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>Shoehorn new character into remake of an already complete game

Yeah, because that's worked out so well for SMT.

>>15091255

>With the appearance of new Reapers, get to the core of a story that has yet to be told. New Noise have been added to compliment the new scenario.

So they're adding a new subplot for a new charaacter? Admittedly I've never played the original but I don't really see what's wrong with this.

Is it like Another Day where it's separate and optional? That's the only way I'd be okay with this.

>>15091255

It's like Chrono Trigger all over again

>>15091255

Friendly reminder that people who beg for sequels to games that don't need them deserve the corporate cock slaps they get.

>>15091435

Thats the only thing I can imagine. With how tight the story already was I can't imagine them stuffing in a whole slew of new characters.

>>15091477

I beg for niche characters in a mainstream party game, what does that make me?

How will this even play on the switch if there's no top screen? This is like the mobile port.

>>15091483

Not as bad, I guess that's the only form of return I can find acceptable at that point since it wont resuscitate a franchise into a shambling corpse.

>>15091493

The "portable" screen, I would assume.

>>15091529

But that's the only screen. The screen is built onto the actual console part of the switch.

Either you have the switch docked and you play it on a TV, or it's out of the dock and you play it on the switch itself. You only ever get one screen.

>>15091493

They can still split the screen in half, each side controlled by each joycon

>>15091255

Loli reaper and some girl that is probably Rule 63 of Neku.

It could be worse.

>>15091360

Just compare SMT:Strange Journey with Strange Journey Redux.

Then ask yourself how badly it can go?

>>15091493

Splitscreen?

>>15091493

This basically is the iOS port.

>>15091493

The same way you emulate DS on PC, have two screens on one screen.

Maybe this time Rhyme will actually be utilized properly. What an underused character. I was hoping she would at least show up as a secret partner in the postgame or something, but no.

>>15091538

Shows how much attention I've paid to the Switch.

Reminder that fucking Square-Enix thought a fucking iPort warranted a fucking countdown teaser.

>>15091483

Still disgusts me how Sony couldn't even be bothered to actually clear some of their classic series reps (be it first part or Sony exclusive third party, but ''especially the former") in PSA before they went looking for multiplat entries like Donte and Big Daddy. I mean, in a way you could say said missing characters dodged a bullet because the game was also poor mechanically, but still. It's like they looked at Super Smash Brothers and failed to see the part where it's a celebration of series old and new, and just saw "crossover fighting."

>>15091634

Iirc Sony just want a bland product that people would buy en masse iirc someone autistic made a documentary about Donte being an attempt to make Devil May Cry a financial success as Call of Duty or some thing like that, if a big hit happens, then every other game must be shaped the same way Because consumers that like niche titles are statistical failures?

>>15091634

Pretty much, like they had so many franchises to choose from and they fucked up massively.

I'l buy it. It's been more than ten years since I played it on the DS and since it has co-op I can co op it with my brother.

>>15091717

Yeah, something about how familiarity sales, thus companies want in on what they consider trends. Meanwhile a more unique, less derivative work can have more reason to exist, but will get looked into by much fewer people for whatever reasons, and depending on how much freedom the creators have with it, their publishers will ride their ass about failing to sell as well as other games in their genre/style because apparently what they wanted to fund was supposed to be a clone, or something. Granted, some companies are more willing to a take a chance (Marvelous and D3 for example don't seem to mind funding niche, at times risque stuff), but still. Also an imbalance of marketing (blowing assloads to advertise mainstream shit that doesn't need multiple times the development cost as a push, while on the other hand failing to market games that actually need the awareness and then acting like there was no fanbase), but that's a different topic.

>>15091722

Maybe it shouldn't be a surprise really, given their tendency to abandon franchises after a generation, if not just a game or two. A handful of their first party, or at least directly owned series have been lucky enough just to see entries across two generations. I suppose maybe they figured representatives from the likes of their dead/dormant works would be "literally who?" tier now, but again, that could well be tied back into failure to understand "celebrating works old and new"; previous fans like the acknowledgment and playing as characters they like, and from people that weren't fans prior, maybe some fraction will become interested enough to drop money on rereleases, assuming there were any. But no, got to go MULTIPLAT for PLAYSTATION All Stars before getting remotely enough first party/Sony owned representation.

Still find it odd they were apparently considering Dart, a character from a one off, while Wild Arms, a series with five main games (seven counting remake and TRPG spin off) couldn't make the cut for a rep. But then again, PSA being western developed, it wouldn't shock me if LoD got priority due to having a Greatest Hits releases here while WA as a series never got it once in the west, despite being the work with more lasting power.

>>15091717

I wouldn't mind having another game like TWEWY, either if it's a direct sequel, in the same universe as the game, or something similar. But this is even worse than DLC, jesus.

>>15091803

Nobody wants to do risks with a 100 million investment. I started playing videogames in an age were we said something was in "development hell" after two years. Good times. All sorts of crazy stuff got made.

The World Ends With You is the only thing Square-Enix has ever done that I've ever enjoyed and cared about so it's no big surprise they've fucked it up all up.

>>15091621

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>>15092023

One of the things that can happen if you like something is that it gets ruined in any way possible later on so, be careful of what you wish for since it might happen in the worst possible way

>>15092208

I wouldn't even care about them not making a sequel, if they didn't tease it so damn hard.

