81dcb9 No.14766255
I feel like getting into RTS games. Someone recommend me some that are good to start off with.
b2b931 No.14766315
Red Alert 2, Age of Mythology, Warcraft 3. Three of the best RTS campaigns.
525b9d No.14766331
>>14766315
To add to this age of empires 1, and 2 are also good recommendations. These are the games that started me on RTS.
ba2b59 No.14766334
Age of Empires 2
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2
Dawn of War
Starcraft (NOT Starcraft 2)
You've got most of the popular kinds of RTS on that short list, OP. There are many other kinds, but if you're just starting these should suffice.
This anon >>14766315 has good taste as well.
87cd68 No.14766335
e7b634 No.14766345
>>14766255
C&C 3 is the best mix of modern and quality. Most of the classics haven't actually aged very well.
8cb0e0 No.14766350
Starcraft 1 and Warcraft 2
8cb0e0 No.14766358
>>14766335
only Wings of Liberty if you actually do this, the others are hot garbage but WoL was very fun despite the story being poorly written
8f295d No.14766370
Despite all the shit its given, SC2 has a really good campaign for someone new to RTS. A lot of older RTS tend to have campaigns where if you don't manage your resources and build up properly you end up in a situation where you progress very slowly, usually going a unit at a time. As a general rule to avoid this in RTS games, make sure you are getting a lot of resources and have multiple buildings of the same kind that produce units.
Here's a list of campaigns I can recommend. Keep in mind, a lot of expansions back in the day added a second campaign, so don't miss the first one.
>Warcraft 3, Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne
>Warhammer 40k, Dawn of War and Winter Assault
>Starcraft 1 and Brood War
>Command and Conquer (basically any of them)
>Impossible Creatures
>Battle Realms
And then here's a mixed bag of games with non-linear campaigns (world conquering), lackluster campaigns but very good multiplayer etc but generally all feature great gameplay
>Rise of Nations
>Warhammer 40k Dark Crusade (expansion to Dawn of War but does not require the base game)
>Supreme Commander (check out Forged Alliance Forever for multiplayer)
>Star Wars Empire At War and expansion Forces of Corruption
>Warlords Battlecry 2 or 3
>Z
>>14766358
Legacy of the Void was fine except for the start and ending and any time Kerrigan showed up. Uniting all the different-but-similar Protoss factions was fun.
8cb0e0 No.14766928
>>14766370
>Legacy of the Void was fine at any point
No. It was never fun. I fucking hated it. The mission objectives were always "kill or control x of y" and it felt like dogshit. The whole thing felt pointless from start to finish and there was almost no memorable missions or anything of value whatsoever, aside from the one Alarak mission. The rest are just hot garbage.
Wings of liberty by comparison felt dynamic and great in terms of mission objectives and just general fun. I remember every single wings mission. I can't say the same for Legacy whatsoever, except for the shit that I was personally offended by.
The last fucking mission of the epilogue is the literal opposite of epic and it basically defines the game as a whole. You fucking destroy floating crystals on a large map while enemies and buildings with large health pools occasionally spawn to annoy you.
That is without a doubt the gayest fucking shit, and the worst fucking ending to a nearly 20 year long series I have ever seen, and everything I just said precludes the downright awful, insulting and garbage-tier writing present throughout the whole thing. The best parts of the actual gameplay were spear of adun abilities, and unit customization (which still felt "okay" at best, there were a few really cool things but it gave a little too much freedom (as in, pretty much no constraints made it child's play to literally steamroll through these fucking boring missions; in Wings you had the credits which was a very real limitation on your customization that didn't feel lame at all and still allowed you to tackle things creatively or not.
It just felt like garbage to play overall and I hated it.
6749b9 No.14767212
Command and Conquer: Red Alert 1 and 2 and Tiberian Sun
Age of Empires 1 and 2 and Mythology
Warcraft 2 and 3
Starcraft 1 and Wings of Liberty
Warhammer 40K Dawn of War
Total Annihilation
Supreme Commander
Star Wars Empire at War
Homeworld (pirate them, do NOT give money to Goybox)
Company of Heroes
Grey Goo
1b6bf5 No.14767274
Command & Conquer Generals
Great place to start and fun for beginners. You'll learn the basics
7f22fb No.14767345
>>14766255
Skip AoE I and go straight for AoE II. Get the original with the expansion, apply the userpatch and enjoy. Finish the tutorial campaign and Joan's and get to Barbarossa's as fast as possible. It's one of the best campaigns I've played in any RTS. I should note that there isn't much story or narrative in these but their gameplay is superb.
Alternatively, you could get the HD version. On top of gameplay changes and updates it comes with 3 new expansions (which have better campaigns. The detail and atmosphere is amazing).
