7bdef1 No.15097187
An often overlooked genre and aspect of vidya.
What's your favorite puzzle game?
What are you currently playing?
What puzzles have gotten you absolutely stumped in the past?
I wanted to post some vidya flashes to go along with this thread but I couldn't find any. Feel free to post any if you have them.
acf0e0 No.15097211
I like when games introduce new mechanics bit by bit for each area and encourage you to experiment with new ways of playing the game. I like how when they evolve over the course of the game and at first ways you never thought or thought it might be impossible to use the tools you're given turn into staple elements of play. MW4 just happens to interlock the mechanics of the game as they're taught to you and the puzzles of each dungeon fantastically. It's a great game in this regard and playing is a delight.
0e8028 No.15097225
>>15097187
>What's your favorite puzzle game?
none because despite taking an official mensa test that claims I got 138 IQ I can't fucking solve shit
>What are you currently playing?
lol fuck puzzle games
>What puzzles have gotten you absolutely stumped in the past?
all of them
7bdef1 No.15097267
>>15097225
I'm afraid you're retarded anon
0bfa35 No.15099714
What happened to actually hard puzzles in games?
Whenever I play modern vidya I'm shocked how obvious many of the "puzzles" are.
acf60a No.15099746
>>15099714
Maybe you're just smart?
7a6ecb No.15099799
A related question:
How do you make interesting puzzles?
I love puzzle games and play them all the time, it's what made the gameboy my favorite console ever, there's a ton of obscure ones there if you look hard, but I've never been good at designing my own puzzles.
393c2f No.15099833
>>15097187
The submachine and Cube escape series have really challenging puzzles in my opinion. Even if in the cube games the puzzles are more like: "combine bunny and sunlight to get a fish" bullshit tier and in submachine you have to first tell the difference between items and background; both are still fun to complete.
0e8028 No.15099889
>>15097267
have I been cheated?
da5e14 No.15099921
Most of the time puzzles are a chore for me. I don't understand what reviewers are talking about when they say "it breaks up the pace". That seems like a completely negative thing for me.
I like some dedicated puzzle games, and I like having to think to complete quests in say, CRPGs, but I really dislike puzzles in action games and FPS.
7a6ecb No.15099947
>>15099921
>action games and FPS
Those are shit genres to include puzzles in. There's breaking up the pace, and there's doing a 180. It works well in horror games, and certain puzzles can work in collectathons/platformers, but I'll agree that those genres would not mix well with puzzles at all. It's kinda like including rhythm minigames in a detective murder mystery VN- oh wait.
a240b1 No.15099958
>>15097187
>that fucking bloody piano
I was 15 back then and it took me a whole afternoon to bruteforce it.
5e09db No.15100120
>>15097187
Machinarium is cute and you can beat it in one sitting without much trouble.
I'm playing Syberia and The Talos Principle right now.
>>15099958
That was pretty much the entire game when I played Physicus when I was younger.
000000 No.15100183
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
My all time favourite puzzle is found in FF6. It's the one in Zozo town where everyone there is a compulsive liar. It is an optional puzzle where you must reset a broken clock to the correct time. Doing so will nab you a cool chainsaw and hockey mask for Edgar to equip in battle. So to solve it, you go around town asking every liar what time is it in Zozo right now. They will all lie to you and give you a false time, but the good news is that they will all lie differently to you. They will each tell you different times that are not the true time. Then by process of elimination, you narrow down the true time by crossing off every false times these liars tell you.
It is still the most clever puzzle I seen in all of gaming.
5e09db No.15100252
>>15100183
>everyone lies to you
>expects clock set correctly
The actual correct answer is to lie to them and intentionally set the clock wrong.
>most clever
I would think the moment you explain "everyone lies" and "you need to ask them the time" the answer is immediately obvious but apparently some people out there need a video explaining that to them.
7bdef1 No.15109309
>>15100183
That sounds like a pretty easy puzzle.