>>15091560

I never played the original Strange Journey, but I’m playing the Redux now and it’s pretty good. What’s so bad about the remake?

>>15092264

Art is shit

>>15092412

But wasn't the idea that the redux was bad because it had a new character? What does the art have to do with that?

>>15091255

>No archive for that link

Fuck off cuckchanner

>>15092529

>>15092412

I don’t really give a fuck about art, it looks fine, all I care about is the gameplay and it’s pretty good so far. And the new character so far has only showed up a scant few times for a few minutes each time. So it seems if you really hate the new character you can kinda just ignore them for the most part and the extra dungeon and endings are optional.

>>15092551

>archiving nonpozzed sites

Stale meme

>>15092573

Shit I thought that said Gamasutra

Hopefully this whore isn't too obnoxious, and is rarely seen

But I thought never ever.

>>15091255

The archive that the faggot OP couldn't even provide.

https://archive.is/NiK15

>>15092976

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>>15092997

>He doesn't understand why archives are made.

Dumbass.

>>15091717

Mango it's simple economics. The more money you put into a project, the more you don't want it to fail, so the biggest budgeted movies and games and whatnot do a lot of very safe things and pull just a couple of twists to prevent them being too samey, see what works and rinse and repeat with every other subgenre, that's why you don't see a divide between full blown action movies and comedic, Jackie-Chan-esque ones anymore, or how all romantic comedies have a comic relief character and all comedies have a romantic subplot shoehorned into them. When you step out of line, you aren't risking that movie's financial success, but the entire industry's, can you imagine if two or three big budgeted movies flopped consecutively what would happen to the (((Hollyjew)))?

With games it's the exact same thing, except that instead of Moichandaisin the companies can use ports or lootboxes, but the core stays the same, that's why Fallout is Skyrim with guns or why for a time the only kind of games were FPSs.

>>15091306

You mean persona?

>>15091493

>This is like the mobile port

because thats what it is. I wouldn't be surprised if they added microtransactions too.

>>15091306

>>15094183

Ignore me I'm retarded and haven't gotten to Strange Journy redux

What's the best way to emulate the original? Use a tablet as the bottom screen? Spend a shitload on a graphics tablet with a screen on it and use that? I've not used a good graphics tablet, and I imagine this game would really fuck up the screen if you can't use a protector. I needed one when I played on DS anyway. Still, using your fingers on a cheap tablet sounds like it wouldn't be as nice. I don't know.

>>15094676

Just buy it. You can get it for like 20 freedombucks on ebay.

>No manually controlling both characters & light puck system like in the DS version

>Uses the shitty mobile port version's system instead

Into the trash it goes

>>15094822

Just download Desmume and pirate a rom of the game, it's not rockets surgery.

>>15092264

>>15092568

>Art is shit.

>All original endings are made into fake/worst endings by sheer Alex existence and her importance to main plot.

>Game difficulty was lessened from all changes made to gameplay. I don't mean QoL things, but something like enemy search enemies giving exp(didn't give any in original), rare formas being way easier to find etc.

>>15094676

I used desmume on PC, I only had problems with getting mingle exp and using microphone based pins.

I own thr DS version so the hell does it matter

>>15094875

lets not ignore the DLC issues

>>15094875

Atlus should stop making Mary Sues like Alex. SJ's remake sold more worse than the original in Japan so the pandering just doesn't work.

>>15095788

How bad it was? I forgot about it.

>>15095821

Aye. Someone in Atlus took "No Marie, No Buy" meme way too hard.

>>15094865

Playing TWEWY on computer is difficult due to the fast-paced touch control demands of the game, with which a mouse would be difficult and tiring to use. It's not just point and click

>>15094676

Just buy a used 3DS and get a compatible DS flashcart DS D-Pad is shit. Playing with the 3DS slider is infinitely superior

>>15097190

This.

why are you so scared of a loli

>>15112284

It's a bad habit of remakes nowadays to insert new characters that weren't there in the original to "spice things up". Because they and their character arcs were made years after the original (and typically without the original writers), the new guys typically end up clashing with the tone of the original work or are forced to hijack things from the original cast to justify their presence. Examples include the aforementioned Alex in SMT Strange Journey Redux, Marie in Persona 4 Golden, Patty in Tales of Vesperia PS3, among others.

>>15112369

oh that does sound silly. i thought shed just be a bonus party member or something with no impact on anything.

>>15112369

>Patty in Tales of Vesperia PS3

I can't imagine this one being as bad as the others. How bad was she?

>>15112378

Because free beer, all they want me to do is teach engrish.

>>15112396

She's a Reaper it seems so she's either going to be an antagonist or a neutral-aligned supporting character, who will probably hijack the plot for some stupid addition that clashes with the original story.

>>15113006

Patty's certainly less bad than more recent examples (supposedly she was supposed to be in the original 360 version but got scrapped, with the evidence being that her room in Capua Torim was left in) as her subplot is far less connected to the primary story, I was just using her as an example of the "forced to hijack things from the original cast to justify their presence" part of remake-exclusive characters, as she does takes some lines and skits from other characters which can make her seem like she breaks up the established group dynamic of the party to insert herself. Her presence is overall regarded as auxiliary, to the point its questionable why she was there to begin with.