b40006 No.14999593
ITT post good video game lore
I'll start
http://donkeykong.wikia.com/wiki/The_Great_Ape_War
>Cranky Kong was the main Commander and Lead Organizer of the Ape Alliance. Though his loss against Stanley the Bugman shattered his hopes and dreams, The Great Ape War is likely what took the biggest toll on his health, giving him a hunchback and requiring a cane to walk. It is assumed that Cranky was still in top shape during the war, as he brought it to an end after defeating General Krusha in a final battle.
>Donkey Kong Jr. likely fought in The War in order to keep his family safe. It is thought that his disappearance in the games is linked to the war. It's unknown if DK Jr. survived the war or simply disappeared. Fans theorize that a mysterious unused Kong character wearing a fedora could be a disguised Jr.
fae065 No.14999600
>This page contains theoretical information based on the research and speculation of one or several other users. It has not been officially verified by Nintendo and its factual accuracy can be disputed.
BUT IT'S JUST A THEORY!
1a3ccb No.14999601
Squall is dead and Rinoa is Ultimecia
Prove me wrong with dubs
fae065 No.14999608
>>14999601
But Rinoa died in space?
4cc703 No.14999681
>>14999593
>Funky Kong
>Funky Kong was known as the "Brown Baron" for being the greatest pilot in the war, though he lost his tail after General Klump shot him down during a dog fight.
>Manky Kong Betrayal
>When the future was looking bleak for the Primate Alliance, certain groups started questioning whether the war could truly be won. One specific group, the Manky Kongs, began to prioritize the survival of their kind alone, resulting in a rebellion against the Primate Alliance.
I kek'd, these are pretty great. I thought it was weird though since it didn't seem like a fanfiction wiki, but this pic related explains it. Since it wasn't taken down, probably one of the admins or a friend of the admins decided to use this website to show off their fanfiction theories.
34ca8e No.14999697
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>>14999593
>>14999600
>>14999681
Doesn't all the Great Ape War lore come from vid related?
68eae9 No.14999741
4cc703 No.14999752
>>14999697
The wiki page came before the video so this isn't just some eceleb meme, this page is pure 100% natural autism.
8f9a2b No.14999765
>>14999609
MAH BOI
DINNER IS WHAT ALL TRUE WARRIORS STRIVE FOR
1911a9 No.14999939
34ca8e No.14999950
>>14999752
Well, shit. What is it with fan wikis and autistic shit like this?
d4c198 No.15000065
>>14999950
It's the best platform for getting their shit attention, to the point of fooling people into thinking it's canon?
4cc703 No.15000124
>>15000065
>to the point of fooling people into thinking it's canon?
If you check the page, the comments section is filled with people complaining and wanting the page removed. PegasusMan is replying to most of the comments and if you check his user page he's an admin so I bet it's his doing.
25abd0 No.15000479
>Stanley the Bugman
>that mouth
c9a1b9 No.15000526
Exhibit A: unused metaknight concept art from kirby's adventure, released 1993
Exhibit B: Morpho Knight from Kirby Star Allies, released 25 years later, a fusion of a butterfly and Galacta Knight (identity unknown, sometimes speculated to be future kirby)
Exhibit C: That butterfly, which appears at the start of every main kirby game since Return to Dreamland, 2011
Who is the butterfly and what is his plan?
c9a1b9 No.15000607
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In all Pokémon games from Ruby and Sapphire until Black and White 2, the Pokémon Azurill would sometimes (33% chance iirc) change sex from female to male when evolving (embed related). This was typically seen as a glitch by players, but it persisted for 2 more generations after Azurill's debut. Generation 6 of Pokémon marked several big changes in battle mechanics. Accompanying these changes was a massive change to the lore. Pokémon generations 6 and 7 are set in a brand new alternate universe. It just so happens that Generation 6 also "corrected" Azurill's changing sex, yet left many of the other supposed glitches untouched, such as Nidoqueen not being able to breed. The question, then, is as follows. What is the difference between the two universes that is causing Azurill to change sex in the original universe but not the new one? Was the original universe more polluted or something?
182d7b No.15000640
I always thought Cranky Kong was the Kong that Mario fought in the original arcade game. That would set the Donkey Kong Country series decades after the Super Mario series if true
7b60b9 No.15000707
>>15000640
>timelines
Remove yourself.
however:
DKC implies so with the intro sequence, where Cranky is playing the donkey kong theme sitting on a beam reminiscent of the original arcade.
f9a941 No.15000760
>>15000607
The difference is that the devs are too lazy or stubborn to change a bug that is so unimportant and already common knowledge.
003d0e No.15000870
>>15000526
You know, for a second there I thought his feet were a pair of tits in the 2nd picture.
182d7b No.15000897
>>15000640
I knew I wasn't crazy. It is confirmed in the game's instruction book.
b36a55 No.15000990
>>15000607
Gamefreak didn't fix it in gens 3-5 because if you wanted a legit perfect IV azumarill you bred azumarill with a hacked ditto until it shat out a good baby, and said baby would be a marill, to get an azurill you had to have azumarill hold a sea incense when breeding, no one did that because azurill didn't learn unique moves and it was hilariously weak, you only bred it once to fill up the pokedex and then you shoved it into a box to let it rot, gender change was irrelevant because you weren't going to level it up at all, people who wanted to battle with an azumarill didn't even knew it could change genders as a baby because they started out with a marill.