000000 No.15109662
The last puzzle game I beat was Jelly no Puzzle. Pretty gud, would recommend. Right now I'm stuck in TIS-100. I'm almost done with the NET directory, but some of the levels are way too hard.
297797 No.15110634
>>15099714
>Woah, dude, that claw thing's got, like, symbols on it!
>Woah, dude, that door's got, like, pictures on it!
>Aw man, but what could it mean, bro?
I like puzzles in video games when they don't break the pace of the game itself, or are optional for bonus rewards. Unfortunately, about 9 times out of 10 what passes for a puzzle in modern games is "Light a torch" or "Put a block over in that block-shaped hole." Typically that's because the puzzle is mandatory, and therefore the developers don't want the literal retards playing it to get stuck. Unless a game is by genre a puzzle game, the puzzles in it are usually lackluster. Not to say it's impossible to have a good game with interesting puzzles - (the original) Ratchet & Clank, some of the Resident Evil and Silent Hill games, and some of the older Zelda games (Majora's Mask especially) come to mind.
604c3b No.15110701
My favorite puzzle is still the one in Myst that unlocks Stoneship. Punching the dates into the planetarium then realizing the constellations shown correspond to the ones in the book I read in the library was such a great feeling. I love that it forced you to do actual research on in-universe information. There were a few other puzzles like that in the game, but that one in particular was just the fucking coolest.
d0449e No.15113829
>>15097569
>tfw I didn't have fucking speakers the first time I played Myst
>got through everything I could do before this thing and had to drop it
2a8395 No.15113842
>>15110634
I thought you were supposed to solve it through trial and error.
fbe466 No.15113848
Best puzzle game: URU with all dlc, it was like getting lost in another world.
Best individual puzzle: le serpent rouge in Gabriel Knight 3, feels like actually finding a lost treasure.
Best puzzle minigame: the block puzzles in SMT Nocturne get brutal by the end.
7a28a5 No.15113868
>>15113848
Uru's expansion, The Path of the Shell was pretty much to the Myst Series as The Plutonia Experiment was to Doom.
That final puzzle where you have to know the D'ni timekeeping scheme and use it in a time sensitive puzzle..
The base Uru game has that one firefly puzzle that can fuck right off though. How the hell am I supposed to know I am allowed to jump once?
7bdef1 No.15126951
>>15097569
The puzzles I hate the most are the ones that require you to have knowledge of a completely different subject, like music.
7bdef1 No.15141709
7bdef1 No.15153416
>>15153397
I never said it was hard anon, I listed it as a puzzle.
I haven't played the SH series in 15 years, I get a lot of the things mixed up between the games
7bdef1 No.15153436
>>15153425
I made a simple mistake anon, I don't know why you're getting so worked up over it, even to the point of bumping the thread off the very bottom of the catalog.
572c78 No.15153563
>>15153425
>>15153444
You sound like a massive, miserable faggot.
Maybe it's you who should kill yourself and not breed - not that you ever could.
c9a1b5 No.15154755
>>15154745
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
0bfa35 No.15154794
>>15110634
What were the puzzles in the OG R&C? I don't remember any.
0bfa35 No.15154797
>>15153397
>>15153425
>>15153444
>>15154745
>>15154774
Jesus fucking Christ, dude. What's up with you?
337ad0 No.15154834
>Hardest Puzzle Game in History
Lolo on the NES
So hard in fact that it sprouted the 'lol' meme, after the desperate reactions of players who got stuck.
afcb06 No.15154984
>>15154834
Lolo is fucking retarded, the whole game is trial and error since all the powerups are hidden and you have limited tries to find those powerups before having to restart the stage constantly.
7bdef1 No.15160061
>>15154834
Making something really cryptic and random does not make a good puzzle game.
4f6947 No.15160065
e7ba6b No.15160307
>>15110634
>wait a minute, that claw
8fbad3 No.15160383
>>15097187
Myst is probably my favorite puzzle game, but Riven may take its place.
