other series?
Depends on the game. In FC it will always be Estelle and Joshua and two fixed others depending on the story. In SC you get to pick party members so you can make it happen. In 3rd there are a few specific instances where you can. In Zero you almost always just have the four core members of the SSS, which is two guys and two girls. In Ao….it might be possible? Not for most of the game, though. In CS1 usually you have a fixed party, though there's a few times you get to pick outright. In CS2 the harem party is actually ideal because the girls are busted to shit. Evasion tank Fie, goddess of damage Laura, supreme nuker Emma along with the Rean Bean Delay Machine is the ideal party, with fantastic all-arounder Sara as backup.
56d84b No.15202259
>>15201330
In the start of Trails 2, you can get an all female team that goes to a hot springs to relax. The girls talk about stuff and they ask Schera about Oliver but she says she's not telling. The event can change depending if you bring Schera/Agate and Kloe/Oliver. Tita joins in regardless I think.
Such a party is arts heavy though.
fb4f9c No.15205158
Cold Steel series put me off Kiseki completely. I have zero faith in Falcom to produce anything that isn't cheap weaboo garbage anymore; fanservice in the form of anime tits and parading old characters in front of me isn't going to change that.
05f5de No.15205379
>>15205158
Cold Steel is just like the other games.
295beb No.15209034
>>15205158
Just because the perspective changed doesn't mean that the writing changed. The only difference is that in Cold Steel there is a high school setting, and that means that the "anime feeling" of Cold Steel is higher than the other games. Just admit that you hate any form of Japanese media. Prior Trails games managed to hide the fact that their writing is Japanese and "anime" to the core because it was hidden behind localization.
6009fb No.15209118
Taking out the /pol terrorists in Ao is fun. Muh traditional Calvardian traditions!
4d4491 No.15212629
>>15209118
>>>/leftpol/ is that way snowflake
bcb45b No.15213427
>>15212629
>>15209118
The funny thing is that Ao actually comes off as extremely rredpilled because the (((Crois))) family are the true villains, a group of ancient evil alchemists who gained power by abusing banking and funded secret pedophilic demon cults.
a9ee66 No.15218260
>>15218255
>Cassius
overpowered little shit
Let's see what I get
a9ee66 No.15218267
>>15218260
guess I'll find out when I play kuld steal
21ae73 No.15218554
>>15218255
Lets hope for girls.
873b92 No.15218713
Trails series on the pc (gog version) or on vita via psp? I like being able to lay in my bed and read comfy jrpgs but i am willing to sit at a computer if i must. What say you anons?
bcb45b No.15218732
>>15218713
Do you speak moon, anon? If so you can do PSP emulation for Sky and Crossbell and then Vita for CS. You'll have to switch to PS4 once you hit CS3, though. If you don't speak moon, PC is your only option. Also, don't play the evo versions. Sky Evo is a fucking mess with shit balance.
05f5de No.15218820
Looks like Endless History is on indefinite hiatus. The other sites, like Geofront, will keep going though.
674477 No.15218930
>>15218255
Gimme someone good.
ac7d7f No.15218992
ac7d7f No.15218995
Hmm. Do you think Thomas would be mad if I took his nun's virginity?
091002 No.15219335
873b92 No.15219351
>>15218732
My bad anon im fucking retarded. Trails in the sky series on psp or pc. Which should i do?
95b4c7 No.15219352
Holy fuck I'm actually able to enjoy Celceta now thanks to the non-shit frame rate and control options.
a9ee66 No.15219358
>>15219351
I'd recommend PC because I can't see how I'd have lived without turbo mode
091002 No.15219374
I loved TiTS FC and SC on my vita since it was comfy as fuck to lay in bed and play before going to sleep
Is TiTS 3rd absolutely necessary? I had gotten like halfway until my pc shat itself, and I really don't want to have to replay 50 hours or whatever before I can reach where I was. I was lucky enough to find a cheatengine script for exp boost but it makes the game feel pretty damn unstable. I also personally found it boring as shit that it was a dungeon crawler instead of a full jrpg like the last games.