Come gen 6 where pokemon in the baby egg group get 3 guaranteed perfect IVs whether caught from the wild or bred and gender is suddenly super important, people were actively breeding and catching azurill (because of this statfag shit and the fairy retyping) and gamefreak didn't want confused kids asking their parents why their cute blue ball suddenly grew a penis or gained bobs and vegana.
d1a156 No.15001045
Humans and Pokemon used to marry in ancient times.
4cc703 No.15001067
>>15000607
>Was the original universe more polluted or something?
>The chemicals in the water are turning the freaking azurills gay
61da14 No.15001075
>>15001045
>Humans and Pokemon used to marry in ancient times.
>in ancient times.
0387c1 No.15001078
4cc703 No.15001092
>>15001045
This was a normal thing because long ago people and pokemon were the same.
d1a156 No.15001131
>>15001078
haha
>>15001092
That means that they were able to breed too
ecd6d9 No.15001176
>>15001075
Chad Machokes are stealing all our women.
04a2f9 No.15001184
>>15001176
CHOKED.COM
Director: Hypno
Producer: Probopass
Marketer: Mr. Mime
3006e7 No.15001193
>>15001045
I want to marry a Pokemon.
04a2f9 No.15001211
>>15001193
I now pronounce you, husband and wife.
42b462 No.15001230
>>15001092
>tfw that autsitic monster grill pokegirls porn site is Pokemon's past
d010c4 No.15001303
>>14999593
>wikia
>Not using the better dkwiki, or mariowiki
f51905 No.15001910
The Merchant's real name in RE4 is Aleister Winchester. Actually, his "real name" is just an alias because his true identity is Albert Wesker.
8d5f01 No.15002042
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I like how the split timeline theory went from fanon to canon. Even though on a personal level, I really do miss arguing about that and how the Zelda games chronologically fit together.
0e3758 No.15002055
>>15001915
>turn a nigger into a warframe
>it becomes Umbra
wew
677bf1 No.15002243
Ys has a pretty deep lore, but you have to look for it in order to get it.
a665a0 No.15002291
>>15002043
>>15002042
>>15002044
>Four swords
>green (courage) blue (wisdom) red (power) purple (lowrule)
>three time lines (tri force)
>each game has its own sequel after its release (a link to to past -> a link between worlds) (ocarina of time -> majoras mask) (link's awakening -> oracle of seasons & ages)
>Smash bros has Young link, BOTW link and Toon link
e780fb No.15002310
>>15002042
The biggest bullshit though is the third "Link defeated" timeline. Like, where does it come from? If it's about any potential Game Over the player might have then you might as well have an infinite number of timelines (and I pray that's not the case since I hate that bullshit in media).
a665a0 No.15002314
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>>15002310
Here is when link got defeated
369efb No.15002529
>>15002310
Time travel is shit and I hate it. I have yet to see any piece in any media do it close to something that satisfies me.
Some autists posit there is a timeline where Link doesn't go back to the past (or the future) and since the Hero doesn't show up then Ganon wins (more of a Ganon wins than Link is defeated but now we're arguing semantics).
If it's possible for the Hero to lose, then every game should have a timeline split after it.
Honestly, the only real reason there is a timeline at all is because Nintendo had to satisfy autists clamourng for a timeline who wouldn't accept the whole "it's literally a Legend that gets told and retold and it changes in the telling" aspect that happens to any popular myth.
How many versions of Hercules are there? How many of King Arthur? Of Cuchulain?
Aside from games that directly tie in to one another (OOT > MM, 1 > 2, ALTTP > LA > OOA > OOS) what does it matter?
bb442e No.15002589
>>15001075
In all honesty, what are the chances that all the young trainers lose their virginity to their own Pokemon? They set out in the wild and the only thing akin to permanent company they have are their little critters.
04a2f9 No.15011178
>>15002589
Bitch what the fuck
b40006 No.15011254
>>15002589
Makes sense
No one here can honestly say they wouldn't at least try to once
4724f1 No.15011323
>>15000990
That's a pretty solid explanation
1b4611 No.15011325
>>15002589
Depends on whether the trainer is using anything remotely humanoid, or a geodude and a bidoof
4724f1 No.15011339
>>15011178
Hey everybody, this sick bastard wouldn't fuck a pokemon!
c86cb4 No.15011360
>>15002589
/ss/ Pokemons is a top-tier genre my good sire
04a2f9 No.15011366
b40006 No.15011419
>>15011325
>has to be humanoid
mate
8d5f01 No.15011426
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<choose Synthesis = reapers live, and you'll just be indoctrinated like the reaper puppet, saren, who promoted Synthesis
<choose Control = reapers live, and you'll just be indoctrinated like the reaper puppet, illusive man, who promoted Control
<shoot the kid = reaper child drops the charade and says "SO BE IT" in a demonic voice, the reapers eventually winning and genociding everyone
>choose Destroy = all reapers die, and you finally broke free of their indoctrination attempts. the only good ending there is
>the secret scene with Shepard's breath meaning that he's alive and free now
Bioware was given an ingenious theory on a plate and they just squandered it. It was a quick way to fix the shitty writing of their endings. But instead, they didn't adopt this Indoctrination Theory that was honestly far more clever than anything their crap writers could've come up with. Preferring to ignore it completely and shit things up even further with their Extended Cuts that only placed a small bandage on a huge gash wound.
