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>>14961934

And that's not all:

Extra Carnage – Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise features everything available in the original Japanese version, plus extra carnage for the localized version! For the first time, witness the full effects of Kenshiro’s brutal Hokuto Shinken on the lowlifes and thugs of the post-apocalyptic wastes.

Dual audio, extra carnage and a 2018 release. These cheeky bastards have been working on this for quite a while. It's nothing special but probably the best thing to come out of this E3 for me.

https://gematsu.com/2018/06/fist-of-the-north-star-lost-paradise-coming-west-on-october-2

FIST OF THE NORTH FUCKING STAR THO

>>14962006

>>14962016

VERY NICE!

>>14962016

>>14962006

Well now I'm excited.

They're gonna show Lost Paradise on the twitch stream in a few minutes if anyone cares.

>>14964303

https://www.twitch.tv/twitch

They already showed a bit of Kiwami 2.

Yakuza 0 and Kiwami coming to PC.

>>14969737

Confirmed. I don't even need a PS4 anymore.

>>14969754

* As long as it doesn't have Denuvo

>>14969737

I want the remasters of 3, 4, 5 too.

>>14969764

Apparently it does >>14969760

https://store.steampowered.com/app/638970/Yakuza_0/

Hell has frozen over

>>14969803

What a fucking timeline

>>14969795

Then sadly it is a pirate. Damn it SEGA. It's almost like you don't want people to support you on PC.

>>14969795

They shot themselves in the foot. Won't be happy when they turn around and say they won't be porting any more because they didn't sell well.

>>14969803

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

>Denuvo

Which chinpira thought that was a good idea?

>>14969937

>They shot themselves in the foot

I don't know what strange alternate reality you inhabit where the vast majority of people actually care if a game has DRM or not. Let me tell you, most normalfags don't even have any idea what DRM is, let alone give a fuck if a game is saddled with it.

>>14969937

This.

> HEY GUYS THAT GAME YOU WERE BEGGING FOR IS HERE!

> It has shitty DRM on it so it is an automatic no buy.

> I'm sorry guys. It just didn't sell. I guess people don't like the game on PC.

>>14970000

Wasted quads. This is SEGA. Their titles are niche and plenty of their playerbase isn't going to want to touch this shit with Denuvo. They hurt themselves big time.

>>14970055

It will sell.

>>14970000

I imagine the people that would play Yakuza aren't exactly normalfags. It's a pretty niche series that has the fans translating the games when sega refuses to bring them west. Not exactly your typical consumer.

>>14970091

>It's a pretty niche series that has the fans translating the games when sega refuses to bring them west.

Only translation projects I'm aware of are the one for the PSP game that has been moribund for years and an attempt to unfuck Yakuza 3, which is likely to be abandoned as well with the rerelease of 3.

>Not exactly your typical consumer.

SEGA is obviously betting on "niche console game getting ported to PC" to get more money, just like they did with Valkyria (another niche title that goes as a cult hit) and they sold a shitload of copies of that game.

>>14970180

5 and 0 got translated before the western ports came out. I've seen a few playthroughs on youtube where someone translates it as they play it. Did Valkyria have denuvo?

>>14970265

>Did Valkyria have denuvo?

No, but I think you seriously overestimate the general moral fortitude of the average weeb. Remember, these are the same retards that have kept NISA in business for more than a decade.d

>>14970323

If you say this then you underestimate the autims of the average SEGA fan.

>>14970323

I'm more so just worried that their decision to put denuvo in will lead them to be unhappy with sales figures and pull the plug on porting the rest to PC. I'm not expecting every Yakuza player to boycott the game but I think it's evident that there's a healthy amount of autism in the fanbase. I can only hope for the best but I don't expect it.

>>14969803

>SEGA could have get some shekels but they choose to go full-jew instead, thus drastically decreasing their profits from making a port

Fucking wew.

>>14969803

>only 20 bux

Good to see sega following at least one good rule of gaming.

>>14969803

>Denuvo

Fucking nuke sega europe already. They're the cancerous fucks that convinced sega to adopt this

>>14962016

I told you they'd do this.

>>14970776

>Add to Cart

>Not item already owned

>>14971208

Every heavy metal album ever.

>>14962016

lulz. That censorship totally reminds me of the SNES Mortal Kombat or something like that. Japan went backwards.

>>14969737

Holy fucking shit. For cheap too. That's it, I'm playing it all over again.

>Unlocks in august

>Two weeks away from my birthday

>Also the month where I traditionally spend the month with my folks and thus have only my notebook laptop on hand

MENDOKUSAI

I send a tweet to @sega_official, the Japanese twitter, that I am not buying a Denuvo game Did it in Japanese. I suggest you do the same.

>>14970001

It's already like number 4 on steam's top sellers list so that definitely not going to happen.

>>14977736

There's some dude from the Eastern Finnish Isles who already does mods for the PS3 and 4 games, I think even with Yiduvo it's gonna be possible.