Can I skip 3rd or is it necessary to understand what comes after?
ac7d7f No.15219391
>>15219351
The third Sky game is not available on PSP in English, but the carryover bonuses aren't really necessary anyway, so you could just switch to PC at that point.
a9ee66 No.15219399
>>15219374
I really think 3rd is worth playing
f98e2c No.15219441
21ae73 No.15219690
>>15219374
You get a lot of extra backstory from the optional doors, and some of those will be either referenced or an important part of a character arc in a later game.
Also the later parts of the Third is pure hype. Play it faggot.
bcb45b No.15220191
>>15218995
He might use his OP stigma on you.
ea7eae No.15223657
Ys games, 1 & 2, Origin, Oath, 7, 8 etc are on sale at GoG. Trails is too.
Picked up Trails 1 and Ys 1 & 2, origin + Oath.
21ae73 No.15224533
What a playful little scamp.
bcb45b No.15224577
21ae73 No.15224654
>>15224577
You knew he was going to disappear quickly when his most defining features were a flute (that he lost almost immediately) and glasses.
a9ee66 No.15224663
>>15223657
>8
don't buy this please
5a75d5 No.15224688
>>15218255
Who I fug?
Give me something good.
ac7d7f No.15224700
323033 No.15224704
>>15209034
>Just admit that you hate any form of Japanese media.
That's some peak projection. Don't like trails you're a fucking racist who hate all Japanese media. I knew kisekifags had a reputation but holy shit.
dc69b4 No.15224713
>>15224704
Yea, those Kisekifags will just lash out the moment you criticize their game even a little bit. I wish the cake kike would do something about them.
360dd1 No.15224717
>>15224704
>>15224713
I'm feeling you bros. Kisekifags make it impossible to have any actual proper discussion on Falcom games. These generals are doomed.
b20b58 No.15224722
Where can I find an ISO for Dinosaur Resurrection? I really regret not buying a physical copy when I was in japan a few years back
>>15223657
remember to never pay for 8, the translation is still fucked and the port is still fucked. And NISA is already getting ready to kill support for it meaning it will never get fixed
05f5de No.15224751
>>15224713
>>15224704
>>15224717
Hopping IP's to agree with yourself? How sad. You got shit on because you were being retarded. Fix it.
639f88 No.15224832
Localiser admitting they intentionally change lines when a game doesn't have JP audio there to keep them in check.
a9ee66 No.15224874
>>15224832
I'm very confused by what this image is trying to say
639f88 No.15224893
>>15224874
Localiser of the Kiseki series admitting she changes dialogue when a game doesn't have JP audio tracks in the western release to keep her in check. In this case she is talking about her current project and how she has been forced to keep certain lines because its super obvious when the JP audio is different from the text on the screen.
a9ee66 No.15224904
>>15224893
>changes dialogue
the only thing I'm seeing here mentioned is the "[name]" part which still doesn't make much sense to me
It'd be a lot easier to understand with an actual example or something
ac7d7f No.15224910
>>15224893
Nah dude she's """"interpreting intent"""".
639f88 No.15224945
>>15224904
play any of the Sora or Sen games with JP audio and just listen to whats being said vs what the english text on screen is. Iv just recently finished playing Sora FC with JP voices and the differences are numerous.
bcb45b No.15224959
>>15224904
>>15224874
The guy is referring to instances in Trails when a character would just say "Rean…" in original Japanese but in the localizing they'd give them a line.
Honestly it's one of those things that sucks because in Japan saying someone's name like that probably means more than it does here. Case in point: remember at the beginning of CS2 when Rean is reminiscing about all his classmates and it plays a line each of them had said in CS1? In the original Japanese it's just each character saying "Rean…" over and over again. Perhaps to a Japanese person this is meaningful and emotion. To westerners it just sounds fucking weird because that's not something we do when talking. So they changed it to be significant lines each character had said.
This pretty much falls into Tom's localization policy word for word: where the first thing they want preserved is emotional feeling rather than outright accuracy. A basic example of this would be changing a joke so that it's actually funny to English speakers as opposed to incomprehensible.