You can get AoE III if you like narrative driven campaigns, it's about the only thing it got right.
bc5463 No.14767356
>>14766255
Once you learn the basics I highly suggest Warzone 2100 it's kinda neato for building your own troops using different parts, if you want a balls to the walls challenge the campaign is fucking hard where the AI throws some serious shit your way. But you get to keep your base between missions untill you complete an act.
The game went freeware a long time ago and a fan project has kept it going so it's really easy to get.
1b6bf5 No.14767366
>>14767345
>Fire Emblem Awakaening
This is definitely not v's list. If anything some random reddit retard just put all his favorite games on here
3bd1b4 No.14767454
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>>14766255
Hostile Waters.
Do you want an RTS with a well written story by Warren Ellis, with neat British VA? Do you want a game with competent AI units that can hold their own in a fight (though they fuck up with the pathfinding occasionally)? Do you want to customize all your vehicles with weapons, armor, shields, cloaking and be able to jump into any of the vehicles at any time and control them in third person?
If the answer is yes to all these questions then Hostile Waters is the game for you. Also, watch the kickass intro. The game simply oozes awesome, on top of being subtly subversive.
15ca22 No.14767497
>>14767366
here's the most recent chart; I don't know when that one was created but it looks like an extremely early iteration
29c4db No.14767505
>>14766255
SupCom FA is a best.
1b6bf5 No.14767549
>>14767497
Yeah that one makes a lot more sense overall
3bd1b4 No.14767558
>>14767497
Why is 7.62 listed among turn based games?
e00fd6 No.14767563
>>14766255
If you're looking for a starting point, either go with RA2 or C&C Generals.
Those two games have a great mix of base building, economy management, faction differences and micro/macro army command for getting rid of that RTS virginity.
Generals has worker management, which is in more of the genre than the classic C&C conyard style.
From there, it depends on what you liked from Generals and RA2.
If you want more units with cool abilities, pick up a Warcraft game or Starcraft (not 2, 2 is shit)
If you don't really care about flashy abilities and just want to shit tanks down your opponent's throat, go with either TA or Supcom.
If you don't much care for faction differences, or really really like worker management, dip into the Age of Empires series.
14d360 No.14767611
>>14767497
What a goddamn joke the visual novel section is, really give me doubt.
99e800 No.14767722
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RTS is dead unless someone funds to develop stargate/xcom rts
7fafbf No.14767744
>>14767497
>jrpg
>mario paper
Rythm & music
>not putting DDR or rather stepmania
99e800 No.14767763
>>14767722
and by xcom i mean it has the gameplay elements of equipping and training a team and building and defending bases and researching aliens and tech and eventually defeating all alien rulers.
982c01 No.14768729
>>14767763
>That filename
You sicken me.
4f01ea No.14770586
>>14766345
This. Don't forget Kane's Wrath
02dc5b No.14770609
02dc5b No.14770612
>>14766345
This is bait.
TS and RA2 have aged extremely well.
119933 No.14770646
>>14767497
>19/01/2018
Did the fag maintaining it die? I haven't seen him posting in any of the more recent charts threads.
50273b No.14770686
>>14766255
Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds
simon says, bitch
e7b634 No.14770693
>>14770612
TS isn't really C&C because of the weird shift in tone and RA2 has huge balance issues even if you don't use OpenRA. The non-nostalgia answer is 3, maybe Generals if that's your thing.
ba2b59 No.14770722
>>14770693
>TS isn't really C&C because of the weird shift in tone
Okay, I thought you had a legitimate opinion but now I KNOW this is bait.
f9d5dd No.14770726
Age of Empires II, it's a near perfect RTS and it was pretty easy to learn.
I'm not a nostalgiafag either, I first played it in 2015
ba2b59 No.14770744
>>14770726
Can confirm. The only RTS that even comes close to it in my opinion is Supreme Commander. To me they are the twin champions of the genre, for very different reasons of course.
2b8dbc No.14770846
e7b634 No.14770905
>>14770722
It's entirely unlike any other game in the series.
e58edb No.14770925
>>14766255
Start by playing Command & Conquer Tiberian Dawn, then Tiberian Sun, then Tiberium Wars and Kane's Wrath.
C&C is the very core of RTS, as it pretty much wrote the book on what RTS is as a genre. If you like the series, try out the spinoffs, such as Red Alert and Generals.
c2bb55 No.14771143
>>14767558
because it's a turn-based squad tactics game and is pretty damn fun. hard life is better but still
69e6d8 No.14771185
>>14771143
>turn based
But it's real time?
c2bb55 No.14771191
>>14771185
can't you pause it to issue commands, swap inventory etc? it's been a year or two since i played but i really do remember action points/turns etc being a mechanic
69e6d8 No.14771207
>>14771191
You can pause but again that's just pausing a real time game like any other. You may be thinking about your stamina bar?