04a2f9 No.15011441
Lore; Mark is a Syrian Jew.
a66c75 No.15011458
>>15002529
They needed a place for the games prior to OoT style since Nintendo just goes for game first then decides how it fits into the timeline later.
My headcanon to the Fallen Line is one they mention with the nightmares and visions Link and Zelda have. Basically it IS one without time travel, where they learn "Oops, the Hero is too young" and the Imprisoning War occurs, so one timeline has them age Link to stop Dorf THEN send him back with the info learned/proof. …Though that would suggest that Zelda wouldn't have been able to convince her father the King beforehand had Link not experienced that other future timeline…. And it still really doesn't explain why FSA is in the TP timeline.
9962bd No.15014510
>>15002529
Aside from Back to the Future and maybe H. G. Wells' The Time Machine, I don't think I've ever managed to enjoy a story with time travel in it.
cc8813 No.15014939
>>15014510
There's a Spanish movie called Time Crime that's pretty good despite the name
98ca88 No.15016426
>>15002589
you can't lose your virginity to something not of your species
5e3040 No.15016455
>>15016426
>Girl lets a dog fuck her
>Hymen breaks
>"But she still has her virginity! :^)"
e888be No.15016558
>>15000640
Cranky Kong is explicitly stayed to be the Donkey Kong that cucked Mario in the original game.
d1a156 No.15016577
>>15011325
>humanoid
What a boring life you must live
468895 No.15016612
>>14999593
>The Great Ape War is likely what took the biggest toll on his health, giving him a hunchback and requiring a cane to walk
Or maybe, just maybe, he's old? The guy is like 90 years old, of course he's gonna use a cane when he walks.
>>14999600
And it's a shit theory too.
9742ab No.15016711
>>15000526
I'm pretty sure the butterfly is a friend of Kirby's since he shows up next to him all the time, but it's one sided because he's a butterfly Kirby thinks nothing of. When he saw Galactica Knight, he owned his ass because he too is a protector of the universe who can also absorb power like Kirby, but since he's a dumbass eldritch butterfly he mistook the Guest Stars as enemies (them literally being a collection of monsters and former enemies Kirby's fought and eaten over the years) and decides to clean house using Galatica Knight's power who he just ate since he doesn't know who they are.
or he's just a fucking butterfly
677bf1 No.15016732
>>14999697
>Read the video description
>This video was made 3 years ago. Its not the kind of joke I'd make today, but there's a small joke in here making light of PTSD, and I wanted to just give people a heads up about it just in case!
468895 No.15016738
>>15016732
>got triggered by a trigger warning
Holy kek
04a2f9 No.15016743
>>15016738
I'm pretty sure his point was that the "trigger" warning was not needed at all. Retard.
677bf1 No.15016752
>>15016738
>Point out thing
>"lol you got triggered"
???
000000 No.15016769
4e1812 No.15016789
>>15001075
Isn't there a character in the recent games where a they loudly shout a pokemon is their boyfriend and it's some dog pokemon?
57b075 No.15016820
In World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, in a quest in the Frostmourne Cavern in the Dragonblight, players can see a flashback of the interaction between Arthas and Muradin prior to Arthas claiming Frostmourne. It turns out that Muradin was not slain when the ice encasing Frostmourne shattered, but was merely wounded. A short time after Arthas left, Muradin awoke. Confused, hurt, and with total amnesia, he wandered out into the snow.
f84f84 No.15016873
>>15001910
as a teen I wanted to date the merchant, the voice and the fact that he's always there where you need him was a big turn on
I'm ashamed of how many times I jerked off to the clip of him opening his coat
0cb628 No.15017159
>>15016768
>>15016769
Goons keep walking, this is a Friends board.
87a76b No.15017245
>>15016873
I think you have an exhibitionist fetish.
a17249 No.15017246
>>15017159
Anyone with not shit taste in anime wont like your 3D slice of life tier garbage. Calling others goons wont make your taste in anime fucking trash.
369efb No.15017261
>>15014510
BTTF is enjoyable but it's not perfect.
The Time Machine is better, but it's less time-travel hijinks and more of a large forward time-skip (which sounds like semantic fuckery but it's an important distinction). The idea that the past is solid and immutable is a good concept and one I actually believe with, since the possibilities for it have been "solved" and the probability waves for whatever was going on have already collapsed.
>>15016455
What if a girl breaks her hymen through rigorous physical activity? It can happen doing gymnastics or horse-riding for example.
0cb628 No.15017265
>>15017246
>3D slice of life tier garbage
Cheap and empty insults. Any retard can call Stalker garbage too. You don't look like a tasteful expert, just a juvenile shit-stirrer who judges sight unseen on the basis of looking badass on an anonymous imageboard.
fcc7ee No.15017281
>>15016873
Fags never fail at being retarded.
c5d66e No.15017282
>>15017265
>Cheap and empty insults
Fitting for a cheap and empty anime.
14c33b No.15017306
>>15017282
>military
>puny woman
>nails polished
>eyes made up
>when you have to FUCKING KILL OR BE KILLED
<Germany
c5d66e No.15017307
>>15017306
It's a cosplay dingus.