>>14978824

At least comparisons to Sleeping Dogs have been around for a while. I don't recall people generally trying to compare Sleeping Dogs or GTA to Yakuza like they're competing with each other. Most people also learn quickly that Sleeping Dogs is a GTA clone with Arkham combat while Yakuza is a spiritual successor to Shenmue.

>>14977736

denuvo ruined all the mods we could have had for shadow warrior, and bully and dead rising 2. i mean there's barely any mods for total wawa 2

In light of the PC ports I think I'm going to start playing this series. I can emulate 1 and 2 just fine and I can get 3 and 4 for a reasonable price. Do I miss much if I don't play 5?

>>14983348

They're going to remaster 3 to 5. A few weeks back an anon posited this was intended to get the entire series to the PC audience and another adamantly stated this would never happen. Now here we are. We're looking at the entire mainline series eventually finding its way to PC.

I guess you can argue they can stop if 0 and Kiwami sell terrible, but the greater plan of getting 3-5 off PS3 and "reaching new audiences" (their own words) clearly involved PC from the start. They're remastering the games anyway, the PC port costs should be minimal. In conclusion, unless something goes terribly wrong (like Arkham Knight levels of wrong) with Yakuza 0, I think the entire mainline is set to happen on PC.

>>14983348

Depends. 5 had the most content and the gameplay was pretty tight, the tightest until 0 arrived and just blew 5 right out the water, but the story is as dumb as the other PS3 Yakuzas and the framerate is also the most unstable out of all of them in my experience. Also Haruka's section is crap since the singing concert part is just a glorified version of the karaoke minigame and the dance battles are way too simplistic and easy.

The only new character which I really liked in 5 was Koichi, who ends up being the most likable asshole in the entire series imo.

>>14983491

>>14983475

Okay, thanks. I'll wait and see if they're going to put 3 to 5 on PC then. In the meantime, is playing 1, 2 and then 0 and Kiwami like in the OP a reasonable alternative?

>>14983569

Pretty much. There are a lot of references to the earlier games in 0, but most of them are references to the first two games and the fourth game (namely a character who is connected to Majima), since if you look at it chronologically, a lot of the characters who are important in 0 either are never seen again afterwards or die in Yakuza or Yakuza 2. There is one who dies in the third game, but he doesn't really have that much personality throughout all of his appearances. There is just one substory where you need knowledge about all the 5 games before 0 to be able to pass it. You'll know it when you see it, but you shouldn't panic because you'll have plenty of time to look up how to solve it if you really want to get the best possible outcome.

>>14983569

Yes. 1 and 2 are the start of the Yakuza franchise and are plenty entertaining by themselves, so definitely emulate them. Yakuza 0 is largely stand alone, but has some references to 1 and 2. Then Kiwami is full-on 0 references. I agree in saying 1, 2, 0, Kiwami is the best way to get into Yakuza.

I've just finished Kiwami and now i'm torn on what to play next. I want to play Kiwami 2 but I don't want to wait another 2 and a half months. I could just play Yakuza 2 but then I wouldn't want to play Kiwami 2 when it gets released. And I could also play Yakuza 6, but then i'd be skipping past loads of story. What a dilemma..

>>14988313

>I could just play Yakuza 2 but then I wouldn't want to play Kiwami 2 when it gets released.

Why?

Is there that much sense to start from the PS2 games if the gameplay is not better, the story's the same and there's less content?

>>14989997

The point is to see how the series evolved. But if you don't care about that, then I guess 0 and the kiwamis is all you have to consider.

Here i was hoping to finally try out this series but then denuvo'd

oh well

I'll just buy Kiwami on steam when it release.

>>14989997

Yes, plenty. A considerable amount of the content that the Kiwami games add is to the detriment of both games. Kiwami adds Majima Everywhere which completely fucks the pacing of the story and turns a character fairly important to the series' various plots into a meme, as well as locking about a quarter of your moveset behind RNG based encounters. And I say this as someone who enjoyed the system, and Kiwami itself, overall.

Kiwami 2 introduces a ton of heat actions which are either made completely redundant by parts of Kiryu's Dragon Engine moveset which fulfil the same purpose or aren't designed with the Dragon Engine in mind, since a number of them let you interrupt bosses' combos. It also reintroduces a basically unchanged cabaret minigame from 0 (which, if you liked, you can just play 0 for the same experience instead) and has the worst OST in the series by a large margin, not just in terms of the tracks themselves but also in terms of how terribly ill fitting they are in some of 2's most iconic scenes. Multi-coloured health bars also return in Kiwami 2 after being left out in 6 but make enemies feel weaker rather than stronger as a result of how retardedly high Kiryu's damage output is. Majima gets his own ~40 minute "campaign" but it only has 2 heat actions, both lifted from 0, and 2 bosses, both lifted from standard enemies in Ishin.

Apart from all that, both Kiwamis' cutscenes look distractingly odd at times because they use PS2 animations on PS4 models. The brand new cutscenes that they add just exacerbate this issue, since high quality PS4 animations make the janky PS2 ones stick out all the more.

Unless you've played 0 and 6 and are absolutely dying for some pretty marginal improvements to their respective combat systems, play the original PS2 games first. It's highly debatable whether the Kiwamis' combat systems are even better than the PS2 games' (or 0 and 6's) in the first place, since for the most part you only fight recycled boss movesets from the previous games which neither combat system was designed with in mind.