I'm working my way through Riven right now, I've been avoiding using guides for the most part, but I did look up the location of the symbol that corresponds to the first part of the code for the stone circle puzzle. Pretty much the hint I needed was "you missed a clue in Gehn's throneroom, double check the camera" I felt a little bit bad about that, but I was able to figure out all the other details outside of that one missing piece.
Least favorite puzzle is probably pic related because I'm smoothbrained as fuck.
e8693a No.15160516
>>15160383
That's based on sounds telling you what bearing you need to head to isn't it. I need to actually replay Must.
8fbad3 No.15161182
Has anyone played Obduction? I've only just now heard about it. I don't know how I didn't hear sooner. Is it worth playing? Is it worth a buy?
6d5ce8 No.15161224
>>15161182
I am curious about it as well, Quern too. I've not seen much discussion about either at all.
a21a4f No.15161228
Is there anyone who can claim they've beaten a Professor Layton game without a guide? I can't get more than a dozen puzzles into one of those games before I hit a hard wall and drop it.
f49069 No.15161230
What about actual puzzle games?
d82cf5 No.15161253
>>15161182
Great concept, brilliant environmental storytelling, really redundant puzzles if you've already played the Myst series. Keep an eye out for CW's upcoming release Firmament as well
f49069 No.15161262
>>15161228
Wait are they seriously that hard? I played through a borrowed copy like 7 years ago and didn't have any problem with it. Most puzzles I used 0-2 hints on, though.
48794e No.15161808
>>15113848
Uru is so good. I had a fucking blast playing through it with my friends. Some of the coolest worlds in the series.
4de3f4 No.15161829
Fuck the Tower of Hanoi and these sliding picture "puzzles". One has the exact same solution every single time, no matter what game you're playing, and the other is just trial and error time wasting bullshit. Fuck every single person that thinks either one of these should ever be in a game.
f9af3e No.15161854
>>15161808
Awesome. I tried playing it with my friends but they didn't like it. I love the game.
b57314 No.15161863
>>15161230
Someone got me a copy of Chips Challenge 2 and the first couple of levels were fucking awful.
dc21fd No.15161895
>>15161829
>sliding puzzles
Fuck that fad that plagued games for too long.
Hell, even some modern games had them, like Dawn of Sorrow.
5f36da No.15161915
>>15161829
The sliding puzzle games are even more obnoxious when the picture you're aiming for is a mess of shapes and you don't know what to strive towards. Can't find the pic but Still Life was awful about this.
>>15110634
I didn't even know you could turn the claw. I thought the walls surrounding the chamber were the hints.
7bdef1 No.15162082
>>15161864
We have to go back to the days of mirroring videos ourselves, anon. HookTube is just a YouTube client now.
555115 No.15162095
>>15161829
>sliding panel puzzles
Not too hard, but the issue is they're such time wasters.
>ITT discussions about Myst and audio
Deaf anon here, what are some good deaf-friendly alternatives?
f9af3e No.15162178
>>15162082
>The player should not be figuring out what to do but how to do it
Myst was or is the top selling puzzle game of all time and that involved a lot of "what am I doing?" puzzles. The entire point of the game was you figuring out rules that govern the world you're in. The man in the webm is WRONG!!
15b30b No.15162188
>>15162178
>The man in the webm is WRONG!!
It's not a webm, anon…
5e1b26 No.15168642
Let's see if any of you fags can beat me at Tetris Friends Battle 2P.
Name's Ignativs.
0a5db6 No.15172828
>>15161829
>all this hate for sliding tile puzzles
pathetic. If you can't grasp the simple algorithm these operate on and solve them under a minute, you're guttertrash.
Lolo 2 & 3 greatly improved in puzzle quality over 1. The only mechanic that's never quite clear is shooting monsters into eggs, pushing eggs into water, and riding said egg like a raft, hopping on and off at very specific points before it sinks without warning.