14c33b No.15017316
>>15017307
I'd say the dolling up makes it a failed cosplay, but it wouldn't surprise me if the german military lets its troops waste their time on that sort of shit.
The final touch would to let a mudslime Turk rape her for some added realism.
69eea8 No.15017354
>>15016873
>the fact that he's always there where you need him was a big turn on
Have you talked to anyone about your daddy issues?
96483d No.15017445
>>15011426
The ending is an allegory for the JQ.
510053 No.15017625
>>15017354
That's probably what led me to like him to begin with
Where he's the only one who helps you when you're down, of course there's a chance for attachment
Similar to the later love for Solaire he was there for you when you needed him, and had a great voice
510053 No.15017635
>>15017306
The ingame model looks like she has eyeliner/mascara on, which wouldn't be good to accidentally smear into your eye in the heat of battle
Ideally we wouldn't even have women in actual combat/raid situations, but they just keep adding them
14c33b No.15017672
>>15017635
>wouldn't be good to accidentally smear into your eye in the heat of battle
Could you imagine?
>this becomes a problem
>instead of sorting their shit out
>modern militaries decide to spend tax dollars for chemists to devise 100% sweat proof make-up
>it's standard issue
Reminder: diversity is our strength!
92a298 No.15018874
See that grin?
it's a Voltorb eye
10dc8c No.15018899
622f98 No.15019005
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>>15016873
It's difficult to imagine, but I could see someone jacking off to this.
c5d66e No.15019027
>>15017672
She's supposed to be SWAT, so it's a little more believable. Also you seem the believe the military doesn't actively spend millions on stuff even more retarded than that. At least if they made sweat proof mascara they could sell it and get a return on investment.
9742ab No.15019329
>>15016873
You'd better be a woman, gaylord.
c707ef No.15019353
>>15016873
I don't have enough AJs for this.
510053 No.15020965
>>15019005
With that accent, was the merchant a Australian?
6a2806 No.15020984
>>15020965
>not recognizing northeastern london accent
kek
510053 No.15021002
>>15020984
There's not nearly enough mentions of the great bong tower
e04ffb No.15026841
>>15002310
I used to like to think that the best explanation would be that the original timeline, where the Knights of Hyrule defeat Ganon, is the one where Link went back in time. Technically you only need to go back in time once to beat the game, so it works nicely. But then I remembered that Ganondorf doesn't become Ganon until he actually meets Link and takes the Triforce from him, so if Link goes back in time and they never meet, Ganon would never exist.
>>15002529
>Honestly, the only real reason there is a timeline at all is because Nintendo had to satisfy autists clamourng for a timeline who wouldn't accept the whole "it's literally a Legend that gets told and retold and it changes in the telling" aspect that happens to any popular myth.
The "Link defeated" timeline is dumb, but this is even dumber. Nearly every Zelda game makes clear where it takes place in relation to at least one other game. Zelda II is a little after Zelda I. Link's Awakening is a bit after Link to the Past. Ocarina of Time is clearly the backstory described in Link to the Past, and the names of the Sages being towns in Zelda II imply it takes place long before then as well. Majora's Mask is very explicitly after Ocarina of Time. Oracles aren't as explicit but fit nicely between Link to the Past and Link's Awakening. Wind Waker very obviously describes the events of Ocarina of Time, but not the timeline that Link gets sent back to at the end, so it's a different timeline. I get why people would want to figure it's the same one, but even then, Majora's Mask clearly takes place in a timeline different from Link to the Past, since Ganon doesn't even exist in Majora's Mask's timeline, but nobody blames that game for the alt timelines.
Ironically, the only title that doesn't make clear where it takes place in relation to at least one other title is Link to the Past, which nobody ever tries to imply is anything but a prequel. But the only implication that it is a prequel is in the localized title. Triforce of the Gods doesn't imply it's a prequel, and Ganon is dead at the end, despite being alive at the beginning of Zelda 1. The closest you get to an explanation for that is in the secret ending of the Oracle games, where Ganon is like half revived, but then you kill him again so it still doesn't work.
Also, the Link defeated timeline results from just taking Link to the Past's backstory literally. It's easy enough to assume Ocarina of Time differs because the legend got a bit distorted over time, and Link was forgotten and replaced with the Knights of Hyrule, but if you take it literally, it means Link didn't win that game. So there you go. Not very elegant but at least you can get where it comes from.
tl;dr: nobody gets confused over Link to the Past, even though that's the only one that doesn't make itself an explicit prequel or sequel. Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, and Wind Waker make very clear where they take place.
6f192c No.15040355
>>15001045
You can't marry an animal faggot.
>>15011419
>>>/fur/
e5b79e No.15040398
>>15002529
The whole "Re-telling of legends" thing would work if Wind Waker didn't purposely try and tie itself back to Ocarina and didn't flood the entirety of Hyrule, thereby confirming that the events of OOT happened and weren't just a story
Honestly, when you think about it, Wind Waker is responsible for a lot of the modern problems with Zelda, but good luck arguing that with all the people that grew up with a Gamecube
00c4ee No.15040448
>>15017261
>What if a girl breaks her hymen through rigorous physical activity? It can happen doing gymnastics or horse-riding for example.