>>14990227

>since for the most part you only fight recycled boss movesets from the previous games which neither combat system was designed with in mind.

Not really true for Kiwami 1 since the core way the combat system worked was more or less the same through all the games until the Dragon engine really shook things around. Still, some of the choices were really baffling, I bet my left nutsack that they chose Baba's moveset for Hayashi just because they both have this power stance with hands on the sides as their standard stance and I bet my right nutsack that they chose Shakedown's moveset for Shimano purely because both of them have a similar looking charge move (not that you'd know since Shimano is so much of a joke in the original that people often don't even know that he even had any moves).

When it comes to Kiwami 2, it is completely true and you can see how much harder fighting against a recycled moveset from before 6 is compared to an original moveset or a recycled moveset from 6, since 6 introduced a sort of blockstun state (dunno how to call it) where in Kiryu's case if his move gets blocked, the next move in the combo will come out much slower, the same happens for the enemies which use an original moveset along with some strings being cut short if you block a move within the string. That's why the NJPW guys, Saigoh and Sodachi were much harder than pretty much any of the story bosses. The reason for that is that any enemy with a moveset from pre-6 basically say "fuck that" to those new rules and their moves come out as fast as they used to, regardless of whether they were blocked or not. Even though Kiryu doesn't feel nearly as wooden in K2 as he did in 6, it's still a pain to fight against sub-bosses who have fast movesets that are from pre-6.

>>14990227

>Kiwamis' cutscenes look distractingly odd at times because they use PS2 animations on PS4 models. The brand new cutscenes that they add just exacerbate this issue, since high quality PS4 animations make the janky PS2 ones stick out all the more

The animations seemed really off in the PS4 games, now I see why.

>>14990009

Thanks for the explanations, anons. I will add the old Yakuza games to my PS2 marathon list.

>>14990019

yea im sure denuvo is the deal breaker and you weren't just going to complain about how shitty of a port it is and pirate it based on that instead

>>14990227

>Yakuza Kiwami 2 takes the 0 cabaret club minigame

Did they keep the decoration management from the original? I mean, the original was pretty token and heh, and there's no way I can be mad 0's cabaret makes a return, but if they at least bring that aspect I'll call it best of both worlds.

>>14990227

The combat is still much better in Kiwami though because you can actually lock-on to enemies properly. Kiryu's dragon style has been fine-tuned to perfection (aside from a few great heat moves that were added in later games) and i've never had as much fun with a combat system, it's just a HUGE fucking shame you only get use of this style right at the end of the game after you've fought Majima 50 times as it's completely fucking useless without full upgrades. So you miss out on actually being able to enjoy it.

I do like most of what they did with the story, it was in serious need of fleshing out as you don't give a shit about any of the characters in Yakuza 1, but what they did with Majima doesn't fit in with the story at all. He was supposed to be a character to be feared, not turned into a joke that far outstayed its welcome.

If Kiwami 2 is as bad as you say I think i'll just play Yakuza 2.

>>14994764

Play Yakuza 2 by all means, I'm of the school of thinking that you don't outright need to play the originals, but the new ones will be that much more enjoyable if you do. Y2's a fun ride, just expect a contrived as fuck story and a pretty good waifu for Kiryu plot that was completely trashed by later titles. If I had to pick one thing I would fucking hate Yakuza for, it's cucking Kaoru.

>>14983054

the joke is people blame denuvo when it has nothing to do with restricting modding and there's too many games without denuvo to count that can't be easily modded

>>14996543

Dude, denuvo is all about checking the executable is not tampered with. There is no worse poison to modding than that.

>>14997087

That's the main reason why there were no mods for Sonic Mania, because the damn game wasn't moddable.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/638970/discussions/0/3051633726574946259/

And of course the denuvocucks show up going "ur a pirate and im guna show your posts lololo"

>>14997228

I wish the thread could be about the games, but this is entirely on Sega, and anons are entirely right to be pissed. What a shame.

Why is there no undub for Yakuza 1?

>>14978824

This. The place is a cesspool.

>>14997281

>He doesn't want "Step the fuck up, it's time to die" and "Bring that shit, Kazuma"

There is an undub for Yakuza 1. It's called Yakuza Kiwami.

>>14997336

I haven't actually played Yakuza before. Is the dub so bad it's good tier?

>>14997336

Don't forget KILL THIS ARROGANT MOT HER FUCK HER! and KILL THIS… DUMB MOTHERFUCKER!

>>14997336

Kiwami isn't the same game as 1

>>14997358

The dub is largely a cringe fest, and it can't decide between respecting the original script and localizing shit. Like, it famously decided to call Shintaro Kazama Shintaro Fuma because it sounded too close to Kazuma.Also, they chose to call the florist Kage. But in the same time they respected the honorifics to a T. Yakuza are supposed to call their family heads oyabun. They don't in the original, but they do in the dub. It's weird as fuck.