The most egregious example of this people love to post over and over is the one on the Courageous with Gaius where his "Rean…" transforms into two whole sentences. In my opinion, it should have been changed to a one sentence platitude instead, but sometimes Hatsuu goes overboard.
ea7eae No.15225062
>>15224663
>>15224722
I won't get the new Ys games, I played Origin demo years ago and only wanted that kind of isometric 2d/top down action.
I started Ys 1 today and wow was that comfy. Two hours in I did a dungeon rush and got the Silver armor plate and shield and all the rings. Got the first 2 Ys books. Didn't expect progression this fast, level 8.
295beb No.15226838
>>15224959
Must suck to translate those lines. Becuase saying someone's name in those situations is a simple sympathetic gesture, which is extremely difficult to translate into an actual line which is consistent enough to feel natural for western audiences.
a596ca No.15229183
>TitS SC Chapter 7
>wreck the living shit out of the boss, have him groveling at my feet
>cutscene starts
>BOSS: Hmm… not bad… *teleports away*
>this happens four times in a row
DFDGGKFKIHLGGSRDSSADRGGSR
bcb45b No.15229224
>>15229183
Oh get used to that. Holding back in Trails is a meme at this point.
3174ce No.15229234
Were can I buy a KeA?
>to feel natural for western audiences
Found the problem. Weeb up or GTFO. Aidios knows that this series doesn't suit normal well adjusted people anyway (play 5 70 hour JRPGs to know what's going on)
bcb45b No.15229348
>>15229234
Pardon me for wanting dialogue not to sound weird as shit, anon. There's a difference between "weeb" and "doesn't translate to English."
091002 No.15229432
Alright, decided to bite the bullet and replay my way through 3rd until I get to where I left off. Its going to be a bit of a drag to go through like 40 hours of stuff, but I was able to enable a cheatengine script that gave me a 5000 exp modifier so I can breeze through everything. The only real "oof" moment was Tifa's flashback, I had forgotten how long it was, even with the turbo button held down and skipping through the dialog I was still in it for a good like 10 minues.
Also, once I'm done with 3rd, where should I go next? I see that the translation for Ao is out, but isn't it the sequel to Zero? Won't I not know what's going on without Zero having a translation? I know I can hop over to Coldsteel, but I remember someone telling me it spoiled things in the Ao/Zero games. I have CS1 on vita so I'm not sure if I should go there or Ao
21ae73 No.15229488
>>15229432
Zero is fully translated. What some are waiting for is the edited version that makes the text correct english, spelling errors and other things.
I would say to play Zero/Ao first.
>it spoiled things in the Ao/Zero games
Zero and Ao (in particular) spoils some events that will happen in CS 1/2 so it's not the end of the world if you play CS first or not. But I feel like CS "spoils" a bit more than what Zero and Ao does.
bcb45b No.15229499
>>15229432
Don't forget that Ttita's door is two parts. You can see part 2 after you get Agate and it is worth it since she gets a huge buff out of it.
38f443 No.15229587
I'm a newfag with these franchises what franchise and what 1st game should I buy first?
fbb13f No.15229625
>>15229587
Trails in the sky, FC and SC are directly connected in terms of story, think of it as one huge interconnected story across 2 games, like the LotR trilogy
For Ys start with chronicles. A lot of people consider it dated but its necessary to understand the later games; a lot of people love Oath in Felghana and Origin among other games
Save Trails of Cold Steel and Ao/Zero till after TitS
TitS graphics are shit but the story is mind bogglingly good
They have other franchises where you could start in numerous places, as well as one-offs. Stuff like Zwei, Xanadu Next, Gurumin, etc
Trails and Ys are their flagship franchises though
091002 No.15230711
>>15229499
is there a way to know when a door won't have any more stories? Do they get a mark of some kind?
Also, is there anywhere that tells me how many battles I've fought for the 100 battles star door, or should I just go and grind some out and come back to see if its open?
a9ee66 No.15230784
>>15230711
I think your journal should tell you
Anyways keep moving on in the story and come back later, you'll reach it naturally at some point I'd imagine
>is there a way to know when a door won't have any more stories?