Neither of those are sex you retard. Did you honestly just compare dog fucking to gymnastics in taking a girl's virginity?
b705b0 No.15040471
>Funky Kong was known as the "Brown Baron" for being the greatest pilot in the war, though he lost his tail after General Klump shot him down during a dog fight. This is why many people believe Funky Kong is an ape, but he is actually half monkey, half ape due to dominate genes from Donkey Kong Jr., his father, and recessive genes from an unknown female monkey for a mother.
Funky and Donkey are brothers?
0387c1 No.15040560
>>15040448
Losing virginity is defined as rupturing the cherry, so… yes? This is why people can suck dick and take it up the ass and still be virgins.
f5aa6c No.15040583
>>15040448
i am not saying i know personally, but i have heard girls just put whole brushes and fat sharpies down there and give a fuck about having a hymen because its no longer cool being a virgin between girls, and neither do care about it the alpha chads they are aiming to bang
35349b No.15040609
>>15002310
The retarded fan theory is that when Link wishes on the Triforce at the end of ALTTP it randomly creates an alternate reality, that doesn't effect the Link who made the wish, where the Hero of Time doesn't fail in OoT so the Adult timeline is made and then the Link form there goes back to the Child timeline to stop Ganondorf before OoT which fulfils the wish.
The real reason is that Wind Waker fucked any chance of a coherent timeline.
40da74 No.15040631
I remember vandalized this wiki years ago when HE posting was at its zenith
>>14999600
>implying the great ape war isn't canon
ba71e2 No.15040752
>>15001092
>people and pokemon are the same
Explain why all pokemon can lay eggs but not humans. If it was a speciation event that that should mean that humans and pokemon are incompatible. This also means that humans had typing, I'm assuming that its the ??? typing that sometimes pops up.
69aef2 No.15041058
>>15000607
>What is the difference between the two universes
The war in Kalos, 3000 years prior. That's the difference.
Didn't happen in any of the previous timelines, so those worlds didn't get irradiated by the Ultimate Weapon, as it was never built.
04a2f9 No.15041136
>>15040952
My god, that's a fucking eyesore to read
>cuckchan
Of fucking course.
87a76b No.15041150
>>15040952
>Can you Ocelnot?
Heh.
69aef2 No.15041252
>>15040952
You want more Spaceworld lore?
There's a romhack somewhere that makes the game bypass demo mode and start a regular new game.
Below's what I managed to piece together from my meager understanding of moonrunes:
>It's only been a year since Gen I
>Red and Blue, altogether, managed to catch and document 150 kinds of Pokémon
>Since then, more and more kinds have been reported in regions outside of Kanto
>Realizing there isn't much more to learn by staying in Kanto, Oak packs up shop and moves the lab to nearby Silent Hill
>Very few people know this and assume he's missing
>This may have intended to lead up to Imposter Oak showing up later on
>Be Gold, a kid from Silent Hill
>Share a room with your older bro, 3 years your senior
>You like tinkering with an old Trainer Gear he gave you
>One day, you get an email
>It's from Oak
>That Oak - The one the radio station says is missing
>He wants you to meet him at his lab; has a request for you
>As you step outside, your neighbor, Silver, runs up to you
>Not an abandoned kid in this timeline, he's a much more upbeat individual kinda reminds me a little of the rival from gen 4
>Wants to brag how he just got an email from "none other than the famous Professor Oak"
>Gets a little miffed when he finds out you got one too
>For some reason he asks you what you call your mom Wasn't sure what he was saying, but a naming prompt came up; if nothing else, this explains why pic related exists in the final build
>Preset options roughly translate to "Mom, Mama, and Mommy"
>After that, he tells you to meet up with him later at the lab
>Not much to do here, so you try leaving town
>As you approach the grass, someone runs over to stop you
>It's Oak
>Blue Oak
>Utterly humiliated at the hands of Red a year ago, his pride broken, he did some soul searching, and started helping out his gramps at the lab this is probably why Gary became a researcher in the anime
>The scene otherwise plays out like in Gen 1; you follow him back to the lab
>Meet the professor
>Asks if you wanna hear a story; he'll keep asking until you say yes
>Goes on to recap the first block of greentext
>Basically, going by the success he had the last time he had two kids go out and fill up the Pokédex, he wants you and Silver do go out and do that with a new, updated model
>To that end, he first has you to follow him to a backroom, where you pick your starter
>Rival picks the type advantage
>Going back to the main room, Blue hands you each a Pokédex, and wishes you luck
>Silver challenges you as you try to leave
>and proceeds to curbstomp you with a level 10 meowth because it's a fucking beta
>he has some win dialogue and the game resets
>pic related; it knows coin toss, a move cut from the beta, and the card was drawn by one of the monster designers from the beta
>i dunno if beating him would make a difference since i dunno what byte i have to change in the RAM to nerf his meowth
35349b No.15041986
>>15041058
What fresh level of autism is this?
92a298 No.15042022
>>15041986
The astroturf flavor.
69aef2 No.15042079
>>15042022
Astroturf? How do you mean?
722d62 No.15044144
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>>15016873
A cure for your ills.
40da74 No.15046999
I was just playing DK 64 and I just noticed something. I don't have any screenshots (original hardware, no capture card) so you're just going to have to believe me.