>>14997939

Wanna know what's even worse? In 4 if you're Saejima or Akiyama it becomes painfully obvious how much of a detriment not having a grab counter is when you play through the game on EX-Hard and fight at least one enemy who's a grappler and one or more enemies who have a quick knockdown move that they spam all the time, so whenever he'd grab you, the other guy would knock you down, as soon as you got up, the guy would grab you before you even had a chance to hit evade, then the other would knock you down, rinse and repeat. I game over'd 3 times in the prison escape section as Saejima because in one part I would always get stunlocked by that same combination of enemies.

This attention to detail, my god, how can this go unnoticed?

>mfw doing Goromi in Kiwami

It really is full memejima, but I can't imagine being so cynical you can't have a blast with it.

>>15013488

Kill yourself

ps3 emulator when, i have the rig, let me play in correct order

Wanna see some cancer? Look at all these faggots who like shitty consumer practices:

https: //steamcommunity.com/app/638970/discussions/0/?newdiscussion=1

>>15013493

Only if we kill ourselves together.

>>15013496

RPCS3 exists, but the yakuza games are not currently playable. The compatibility check dates are getting a bit old though, so you might want to find an iso and try anyway.

>>15013504

>>15013506

>Wanna see some cancer

Everytime you post

>>15013509

>Yakuza games don't work

Some do, but most don't

Sega is remastering 3-5 so emulation won't be needed for those Yakuza games unless they fuck up very hard.

>>15013525

I don't know how they would even fuck up except if they do dumb shit like cut the content and/or if they actually fuck up on the one promise they made and that is stable framerate because God knows the PS3 Yakuza games had dodgy framerate.

>>15013561

Kinda doubt it since both Hokuto ga Gotoku and Kiwami 2 are pretty good. Still, as you said stranger things have happened.

>>14978824

>>14978750

I don't even know why I went to see what they were saying. They're fucking speds.

>>15013652

Literally the most retarded post I've seen today.

>>15013652

>>15013660

It's literally satire.

>>15013652

Jesus fucking Christ.

>>15013652

Do you niggers really allow yourself to fall for such shit bait just because it's posted on steam forums?

>>15013739

Imagine expecting so much more from someone, only to walk in for the thirtieth time to see that someone covered in shit in the middle of your kitchen. They have an excuse for the first time, sure, but it almost always falls back to "It was just a goof, c'mon, don't be a fun-hating sourpuss" these days.

It's not even disappointing to see it anymore. It's just part of the grind that comes with a game getting released on Steam.

How's the HD collection for PS3? Was anything censored/removed or is it good?

I want to play the first game and get into Yakuza, but I'll never have enough CPU to properly emulate PS2 games.

>>15013652

>they literally remove denuvo year or so after release or if servers go off

Just like how everyone removed that CDRom or whatever it was called DRM that had strong ties with denuvo?

>>15013822

You mean the HD versions of Yakuza 1 and 2? They're pretty much just straight ports, I only noticed Y1HD adding an environmental heat move when you're at the batting cages. I only hope you know nip though because the HD versions of 1 and 2 never went outside of Japan.

>>15013652

>>15013660

>>15013733

>>15013755

You guys do know that many of the retards posting there are nothing more but cuckchanners trying to be ebin trolles right?

>>15013881

Do not sexualize Haruka

Haruka is pure

>>15013895

I'm afraid any mention of a game coming to PC seriously undermines the discussion on it. Such a shame, I've been enjoying Yakuza 0 a ton lately and now there's this baggage associated with it.

At the very least I'm excited for Hokuto ga Gotokou, I just wish our release could have had a pun in its name.

>>15013895

Defending Denuvo, even in jest, is stupid. People who do it, even in jest, are stupid.

>>15013879

> I only hope you know nip though because the HD versions of 1 and 2 never went outside of Japan.

Fuck me, I thought it was in english. I'm learning nip, but I still can't into my copy of Akira's Trip.

Is there any PS3 version of the first or am I fucked here?

>>15013921

quit taking bait like a retard and talk about that in another thread, not here. You have a dedicated thread, and here you'll only generate ire and bring yourself failure to your "cause", much like how Sonic Mania still has denuvo.

>>15013922

You can run the originals on a CFW PS3 quite easily. There's even an undub for the first unless you really want to hear "Kill this arrogant motherfucker!"

>>15013940

My PS3 is unpatched and I like buying physical copies of games.

The undub sounds nice though. Original language + subtitles is usually way better than dubs.

>>15013954

>My PS3 is unpatched and I like buying physical copies of games.

well you should patch it faggot

it offers good stuff and even MGS4 multiplayer

>>15013954

I'm with you on physical copies to an extent, the PS3 has a lot of great games I wish I could have gotten at the time - but the convenience of CFW for so many of these games and features is very nice. The undub helps keep things very consistent with the rest of the games.

>>15013963

MGS4 multiplayer should be the last reason one would get a CFW

>>15013963

>>15013971

Still, I don't like the idea of patching my only console, specially with all the shit I could lose since I'm on the latest update.