2f20fd No.14771208
2006-2007 was the last year for RTS.
>Company of Heroes
>World in Conflict
>Supreme Commander
You can't go wrong with these games and their expansions, all have good campaigns, will run fine on modern systems, and won't feel at all "dated."
Honorable mention for Sins of a Solar Empire which came out in the same immediate pre-recession timeframe although sadly Sins lacked a good campaign.
119933 No.14773917
>>14771185
It plays more like turn based with the default config of pausing when shit happens.
d403ae No.14773955
>>14767497
That roguelike section
>DoomRL but no Angband
de0473 No.14774016
Am I the only one here who loved to play Age of Empires 3 ?
I feel like that game did not got the love which it deserved.
defcd2 No.14774030
>>14774016
No, I actually liked it for some reason, I don't know why
f1c114 No.14774037
>>14770646
>>14773955
>>14767744
edit it yourselves ya dorks; its not that hard
my problem with it is that fucking autistic disclaimer of saying not to add more games when some sections barely have any to begin with, along with a few games that are pretty shit
>>14770646
>Did the fag maintaining it die? I haven't seen him posting in any of the more recent charts threads.
I only saw that chart recently; the last version I saw before it which I remember as being better for some reason was from 2016
d4acab No.14774112
>>14766255
Zero-K. It's based on Total Annihilation and has some similarities with Supcom. It's also free and on Linux.
e7b634 No.14774703
>>14774037
>edit the .jpg instead of the original
This is not a good idea if it can at all be avoided.
8fb001 No.14774762
>>14771208
>tfw stuck in purgatory with three of my favorites
halp
bbf136 No.14775112
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Ancestors Legacy is coming out on 22.05, check it out.
a216c9 No.14781622
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c346c2 No.14790418
>>14766334
>Dawn of War
How's the second game?
Also is the first game's campaign supposed to be really easy? I'm on the 6th or so mission and I'm finding it way too easy to just blob a bunch of fully upgraded space marine squads into anything.
95f241 No.14790428
>>14766255
Age of Empires and Age of Mythology are the best RTS games ever made.
bb4e60 No.14790439
>>14775112
That is nice.
Hopefully it will not run like ass and will not use steam or galaxy.
Who am I kidding.
It will.
c982fb No.14790454
>>14790418
Its more of an action RPG but still a good game.
Also, the game will get harder, specially in the expansions, the eldar HQ assault in dark crusade was a pain in the ass.
fc8d70 No.14791326
Total Anniliation: Kingdoms was pretty decent as a fantasy alternative to TA.
>>14773917
By that logic then UFO: Aftermath/shock/light is turn based.
cbcd37 No.14796371
>>14767497
Fuck yeah I like this list.
>Submarine Titans
Never heard of it but sound so intriguing.
cbcd37 No.14796465
>>14767497
>Antichamber
>Panzer DragoonSaga
>Commandos 2
>Tenchu Stealth Assassins
>TimeSplitters: Future Perfect
>Aliens vs Predator 2
>Okami
>Shadow of the Collosus
>Prince of Persia: the Sands of Time
>Prototype
Damn /v/ you did so fucking GOOD! I'm amazed at how refined this list has become since I last saw it. I'm proud of you, guys.
Is Return to the Castle Wolfenstein good enough for the list? Not judging, sincere question. It's not that memorable to me.
Not to be a contrarian, but I'm not sure HL2 stands the test of time for the list. I do recommend playing it but It's nowhere near an artistically transcendent experience, if you'll pardon the pretense.
Why the fuck is Crysis there lmao
Is Ultimate Spiderman the best of them all? I just remember the cartoony graphics, they've all melded into a single concept in my memories.
So Chinatown Wars is better than SA? Maybe I should look into playing it.
I really like that you put the usual cynicism behind and just focused on the merit of the games. Must have been difficult not to deny Psychonauts and some Sonic games their place.
aa8a29 No.14805391
>>14796465
Chartfag was good at taking feedback without just bending to whatever random request someone made. Often /v/ charts just have completely out of place games because one autist demanded it without an argument.
>Is Return to the Castle Wolfenstein good enough for the list? Not judging, sincere question. It's not that memorable to me.
Honestly one I have to replay personally to see if it stands up.
>Why the fuck is Crysis there lmao
It's actually a good game despite being a benchmark for most people.
2bdfee No.14806344
>>14796465
>Is Return to the Castle Wolfenstein good enough for the list? Not judging, sincere question. It's not that memorable to me.
RtCW is an okay game, but it's mediocre. I'd only play through it once and be done with it.