>Gloomy Galleon
>there's a sunken ship in the middle of it full of mini-levels for each kong
>Donkey Kong's takes place in the brig
>there is a skeleton in shackles on one wall. The skeleton is about 2.5 times as tall as Donkey Kong and it is a HUMAN skeleton
>there is also a bed with a kremling skull+crossbones
So kremling pirates must have captured a giant human(oid) and the left him to die when the ship sank.
DEEPEST LORE
There is one other entity in the game who could have a similar size and skeletal structure: the banana fairy. Did the kremlings capture and kill a relative of the banana fairy?
0fcf18 No.15047103
>>15040398
But Ocarina of Time was much more tied to Link to the Past than Wind Waker was tied to Ocarina of Time.
>>15040609
But Majora's Mask also obviously took place in a different timeline than Link to the Past.
3522b8 No.15047603
>>14999600
>>14999690
>>14999741
>Mega Man's story is genuinely interesting and lore-rich, but isn't widely understood because of how it's told. Poorly.
>Some failed normalfag plays a couple of Classic and X games. Ignores decades of source material and development history.
>"WHOA DUDE, DID YOU KNOW THAT DR. LIGHT WAS ACTUALLY THE BAD GUY!? BUT IT'S JUST A THEORY. A GAYYYYYME THEORY!"
>People take this idiot seriously.
PURIFY THE CASUALS, REINITIALIZATION NOW.
e3f386 No.15048232
>>14999690
thenks for watching
e3f386 No.15048312
>>15017307 they have painted nails in the actual game too
so does almost every female character that isn't wearing gloves even though they're supposed to be in the special forces and special forces obviously don't paint their nails in real life
ac167e No.15055155
>>15041986
>>15042022
If you want, I can write up a post elaborating how I came up with that. If the thread's still around, that is.
69aef2 No.15064239
>>15055155
>>15042022
>>15041058
>>15041986
Here's how I came up with those years:
It's been stated in Sun and Moon that over 10 years have passed since Gen 1.
We don't know how much time's passed between Gens 2/4 and 5, but all the confirmed timeskips add up to about 7 years. That means at least 3 years passed, but there's a few factors that need to be accounted for.
First, there's the Last Rocket Grunt's cameo in Gen 5:
In the years following Gen II, he moved to Unova, at first intending to revive Team Rocket there, but he fell in love with and later married someone, and started a family with her.
Judging by their kid's size, it's definitely been more than 3 years.
Next, there's Red:
He looks to be somewhere in his early 20s by Gen 7.
He was 11 in Gen 1, so if at least 10 years past, that would put him at 21, at the bare minimum.
But "early 20s" roughly covers 20~24, so that leaves us with a four year range: 21~24
(21~24) - (11 + 7) = 4~6 years passed between Gen 2/4 and 5.
Finally, there's the years:
I figured Gen 1 coincided with the year the games first came out: 1996.
From there, Gen 2/4's set in 1999
Gen 5's set between 2002 and 2005
Gen 5-2/6's set between 2004 and 2007
and Gen 7's set between 2006 and 2009.
So how do you close the gap?
Enter Lysandre.
In Pokémon Generations, the 16th episode opens with a keynote where he reveals what's considered a new, revolutionary device: the Holocaster.
Keeping in mind the range of years Gen 6 appears to fall in, consider this:
In real life, in 2007, Steve Jobs revealed what was considered a new, revolutionary device: the iPhone.
Ergo, it's probably safe to assume the reveal of the Holocaster coincides with that of the iPhone, which means approximately 6 years passed between Gen 2/4 and 5.
18bb38 No.15064290
>>15048232
>cast from many different countries and cultures
>"all wypipo are the same"
69aef2 No.15064309
>>15064239
I should also add that making it 6 years works because:
1) It accounts for the time the Last Rocket Grunt could've spent between his arrival in Unova to the birth of his son.
2) It keeps Red in his early 20s, technically.
3) By aligning the release of the Holocaster with the iPhone's, that arguably makes it analogous.
3d46ca No.15067133
>>15000607
I've been thinking a little more about this and something really disturbed me. The anime wasn't confirmed to be part of the games' canon until some easter eggs in ORAS. Steven mentions that he once battled a character from one of the special Mega episodes, and that character has in turn battled Ash before. Here's where things get weird. If Ash is canon, where does he fit in the timelines? Have Ash and Co. somehow warped into the bearenstainesque mega universe from the original? Or are there multiple Ashes? This is really freaking me out.
69aef2 No.15069841
>>15067133
Just because a character from the games appears in the anime doesn't mean a character from the anime is gonna appear in the games.
Unless it's Yellow version or some bonus thing like those hat Pikachus.
I'd treat the anime as its own timeline, far removed from the main ones, so as to not have to think about it any longer.
dd2790 No.15069890
>>15064239
More like the holocauster.
69aef2 No.15069967
>>15069890
Or the iPhondomor.
b9adac No.15070362
>>15000607
>Was the original universe more polluted or something?