I was planning on beating the few remaining games I have then buying a NogameS4 and jailbreaking my PS3. I guess I'll do that then get the undub, since I hate bad dubs to the point where I just give up on playing the game.

>>15013998

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but iirc a few months ago a CFW was released that works on even the most recent PS3 update, so even superslims can now get a CFW.

>>15014017

I've read it's not quite full CFW but I believe you can do most things a standard CFW can do, including PS3, PS2, PSN back ups without much issue. I don't know where the limitations are, and it may be more like PSP CFW on 6.60/.61 where you're required to do a quick reflash on each boot.

>>15013963

>MGS4 multiplayer

Did MGS4 Online not even have dedicated servers? If so, why would you wanna play that lag fest?

>>15013881

idols are sluts

>>14962006

Damn son, the onyl thing that really bothered me about the jap version was how there was zero blood or gore. This really makes it look ten times better.

"DAMN THAT HURTS"

you pc cucks are some of the most entitled faggots i've ever seen, jesus christ

you beg for YEARS for yakuza to come to your shitty platforms that is filled with terible simulator games, early access fuckery and pixel shit indy games.

it finally does because us cosole gods have been picking up the slack buying these games full price and paying for limited edition versions to get these games localised becasue we love the franchise so much.

then if just ONE thing is not to your liking i guess its time to pirate.

holy shit i hope sega come to their senses and never port anything to your shitty platform ever again

>>15015194

Here's your (You)

>>15015219

you could have at least posted the kizuna ai webm

>>15015239

why would he post cancer AI?

Should I download a complete save and start on Hard for Yakuza 2?

>>15016418

>download save from gamefaqs

>difficulty: easy

>>15014578

The bodies look like they stay on the ground longer too.

>>14969803

Nice. Hope we get the Kenshiro game too. Imagine the mods… for Lyn.

STEP THE FUCK UP, IT'S TIME TO DIE

Why does Kiwami get so much hate? People say its unfair but when I went through the game it was super easy are these people just newfags who joined with 0 and spammed Beast and square?

>>15036341

I picked hard from the outset since I played 0 before but I'm just getting my ass kicked with less opportunities to do cool heat actions all around. I didn't check normal difficulty, but it just might be Kiwami's combat is designed to be less fun than 0's.

>>15036375

Are you swapping between styles?

>>15036341

The only hard part which is complete BULLSHIT is beating that car shootout part on Legend. You basically have to learn a pattern to be able to beat it and even then you can just lose if you don't have enough health left to kill the chink driving the truck because you're basically guaranteed to take at least one hit before he dies.

>>15036385

Of course I am. But the number of interactable objects is reduced from 0 so beast is largely useless, and rush is so much improved it's the go-to answer.

>>15019911

innocence

>>15036399

I thought the object manipulating part of beast was shit even back in 0, but beast had stupid good damage in 0, like the light, light, heavy clothesline did more damage than it needed to do and the bearhug shaved off a whole bar of health no matter who you fought against.

>>15036422

I never actually really used that. When fighting in this series, I'm looking for heat actions before efficiency. Maybe it's part of why 6's combat feels so unsatisfying.

Also, I kinda wish I could rip my shirt off the Yakuza way.

>>15039200

I wouldn't say I'm the complete opposite because I like my heat moves like pretty much everyone who played and liked at least one Yakuza game, but I'm more into efficiency and understanding the system in-depth and I was still disappointed with 6. Groups of randos are consistently harder than bosses, but even then the dropkick is so OP against groups it's laughable, it's basically like playing bowling. Combat was also slow and wooden as fuck even when you completely upgraded your shit, I can say that Kiwami 2 is thankfully much snappier and adds much needed improvements.

Anyway, onto my main point, locking most heat moves behind the autistic dragon rage heat state was dumb and the activation conditions were as bog-standard as "evade" or "complete your standard combo" which lead to the heat moves looking pretty disappointing, not to mention the distinct lack of a heat move while your opponent is down.

>>15045040

Yes, locking heat actions behind the reee mode was just fucking dumb, especially since it's good for basically one heat and then fuck off back to the grind. I would have been okay with it if it only unlocked the normal combo heat actions, and maybe a few that corresponded to Climax in other titles. 80% of actions behind reee mode is completely unfun.

Glad to know they did better with it in Kiwami 2, I'm actually really looking forward to a game that utilizes the engine to its potential. I'm less looking forward to hearing JINGON a million fucking times again, but what can you do.

>>15045130

Yeah, not only is the combat itself faster, but there's way more heat actions, along with some classic ones coming back like the Komaki flowing counter heat moves and of course weapon heat moves, because they're thankfully coming back. Most of the new heat moves are available in standard mode, only the one I call "The Essence of Skullfucking" requires autistic rage mode. It's the one from 0 and Kiwami where Kiryu punches his opponent, then puts his head as if it was in a vise between his fists and then drops the poor fucker right onto his knee. THAT'S the kind of heat move that you should lock behind autistic rage mode. You can also charge more moves, if you charge light punch you get the attacks you had from beast style in 0, the charged heavy attack is changed to a drop kick and if you do a charged attack while running you get a double kick into a jumping axe kick. I have a lot of problems with the game otherwise, but the only really big problem combat-wise is what these 2 anons described >>14990227 >>14990381

That's why minibosses in long story battles or sidestories or side content that you fight often end up being harder than bosses that got new movesets, from which there's only a few. I remember Ryuji getting a new moveset and Shindo got a new one too which is way worse than his moveset in the original.