I'll give you a very mild spoiler on that
I believe Tita's door is the only one with 2 parts or so
b49086 No.15231020
>>15230711
Only Tita's has a part 2, unless you count the harder difficulties of the minigames.
2591d6 No.15232996
965a6a No.15233107
>>15224722
>Where can I find an ISO for Dinosaur Resurrection?
legendsworld.net/adventure/game/6814
There are a bunch of other falcom games here too if you need them
091002 No.15234045
>kloe moon door
oh boy, can't wait for an hour of empty bullshit and the want to kill myself to start
bcb45b No.15234079
>>15234045
Kloe's door is the biggest slog in the game, to be sure. At least Lechter is fun.
1c687d No.15234081
>>15234045
I liked Kloe's doors
091002 No.15234103
>>15234079
>>15234081
she's straight up worst girl, even Julia is slightly more interesting, and Julia might as well not exist, personality of a soggy cracker
bcb45b No.15234114
>>15234103
I don't hate Kloe. There are times when I think she's a little on the dry side, but overall I enjoy her.
091002 No.15234417
It won't end lads, Lechter makes it bearable but it just won't end
3ec74f No.15234466
>Played Ys 3 and origins (skipped the first 2 because the combat was retarded)
Holy shit this is pretty good
>4 comes out on PC and it's all 3D
Well, it's gonna be different but I'll bet it will still be good
>Can't Jump, Party system where AI keeps getting owned by Nightmare Mobs, Skill grinding, Party Management
Well, it's still alri
>You can save anywhere
Well there goes the fucking challenge and fun
I think 6 is safe because it's in the same origins formula, but is VII and VIII also like this?
What about the SNES release of 5, the one with an english translation?
ac7d7f No.15236963
>terrorists in Ao just want to stop the flow of immigrants into their country
Do I really have to stop them? :^)
21ae73 No.15236977
>>15236963
Unless you want a half 9/11 to happen.
6b07b5 No.15238062
>>15234466
>What about the SNES release of 5, the one with an english translation?
You could just trade damage with bosses and win because of the retarded number of potions you could carry. You should probably set some rules on this for yourself or something. Also it was the first one to have jumping if I remember right, and you're alone so no retarded AI. 5's environments were interesting, but it changed a lot from 4 and I think they needed some more time to figure it all out.
I've been trying to get through Origins, but I've had a rocky start. I chose Hugo on nightmare to start with, and his controls feel a bit clunky. His basic attack makes it so you can't jump, and that is basically suicide against many of the bosses. His special attack where he throws a lightning bolt is really situational: it's got a weird input, it has a long stationary animation, it has a really short range, its dps is about 1/4 of his basic attack, and the input makes it both hard to aim and delayed. 99% of the time I use it on accident. I find I mostly use the thunder mines. They've got good damage, and they work as really good area denial tools to anyone susceptible to knockback. It really bugs me that you can't detonate a fully charged mine without having the mp to place another one though, and I wish that they were placed closer to the ground to give them a larger effective radius. I've been suffering from a lot of crashes too. I'm stuck at the final boss because every time I kill him the game crashes (it's happened 3 times now). I'm not quite sure how to proceed.
a596ca No.15238081
>>15238062
>I'm not quite sure how to proceed.
Shit's bugged, Origin tends to crash at complete random for no real reason when reaching the final boss or true final boss. Some PCs won't have this issue, but it's never really been fixed.
Supposedly this solution works, but I have not tried it out for myself
5b6dc3 No.15238122
>>15238062
>You could just trade damage with bosses and win because of the retarded number of potions you could carry. You should probably set some rules on this for yourself or something.
I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong, because I frequently see this brought up in discussions of how "easy" a game is, but this is one of the more retarded gripes I see people use when they say a game is too easy.
If the game is too easy because you can item spam there are two simple solutions
<play the game correctly and don't spam items like a faggot
<play RPGs where they limit everything for you because you're incapable of regulating item use yourself.