Bro it's a glitch in a childrens RPG. Not some super deep piece of lore.
b5c7af No.15071432
>>15041058
>>15000607
How does the Anime fit into that? The various mangas? Third versions? Just the the pair of versions? The fact that every players game has different party comopsition, main character names, and in several cases the sex of the main character? Pokemon has a lot more drastically different changes, if you think about it. The Kalos war is the least important thing in the timeline. Remember the fact that 1500 years before the main games, written language was invented around the time of the Unown? And 1500 years before that there was the Kalos war with a life force powered super weapon? The Pokemon timeline is retarded. I've still come up with a basis for a universal stream designation system, but I admit I heavily based it off the system used by TransTech/professional Transformers fans.
Also, a problem with the chart, Looker shows up in Black and White, maybe B2W2 I forget it's been a while.
e04ffb No.15075227
>>15071432
I recall in the city with the 8th Gym in Black/White, there's a guy with some sort of dimension machine or something and basically the point is the other version is another dimension. Also, since you interact with other players, and other players are all playing the same story as you, they must all be in alternate dimensions as well. Every game, as in every time you start a new game, exists in its own dimension, where events vaguely like, but not exactly like, chronologically previous games in the series have happened. Needless to say, if every game is its own dimension, the anime and mangas are as well.
b5c7af No.15075269
>>15075227
Exactly. Basically we can classify games as clusters of similar timelines, while most other forms of media usually use a different type of timescale.
69aef2 No.15076360
>>15071432
Looker's not in B2W2 because he's busy doing shit in XY. Can't speak for BW; stopped playing 'cause I couldn't get past the last gym.
As for the anime, manga, and anything outside the games (with the exception of Origins, maybe Generations, and some spinoffs like the Colosseum games and the Ranger trilogy), I don't consider them part of the main series canon. i.e. they don't count
The only reason I exempt Origins is because, with a few exceptions, it's more or less a faithful adaptation of FireRed/LeafGreen, with a Mega Stone thrown in, the latter detail making it consistent with the timeline established by XY.
Ultimately, who and what is canon is dependent on what the later games definitively acknowledge in their story.
Usually, it's safe to assume the third version of a given gen's the "main" one, as it tends to have the most story content, but there are exceptions:
In Gen 1, Yellow is not the third version - Blue is.
This seems to be acknowledged in the Spaceworld beta. The old player appears to be the 7th gym leader and is called Blue. His house is located where the rival's was.
However, in Gen 2, the old player and rival are called Red and Blue/Green.
Red's the first default player name in Red version, and later portrayals of Red usually show him with a Charizard, ergo Gen 2 appears to follow Red version. This extends to Gen 3 with FireRed.
Anyway, this is getting convoluted and I'm not into (((inclusivity))) for the sake of it, even if it's timelines instead of (((the usual suspects))). For the sake of brevity and keeping it simple, it's better to just stick to the main series and keep extra stuff to a minimum.
812203 No.15076445
>>15017306
If that person is really German that should be a man cosplaying as a woman.
b5c7af No.15076468
>>15076360
In your attempt to make a sensible timeline out of the "main" games, you ended up excluding several of them and make several different timelines anyway. At that point it's easier to consider everything as being relevant. And if you can use Spaceworld Gen 2 for evidence, I'd like to point out that in USUM's Text File : 63 one of the names the game stores is Ash. It could be a leftover from SM's Ash Greninja event, which is a whole other level of fuckery. Are Demos canonical? How about the GameCube games? On the topic of Ash Greninja, does that tie into the anime? It does more than the cap Pikachu, but less than, say, Yellow does. Even when you try to narrow it down, there's no good answer to any of this shit. Either everything is canonical in it's own universe, or nothing is canonical because it barely fits together.
ee6b40 No.15076497
>>15018874
Oldie, but goodie
ac167e No.15076962
>>15076468
Look, Mr. Inclusivity, my point with bringing up Spaceworld was it appeared to treat Blue version as the "main" portrayal of Gen 1, instead of Red, as the final build does.
Spaceworld's not canon. None of the demos are.
There's not a single instance in the stories of XY, SuMo, or USUM where Ash Greninja comes into play. It's just a bonus tie-in you can transfer. Event Pokémon you gotta download, especially ones based on the anime, don't count.
As I said in my last point, I think the Colosseum games are canon, but I dunno where to place them on the timeline.
And speaking of timelines, there have to be parallel timelines to account for the following:
1) The stark difference in technology between Gen 1~3 and Gen 4 onward.
Gens 1 and 2 were fairly grounded. Most of it looked somewhat contemporary, besides obvious stuff like Poké Balls and teleporters.
Gen 3 kinda toed the line, but plausibility was completely thrown out the window with Gen 4.
2) Episode Delta establishes the world of RSE and ORAS as distinctly parallel timelines, the former being one where Mega Evolution isn't possible, because the war in Kalos never occurred.
3) Anabel. The instance you see in Gen 7 is a Faller from the world of RSE. It may or may not have been destroyed by the Ultra Beasts.
4) Team Rainbow Rocket. Maxie and Archie appear as they did in RSE, established as separate characters from what you see in ORAS. Giovanni may or may not be an instance from Gen 1.
What I'm trying to get at here's that there is a multiverse established in the games, but it's nowhere near as expansive as you're trying to make it.
55b865 No.15077033
>>15076962
>needing multiple timelines to explain technology advancing over years
Pokémon lore is stupid.
e04ffb No.15077057
>>15076360
Gen 2 has Red with Pikachu as his highest level pokemon, and all three of the other starters. Yellow is the canon version. The final version of a gen is the canon version.