Also, Majima's campaign is pretty shit and the combat is meh too, you only get 2 heat actions and his mad dog style, you can't upgrade his abilities or anything like that and his two boss fights are just 2 faggots with a gun, one of which is Dio Brando's uncle who works at Nintendo.

I just finished Yakuza 0 as my first Yakuza game. Kind of went crazy out of order but someone here recommended it and I really enjoyed the shit out of it. It was between that and Kiwami because I don't have a PS3. Should I play Kiwami next? Which game has the best arcade games?

>>15046708

>Should I play Kiwami next?

90% of the content Kiwami added from the original is 0 references, so yes. It's literally designed to be played after 0.

>>15047207

In Kiwami 2 Majima and Makoto meet again. I don't know nip so I can only guess what happened, but this is what I know 100% - Majima leaves the Tojo clan due to Terada's poor management of the clan which is actually a 5D interdimensional mahjong move by Terada, you'd know that if you played 2 and Majima then goes to Sotenbori. The rest is a spoiler for everything new that happens in Kiwami 2 so you can either read up or wait in order to experience it firsthand in August. He goes to a massage parlor and as he's lying on the chair Makoto suddenly shows up. Majima recognizes her when he glances to his side as she massages his arm and sees the watch. She realizes this and then probably goes on a talk where she reminisces about the man who saved her life 18 years prior and allowed her to live a happy life with a family of her own right now. Majima shows that he's glad that Makoto leads a happy life now because he's smiling throughout her whole speech. When Majima's leaving she gives him a business card and then I don't really know what happens, Majima just shakes his head and negates something, she probably asked him if they've ever met before or something like that. Majima then gives a gift to one of her coworkers and tells her to give it to Makoto. In the end she goes on a plane ride with her husband to somewhere and she opens the box and sees that the gift are the watch straps in the original lightbrown color, as she had to replace her watch's ribbons with blue ones, and realizes that the customer that noticed her watch was actually the mysterious yakuza who saved her life.

Also, if you hate gut punches, just wait until you get to the epilogue of 6.

>>15049322

So she could remember Oda's voice basically at first earshot, but completely forgot Majima's? Quit the plot contrivances and just make them hug, holy shit are they no fun faggots when it comes to the characters' waifus.

>>15050833

Truly, all of the main characters for some reason have to get blueballed to oblivion. Remember Kaoru? I distinctly remember at the very beginning of 3 her and Kiryu promise each other that they'll meet again once she receives new training and once Kiryu gets used to the whole orphanage business. You can already guess how that ended up. What's more I don't think Kaoru is even brought up once after the very beginning of 3.

>>15050833

>>15050978

They can't cuck the fujoshi audience.

>>15051191

Fictional characters are more important than fujoshi.

With the surge of samurai games and the popularity of Yakuza, do you think Ishin might get noticed by Sega America senpai?

>>15008410

It's funny as hell and I like the system but boy oh boy does it take focus away from Nishiki/Kiryu and focuses on Majima/Kiryu instead. And as another anon said, completely fucks the pacing of the story now and has some really weird moments.

Like when Haruka gets kidnapped and you face Majima in the baseball center. He says it's been a long time, but you were just fighting him minutes ago, possibly more than once in the past hour.

>>15050833

I dunno about Kiwami 2 but at the end of 0 Majima takes great care not to let her hear his voice. From the trailer in Kiwami 2 it looked as if he was trying hard not to cry out.

Plus in Kiwami 2 it's around 18 years later, so she could've forgotten.

>>15056492

>It's funny as hell and I like the system but boy oh boy does it take focus away from Nishiki/Kiryu and focuses on Majima/Kiryu instead.

Sure, but Kiwami elaborates on Nishiki enough to still make it an upgrade from the OG in that regard. In terms of screentime, Majima is definitely king, but you also get why your bro turned into an asshole.

>And as another anon said, completely fucks the pacing of the story now and has some really weird moments.

What is this pacing you speak of ? 80% of Yakuza's appeal is running into goofy shit in between scenes of serious drama and spending hours fucking around in between story missions. Sure, Memejima everywhere is a bit overkill in this regard, but let's not pretend pacing is a thing to be preserved in this series.

So I am in the post game of 0. What do I do for top fun?

>>15056492

Do you think Majima changed his appearance and mannerisms so dramatically so there is absolutely no chance of Makoto recognizing him? It would make sense. I only played 0 though so I am clueless.

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/05/yakuza-3-remaster-will-be-censored-in-japan-to-meet-todays-moral-values-says-dev/59692/

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgnn.gamer.com.tw%2F9%2F162919.html&edit-text=&act=url (The source they cite.)

I mean, there it is. The same damn 'judgment standards' rhetoric for retroactively censoring we see in the west. Yakuza is pozzed at the source.