The people bitching about the number of items they can carry making a game too easy are probably the same people who ate too many sweets on Halloween and got sick because they couldn't self moderate.
a9ee66 No.15238150
>>15238122
>don't spam items
Nigger if they give you the option to (assuming one didn't grind or some shit), using a ton of items should be expected
Self-handicapping shouldn't be considered for a game's difficulty because you're forcing yourself to play by rules the game didn't impose or even suggest (like a ranking or scoring system would)
>self-regulating item use
Is there any real incentive to? Asking because I haven't played Ys yet, but from what it sounds like, you gain items in excess anyways so it seems like there's no point to doing so and if anything heavy item use is encouraged
17dc07 No.15238195
>>15218255
Lotta dudes on there…
3152e7 No.15238200
>>15234466
>skipped the first 2 because the combat was retarded
the felghana/origins/ys6 engine is the best but goddamn anon you're a faggot
5b6dc3 No.15238215
>>15238150
>Nigger if they give you the option to (assuming one didn't grind or some shit), using a ton of items should be expected
Are you implying they balanced the game around being able to use nearly limitless amounts items? Because that is even worse game "design" than easy mode for casuals.
>Self-handicapping shouldn't be considered for a game's difficulty because you're forcing yourself to play by rules the game didn't impose or even suggest
I'm pretty sure most games, at their "normal" difficulty, are balanced around only using the abilities of your available character(s) barring obvious things like resurrection before you get a healer and your skill as a player.
I'm sure proper item use is included to an extent in skill but do you actually think a dev sat there and designed a fight thinking shit like
<The player should need to use no fewer than twenty potions and end the fight at full hp under normal conditions
If you're using anywhere near a potential item limit per major fight there are only a few valid reasons that would possibly be needed and none of them are good reasons to believe item spam is a valid strategy.
>Is there any real incentive to? Asking because I haven't played Ys yet, but from what it sounds like, you gain items in excess anyways so it seems like there's no point to doing so and if anything heavy item use is encouraged
There isn't much incentive to not do anything in an unintended fashion in any game other than the knowledge that you aren't using the mass availability of items as a crutch for not learning to play the game properly.
That said giving you the option of using a ton of items isn't really encouraging anything so much as makes it possible.
You could just as easily rationalize overgrinding in RPGs the same way, after all, most of them don't railroad you on how to play, restrict your exp, money, or items, and they don't give you a recommended level for fighting a boss.
d6edd7 No.15238216
>>15234466
>"the bump system is retarded"
>Playing in number order
Get back to cuckchan you fag
853ebb No.15239316
Is hard mode in Trails in the Sky FC broken? I have never played a game that is this enjoyable except for the gameplay. Did no one test the balance at all? Why do enemies go from super easy to super hard back to super easy? Why does Tita keep leaving my party with my Haze orbment which for some reason is required to progress after chapter 3? Am I playing the game wrong?
a596ca No.15239421
>>15239316
>playing any turn-based JRPG on anything but normal
>ever
All the higher difficulties do in TitS is slap a stat multiplier on all enemies so they have more HP, higher defenses, higher speed, etc. It turns all enemies into damagesponges (particularly bosses), but it doesn't fix the lacklustre encounter design to have you change your tactics beyond spam debuffs and buffs->spam aoe nukes until all adds are dead->spam single target arts on the boss and only use s-crafts on criticals
a596ca No.15239434
>>15239316
>why does tita keep leaving my party
Get used to that, a lot of members will do that without warning and without refunding you your orbments (only those who stay away for a longer will return their orbments to your inventory). If you want to keep some orbments safely, stick 'em in Estelle or Joshua.
853ebb No.15239497
>>15239421
>playing any turn-based JRPG on anything but normal
I know. I even searched for how bad the difficulties are and people on steamforums said that hard is still fairly easy which is true except for certain parts that have pissed me off more than any game in a long time. I'm stoked for SC on normal, wew.
bcb45b No.15239509
>>15239497
SC on hard or nightmare would probably stonewall you at the end of the prologue boss. You're never out of his range.
a9ee66 No.15239519
>>15239497
>hard is still fairly easy
Maybe if the fags grinded, that shit was annoyingly difficult for me
Some areas were tolerable but that usually happened when you started becoming too strong for an area and were on your way out anyways
I tend to complete games at lower levels than most people though, in TitS I sort of tried to rush through the gameplay because the combat was usually not too fun for me
That's also unusual, what percentage of Steamfags even completed it on hard? Cheevos for GoG told me it was something like 8-10% or something
feeaba No.15239529
>>15238216
>>15238200
Bump system is garbage. But I'm interesed in hearing why you guys would say otherwise.