>>15076962
>1) The stark difference in technology between Gen 1~3 and Gen 4 onward.
This is stupid. Gen 3 is clearly a new timeline/universe, since it directly contradicts stuff from Gen I and II, like Pokemon Eggs always being around, instead of only discovered by Oak three years after the fall of Rocket. Gen IV then directly follows from III.
Also, Gen I already had teleporters and Bill turning himself into The Fly and turning biological creatures into data and storing them in a computer.
I never played 6 and 7 so I'm not commenting there, but 1 and 2 are clearly a different timeline, and 3-5 are definitely the same, and include the remakes of 1 and 2 (the remakes of 1 being in Gen 3 and the remakes of 2 being in Gen 4).
b5c7af No.15077059
>>15076962
>1) The stark difference in technology between Gen 1~3 and Gen 4 onward.
I think you're conflating the real world decisions with actual canonical intent The reason PCs looked like crap in Gen 1-3 is because nobody thought technology would advance as quickly as it did. By the time Emerald came out the in game PCs looked old. So they changed the aesthetic to be more sci-fi, which is a lot more in line with shit like Pokeballs and storing Pokemon as data.
>2) Episode Delta establishes the world of RSE and ORAS as distinctly parallel timelines, the former being one where Mega Evolution isn't possible, because the war in Kalos never occurred.
The only implication of this is Zinnia saying some retarded shit with no basis in actual fact. If I recall, the war in Kalos is never specifically brought up to not happen in said timeline. As a matter of fact, the reason Mega Stones exist in ORAS is because of some weird rock that has apparently been underground for a long ass time, or is a meteor that gets refined into a mega stone for Fug.
>3) Anabel. The instance you see in Gen 7 is a Faller from the world of RSE. It may or may not have been destroyed by the Ultra Beasts.
This is the closest thing you have to an accurate truth of the matter. That having been said she could be from Ruby or Sapphire since she didn't show up at all in those games, or even from some other unseen timeline.
>4) Team Rainbow Rocket. Maxie and Archie appear as they did in RSE, established as separate characters from what you see in ORAS. Giovanni may or may not be an instance from Gen 1.
They also won in their timelines, so you need to add several more "villains win" timelines, since pretty much all of them are mutually exclusive. You're also ignoring all the canonical alternate universes through the Ultra Wormholes in USUM. Or are those not canonical either?
3d46ca No.15077092
>>15069841
seems like you don't understand, Steven in ORAS mentions a character and scene from an Anime special
that character has battled Ash in the anime, so there's an indirect link between the anime and the games
Steven-Alan-Ash
Alan is not from the games, he's only in the anime, but Steven IN THE GAMES talks about him
I'm not saying Ash is going to be in the games, only that he is possibly part of their canon, and that the Ash from the the Gen 5 and earlier anime is either a different person in a different world, or that Ash somehow shifted into an alternate universe. Weird Stuff
e04ffb No.15077102
>>15077092
Characters in the games talk about Professor Oak Professor Oak is in the anime. Anime is canon to games.
6dd5c8 No.15077108
3d46ca No.15077117
>>15077102
Alan is not from the games
get it through your thick skull
e04ffb No.15077133
Yeah but the point is that some things can be in both, and one thing being canon from another story doesn't mean the whole story is. It can be more fun that way, but when blatant contradictions happen, then obviously you can't just assume those are canon.
Look up the Tommy Westphall universe. It's fun to think everything is canon, but there's a point where it's clearly not intended. Now sometimes when you're dealing with a very autistic fanbase that eventually takes over the asylum, the creators can embrace this and try to start justifying it, which is what happened with comic books (the whole concept of a multiverse exists to explain to neckbeards who were kids in the '40s but still reading comics in the '60s why there was a new Flash and an old Flash who both lived in the same universe as Superman, even though old Flash blatantly can't happen in the same universe as new Flash), but I don't think Pokemon is quite there yet.
0463f4 No.15077143
>>15077117
he could have a game counterpart.
b5c7af No.15077144
>>15077117
Well apparently he is if Steven mentions him. A version of Alan does not necessitate a version of Ash, necessarily.
>>15077133
Pokemon has begun to establish alternate universes as something really obvious instead of just something that's heavily implied, so I don't think we'll have to worry about that sort of thing unless we get a game about traveling between universes. Which would be a cool idea for a fangame, jumping between Gen 1 mechanics, Spaceworld Gen 2, more modern games, and who knows what else.
e04ffb No.15077152
>>15077144
Spaceworld Gen 2 will never be referenced officially. As far as the creators are concerned, it's just an unfinished version of a game that eventually came out. It's not an alternate piece of media. It's the equivalent of having the characters from Star Wars go to an alternate universe where the special effects aren't finished yet.
b5c7af No.15077166
>>15077152
That's why I said fangame. Also, fun fact that is one of the very few facts I know about Star Wars because I don't know anything but parts of the first movie. Apparently when George Lucas screened the first cut of the movie (as a matter of fact with some special effects missing), everybody thought it was fucking awful and they basically had to re-cut a lot of it. For example, during the part where the droids escape that ship, there were scenes of Luke just doing random shit in between that messed up the flow.
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6f192c No.15091227