>>15057753

Last I heard it was going to be uncensored in the west though.

>>15057849

If you read the articles, it isn't the west that is censoring it.

>>15057862

I copied and pasted the link and it just brought me to the site's front page. Nothing about Yakuza. But I read they are only censoring any scenes with outdoor smoking and these won't be censored in the western release. I don't have a source I just remember reading it somewhere.

>>15057880

Also they are uncensoring Hokoto No Ken for the western release so it may hold true regardless. I hope so anyway. I just fell in love with these games and would hate to see them go to shit.

>>15036388

That really is the shittiest part of the game because you have to fight a load of goons and a boss beforehand AND YOU CAN'T FUCKING SAVE IN BETWEEN. I really thought if there was one thing they'd fix from 1, it'd be that.

>>15057880

>But I read they are only censoring any scenes with outdoor smoking and these won't be censored in the western release.

It would be pretty ironic if the Western remaster of 3 becomes THE definitive release of 3, considering what a fucking hackjob the original western release of 3 was. Though the article is so vague when it comes to things being censored the only concrete evidence is that Kiryu smoking is omitted on the cover because Japs hate smoking now, despite the fact that the trailer to the remaster clearly shows Kiryu performing the heat move where he spits a fag at a fag's face before decking him. Other things, like tittays, are a-ok, it seems, it's just smoking that is problematic to "modern Japanese sensibilities" now.

>>15058657

What did they do to the original release? They removed titties?

>>15059142

They removed a whole bunch of shit, like the hostess minigame, the tittays in the form of the massage minigame, shogi, mahjong and pachinko. Also missing are about 20 sidestories, some of which are what I call "important" side stories as they continue into other games, kind of like how you meet Fake Kiryu in both 2 and 4 and how Stardust loses its importance in 4 and 5 to the point that there is not even one scene that happens in it anymore, but you still get info about them through sidestories involving Yuya. Same goes for the florist's son who goes from a fuck-up to a respectable and responsible family man by the time you meet him in a sidestory in 4. So you have a sidestory in 4 where a guy recognizes Kiryu from 3, even though that particular sidestory was completely removed from the western release of 3 so you just sit there wondering just what in the fuck is going on inb4 that chinpira shows up from a few threads back and says that those were just, as he called them, "pointless fetch quests". The translation itself is sometimes very shitty, in dialogue and elsewhere. Not only is the good ol' Fuma/Kazama bullshit back, but also the infamous renaming of Morning Glory Orphanage to Sunshine Orphanage, which only brought problems later down the line and it didn't make sense anyway, since Kiryu called his orphanage Morning Glory as it is a flower which turns to the sun the same way a sunflower does it, and is also the symbol for summer in Japan just like the sunflower is, in honor of Kazama's Sunflower Orphanage where he grew up in. Now I have no idea why the fuck they changed it to "Sunshine Orphanage", if you told me that they thought westerners were too dumb and didn't know what a morning glory is so they just put in sunshine because both sunflower and sunshine have "sun" in their name, I'd actually believe you. This becomes a REALLY big problem in 0 where Majima manages the Sunshine Cabaret Club. This could lead you to the false conclusion that Kiryu and Majima have something in common to each other as they had something called "Sunshine" which they manage and which gave them good memories, when if you look at the original this is absolutely not the case.

Also, they had to change a part where Mitsuo gets called a niglet because westerners are too cucky to even handle a character being racist to a BASED black man.

Seeing how the intent seems to be to make the entire mainline series available on PS4 and PC, do you think there might be a chance Kiwami 1 and 2 will come bundled with the originals? I doubt it would be too hard to do, and that's always free PR.

>>15013940

Link to the undub? I was under the impression it never got finished.

>>15057498

I think I would've prefered less Majima and more Nishiki to be honest. Maybe a few playable Nishiki moments to get to those cutscenes that you see. They especially could've toned down how much you needed to fight specific Majima types because fuck trying to find dancer/cop Majima so many times.

As for story, I mean things don't line up well. Like you're going to do story bits but then Majima gives you this run around to get you to the docks for a fight to give him an excuse as to why he's wearing the bandages for his next fight. It's so weird.

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>>15063616

Can't really help you too much, there is a translation effort by the same guy who hosts the Kenzan and Ishin games, only this time it's gonna be a patched version of the game rather than just translations on a website. God knows how long we're gonna wait for them tho.

The only things I know for sure is that the reason all boss fights are in the underground coliseum is because the main character kills some Tojo guy and the patriarch of that family forces you to pay off your debt by fighting in the arena.

>>15063579

Playable Nishiki, even token, could have gone a long way, I agree. But the thing with Nishiki is, he can have all the motivation he fucking wants, Reina's death means he's full irredeemable asshole no matter what else.

Where can I find a torrent for Yakuza 0? I haven't played any installments yet but a video I watched detailing the series' gameplay got me interested.

>>15090781

Yuakza 0 doesn't come out on PC until August 1st.

>>15091201

Ah, alright. Have any other of the games been released on PC yet? I'm not sure if my PC can handle PS2 or PS3 emulator.