Also, in what order do I play, then?
How isn't "release" order the right order? Did they purposefully made the games in a shitty order so that people could only properly play it after they're all released or something?
6b07b5 No.15239968
>>15239529
The first two were actually pretty short (1 in particular) so you may as well play through them even if you're hesitant about the combat.
feeaba No.15240032
>>15239968
Stoner friend that was around when I tried and dropped it, he could stomach the shitty combat so he just picked it up and played them both in my PC. I kinda watched it all, that last boss that destroyed floor tiles was fucking insane.
He was the one that actually went on to play the other games in the series in his own place and then told me they had actual combat that was actually pretty fucking good and I should play them. That's why I picked it up from 3.
295beb No.15241053
>>15239497
Unless if you want to take a test of sheer willpower, then play SC on normal and do a self-imposed no exp/orbment grind. If you want to 100% on hard, there will be points where the game feels extremely unfair. Some fights are so bullshit that even after you restructure your entire party and orbment setup to counter that certain enemy, you still need luck to succeed. Luckily the only unfair story battle is at the end of the prologue. All other unbalanced fights are skippable at the cost of Bracer Points.
bcb45b No.15241808
>>15238195
I thought about making it just waifus, but it didn't feel right. In the end the rules ended up being: all party members, all members of Ouroboros revealed so far, every dominion shown on screen and the rest I filled in with characters I liked, or ones I thought would be funny.
fc8122 No.15242488
FRAN WITH UNTIED LONG HAIR KAWAII
I spit out the glas of water I was drinking. Thanks Red Constellation!
c610f7 No.15243032
>>15239519
Just imagine playing Trails without turbo.
091002 No.15243261
Chapter 6 is overstaying its welcome quite a bit, it was fun to talk to Cassius for a bit, but its just nonstop dungeon running and boss fights, I hope I can reach more story bits soon, getting kinda bored
bcb45b No.15243297
>>15243261
>Chapter 6
Uh…as I can recall that chapter is mostly story.
bcb45b No.15243298
>>15243297
Oh waiit, you were talking about 3rd not SC. Yeah, 6 is the longest chapter in the game. You're right before shit gets real. Just hang in there.
ac7d7f No.15244041
>bleublanc steals from an anguis in Ao
Wew.
ac7d7f No.15244211
Man, Bleublanc's riddles are really easy in Ao.
fc03ec No.15244312
091002 No.15244459
Decided I was going to say fuck it to waiting for further editing and just play the janky Zero translation once I'm done with 3rd, but there seems to be three different things I'm finding; a PSP version, a PSVita version of the EVO release, and a PC hack of the PSP version with EVO sprites.
Which one would you anons recommend? I'm thinking just plain psp and load it up on ppsspp but not sure what would be best
ac7d7f No.15244545
>>15244459
>with EVO sprites.
Not a thing. You probably mean voice acting. PC version is the best version of the game, however the Vita version is slightly edited so some parts of the translation are better. https://mega.nz/#F!WVVkERRJ!zP1AZjSJMZgFsNtHDWt5AQ
ac7d7f No.15244557
>>15244459
>>15244545
Oh wait, you mean the HD patch for PSP. That doesn't actually affect the sprites, only environmental textures and menus, so the sprites still look like dogshit.
091002 No.15244658
>>15244545
>>15244557
ah, sorry, didn't mean sprites, the description said some art from evo, not sprites
So PC hack is the best one? Guess I'll go with that one since you gave a mega, thanks man
ac7d7f No.15246960
>implying Olivier remembers anything
21ae73 No.15247331
>>15244459
Get the mega and avoid the EVO version. I don't know if the balance is fucked in Ao/Zero EVO games but the music is worse.