>>15091537

Yakuza 0 will be the first game in the series to be on PC then Yakuza kiwami (a remake of the orginal) will be the next to be ported, aside from that you could emulate the original versions of 1 and 2, Yakuza 1 on PS2 is the only game in the series to get a English dub, so it's worth playing just for that since it's pretty funny to hear at times,

I don't know how your PC is, but if you think you can run 0 I don't see why you wouldn't be able to emulate PS2 games

>>15091567

Thanks for the information.

>I don't know how your PC is, but if you think you can run 0 I don't see why you wouldn't be able to emulate PS2 games

It's been a long time since I last attempted to emulate a PS2 game but I remember reading that the emulator required high specs. I also remembered that I tried playing Shadow of the Colossus at the time and it was constantly stuttering. But I'll try it out anyway.

>Yakuza kiwami (a remake of the orginal)

Should I just play the remake in that case or is the original worth playing as well?

>>15091730

I would playing both is worth it, so you can appreciate how the series started and how it evolved.

It's we still don't know the release date of Kiwami for PC anyway so you may as well play the original for now.

There is also a Kiwami 2 and in that case i recommend playing the orginal version of Yakuza 2 since Kiwami 2 while adding it's own things also had to sacrifice others, in the orginal version of Yakuza 2 there were 2 main city areas and a 3rd smaller area for you to explore, that 3rd area was cut from Kiwami 2 so the only way to see it is in the original game.

>>15091766

>a 3rd smaller area for you to explore, that 3rd area was cut from Kiwami 2 so the only way to see it is in the original game.

Really? Did they transfer that silly telephone questline to sotenbori or did they do something entirely different since sotenbori doesn't have a tower?

>>15102158

I'm not sure, I just know that the area was cut completely.

>>15102158

We'll have to wait and see. But I've read that some of the sidestories in Shinseicho will appear in Sotenbori, while some are cut.

>>15063616

Don't these games supposedly suck balls?

>>15108719

Says fucking who? Some nigger who never played the game and only based it off of the main character who looks like a wigger? Or would it be jigger? Anyway, right out the bat the game is made by Syn Sophia, who once upon a time were known as AKI, the guys who made all those classic wrestling games like WCW/NWO Revenge, WWF No Mercy and Virtual Pro Wrestling, the Def Jam games and Kinnukiman Muscle games. The gameplay is tight, you can unlock and use multiple styles and apparently there's over 20 unlockable styles. Apparently there's over 100 substories, 7 hostesses and 6 minigames, much more than I expected given the limitations of the PSP. I played it for a short while and gave up just because I don't know Japanese so I had no idea what was going on and I enjoyed it, the only real gripe I have with the game is that boss fights can go on for way too long, both of them I did took me around 5 minutes to beat.

You faggots think you're being all purist and elitist when you tell people not to start from the Kiwami games, but all you achieve is those people dropping out when the PS2 limitations crap in their mouths.

This is no opinion: there is a known, certified reason why niche groups are unable to spread further than their little pond. You suffered too much on irrelevant shit, to let it go and not ask others to do the same. So now you can't give out unbiased directions.

>>15109202

>You faggots think you're being all purist and elitist when you tell people not to start from the Kiwami games

No, I just think it's fairly wasteful to start with games whose additional content is 90% Y0 references. 0>K1 I'm fine with, but you're going to miss 50% of Kiwami's appeal if you start with it.

>>15109202

>You faggots think you're being all purist and elitist when you tell people not to start from the Kiwami games

That's not it. You gain a much better appreciation for all the improvements made to the series' formula over time by playing through it in chronological order of release. This is without going into the problems both Kiwami games have which the originals lack, such as Kiwami 1's recreation of the escape from Tojo HQ feeling extremely underwhelming and redundant after 0's much more grandiose recreation of that scene.

Even if you think it's purely done out of elitism, starting with Kiwami is still stupid, since it's as much a sequel to 0 as it is a remake of the first game and most of the meat of the game is references to 0.

>>15109202

Cry more you fucking faggot and take your subhuman ass back to reddit. You always play games in release order. If you don't have a PS double and/or triple, whatever, you don't have to buy and play them, in that case just play 0 and then Kiwami when it comes out on PC. If you have a PS quadruple, play 6 after Kiwami and then Kiwami 2 when it comes out, then check out those rereleases when they come out. The anons before me already said it, but playing through Kiwami it's clear that it's a continuation of 0 and not the game you should start with, this is evident both in the mechanics pf the game and the side content. Take your word salad somewhere else, pseud.

>someone bumps the thread

>it's for a fucking zoe quinn spam

I admit I've been in a bit of a lull playing Yakuza my idort ass got back to splatoon 2 but fuck that shit.

YAKUZA KIWAMI 2 DEMO IS NOW OUT ON PSN

TRY IT'S WHILE IT'S STILL HOT, BOYS.

So… any tips for Mahjon and the batting center in Yakuza 6? one makes no sense and the other is kinda hard to find the hitting time even if you have a cheat sheet to where the ball is going.

I just got into autistic mode and I need to finish all of that in the FIRST chapter.